I've only just now played through Dark Souls 3, and I've

>>383994875
why are you playing the series in backwards order you stupid NIGGER

if you wanted to play the 3rd you should have started with the first, and then the second, and then the third.

and better yet, started with Demon's Souls.

fuck off retard

>>383994875

Dark Souls 3 is a bad game. It fully embraces the "this is dark souls, prepare to die" mentality. The first is the only good one.

Definetly it's the original masterpiece. And the og ds also has a less linear story than ds3. And in my opinion ds is the best of the 3 ds games.

>>383994875
DS1 is the best so do yourself a favor and play it now

>>383994875
>Although is it worth going back to playing the original DS?
Are you retarded?

DS1 is the best one you goon

>>383994875
Absolutely. You should have skipped DS2 and played DaS since DS2 is mediocre compared to the others.

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>>383994875
What the fuck are you doing with your order of play.

The answer to your question though is yes, of course. Remember to look up DSfix if you're playing on pc.

>>383997379
DSfix is a hackjob that fucks up collision and makes you fall through the world as well as introduces pathing problems.

I get it, 30 fps is fucking shitty, but honestly the game was actually made to be 30 fps, like Demon's Souls. Still great games at 30, why insert a shitty hackjob?

>>383997635
>Why play the game at better framerate?
I've never fell through the floor you're just retarded

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>>383997635
You're definitely making a mountain out of a molehill there, the issues with unlocked fps are very specific and few and far between, I have never once fallen through the world or had pathing problems during hundreds of hours of play. Unlocking fps is purely optional, and you can lock the game to 30 fps and unlock it at any point with a single key press.

Unlocking fps is also not the only point of DSfix, it allows you to control rendering resolution and scaling, antialiasing and SSAO solutions, interface opacity, enables dumping and overriding textures amongst many other things.

Not sure why you would wittingly omit all that information from your post, do you have some agenda against DSfix or what?
More importantly, why would want anyone to not experience the game in the best way possible?

>>383998414
>why NOT fuck up AI, movement, collision, and geometry interactions?!

Try sliding down a ladder, or stepping up the many small inclines/steps in the game.


>>383998465
The PC version is already the best way possible, as the developers saw fit. Especially now that GFWL is gone. I will concede that DSfix can be useful for supersampling. SSAO looks like shit in the game.

Dumping and overriding textures is cheating.

The game was wildly praised and beloved, even on the shitty 360 and ps3 versions, where the framerates would literally dip into single digits. Hacking in 60 fps for >le masterrace at the cost of game stability is just stupid.

>>383994875

>is it worth going back to playing the original DS?

Nah, you've already revealed your shit taste by saying Dark Souls 2 is "great," so you probably won't enjoy the original. Have you tried Witcher 3 or Bamham though? :)

>>383998597
Why all the hate and negativity? ANYTHING DSfix allows you to do is optional, and if you're willing to admit having control over rendering resolution is a good thing it's just clear you have some unreasonable hatred against DSfix.

Not sure why anyone wanting prettier textures or higher quality UI would be cheating or a bad thing.
Seriously, this is quite weird, what's your issue anon?

>>383998597
It seems like you're the only one with collision fuck ups etc, I played through multiple times on 360 and on PC with dsfix and never had an issue

I bought all 3 games on steam sale last summer, and I'm so glad I played them in the right order. Why would you play them starting from 3??

As long as you have good taste you will overcome the

>WOW le prepare to le die XDDDD le difficulty epic dark souls game design XDD

Dark souls 1 is a masterpiece, but your eyes will be clouded by the modern souls game memery for sure.

>>383999039
Had a friend buy Bloodborne and 3 first and he's trying to play Das2 with me and hates how clunky and floaty it feels compared to BB and 3, playing backwards really does ruin it

>>383998916
>>383998903
I'm just going to have to chalk this up to your ignorance of when you're encountering collision/movement issues. The area full of tree branches you have to walk up is a great area to see how 60 fps fucks up movement because you have to roll over them or just keep trying to walk into a small bump until your character finally goes over it as they should.

I've seen this documented in many challenge runs/speed runs.

Also, I shouldn't need to explain why decompiling and recompiling the games assets is cheating.

>>383999138
That's because BB and 3 are so comically fast it's like watching the Benny Hill chase sequence in comparison.

>>383999146

Ok, I've read your points 5 times, now answer the question, what's your problem? Is there something that seriously bugs you about DSfix (a mod that is OVERWHELMINGLY acclaimed and used by the entire PC souls community)

It's like you're holding on to some twisted ideal of purity for a PC videogame, it's like you consider DSfix and its OPTIONAL features as something dirty that you shouldn't even consider. But it's all optional, you're mentally ill

>>383994875
Yes. Dark Souls 1 isn't the best in the series, but it's a great game nonetheless.

>>383999146
Then just don't unlock the fps and use DSfix purely for AA and resolution?
Again, why do you have such a negative view of DSfix? What is your issue?

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>>383998597
300 hours in das with DSfix and as far as im aware theres only one ladder in the entire game that has a high chance of you falling through the world. Running animations look slightly odd and there is minor collision with inclines. I like how you neglect to mention that dsfix allows you to switch framerate back to 30fps with a keyboard shortcut to avoid these situations. You are also outright lying about it affecting the AI. get fucked kiddo.

>>383994875
The original is generally regarded as the best, so yes.

>>383994875
>all these threads about retards playing the series out of order

Please tell me it's all you and you're just shitposting.

>>383999146
You're just ignoring what they're saying at this point. DSfix is way more than just the ability to play at 60 FPS. You're not making any kind of coherent point here.

>>383999513
>>383999304

I do use it purely for supersampling. I called it a hackjob because that's literally exactly what it is. There's no reason to use the 60 fps unlock. There's no gameplay benefit, it only introduces quirks and bugs that never should have been there.

>>383999550
>implying changing movement and collision doesn't affect the AI

>>383999682
wow the only thing worse than a retard is a stubborn retard. Your concerns are minimal at best and no, changing movement and collision does not affect enemy AI considering there are no enemies placed in areas where this would have any sort of affect. What do you even mean by movement being changed? Do you even know what framerates are?

>>383995418
>play demon souls
>the game that has aged the worst

>>383999847
It seems you don't understand how when a game is designed for consoles, they often tie the games logic to the games framerate, because it's easier.

There are certain jumps you can only pull off on 30 fps because of the subtle movement changes that occur when hacking in 60 fps.

>>383999940
>aged the worst

>has the best lore, environments, characters, rpg elements, and near identical gameplay

really made me think.

let me guess, you're someone that thinks tendency is TOO HARD to manage, ablooablooabloo

>>384000007
i comopletely understand it, all those jumps you are referring to can be pulled off in 60fps they just require different timing. If you are referring to the one in anor londo that is literally a way to skip an area which is kind of counter to what you are arguing in general, then im not sure. Also still failing to acknowledge the fact that a keyboard shortcut can be used at any time to avoid these situations by switching the framerate back to 30. Your arguments are shit and your hatred of dsfix is quite frankly bizarre.

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Unlike OP, I am not a faggot and just finished DS and want to continue on to DS2. Does that game need a DSfix or the like as well? DSfix made it way better for me.

I remember reading something about lots of people being banned for using it in DS2 or something, what's that about?

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>>383999682
Back in your first post >>383997635 you call DSfix a hackjob and then proceed to try and make it sound like a negative thing whilst ignoring points against you. You even go as far as to ask "why insert a shitty hackjob?"
And now you admit that you use DSfix yourself.
Wew, that is some rank hypocrisy, and even worse is your clear intention of preventing a new player from having the best possible experience.

>>384000147
No, it doesn't need anything.

>>384000147
There is no DSfix required for 2, but the port is flawed even in SotFS, so weapon durability drains faster. Actually, I think they "fixed" it in SotFS by just making it drain faster on consoles too, lol.

>>383994875
Demon's and Dark 1 are the best Souls games
followed by Bloodborne, then DS3 and lastly DS2
So right now you're in the worst game of the series, if you enjoy even that then you'll have one hell of a ride with the other ones

>>384000179
It is LITERALLY a hackjob. By the very nature of what it is, and what it does, it's a hackjob. Is that hard to understand? It hijacks the game and tells it to run faster than it was EVER meant to.

>>384000147
Nah, it doesn't need anything. The vanilla (not SotFS) version of the game has equipment degradation tied to the framerate of the game, so on pc your weapon would break twice as fast at 60pfs. FROM ignored the problem and softbanned people that used an unofficial fix and even other mods, not sure if they do so anymore.

In any case, you're better off playing the SotFS version.

>>383995492
>>383995959
>Best.
>DkS1.
kek.
>Without contestation, the worst weapons and movesets out of all 5 games.
>Worst combat mechanic in history, poise, that rewards bad players, and causes the emphasis on spacing, timing, and punishing to degrade into autistic build min-maxing.
>Shit bosses compared to anything from DkS2 DLC, BB, DkS3.
>Most degenerate BSes and R1 spam infinites in the series, thanks to poise.
>Absolutely retarded design choices only found in DkS1, such as weapons having different attack speeds resulting in some weapons in a class having an infinite, while others can't even 2-hit.
>Absolutely retarded design choices only found in DkS1, such as weapons increasing in hit-stun as they're upgraded, meaning you can't actually see what the weapon is capable of until it's upgraded the whole way.
>Absolutely retarded design choices only found in DkS1, such as halberd-class weapons having retarded whiff animations, making your character spaz-out of his misses and make halberds useless.
>Piss-easy dogshit enemies that are completely helpless.
>Half the levels fucked up.
DkS1's only redeeming quality when compared to the other games is the world interconnection, but even that is marred by half the levels being half-done.

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>>384000203
>>384000265
>>384000384
Alright, sweet.

>>383999138
Thats because 2 is the slowest, clunkiest and floatiest of them all.

>>384000525
>extremely fast movement
>extremely slow everything else

who thought this would be a good idea?

>>383999682
>There's no gameplay benefit
arguably false because 30fps is garbage and looks shit

>>384000095
>if you don't like it that just means it's too hard for you!

Oh boy! I love this, keep going!

>>384000647
>looks shit
hm
>gameplay benefit
really made me think

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@384000490
Here's your (You)

>>384000690
>framerate is visual and not tied to gameplay

just leave

>>384000765
>game is created to be played at 30 fps throughout its entire development cycle
>hack in 60 fps
>looks better, must be better!

>>384000490
Way to spot the shitter who can't even toggle out of stunlock. Crying that r1 spam and poise are broken when he doesn't know anything.

>>384000723
>Literally zero arguments.
As expected. Dark Souls 1 has terrible combat, bosses, enemies, a bunch of shitty levels and competes with Dark Souls 2 for the worst gameplay easily. I say this as someone who knows more about Dark Souls 1 than anyone here.

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>>384000690
>the game literally running smoother and being more pleasing to the eye (not 30fps), as well as the added frames for more detail and information being recieved each second
>not a gameplay benefit
at least be merely pretending

>>384000858
>game runs at 30 fps
>game is """""hacked""""" to run at 60fps
>objectively better

just give up loser.

>>384000882
I literally invented toggle in Demon's Souls and made the first Dark Souls video about it.

>>384000962
Then why are you crying about infinites, wich are a non-issue?

>>384001142
Because a glitch that gives an out doesn't excuse shit game design, especially when you take into account how PvE.

>>383994875
I think it's worth it playing 1 even if you played 3, for the sake of knowing how it is, and why people might prefer it to all the others.

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>>383998597
>Dumping and overriding textures is cheating.

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>>384001731
It's just custom skins!

3 and 2 are fucking garbage compared to DS1.

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>>384001783
wow what a great example to counter his point

>>383994875
DaS has this absolutely raw spirit about it that makes it head and shoulders above any other souls or soulslike game. It's one of the only games of it's time to still retain some obtuse and confusing mechanics, which is something I think gaming is coming back around too, after decades of streamlining.
There's not a single bad souls game, and I definitely recommend you to try DeS if you can get your hands on a PS3, because that's a wonderful game too, and it helps explain a lot of the thinking that goes into DS2 and DS3 in terms of consumables and level design.
I've not played BB yet, but I definitely trust the general /v/ opinion on it being very very good, so I'm sure it's worth getting around too.
Make sure you're playing Dark Souls 2, not Dark Souls 2: Scholar's of the First Sin. I've played through both versions and SOTFS is so full of shit I really think it could sour someone on the souls series
>>383999940
DaS2 without SOTFS is easily the worst aged game. It's better then SOTFS for sure, but graphically, mechanically, and thematically, it's pretty fucking shoddy

>>384001894
DaS has objectively less spirit and raw passion than Demon's Souls. The second half also has some extremely shitty/unfinished parts.

I absolutely LOVE the game, but it's not the best.

Also, why recommend non sotfs? He'll be alone, and SotFS is actually completely fine, and in some ways more difficult. If you have the money or can find them cheap, play normal DaS2 and then SotFS though, because why not play a great game twice with some tweaks?

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Post yours, /v/

Why are you people so autistic about the order he plays the games in like holy shit who cares tons of peoples first DS game was DS3.

>>384002209
>t. 14 year old console gamer posting on /v/ during summer vacation

>>384002079
demons souls is shit m8

>>384002209
They kind of get worse as they go along. Lore/setting aside anyways.

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>>384002159
Don't ask me what the fuck happened I have no idea.

>>384002278
Is everyone who disagrees with you a 14 year old summer poster?

Also the Summer theory was disproven a long time ago fampai

>>384002392
Where's that screenshot from, Oolacile?

Do not listen to these retards ITT
Play in whatever order you want since the story doesn't matter
Don't forget to get DSFix when you get to Dark Souls 1

>>384002079
I can understand your thinking on DeS, but I just don't think they quite had the world down yet, and there's obviously some concepts that just don't work too. I think it's just too much of a "Fantasy" game to take the throne.
I admittedly don't like DaS 2, I think they bought into the "HARDEST GAME EVER" bullshit way too much. Of course a lot of that is due to the community exploding and a lot of the newcomers misunderstanding that some wierd mechanics and a very lowkey storytelling method were what formed the fanbase, not this bullshit about difficulty, when anyone that's been around the whole series can tell you that souls games are really not this obscenely hard group of games. They're complicated and interesting, and have a ton of depth and minute details.
Anyways, I think DaS 2 is built around this awful ego of difficulty, and a lot of that gets exacerbated by SOTFS. It's a lot smoother getting through DaS 2, and maybe going back for SOTFS if not completely turned off by DaS 2.

DaS>DaS3>DeS>DaS2>SOTFS
DaS3, because I really really like the clashing timelines and shit, plus the early PvP was pretty fun, and had a very friendly atmosphere. I haven't played the DLC yet because I want to make a run through all of the games again as a sort of final send off for the series

>>383994875
DaS is pretty much the best, DeS is pretty much prototype with few things that Souls series forgot later on, which is really unfortunate, because they were awesome (especially bosses, which weren't actually hard, but they were at least creative, you had to expose their weaknesses, etc.)

>>383994875
where is this screenshot taken?

>>384002392
>no achievements
huh?

>>384000095
>Calling DeS hard
Just recently I played this game, finished it in 15~ hours at first playthrough. Death count was 9, 5 due to gravity, 1 due to not looking at the screen for a moment and 3 times because i sucked. That's the easiest Souls game for sure. I died even more in DaS2.

>>384003560
Offline mode, probably

>>384003560
Like I said I don't know. The achievements got wiped somehow.

Unless you honestly think I'd play over 500 hours and never ring the bells of awakening.

>>384003636
I said tendency NIGGER. Can you fucking read?? You also actually can't talk about the actual difficulty of the levels themselves when you've already put many hours into the series because they all play essentially the same.

>>384003685
When I was replaying DaS1 I noticed I got no achievements as well.

>>384003685
>>384003640
>>384003560
The game used to be GFWL idiots, steamworks wasn't added til much later.

>>384003763
Dont use capital letters like that then, I consider these letters to be TL;DR version of your post

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>>384003447
Was wondering the same. Probably one of the pvp arena things.

>>384003685
What happens when you load an endgame save?

>>384003840
they all transferred over

>>384000490
>kek
Discarded
>Half the levels fucked up
There are fewer levels post anor londo than pre anor londo Demon's shitter

>>384003919
Not if you haven't played since the transition on your save file.

(Male) Fluted Set > DaS3 Knight Set > DaS1 Knight Set > Falconer Set > (Female) Fluted Set

Being a Knight in the Souls universe ain't easy but atleast you look good unless you're a Female Knight in Demon's Souls

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>>384002159

>>383999940
>original trail blazer
>took lots of risks
>so influential it set most ofthe ground work for the successors

So what if its a little rough around the edges?