>esports is a marketing term now Am I the only one that hates

Yes you are.

>>383899917
I really, really like this movie.

>>383899917
i agree

>>383899917
These limitations seem pretty arbitrary
The only thing a game needs to become an esport is people actually competing against each other in an organized fashion

>>383900093
Me too. It's a classic.

>>383899917
Also
>no demos/replays
>no modding
>no in-game server browser
When BF3's Battlelog came out, barely anyone took issue, why would did the players accept this shit?

>>383900192
Yes by definition that's true, but these are means to an end. If you don't have these means, I can't possibly see how you get to that end. Half my reasons revolve around stability in matches, broadcasting, and making the viewing experience fun. If the game's tournament view looks like a clusterfuck, then nobody is going to watch. Furthermore, the other points really play out with how fun a game can be to watch. If there's a skill ceiling or flow chart play style to the competitive mode, then it's just going to get really stagnant after a while.

>>383900093
>>383900196
They made a musical of it now.

>>383900267
>no demos/replays
>no modding
>no in-game server browser
Those are pretty terrible too. If you can't reasonably set up practice matches and games with other people outside of the server's queue, then it's pointless.

>When BF3's Battlelog came out, barely anyone took issue, why would did the players accept this shit?
Didn't everyone here sperg out over the battlelog browse bullshit?

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>>383900196
Yeah. Yesterday I watched Defending Your Life, I felt very good.
I don't know, something about the movies from this period, it gives me a really nice vibe.
Nostalgia, perhaps, but is very confortable.

>>383900415
Really? Movie or play?

>>383899917

There has definitely been an increased trend in the last 7 years or so to make every game the new esports tentpole upon release. The best competitive scenes are the ones that grow organically; they feature players with the most devotion and heart toward the game they are competitive in. When you force a game as an esport, you just wind up with a practically soulless spe rival and equally boring teams and players.

That being said, it can't go back to the way it was. Companies know that if they can establish a foothold in the new esports scene, it secures long term interest in their game, an additional revenue stream, and potential for sequels to perform well.

I mean, I competed in MLG for H1 before every kid started putting MLG in his username. I was watching street fighter tournaments during the dark ages. It's just a different world now, in some ways for better (increased interest, legitimacy, and money) and in many ways for worse.

>>383900481
Stage production.

> I only know this bc gf told me it didn't win any Tony's

>>383899917
Name one game that meets your standards. Protip: Starcraft and Quake do not.

Also, ults don't work like that in OW. Just saying.

>>383899917
Quake and CSGO are pretty flowchart and don't have any broadcasting tools. Healing items and powerups are for casuals.

>>383899917
except literally any game out there can be an esport if there's a prize pool
for example, if there was a 10 million dollar prize pool for Kirby air ride people would form teams and play that shit just as hard and competitively as DotA

>>383901852
>>>383901852
>>>>383900356
>>I get your point, but look at something like melee that's been a favourite esport for a decade or so, and it violates rules 1 and 3
Sequel to Air Ride never ever
Such a fun local coop game

>>383902027
Goddamn my browser is acting up, ignore the rest there

>>383899917
>cough overwatch cough