Have you finally ungraded to Windows 10? It's literally

Triple Kill!

>>384079510
What does it do

>>384080596
it games the system

>>384080596
Makes it even better than Windows 7 for gaming.

>>384080596
You win The Game.

>>384080768
how so

>>384080596
If I remember correctly it's supposed to free up resources by closing or putting on standby non-critical programs and services while you're playing a game.

Wasn't this already tested and found out it actually makes games run worse?

>>384080853
>The Game
Shit I lost, gotta start again

broke my freesync and lowered my frames significantly, turning it off went back to normal though.

>>384080596
It Dougs games

>>384080596
literally nothing and the only way to use it is with the xbox dvr bullshit

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>>384080596
It alerts the botnet of which games you play and their genres so that you can receive relevant game ads in the Metro UI.

Read the privacy settings anon.

>>384080882
By eating more RAM unnecessarily to make you think you're playing the game using "all of your resources".

I don't understand all the hate towards Windows 10, It's nowhere near as good as XP but It's still ok

>>384081074
>https://techraptor.net/content/windows-10-game-mode-can-make-games-perform-worse
>https://pastebin.com/iTMQqEmt

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>tfw actually searched for it in configs

>>384081424
How does it feel being such a hack Bill Gates? You literally never actually made your own OS, you bought it from others or paid others to make it for you.

>>384082495
>You literally never actually made your own OS, you bought it from others or paid others to make it for you.
That's called business. You don't need to be able to make everything yourself if you can pay people who know what they're doing.

>>384080596
it makes games run worse

>>384081424
data collection
win 7 and win 8 exist and work perfectly fine
MS pushing win 10 on everyone

>>384080596

It forces all games to run in performance hogging borderless window mode.

Oh wait, that's just W10 in general.

>>384083093

Don't forget forced updates that routinely break shit.

>>384083032
Correct answer. This has been tested and it will, not all of the time but a lot of and maybe most of the time, make games run worse.

Bravo, Bill. Have fun Microcucks

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>>384079510
Name an open world as comfy as horizon 3, you just can't

>>384079510
>Botnet

Nope!

>>384080596
it turns on voice recording and key logging so you can be safe from terrorists communicating through puffin party

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Install Gentoo

ISO Files:
http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20170713/install-amd64-minimal-20170713.iso

Installation Guide:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64

How to install steam:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Steam

Bash guide for begineers:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64

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>tfw you upgraded to Windows 10 And you found out how absolutely horrible it is

>>384083709
Gentoo is cool, but it doesn't work with my fucking monitor

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>>384083625
Forza Horizon 2

>>384083985
eh

>>384083709
tpbp

>>384083709

When I try to apt-get directx Gentoo bails out. Since this is /v/, care to offer any suggestions as to how to game on Gentoo. In 21c?

>>384083709
>Need a guide for installing steam
No thanks

>>384080596
For Windows Store games it puts all the menial windows processes on idle and dedicates more processing threads for the game itself.
For normal games, it just dedicates more processing thread to the game process and suspends all metro apps like weather and news apps.

>>384084371
>apt-get on gentoo
>directx
Get out, CIA Nigger

>>384083196
I'd care about all the cucks and tards that are using Windows 10 for gaming, but then again they're the retards for using Windows 10 in the first place for gaming.

>>384084639
I've never had system slowdown with windows 10, I had it fairly frequently on windows 7 if I didn't restart for a while. Also dx12 requires win10, no?

>botnet meme
reminder that your hardware even collects data, including your CPU and your monitor. not saying it makes it right but its silly to complain about one botnet when you already have 20 others you're apart of

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>>384080596
Activates Turbo Mode

>>384084859
Most people(myself included) can leave win7 running for multiple months if they don't need to shut down or restart it for any other particular reasons, with no system slowdowns. For microsoft, it's a pretty robust OS.

Don't know why you'd be different, unless you're mistaking shit webbrowser code for your entire PC.

>>384079510
Why would I use Windows 10 game mode when there are hundreds of other softwares out there that do the same thing? In fact, didnt' one of the GPU manufacturers put out a "game mode" years ago?

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>>384079510
Windows 7 for life!!!

>>384083420
Bill Gates doesn't even do anything at Microsoft anymore

>would mostly be on Linux if not for some games
Support Linux/SteamOS as much as possible. It's the only way we're going to free ourselves from Microsoft's jewish bullshit

>>384085565
>SteamOS
Go away gabe.

>>384084859
>Also dx12 requires win10, no?
Yeah, just look at all those amazing games that require DX12.
Oh, wait...

>>384085686
Or buy Linux versions of GOG games, I guess

>>384085850
Well isn't it just a matter of time until they will?

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>>384079510
>Using Windows 10

>>384085905
SteamOS has been such a shitshow. Is Valve even properly supporting it any longer?

>>384084859
DX12 is a meme Pajeet.

>>384079510
>finally "upgrade"
>laptops wifi disconnects at random
>literally tried everything to fix it
>can't be fixed

FUCK

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>>384081204
>the only way to use it is with the xbox dvr bullshit

You don't need it activated. You just need the Game bar to activate the game mode, but once activated for that game you can disable the game bar.

Just like Steam overlay, the game bar/Game DVR is an overlay and should be disabled whenever possible because overlays are famous for causing conflicts with the Direct3D api.

>>384085960
Hopefully not. Vulkan is everything good about D3D12 with none of the stupid bullshit like only working on a single version of a single OS.
Plus it updates at the pace that video card hardware advances, instead of Microsoft's console release schedule.

Plus there's already more games and emulators using Vulkan than D3D12. Dophin in fact dropped D3D12 in favor of Vulkan because it was just the better option.

awkward smartphone bullshit, what a nightmare

>>384083985

She looks like Don fucking Cheadle.

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>>384079510
>Windows 10
>upgrade

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>>384081041

>stopping Windows programs and services
>programs which barely have any CPU footprint
>freeing up memory which is rarely an issue on modern machines anyway

So in other words, it does nothing.
It's just an electronic placebo then.

>>384086143
They just released a pretty major update not too long ago that switched from using the proprietary AMD driver to the open source one.
This is pretty important because the official AMD driver sucks and the open drivers are faster now in part thanks to Valve having hired a bunch of people to work on it.

Nobody will confirm it, but Valve is apparently working on a second generation of the Steam Machines built around a specific spec, possibly a specific board. Their goal is that SteamOS will be like RetroPie for modern games.

>>384086850
>Second generation of steam machines
That can only end in misery. Especially after that latest article just came out shining some light on valve's relationship with third party producers for steam machines.

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>>384079510
But I've got this

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>>384081424
>but It's still ok
Right, thats the problem. You can't release a new OS thats 'just ok' and change all the UI for no reason and force updates.
WDDM 2.0 and directx 12 are facing a real threat from vulkan as well. There is also a wealth of older titles that require lengthy work around or japanese games straight up breaking.
When you make an upgrade, its suppose to be much better, not just 'ok'. If the nicest thing people have to say about it is 'i havent had any particular problems' its a fucking giant klaxon blaring.

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>>384086827
It does not free up any memory though. It just gives the game process more threads, both CPU and GPU threads.

>"Depending on your machine configuration, what software you have running on the machines, what system services you have running, you could have threads running across all your cores making the machine relatively hot," Gammill said. "And then when you have a game running on top of that, depending on how the game is architected, sometimes those threads can contend from a resource perspective with what's going on in the system. So essentially what we're doing with Game Mode is allocating a number of threads that will be for the game only, and the rest of the threads for the system only."

>Gammill said that in working on thread contingencies, they've been able to make performance more consistent. Games don't have to contend with other services running on the same threads, so when the game suddenly needs more CPU power—perhaps due to a spike in AI-driven enemies on screen—it has plenty of headroom.

>At launch, Game Mode will be easy to turn on and off through the Game Bar (Windows key + G, if you have it enabled through the Xbox app). Microsoft is also working on a whitelist of games that will benefit from Game Mode, which it's filling out by testing on a variety of systems. Eventually, Game Mode will be able to switch on automatically when it detects one of those games, but the whitelist will start out empty in the upcoming Windows Insider build.

>Microsoft stressed several times that this is just the beginning for Game Mode, and that performance should improve as the team continues to iterate on it. "This is not one of those features where we ship it, we high five, and move on," Gammill said. "This is one of those features where this is really phase one, and we want it to get better after we ship the Creators update. Not only waiting for the next big Windows release, but as the Creators update continues to mature in the marketplace as well.

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>>384079510
I updated long ago.

>>384080596
it let's you play games.

>>384087583
such a beatiful interface

>>384087471
Threads are only 8 bytes a piece.
Question is, why someone's not disabling unnecessary services and having thousands and thousands of threads in memory to the point the OS runs slower.

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>>384080853
fuck you

>>384086991
Basically think about that first generation as the early dev consoles that you usually never see. Remember when Microsoft was buying up old PPC Mac Pros for Xbox360 dev systems?

Expect a single system from Valve themselves, or something along the lines of the single board computers where they have a specific main board in mind.
SteamOS may still technically support other hardware, but they'd be doing all their development and testing for the open source drivers on their hardware.

>Windows 10 doesn't let you backup the installs of games or allow you to copy them to your other devices.

>You MUST re-download them every time on every device

>Update corrupts Windows Store? Re-download everything

>Update corrupts your User Account? Re-download everything

>Devs upload the wrong update to the Windows Store? Re-download everything.

>Most of them are 50GB-100GB

Windows 10 is literally the worst experience i'v ever had with an OS and the absolute worst OS you could possibly use for gaming.

Something as simple as having a wireless logitech dongle plugged in when Windows 10 decides to do one of it's forced updates whilst your sleeping is enough to completely fuck your User Account and force you to "reset" windows forcing you to re-download EVERYTHING.

Oh and have fun when that re-installation results in their cloud servers wiping your saved games.

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>>384079510
>ungraded
The word is "downgraded"

>>384080596
It stops spying you for a while until you end gaming.

>>384088318
My apologetic state has been corrupted by your choice to install it in the first place.
Please re download everything.

>>384088620

I didn't choose to install in the first place, it's literally the only Windows OS my CPU supports.

I ended up building an entirely new machine just to go back to Win 7.

The privacy concerns were the greatest missed opportunity for lulz in my opinion.
If they were collecting our data for the NSA and advertising bots, we could have organized something for them to 'collect' i think. In fact they would have hit the motherload of keyword triggers such their SNR should have made the entire system useless.

Have had it for a few years now. Still best Os I have used for what I use it for.

It's simple, it's clean. And it functions well. outside of all the horseshit compatibilty issues I had to work around. But now that I've fixed them, I don't care.

>>384079510
No, I don't install malware on my machines

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rate my marcus

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>all these Windows 10 haters

You know you can't hold out forever. Current platforms (Ryzen/Kaby Lake) already require Windows 10. Only a matter of time before Microsoft starts leaning on GPU manufacturers to gear their drivers for Windows 10 only. You already need Windows 10 for DirectX 12.

You can resist but not for much longer.
You think your precious GabeN will save you? Not so long as Steam keeps working. SteamOS was just a shot across the bow so Microsoft doesn't require games to be purchased through Windows Store. Tick tock, anon, tick tock.

>>384088951
So you made the choice with that CPU. Same difference.

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>>384088951
>it's literally the only Windows OS my CPU supports

>>384089353
>(Ryzen/Kaby Lake)
Patches exist for those CPU. Vulkan is better. Next

>>384079510
Werent there benchmarks where it actually slowed down games?

>>384089353
Thanks. But it offers nothing new, at all. I will not install malware on my machine and then use it as my main operating system.
Also this >>384089583

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>>384089353
>You already need Windows 10 for DirectX 12
Good thing Vulkan exists!

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>>384089238

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>>384089353
>not using linux and putting wangblows in a VM cuckshed where it belongs
its like you want to have aids

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>>384089353
>https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc

>>384080596
GAME

>>384089353
Gaben knows 10 S is real. Its too much money for Microsoft to leave it on the table allowing third party stores to continue to exist by default.

He's been keeping the Linux work they've been doing quiet, the media made too big a deal of it too early the last time. This time they're keeping it close to their chests until its ready and the time is right.

My bet is that Valve will unveil their new systems right around the same time that Windows 7 is officially EOL, holiday 2020.

>>384079510
How do I disable the botnet part of win10?

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>>384089835
>There's literally a switch preventing that
>Micro$shit Pajeets are this desperate to force their street shit on everyone else

>>384090217
You can go disable the processes or just use O&O Shutup10.

>>384090217
>needing third party software to make your OS do what you want it to do
this is part of the reason why W10 is shit.

>>384090685
>Shutup10
Gracias

>>384080596
Applies some optimizations for a handful of games that M$ found some of their botnet was fucking with performance wise. For Honor is a prime example, went from 70ish FPS @ 4k ultra to 90ish with 1080 Ti SLI and game mode. Most games it does absolute fuck all for that I've seen.

>>384088032
>Microsoft was buying up old PPC mac Pros for 360 dev systems
I actually had no idea of this, if it's true.

>>384090935
It usually helps Ubisoft games because they're multithreaded but have some retarded CPU usage, so game mode helps increase the CPU usage. Forza Horizon 3 pre-Hot wheels patch for example used to stress the CPU 0 so hard that Game Mode would make things even worse.

It unironically makes you ironic games run slower.

>>384090935
Have you tried any other "game mode" applications to confirm this?

So what's this founders update that I've been putting off for a month?

>>384091329
As far as I understand, Paint 3D and not much more.

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>>384079510
>using "gaming mode"
>not removing all those useless services and bloatware in the first place for max performance 24/7

>>384090217
LOL

>>384090217
dban

>>384080596
It gives you about the performance that previous version of Windows 10 had. The latest patch lowers performance a lot and the only way to get it back is to enable game mode. Although it's still slightly worse.

>>384091443
So I can safely continue to ignore it then? Don't want to bother with art shit that I don't even need

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>tfw updated to Win10
>just kinda dealt with it
Like yeah it has flaws but it's really not that bad.
If something THAT bad happens, I'll just format and install Win7. So far I'm fine with how Win10 is, especially since I have Phantom Dust and, if Phil Spencer isn't a dirty liar, OG Xbox emulation

>>384091503
This.
Always the first thing I do.
Before, like 10% CPU usage is normal, with like 6 gigs of ram being used. After unintalling and disabling all the stupid shit I don't want or use, 0% CPU usage is frequent with only a 1 - 2 gigs of memory being used.

>>384092047
>12GB of memory being used
Well, then.

>>384091964
It's not bad, but I prefer using 7. I use 10 as my main OS now though because I bought an amp that only works properly on Windows 10, and because I play Xbox games on it.

It's functional and has a few improvements but also a lot of downgrades from Windows 7. I don't care much about the botnet part because there's really no escaping it unless you go into the jungle without internet for the rest of your life. So long as you're using technology, you're on the radar.

>>384091964
You don't even need Windows 10 to emulate XBox, and knowing how they use Pajeets as programmers, their version's going to suck shit anyway.
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Xbox_emulators

>>384092294

>I don't care much about the botnet part because there's really no escaping it unless you go into the jungle without internet for the rest of your life. So long as you're using technology, you're on the radar.

>People actually believe this.

>People justify it.

Wow.

>>384092459
>justify
I said I don't care because I know this. Do you really think you're not being monitored when on the internet, and especially on this site?

>>384092453
Is OG Xbox emulation really going to be making any progress? I haven't seen shit about it even despite RPCS3 and CEMU making strides

>>384092459
Not wrong either. Phone through any of the telecoms giant? Tracking you, your location, and your data. GPS in the phone, so on so forth.
ISP's have your (Yes hidden) physical IP address for connection purposes.

This Website? Probably got your IP in some form or another.

>>384092648

>Do you really think you're not being monitored when on the internet, and especially on this site?

Yes, because unlike you i'm not a fucking retard.

What if I'm still on Windows 7 and refuse to ever change to 10?

>>384092648
>being monitored on the internet, where you choose to visit, is the same as having your personal files and things you don't intend to put on the internet monitored scanned and stored.
Please tell me you can see the difference.

>>384092746

>Not wrong either. Phone through any of the telecoms giant? Tracking you, your location, and your data. GPS in the phone, so on so forth.

A phone is utterly worthless these days and completely irrelevant in an age where literally every handheld device can access wifi and mobile internet, both of which can be secured and private.

>>384079510
It slightly improves performance on games made by microsoft exclusively at the cost of adding a few back doors for hackers and the fbi while installing a shit ton of spying software

>>384092820
We'll stop sending out security updates for 7 soon. You can only resist us for so long, goyim.

There's literally no reason not to use Windows 10 if you're using Windows already, and if you care about privacy and aren't using Linux you are actually retarded.

>>384079510
yup
got my entitlement
then i downgraded back to 7

gonna get a flash drive and dual boot 10

no prob

If something is given out for free, then you are the product. Windows 10 is the next step in data mining.

>>384086490
>1 fps gain in everything that isn't an MS game

kek

>>384093901
>relying on a windows system for security reasons.
I mean, if it makes you feel better I guess you can. But realistically W10 isn't more secure than windows 7

>>384093794
SHIT! PULL THE ETHERNET CABLE!!!

>>384094584
>shit is disabled
>MS still sends through data against a users explicit request
>"y-you can just disable the botnet!"
If I, as a user, wants my OS to NOT do something, it should not do that thing for as long as I want it to in the full capacity I expect it to.

>>384093053
The CIA can see, hear and read everything you do on your phone. Phones are even easier for telemetry.

>>384094752
I want Burger King to not put trans fat in my hamburgers. Guess what? They don't give a fuck

MS knows you like chix with dix, /v/. What do you think they will do with this information?

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>>384079510
>((((((us)))))

>>384095017
that's probably the worst counter-argument i've ever heard on this site. What does that have to do with me expecting my operating system to do what i tell it to do?
>>384095121
I do not trust them to keep my personal information safe from people stealing the data from them, for starters.

>>384079510
game mode is shit, with it enabled, every time i open forza horizon 3 it crashes on the title screen

without it, at least i can play for a few minutes or hours if i'm lucky before it crashes

>>384095121
advertise local tranny service houses to us.

>>384095294
Is the game bar disabled? You don't need game bar for game mode.

>>384095283
>that's probably the worst counter-argument i've ever heard on this site. What does that have to do with me expecting my operating system to do what i tell it to do?
It means corporations aren't going to do what you tell them even if you're the customer.

>>384095524
>trans-fats are a byproduct of eating fatty foods
>therefore data gathering is a byproduct of having an operating system
The clear solution is to not use the OS that does it, or not eat at the place that has trans-fats in their food right? If so, then you can see why not using W10 is completely justifiable.

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>PC
gaming

>>384095834
Trans fats are not a byproduct of fatty foods. They are an artificial fat created by corporations to hide saturated fat which is natural. They just happen to be worse for you.

>>384096020
Okay, so my analogy is even more fitting. The point still stands, no?

Not switching until I get a new CPU. Even then, I'm going to pirate LTSB which is the only one worth using but the one they don't sell to individual consumers.

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>>384089826

Weird. It's not on mine.

>>384079510
Now that I installed W10 Danganronpa 2 runs slower as fuck. Uninstalling.

>>384089353
>implying GabeN is any better than microsoft
I'd argue Gabe Newell and Valve/Steam are the worst thing to happen to PC gaming and I honestly hope Gabe dies from a heart attack ASAP.

>>384096649
>I'd argue
nice arguments

>>384094961

That's why I don't have a phone?

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>>384080596

>>384083709
Sounds cool, does it work with the latest games?
Well, even if it doesn't, I can still play Overwatch on it right?

>>384096253
>LTSB

Good choice. I have LTSB and it's fucking great. After formatting and installing it Overwatch went from 50-55 fps to steady 60 on my toaster.

>>384098662
>implying the latest games are worth playing.

More people would install win 10 if microsoft pushed the waifu stuff harder. Honestly it really makes no sense why western companies seem so resistant to push their products with waifus when it's been a proven method to get good sales.

I will get that freaking passthrough working with W7 someday...

>>384100352
I'm pretty sure /g/ has a guide for it, go ask in the /sqt/

>>384079510
>fucking retard the thread

>>384079510

Is it possible to prevent this piece of shit from auto updating/restarting or overlapping your fuckign screen with all kinds of random shit whenever it wants ?

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>>384080768
>can't disable dwm
>better
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAHAAHAH....

>>384099872

What the fuck are you babbling about

>>384101884
Yup. It's called upgrading to Windows 7 or 8.

>>384101884
no, their mantra for W10 is "you bend over and change your workflow for us when we say so. And you'll thank us for it"

>>384092459
He's right though.

If you're using Google, free email, pretty much any browser, any ISP, proprietary OS, etc. you've already been compromised. It's kind of silly to then turn around and refuse to use W10 on those grounds.

>>384092973
>thinking Microsoft would put themselves at risk of being blown the fuck out by collecting data they say they aren't

>>384102256

> being this gullible and naive

>>384102295
>being this paranoid and conceited

>>384101884
Yes.

>>384102347

> being this retarded

>>384092973
I really hope you don't unironically believe you have more privacy from Microsoft with using Windows 7 instead of 10.

>>384102256
>thinking they don't explicitly say they will collect everything on your machine.
>>384102216
Those grounds combined with how MS treats their users, how they force the OS upon users, etc is more than enough reason to not use it. In addition, there is a difference between stuff you put online willingly and stuff you want to keep personal/not sent through networks that MS mines anyways.

>>384092973

> This fucking retard actually believes this.

Thanks for the laugh.

>>384102481
>In addition, there is a difference between stuff you put online willingly
I hope you're using Linux and none of the big ISPs then.

>>384102431
I have more more on 7, not total, but more. I don't have my hard drive scanned, I don't have updates that force telemetry
>>384102507
that's not a counter argument.

>>384102580

Because you're literally too fucking retarded to understand it.

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>>384101884
This is the biggest issue, a ton of shit opens in full screen for literally no reason. What's wrong with control panel and skype and shit all starting in a window? You know, like how fucking WINDOWS should be? I like my screen space being super organised it's not in the screenshot but whatever and windows 10 just doesn't respect that, it just acts so out of sync with how I want things.

>>384087427
Also this, my friends who have windows 10 tell me it's good after you configure it to be as similar to windows 7 as possible and learn to deal with or ignore certain shit. What's the point in getting a new OS just to try and make it as similar to the one I was already using?

>>384102481
>thinking they don't explicitly say they will collect everything on your machine.
Show me where they say this please, and not the fucking OneDrive thing that literally involves you voluntarily uploading files to their servers.

>>384102680
It's good if you spend like, 30 minutes adjusting your settings and stuff to how you want it to be. That's not an unreasonable amount of time for switching to a new operating system.

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>>384082467
hahaha you fucking idiot faggot
me too, im really glad you posted first

>>384079510
can't find it

>>384079510
Microsoft, pls go

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Post your event viewers, windowsfags. Lets see those errors and warnings.

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I'm on a pretty old laptop so updating to Windows 10 would absolutely fuck it all up.

Are there any ways I can make W7 better? Any botnet / spying shit I should be aware of and disable somehow?

>>384103032
It's called Linux.

>>384101958
>overshit
>terrible game
>sells a billion copies because of waifus
>same goes for league of legends and dota

It's obvious what he's saying

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>>384102768
What's the point though? Win7 is working how I want it to, I don't see any reason to switch from it at all seen as there's no upside to Windows 10. I don't really hate the OS and I understand it's alright once you sort it out, but there's no point in changing. Maybe once it gets some actual useful features or shit stops being developed with compatibility for windows 7 then I'll switch.

What's the task manager like? I like being able to see everything pretty much all at once, I didn't like how zoomed in the windows 8.1 one was.

>>384103061
I don't want that gay shit, guy.

>>384102925
I get a lot of warnings, but only because I bent my OS over and rammed it up the ass with a utility that allows me to take ownership of files (despite being the admin and owner of the PC). There's some files that I took ownership that it doesn't want me to. To that I say fuck you Microsoft, I'll do whatever the fuck I want to my computer.

>>384103032
What is that picture even supposed to be? Just a guy having a really hard think while sitting in a room full of melons?

>>384103098
Then accept your OS is full of NSA backdoors.

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>>384103087
I mean if that's how you feel that's fine. As long as you feel like your decision is informed.

This 'processes' part is a little bit roomier but the Details screen in W10 task manager looks about the same as what you're looking for.

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>>384103257
Damn, nigga. You fucking got me dude holy shit.

>>384096295
>hurr durr mine's working fine

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>>384103087
Holy shit that chrome.

>>384102627
What am i misunderstanding? My comment was the following:
ISPs do NOT scan your hard drive, any data you put online is data you agree to put online.
As an example: If I have an entire library on my desktop of (poorly written) Erotic roleplay stories, my ISP/browser/websites I go to will not scan that library.
However, MS says in their terms of use, ELUA, license agreement that they will scan your hard drive and personal files. This is built into the OS. Even if you do not upload those files, they still can be sent to MS for 'analysis'.
So, barring 3rd party software to prevent such a thing from happening your stuff that you do not want put onto networks gets sent to MS servers. Following me so far? Now, explain where I'm wrong.

>>384103453
>However, MS says in their terms of use, ELUA, license agreement that they will scan your hard drive and personal files. This is built into the OS. Even if you do not upload those files, they still can be sent to MS for 'analysis'.
I'm still waiting for you to actually point out where they actually say any of this btw.

>>384103453
>Now, explain where I'm wrong.
Where's the proof MS actually scans your harddrive and uploads files to their servers?

I see a lot of posts saying it transfers *something* to servers, but no one has ever been able to prove what it actually is. Sounds tinfoil to me.

>>384103448
Holy shit that terrible theme.

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>>384103623
Too bad, werks for me.

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>>384103619
Their EULA. But you don't read it because it's tl;dr.
If anyone wants the user manuals to harden internet for Windows 7 see pic related.

>>384103876
>Their EULA.
Right, but what do they send back to their servers? People only say "packets", but have never verified if it's actually files from your hard drive.

>>384103619
Not him, but from what I'm aware of as far as telemetry goes: Scroll past the buzz words to 'How is Telemetry Data Handled by Microsoft'

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization

>>384103876
Hello? If they outright say they scan your hard drive they why do you keep dodging pointing out the specific point where they say it??

>>384103967
>Right, but what do they send back to their servers?
See post below.

>>384104157
Post below doesn't mention anything about files on your hard drive though? Your loli porn is safe from prying eyes.

>>384098662
>>384098807
>playing ShitShitShit
You're almost as bad as the Win10 shills in the thread

Bobby Kotick wants games to be more expensive with lower production values, stop giving him your money

>>384079510
Is this rolled out for everyone yet?

>>384107018
no

>>384107167
when will it be it f amo

>>384107378
Game mode is shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfoJO_eThTY&t=0m45s

>>384081041
>it's supposed to free up resources by closing or putting on standby non-critical programs and services while you're playing a game
soooooo it does exactly what any PC gamer does by pressing task manager and killing processes once playing a game

gg microsoft

>>384107963
Which you can bypass entirely by putting whatever game you want on high priority and not having crapware installed in the first place.

>>384107018
I postponed the install everytime I was asked about it, but Bill gently put pulled my hair from behind and put fucked me in the ass while whispering "this is the final time we allow a postpone" about a week ago. Installed it the day before yesterday.

I'm reading here that Microsoft actually scans your hdd's and upload your files to their server.

Now I don't really keep many files on my computers (Windows 7 and 10), and especially not anything sensitive. A lot of my shit is on an external with encryption, can MS theoretically do that botnet shit if I open my external on my windows 10 rig? I only have it plugged in when I'm using it. Or am I just paranoid?

>>384083709
Why should I install Gentoo over Ubuntu?

>>384108772
The Game Mode? Why did anon say no? I was asking for every W10 user, not every version.

>>384108893
"Creators Update". Game mode is included with it.

>>384108950
Can anyone with vanilla W10 get that update or do you gotta have a different version.

>>384109112
Those on Home and Pro get it automatically.

>>384109242
huh I just had an update yesterday and I don't have it

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>>384080853

>>384109360
All you fucking had to do was not respond, faggot.

>>384108819
Microsoft doesn't scan your hard drive or upload your personal files anywhere. If you actually cared about privacy you wouldn't be using Windows in the first place anyway.

>>384089390
>>384089538
Well Kaby Lake is only supported by Windows 10 and so is Ryzen. So basically what you're saying is you should never buy a CPU made after 2016 in your lives again or you should deal with trying to play games on Linux/Mac.

>>384079510
windows 10 pro für 20$. was cheap af, no reason not to

>>384079510
where in the fucking hell is that option? i got windows10 on my laptop only because i got it with windows8 first

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>>384109926
>Kaby Lake is only supported by Windows 10 and so is Ryzen.
Wrong.

>>384109823
>Not respond
that's not how The game works newfag.

>>384110018
No, it isn't wrong.
Just because you can get X to run on Y doesn't mean it is supported.
Look up the meaning of "supported".

>>384110018
why is your ram so shitty?

>>384109996
I was asking the same thing but you can download the update yourself if you google it. It will update by itself sometime later. I'll do it tomorrow who knows how long that will take.

>>384109970
Windows 10 is literally $0 if you already have Windows 7. Which is also what it's actually worth.

>>384110219
I build a new pc 2 months ago. I used windows 7 before. from 2009 to 2015, then a few months win8 (which was utter garbage) and win 10 is the fastest of them all. Also having bitlocker for only 20$ is ok.

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>>384110096
Doesn't change the fact it does run on Ryzen and crablake.

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I'm literally deleting that shit and migrating to linux today. Been trying out many distros from live usb and I'm ready to leave it all behind

>>384085002
So I'm getting spied on by AyyMD and Novidya, why add Micro$hit to that list?

>tfw most of my backlog doesn't have Linux versions
If I install 7 SP1 and block updates before connecting to the internet, am I safe?

>>384110417
Doesn't change the fact that it isn't supported and you were wrong.
You can probably also run Windows XP on Ryzen, does that mean it's supported?

It has the same level of support as a Homebrew Linux has on a console. Have fun looking up how you can get security updates back after every patchday.

>>384110736
Don't be stupid. Install everything that's tagged as security update, then run that script from github that removes the undesired ones.

>>384110758
>security updates
kek
you're falling back on this argument again everytime you spaz out about non windows 10 OSes running on modern hardware

>>384110736
>If I install 7 SP1 and block updates before connecting to the internet, am I safe?
Make sure you have a good firewall on your router.
>>384110840
A number of those security updates are garbage to begin with, you sometimes see it in their logs where they fix one thing only to end up breaking two things, and then they push out another update that fixes the breakage while hoping nothing else is broken.

>>384079510
I will buy it when all games will have it as a minimal requirement. And only if said games are worth it.

Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2 ain't enough to convince me to buy it. Especially after how it broke my machine.

>>384111036
At least Halo 6 is coming. They port the rest of the series later, hopefully. And all other Xbox exclusives.

>>384110871
Maybe other people are telling you the same as it's a legitimate argument and I don't see any response to it in your post.
Not like it's the only drawback with just the simple installation being a hassle. But have fun with your non-supported non-updated CPU, especially a couple years down the line.

>>384111135
As I said (and will also precise it further). Will buy it when all future (precised it) games will have it as a minimal requirement.

At this point it's one big malware and Microsoft doesn't give a shit over quality control for a really long time. Trump should've enforced quality control on the PC industry and put a leash on them about the whole downloading data stuff on their private servers. If I'm at it, then enforced quality control on also on browsers and videogames in the US.

But I ain't American sadly.

>>384111274
every time Windows 10 is shat on somebody inevitably uses the muh security update
the only support necessary is mobo chip drivers, and AMD provides that

>>384079510
>gamemode on
>your FPS drops for no fucking reason

Thanks Microcuck

>>384111421
>Trump should've enforced quality control on the PC industry
That is not the President's responsibility, that balls is in the private enterprise's court. Linux and it's proprietary derivatives like Android must become a bigger threat in order for Microsoft to really pull its shit together.

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can't remember how to get rid of it

>>384111421
>At this point it's one big malware
You're delusional if you think Windows 10 is malware, but 7 is perfectly okay.

>>384111669
7 is perfectly okay.

>>384111735
lol

>>384111512
Darn. Sadly Linux will not have enough power to become a rival to Microsoft due to how most PC users are normies that cannot properly use Linux (I'm sadly one of these and I only experienced Mint).

The only way for Microsoft to get good would be if they fell into a situation so bad it would force them to actually do quality control.

>>384111669
Tell that to my laptop and how it suffered the BSOD even after I did a clean install of Win10.

>2017
>still using Microsoft anything
If you're not using a truly free and open source software OS with truly free and open source games, you're part of the problem.

>>384111781
>Sadly Linux will not have enough power to become a rival to Microsoft
It's powerful enough to make Microsoft cry about abysmal market share on mobile. All those shekels lost, goyim. Think of the shekels.

>>384111781
I don't think you know what malware is.

>>384111817
The only thing that matters is if Linux can run Runescape.
The answer is yes it can.

>>384111817
Yeah but sometimes only playing Tux Kart and Quake becomes boring

>>384111852
Well that's a plus.

>>384111857
The BSOD was caused by sending too much data on me.

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>mfw still using Windows 7 to this day

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>>384079510
>mfw turning this on also secretly re-enables Micro$hits keylogger and they sell all your internet searches to advertisers and the government

>>384111967
If you don't play AAA games from the big faggots of the industry Ubisoft/EA/Activision linux is good enough.
2hu support is pretty good on linux.

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>people still refuse to even look at linux because they think you NEED the command line
It's a normal destop with normal applications, guys.

>>384110417
>spend that much on a computer
>buy poverty RAM

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>>384112123
Ram prices are FUCKED compared to last year

>>384112023
americans use way too much make up

>>384112169
americans don't know how to use make up
they see a porno and copy that

>>384112073
As far as I know you still need the command line to compile programs that only come as source without an executable.

Yes it's 2017 and STILL no distribution has implemented a simple future where you can right-click on a .tar.gz and choose "compile and install from source" and it does all that shit for you.

Why? Because Linux developers are autists with no empathy. They think that because compiling from source is so trivial and easy, nobody would need such a feature. Because they can't comprehend other people's views. Same as serial killers.

>>384112023
She's better natural though.
On the right she looks like a whore.

>>384103032
Reinstalling windows and getting rid of anything is the only thing that's going to help your craptop, if its still slow then its just a shitty laptop and its time to upgrade.

>>384112279
What fucking programs are you talking about? Name a single fucking daily use program that requires compiling and using gentoo is not an answer.

>>384103032
You could disable aero if you have trouble with performance.

>>384112493
Why does it need to be daily use you fucking faggot?

>>384103146
It's from some 70s movie

>>384079510
>Free to play videogames are ad infested nickle and diming jewish bullshit
>BUT IT WILL BE TOTALLY FINE TO HAVE A FREE TO PLAY OPPERATING SYSTEM

lol no.

>>384112534
because that is the yardstick by which you measure, behanchod
there aren't any programs/applications/whatever on linux nowadays that require compiling from source, all you do is download it and put it in a directory

>>384112534
Alright, since you can't name one i'll make it easier for you. Any program that you would need to use.

looks like pajeet is angry I called him a sister fucker

>>384086208
If you're still lurking, i had the same problem, it's a driver problem

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I've downgraded.
No more browser-based trojans for me

>>384087471
>"medium/high settings"
What's the point in a comparison if they don't use a single set of settings as a constant?

>>384112279
>>384112534
What's taking you so long?

the retard is still mad about being called a sister fucker
must have touched a nerve

>>384110736
>>tfw most of my backlog doesn't have Linux versions
Besides checking for actual ports you should also check appdb.winehq.org, if it's got a silver/gold/platinum rating on there you can still run it just fine.

>>384112860
>>384113869
The fuck are you talking about?

>call pajeet a behanchod
>he shuts up

Windows 10 is better in every way except being able to individually pick which updates you want to install

>>384112686
>>384112697
No it isn't.
Plenty of programs you don't use every day, some you maybe only use once.
Most programs that aren't very popular, therefore aren't in the package manager, often little specialized programs that only do one specific task.
The same kind of programs where on Windows, you would have the option to just download a .zip with a 1 MB .exe and a readme in it, without having to do an actual install.
And even programs that do come as packages or executable, they often only do so only for a few popular distributions, and since the pecking order of Linux distributions changes all the time, just choosing the most popular on at the time doesn't mean much a few years down the line.

I don't use Linux anymore so I'm not gonna name one, certainly not gonna waste time searching for them because you guys like playing dumb. I had to do it fairly regularly when I was using Linux a few years ago.

How about YOU answer MY question though? Since compiling from source is an integral part of using Linux for more than a week, why don't developers add the feature that I mentioned? It could probably be done in less than an hour.
The answer, of course, is either autism or elitism, there is no other possibility.

>>384113641
It's noon on a Sunday you awful little cumstain, it's called having a life outside of your mother's basement.

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>>384112010
>mfw finally installing Windows 7 after 1 year switch over to Skylake and mind-twisting agony of fighting w/ Win 8.1 UI
>seeing that heart warming wallpaper

>>384079510
void gameMode()
{
// TODO
}

>>384087203
I'm so sorry

>>384110840
lmao that's how they get people like you, who are only a little retarded.

>>384110950
How do I set up a firewall on my shitty router? Should I just buy a new one?

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>>384102925
thank you wandows 10

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Does windows 10 Superfetch help or hinder performance in games /v/?

Is it worth disabling?

>>384089353
Why would someone willingly want to upgrade to Windows 10? Even Microsoft calls it a tablet OS.

Also, Windows 12 is around the corner and guess what, you won't be able to run or install pirated games anymore.

I'll hold out until Microsoft decides they want to make a real PC OS again that isn't just closed mobile bullshit that has to emulate everything.

>>384114660
>Windows 12
nigga, what?

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>>384114615
more thanks wandows

>>384114778
Under which rock have you been living?

I've installed fucking arch linux just for the day when microsoft decides it's time to day of the rope windows 7 users to a new level.

They have to pay me to upgrade. The absolute least I'd take to join the bot net is a new fucking processor. Microsoft best be paying me at the very least a brand new i9 or AMD equivalent.

Fuck you microsoft.

>>384114968
yeah, right after they decided 10 will be the last one and a service from now on.

>>384114239
>integral part of using Linux for more than a week
Hahaha. Nigga I have 2 years under my belt and I don't have even a single need for compiling. I actually looked for it though and I can't find a gui option for it. Might be because compiling requires you to just type "make" in the terminal, might be elitism.

Yoir argument is still invalid because of the rarity of the situation

>>384114790
How is this not your fault?

>>384115185
Might not apply if all you do is use Facebook and Steam I guess

win 10 is malware, i don't care what people say. i don't know how the normies put up with it, i really don't. i'm not super technology competent when it comes to OSes so i don't know how to disable all of the bullshit that comes with windows 10, but shouldn't that affect the normies too? like, the random restarts, the forced updates, the surveillance, the ads.. it's all just such nonsense, which is why i'm back on windows 7. windows 10 can fuck off, it's only a "casual" OS if you want to spend 5 hours configuring it, and at that point you're better off just installing and learning linux

>>384079510
this shit is worthless for the majority of games and the small amount of games that change, change for the worse.

>>384079510
fuck of you /g/ spammer shiter fuck off with your bot net.

>>384115206
How is it his or her fault?

>>384115260
They don't know about it. And normies will blame their computer when they fuck up using it, so ads and random restarts aren't that big a change from 'it not doing what I want'.
And that whole forced update unless you opt out thing. They are basically taking advantage of people who don't know any better.

>>384115238
What fucking else you do on windows??????? Play games, shitpost on /v/, watch movies...

You're assuming people become superhackers immediately when they transition to Linux and want some obscure programs right off the bat.

>>384115260
10 doesn't restart randomly or have ads. Windows 7 had a surveillance update a long time ago except you can't turn it off.

>>384083709
why should I install gentoo

>>384115453
idk, i feel like most normies from 20-30 would understand pretty well the nuances between windows 10 and windows 7.. or else they would just use mac

>>384115549
yes, windows 10 does. and i obviously torrented W7 so i'm on SP1. i would much rather give my computer to the hacker botnet through vulnerabilities than let microsoft get its hands on it

>>384115549
>Windows 7 had a surveillance update a long time ago except you can't turn it off.
All that did was upgrade CEIP collect more data taken you've OPTED IN to it.

>>384115556
It's a /g/ meme. Sure it teaches you how it works, but unless you work at IT, you have absolutely no use for it.

>>384115614
>yes, windows 10 does
I'm using 10 right now, it has literally never randomly restarted and it doesn't have ads. You've joined some russian botnet because memes told you to.

>>384079510
>Have you finally ungraded to Windows 10?
no
>It's literally made for gamers like us.
only if you're playing a game that requires dx12

>>384115764
And as long as a large portion of people are still not on Windows 10 developers won't switch to DX12.

DX12 is a stillbirth.

>>384115734
alright

>>384115757
>it has literally never randomly restarted and it doesn't have ads
cool, it does for me and for a lot of other people

>>384116084
It's more likely something you've downloaded. Get some decent anti-virus and anti malware software then stop getting your vidya from anonymous Russians and furries.

>>384115556
Gentoo is a /g/ meme, if you want to use Linux you should use some easy distribution like Ubuntu instead of tedious shit like Gentoo.

>>384116317
something i've downloaded???????????? dude, it's IN THE OS, on fresh installs? you must be fucking with me

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>>384080669
>>384080853
>>384081241
>>384083652
>>384087612
>>384090132
>>384090935
ahah you guys are so funny lmao

>>384116395
Where, remember before you answer: I actually have a legitimate version of 10, not some "fixed" version made by Russian NEETs.

>>384116337

Its amusing because you mention games on /g/ and you get told to go back to /v/

I love /g/ but its full of easily asshurt autists

>>384107693
>LinusTechTips
Into the trash it goes

>>384116337
/g/ likes it because it's tedious, it makes them feel like super hackers.

>>384115260
Normies know shit.
Have you ever touched someone else computer?
Have you seen how slow their laptops are?
For them it's all normal.

why would i install any other os after ive been using win7 for 5 years?

>>384116675
what did you use before that?

>>384116718
xp, i started pc gaymen when i was 15 and i bought a pc with my money from a Christmas tree harvesting job

>>384116823
and what made you switch to 7?

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i only run the latest technology bro

>>384116862
i was using a laptop (i plugged in replacements) with a nonfunctional monitor and keyboard and it was slow as shit

>ctrl + f "linux"
>32 result
/g/ invaded this thread already

>>384116675
Keep in mind that the argument between 7, 10 and Loonix comes down to what games you play, I switched to Loonix at the beginning of the "free upgrade" shistorm and I didn't had much to pay for because most of the games I play are either retro or emulated.

People defending 10 are talking about newer games or how sooner or later they will be only playable in Windows 10 because 7 will be outdated (which is dumb since 7 is still the majority of the market), if you use 7 and don't see any need to upgrade them don't do it, if you desperately need those windows 10 "exclusives" you can always use a virtual box like the other loonix users

>>384116983
I still refuse to believe 7 is faster than Xp

>>384117123
all i know is that win7 on 8 gb of ram with a mid range card is faster than xp on a 4 year old broken laptop

>>384117109
i just hate the ui

>>384117281
well, that explains it

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Just FYI, if you do win 7 system updates you're already getting spied, too.
Unless you filtered out every update that adds/updates telemetry.

Guess there are lists floating around the web of update numbers you should look out for.
And when updating new stuff, always check update notes on every packet and if it says something like "improves customer experience by sending MS data" or "telemetry" or other keywords uncheck it and remove it from the update list.

I have a gaming related product. It's called "PS4".