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Why isn't this getting any third-party support? Even

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Why isn't this getting any third-party support? Even Japan is ignoring it.
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What third party support were you hoping for?
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Because nintendo handhelds don't attract heaps of 3rd party support?
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>>383910690
Western devs don't like Nintendo.
Japan is slowly abandoning everything for phones.
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>>383910807
Same as PS4/Vita
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Because Nintendo always gives devkits out to even respectable third parties at the the last possible second. Give it at least a year, probably two.
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>>383910690
It's been out for 4 months
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>>383911152
PS4 had all the third-parties day one.
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>>383911665
>cherrypicking this hard
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>>383911665
If you exclude the console exclusives this is not so bad
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>>383911367
Ports do not count Anon. You should know this.
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>>383911665
jesus christ what an awful list of games. i don't even want a switch but for fuck's sake
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>>383910878
where the fuck have you been?
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>>383911665
Most of those games are exclusive...
What is this supposed to mean nigga?
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>>383911367
Like what? What were all the Japanese third-party games coming out in the PS4's first year?
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>>383911665
>Mostly Weebshit
Out of all of that crap, I'd only even consider playing 3 of those games at most.
Shit list anyway.
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>>383911825
So BoTW isn't a Switch game then?
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>>383910690
It's already getting more love than the Wii U.

Granted it's not much, but at least it's something.
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>>383912063
>Mostly Weebshit

Am I missing something? Isn't this want Switch owners want the most? They don't care about Dark Souls or anything like that.
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Because third parties desperately do NOT want Nintendo to dominate the industry and sales, because they know they can't compete in that environment.
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>>383911665
>Xbone has more weeb games than a Japanese fucking console
How did Nintendo fuck up this hard?
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>>383912495
>Because third parties desperately do NOT want Nintendo to dominate the industry and sales, because they know they can't compete in that environment.
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>>383910690
I wonder as well.
We had like 3 threads up at all time before release saying the Switch was going to do better than the Wii U because it was getting 3rd party support.
It's probably doing fine and I don't care about multiplats, but the shills on this website should stop lying.
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>>383912681
Third-parties suffocate during a Nintendo monopoly while they thrive under a Sony monopoly.

The only third-parties who still bother with Nintendo are the ones making uber casual games or are getting paid by Nintendo. They even lost Monster Hunter, their crown third-party jewel.
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This was the only kind of third party support Wii got, but normies aren't eating up the Switch the way they did Wii so even shovelware developers are avoiding it.
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>>383913642
A-All of them?
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>>383912495
>being this delusional
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>>383910690

this
>>383911104

Nintendo can't be shown up on their own system after all.
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>>383912063
>complaining about Japanese games on a Japanese console
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>>383912750
I honestly don't now what people expected. Nintendo makes it difficult for third party anyhow. Too much bullshit where they hike up prices for physical and digital releases and such. That's why when you do see third party it's treated special and such, like giving it a Nintendo skin or something.
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>>383913642
DB fighterz probably is
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>>383912063
well switch owners aren't getting western games either
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>>383912063
This is a perfect example of just eating up Nintendo's bullshit. Well they can't get third party support, therefore it must be shit. I dunno, maybe you legitimately hate nip games. Still, there have been many Nintendo users with this unironic mindset.
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>>383913642
Top kek you want to talk exclusives and Nintendo in the same sentence? Silly child.
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>>383915151
None of these are exclusive though...
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>>383913642
>starwars: battlefront II
keep that EA garbage heap of a game away from the switch, please
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>>383915293
It's ok you won't be getting it anyways.
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>>383915293
I betcha you wouldn't say that if it were coming to Switch.
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>>383915293
switch cant run battlefront 2
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>>383910690
Contrary to what Nintendo fans think. Every major 3rd Party publisher hates Nintendo, even Japanese ones, and have been trying to force them out of the video game industry for decades now. When companies like Square or Capcom support Xbox One more even though their games sell like absolute shit on that system over Nintendo, it should tell you something.
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Because it's shit.
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>>383915421
Not him, but I was in the camp of being completely fine with the Wii U missing the majority of "triple A" third party releases, since most of them looked like shit anyway.

That said, I'm a little perturbed by the lack of exclusives at the Switch's launch. It honestly feels even more barebones than the Wii U's launch.
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>>383915613
/thread
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>>383915274
Exactly.
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>>383910690
This started with the Wii and shouldn't surprise anyone. 3rd party developers didn't want to bother because they knew the game wouldn't sell as well on a weaker console with mandatory waggle gimmicks. The Wii U launched with Mass Effect 3, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed 3, and CoD: Black Ops 2. They sold a combined total of 18 copies. Virtually everyone who buys a Nintendo console buys it solely for exclusives and plays multiplats on a PC or PS4.
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>>383912495
>nintendies actually belive this
wow that mind gymnastics you made to belive you arent sweaty neckbeard manchildren playing kids games work great
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>>383915293
Meanwhile you're playing the paintball version of Battlefront without the cool lightsaber shit.
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I'm glad /v/ wasn't as bad when the 3DS launched, because no one here seems to remember that line-up of games. Go on, englighten me.
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>>383915613
...you do know that 3ds also counts as nintendo too right? theres more square and capcom games on that than xbox.
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>>383915975
3DS had SF4 and Tekken on it.

Meanwhile, there's nothing but an SNES port of SF2 on Switch. That's about the entirety of Switch's third-party for this year.
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>>383915975
less cryptic pls
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>>383916115
3DS had fucking terrible ports of Tekken and SF4 that people already played, you forgot to mention.
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>>383915613
>have been trying to force them out of the video game industry
do you have shit for brains kid?
its their "premium" fisher price hardware thats a nightmare to develop for since n64
every new console they relase the shills always say
>hurr is da best console eva to develop for
and then it doesnt get games
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As far as third-party development goes, the Switch somehow ended up with the worst aspects of the Wii and Wii U; weak hardware and low install base, respectively.
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>>383911757
>all the relevant games
>cherrypicking
Stay mad, cuck.
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It's gotten Super Bomberman R, I Am Setsuna, Blaster Master Zero, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Ultra Street Fighter II, Cave Story+, and Disgaea 5 so far. It's getting Fate/Extella, Monster Hunter XX, Sonic Mania, Azure Striker Gunvolt, One Piece: Unlimited World, Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, Touhou Kobuto V, and Nights of Azure 2 in the near future. There's been Dragon Quest XI, Nobunaga's Ambition: Spheres of Influence, Shin Megami Tensei, No More Heroes, Senran Kagura, Story of Seasons, and Tales announced already. Publishers are talking interest in releasing Dragon Ball FighterZ, Castlevania, Neptunia, and Tekken. I'm not seeing any particular lack of Japanese third-party.
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>>383916414

It seems like Konami is siding with Nintendo this gen. Can't wait for inevitable Castlevania and Contra game on Switch.
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>>383916286
>weak hardware and low install base

Wat? Show me a more powerful portable console right now.

Low install base? Where have you been hiding. Nintendo literally can't make enough to meet demand.

Delusional.
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>>383912495
If you had talked about the requirements to quality, you would've been fine, but no. You chose "Nintendo would dominate all the cometition..." I had faith in you, anon.
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>>383914005

This. This is the only reason, there will be more 3rd party later. Don't expect as much as ps4/xbone multiplats, but there will be stuff after Nintendo owns their first year.
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They just announced xenoverse 2 and a wwe game. that's easy and west third party support. Myth busted.
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>>383913642
Half of those aren't special and DBZ might

(You)
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>>383916581
ps vita
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It just simply isn't worth publishing for the Switch. It's a numbers game that most developers wouldn't want to risk, given the shit shoot nature of it. Why waste money putting something on a Nintendo console when the demographic may or may not be interested in said product? At least with the competitor's machine you know they'll buy whatever you're selling.

Nintendo makes it extremely difficult for third party to even get their games on digital much less physical media. The payout is too great and the outcome too small.
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>>383916752
>ps vita

It's actually a retard.
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>>383916581
>Wat? Show me a more powerful portable console right now.

My phone.
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>>383916752
lol

weird, because unlike your clearly warehouse picture, nobody can find one here.

What's your mental deficiency, anyway?
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>>383916581
Not him. But whenever the shortages blow over, if they ever do I cannot wait to see the numbers on an unhinge Nintendo Switch, and how it fares against the still juggernaut PS4.
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>>383912495

/v/ is too underage now to know you're right.
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>>383910690

It is though? The system has been out for four months and is a handheld, yet people are desperate to compare it to consoles that have been out for four years.
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>>383911665
I don't get it, a lot of those were exclusives or games that came out right as the Switch was launching, or before it like Berseria. Like why the fuck would Nioh or Yakuza be on the Switch?
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>>383916752

>the vita is more powerful than the switch
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>>383917105
Xbone and PS4 both had way more third-parties at this stage.
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>>383916920
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>>383917207
Let it go, this is new /v/, we can't bully downies anymore
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>>383917134
You really shouldn't think too hard about bait.

Also try to ignore the chart on the right, because the one on the left is definitely more telling.
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>>383916581
>Show me a more powerful handheld right now.
When Switch owners talk about third-party support, it's safe to assume they want what the PS4 and XBone already have, right? If so, then that poses a big problem; the Switch can't hold a candle to actual consoles. Publishers probably don't think it's wroth downgrading their games for a tiny audience.

>Nintendo literally can't make enough to meet demand.
Compare the Switch's current sales figures with the PS4 and XBone. Now look at things like a publisher would. It doesn't matter how quickly the Switch is selling this instant, it's not worth the time, effort, or money to port some of these games over (assuming it's even possible) to a fraction of the install base the competition already has.
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>>383910690
DUDE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE PLASTIC FEEL LIKE BOOBS THO LMAO
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>>383917448
Not that you'd know the difference.
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>>383915975

Don't forget half of /v/ is now literal 10 year olds with no sense of history or taste. They don't understand that the Switch's first 4 months literally blows the first 4 months of any other system out of the water. Seriously, I'm pretty sure you have to go all the way back to the PS2 to find a comparable lineup. If anyone disagrees, feel free to enlighten me.
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>>383917105
The Switch is a console when the fans want it to be, and a handheld when they don't.

It's the Jew of video game systems.
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>>383917569
All Switch has is a Wii U port though.
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>>383910690
Don't release a game at the same time as splatoon or else you might as well just not release it at all
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>>383915862
Technically it started with Gamecube, just on a lesser scale. Nintendo really fucked up when not picking good formats that made development cheap. Nintendo's biggest problem is their desire to force developers into paying them for SOMETHING. Always something proprietary.

It's bad enough if it were the average customer (and they've gotten much better than that) but you can't force developers and big time publishers to eat the shit end of the stick and then be surprised when they abandon you. Because unlike customers, companies don't have "favorite consoles". They don't have fanoboyism. They operate on one principle, profit.

Now, some would argue that's a bad thing that they have no passion outside of money and I would agree. But it does keep shit like what Nintendo tries to do to them at bay. That's why 3rd Parties went to Sony PS1 and PS2. And that's why they kept going anywhere else but Nintendo. To be honest, outside of some individual indie devs and 2nd Parties, many still remember what happened with N64 and Gamecube. And that image of Nintendo hasn't disappeared in their eyes. They hold grudges longer than any customer.
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>>383917569
The only exclusive the Switch has is ARMS.
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>>383917353
I just want all the indie games that I don't want to have to sit at my computer to play, to be honest.

So long as people make some cool local multiplayer games for the thing I'll be pretty pleased.
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>>383917610
so... no argument. Got it
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>>383917353
>it's safe to assume they want what the PS4 and XBone already have, right?

You assumed wrong, they want big name exclusives, like SMT, No more Heroes, and Monhun, two of which they got.
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>>383917730
Well since your argument is a Wii U port while PS2 had GT3, TTT2, GTA3, DMC1 and so on, I don't know what point you wanted to make.
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>>383917572

The Switch is a handheld, undebatably. If you say otherwise you don't understand hardware.
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>mfw shitposting retards are STILL trying to push the 'switch is faillign guys fo' real''
>mfw those dumb niggers will vanish by the end of the year
>mfw they won't livestream their suicide

feelsbadman
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>>383917979
Nintendo calls it a console.

You gonna disagree with the people who make it?
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>>383918015

Yeah I am
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>>383918000
So where are the third-party games?
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>>383918000
Nice trips, but I don't see any of realistically happening if the shortages still continue.
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>>383917924
Botw MK8 Arms Splatoon next week.

Killing yourself seems the most advantageous proposition
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>>383911665
i wonder who made this picture
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>>383916971
Third parties win the more accesible their product is, they make more money if it's on every console.
How is he right?
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>>383918106
Well, you can disagree, but you can't fault anyone for calling the Switch a console when the Big N does the same.
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>>383910690
What about this anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZJf1iTkgx4
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>>383918147
>Botw MK8

Ports.

Arms is sitting in the low 70s on Metacritic. Splatoon isn't even out.
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>>383910690
card only holds 32 gigs

most games nowadays are over 50
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>>383918015
Handhelds ARE consoles.
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>>383918116
shortage will stop by september at latest( ie when apple finalyl release their shit)

Apple always build a LARGE stockpile because their shit sells gangbuster early then trickle down rapidly. By september end component should be more avalaible. Don't be retarded and think that the current situation is permanent, anon
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>>383918147
You named two ports, a kusoge and maybe an OK if you're ok with casual console shooters.

Sorry but you shouldn't compare yourself to the PS2 standards. Not even PS4 fanboys are that delusional. Aim something more realistic, maybe Wii U?
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>>383918307
Nintendo refers to it as a home console.
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Worst decision i ever made was buy a switch.
It has the absolute worst game linup and its been out for over 4 months now..
No wonder nobody wants a switch.
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>>383917924

>muh Wii U port argument

Zelda and MK8D count no matter how desperately you don't want them to. Especially MK8D considering it's vastly improved and it doesn't actually exist on Wii U. Regardless they are games coming from a platform almost no one bought so to the vast majority of people they "count".
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>>383918290
>what is compression?
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>>383918264
>>383918339


love those non arguments. Keep them coming. Sonybros are REALLY upset. Or maybe they know their time is at end? Maybe you dumb nigger shouldn,t have been shitposting for years.
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>>383918356
Pretty weak for a console.
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>>383910878
That is factually wrong. Nintendo practically had a monopoly on handhelds until smart phones started getting normal fags attention.
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>>383918290
Blame incompetent devs who can't compress folders to save there lives.
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>>383913642

DBFZ has the higher chance of getting a Switch version and BG&E2 isn't coming out for any current gen console anytime soon
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>>383918436
Anon, you can never, EVER, complain about "HD remasters" and multiplatform games, just wanna let you know.
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>>383916591
>>383912681
>>383913852
Look at these underage faggots and laugh. Anon was simply saying that third parties hate Nintendo because of their draconion attitude towards publishing and licensing, which includes charging ridiculously high premiums for any third party games published on their consoles and even charging additional fees just for having the word "Nintendo" on the box. Nintendo also owns most of the manufacturing facilities they use to produce the cover art, boxes, discs, etc. for the retail units, so all said and done they rake in about 75%, leaving VERY little for the actual devs. That means, if Nintendo were the dominant force in the industry, devs would make less money. Educate yourselves retards.
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>>383918436
>Zelda and MK8D count
You spent years saying how PS4 multiplats don't count as games and now you're pulling this shit on us? Are you for real?

>Regardless they are games coming from a platform almost no one bought
Switch has a way smaller install base than Wii U, this is not an excuse. The same way you didn't excuse all those Vita-PS4 games.
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>>383918460
ps4 is selling more than switch tho
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>>383918436
Different anon here with a switch with more than enough games

>MK8D considering it's vastly improved and it doesn't actually exist on Wii U
cmon dude
its the same game
The battle mode isn't a huge addition, its what should have been there in the first place.

I don't mind all the Wii U ports. You KNOW every worthwhile Wii U game is getting a rerelease because nobody wants to have a Wii U in their house.
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>>383918335
>Don't be retarded and think that the current situation is permanent

But I didn't. I said if it still continues. Apple is a mega corporation unlike anything this world has ever seen. Don't think for a second that they won't be greedy and still horde more NAND chips well after iPhone 8 drops. And don't say anything IF you still see these shortages peruse well into 2018.
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>>383918180

Third parties traditionally sell worse on Nintendo platforms because they have to compete with Nintendo exclusives, which unlike PlayStation and Xbox exclusives, are actually good. A hypothetical ecosystem where Nintendo is dominating the market is a rough place for third parties.
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>>383918356
A merketing strategy to differenciate it from their handheld 3DS console perhaps.

It both. A handheld AND a home console. That's why it's called what it's called. But primarily the argument could be made that it's a handheld which up scales to your tv. The handheld IS the console. There's no tech in the dock.
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>>383916079
>...you do know that 3ds also counts as nintendo too right? theres more square and capcom games on that than xbox.
Because Nintendo has always had a monopoly on the handheld markt (mobile games notwithstanding). A platform which has outdated hardware means cheap development, and a large installed base of users means potential for many sales. It's a very attractive prospect for developer devs that want to make games without a huge investment.
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>>383918645
Because supply constraint, dumb nigger

>>383918671
Apple is not even #1 currently. And why would they decide to horde chips, they didn't for the last 8 fuckign iphones. Do you have actual mental problems?
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>>383918224

>Indie shit

Invalid because.
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>>383918731
Unlike Playstation and Xbox, Nintendo fans literally only buy Nintendo branded shit. They don't give a shit about third-parties, period. It's not a matter of quality, it's a matter of attitude.
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>>383918356
Only in America, and for marketing purposes, because handhelds are unpopular here. Regardless, it objectively is a handheld hardware wise. The dock is little more than an HDMI out. If the switch didn't have a dock and simply had an HDMI port on it, no one would be calling it a home console, but that's exactly what the dock is.
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>>383910690
It's 2007 hardware means devs have to put in more effort than its worth to downgrade their games for it. That or some are just not possible like Red Dead 2.
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>>383918858
>asks for thirdparty support
>expects anything other than indie on a """ home console"""

Its looks fun anyways stop being a shitter yearly assassin' creed baby
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>>383918906
When 3rd parties bring good game they get bought. When shit company bring shit port 6 month late they don't. Don't be a mongoloid, don't generalise of the back activision and bioware trash.
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>>383918841
PS4 and Wii both were supply constrained aswell but they still sold record numbers.

Most places in Europe has Switch in stock. The shortage is only really bad in Japan where there is actual demand just like there was demand for Wii U.

Green means in-stock for each chain.
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>>383918906
Disgaea 5 Switch pre-orders alone were more than its total sales on PS4.
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>>383918363
Show me the lineup compared to first four months or PS4, Xbone, and Wii U. It blows all 3 out of the water.
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>>383911665
>>383912531
yep and the guy who made that picture forgot to put a checkmark by kh3 and valkyria revolution for the xbone.
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>>383919018
So when has Nintendo audience ever bought a good third-party game in decent enough numbers? The last one was probably Soul Calibur 2 back when Nintendo still bothered with decent hardware.
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>>383919042
Nintendo is Haram, so obviously unpopular in Sweden. Still weird that you post a 3 week old shitposting image.
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>>383911665
>image talking about multiplats
>for some reason includes a bunch of Sony exclusives
???
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>>383919140

Recently? Super Bomberman R
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>>383918642
>You spent years saying

Oh really, I didn't know you had personally been tracking me for years!

My point is that remakes/ports/remaster count to the people that never had the platform they originally were on. The difference is that the PS3 wasn't a failed console, as the Wii U was.
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>>383919214
I looked it up again and it's just as green now.

Nobody in Europe cares. Nintendo is fighting for attention in a market saturated with phones, PCs and Playstations. The world no longer has room for Switch. Only Japan cares where consoles and PC aren't as big.
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>>383919140
Pokken and HW are both over a million. Rayman and Lego city.

Seriously nigger, what's your disfunction? Did reggie touch you innapropriately?
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>| PS4 # | 29.771 | 29.194 |
>| NSW | 26.256 | 25.805 |
>| 3DS # | 14.890 | 15.720 |
>| PSV # | 4.572 | 4.403 |
>| WIU | 164 | 193 |
>| PS3 | 148 | 153 |
>| XB1 # | 72 | 228 |
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>>383911665
>tfw they would rather put ace combat 7, fucking monster hunter, FUCKING WEEB SOULS, AND MOTHERFUCKING VALKYRIA ON THE GOD DAMN FUCKING XBOX ONE, WHERE THEY WILL SELL NEGATIVE COPIES, THAN MAKE SLIGHTLY DOWNGRADED VERSIONS FOR THE SWITCH WHERE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY SELL
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>>383919381
do post it, tard-kun

Keep your swecuck shitposting up to date

While you do, here are USA and Canada

Do note that those 2 are 360 million to the swecuck 7

http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/nintendoswitch/
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>>383919042
You literally cannot buy one in America.
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>>383919550
I think you need help. You are taking this very personally.

https://www.prisjakt nu/produkt.php?p=3154603

There. You actually need to look very hard to find a store that doesn't have Switch in stock. I can assume this applies all over Europe since Nintendo has never been big in Europe save the Wii craze.
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Real talk Nintendo users. Do you even care about third party support? I mean why would you buy a Nintendo console and not buy Nintendo only games?

Doesn't make sense.
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>>383912681
>>383913852
How is he wrong. Just think about it. Nintendo games are the best selling games on their console. If Nintendo was the only console on the market 3rd party devs would have strong competition for sales. Release around the same time as a Mario or Zelda and forget about it. But on the PS4 and Xbox first party games are often weak titles and don't come around very often. It is a better environment for 3rd party devs to sell their games. It makes since for them to exclude Nintendo, their games have more competition on a Nintendo platform.
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>>383919439
>Pokken and HW
Those are both their own series that they licensed out. He means non-Nintendo IP.
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>>383919862
Not so much as competition as Nintendo being geniunely Yakuza material to work with and you always getting the short end of the stick as a third-party with nonexistant dev kits and ridiculous Nintendo fees for selling a game.
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>>383911665
kek
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>>383919793
>I can assume this applies all over Europe since Nintendo has never been big in Europe

But thats wrong. Retard ;^)


Did you check the link, you can go to italy, france, germany.

Can you guess the stock there?

Man, i thought that sweden being mongoloid cucks was exaggerated. Guess /pol/ was right, once again
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>>383910690
Shortages and scalpers.

Units are selling. Software is slowing to a crawl.
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>>383919967
read again, little nigger.
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>>383918452
compression takes time

devs are lazy
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>>383920149
Again, mental illness. I think someone is mad their little narrative of shortages is falling apart. It's ok, nobody was buying into it anyways. Especially not third-parties who are still treating Switch as poison and will treat Switch as poison until it dies prematurely just like Wii U did.
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>>383915613
This.
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>>383920386
>where is it falling appart, cuck-kun

You can go check RIGHT NOW and see there's none to be bought. Why are you afraid of the truth, little cuck? That's not the way to live your life
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>>383920594
>sold out everywhere
>meanwhile green everywhere except amazon
It's ok maybe one day you will have a third-party game. Meanwhile all you can do is go on Twitter and beg Bamco to port Dark Souls.
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>>383917979
Glad we agree that Nintendo has dropped out of console making.
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>>383912454
How will Nintendo ever recover?
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>>383920780
But it isn,t green, you little mentally challenged cuck

Unless you think a 7 million muslim and beta cuck country IS a good indicator.
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>>383914585
>I honestly don't now what people expected.
I expected literally nothing and I still do, which is why I'm holding off on buying a Switch.
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>>383916920
>costs $800
>can't even come close to playing anything like botw
yeah sure bud
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>>383919808

They do, only when third parties actually put in some effort. The third party effort from the Wii U was the worst I've ever seen for a Nintendo console.
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>>383922365
And when Nintendo actually puts in an effort to be lucrative to third-parties (decent hardware, no gimmicks, no ridiculous fees) then maybe third-parties will bother. Right now, they see no incentive when they are so successful on PC/PS4/Xbone.
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>>383922252
>$800
What are you, poor?

Also, pic related is the best portable device on the market, and it can run CemU and Dolphin. Also you fags don't get to complain about cost after months of shitposting telling people who don't wanna buy your stupid overpriced tablet are poorfags. You wanna get the best, you pay for the best. Sorry, but I don't settle for mediocre shit.
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>>383922861
>CemU
On a laptop? Enjoy that 15 FPS I guess.
>Dolphin
Dolphin's pretty well optimized, so you'd be getting 30-60 FPS.
Do you even own a Surface? They're not that strong my man. And if the argument was about being a poorfag or a richfag, a richfag would rather spend 300 for his wahoo bing bing machine than 800, because that's how you get rich (not making stupid purchases and making smart investments).
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>>383923208
Rich man wouldn't buy a bing bing wahoo machine with no games to play. Rich man doesn't throw his money away on stupid garbage, that's why he's rich.

"A fool and his money are always soon parted."
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>>383923723
But Anon, what about all of these games?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games
I'd say portability is worth double dipping on some games (BotW, Rocket League, Shovel Knight).
Who hurt you? Did your parents buy you a Playstation 2 instead of a Gamecube so you decided you'd never love Nintendo again?
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>>383924184
almost all of them are available on other platforms
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>>383919140
Monster Hunter games on 3DS sell around 4 million copies each.
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>>383922861
>it can run CemU and Dolphin
lmao no it cannot, and both of those are behind in terms of console generation.

>Also you fags don't get to complain about cost
Just try and stop me bitch. The most powerful phone are in the $800+ range and cannot run games at the level of the switch because they weren't optimized or designed for it. Your dumb little phone comment holds no water. And then you try to bring in a literal tablet PC and a controller acting like that's the same as a device you can play in your hands on a train or bus. That's laughably pathetic.
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>>383924641
They sold as much on PSP too. All that changed was the 50 million from Nintendo's hands to Capcom's pockets.

Sony repaid the offer this gen.
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>>383923723
You're confusing being rich and being smart and it's pretty clear you're neither of those
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>>383924610
And? You said it has no games, I post some games, but they don't count because they're on other consoles?
The reason to buy them on the Switch? Portability. Probably the best gimmick Nintendo's ever had. It's useful as fuck. Bring it to a party, bring it to a friend's house for LAN, play it on the bus, play it during break at work.
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>>383925058
That doesn't have anything to do with the claim that Nintendo owners don't buy third-party games.
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>>383924775
>lmao no it cannot,
Yes it can.

>>383924184
No, it's not worth double dipping as I'm an adult and portability does not benefit me in any way. If I want portability, I can literally play them off my steam account on my tablet without any added cost and with much better res and frame rate than the Switch can put out.

>who hurt you
Nintendo pissed be off with the Wii and WiiU, I've owned every console they've made, but after their latest betrayal, I actually want the Switch to fucking fail. I can't believe they duped me like that. And worse yet, the WiiU is still a far better console than the Switch.
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>>383925143
except no one does that, bring switch at party and everyone will laugh at you, oh wait i thought you were talking about adult's parties for a moment, no about parties were you invite clowns, my bad
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>>383925058
Nah, Capcom exec, in their supreme Capcom ineptitude way, ecide that the massive japanese success shoul be guttend and casualised for the western market.

Basically, capcom not fucking up with MH was a freak occurence, and we are back at normality. I personally hoped that the SFV fuckup was big enough to force the capcom boss to actually think for a moment, but that was hopign for too much
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>>383924775
>lmao no it cannot, and both of those are behind in terms of console generation.
Yes it most definitely can you stupid dildo:

https://youtu.be/waEJKoAkXw8
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>>383925648
Mario maker. Now show zelda.

Will be waiting. (forever)
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I get the impression that Nintendo rushed the console to market, what with the lack of OS features and general shortage of both consoles and accessories available for it.

I think that 3rd party devs literally wern't given enough time to get games ready for it's launch window, save for a select few indies doing straightforward ports.

If by next year things don't start picking up, there'll be more cause for concern.
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>>383910878
it's not a handheld

>>383911665
it's not a home console

>>383916286
it's not a fucking home console

>>383917105
it's not a FUCKING handheld

>>383917353
IT'S NOT A HOME CONSOLE

>>383918307
>>383918307
IT'S
NOT A FUCKINGHANDKLEH >>383918645
ITS'T NOT A HOME CONSOPLE YOU FUCK
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>>383925908
Sounds like the Wii U

>wait for mario kart, zelda, bayonetta, animal crossing, zenoblade, smash etc etc, you'll see, the wii u will win!

Switch is playing the same waiting game
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>>383925327
>streaming them to a tablet
Enjoy your input lag I suppose.
>pissed me off with the Wii and the WiiU
The Wii was a fine console though Anon, some games ended up shittier due to the motion controls gimmick, but a lot of great games came out of it (Mario Galaxy, No More Heroes, Twilight Princess).
The WiiU was by all means a failure. The only reason I even still have mine is for playing Smash. It had some fantastic games, but the main gimmick of the tablet controller was stupid. I don't regret owning one, but the Switch is everything the WiiU was supposed to be.
>>383925375
Thank you ESL-kun, it's good to know you haven't graduated high school yet. People generally don't play video games at those 50 people high school parties, but at 25 people parties that don't involve trashing the Chad's parents home? Busting out a Wii, some Mario Kart/Mario Party/Smash, and some drinks was standard fare for college parties. The same could be done even easier with the Switch, in fact, I literally just did it last weekend. People had a blast playing Mario Kart.
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>>383910950
>Vita
You're already having it.
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>>383918264
77 is on the low end?
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>>383926108
>Nintendrumpf desperate damage control
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>>383926150

Yeah, definitely has the potential to swing that way if the sales momentum doesn't entice 3rd party devs. Hopefully it ends up being like the 3DS with a first year drought before taking off, and Pokemon next year gives the installbase a kick in the pants it needs.
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>>383926271
>bragging about portable on a home party where portability doesnt matter
sure
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>>383926460
>bringing a bulky standard console
>bringing a tablet and a small dock
Gee I wonder which one is easier to transport.
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>>383925327
>Yes it can.
No it can't.


> I'm an adult and portability does not benefit me in any way.
You never leave your house or hang out with friends? Wow what a mature adult, I applaud you.

>If I want portability, I can literally play them off my steam account on my tablet
What happened to your phone that was so much more powerful than the switch? Are you saying now I have to pay $1300 to not even play Nintendo games on a setup that isn't nearly as portable?

>after their latest betrayal, I actually want the Switch to fucking fail
>boo hoo I bought a bad looking console and it failed, Nintendo betrayed me!
>IM AN ADULT I SWEAR GUYZ, AN ADULT AN ADULT
You should start chilling with friends more like a real adult. You'd probably be a hoot, you sure make me laugh a lot at least.
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>>383925648
That's not even the same device as the one in the picture. And it's 2D Mario. And it's running poorly, with graphical bugs.
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>>383926660
both, unless you transport them on a bike but even then you could put ps4 in the backpack, you would have to to it with switch regardless, but keep pretending switch's portability matters
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>>383926325
kek
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>>383918784
thats not a counter argument, your just explaining why the devs you said didnt like nintendo have reasons for liking nintendo.
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>>383926108
But tablets are handhelds and the Switch is just a tablet with a dock.
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>>383926828
How does it not matter? Less weight and smaller size means it's less of a burden to transport, which provides incentive to bringing it places.
Not to mention if you want to use the TV for other things or you want to have a LAN party you can use tabletop mode, so you don't need multiple TVs like if you wanted to set up a PS4 LAN.
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are people actually defending the switch? its shit thats why its getting no third party support.
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I regret getting one.
I can feel it turning into the Wii U.
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>>383927162
i guess you must be right, lan parties never existed before switch
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>>383912952
>while they thrive under a Sony monopoly.
So much of a Sony monopoly they're getting only multiplats and the worst versions too, MHWorld included
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>>383927307
i tried to warn you man.
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>>383926325
>Still waiting for more weebshit
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>>383927398
Please highlight where in my post I said LAN parties never existed before the Switch, I'm curious as to how you extrapolated that from my post.
My point is that the Switch makes it easy.
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>>383929050
theres nothing hard about transporting ps4 or pc in a car, and paying $300 for overpriced shit just because its easier to transport it is just retarded, not to even mention there are literally no good party games on this shit
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>>383929050
Can you even use the Switch in LAN to play with friends?

Kinda hard to do a LAN when you can't play games through LAN.
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>>383929634
at least they can voice chat
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>>383929321
>theres nothing hard about transporting ps4 or pc in a car
Yes, yes there is. They're not really meant to be transported, so if you're a retard (i.e. the average consumer) you'll most likely drop your shit.
>literally no good party games
>MK8D
>ARMS
>Snipperclips
>Rocket League
>Fifa
>NBA
>Metal Slug
>Just Dance
>Puyo Puyo Tetris
>SF2
Of course, you'll just say "I said GOOD games!!".
>>383929634
Why would they not give a portable console the ability to play with friends over LAN? Hell, there are commercials of them doing it with Splatoon 2 and ARMS.
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>>383920983
Jesus christ this is the dumbest chart I've ever seen.

You literally cannot call the second thing a downward trend. You have 4 actual points of data and they do not imply a downward trend. Plus that chart just added together like 4 gameboys.
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>>383926760
>>383926761
This is my tablet, it can run CemU just fucking fine, it puts the Switch to shame. The Surface Pro 5 JUST came out, and it's a much better PC tablet than my Companion 2, however, I got the CC2 for drawing, so it doesn't matter.

Moreover, it can easily run most current gen games at medium + settings off my Steam library, and I can upgrade its current 16 Gigs of DDR3 RAM to 32, and the SSD to a TB one when those are available. It can run Zelda just fine, IF I wanted it to, however, I have a hacked WiiU so I don't need to. I've already played and beaten that turd, and it's not something that works well for portable gaming.

So no you stupid Dildo, the Switch is not the most powerful portable device on the market, not by a long shot, it's a low end budget tablet with the PROMISE of exclusive games. I think I'll fucking pass.
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>>383929791
average nintendo customer is a retard or a 5yo, they will drop switch sooner that ps4 owner drop his console. also all you good party games are on different consoles, dont forget everyone already owns ps4
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>>383929791
>Why would they not give a portable console the ability to play with friends over LAN?
Cause these days everything has to be PSN this and Nintendo Network that.

Does the Switch even have an ethernet port? I mean on the dock.
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>>383910690
japs only play card games and other turn-based shit. phones are perfect for that. they have no need for another device.
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>>383916752
what about it?
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>>383930112
And in case you wanna doubt me about my $2000 tablet, here you fucking go. Go suck on a chode.
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>>383910690
Because once again, despite being a good system Nintendo has decided the Switch should be last-gen hardware that is a pain in the ass to develop or even port for. Nintendo also has a relentless quality control process that scares off developers that don't meet their standards of polish, which should be a good thing but as it turns out most of the industry are lazy incompetent shitters, so most devs drop the switch.
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>>383930112
This fucking child.

Do you wake up every morning, seething with hatred because of Nintendo's success? Hilarious. Poor baby.
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>>383930215
lan parties only over wifi
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>>383930483
>despite being a good system
Kek
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>>383930138
>average nintendo customer is a retard or a 5yo
Damn, I didn't realize you had direct statistics of Nintendo's userbase, or is that just ad hominem? The Switch is pretty durable too, the screen won't crack due to the material it's made out of either. It's made to be banged up a bit by children in portable mode.
Are you just going to keep moving the goal posts over and over again?
>there's no point in having portable games!
>well it has no games anyway!
>well those games are available on other systems anyway!
Not to mention, it doesn't matter whether or not you think the games are good or not, it has a shitton of local multiplayer games. This thing is meant to be carried over to friend's houses and to social gatherings.
>>383930215
It's got an Ethernet port on the dock but it also plays over local wireless, not to mention pretty much every game on it has local multiplayer mode built in.
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Why would you release your game on a console where Nintendo games are constantly the top sellers and the console holder themselves own most of the advertisement space with no incentive to advertise other third parties? If there's one thing I give Sony credit for, they actually do give everyone a chance to be shown on their ad space.
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>>383912495
You're posting too much truth. Nu-/v/ will just post reaction images and do no debunking.
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>>383930558
Success?

Did we switch timelines or something? Cause last I checked the Switch was getting manhandled by the PS4.
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>>383930571
I suppose. Kinda feels wrong in a way, even though it is LAN.

>>383930657
Fair enough.
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>>383930732
>be retarded
>can,t see the writing on the wall

Sony pony, everyone
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>>383926346
It's an obvious joke you fucking retard
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>>383930112
>>383930437
Holy shit you sound like an immature brat. Calm down before you hurt yourself. Nintendo will still be making hardware and amazing games for decades to come. Try and breathe.
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>>383930437
Hahahaha could you post a pic of your girlfriend tho? Bitches love Nintendo. PS4 is for actual man babies who think "I'm so mature I can't play that BING BING WAHOO shit. Right cool kids in high school? Did I make the joke right?"
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>>383930832
Your fanboy tears will sure be delicious in a couple months.
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>>383930573
>literally who YouTubers
>image made before the launch
Amazing. Sonygroes that try to console war are so out of touch.
>>383930437
Damn, when I asked who hurt you I didn't expect you to get this mad. Sorry a video game console didn't turn out the way you wanted it so now you have to shitpost about how much you hate it for hours on a Mongolion cave painting forum.
You could have spent this time practicing your art, but instead you cry salty tears over a console you won't even buy while screaming that you're an adult.
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>>383930912
Nope, but here's a gif of my ex.
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>>383930387
It's a shame it's such a fucking awful porn because BL2 could probably be pretty nice experience on a handheld. God knows it's not worth playing at home.
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>>383912531
It literally takes time to make/port games to a console after it launches. Remember how the 3DS had no games around its launch? This is the same thing
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>>383930832
>posts PC
>gets called a Sony pony
Are you stupid or just pretending?
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>>383931074
Oh hey. I remember that thread.
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>>383930657
the goal post was that switch has no advantages over bringing in a ps4/pc other than switch being lighter, ps4 is as easy to transport, in $300 i could get a ps4 and screen, if someone will drop it doesnt matter because this could happen to switch too
>its durable
except anything could scrap its screen
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>>383910690
Cry more
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>>383930732
Yes, lets ignore their handheld sales right? Let ignore that /v/ has to invent conspiracy theories to account for the rave reviews of Nintendo's software. Let's ignore that the Switch has been sold out since launch. Let's ignore that Empire's list of best games if 2017 so far has 3 Switch titles in the top 10.

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/best-games-2017/

An actual child.
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>>383926325
Vita might be a dead piece of weebshit, but It had and still has toon of weebshit support.
So not even close.
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>>383931074
Hahahahha that chick looks like one of those scenester 14 year olds who cuts herself and shit. She's not even hot.
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>>383931337
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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>>383931261
I'll assume you meant scratch there, but that's why you buy a $5 screen protector off of Amazon.
If you really think a PS4 that you have to carry with both hands is comparable to a Switch which weighs almost fucking nothing and requires minimal setup, I honestly don't know what to say to you other than that you're delusional.
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>>383931337
>Let's ignore that the Switch has been sold out since launch
Not in Europe to be fair.
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>>383927272
Go back to NeoGAF and stay there with the other Sony dick garglers.
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>>383911665
>weeb shit in games list
>le funny nintenbro meme image
>cherrypicking bad apples in the community making threads that are obviously bait
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>>383931337
Who the fuck are Empire? Never heard about them before.
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>>383931379
>6/10 would not bang
We used to play Smash together anon, so a dildo like you woulda loved her. Too bad she hates betas. Like most women in fact.
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>>383931337
DELETE THIS ASSHOLE. NINTENDO IS FAKING SUPPLY CONSTRAINTS AND SONY IS BEATING THEM FAIR AND SQUARE
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>>383931337
That list also contains Thimbleweed Park, Planescape: Torment - Enhanced Edition and What Remains Of Edith Finch, I wouldn't use it to defend the Switch.
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>>383931507
>>383931935
This shit isn't funny on either sides of the fence. Falseflagging is just annoying.
>>383931583
Europe has never been Nintendo's market unfortunately, they haven't been able to get a foothold in ever since last gen when PS4 became the dedicated Fifa machine after M$ shot themselves in the foot.
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>>383931753
>Who the fuck are Empire? Never heard about them before.

Says this unironically. I bet you wonder who TIME magazine is too.
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>>383931901
Kek dude I wouldn't be surprised if she killed herself. I would prolly bang her, it looks like it wouldn't be hard. I'm just saying she's clearly underage and depressed which is prolly the only reason she was with you.
Call me when you get a normal gf.
You can call me beta all you want. I know you're just a sad salty both xD.
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>>383931337
Yeah the first place I look for video game advice is Empires movies section.
Fucking Thimbleweed Park is on there for fuck sake.
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>>383931901
At least he's not the one that keeps posting his old internet GF he met on a Smash forum on 4chan.
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>>383910690
Nintendo has had a shit attitude towards 3rd party devs since Gamecube.

It's really like a teenager who was told he was amazing and super smart by his parents when he was a kid, so it got up to his head and as a teenager the kid became dumb and rebellious as fuck because his parents convinced him he was a flawless human being.

For too long, nintendo held the gaming crown, and itstill hasn't realized it lost it ages ago.

So they treat their 3rd party devs like shit, as if they should feel honored to be making games for a nintendo console instead of the other way around. They keep a fuckload of secrecy around the console while it's being developed, hand out incomplete dev kids, have ridiculous fees and requirements and they always hand everything at the last possible second. Several developers have complained about how nintendo keeps them in the dark until its too late, that's why nobody wants to develop for them
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>>383930437
>Overpriced tablet
>Literally posted from his $2000 "gaming" tablet.

Mate.
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>>383932262
She's 25 now, was 21 when I met her, and 23 when I broke up with her. She was also bipolar type 1 (the manic type), which is why I called it quits. She was one of those legit gamer girls, and a massive Nintendo fangirl. You probably couldn't fuck her though, because you're likely the sort of dude who talk hot shit, but can't really handle nor is redpilled about women, and if you did, it wouldn't be much of an accomplishment. Bipolar girls have a high sex drive and tend to be promiscuous.
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>>383931583
It has been selling out in major European markets. It's only remained in stock in countries with economies so unhealthy that the retail price is higher than scalper prices.
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>>383932503
I do it cause it gets me (you)s.

I'd post other girls, but I gotta admit, I do like that gif.
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>>383932128
No I know if Time. Can't say I know much about English film entertainment magazines though. I don't even know of the ones in my own country since I'm not 30+ years old.
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>>383932653
That's the thing I don't get about the "overpriced tablet" meme. Calling it a "tablet" just makes it look like a bargain at $300.
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>>383932653
>gaming tablet
It's a professional drawing tablet... m8
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>>383911367
But Bloodborne wasn't a day one release.
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>>383910690
Everyone is waiting to see if "shortages" was real or bullshit, because this thing is hovering at like 4m and selling abysmally -- like 150k a week or some shit at this point.
3rd party has been tanking on Nintendo since GC-era, so it's hard to justify throwing down cash/manpower to port/develop to a tiny install base that may or may not grow. Also it's been stated that the thing is a bitch to work on.
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>>383932660
Haha wait what
>yes she is a mentally ill scenester girl
>you couldn't fuck her cuz she's hot shit
>you prolly could fuck her she's a slut
I am laughing so hard at your life why are you bragging about your ex? Move on dude I bet you never even met her in real life. Date a girl who is not crippligly mentally ill next time...
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>>383930573
>Dreams for PS4
>Ever releasing
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>>383932086
>>383932745
NOT sold out in other words.
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>>383918015
Yes, in the same way I disagree with a child that hands me a kinda flat glob of mud with rocks on it and calls it a pizza. Nintendo knows damn well how to make a home console that can compete with others in the market. They did that up until 2007 while still managing to hold the handheld market firmly by the balls.

The current management has just seen fit to try and reinvent the wheel without perfecting the foundation. For example, motion controls with the Wii were not a bad idea but they needed a considerable amount of tinkering before third parties were comfortable enough to start designing games around them Problem is that about that time, Nintendo decided it was time to unveil yet another gimmick and further increase the difficulty to third party game devs. Once they finally started getting used to touchscreen and motion controls as they were, nintendo decided to fuck up the formula once again.

tl;dr Nintendo doesn't have third party stuff like the PS4 or XB1 because they can't stick to a traditional control setup which makes it harder on devs to design for.
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>>383933018
Hey man, scene girls are hot.
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>>383931582
you are the only one delusional here, pc weight doent matter because people dont care, lan parties existed way before switch and will exists even after it will get dropped. you bought a console whichs only advantage is on the go, its pretty shit reason to pay $300 for no games
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>>383933573
this. If you're going to pay $300 min for a console, pay for one that is a lot closer to the power of a PC rather than a tegra meme machine that would have only been nice back in 2009
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>>383933573
And you just going to keep circling around the same disproved arguments?
I listed games before.
>>383933730
>pay 300 to play bing bing wahoo games and for portability
>pay 800-1200 for a laptop that will burn out in a few years
Gee. I'm not sure if you guys are shitposting or just retarded.
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>>383933914
If you're spending $300 base for just a console that doesnt even have modern power, you're just as stupid as the people who buy gaming laptops.
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>>383933914
>not realizing you can pay $500 for a laptop that can play most games prior to 2010.
>a laptop can also do anything a switch cannot do, such as surf the web, use microsoft office, and everything a PC does better than a console
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>>383933914
all of these game, besides arms, can be played on other platforms and are better on them, even laptops, and when you have a laptop you actually can play thousands of lan games, also
>implying you swich wont burn after 3 years
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>>383910690
plenty of games :)
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>>383934050
>graphical power on a console
>mattering
If you want pretty FourrrrKAYYY grafix play on PC, asking for that on a console is asking for suffering.
The Switch can make games look beautiful as long as the devs use the technology at their disposal well. BotW looks pretty bad in comparison to most native Switch games due to being a port.
>>383934156
That's what you have a PC and a Smartphone for Anon.
>>383934251
>implying it will
What proof do you have?
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>>383910690
i feel even nintendo is somewhat hesitant to make games for it
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>>383934306
>The Switch can make games look beautiful as long as the devs use the technology at their disposal well. BotW looks pretty bad in comparison to most native Switch games due to being a port.
That screenshot looks better than BotW because it's a bullshot. You can tell because it's 1080p with no jaggies on a console that can't handle AA even on 900p games
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>>383934270
I feel bad for Switch owners.
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>>383933424
It didn't take long at all for third-parties to figure out how to use touch screens and motion control. Trauma Center, Ace Attorney, Feel the Magic, and Elebits all came out pretty quickly on the consoles they were released on. One of the defining points of the DS was "easy to develop for", and it had a pretty high amount of third-party games. There was no specific need for third-parties to use the new controls schemes, either. Both Nintendo and third-parties made games that used mainly traditional controls.
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>>383934554
why?
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>>383934496
you act like all games are equally graphically demanding...?
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>>383934306
>>What proof do you have?
as much as you do for laptop you retard, im not the one who started this screeching
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>>383934601
Cause they almost only have ports. Even the Vita had more exclusives.
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>>383934496
The reason it's 1080p with no jaggies is because they know how to establish an artstyle that brings the most out of the Switch's power.
The last time I checked, the only console promoting bullshots was the PS4...
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>>383934691
graphics are demanding, when switch's game looks better than average ps4 game then its pretty obvious its a bullshot, switch cant handle such graphics
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>>383934721
>muh ports

dude, Vita's been out for how long?
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>>383934306
>The Switch can make games look beautiful as long as the devs use the technology at their disposal well
So giving little ass content in small distances cause the switch cant handle more than five AI objects at a time and distance rendering is shit? Yeah, sure love my mobile tier games. Thank you based Nintendo
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>>383910690
Do third parties even sell well on Nintendo consoles? The Wii had a tonne of third party support but nobody bought them, the bestselling third party game sold a mere 2 million.That console still sold like crazy
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>>383934828
>graphics are demanding
okay...

>looks better than average ps4 game
how did you determine this?
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>>383934887
>developers learning to work intelligently within constraints and not throwing a bunch of unnecessary shit in your face is now a bad thing
The absolute state of nu-/v/ and anti-Switch posters.
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>>383934806
you already forgot about switch's main title?
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>>383934871
Well ports won't make me want to buy a console. I would feel bad if that was all I was given.

And I was talking around the launch window. Switch has what, Arms and that Racing game nobody played?
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>>383934270
>pc ports
>wii u ports
>FUCKING minecraft
not a dingle exclusive there
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>>383935095
>nobody played Fast RMX

get a load of this pleb
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>>383935089
>game built for the Wii U then ported to the Switch late into development without much time to refine it versus games built up for the Switch natively
Notice how native Switch games (MK8D, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2) all look great?
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>>383935062
programming for nintendo consoles suck these days. You have to go through a million hoops for a semblance of power that may be there when you can just make a game for superior hardware and not be stuck in 2005 tech standards.
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>>383935095
Ports of a system nobody bought and has been put out to pasture. Oh well.

Also BOTW is the GOTY and it's just a dual release. Also I don't recall the Vita having a killer launch lineup either...
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>>383934806
Yeah because Ubisoft have never downgraded games before, no sir. They know Nintendo hardware like it's nobody's business.
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>>383935095
Yes because the PS4 was booming with games that weren't ports for the first 3 years of it's life wasn't it.. oh wait
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>>383935289
mk8 is a wii u port, theres as much native in it as is in zelda, odysey is not even out, could be a bullshots
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>>383935589
>odyssey
>bullshots
>when actual gameplay videos exist
Amazing.
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>>383935670
actual gameplay videos existed for botw too, but they dont look like released product, but droning, someone maybe will fell for your lies
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>>383935276
Well almost nobody fucking talked about it that's for sure. It was all Zelda Zelda Zelda.

>>383935395
It didn't, but at least it had games unique to the system which I couldn't just get elsewhere.
>>383935492
And the PS4 library is shit what is your point? That the Switch library is also shit? I agree.
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>>383935449
>we're living in times when a cartoony artstyle is apparently so good it has to be a bullshot

lmao, pic related, a Wii U game
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>>383935181
And they STILL have more games than Bloodbornestation 4
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>>383935820
>It didn't, but at least it had games unique to the system which I couldn't just get elsewhere.

again, dead console. Also Graceful Explosion Machine/ARMS proves you wrong :)
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>>383935181
wii u's dead man. Who'd buy one now?
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>>383935930
So where's the exclusives?
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>>383935930
As I said. It has what, two exclusives? It's not exactly making me want to rush out and get it.
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>>383915274
>>383915856
Exclusively unavailable on the Switch.
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>>383935930
>wii u owners: 14m
:switch owners: 4m
yeap, its dead
>people didnt buy wii u game, but they surelly will but exactly the same games on the switch
sure
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>>383935893
ummm at least ps4 has 1 game
try again sweaty ;)
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>>383936142
>ARMs isn't a game because reasons
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>>383936101
Literally just told you

>>383936115
Still better than the Vita launch lineup tho

>>383936138
now this is just fucking dumb lol, especially when you remember BOTW had literally over a 100% attach rate for the Switch.

That said, comparing sales numbers between a console that's completed its lifecycle against one that's just starting out(and not to mention facing supply constraints) is absurd.
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>why isn't nintendo's pathetically outdated gimmick hardware not getting third party support from developers that want to make a game which looks and runs like it was made in the last decade and isn't a piece of shit laughing stock by every current standard

HMMM LET'S HAVE A THINKY WINKY ABOUT THIS HMMM I WONDER WHY I DON'T KNOW IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE HMMMMMMM WHY HMMMMM CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER
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>Switch released four (4) months ago
>/v/ has been absolutely hammering it with criticism for no reason despite it having a better first year launch lineup than any console this generation or last generation
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>>383936349
>ARMS
>exclusive

Nintenbros absolutely seething
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>>383936418
ARMS isn't an exclusive?
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>>383936349
it had 100% attach rate because nintenbros are fucking retarded, i bet 99% of the wii u owners bought switch even when the only reason to get wii u was exclusive zelda in the first place, they are that retarded
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>>383936475
>LITERALLY seething
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>>383936418
yup lol.

>hurr this game is just like this completely different game on another console even though it's completely different so it doesn't count!!

I guess Bloodborne doesn't count either, so tell me, what interesting unique exclusives does the PS4 have again?
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>>383935868
That's a bullshot you fucking idiot
Rendering a game at 4k+ and then downsampling it is a form of bullshoting. It enhances details and removes jaggies
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>>383935868
Captian Toad is also in 720p and developed by Nintendo.
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>>383936523
>unsubstantiated bullshit

nice talking to 'ya :)
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>>383936542
>Bloodborne doesn't cont

Wew
e
w
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>>383936396
If the switch was a proper console, had more quality games, and wasnt having an artificial shortage, I would give it more respect. But after the Wii shit, Nintendo doesnt give a shit about the gamer anymore, at least the ones who gave a shit. They just make games for casuals and families now.
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>Another Consolewar thread

All of you fuck off, both consoles are amazing in different areas and thats what make them great.

Except for XBONE, What a shit excuse for a console.
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>>383936626
keep living in denial ninbro
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>>383936554
LMAO, I didn't know the Wii U was so powerful it produced games that apparently look so good they must be bullshots
>>383936625
>Captian Toad is also in 720p

So it should have more jaggies should it not
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>>383936636
why would it count while ARMS doesn't? BB is just a rehash of a Souls game you know...
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>>383936703
irony lol
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>>383936668
Sorry you're so cynical that you can't enjoy anything, anon.
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>>383936747
Arms is another generic as shit fighting game that everyone already forgot about

Bloodborne is the best game of this console generation
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>>383910690
Nintendo should just stop making garbage consoles and become a third party game developer. The only reason people bother with their shitty gimmick machines is because the games are good.
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>>383936831
Im sorry your standards are so low that you can enjoy shit
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>>383936349
The Vita had Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Wipeout, Dynasty Warriors, Silent Hill and Katamari exclusives though. Which is more than two games.
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>>383936882
>Bloodborne is the best game of this console generation

but how could that be when BOTW just dropped?
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>>383936882

You're usually supposed to answer a query with a credible statement, not with convincing the opposite party that you're a lunatic. Debating is not that hard. Try again.
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>>383936882
>Bloodborne is the best game of this console generation

The absolute state of this generation that a generic weeaboo hack and slash is the best game to come out of it
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>>383936951
And yet the Switch still has a better library already
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>>383936981
botw is wii u gen, its a ps2 era
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>>383936930
>Complains about the Wii despite it having a strong lineup of first party games, even if Nintendo held to the waggle gimmick too much
>ugh... so betrayed...
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Nintendo treated third parties like shit for decades, now its their turn.
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>>383937069
>And yet the Switch still has a better library already
what library?
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>>383937137
>buying console for horsepower "/

portability
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>>383936732
>I didn't know the Wii U was so powerful it produced games t
A Wii U did not produce that image. It is a media promotional image of the game, aka a bullshot

Just like this image wasn't made on a Switch. Switch isn't even capable of rendering above 1080p
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>>383936732
>So it should have more jaggies should it not
Depends on the size of the monitor you play it on. But for most people it will be jaggy, yes.

But the most notable fact remains is, it's a Ubisoft game and not a Nintendo game. And unless I'm mistaken, Ubisoft managed to make fucking Tetris lag on a PS4.
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>>383910690
>Japan is ignoring it
>Releases NicoNico app

Sure, OP
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>>383937173
>defending wii's first party games

fucking kek. it was the weakest shit in existence and the Wii U followed
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>>383937192
the one that's better than the Vita.

>uh oh all these games are also on a dead system so i guess that means it doesn't count

Vita also had proprietary memory
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>>383937325
again. what library
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>>383936981
>>383936992
>>383937009
>the absolute state of nintenbros

You guys are just eternally anally ravaged at this point aren't toy?
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>>383937069
That is beside the point. I still feel sad for Switch owners because their exclusive library consists of 2 games.
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>>383937282
okay
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>>383937280
NicoNico isn't games.
Even the PS4 is outselling it in the east.
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>>383937432
snipperclips is a collection of MULTIPLE games, its not 2
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>>383936690
You dropped something. ;)
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>>383937432
>only exclusives count

nah. And again, portability
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>>383937497
>all those shit tier games
>even including punch out

Like I said, weakest line up in Nintendo history
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>>383937325
>p4g
>gravity rush
>technika tune
>a million jrpgs
>vanillaware games
>a million bemani games
>great indie stuff like shovel knight, meat boy, binding of isaac

>hurr vita has no games its dead lol shit system switch is so much better IT HAS ZELDA!!!!!!!!!

fucking retard
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>>383937623
>Posts Naruto
>Thinks he has taste
>>
If the Switch is so shit why do Sonybros constantly have to remind us. Surely everyone would already know
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>>383937693
Right, but the Switch still has a better launch library :)
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>>383937743
>not liking gangsta version of Hinata

your fucking loss
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>>383937693
>>p4g
Why does this count but Mario Kart Deluxe doesn't?
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>>383937746
because watching nintendies justify a codons teresting with no games is never not bookstores
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>>383935089
That's an early build of the game. The final wii u version looks the same as the switch but in lower resolution.

Lying on the Internet. For shame.
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>>383937616
im yet to find a single person who used switch outside, all these kids in he park, on the bike, where are the they? people dont care about portability, its a meme
>inb4 go outside
lel
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>>383937813
it is really though?
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>>383937558
Three exclusives. But at least that is more than 2.

>>383937616
>only exclusives count
It does for me when it comes to the launch window of a new console. And fuck playing video games on the move, it sucks.
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>>383937861
what are you even trying to say
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>>383937746
Im a PC fanatic, but you switch fags are pretty vocal for a platform that has no idea whether its a handle or a home console, and has some pretty shitty games, one of them having shitty frame rate at launch. 10/10 game my ass.
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>>383937693
hardcore Nintendo fanboys aren't real gamers, they pretend to play games, their sole purpose for their being in this hobby is to support Nintendo, fucking strange I know but if it's one thing I learned, never talk about games with real hardcore dedicated Nintendo fanboys, they don't care about games, only giving money to Nintendo.

You know you've spoken to a real Nintendo fan when he shits on the Vita while applauding the Switch, don't bother they are brain dead and don't actually play or enjoy video games.
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>>383937891
portability means more than just being able to take it outside
>>
Because nintendo knows what kind of product they are making. For a few generations now nintendo platform are meant for kids and as a complementary system for people who own another system already. They are not competing with sony/microsoft or the PC market, they are tagging along for people who own one of them already while parents also pick up nintendo systems for their children.
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>>383937623
Still better than the Switch to be fair.
>>
The bad blood goes back to the beginning with the NES, nintendo seal of approval only meant that it was fucking developers and publishers in the ass. It didn't stop shitty games from being made, it made sure that all the third parties were operating how nintendo wanted them to operate.

Genesis offered a much more open platform which saw a ton of publishers and developers switch sides. However Nintendo's brand at this point was pretty strong so not every third party dev jumped over and it was relatively even.

Nintendo's brand meant absolute jackshit during the n64 and ps2 days and got crushed. It was even worse during the xbox, ps2 and GC days.

The wii was the first console where it sold well and had third party support, but that was jumping onto extremely marketable gimmick. While it did get third party support, most of it was shovel ware. The wii-u was continuing the trend that started with the SNES/N64.

Who knows how the switch will do, its highly marketable but will it get actual third party support or shovel ware?
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>>383937942
>Nintendo this ravaged
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>>383916115
>Meanwhile, there's nothing but an SNES port of SF2 on Switch. That's about the entirety of Switch's third-party for this year.
>Bomberman
>Rabbids
>SF2
>WWE
Announced
>SMT
>NMH3
>Square RPG
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>>383937913
>It does for me

that's nice sweetie :)
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>>383937987
Well I agree. Nintendo has been on decline since the snes.
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>>383937861
Not even meming, what did he actually mean by this?
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>>383937974
so you bought portable device for $300, you are paying $60 for its games and $20 a year just play while shitting? it sure was worth it
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>>383937581
It's true though.
Nintendo Switch is much more portable than the PS4 if you don't have a Vita.
PS4 has much more amazing Graphics
Nintendo Switch has an Amazing lineup of exclusives.
The same goes with PS4 with Exclusives.
Nintendo has better Online with Switch Online and MyNintendo.

And also, The switch just Launched. Don't compare a Console that just came out with a Current Gen Console that was launched 4 years ago.
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>>383938204
>Nintendo Switch has an Amazing lineup of exclusives

still waiting on them exclusives instead of ports.
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>>383938204
>Nintendo Switch has an Amazing lineup of exclusives

SEETHING
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>>383938179
>it means more than being able to play outside
>t-ttthat means you only play it while on the toilet !!1

The absolute state of Sonygers rn, fuck you people are pathetic
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>>383937581
>Someone actually wasted their time making this
Sure is Neogaf in here
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>>383938078
Thank you?
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>>383938387
sure
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>>383938291
But anon, ARMS came out last month, and Splatoon 2 launches in a week :)
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>>383938314
ok, explain other possible usages
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>>383938291
BOTW is a dual release, not a port, so

Then there's games like Snipperclips and ARMS and Graceful Explosion machine...?
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>>383938432
Mind you I'm not sure what you expected when my post was "I feel bad about Switch owners". Kinda suggest subjectivity does it not?
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>>383938439
Hee said exclusives admin
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>>383910690
Because it's cheaper to port a PC/ PS4/ XBOX1 game to the other two platforms than making only one Switch port, and third parties are obviously interested in putting their games in the most platforms possible.
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>>383938595
But they are exclusive :)
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>>383938291
s0nyggers still have pretend that Nintendo exclusives don't count as exclusives.
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>>383938478
tabletop mode, sweetheart.

>>383938546
I expected autism and that sure is what I got
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>>383910690
>Why isn't this getting any third-party support? Even Japan is ignoring it.

>Japanese developers
>EVER making games for non-Sony systems

Japan abides by the prison bitch law. The alpha dog gets all the bitches, and only the alpha dog. That's why Sony is literally fucking invincible, it's why the PS3 won in the end despite a bad start, it's why the PS4 is murdering the PC, Xbone,and Wii U without even fucking TRYING.

Sony is Japan. Japan is Sony.
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>>383938702
>tabletop mode
Now that is just silly anon.
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>>383938291
>>383938310
ARMS, Splatoon 2, Bomberman, Prime 4, Yoshi 2018, Kirby 2018, Mario Oddysey, and a lot more coming in 2017 according to Reggie.

The same goes with PS4.
Persona 5, Crash N-Sane, Final Fantasy XII Remaster, Yakuza, Kingdom Hearts, Spiderman, and Death Stranding.

There is so much stuff to be excited for in both systems Lineups, so stop bitching about which one's lineup is better. They are both good in different ways.
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>>383938545
>its not a port, its a dual release cause Nintendo
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>>383938772
no, the PS3 didn't win
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>>383938702
>>tabletop mode, sweetheart.
you mean kinect on small screen?
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>>383938702
>I expected autism and that sure is what I got
Glad to helped out.
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>>383938927
>according to Reggie.
according to reggie, we were also suppose to get following

>a fucking physics engine even included kek
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>>383938884
no it isn't

>>383938946
no, because it's a dual release. It was developed concurrently for both systems.
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>>383938772
If Japan was Sony than the Vita would have survived instead of flopping. Now Japan has a shiny new handheld and it's sold out literally everywhere, and just getting one is a trial.
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>>383910690
It's a pain in the ass to develop for
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>>383938702
but where do you play in that tabletop mode? not outside, not on the toilet? maybe near tv? no that cannot be possible
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>>383939173
...on a table. Basically I can play the switch anywhere inside or outside my house and that's pretty neat.
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>>383939037
Are you retarded? They just mean that they are working with Nintendo to make games for the switch. They didn't mention exclusives, ports, etc, and Unity stated that they are working to make Unity Engine work on Switch.
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>>383939051
i-it's a dual release!
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>>383939260
yup, sorry to shatter your narrative you can stop making these threads now :)
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>>383939260
>wojaks
As expected of Neofags
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>>383937212
That image was never released as a screenshot of the game. It was part of a set Nintendo released to show the world design. They included a set of gameplay screenshots in the same package. This was all before the Switch version was even a factor.
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>>383939260
Assblasted.
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>>383938678
>those
>exclusives

O I am laffin
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>>383939245
so you play on small screen even when theres a tv near you, got it, now i understand why portability is really necessary while playing on the switch
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>>383939372
>That image was never released as a screenshot of the game
just like the first e3 preview of Botw?
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>>383939037
They're clearly divided between game publishers and engine creators. They're sorted into two alphabetical lists, with publishers ending at "Wwise" and engine makers starting at "Autodesk."
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>>383939524
no, that just means i don't have to play it on my TV if I don't want, but stay salty
>>
Switch is looking to sell around 10 million this year, so third parties are certainly going to start taking a more serious look at it.

Though with most new games being designed around the hardware offered in the PS4/Xbone (or even the Pro/X) it means there are only two real ways to develop for the switch. Offer significant cut downs on multiplat titles, or make the investment to make totally unique titles for the switch.

Luckily it looks like the Switch's development costs are fairly low. And third parties could probably fill gaps with ports of last generation titles. It could be pretty amazing to have GTA5 or Sleeping Dogs on the switch after all.
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>we live in a time where JAPANESE DEVELOPERS
>developers from a country where Nintendo is from
>and was effectively responsible for cultivating the video game industry there 30 years ago
>view PC
>the platform that has the LOWEST software sales
>the platform that has the LOWEST profit per game ratio
>the platform that has the HIGHEST piracy rate
>the platform that is completely and utterly irrelevant for Japanese software
>as a more viable platform than anything Nintendo has made
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>>383910950
>Same as PS4
HAHAHA
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>>383938927
>excited for Metroid Prime: PNG Title Screen we know nothing about, Crash "Pointless Remake" N-Sane Trilogy, A remaster by modern Square of an incredibly mediocre jrpg, Kingdom Hearts, Spiderman: An even worse looking and more cinematic Batman, and MGSV starring that guy from Walking Dead
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>>383938927
>those lazy excuses for exclusives

Nintendies are never going to receiver ate they?
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>>383910690
I'm sure third parties will port lots of 360 games to it.
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>>383911367
ps4 had literally NOGAMES day one
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>rip off the psp
>right down to the better performance when plugged into power

innovation
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>>383939836
you act like sony exclusives are anything to write home about
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>>383939656
you use that portability just to justify its existence, you dont go outside with it, you dont shit with it, you play portable in your basement near tv, and all you play on it are wii u ports, i pity your life, living to defend shit company thats shits on you
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>>383939915
Bloodborne alone shits on anything in you list
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>>383910690
I guess it's your first Nintendo console since the super nintendo.
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>>383910690
>Wii doesn't get much good third party support
>WiiU doesn't get that good third party support
>Switch isn't getting good third party support

Dude what the fuck how totally unexpected.
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3DS wasn't doing so hot until Monhun and Pokemon showed up.
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>>383939660
>Switch is looking to sell around 10 million this year, so third parties are certainly going to start taking a more serious look at it.
The Wii U sold that many too. Look where it is.
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>>383939918
wow nice strawman. So saying that its neat to be able to play it anywhere around the house means i only play it in front of my TV? Do you even leave your basement?

>>383940026
We've already ruled that out as it's just a Souls rehash and thus non exclusive, read the thread...
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>>383910690
>buying any Nintendo system post GC for third party games
TOPKEK

With that being said, Switch is already in a way better place than the Wii U---even though the neckbeards of /v/ will not care, the fact EA is supporting the Switch with Fifa and 2K is putting NBA 2K18 out is important signs of vitality. That coupled with every indie game on Steam posturing towards re-releasing on Switch and Nintendo's stellar 1st party output this year (Zelda, MK8D, Mario Odyssey, ARMS,Snipperclips, Splatoon 2) makes the Switch an already tempting purchase...if you can find one.
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>>383910690
Just how quickly do you think games can be made? Devs only found out it was a viable platform instead of a Wii U bomba a few months ago.

I fully expect Japanese 3rd party support to come, and shitloads of Western indie support. Not holding my breath for Western AAA support though.
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>>383940132
Wii U didn't have any portability
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>>383940173
>le doesn't count

Nintendies will never recover
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>>383940104
We can greentext battle over what you mean by "good" but the Wii had TONS of 3rd party support. See things like CoD, FIFA/all sports, and tons of ports, etc. Not always the best way to play them, but devs were thirsty for the big dick of Nintendo in 2006-2009.
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>>383940302
nope, that was because sonyfolk wanted to exclude certain nintendo titles, so you can chalk that one up to them
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>>383940280
Wii U did have portability. As long as you had an outlet anywhere, which are now on buses and plans, you could play it on the go anytime. That was one of its best features. I got to play Paper Mario cross country thanks to that.
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>>383940173
literally every nintendo game is a rehash, but bloodbourne dosent count?
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>>383940104
>didn't get a Wii because not much good third party support
>didn't get a Wii U because not much good third party support
>don't want a Switch because not much good third party support

>tfw I haven't bought a Nintendo console in 18 years
/v/ really likes to screech on about the exclusives but for me the third party titles are equally as important, I want a console that can play most console games out there
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>>383940434
lol no it didn't
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>>383930387

Jesus, why did they even bother?
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>>383940426
>np yippy

SEETHING
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>>383940129
Oh wow, I'd almost forgot that first year or so when the 3DS was a massive failure.
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>>383915613

One of the dumbest things I've ever read here

Congrats
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>>383940473
>literally every nintendo game is a rehash

Keep telling yourself that kiddo.
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>>383940434
But it could never truly replace the 3DS line as it's portability was highly dependent on external factors (outlets, ability to lung a ten pound hunk of plastic and a tablet controller, etc).
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>>383940523
Yes it did. In addition, because of the low battery of the switch, Ive seen all my friends always hook it to a power outlet or having to set it in the dock between playtimes because it doesnt hold power for too long. The Wii U is the same thing as the Switch, just rebranded.
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>>383940481
you mean sonyponigs like to screech on exclusives so they have a reason to defend their shit
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>>383940421
And they were bad ports and devs also stopped paying attention later on
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>>383940632
lol no, it really didn't.

>hook it to a power outlet or having to set it in the dock between playtimes

I mean sure
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>>383940646
No. I mean all of /v/. If I only meant Sony fanboys I would have said Sony fanboys.
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>>383940628
People plugged their 3ds into outlets, too. The 3ds win based on being less of a problem to carry around, but the Switch at the moment has nothing to make it competitive with the Wii U. Especially since the Wii u's library is bigger, has miiverse, actual online, and an online browser.
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>>383940473
Don't v bother. Nintendies ate do blow the fuck or that they can't even see Stuart anymore ntasy to just ignite then sms discuss admittedly good games
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>>383940776
no, you pretty much just meant Sony fans given only Sony fans argue about it
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>>383940646
Everybody who doesn't like nintendo consoles isn't a sonybro. Nintendo and sony can both fuck off
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Guys, calm down, we can talk about this later once the Atari Box comes out. For now, lets just feel the groove!
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>>383940270
except games are only announced and switch wont get them, even ue4 games that are literally one button click to release switch version wont be on the switch, its not a matter of how hard is to port it to switch, devs just dont want their games on that shit
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>>383940760
How powerful is the switch compared to the wii u?
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>>383919374
>bomberman
>2017
Holy kek
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>>383940886
how portable is it???
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>>383940626
keep deluding yourself dad
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>>383920149
I live in one of those places and I have never ever seen a nintendo product after GC and GBAs died down.
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>>383940862
No. I mean all of /v/. If I only meant Sony fanboys I would have said Sony fanboys, since unlike you I actually browse /v/.
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>>383940962
I dont care. If the market is currently 3ds vs wii u vs switch, what makes the switch better than the wii u and what makes it better than the 3ds that either of those have/ dont have?

Why would I pay more for an inferior wii u with less games and less features, and the same for paying for a handheld when the current handheld has a solid library, better battery life, and has a built commuity? As a consumer, the switch is a waste of space right now.
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>>383940852
..... What?
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>>383941086
why's wetting nintenkiddy, plain English to dictator choir you?
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>>383940882
Once again, how long do you think it takes to make games?
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Japanese devs won't care about it unless the install base gets a lot bigger and japanese people actually use it as a portable, which so far isn't working out so good due to its size vs other popular portable shit in japan.
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>>383941230
you think devs started making games for switch in march? any game could be available on release if anyone cared about it, new dbz could be released for switch along with other versions, i wonder why it isnt
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The problem with rhe Switch is that it's been known for less than a year and nu/v/ is filled with 10 yearolds who think actual good video games get made in a month tops.
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>>383941420
Because devs only found out the switch was SUCCESSFUL after March. Anyone would be cautious of the successor to the Wii U.
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>>383941542
>Because devs only found out the switch was SUCCESSFUL after March
>successful
>despite not having enough to sell to be successful

ironic. almost like journalists are spinning it for nintendo's benefit
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>>383918307

This meme only started when the Switch came out and surprise, it started with nintentoddlers getting triggered that their system is an even shitter and worse gimmick than their last 2 consoles.
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>>383941542
dev here.

We won't really consider it successful unless it's still doing great in September, and even then we are gonna be cautious until march next year.

Wouldn't be the first system to do fine off the gate and then eat shit after. Too much money to jump in early.
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>>383941440

To be fair, so many western games get released all buggy and unfinished you'd think they were made in less than a year. So I can see where the assumption comes from.
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>>383910690
Switch will never get xbox/playstation multiplat it's too underpowered. Don't expect to get games like DOOM or Dishonored 2 on your fancy Nintendo tablet.
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>>383912495
Splatoon would outsell Call of Duty if it were multiplatform.
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>>383941745

So if it's a success by March would you even support it?
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>>383942006
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>>383941745
another dev here. the ue setting is at the lowest with the switch and even then shit still lags. I honestly hate that Nintendo went with the tegra x1 instead of a more competitive chip like a pascal. Then again, I always said you cant make a console if you give it this small of a size. it doesnt work.
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>>383941604
It either outsells the PS4 or sells 5-10% less if it's particularly supply constrained. Is the PS4 not successful?

>>383941745
I wouldn't be surprised if there are devs other than you who still feel this way.

>Wouldn't be the first system to do fine off the gate and then eat shit after.
Actually I can't think of any examples. What systems do you have in mind? The Wii U only sold half decently during its first six weeks in the holidays; after that it completely fell off a cliff.
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>>383942006
No, fuck no. Screw that shit. Splatoon is a cuck game. So is CoD.
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>>383942106
The Wii U never touched the PS3 numbers. Unless the switch is less expensive or as expensive as a a 3ds and has just as many features or libraries, it will not be competitive in the console market.
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>>383942213
>The Wii U never touched the PS3 numbers
Yes, but how is that related to my post? The Wii U was an unmitigated failure.

>it will not be competitive in the console market.
All signs suggest it already is, at least sales-wise.
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>>383942349
The Wii U sold that many, too. Unless it breaks Wii U records and matches at least 75% of Ps4's current sales, not to mention having to compete with the Xbox, it wont be successful.

It'll be successful as far as Nintendokids are concerned because they only buy nintendo consoles, but it wont have wide appeal.
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>>383942449
>he Wii U sold that many,
Ok nintendies, whatever helps you sleep arty night
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>>383942449
The Xbox One hasn't sold even 50% of the PS4's sales in three years, and it's considered to be successful enough.
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>>383917656
That's because Nintendo is an extremely traditional Japanese company. I work at another traditional Japanese company with near the same exact business style. Japs really are dicks in general.
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>>383939051
It's a triple release with the best version on PC.
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>>383942449
>The Wii U sold that many, too
No, it did not. The Switch, by our best estimates, has sold about as many units after 4 months as the Wii U did in its first year. Without a holiday. And while being constantly sold out. Its sales are not remotely comparable to those of the Wii U.

>and matches at least 75% of Ps4's current sales
I suspect the Switch will, but regardless, that's not a realistic measurement of success, unless you consider systems like the SNES a failure.

>>383942597
I can't tell if you're trolling or just a confused console warrior arguing against his own side.
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>>383941080
>I dont care
I do
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>>383941080
>what makes the switch better than the wii u
The fact that the WiiU has been discontinued perhaps?
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>>383915862
>The Wii U launched with Mass Effect 3, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed 3, and CoD: Black Ops 2.
Bad, full-priced ports of games that came out at least a year ago bombed? What a surprise.
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>>383942449

>The Wii U sold that many

The fuck it did. The Switch is looking to outsell it in year one.
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>>383942859
>le console war

God it's always gotta be a pissing match over soothing with you assblasted tendies
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>>383917736
>NMH
>SMT
>big names

Only in Japan lol. Well, NMH not even in Japan.
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