>14 years old >still the best looking and the most complex

>>383999736
it's a good game, but holy shit I suck at it hard

>>383999963
Me too. I really don't get it at all.

>>383999736
>best looking

I agree. Cities Skylines looks shit, SC4 graphics were comfy as fuck

>>383999736
>Toyota Center
Can you make a 1:1 replica of Houston in this game?

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>>384000140
Time to get ready for max comfy

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>>384000449

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>>384000521

Any good mods I should have?

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>>384000590
https://pastebin.com/Fg9qNhcM

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>>384000658
Network addon mod is essential
oldshoes pack is pretty decent

>>383999736
SC4 had literal tons of great custom models, pity they're hell to install

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>>384000739

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>>384000812

>>384000807
Blame the autistic modders who refuse to work together, forcing you to install 500 dependencies

>>384000739
>>384000812
>>384000942
post them all

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>>384000942

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>>384001010

>>384001009
last one

>>383999736
>needs a user made addon to even function correctly
>have to avoid building a certain way in order to avoid the eternal commuter loop bug

Game is shit.

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>>384001181
>>383999736
Anons how do I make a good looking and efficient city, lads? Every time I try I fail miserably. Should I start studying urban planning?

which is better? SC4 or Cities Skylines?

>>384001496
SC4 is god tier, CS is a joke

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Time for SC4 screenshots, you say?

>>384001496
Depends if you want a hardcore city simulator or if you want a city building sandbox

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>>384001616

>>383999736
games arent allowed to be complex anymore
its not inclusive

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>>384001496
The question is pointless, they do different things. I enjoy them both, for different reasons.

>>384001616
post them all, my dick is diamonds

>>384001378
think out of the box

>>384000031
Man, my cities in every city builder game look symmetrical to the fault, like Nazi camps, I never know how I can make areas looks comfy like in your pick.

>>384001963
Grid is love, grid is life

>1024x768
Max res?

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>>384001868
Sadly, I only have very few that actually look good

>putting the jazz music from SimCity 3000 into SimCity 4

Perfection

welp time to install it

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>>384002097

>>384002103
SC4 soundtrack was pretty comfy as well

>>384002080
nope, you can change it to custom resolution, it's extremely easy

>make a shortcut
>right click the shortcut, go to properties, destination
>example: "C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4\Apps\SimCity 4.exe" -w -r1920x1080x32
>start the game

Is there a guide to making the game good somewhere? Like what mods to use and whatnot? Never played Simcity before.

>>384002427
>>384000658

>>384002465
Ah thanks didn't notice

you can spend hours and hours in this game and it never gets boring

>>383999736
Nah, it will be literally perfect if somebody managed to do a open source version so i dont have to play puzzle with mod parts like the roads in NAM, fixed the bugs and make the community not fucking autistic about dependencies.
Still the best though.

>>384002643
Use OldShoe's mod pack?
It has everything configurated in the best possible way, so all the beneifts, without crashes.

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Everyone is making beautiful cities and I end up with blocks 10/x10, because I can't drop my autism about efficiency and it all just sprawls into the same city over and over again.
Is there a way to make this game both max efficient and max comfy? I'm trying for years and each time I end up eventually with generic 10x10 blocks, straight roads, no diagonals, no funky bullshit and... it's just painful.
While effcient.

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I have it on a disk and I legit cannot figure out how to get it to fucking work
I've downloaded the community patches and the launcher and it just doesn't run.

>>384001963
He's using mods, for starters. But my advice to you is to plant a lot of trees.

>>384001496
Skylines. If people took the time to make their own assets like the ones shown here for SC4 (which are other people's and not anyone here) and manually create the cities like these shown from SC4 (again, other people's, not one from thread) it would be far superior.

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http://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/73555-simcity-4-and-the-nam-how-to-best-enjoy-this-city-building-masterpiece-today/

11/10 site, check it if you like simcity

>>384002894
Pirate GoG version, install it, deinstall it, apply your legit copy.
Solves 90% of all issues

>>384002889
Are you catalanonian?

>>384002969
Still fucked up traffic system.
Still idiotic thresholds.
Still retarded range of buildings to operate.

And those are all core elements of the gameplay, what even when modded still suck.

>>384002763
Shame that the autistic modders stopped oldshoes from updating his modpack

Why isnt there a realistic libertarian city simulator where i do nothing and city becomes prosperous?

>>384001346
Holy shit. Is that a pure Japanese asset set?
I never played Sim4. Is this part of the game? Expansions? Mod? HOW DO YOU GET THIS?!

>>384003291
go to simtropolis, they have everything you need

SC4 was fucking stupid
>Industry uses so much water it's more profitable to not give them any
>Traffic system that makes no sense
>Shit performance
>Needs tons of mods to be playable

>>384001496
>I want to make a massive cities connected to each other
>I like 2D sprites
>I like a great variety of mods
>I use a toaster to play videogames
Simcity 4
>I want to play road building simulator
>I like 3D and having a free camera
>I like mods to be simple to install
>I have a powerfull computer

Skylines

>>384003000
... who? What?

>>384003350
Will look into it, thanks.

>>384003378
no

>>384003291
>>384003350
Different anon, but mod name? Looks fucking epic.

>want to replay the game
>remember the HD I installed it on is dead
>remember I'd have to reinstall a billion mods
>remember half the mod sites are dead
>lose interest in playing the game

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>>384003378
>Trying this hard

>>384001378
SC4 focuses especially on transportation. Making your road and transit systems efficient is key. Then again, there are some odd factors in how the sims behave that can seem strange and a little nonsensical, and how some of the mechanics work. I've read that once you make a connection to another region off the edge of your city map, many Sims will travel to the next city for work (this has to do with all the city maps in a region being connected and their growth being dependent on each other).

Best way to start is don't invest in education too quickly. The cost will quickly outgrow your tax base if you start building high schools and colleges, or even elementary schools, right away. Low-education sims will allow you to build a lot of dirty industry that will give you a solid tax base, and you can slowly begin the process of transitioning towards higher educated sims and high-tech industry.

anyone else love making industrial hellhole cities?

there's just something fun about making a massive sprawl of dirty industry right next to a city that looks like it has a life expectancy of 35
bonus points for turning all the water into a good ol' toxic brown

>>384003481
>I'm a stupid summer that is too lazy to do the job, so I will pretend some shit up until they spoon-feed me
http://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/73555-simcity-4-and-the-nam-how-to-best-enjoy-this-city-building-masterpiece-today/

Now get the fuck out

>>384001736
This. Most normies don't want to have to think too much, they just want to build a big city with lots of tall shiny buildings as quickly as possible.

>we don't live in the alternate universe where Simcity 5 was basically 4 but with higher detail, a better engine and several important mods included in the base package

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>>384003402

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>>384004078

>>384003825
Any of you niggas ever play Gangsters?

I am getting city-view flashbacks to that game.

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yes, this is SC4

>>384003825
Too many random diagonals. Always bugged me with Barcelona.
Speaking of which - what city had also straight roads, accompanied with symetrical diagonals, rather than random ones? I think it was something in Latin America, probably Argentina.

>>384004332
Yes, but edited with photoshop.

>>384004343
La Plata

>>383999736

Probably because they hired actual architects to help design and style everything. This is also why I have such a hard time playing CS for so long. The style for all the buildings is terrible. You can tell they didn't actually study how real world buildings, specially older buildings and houses look. Everything looks like some shitty post modern Europe building. Nothing has that look and grit of old 1940's art deco of New York or Chicago.

It's the same thing with the overall style. CS is much more colorful and cartoony like model sets while SC4 has more earth tones with a much heaver focus on realism.

>>384001629
Neither is a hardcore game unless CS got an update all of a sudden.

>>384003747

>Mfw I actually enjoy SC5 more than CS.

It's like they took all the concepts from SC5 and then just continued to not actually finish them.

>>384005063
10/10

God SC4 is such a great game

>>384005150
This region was uploaded to mediafire a few years back, shame the archives got pruned and I can't find the link any more.

>still the best looking
I can think of a few city builders who looked better.

they were shit games, but they looked nice.

>>383999736
wait, what? is this houston?

>>384000593
The Road network mod, forgot its exact name. thats the only must have mod. the rest is pretty much whatever you like

>>384003727
Seeing the Hungarian parliament in SC4 screenies always weirds me out

>>384004759
I am unable to enjoy SC5, because the entire simulation is essentially lies upon lies told straight to your face

And here is a great video to finish off the pictures I've been posting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kDrC32rm7A

>>383999736
I could never build a single profitable city.

>>384004540
Thanks. If diagonals work better in SC4, that would be my model city

>>384000290
woah, you literally can't do shit like this in cities skylines. even with mods!

>>384004631
Though I love CS, I agree - the vanilla buildings are at best bland, and at worst, horrible-looking.

>>383999736
Mandatory mods? What I should install besides NAM? How I git gud?

>>384006343
NAM combined with the mod allowing you to build commuting stops on roads rather on blocks are the only must-haves.
Everything else is purely optional, but those two are a must.

Honestly, watch youtube on basics of SC4. Helps a lot completely green players. Hell, my mother ended up playing SC4 when she started retirement few months ago with youtube help and the last game she played was Lemmings.

only thing that bothers me is that alot of the buildings look the same.

>>384006536
Thats why you download a lot of custom buildings.

Deepest lore https://youtu.be/nDJzf5jqccw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTJQTc-TqpU

Has anything of this scale ever been attempted in SC4?

>>384006723
Here are my 2 favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97N1MyuOyiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yskny4J01V0

>>384000658
Most of the links are dead, including all the mod packs.

>>384006907
simtropolis

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>>383999736
cities skyline is superior in everyway. stop playing horrible casual games

>>384006972
It hosts mods individually rather packs. sifting through the mods manually it too much work.

>>384007006
t.underage

>>384006723
spooky as fuck

>>384005996
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING

>>384007125
t. casual

>>384006907
>>384006972
https://sites.google.com/site/sc4modds/

>>383999736
I wonder if I can get SimCity 3000 to work on my toaster...? I forgot that I bought that game.

>>384007006
>SC4
>Casual
>Brings CS as a counter
You were saying?

>>383999736
>how did they do it?
Black magic.

>>384007582
Feel free to pirate GoG version. Works like charm.

need more isometric games. It allows artists to directly express themselves. No artwork to shitty 3D model, just a sprite directly made by an artist. Factorio has some cool sprites.

>>384000521
What mods are these my dude?

>>383999736
Hiring bunch of architects and city planners.
Hiring really good artist and research team to do all the sprites.
Keeping it all relatively simple, but with very strong emphasis on simulation.
Using experience from previous projects AND fanbase feedback to work on improving things from previous game.

In short - the typical middle-to-big budget game from early-to-mid 00s. A lot of effort by people who were in the business for quite some while and good communication between them, with clearly defined objectives.

Compare it with with the utter mishandling of the latest SC "game" and you will see it all even more clear.
Or with Cities Skylines, which was made by people who were previously working on traffic simulator (and a pretty mediorce one), with dry artstyle of generic 3D, zero architect and city-planning feedback, no fanbase to ask and then openly waiting for emerging fanbase to create mods to repack ideas from them as DLCs.

Honestly, I really miss the way the games were done before about 2005 mark, when everyone jumped on 3D and other gimmics, then their projects collapesed and then they were bought by big fishes in the business, turning into obedient slaves with zero creativity left, because contract forbids that.

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2D art >>>> 3D

post more pics

>>384008109
You do realize those buildings are 3D models, right?

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made this one city years ago, then haven't touched it since

i feel like i'd have to start over from scratch or i wouldn't remember what i'm doing anymore

>>384008312
But they are still 2D sprites

I honestly feel like it was because they clearly had alot of corporate sponsors (Toyota/McDonald's, etc.)

Probably gave them the money to hire quality resources to get it done real well. Great advertisement opportunity for the corps, and it doesn't feel like forced jewery since it's a fucking city. Also.. small bonus is that it eliminates the need to literally pay a team of like 6 dudes to come up with decent sounding fake business names to add realism to the city.

>>384008109
why is it so gorgeous

>>384008351
It really bothers me how you literally cut the sky-scrapers off and then the city just ends right after that. Reminds me that fancy fake city from North Korea, which the longer you look at it, the more fake it gets

>>384008351

You should print that map out and take your daily shit on it.

It is your right as their creator.

For the sims a nice serving of "humble pie"

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>>383999736
Today OP was not a fag.

Best Sim City. If anyone here is from EA please kill yourself.

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>>384008545

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>>384008504
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>>384008617

>>384008659
>tfw no German city except Frankfurt has sky scrapers
I am okay with that

>>384008447
clean and detailed textures

3D games always have to limit the detail or it inflates the polycount and destroys performance

2D art is limited by the artist's imagination

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>>384008697

>>383999736
It's so hard to get running on modern PCs though :(

>>384008659
Hong Kong literally has no space to have anything even resembling European suburbs, not to mention American-style one-family houses.
In case of that map? Literally 3/4 of it is left open, this is but a corner of it covered in tall buildings for no real reason

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>>384008773

>>384008083
If I became obscenely rich or won the lottery I'd fund the true successor to SC4 so that my city building autism would be satisfied.

>>384008826
Just use GOG version. It's perfectly fine even on Windows 10.

>>384008756
I wonder if it's possible to have the best of both worlds one day.

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>>384008861
Should I stop or keep going?

>>383999736
Game? Reminds me of SimCity,

>>384008872
can I marry you

>>384001601
>>384001629
>>384001779
>>384002969
>>384003385

thanks fags, i have skylines but i'll prob get SC4 and check it out. i used to play SC2k obsessively so my nostalgia boner will probably point toward SC but i just wanted some input

>>384008872
Don't want to burst your bubble, but you would need about 35-50 million bucks to pull that off. It would have to be a hell of a lottery.

I would do the same, no indie bullshit or pocket-change projects from Kickstarter or other crowd-funding bullshit, that has a hard ceiling of about 8 millions.

>>384008956
wtf is that white line on the rooftop about?

>>384008956
no no please keep posting, they're beautiful

>>384008956
Few pics more and I probably but simcity again

>>384009027
Probably run a kikestarter to chip off a few mil

>>384000752
Hey that building is in Kowloon HK. Very Cool

>>384008872
>>384009027
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTCH

>>384008951
best of both worlds is what a modern day SC could have been like
instead we got simshitty facebook edition

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>>384009064
>>384009072
I'll keep on moving.

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>>384009156

>>384009027
>Euromillions over 100 mil GBP
>Winnings are tax-free

>>384009095
To chip off - yes.
To base funding on it? Fuck no. That's the mistake too many nostalgia driven projects have made.

But honestly? I would like to see Sierra's city builders remade in style of Emperor. You know, still keeping them 2D, still sprites, but all the upgrades the entire franchise got over each title: moddable city blocks, greatly expanded campaigns and so on. Because whenever I return to anything made before at least Zeus (which still wasn't perfect), I end up with pointless slums or retarded combinations just to block my walkers.
And no 3D bullshit, thanks, Caesar 4 did that and was utter shit, along Children of the Nile.

>original SC4 team goes on kickstarter
>they want to make a proper SC5

what do you think would happen

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>>384009237
No more city pics, now onto the countryside.

>>384009117
I'd take his money but forbid him from interfering in the development

>>384009298
never ending early access. so no

>>384009117
Is that fat fuck even still alive?

Anything even came out of the projects he helped to fund?

>>384000140
>Cities Skylines looks shit
It really fucking does. I don't know what the precise issue is, but the game simply refuses to look decent regardless of the in-game weather conditions or time of day.

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>>384009313

I love the realistic art style of SC4, makes all the future building mods look really great and properly futuristic and industrial/high tech.

Cities Skylines just doesn't have the same realistic aesthetic, too cartoony.

>>384009257
>Be Polefag
>Typical "huge" lottery win is about 6-7 mil euro
>It's shit both locally and globally
You can't even win decent lottery here. And banks can't be robbed, since there is nothing inside.

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>>384009427

>>384009391
It's simple:
It's made by Scandis.
That means IKEA look on everything. Everything is in dull, bright pasteles and looks like plastic, being as lifeless as it can get.

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>>384009498
Welp. I have to go now, so here's the grand finale pic.

My dream SC4 successor:
>Engine designed to scale well with lots of CPU cores and GPUs
>Freeform camera?
>Easily moddable with steam workshop or reduced dependency autism
>Pseudo-random building generation (don't want to run in to the same buildings over and over again)
>Enhanced SC4 graphics and simulation
>More realism (like no 45 degree incline roads)
>Easier to build transport networks
>Easier to add eye candy (fuck putting down 100s of props)

>>384009428
not only high tech, the realistic art style means that it can actually (with a couple of mods) properly portray the grimy aspects of a city which in turn helps make everything feel a lot more real.

Can't really have a good part of town without the bad side.

>>384009645
>Can't really have a good part of town without the bad side.
Burger, leave

>>384009625
>>Easier to build transport networks
They are as easy as they can get, anon, what the fuck

>>384009608
dayum son

>>384009608
I'm most impressed by the fact that he actually managed to post a screenshot of almost 9k resolution on /v/

>>384009781
Building a junction using the RHW system is a pain in the ass

>>384009625
>don't want to run in to the same buildings over and over again
actually I would like to see a smart algorithm that can occasionally build buildings in construction projects

like you'll never see the same exact prestige skyscraper twice in the same city, however you'll get patches of identical commieblocks bunched together if zoning allows

same with homes: villas are all different, but you'll get some similar looking premade housing projects (maybe with small, random, differences in tiny props on the houses)

perhaps all of this could be done with a new type of zone called a "project development" zone which allows for similarly looking buildings to be constructed at exactly the same time

Ok, wait for it... wait...
Imagine SC4... wait... combined with...
Railroad Tycoon 2.

You build both the cities and the railway all over the huge-ass map divided into smaller regions, and your build up, demand and shit is affected by the scale of that rail.

>>384000140
>>384009391
Cities Skylines looks really good if you play it on high. The game play is also very rewarding It is the spiritual successor for SC4.

>>384009908
That's a pretty good system

I also forgot to say that the data viewing system in SC2013 was pretty well thought out and better than the datamaps from SC4

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>imagining a game that will never exist

>>384009952
It really isn't, Cities: Skylines is more of a City building game rather than a city management game.

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>>384004343
Detroit and Washington originally had sweet hexagons in their boring grids

>>384009952
Bullshit. It's some sort of meme or what? I run it on highest, since my PC is no slouch. And it looks like plastic piece of garbage, because it's just the artstyle of the game.

>>384010192
Well, I agree on that. There's too lttle management in C:S. I remember that a lot of the fun in SC4 was tweaking the budget of departments and buildings get just enough cover and still get money.

However, traffic management is much mre enjoyable in C:S.

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alright anons here we go

>>384010202
There is a city in Rurh area, can't recall which one, which has old town with streets aligned like a fan.

>>384010449
literally me

>>384010449
the fuck is that resolution

>>384010449
congrats on completing the first part of the installation process
now come the 5 hours of installing mods, 7 if you haven't already tracked them down on whatever obscure website they're currently located

My biggest gripe with C:S is how poorly it deals with elevation. Buildings on a slope just looks way better in SC4

>>384010449
You still have NAM to install.
And Launcher.

And other mods.

>>383999736
i prefer tropico

>>384010540
a cropped one

amature dev here. Thinking about making a city building game. I know /v/ hates it but it would voxel styled. The idea though is that it would have it's own Urban Renewal Kit like in SC 2000 so you can easily make your own buildings and share them instead of needing to know fancy modding shit.

ASSUMING I make a relatively decent simulation would you play it?

>>384010629
>implying you even know how to make gaems

ok this is it, installing SC4 right now

>>384010629
It's an interesting idea. Just don't make it look like Minecraft.

>>384010540

it's my 5.471464019851117:4 resolution monitor

>what is screenshot monitor region

>>384010541

i'm just going to install the network addon mod and go from there. if i really like it i'll get the stex DVD or whatever because i'm not going to spend a bunch of time hunting for mods. i did that crap once already with honey select only because my dick got involved in the decision, but i'll never sink that much time into mod-surfing again.

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Which game lets me build ultramodern circle cities with all of the traffic and parking underground?

>>384009952
>Cities Skylines looks really good if you play it on high.
You really think I'm complaining about the visuals of a game that I'm not already playing on the highest possible settings?

>>383999736
>14 years on
>still don't know how to play it

I'm not stupid when it comes to god games. I've played Civ and other 4X games. Sim City just boggles me.

>>384010591
Jokes on you, anon

>>384010449
Here mate, grab it:
http://www117.zippyshare.com/v/ApZMwVuW/file.html
OldShoe's modpack for ya, just saved you about 4 to 6 hours of life.

>>384010629
If the core mechanics are good, why not? Just give me a good enough perspective and zoom.

>>384010935
Cities Skylines, although you would still need some roads on the surface but the core of transportation can be done underground if you wish so.

>>384011024
Watch youtube tutorials. Honestly, helps a lot to everyone. I at least managed to make non-grid based cities thanks to them, but they also explain how economy works, so go figure

>>384011024
It's not that fucking hard. Never EVER give them more services than you can afford and ALWAYS micromanage the shit out of everything (yes this means constantly messing with the sliders of individual service buildings). There, I just learned you how to play SC4

>>384011037

dope, thanks anon. i wasn't going to sink a bunch of time into looking at mods but i might do some minimal googling while i go take a dump

interesting statistics about SC4 threads

1 out of 3 people reading one such thread without SC4 installed on their computer will attempt to install it

26% of these installers will find their installation to be incompatible with their current OS

another 45% will successfully install the game but give up during the modding process and proceed to forget about it until the next thread. Half of which will then switch over to CS, the other half are stuck in a loop until the next thread.

Of the remaining 29%, 48% will experience critical mod incompatibility and severe crashes resulting in them still dropping the game, another 48% will actually go and play the fully modded game and a remaining 4% are the poor bastards who decide that they'll enjoy playing the game in it's vanilla state

>>384008083
>Or with Cities Skylines, which was made by people who were previously working on traffic simulator (and a pretty mediorce one), with dry artstyle of generic 3D, zero architect and city-planning feedback

this is why I cant get into skylines, the cities look so spiritless. it may have some better mechanics but even vanilla SC4 cities look so much more pleasant

>On-board graphics, 128 MB RAM, single core CPU
>Game runs like ass, never rotate camera because it takes over a minute, scrolling across the city takes several minutes, still play it
>Upgrade to Nvidia 64 MB GPU and 256 MB RAM
>Game runs way better, can actually scroll kind of smooth
>Get new computer with ATI 128 MB GPU and 1 GB RAM, dual core CPU
>Runs kinda better, but surprised that it's not perfect still
>Many years later, throw Nvidia 9600 GSO 512 MB in a prebuilt with 2GB of RAM, quad core CPU
>still doesn't run perfect
>Even more years later, build computer with i5 4570 and GTX 760 2GB with 8 GB of RAM
>still doesn't run perfect
>Upgrade to GTX Meme70 3.5GB and 16 GB of RAM
>still doesn't run perfect
I'm not a programmer or anything, but I still find it crazy that no one ever figured out some way to make such a popular game utilize all the resources of a modern computer.

>>384011841
It's a simulation and it's CPU bound. It was programmed in the single core era and single core performance has barely improved more than 50% in a decade.

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>install
>begin new city
>so far so good
>after some time water pipes break every second
what do i do against this instead of fixing it by hand every 10 seconds

>>384012143
give them money, water plants always at 100% of money

>>384012331
>give them money, water plants always at 100% of money
this kills the budget

>>384011351
>Implying this hard
There is a GOG version, you know?

>>384012430
Not really, only do that with water because broken pipes are a pain in the ass. Always regulate the rest and decrease demand by taxing if you neeeed that money.

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I remember one of the Simcitys had this great idea where you could export maps of your city to SimCopter or that car game they made and go roaming around them.
All these comfy isometric city screencaps make me wish I could import Simcity files to Brigador and go fuck shit up in them with a Broodmare.

>>383999736
Too bad simtropolis redesigned their website to make finding mods a ridiculous pain compared to how it was in 2010

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>>384012949
I wish the traffic simulation was more reasonable in this game.
>farming region
>instantly jammed with tractors doing nothing other than driving back and forth on roads as dense as city blocks

>>384012949
Why are you posting this in my comfy SC4 thread?

>>384012949
>Cities Skylines

This is not the thread for that

Can anyone think of a good city builder with heavy cyberpunk themes? (not anno)

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Any small towns to share?

>>384000658

Love it, is that boston by any chance ?

>>384013331
Sim Cities Societies kinda but its absolute shit and the game that made me stop buying physical copies without reading up on them first online, they dont even handle cyberpunk well actually.

Sim City 4 with mods is basically the only other option, but they can look really fucking good, compared to the visual garbage that is Societies.

>>384002894
MS released a security patch a few years ago that cripples certain disk-based anti-piracy software. Either delete the patch or buy it again from steam.

>>384013472
No. As you can see it's not a horrible shithole like boston

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>>384013362

>>384013474
>Societies
already subjected myself to that, entirely agree. Guess I will try modding.

>>384013162
There's some pretty simple traffic mods that allow you to have a huge amount of control over the flow and rules of traffic.

Probably an AI fix for what you're describing though.

>>384012949
I know this isn't a Cities Skylines thread but how'd you get rid of all of the jaggies?

>>384012632
alright thanks

>>384013827
screenshot mode

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>>384013624
I meant ingame, but IRL is fine too

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Ok, so reinstalled SimCity 4, Installed NAM ran the game and I get this mess when using a road query tool.

Anyone knowns how fix for this bug?

>>384012949
Is the fog light effect in the original game, or is it from a mod? Looks gorgeous, one of the best I've seen, and on such a big scale

Why cant we have a modern day, isometric, sprite based city builder like Sim City 4, with highest resolution and crisp quality textures and sprites, improving on everything SC4 did visually and gameplay wise?

With NAM it's impossible to unlock the Great Train Station.

Having just ONE Train Station at its limit involves like several skyscrapers right next to it and no road connection to their workplace.

NAM fixes shit but also creates new problems.

>>384014480
I dreamed of having a good 3d Sim City for over a decade. I really really don't want them to go back to isometric before even doing one.

>>384014187
>Shittiest grid: The Town
Why American city planning sucks so hard? Are you literally obligated by law to make those shit-tier grids or what?

>>384014480
Sim City 4 was a labour of love
the ammount of props and sprite variations in the game take a big ammout of effort that today's developers really aren't willing to do because they're fags

>>384014850
give me 5 GOOD reasons why grids shouldn't be used from an efficiency standpoint

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>>384014850
>grids
>bad

>>384009625
>Engine designed to scale well with lots of CPU cores and GPUs
DELID DIS

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>>384014850
>i hate seeing the sky

>>384014936
So long as its easy to mod, modders will fill in the rest and make it even better, as it was with Cim Sity For

>>384015018
Because grids are not effcient by default? Basic geometry, you stupid idiot. In a square, where corners are labelled A, B, C and D, the shortest way from A to C or B to D leads in straight, diagonal line, not by going A to B and B to C .
Dunno, they don't teach math either in States?

So in SC4, do I make an area of only houses and another of only industry and connect them with roads?

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Ancient. I hate that I lost 70 GBs of mods. Now all of my trees are boxes.

>>384015184
Its not the winding street thata the problem there its the giant fucking skyscraper blocking the view, in such a small town theres no problem like that, nice cherrypicked image kys

>>384015270
>give me 5 GOOD reasons
>gives 1
Sounds like you're the one that needs a math lesson, pal.

>>384015246
Cities Skylines has good mod support, yet it's still lackluster.
Mod are a meme and not every game is an elder scrolls game with Hundreads of Thousands of people making mods and gives devs an excuse not to fucking work at all.

>>384015386
Modding SC4 with all those dependencies requiring other dependencies was such a pain in the ass

in simcity do the parks need to touch the roads?

>>384015412
You're the same meming autist (all 10 of you are the same person) that scrolls through every city thread looking for grids to cry about. STFU

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>>384015293
It's the easy solution, yes. That would lead to massive transit though and clog up your streets eventually.

There are also more complex ways to build a city, with various little manufacturing buildings / high tech industry sprinkled across living areas.
A 3x3 industry building can have between 50/250 jobs and when its inside a living area the people living closeby will walk to their job instead of clogging the street with cars.

Scattering them across a living area will create tons of jobs but with little to no additional cars on the street.

Just make sure it's not dirty industry. Those make your town shitty.

>>384015685
>he UNIRONICALLY likes GRIDS

>>384015270
>not loving roundabout

>>384015764
How do I make sure that doesn't happen?

>>384015018
Most European cities are AT LEAST 500 years old so they weren't really designed.

This isn't a bad thing though. Look at LA: made for a 70s car culture that doesn't exist anymore.

In the future cities will be ever denser and more mixed.

i have a friend who unironically thinks the latest Sim City is the best city building game out there and the other ones are not very deep or complex
also he's an actual autist

>>384015992
Taxes.

>>384015480
>give me 5 GOOD reasons
>gives 1

give me 20 reasons why his one reason isn't enough to prove you wrong

>>384015480
This is the one that basically renders grid pointless by default, since everything else will stream from it.

>>384015921
Never said that.
But they get a bit pointless too if you just have 4 roads crossing at 90 degrees. Not utterly redundant, but far from their full practical capabilities.

>>384016132
This, too, but even if you take into account the "designed vs natural expansion", you still end up with situation when you do NOT design grid. Kind of reminds me of the plae I've spend my childhood. It was a series of commie blocks, but there was no grid in design of it. Still excellent communication and spread of services, while in the same time designed with care and to create a nice looking neighbourhood.
Compared with your typical American suburb, with just rows after rows of houses in straight lines, it makes you wonder why burgers keep joking about commie blocks.
Envy, maybe?

>still no city building game with actual roundabouts with real roundabout rules

every fucking game you make a roundabout and the cars stop in it to let other cars in.... SHIT DONT WORK LIKE THAT FFS

>>384016857
This.

It annoys me to no fucking end in C:S. What's the fucking point of roundabouts, if they work just like regular crossing, but with a bit bigger capacity?!

>>384016786
>But they get a bit pointless too if you just have 4 roads crossing at 90 degrees

nope, the great thing about roundabouts is the traffic is always moving, we have a city in portugal with retarded amounts of roundabouts and the fact is they simply work, even during rush hour the traffic is always moving, shit's efficient as fuck, every city around here is adopting more and more roundabouts and you see a gigantic difference.

merging and yielding rules might be different in the states but with the rules we have here the roundabouts are the best way of keeping the traffic always flowing.

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>>384000140
>>384009391
>>384009952
>>384010192
>Play City Skylines
>Build a city with 100,000 people
>Build a wind turbine out in the ocean and get up to go take a piss
>Come back to see that my city is in ruins and i'm -20,000 in the hole because i accidentally deleted a power line
>Can't take out a loan to repair it because i already had all loans taken out and there weren't any autosaves
>Have to reload a save and lose over an hour and a half of progress

having setbacks like this in the game just ruins any fun you could manage to build up because out of that hour i'd bet my left nut that half of it was waiting for more cash to build shit. This game isn't a city builder, it's a patience builder.

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rate my city

>>384017551
go away

>>384017223
I'm not saying they are not going to work. But when you have a 4-way crossing, you can often just build 4-way crossing instead of roundabout. Cheaper and smaller, which is often the priority over functionality.
Which is in fact the reason why there are barely any roundabouts in States - they just build 4-way crossings, since they are already stuck with grid.
Which they perpetuate for god knows what reason. Looks bad, doesn't work, isn't exactly cheaper, too.

>>383999736
>it's literally perfect
I don't like that you need to connect to nearby sectors to make truly great city

>>384017551
wrong thread/10

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Ok I installed the game and a modpack someone linked here. I'll watch tutorial on youtube this evening

What things do you have to manage/keep track of in Simcity 4 that you don't have to in Skylines?

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Great game, but could not be asked to ever play it again, had way to many mods back in the day

recently got a ryzen 1600, wonder if city skylines benefits from this over my old 8350.

brb, installing that shit

>>384000449
>>384000521

Is this still Simcity 4? If so, downloading at the speed of 300kb/s.

>>384018094
why do you have Sauron in the middle of the river?

>>384018190
of course

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>>384010202
>>384004343
>>384003825
Netherlands here

Get on our level.

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The UI is shit.

>>384000140
The best 2D stomps all over good 3D. Switching to 3D was an inevitable development but bad for city-builders.

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>>384018403

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Steam reviews say that Simcity 4 crashes a lot. Is it just dipshit kids being tards or does it actually crash a lot? If it does crash a lot, are there any fixes?

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>>384018403
But the roads there are just random hodge-podge. Who cares if the bastion fortress is a bastion fortress?
Also, get on this level of planned city AND a fortress

>>384018193
i built it in 2004 and was still hyped!

>>384019039
Wait... is the one "star" of the fort turned into a stadium?!