>bossfight >3 mobs spawn in >high poise >2100 health

git gud

git gud

git gud

JUST

le git gud reddit meme ecks dee
dark souls 2 is an underrated gem :^)
im not a hipster contrarian, everyone who has played the game would know it's the best in the series unless they weren't gud!!!

>>383967672
>>383967732
>>383967758
>>383967818
>t. 60 vitality and summons player phantoms

Guddo gutto ok?

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>legit criticisms
>tryhard DaS2babbies spam stupid reddit-tier memes in defense

What did they mean by this?

>>383967615
Legitimately git gud.
>Learn what each mob does, prioritize.
>You'll never be fighting 6 unless you flat out refuse to get the friendly Knights and you suck ass, let alone 12
>Getting said Knights takes you through areas entirely inaccessible during the first walk, very much not the same level
>DaS2 DLCs are meant for end-game content, meaning you either have strong enough weapons to make stagger not matter or you're good enough to DODGE
Old Ivory is quite literally the easiest of the DLC end bosses, assuming you learn the mechanics (Kill priority, fighting on portals) and don't suck ass.

>>383967672
Dark Souls is my favourite game, but I hate this meme because it's used to deflect any criticism and is used to make them feel 'superior' as gamers

>>383968587
>Learn what each mob does, prioritize.
I already addressed this, three literally charge at you from the other side of the room and can attack you through the enemy you're focusing on. The other sits behind them and throws spells that can bend almost 90 degrees in air to hit you
>You'll never be fighting 6 unless you flat out refuse to get the friendly Knights and you suck ass, let alone 12
A said you only fight 6 at a time at most and the friendly knights hardly do shit other than sit there with their shields up, they don't even divide up their aggro as the mobs mostly just ignore them
>Getting said Knights takes you through areas entirely inaccessible during the first walk, very much not the same level
50% of the level is barred off the first time you go through it for absolutely zero reason other than to pad the DLC out
>DaS2 DLCs are meant for end-game content, meaning you either have strong enough weapons to make stagger not matter or you're good enough to DODGE
Already addressed this too. Only Strength weapons have enough stagger power to deal with the mobs. +10 great scythe hardly does anything and you can't even power stance halberds and reapers. Dodging doesn't matter if 2 enemies are charging at you from opposite sides of the screen while you're focused on slowly chipping down and dodging another

>Old Ivory is quite literally the easiest of the DLC end bosses, assuming you learn the mechanics (Kill priority, fighting on portals) and don't suck ass.
You're a literal homo and a retard

>>383968513
It means games shouldn't be given PC ports.

PCbros ruin everything they touch.

>>383969373
>I already addressed this, three literally charge at you from the other side of the room and can attack you through the enemy you're focusing on. The other sits behind them and throws spells that can bend almost 90 degrees in air to hit you
Then kill the caster and dodge the melee. Literally RPG 101
>Friendly Knights hardly do shit
Focus the Caster, do not hit the Melee. Melee will peel off when they're hit by one of the Friendlies, use that to space them out.
>Pad the DLC out
This is a tactic used by numerous games (Including the first fucking Dark Souls) for base game levels, which are sometimes even shorter than Ivory King
>Relying on stagger
>Using a Great Scythe
>Trying to power stance with a fucking Great Scythe
M80 you already fucked up, not just with the Ivory King.
>Trying to imply that Ivory is harder than Sinh and Fume "My Sword is Bigger than your Body" Knight
Just stop.

>Ivory King
>not just the Persurer 0.5
Really man

>>383970416
>Trying to imply that Ivory is harder than Sinh and Fume "My Sword is Bigger than your Body" Knight
These 2 are objectively easier because I'm actually good at dodging and I don't have to waste my life fighting multiple high health mobs at the same time. You just proved to me you summon for every fight because both Sinh and Fume clearly telegraph their moves and are only a challenge when they randomly select one of multiple players to attack making their moves less predictable. You are literally a shitter and a faggot for pretending you're better than anyone

>implying any of the souls games have actually difficult bosses
>implying they're not all in BB
lmaoing at you PCfags.

>>383971313
>Sinh
Surprisingly agile, with his larger aerial attacks being difficult to dodge if stuck too close.
>Fume
Try fighting him without light rolls. I fucking dare you.
>>383971467
But BB bosses are even easier, why do you think DaS3 had so many underwhelming ones?

ITT: OP refuses to admit to himself he's garbage

>>383969373
>+10 great scythe
well that explains it

>>383971621
>implying all Souls bosses can't just be beaten by rolling away
Bloodborne actually requires you to have decent reflexes and manage blood vials.

>>383967964
Not them but my first time beating Ivory all I used was the Loyce Knights the fight came with. They worked fine for the most part.

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>>383971840
>Instant I-Frame dodge against massively telegraphed attacks
>Auto-20 Flask with instant use, and easy health recovery after damage
The only game more about Dodge-Hit-Dodge is fucking Witcher 3.

>>383972086
>implying dark souls rolls don't give you infinitely more i-frames
every boss in bloodborne is extremely aggressive and rarely give you the chance to even use vials. in Dark souls every single boss you can just use your roll and estus back to full before the boss even gets close to you.

>Playing Dark Souls
>Expecting a fair fight
The only answer is to become proficient

>>383972086
Name a single souls boss harder than Ludwig or Orphan.

>>383971621
>Try fighting him without light rolls. I fucking dare you.
Really? Might as well just say "try fighting him without a weapon. I fucking dare you" You can't blame me for sacrificing certain weapons, armor and ring slots just to be able to do something that isn't even gamebreaking or unintended. Go fuck yourself

>>383967615
Worst DLC Boss, Attacks is fucking poor

>>383967615
I would try to give you some sort of defense on Ivory King because it is a flawed DLC, but judging by your post you're just a shit player using a shitty build and I really just have nothing else to say.

>>383972646
Orphans the hardest in all Soulsborne, but I thought Gundyr and Demon Prince were harder then Ludwig.

>>383967964
I beat it at lvl with 1 with a lvl 7 broadsword i found because it was an agape account. git gud.

>>383972997
Why did you even bother wasting everyone's time by reading that if the summation of your post essentially equates to "hurr durr git gud"?

The only relevant thing you'll ever do is grace the world with your departure of it

>>383972864
If you're so good at dodging Fume, you should have literally 0 issues dodging Ivory. You're just a shitter who wants to have his edgy Great Scythe build (Which is an utterly horrendous weapon already) validated, except you're just not good.

>>383973143
>literally lying on the internet

What's the point even? Then again you probably camped in the corner and used player summons because you're obviously a twinking faggot that would do something like that

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>>383967615
Dark Soul 2 DLC is the best in the series, class design is fucking amazing, filled with countless organs, you can shoot with a bow and arrow, with a foot, with a stick inserted, it is fucking fun, there is also the largest The boss, the largest map, goes far beyond the old hunter and reused assets of the abyss

HONESTLY JUST GET GOOD WHY ARE THESE THREADS EVEN ALLOWED

>>383973647
I agree with your opinion that B team uses DLC to prove that they are far better than reusing assets of shit A team

>>383973557
>have no problems with Ivory. Have stated several times it's the mobs I have an issue with
>something something buzzwords buzzwords edgy retarded underage b&d
>pure dex build using an easily obtainable weapon with supposedly good weapon scaling and low weigh that used to be good means I'm edgy when I've mostly been using a +10 trident I was lucky enough to pick up early that's equally as ineffective and the game doesn't give you enough titanite chucks or twinkling titanite to upgrade much else to fuck with
>It's okay for a game to have pointless weapons and items in it

Who are you trying so hard to impress?

It was a memorable and interesting new twist on a boss.

Don't be a shitter because it was too hard for you.

>>383974027
Unless you're playing on 15 END or something you should run circles around those loyce knights.

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>>383967615
Still much better than nonsense

>>383974027
just use the stone ring and two hand the fucker

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>>383974027
>Having issues with the mobs
Wait. Hold the fuck up. I thought you were bitching because you couldn't beat Ivory after them. Are you actually complaining about to mobs with gigantic telegraphs, easy as fuck priorities, decent mechanics, slow movement, and really simple AI?
Because I can understand Ivory taking you after the Knights wear you a bit. That's natural. But complaining about the fucking Knights themselves?
Do you have some kind of deficiency?

>>383969228
It's pretty obnoxious
afro ruined the community

>>383974169
>7 VGR
>40 END
>6 VIT
>5 ATN
>25 STR
>50 DEX
>40 ADP
>8 INT
>5 FTH
>49.1% equip load

>Inb4 retards sperge over not minmaxing

>>383974350
I don't know, maybe if you actually took the whooping 30 seconds to read my complaints you'd understand instead of being some obnoxious little faggot that probably dick rides Fume Knight for being hard or an amazing fight despite the contrary

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>>383974498
>7 VGR
What the fuck. You have other stuff to buff health, right?

>>383974774
No. Based on your reaching I'm assuming most of you homos pump points VGR and have the audacity to call others scrubs

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>>383974498
>>383974696

So... you play Souls games on some kind of autistic instakill mode in order to validate your complaints with the difficulty... Good to know.

>>383974696
Half your complaints are about the boss and the friendly NPCs. Coupled with the fact that nobody really complains about the mobs (Given that they're typically easy to deal with) gives the impression that you're complaining about the fight as a whole.
>>383975042
VGR is HP you double nigger, you need HP to live. You can't go complaining about dying to stuff when you have starter level Health in an end-game fight.

Really dont know why you guys are humouring this kid.

>I have a problem with standard mobs

what the fuck even

>>383973363
I'm not sure, why did you decide to waste 20 or so peoples time with complaints about non-existent issues in this boss' design?
I mean surely you could have complained about actual bullshit design like the entire optional area and its optional boss. No though, I can see why mobs with easy to dodge and extremely telegraphed attacks are the real issue in this DLC.

>>383975254
>>383975309
So you just tank hits and pop healing items? Good to know who the real scrubs and shitters are

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>>383975483
There's being 'Gud' at Souls games.
And then there's being Autistic.
And then there's you, somewhere even further below that.

>>383968513
>legit criticisms
>ignores the part where you can stop the enemies from spawning by looking through the level
I don't even like DaS2 and even I know he's fucking retarded

>>383974498
Jesus christ even my mage character had more VGR than that, and I only added enough to survive one hit from most bosses

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OP in a nutshell in this thread right now
>W-what!? You're calling me shit?
>You definitely pump vigor, there's no way you can be good at this game without vigor!

>>383975641
I fret to wonder where you might lie then

>>383976021
I mean I'm pretty bad at Souls games but at least I don't have trouble with Ivory King's mooks.

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>>383974498
bait

This thread is a disaster on several levels, wow.

>>383976007
I'm having a hard time following your autism. Am I bad at the game for having a hard time with a shit boss or am I "autistic" for having low VGR? Making up your fucking mind already you fucking faggot

>>383976395
welcome to /vee/ bro

>>383976435
It isn't a shit boss, you just have a shit build.

ITT: DaS2fags throw a complete and utter conniption and having a total meltdown

>>383967615
My play through was a strength build with light glass cannon elements added into it (Took 2 or 3 hits to die, used 2hand Greatsword+10, maximized rolling potential, maximized speed). Even though physical strength was optimized to the fullest, this boss was still fucking difficult. idk why /v/ and other DaS2 fans praise this badly designed boss.
you also forgot to mention that the hitbox on his sword is 90% bullshit and you can still get hit even at the end of an attack.
on a side note, DaS3 Abyss Watchers was fucking amazing

>>383976541
>conniption
welp thats my new word for today, conniption.

>>383973117
Orphan is definitely not the hardest boss in all of Soulsborne.

>>383976514
Dedicating points into damage and dodging instead of health is a shit build? I thought you homos can't stop dicksucking this games supposed "build verity" as the end all be all? I've beaten the other games on base level health no problem but even at level 120 I somehow have a shit build just because I don't softcap VGR? Get fucked

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>>383976564
>idk why /v/ and other DaS2 fans praise this badly designed boss

No like, I just don't understand why you can't play the game like a normal human being. Why does everything need to still work during autistic shit like that. Literally no game with an upgradable health system is designed for that.

>>383976736
You must be some sort of 3rd worlder to have never heard that word before. What are you? Retarded?

>>383976885
second language bro comes after sign language.

>>383976992
Get the fuck off my board, 3rd world trash

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>>383967615
Based Ivory Kang is probably the best boss fight in the series m8.
Obscenely hard if you try to solo it but still..

>>383976862
>everything I don't like is autistic

Good argument

>>383977045
you wanna give yourself a pat on the back for that great little comeback, cuckboy?

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>>383977118
It objectively goes against the game's design to not upgrade health and you're expecting the game to still be enjoyable.

That's pretty fucking autistic.

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>>383976814
Yes. Putting absolutely no points into one of the major factors in keeping you alive is in fact a shit build. And there's plenty of build variety, it's just that most all of them are designed to not die in one hit.
You're complaining about a 'design issue' that you brought upon yourself indirectly through a personal challenge, and instead of realizing that your issue is byproduct of this challenge rather than the game itself, you're lashing out and making excuses for your own ineptitude at this fight. You have no grounds upon which to blame the game for this, as your complaint is your own fault.

>>383967615
I originally tried this boss at NG+++ (I had finished the game a few times already by the time the DLC was released) and hardly noticed anything outworldy hard about it. Then again, I was at SL 190..

I struggled a shitload more with Alonne and Blue Cheese Dorito than with BIK.

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>>383975641
>crying about not being able to handle easy as shit mooks during one of the easiest DLC boss fights in Souls history
>Good to know who the real scrubs and shitters are

>>383977220
If i dedicate points into damage than I should still be able to kill enemies before the're able to hit me. Instead, I drain a whole stamina bar into these faggots and still only take half their health, not giving me enough time to kill them all before the second wave comes. That is objectively shit game design

>>383977214
Then why even give me the option to not upgrade it? What's the point of making it a voluntary stat if I can't can just ignore it in favor of other stats?

>>383977175
Already did. It was pretty good

>>383976862
>>383977214
Why do you think health was the main reason i called this boss badly designed? I can happily dodge anything this game throws at me unless the hitboxes are fucked (like this boss). My 'strength' build, which prioritizes physical damage, only manages to chip a little off his health even with the strongest weapon and the best stats. Even if my build was magic (I tried using a few times, specifically for this boss), it still doesnt do much. Not only that, the lead-in to the boss by fighting several charred knights is just cheap. yes i got all the white knight guys on my side but i still think its bullshit.
Please dont think that i HAVE to put points into upgrading health. i fully understand the risk, i enjoy playing it that way and im not as bad as you

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>>383977676
>>383978004
>If i dedicate points into damage than I should still be able to kill enemies before the're able to hit me.
No, you shouldn't. That's an immature notion based upon unreal ideals that aren't present in Souls games. The fact that this is what you're basing your argument on proves just how flawed it is, as well as the reason why Soft Caps are a thing.
You can't just dump points into a damage stat and assume you can steamroll any encounter, especially a boss encounter and ESPECIALLY with a Great Scythe, which has poor Stamina to Damage in this situation.

>>383967615
This boss fight and that DLC in general was good because of the exploration element.

You had to traverse a transformed environment to save the ice loyce knights. Having them go into battle with you like that is actually a rare experience in souls. Usually you just summon phantoms to help you.

The knights sacrificing themselves to seal portals was also a nice touch.

Long story short, it's the overall experience that makes the DLC good.

The poison DLC is decent because of the platform raising, and the searching for the bodies of the ghost knights. The dragon fight was also decent.

The Iron King is probably the weakest.

>>383967615
Overall DaS2 is my least favorite Souls but this fight is one of the best in the series. So fucking cool. I shit my pants when I went through the fog and plummeted into hell, only for him to step out of the fiery gate.

>>383978140
>That's an immature notion based upon unreal ideals that aren't present in Souls games
Rolling is literally a huge part of Souls games.
and idk about the other anon but i dont think i ever mentioned a Great Scythe

>>383967615
Buy 99 lifegems
Use them instead of estus
Get a curved greatsword UGS or greathammer, use stone ring and stunlock them.
Ivory king himself is a meme.
>>383978231
FUCK YOU NIGGER IRON KING HAD THE BEST CHARACTERS

>>383978140
Then why even have stats at all? if upgrading STR and DEX only allow you to use certain weapons, then what's the point when you can just respec them anyways? Why not just give the player more limited upgrading items only allowing them to upgrade a limited amount of weapons? Why not just find a weapon with zero scaling that requires low stats to use it? Why even upgrade anything other than VGR, VIT, END, or ATN then?

Even with spears i had the same problem damaging enemies fast enough. Why even include them in the game if they're meant to be outclassed? Fuck me for assuming a halberd that was actually good in the first game might have actually been an alternative to what I was doing

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>>383978516
I'm seriously considering that glass cannon build in the meantime... but I'm not expecting to enjoy the game after that. It's really not something Souls games in general support unless you really just have complete understanding of the enemy attack patterns and priorities, which you would obviously have to play 200 or so hours beforehand to understand.

>>383978970
Try powerstancing greatswords then. I've beaten him before doing that with base VGR but I still hold that this boss is shit and the game is a terrible mess

>>383978970
i mean, you might not like glass cannon builds while i quite like them. i think we can come to a mutual agreement that Souls games offers a wide range of different play styles, even if they may or may not work.

>>383973569
U really think this boss fight is that hard?

>>383980113
Considering there's people in this thread sperging out because that one anon had 7 VGR I'd say yes. Now crawl back in your hole, faggot

>>383974498
>40 ADP
What are you doing??
The only reason to ever go any higher than 26 is to get backstep I-frames, but you'd never need to do that, because you get all the rolling I-frames you need with 26.

Ivory king is retarded at best, that boss fight was easy as fuck OP.

DaS2 didn't shine in pve either, it was the PVP that made the game shine.
Albino did a great video on DaS3 where he mentioned great facts about DaS2 pvp system.

Best netcode and invasion system in the series (inb4 lag, it really isnt a huge issue if you compaire it to 3 and 1's BS. Also, 8/10 times a US player gets that it's against a Brazilian)

I've been saying it for years and was called a dumbass for it by every bandwaggoning faggot.
DaS2 had weak pve and mao design, but it's unmatched in PVP which is one of the biggest parts of the game and is the only thing that keeos people playing after NG+3.

Soul memory was flawed but it always allowed for quick match finds in pvp.

This is how the gwyn fight should have gone, you and a few silver knights facing the lord of cinder and his black knights.