Has anyone bothered to try to make a Metroid Prime-alike? What's

>>383920140

nu-Doom

>>383920140
Watching paint dry

Halo 4

>>383920140
Nothing will be like Metroid Prime 1, it had an amazing atmosphere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LudFV61zsaw

>>383923067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbbUv1hz6mE

>>383920140
Star Wars Republic Commando

>>383920140
Actually, no.
You have the Trilogy, and that's it.
The only 3 good adventure games in first person.
Many people think that it is a fps, but it is not.
You shoot, yes, but the main focus in on adventure, discovery and research.
We can only hope that Prime 4 will be at least as good as Corruption, that would mean it would be a 10/10.

>>383920140
It would be nice to have another FPS that takes the risk of not having the normal FPS controls and tries to do other interesting things. That's what made Metroid Prime stand out to me. It doesn't control like normal FPS games, (unless you play Wii version, which is inferior), but manages to play very well and imo better than most other FPS games. It really is too bad we haven't seen anything like it.

Batman arkham asylum maybe?

Arkham Asylum

If you want something really recent: Prey

>>383924204
>It doesn't control like normal FPS games
Because it's not an FPS, why don't people understand this?

>>383925313
It is first person and it is a shooter. Its just different from other FPS games.

>>383925565
So is OoT a hack and slash now, you hack and slash at things with your sword.

>>383925838
It's almost like certain genres are more specific than others

>>383925838
Games have more than one genre

>>383920140
System Shock 1. It predates Metroid Prime though.

>>383920140
It's called "Halo", OP.

You know, the thing Metroid Prime is a clone of.

If you want a similar atmosphere then try Unreal, doesn't have a big interconnected world though.

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>>383927185
>Metroid Prime
>Halo clone

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>>383927185
I miss early 2000's shitposting so much.

>Metroid Prime-style VR adventure game
>using 360 treadmill
>huge walkable expansive world
... I heard Obduction was pretty alright

>>383927124
I've heard many times that SS1 is very similar to it. I hope they dont screw it up with the remake.

>>383924703
Completely wrong.

Turok 2

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>>383928635
Why don't you just play it now then?

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>>383923067
My dude. cheers to feels

>>383928989
the controls, dude, they fucking awful bloody controls

>>383920140
DOOM
The new one. It's structurally identical to a prime game but much faster.

>>383923568
system shock 1

I've been replaying the trilogy, in full for the first time.
There are other legitimate 3D metroidvanias, DaS etc, but not any i can legitimately call the same, even ignoring the FPS part.
Mostly because there's no point in other games where you can get stuck because you haven't found that one rock in that one spot that you had to blow up to progress.
not saying I like that, but it certainly belies a focus on the exploration over any other similar offerings.

>>383920958
>>383929473
Way too linear. All the backtracking is isolated to one area, and then you move to the next.
Not implying it's bad, I fucking love the new DOOM and Prime.

>>383929473
Really? Like its an adventure game? Missing Prime a bunch. My Wii shit the bed and my GC is miles and miles away. Looking for PS4 or 360 games honestly.

>>383929392
There's a mouse control mod, pretty sure the enhanced edition actually comes with that feature.

>>383929473
It has similar mechanics, like the platforming for example. But the game is pretty linear compared to Prime. It's also much shorter and is more about shooting the fuck out of enemies than it is exploring an area.

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>Interconnected level design
>Item gating
>Non linear progression
>Backtracking
Daily reminder that this is a Metroidvania.

Ultima Underworld 1,2
System Shock 1,2

Same thing

>>383929520
>>383929765
>>383928635

metroid prime is like a fps metroidvania, but system shock is more like a fps dungeon crawler

the enhanced edition on steam is great though, has mouselook and runs in higher definitions

it will run on a toaster too, since it's a proper port and doesn't rely on dosbox

>>383929886
It's close, more based on keys than abilities and such. I would love to see DMC5 less linear, DMC1 was closer of course since it was almost RE4

>>383930123
So someone was really keeping the source code lying around for 20 years? Wow.

>>383929886
Then shouldn't we call the genre Metroidevil or something since Resident Evil predates Symphony of the Night?

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>>383928635
SS1 is very similar to it. You have backtracking, a late game "key" hunt, scanning in the form of audio logs/emails/clicking on everything, platforming, upgrades, exploration, sequence breaking, and a shit talking Mother Brain with SHODAN. Looking Glass took everything they learned from Ultima Underworld (which I also recommend), put a sci-fi/cyberpunk twist on it and wound up making a Metroid Prime game on accident.

Honestly the remake doesn't look all that good. At least the Enhanced Edition is good though and has mouselook built in..

>>383929886
>Interconnected level design
>Item gating
>Non linear progression
>Backtracking
every single point and click adventure game is a metroid clone

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>>383920140
just fucking play prime you dweeb. the game its 15 years old. JUST fucking play it.


Its a literal masterpiece

>>383932169
2 is also a masterpiece and 3 is pretty good

I'm honestly pretty fucking stoked that they're making a 4th game

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>>383932280
>I'm honestly pretty fucking stoked that they're making a 4th game
>"They" are a completely different team to the one that made 1-3 and Retro has absolutely no involvement in it at all

Is there a decent mouse control setup for Dolphin? I tried it on Trilogy and it felt kinda shit, curious if GC Prime 1 and 2 are at least decent.

>>383932605
most of the prime guys left retro, so it doesn't really matter

they said the game will focus on "isolation and exploration", so I've got high hopes that they know what they're doing, and not just slapping samus in a generic shooter

>>383932169
he already played it, did you even read the thread

>>383920140
>Has anyone bothered to try to make a Metroid Prime-alike?
B3 Expo on the WiiU

>>383920140
I fucking hate the lack of true 3D Metroidvanias.

It's really something that should be done more. One of my dream games is a 3D TPS Metroidvania with an over-the-shoulder viewpoint where it starts out like a typical cover-based shooter, then by the end, you're sliding around like Vanquish, punching fools like God Hand, you have all these over-the-top weapons and abilities and shit, and it'd be glorious. One day, lads.

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Metroid Prime is pretty much Turok, seeing the same people that did it made up Retro Studios

https://comicgamersassemble.com/2015/01/19/10-ways-turok-and-metroid-prime-are-inadvertenly-the-same/

Out of curiosity, would anyone want to play a Metroid Prime that had the movement options of the pilots in Titanfall and with the level design to take advantage of it?

>>383933556
I would play the fuck out of that game, just so you know.

>>383933687
This is pretty much exactly what I've been memeing about wanting in Metroid threads for the past couple of years or so.

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>>383932989
>they said the game will focus on "isolation and exploration"
this senpai
if modern Retro was still on it, we'd get another mediocre Prime 3, which i know many people don't want.

meanwhile, seem like the new "amazing" team Nintendo found knows what the hell they are making for the sub-series.

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>>383933064
he should fucking play it again
>>383932280
Yes, 2 is objectively the best, as it utilizes the prime formula but is 90% original, and 3 is a fantastic game.

>>383933904
Isn't sakamoto also overseeing Prime 4? Or was just that Samus Returns?

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>>383920140
3D is a whole other can of worms for indies to try and do by themselves when compared with 2D. Add to that how the controls are going to be for the player, do you just make a 1-to-1 ripoff of prime Samus and her arm cannon or try to do something different? Also there's the challenge of actually making good 3D level designs that even seasoned AAA devs have trouble with. It's a tall order for anybody, Retro being a reasonably competent western dev under the guidance of pre Wii era Nintendo was the one in a million chance that made the Prime series be as timeless as it is.

>>383932605

Yeah and Retro was a literally who before Prime came along. Prime 4 isn't being made by Mercury Stream either so its future looks less uncertain than the Metroid 2 remake.

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>>383934357
>Isn't sakamoto also overseeing Prime 4
no, but he got promoted to Special Advisor for FF and maybe future Prime titles
he's doing Samus Returns however

>>383934551
Crossing my fingers he won't fuck then.

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>>383933687
Yes fucking pls

>>383928635
They already have. Just play the original.

>>383934551
>Special Advisor
what does that mean?

>>383933536
>ruin your dream game with CUHRAZZY memes

>>383934824
>Tanabe: "Hey Sakamoto-san, rhat u think of this?"
>Sakamoto: "Rook's pretty good, keep it up!"

>Tanabe: "Rhen should FF take place?"
>Sakamoto: "Same as it always been, before Samus Returns."

>>383934357
thankfully no

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>>383929473
DOOM 4 is pretty much Prime 3 with Doom slapped on it

>>383934824
he can tell people "dont do that " and they might not like that, but as co creator of the series they kinda have to listen to him out of respect.


Clearly he didn't tell a lot of people no during the development of Federation Force

>>383935101
doom 4 is not a metroidvania

>>383921401
>>383920958
nope. Missions are not metroidvania

>>383935149
after what he did to other M why does anyone anyone at nintendo even give a shit what he thinks?

>>383935101
why the fuck would you think that
let me know so I can show you how stupid you are

>>383935327
In both games you play as a robot who shoots aliens.

>>383935101
There's some exploration but like other anons have stated, way too linear and you're confined to one area

>>383935327
Prime 3 was way more linear than the previous two
even Hunters' single player manage to be more non-linear as doing any of Ocarina of Time's dungeons were.

>>383935262
Beats the shit out of me. He may have redeemed himself with Samus Returns though. I hope that's the case.

do the 3D Castlevanias hold the cake to being Metroid-y like SotN?

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>>383935180
>>383935327
>>383935546

>>383935587
its not about linearity, it's about level design.
Doom, halo, call of duty, standard FPSs all use mission based systems. You play mission 1, then mission 2, mission 3, etc etc until you win.
Prime, along with all metroidvanias, have one big world to explore. They are all linear in some fashion, you need to open all the doors in the right order, the exception being side rooms and upgrades you dont need to complete the game. Doom certainly has these rooms, but it doesnt have one big world to explore. Prime is built upon exploring the world you're in and solving "puzzles" or problems that lead you to the next area. Doom doesnt have this.
That's not even considering how the games play vastly differently, how enemies are designed, etc.

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>>383936004
i hope you dont reproduce if this is your deductive reasoning.
Wow this candy ball sure does look like a bouncy ball, i bet they behave the exact same way.

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>>383936004
doom 1 and 2 had big maps too, so what's your point?

having big maps doesn't make your game a metroidvania

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>>383920140
>FPS
>Nintendo
grab a neck and yourself it

>>383935262
Japan.

>>383920140
Just make a game where you point at shit and scan it and occasionally shoot stuff with awkward controls.

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>all these retards sayign DOOM is close to Prime 4
>comes nowhere as close to Strife or HeXen

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>>383936004

>>383935018
>Always

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>>383936537

>>383936586
>Not arways

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>>383936490
look at this doom-like you guys, the map is real big

>>383936280
>big, interconnected sections of the map that hide secrets and upgrades that can be explored at any time isn't a metroidvaina map

>>383936676
my bad

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>>383920140
Why even bother with Prime? It's fucking shit

>>383936735
>change something in metroid-vania
>permanently changed

>change something in doom
>everything reset when you play the mission again

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>>383936908

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Is it just me or is Metroid Prime 3 on Hyper Mode a better experience than playing Prime 1 for the first time?

>>383936957
>permanently changed
only if you save

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>>383936908
>it's been two months and Dobson is still assblasted over Metroid Prime 4

>>383937115
that is how video games work

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>>383937306
>two months
Are you from the furure?

>>383936586
Prime timeline has always taken place between 1 and 2, because Metroids still exist.

>>383937389
time fly by fast

>>383935101
You don't really backtrack to previous rooms that were locked up (unless you want to find secrets). Metroid REQUIRES you to do it.

Sure, there is a return to a previous map that you have been before in the game but it's an almost totally changed map.

>>383937306
please stop reading his shit, even ironically its still clicks

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>>383937627
i want everyone to see his unfathomed autism and furiously jump up when he says something extra-retarded in public

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>>383937784
>i want everyone to see his unfathomed autism and furiously jump up when he says something extra-retarded in public
You're a mean person

>>383937784
Everyone got mad when it happened in Other M because Samus had to ask daddy Adam's permission before using her Varia Suit. God Dobson is such a fucking idiot.

>>383937784
>what is food
holy shit I bet this guy didnt climb mountains until he met the rito

>>383937784

quit posting this dobson shit in every metroid thread

we get it, he's retarded

>>383938174
Damn I didn't even read the third tweet I was so mad.

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>>383938318
no thanks
or you want me to post some Moviebob instead?

>>383937784
He's an idiot.
He blocked me because he literally didn't know how to ignore my tweets. I laughed at his stupidity

>>383938174
>>383938378
Okay no but really that logic is STILL retarded. Link didn't have latent heat resistance built into his fucking tunic that Zelda had to authorize the use of.

I will say this, though. If the Gorons are already immune to extreme heat, why did they make heatproof gear and only sell it well into the heated area? Logically it doesn't make much sense. If their intent is to sell it to travelers, they should've sold it at the foot of the mountain, not in Goron Village.

>>383938464
i dont even know who that guy is. He reminds me of jack

>>383938613
its an exclusive club. Also, because its a fucking video game and it constantly encourages you to make and eat food. There's plenty of fireproof lizards leading up to it. The suit is your reward. Quit overanalyzing video games, dobson

>>383937306

>loves Other
>hates Prime

How can one man have such shit taste?

>>383937784

Link can eat food to protect himself from the heat and he didn't have an option. Samus actively chose to almost kill herself because of Adam.

Fuck, this faggot pisses me off so much. It is like he was custom made to be the most unlikeable person in the planet.

>>383937306
having the same opinions as dobson or movieblob is the best indicator of shit taste

>>383930123
>but system shock is more like a fps dungeon crawler

no lol

the whole station is structured exactly like a metroidvania game, you unlock new abilities and open up new sections

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>>383924703
This is the worst post on /v/ right now.

>>383939410
He likes other M more than Super
He's disgusting

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>>383934376
Wow this was. Such a well worded post actually

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>>383941735
i remembered all the people doubting the idea of TWO metroids being announced because "muh low status major IP" "it's not muh mario or shilling FE"
despite the fact it was just a false leak

but they actually did the impossible, to keep off armchairs getting in the way of the info they gotta shell out to journo outlets.

>>383940820
Alright I've got both System Shock games in my library, should I play 1 before 2?

>>383942750
try 1 first and if you can stand the controls then finish that one before jumping into 2

>>383942890
SS1 is the game where the controls take up half the keyboard right, I have the 'Enhanced Edition' from GOG so I'm not sure if there were any changes but are there any mods to alleviate the controls?

>>383927185
I didn't know halo had tank controls and it made you read shit

>>383943113
the controls are fine in the enhanced edition

people complain about ss1's controls because it didn't originally have mouselook

people just forgot to stop fucking complaining about it after the mouselook mods were made

>>383942082
you bet your ass Prime 4's budget is gong to be huge both Game and Marketing. Nintendo is going to push it HARD.

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>>383943113
Enhanced Edition has mouselook built in and you toggle it on and off. The controls are WASD and everything else is just for shit like leaning which you don't have to use. Controls are just fine.
The UI also just looks intimidating at first. Its point and click and the majority is just visual fluff. There's even a fullscreen mode that takes away all the unimportant stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3q356rZqQ4
Executive Level best level

>>383943727
>Nintendo
>marketing
heh

>>383920140
Why would you bother to copy one of the dullest games around?

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>>383943834
oops

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>>383943914

>>383943834
>he doesn't remember Primes live action trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewcljvJQAQA

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Can we get a Dobson thread?

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>>383944215
sure

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>>383943997
i wonder who was the person to like that tweet?

>>383937306

Honestly, i don't even mind that he dislikes Prime. The problem is he didn't even play it and actively acts like the game is garbage and everyone who enjoys it is a tasteless dude bro, while praising the game that single handily put the franchise on hiatus as the second coming of Jesus >>383943997
Didnt he accuse Other M haters of sexism, one time?

>>383943997
I bet your ass he was mad as fuck when they confirmed that Prime was canon.

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>>383944590
>Didnt he accuse Other M haters of sexism, one time?
there's this

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>>383944676
i wonder if he was mad back in 2014 when the spanish interview hitted the internet

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>>383944696
>MFW He truly has shit taste in fucking video games.
Say it with me guys atleast you'll never be as bad as Dobson.

>>383935205
Shut up nerd

>>383944286
did he tweet that shit to her after her dad died? what an insufferable moron

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>>383942890
>>383943113
if you're fine with metroid prime's controls i don't see how no mouselook would be a deal breaker for system shock

you get used to the different controls pretty quickly and you can do some neat things when you have so much control over your body and aiming

>>383937306

>Metroid has two reveals
>one is a title screen teaser of something he doesn't like
>the other is a Metroid remake with full gameplay videos that he likes
>he decides to make a comic shitting on what he dislikes

>>383945387
yep

>>383944696
>samus can have emotions and still kick ass
>every "emotion" in the game is her being submissive to male superiors who "outrank her" even though she's an independent bounty hunter who has never given a shit about rank
>other M literally makes samus walk through an area where she is burning to death because she hasn't been permitted to wear her fireproof suit yet
Other M is hilariously sexist and out of character and dobson is fucking hilarious for thinking other M is some feminist masterpiece

>>383945423
it's actually an edit based on that tweet of him getting pissed at Metroid Prime 4's reveal

>>383945423
He probably managed to scribble that up and post it before Treehouse started.

>>383945392
but there is mouselook

when was the last time you played ss?

even before enhanced edition, mouselook mods have existed for over a decade

>>383945759
yeah, i know there are mouselook mods, but i'm not a big fan of them. much like metroid prime doesn't need generic console fps twin stick controls, system shock doesn't need generic pc fps wasd+mouse controls. considering the premise, it should have unfamiliar controls that take some getting used to. you don't just get up out of a six-month coma with a cutting-edge cybernetic interface and keep doing things the way you always hvae.

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>>383944286

>he is still trying to backpedal

>>383945598

Welp i am stupid then, sorry.

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>>383944904
>you will never be Andrew Dobson
>you will never be Anthony Burch

>>383943997
Okay? That doesn't change the fact that Prime killed the entire series.

>>383925838
All i can tell you is that it sure as hell isn't an RPG

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>>383947315
you can step out of 4chan already Dobson

>>383942750
Yes, 1 is the best game and 2 is trash next to it but if you move it aside 2 is also beautiful.

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how could one or a group of autists in /v/ be angry over Primekino? seriously

>>383947787
hello false flag

>>383935262
Because he still directed Super.

>>383920140

Myst games, arguably
The Witness, too (despite faggots who call it nu-male core)
Dark Souls 1 is also a metroid style interconnected map

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>>383947842
>implying i'm not spiting contrarians trembling this this thread
what's to get mad at Prime?
traditional games still get made, fucking Miyamoto still experiments TPS Metroid, yet the small group of retards still screech at the sub-series like Dobby the Bear does.

if it's to blame the second drought of Metroid, take it up with Sakamoto.
>finished writing the plot and story of Dread
>still hasn't completed the game itself.
if Kano and Yokoi was around, they be around to be sure it gets made on time, not wait a bunch of years to do it.

>>383948708
>fucking Miyamoto still experiments TPS Metroid
what? since when? he hasn't helmed on Metroid since Prime 2

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>>383948810
Metroid Blast
in a interview, he says all his ideas for his next Metroid project were seen in Metroid Blast, hinting he could be establishing another style for the series like he cooperated with Prime with old Retro and Tanabe.

>>383947787
Yo, this used to be OC from me years ago when the Other M shitstorm was still freshly brewin'.
Why did you change the font, bro? You wanted it to be consistent with the next text underneath, huh?

>>383949443
>You wanted it to be consistent with the next text underneath, huh?
i guess, plus the text was too small

also, there was thread of idiots defending Other M's concept art with "NO NITPICKING REEE" so i wanted to re-enforce it with some "prove this wrong" statement at the end of it.

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>>383950037
>also, there was thread of idiots defending Other M's concept art with "NO NITPICKING REEE"
I remember when I posted that comparison for the very first time, I openly admitted to cherry-picking, so I'm not surprised this happened.
I did however also clarified, that if I took t he WORST Prime artwork and compare it to the BEST Other M artwork, Prime would still win. :^)

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>>383950259
man, GCN had the weirdest promotional merch back in the days

>>383923551
this

>>383927124
I agree with this anon

>>383923067
MP2 and 3?