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>STILL NO POKÉMON GAME WITH DYNAMIC DIFFICULTY At least

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>STILL NO POKÉMON GAME WITH DYNAMIC DIFFICULTY

At least make the gym leaders/rivals/elite 4 the only ones who can scale with you.
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>>383974913
HCHAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

UAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HUMPH
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Would you expect a Barbie game to have sophisticated difficulty settings? how about a hot wheels game? Pokemon is for children, and you can't expect any more from it
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>>383974913
>At least make the gym leaders/rivals/elite 4 the only ones who can scale with you.

That's actually a great way to make the game better
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Just hack it man
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>>383974913
That was one of the best videos to come out this decade.
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>Gym leaders only have three pokemon max
>Elite four and rival only have 4

What's with that bullshit.
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>>383977131
>blaze black

Come on...
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>>383974913
It's almost like Pokemon is designed for kids or something
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Pokemon has an immense potential for a player to create their own difficulty without the need for a game setting telling you that it's harder.
Do you play on Switch mode? Change to Set.
Do you play with Experience Share active? Turn it off.
Do you use items in battle? Stop doing that.

With these small changes, none of which drastically effected core gameplay and none of which forced me to grind, Moon changed from something mindless into a fun challenge that had me putting thought into my team and utilizing moves outside of damage-dealing.
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>mfw all my friends that complain about Pokemon's "easy difficulty" play on Switch instead of Set, use max EV/IV pokemon and one-shot Totem Pokemon with Z-moves
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>>383981080
Switch mode being the default was a mistake.
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>>383981174
Z-moves were a massive mistake. Totem bosses were ludicrously fun but too many retards one-shot them with Z-moves.

Wishiwashi calling an Alomamola for HP and status healing, Salazzle and Salandit doing Toxic/ Venoshock or Lurantis doing sick solar combos with Castform were great.
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>>383974913
But that's a great idea and Nintendo doesn't seem to want those.
I think there is a point where we have to admit the Pokemon games are for younger audiences and aren't going to grow with us. Sun and Moon were the easiest games in the series yet.
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>>383981867
>Sun and Moon were the easiest games in the series yet

U wot m8

Gen 6 was literally like 2-3 years ago

And Gen 5 is literally artificial difficulty with EXP being relegated to those stupid Chansey clones, Gen 4 had a nice difficulty level
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>>383975090
WHY
WON'T
YOU
DIE?!~
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>>383974913
I say it all the time and I always get shit for it, but I want a pokemon game with adult themes and actual stakes
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Personally I've been working on something like this. Been developing a pkmn game for a few years that has varying difficulties. You can only use a set number of mon during gym battles; Similar to the show.
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What the fuck does "dynamic" mean?
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>>383974913
>level scaling
go back to skyrim, pussy
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>>383974913
>Pokemon
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>>383982643
changes depending on a factor. you could have just googled this.
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>>383982830
Couldn't the same be said about all video games?
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>>383975090
>>383979770
So kids games can't be extremely difficult? Back in the day there were "kids games" that most adults couldn't beat today if they tried. Shit, even if you two retards are underage, ever hear of two little children's games called Spongebob Boat-o-cross or Winnie the Pooh Home Run Derby? Those are kids games. Why dont you daft shitheads go play those really quick then get back to me after youve beat them.

Faggots.
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>>383982694
>not go back to oblivion
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>>383982912
What did a reference to OP's image have to do with that?
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>>383982893
That's some mighty defensive projection you got goin' on there, furfag.
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>>383982643
read a fucking dictionary
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>>383982031
Sun and Moon are gen 7 though. I never played X or Y but the gen 3 remakes seemed average in terms of difficulty.
Gen 7 had that bs mechanic of holding your hand during battle.
>fighting elite 4
>active Pokemon is half health and will die from next attack
>Pokemon survives with 1hp to not disappoint the trainer
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>>383982912
Meant for
>>383975171

>>383982965
Hmmm... Might have something to do with the post right under it... I don't know though...
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>>383974913
Play romhacks if you want to get fucking annihilated by stupid bullsit
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>>383982893
Your mind is as empty as your soul! Mankind ill needs a savior such as you!
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>>383982998
What
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>>383977131
>those autistic as fuck names

no, thanks
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>>383983094
Go to sleep anon, you're too tired to pay attention who you're even talking to.
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>>383983254
Did you just assume my time zone you double nigger?
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>>383983147
>fucking up that quote with one word

You have one job pal
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>>383979289
The cover legendaries from black and white have the abilities turboblaze and terravolt. that's where the name comes from.
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>>383983340
This is an American site, no?
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>>383983190
how are these in any way autistic
it's just the legendary abilities and the original game name
it's a great fanhack too, considering all it does is change the difficulty and there's no cringe story changes or fakemons
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>>383980932
Ive always been autistic about not using items in any rpg and it generally makes them all alot more fun
They should also remove switch mode from pokemon imo it makes the game a cakewalk more than anything
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>>383983393

they could have called them turbo black and terra white. rom hacks are dogshit anyway
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>>383974913
>wanting level scaling
Get the fuck out of here.
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>>383974913
Level scaling is bad and you should feel bad for suggesting it
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>>383983612
not even that anon but
> rom hacks are dogshit anyway
you take that back and leave right now
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>>383983437
Yes and I'm an American. What does that have to do with timezones?
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>>383974913
just download one of the numerous romhacks that increase the difficulty and are either balanced around having/not having the exp share
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>>383983530
I'll direct you to
>>383983612
since I agree with him.
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>>383975171
Please, tell me what hardcore adult RPGs you play with more sophisticated gameplay.
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>>383983749
You just now confirmed the fact that its late for you. Ya dingus.
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>>383983908
Mario and Luigi
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>>383983612
These ones aren't bad. They are just increased difficulty and 649 hacks.
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>>383983672
>>383983696
>>383982694
I don't think level scaling would be the right word for it, but would it be interesting if the games allowed you to challenge some gym leaders in any order sort of like in Kanto but as you beat each of them, all of the others get a level boost? You still get the good feeling from leveling your own Pokemon to eventually become stronger than opponents, but you're also given a challenge that increases as you progress.
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>>383984029
there's a rom hack for fire red which i think is called reverse red where you start off in pallet town but go south to cinnbar island and as the name suggests do the game in reverse order
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>>383983581
I still don't know what they were thinking with including Switch mode in the first place, especially making it default. After playing against a human or even against postgame AI, Switch feels like blatant cheating.
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>>383983947
>2pm is late
Also,
>Americans can't leave the US

This is really embarrassing for you, "dingus." Also you forgot about Hawaii. Even more embarrassing.
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>>383980932
>immense potential
It has the same potenital as any other game
You can always gimp yourself to make it harder
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Pokemon is such a stale format for a turn based game.

I think I fire-wheeled the entire way through silver. How the fuck is that challenging?
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>>383984193
Yea it makes the few npc's(mostly late game gym leaders or elite 4) that have any sort of type coverage a complete joke if you arent retarded
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>>383984132
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=282335

here it is
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>>383984231
>lying just to one up some random person

Whatever you say cuz.
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>>383974913
>HURRRR WHAT ARE THE BATTLE FRONTIERS?

DURRRR POKEMON WORLD TOURNAMENT? WHATS THAT?

UHHHH BATTLE TREE? I DUNNO LOL!

Why do people who don't play Pokemon games try to talk about the series?
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>>383984350
This is fucking cool, thank you for sharing
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>>383984335
Thats what OP wants, a game mode that doesnt let you rofl stomp through it with an overleveled starter
I usually play the hardmode+catch em all romhacks and most of them are pretty decent on difficulty except for this one emerald one I played that had a huge gap between wild pokemon in a given area and the trainer pokemon. It made it near impossible to make any roster changes beyond mauville
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>>383984425
I accept your defeat. Next time, be more humble, brainlet.
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>>383984519
While battle frontier had some rad things going for it alot of those places legitimately cheat with broken rng
The amount of runs Ive had ended by sheer cold spamming walrien or an equivalent is massive
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>>383984519
most people stopped playing them before they hit 13, the ones who continued are furfags and manchildren.
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>People complain about difficulty
>They don't finish the battle maison
Really makes you think
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>>383984701
>Why doesn't Pokemon do this
Actually it does
>DUHHHH ONLY FURFAGS AND MANCHILDREN PLAY THEM WHO CARES
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>>383984726
They didn't finished stadium 2 round 2 with only rentals too, bunch of faggots.
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Have you heard of the high elves?
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>>383984726
Its amazing how /v/ at once complains that Pokemon is too easy while ignoring any modes that are actually challenging and completely ignoring online multiplayer. But then, the people who whine about this stuff don't actually play the games.
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>>383984768
Hey, you dropped this.
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>>383984885
How is any of what I said damage control? Do you even speak English?
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>>383984568
Could you be any more autistic?
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>>383984967
Please stop the salt production, our wall is now broken.
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One of the things that irks me about Pokemon is that only something like 5-10 are viable per game if you want the absolute best Pokemon. I'd rather all Pokemon be viable but "lesser" Pokemon with great stats are harder to find.
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Friendly reminder that Dark Rising, the best GBA romhack, has all story trainers level with you. You literally can't overlevel
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>>383985239
That's retarded, you can literally beat any Pokemon game with anything you want, and there are far more than 5-10 viable things per game unless you're playing Gen 1-2 exclusively.
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>>383985239
didnt someguy whip everyones ass at some tournament with a pachirisu
Pro football guy whipped all of /vp/'s ass at pokemon with a karenfag team to if I remembert
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>>383974913
>he wants more scaling in RPGs

Go away and stop ruining games please.
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>>383985401
brennan williams was his name iirc
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>>383985487
scaling is good if done right. what's the point of a boss if you can overlevel it and kill it with no risk of failure whatsoever? on the other hand, if regular mobs scale with your level, you never get the feeling that your character is advancing at all. Scaling should be done for bosses/significant, major encounters only.
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>>383985383
I worded my statements poorly.

What I meant was if you want to play online against other players you generally have to use top tier Pokemon or you are fucked. Obviously I can beat the main game with random shit if I level the fuck out of them. I'm not doing shit in the end game with Garbador or pic related.
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>>383974913
>STILL NO MOBILE POKEMON RPG WITH ALL ESTABLISHED REGIONS/MONS WITH BLUETOOTH TRADING
Gee, it's sort of like a last resort to Nintendo
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>>383985557
Name one RPG with scaling "done right".
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>>383985579
You should try different formats, like doubles. Lots of stuff that might not be viable in singles can work really well, such as utilizing Trick Room and Gravity.
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>>383985401
>>383985516
Brennan Williams is now a WWE wrestler who is assigned to their NXT developmental territory although he has yet to make an official TV debut. He is known as The Great Black Otaku.
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>>383985805
thats fucking amazing
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>>383985579
This is what different tiers are for. Besides, Galvantula has a niche with Sticky Web. He can comfortably be used in lower tiers against human players and AI will rarely carry Rapid Spin to clear the webs.
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>>383985579
Galvantula is really fucking good though.
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>>383974913
>a game that children can beat is too hard for me
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>>383985579
just play LU or lower formats
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>>383986002
I hate being blocked into a corner and forced to pick high tier characters. I ted to enjoy games where the tiers are close or there is a plethora of options near the top.
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>>383986060
No anon, he means he wants it to be MORE difficult.
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>>383986080
You don't understand how tiers work on Showdown, do you?
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>>383984967
>>383984885
>>383984768
>>383984519
>>383985046
This is the most "I know you are but what am I" argument I've ever seen on this board, I'm impressed
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>>383986060
Imagine being this retarded.
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>>383985557
more often than not scaling breaks immersion in rpgs (spawning level 1000 bandits with the best armor in the game like in oblivion) and removes any sense of progression or reason to get better gear when the world will simply scale to you.

it's a far lesser evil to risk being overleveled and it can be bypassed by adding a lot of hard encounters before bosses that lock you temporarily from certain areas until you feel confident enough.
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>>383986157
Probably not. I'm speaking of tiers in terms of "These Pokemon have better base stats than all the other Pokemon so they are by default the better choice."
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>>383986126
That sounds retarded.
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>>383986080
The only place you have to do that is in a highly competitive OU environment.
What, do you want Butterfree to be similar in stature to Tyranitar? You want them to butcher the natural progression of monster strength in the main game for the sake of more PvP options?
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>>383986242
Team composition, movesets, and playing intelligently can beat stats.
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>>383986248
So do you LMAO
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>>383986228
Games just have to find a way to make grinding extremely time consuming to make it an unappealing option.
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>>383980932
>turn off EXP share
yeah, because grinding is so fucking difficult and fun, anon. I just loved the Emerald days when I got 3 EXP for each battle and every pokemon needed 5000 EXP to level up.
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>>383986297
Obviously if someone doesn't know how to play the game they'll lose but to put it in Smash terms, someone using a Fox will most likely beat someone using a Bowser or a DK. The amount of skill needed to overcome the statistical disadvantages is immense.
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>>383986248
Pokemon was never hard and it never will be.
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>>383986442
That's not true and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the games.
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>>383986439
You missed the part where I said I didn't grind. I was a good 10 levels below the competition by the end of Moon, but I got through it with a strong team composition and status moves.
Grinding in the vast majority of modern RPGs is a fail-safe and should not be your go-to strategy to overcome challenges.
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>>383986297
Until those stats also have good teams, movesets and are playing intelligently
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>>383986552
So in other words, you lose if you get outplayed.
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>>383983043
>Gen 7 had that bs mechanic of holding your hand during battle.

That was an XY mechanic, brought over to SM
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>>383983043
>gen 3 remakes
>average in difficulty
The remakes were DEFINITELY easier than the originals. I played Emerald first via CFW'd 3DS and then played Omega Ruby afterwards. The only thing that made Emerald slightly challenging was the grind, which isn't really difficult but rather just retarded gameplay padding.
Pokemon needs smarter AI, not bullshit like moar grind or just setting the battle settings to Set to give your opponent a free hit on you before you switch out your mon. The fact that removing the grind via Exp Share really demonstrates that the only thing that made the previous games "hard" was artificial difficulty rather than the opponent's strength and strategies.
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>>383986550
thats honestly my pet peeve about rpg discussion is when people try to pull the "lol games not hard you just need to grind for 6 hours" instead of actually learning how to play
its especially bad in certain FF titles
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>RNG
>Powercreep
>How much of a hardon gamefreak has for certain pokemon
>How much of a hateboner gamefreak has for certain types
I want to enjoy pokemon pokemon on a competitive level but these things hurt so much.
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>>383986725
>emerald
>needing grinding
maybe for wallace or juan since both of them are ball busters if you arent ready but even then its not bad at all maybe 5~ levels on a handful of pokemon
The gen 3 games are really good about giving you good options for type advantages
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>>383986869
hello friend :^)
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>>383986958
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>383986646
The type advantage thing? No it wasn't.
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