As short as the dlc was, you gotta admit this is one of the best

>>383892452
>not Gael

>xX_Darkflame666_Xx - iIIII ThE DeFiLeD SaInT IIIi -
>good fight

>>383892496
Gael was too, DUDE DO YOU REMEMBER DARK SOULS 1? THE BEST DARK SOULS EVER?

For me

>>383892452
On a sl1 playthrough, this fight is really good. The second phase is actually the hardest.

On a regular playthrough, it's not really something I look forward to due to how boring I find it mechanically

>>383892568
are you autistic or just incapable of forming an argument?

>>383892452
Yeah, she's probably my favorite boss fight from DS1-2-3.

>>383892568
The "Artorias-like" Cutscene I can understand, but Gael fights his own way, it's a fair fight, has great atmosphere, it's cured in the details and is fair but challenging.
It's probably Dark Souls 3 highest point.

the "Remember DS1???" is present in the whole game and it ruins it, I agree. However I think DS3 is worth playing through once even if only to encounter Gael.

>>383892452
3rd phase felt unnecessary, but it was definitely not a bad boss.

>>383892683
To expand on this, on the second phase, all you have to do is spank ariandels ass which makes for a boring fight. On a sl1 playthrough, you have to actually watch out for friede even though she's passive in this phase.

The third phase is never fun to me. It seems essentially waiting for friede to do a big AoE or her grab attack so you can backstab and then hold r2. Or just stunlock the fuck out of her.

Second phase is the only good thing about this fight and even then, it's only good if you handicap yourself

>>383892842
Third phase was there just to fuck with people I feel.
>fighting her at low SL
>takes a few deaths to get her patterns down in first phase
>get gangraped by her and papa ariandel in 2nd forever
>finally win with no estus left
>happy as fuck
>fucking black flames start up

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>that fucking edgelady bitch and her literal teleports behind you nothing personnel kid moves
I gotta admit NOTHING. Fuck you.

Midir was the best boss of DS3.

>multi-enemy boss
>teleports behind you, nothin personal

No thanks

>>383892804
Gale isn't just artorias, he has the moves of several other characters, and it just breaks his theme. Why would he wield lightning?

>>383892452
Most of the fight is just an uninteresting obstruction for Darkflame Friede who is mostly an exercise in learning how short the recovery window for her attacks is and when she pauses long enough for a backstab.
The real challenge is not tilting before then.
To elaborate on that: In the first phase her patterns aren't really that interesting and the poise/hyperarmor issue is just annoying and in the second phase the bosses don't synergize at all so you're mostly fighting Ariandel unless you get unlucky enough that Friede wants to butt in.

>>383892568
But that was the case for Friede as well since she references Priscilla so hard (but sucks at it just like every reference in 3).
>Barefoot (but no footprints)
>Turns invisible
>Scythe
>Pls leave (But through a bonfire because they fucked up painted world mechanics and didn't make the bonfires there disconnected from the main system)

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>>383892452
I think my main problem with the boss is all the phases has been done before and better in the past.

First phase is basically just Priscilla
O&S did the two man fight better
Third phase pretty much Lady Maria

It feels like a boss rush that becomes a war of attrition.
I did enjoy it though and the animations were great.

>>383893746
O and S did NOT do the two man fight better. This fight is much better as the 2 actually compliment each other in terms of moves

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>>383892452
>Maria again

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>>383892496
>Gael

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>>383893843
I only found them to be thematically complimentary, because most of the time I could just smack Ariandel around and every once in a while avoid some ice or hit Friede when she's about to heal.

Admittedly, I've only finished the fight once, so maybe I didn't get the full experience.

>>383893843
>Screeching giant colossus is big main target
>When at a distance all Scythe lady does is cast ice AoEs that barely do anything
>When you're close enough to her for her to scythe you then she's typically obscured by Ariandel which is the only real danger
>Ariandel covers large distances through the empty arena on his own due to his charge and Friede doesn't have noteworthy movement patterns of her own
>Does a major heal once halfway through the fight but you don't have to keep track of her to prevent it since there is both the glow and the audible vanishing noise

They don't compliment eachother that well compared to having to having to keep Ornstein & Smough in your field of view simultaneously while also endeavoring to separate them due to their disparate movement patterns in relation to the arena (like the pillars that can block Smough) and keeping out of the nooks and crannies of the arena yourself.

>>383892452
It felt uninspired because the series is getting stale. Wasn't bad though, but I'm glad Dark souls is over.

>>383893443
>breaks his theme
His theme is that he was a pawn just like you and has access to all the myriad bullshit the player character did. He's 99's in all stats every item in the game kind of faggot every souls build of effort ends up as.

>>383895652
>You can outrun him forever
>Once you kill the pygmy and confront Gael he is the slowest being in existence
>You're somehow supposed to believe that this total leglet was capable of relentlessly hunting down all bearers of the Dark Soul

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>ANY BOSS from DS3's DLCs
>gank bosses
>bosses with 999999999999999999999 health

>>383896962
Midir sens hes regards

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>>383892452
I've just finished the main story and the Ashes DLC, but I have to say I didn't really enjoy it much.

A lot of the bosses felt unoriginal, the ones that didn't required a gimmick to beat.

If I had to pick I'd say the hardest enemy in the game is the camera.

Intro to second phase was pretty kino

>>383892452
>3rd phase with dark soul flames around the place
that shit scared the crap out of me

>>383892452
>DUDE WE COPIED WORLD OF WARCRAFT LMAO

no.

>>383901069
what

>>383901069

The fuck does this even mean?

>>383901069
>Dark Souls is popular now so people come up with the most retarded reasons to hate things in it
Feels bad.

>>383892452
i liked that the boss had 3 phases.
bricks where shat when she got back up the second time, because that - to my knowledge - never happens in any of the other games.

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but we already fought her in BB

>Maria 2.0
I just stunned her to death once again. I hate bosses that stun.

>>383901720
>>383901753
But Freide is cuter

>>383901179
Probably because of all the AoEs.

>>383893443
he doesn't wield lightning
the lightning merely strikes the fragments of the dark soul that fly off of him

>>383901783
She didn't put her face close to mine so I like Maria better.

>>383892452
>Poorly made Maria ripoff
I wonder what would happen if das2 decided to put boss from the previous game with little changed moveset

p3 with just feels like bringing a knife to a gunfight. One of the worst things about DS3 is that the enemies don't play by the same rules as you do, like infinite stamina etc. I don't mind if NPCs in DS1 have a gazillion HP and deal 80% of you HP bar in one hit, but DS3 is so blatantly cheating at every corner it's like the NPCs play a different game than you do and can ignore all rules.

Also, multi-phase fights suck if the last phase is so much harder than the rest. Getting Nameless King off his drake is just a fucking chore. Running circles around the arena at Demon Prince for 5 minutes until you even see the boss gets tedious quickly. Friede's p2 is only tolerable because Ariandel acts as a feeder for you to get free hits in, otherwise p1 and p2 are a chore too. I wanted to like friede but that combo chasing you through half the fucking area and more stamina for attacking that you have for rolling is ridiculous. She has practically no openings, just because you can backstab her after 3 out of 20 moves doesn't make it much better. Bosses in DS3 general are all samey and just rely on the combos and no openings on most of their attacks gimmick to make them challenging.

Gael and Midir are great though.

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>>383902337

They bloated her with everything people find annoying about the series.
>automatically dashes away at arbitrary times denying you hits until you memorize the correct timing and recovery animations for her
>multiple phased fight padding the length when only the final phase actually becomes challenging after a few attempts
>massive wombo combo infinite stamina bullshit forcing you to do the boring tried and true stand far away and wait for certain attacks strategy
>you take damage on successful parries because fuck you
>delayed animations for attacks to keep you on your toes or in other words to keep you standing far away until she does attacks where you can guarantee damage on recovery unless you want to gamble a 50/50
That whole DLC was fucking annoying with the massive health bloat on enemies and all the giant open areas full of giant packs of enemies instead of interesting game design.

>>383902407
Midir is trash. It's an easy fight but turns into a battle of attrition due to his large amount of HP. His patterns are simplistic, easy to dodge, offer plenty of time to heal/attack between attacks and he never chains more than 2 together (following attacks up with tail swipe, charge or explosion). You're also fighting in an empty circle of giant proportions.

>>383893443
>Why would he wield lightning
he doesn't
and in the second phase if you walk him into the lightning strikes they damage him

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>>383903040
>and in the second phase if you walk him into the lightning strikes they damage him

>>383903098
but they do
until he does that red swarm AoE shit
then they only do 1 damage

>>383903098
>Hit Gael for 339
>Lightning hits him and damage counter goes up to 340

Oh anon

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>>383903160
>>383903259
>1 damage point
HOLY FUCK WOW

Phase 1 is just a less interesting version of phase 3, but its there to teach you mechanics later in the fight, so I guess it's fine
Phase 2 is a neat idea, but also a pretty big clusterfuck, with no good way to separate the bosses from each other. The double demon fight in TRC was a better version of this.
Phase 3 is really cool, bit fucking up means you need to do every thing again and I hate it more for that.

They should have either removed one of the phases or make phase 3 a separate but more difficult fight, because going through all of the phases agian every time you fuck up a little is just annoying, especially when you're on phase 3.

>>383903351
dumb spongeposter

>>383903351
He did say it does a ton, he just said it damages him. Which it does.

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I will never understand why the whole "dude remember DS1??" meme permeates all Dark Souls 3 threads.
I mean. That is LITERALLY what the series is about at all times. Showing things of the games before it as a cameo or meme dubious hint that the worlds collide with each other.

Dark Souls 1 is 90% composed of Demon Souls references. To the extent they have the same NPCs, the same areas and the same setup. Why is it a bad thing that DS3 then does the same thing drawing from DS1 and Blooborne?

>>383903915
Because making a reference to Anor Londo and putting Anor Londo in again are two different things.

>>383903428
Nobody should be struggling with Phase 3. Yeah it's annoying padding but it's literally a copy-paste of phase one with edgier FX work.

>>383903915
>90%
>3 npcs, 3 boss fights, 2 areas, and 2 enemy types.
Woah damn

>>383904157
Oh and the Bridge Drake.

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>>383904041
Oh come on, that's the most iconic location in the series and it wasn't even long, you really didn't want to revisit it for 5 minutes?

It also actually had a cool original addition with Aldrich and Pontiff taking it over, compared to the overused Artorias callbacks which were just different factions wearing his helmet or following his armor.

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>>383905932
>you really didn't want to revisit it for 5 minutes?
No.

>>383906776
>Some obscure game like Startropics 2 lets you revisit areas from the first game
>/v/: Woah epic XD
>Dark Souls 3 does it
>Boo >:(

Why the double standard?

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>>383906949
I never said that.

>>383907430
I know. Just something I noticed.

Dark Souls is garbage, only Demon's Souls and Bloodborne are good.

>>383903915
Because references stop being charming after a 3rd time. Miyazaki really should have set out to make a proper sequel to dark souls 2 that kept all the improvements and ironed out the flaws the game had. The story was mostly fresh in Dark Souls 3 until all the DLC came out and essentially ignored the base game's characters and lore entirely just to make references and take us to sloppily thrown together levels with pretty art design.

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>>383907785
>sequel
>to Dark Souls 2
Very funny

>>383907785
That only really applies to Ariandel, the ringed city is fantastic and explains a lot of the overall series lore. We finally have a good idea what happended with pygmy, the god's relationship with them and humans, and what the dark actually is. If DaS 4 is ever made, I guarantee it will be set in the girl's painting

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>>383905932
>Oh come on, that's the most iconic location in the series and it wasn't even long, you really didn't want to revisit it for 5 minutes?

No. I wanted to see Dark Souls 3 locations. Unused locations. Prime Irithyll. Alpha Lothric and alpha kiln. I wanted to see DARK SOULS 3 locations, and I wanted to see the unused soundtracks being used because they were better than most tracks in the series. I was seriously interested in Dark Souls 3's world and the DLC came out and screwed that up.

I had never even been to Anor Londo when I got there in Dark Souls 3, and I had never played Dark Souls 1.

Now I've actually been to Anor Londo in Dark Souls 1 and part of it feels cheapened by Dark Souls 3.

>>383907954
I said Dark Souls 3 perfectly started out as that. If you read literally anything after that... holy shit this userbase is just ignorant retards.

>>383908687
If you hadn't played Dark Souls 1 what were you even comparing it to? Every DaS3 location must have felt new to you, your post makes no sense.

>>383908831
I didn't compare it to anything. I said it severely cheapened my experience going to actual Anor Londo in Dark Souls 1 for the first time.

>>383908687
>never played Dark Souls 1
>wants more shit from DS2

>>383908983
>never played Dark Souls 1

Second playthrough right now thank you for projecting.

>>383905932
The boss of the area is a pile of shit with a Dark Souls 1 boss sticking out of the top, I don't think FROM were that enthusiastic about revisiting the area

>>383908957
You said you wanted to see "DARK SOULS 3 unused locations" but without playing DaS1 everything in DaS3 must have felt new to you right?

Good lesson to not play games in a series out of order. Don't even see how it can be cheapened when you explore way more of it including the Painting Chapel, interior, and outside plaza. There's more NPCs and questlines to interact with.

Just finished it a couple of days ago. Completely shat my pants when phase 3 started after the fakeout. Had put my controller down and was breathing out. By the time I learned her third phase the other two were basically just timesinks but it was an amazing boss fight anyway.

I can't beat her or the two dragons. I really hate these multi stage bossfights with multiple health bars.

>>383893625
>Barefoot (but no footprints)
That's because there wasn't any snow in Friede's place.
>bonfire comment
That was kinda funny
>Ahahaha, I've trapped this guy in the painted world
>find a bonfire after two seconds and teleport back to the shrine

>>383909334
The 3rd phase is the only challenge, if you're dying in the 1st or 2nd you just are losing focus. Ariandel is weak to bleed weapons/Carthus Rouge if you want to take him down faster.

You need to stick close and stagger her whenever you can, when she jumps up in the air you can roll forward and get behind her, then hang back and wait a bit more for an AOE explosion while you're behind her, then get a few hits in.

>>383892452
it sucks monkey dick

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>>383892452
FEET

>>383909167
What does that have to do with the DLC poorly servicing the base game? Of course the game felt new to me. I wanted fucking more of it.

Which I didn't get, because half the DLC shit was about the world being fucked and serviced none of the base game's world, locations and unseen characters whatsoever, and was mostly just to wrap up Dark Souls 3 more quickly than it already was without providing further insight into the base game. Something I felt Dark Souls 2 did.

>>383909580
Did Gael really trap you though, I thought he just said "Go in here and do some shit if you want, I'm about to go do the important stuff on my own".

I wish DS games had more multi stage bosses.

>>383893843
Completely agree. Ariandel was the giant retard charging at you while Friede stood back and fired ranged attacks that kept you on your feet constantly and forced you to look away from Ariandel while hitting him to make sure you didn't get hit or that she started healing. Backstabbing Friede was kinda risky if Ariandel started up his big flame breath and just seeing the area light up with frost and flame was beautiful.

Ornstein and Smough on the other hand was just two retards charging at you at different speeds while you tried to separate them and beat them up. They suffered from the issue of both of them always going for melee attacks and Smough covering Ornstein so you couldn't see that he was charging up a *zips across the room and stabs you* move as well as smough pushing ornstein into you, making his attacks hit when you were supposed to have gone out of range. It was still a good boss fight because mostly, these things wouldn't matter but I just felt that Ariandel and Friede complemented each other better

>>383909754
What insight did you really need into the base DaS3 story from the DLC? The Lords of Cinder all returned, you took care of Lothric, what was left? You wanted to see the "Alpha Kiln", wasn't that what the Dreg Heap was?

Sorry that they wanted to service fans who had played the other games first with the very last pieces of Souls content ever.

I'm giving you a challenge /v/. Go to http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Sister+Friede and find the funniest comment you can at the bottom of the page

>>383909987
>Earthen Peak
>1/16 of High Wall's geometry

>Servicing fans that played the other games

Miyazakiqueers everyone

>>383910154
>I always laugh when I see the DS fanboys say 'git gud' and 'casul'. What they don't understand is that their 'trolling' has become just as lame and repetitive as trudging through this DS BS. You people pride yourself on what? Putting tons of hours on a sloppily coded, bare bones ARPG with a role that amounts to answering 'Yes' or 'No' in the few instances you actually have dialogue options, and other than that, basically world purging? Meh.

This guy probably posts here and can't even beat Freide.

>>383909793
I mean there was the evil laughter after you got sucked in, something your character clearly struggles against

>>383909987
>what was left?

Actual information about Lothric.

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>yfw WHEN THE ASHES ARE TWO

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>>383910582
Genuinely got a stomach ache there for a sec. All the joy of beating the second phase gone in an instant
I loved it

Ashes was longer than I was expecting. People were saying there were only two bosses so I was surprised when I found the demons, though the dregs area wasnt great

>>383892452
>glorified NPC
>20-foot shonen anime jumps
>nothing personnel kid

How does anyone like this fight

>>383892452
Ashes of ariendel was a really bad dlc, literally just run through to pull a single lever, fight the boss and you're done

>>383910709
The Dreg Heap is part of TRC, not Ashes. I do like Ariandel as a level more than most people though, it felt huge and expansive like a Demon's Souls level.

>>383892452
the fight is made trivial with a pair of headphones

>>383910874
Oh wow I had no idea. Just assumed both dlcs would be separate areas. That's pretty neat.

>>383910934
Or you could just look at the little cloud of frost flying off in the opposite direction of where she dashed after turning invisible. Alternatively look for the cloud of frost behind you if she jumped over you. Just walk up to her, backstab her and do a charged heavy attack while she's getting back up. Free damage

>>383892452
I liked the original Lady Maria better.

>>383910836
>glorified NPC
>20-foot shonen anime jumps
>nothing personnel kid

Exactly why I like that fight desu.

>>383910154
>Just have to say after all the hype I beat her first try, new game, SL 110 with small leather shield & Black knight sword +5. Abused the **** out of parries first phase the switched to grass crest shield 2nd and 3rd for the extra stamina regen. Was fun but a majority in these comments definitely over sold the difficulty

>I was just massively overleveled and cheesed her so you all are exaggerating the difficulty

>Those turning invisible nonsense. Cheap ways to make a boss "harder" lol. Fail!

>bull*****boss, pure artificial difficulty
Hi /v/

>>383892452
>poor man's Maria
>best anything

>>383892452
DUDE YOU KNOW ALL THOSE TWO PHASE FIGHTS?

HERE'S A THREE PHASE FIGHT LMAO

THANX FOR THE FIFTEEN BUCKS

>>383911904
First two phases were so easy I'd have been even more disappointed with my money if that was all there was.

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>>383911904
>being this mad that Blackflame Friede killed you because you tabbed out to shitpost on /v/ about how easy this 2 phase boss fight was

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>post your face when you realize that she was literally a re skinned Maria and Gael was literally a re-skinned Orphan with a few attacks that are literally copy pasted from Martyr Logarius.

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>>383910582

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>>383912076
Cool, more things I enjoy

>>383892496
Gael was far too easy.

>>383912076
Gael's 3rd phase was alright but overall Midir was the only good fight in the DLC

>>383912213
i liked demon prince

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>>383912159
Thats not the point. I had already bought this dlc it seems when I had bought and played The Old Hunters. Admittedly it was interesting to fight them with Dark souls mechanics but I was not happy with it at all that I was, in essence, fighting the exact same bosses again. I wanted something equally good but new.

Gael should have transformed into a big fuck off monster tbqh since he had apparently eaten every dark soul shard in existence (a dumb premise)

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>>383912076
>>383912383
>Gael was literally just a reskinned orphan

Nigga what? I can definitely see the Friede/Maria connection, but c'mon now.

Gael is nowhere near as fast or dangerous as The World's Angriest Eldritch Manchild.

>>383912076
>she was literally a re skinned Maria
hey remember when Maria could turn invisible, had a Smough partner, homing dark and ice magic and behaved passively as fuck to bait your attacks?
> Gael was literally a re-skinned Orphan
hey remember when Orphan had a full-auto crossbow, a sword with Artorias-like moveset, corona magic, teleportation and red pursuers spam that attracted thunderbolts alongside with leaving aftershocks after each swing in combo

>>383912354
Yeah that was alright, but it loses points for being yet another gank boss

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>>383912618
Second phase should have gael eaten by Kaathe. And then you fight Kaathe.

>>383913000
If you honestly cannot see massive comparisons between Maria and Frieda you are blind or just completely ignorant

>>383913068
It becomes a bit more interesting once you figure out how their frenzy mode mechanic works. Gave me a good old time on my 10Vig character. Too bad most people kill them without ever having to figure it out properly though.

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>>383912667
They obviously toned the speed down to be in line with dark souls

>>383913000
>hey remember when Orphan had a full-auto crossbow
He would throw blobs of his placenta at you in rapid fire yeah
>a sword with Artorias-like moveset
It's orphans move set but with a sword instead of a "flail" but his cloak gives the flail effect. He might do 1 or 2 aritorius flips maybe.
>red pursuers spam
Martyr Logarius
>thunderbolts
Yes
>aftershocks
Yes

Wow did you even play Bloodborne?

>>383913214
Are you one of those faggots that thinks Gears of War invented third person shooters and all third person shooters are Gear rip offs now?

Being inspired by and adding onto something is not the same as being a re-skin you thick fuck. There is no one I despise more in the world (yes including rapists and serial killers) than people like you who think creativity has to happen in some kind of vacuum and every game needs to be bestowed on us by some otherworldly being creating entirely unique ideas or else it's a reskin.

Fuck.

>>383913523
So you are blind, ignorant AND deluded.
Congratulations.

>>383913413
>He would throw blobs of his placenta at you in rapid fire yeah
which is entirely different attack both in terms of actual effect and animations you fucking moron
>It's orphans move set
it's not
if anything, it's closer to artorias
>Martyr Logarius
launched them in straight line instead of exploding with them into every direction
>Yes
orphan launched a ground lighting shockwave and not a swarm of thunderbolts coming at specified locations with delay after previous attack
>Yes
no, he had no aftershocks from his swings
>Wow did you even play Bloodborne?
did you?

>>383913214
If you honestly see anything in common between maria and friede aside from one attack animation you have brain damage

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>>383913000
You're wrong but
>a sword with Artorias-like moveset
>HAH HE'S NOT A COPY PASTE OF THAT BOSS HE'S ACTUALLY A COPY PASTE OF THIS OTHER BOSS CHECK MATE

>>383913523
Fucking hell mate chill out Just because Frieda and Gael are straight rip offs of several other bosses mashed together doesn't make them not fun. It just makes them uninspired and a little disappointing.

>>383913836
>You're wrong
hey thanks for a well-argumented opinion soulsturd
not like i expect anything else from this shit community at this point

>>383892994
Just cause you fight boring doesn't make the boss any less good. Fucking take chances and make the battle fun instead of imitating speedrun strats halfheartedly and then writing paragraphs on 4chan

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>>383913413
I know they toned the speed down, but he's still nowhere near as intimidating as the Orphan in my opinion. That's largely because all of his attacks have a really long long startup, so the only way for him to really hit you is if you accidentally attack him in the middle of one of his combos.

Orphan has like a million different mixups, and a few pimpslaps that come out with barely any startup, keeping you at your toes constantly. The only other boss in the series that comes close to being as versatile and reactionary is Champion Gundyr, and that's mostly because of his kick.

I'm really disappointed that Gael has such an un-intimidating moveset, because I love his concept, atmosphere and lore. And while I agree that he shares some mechanics with the Orphan, his actual gameplay is VASTLY different, and not in a good way.

>>383894625
you definitely didnt

>>383902882
Git Gud anon

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>>383913741
>which is entirely different attack both in terms of actual effect and animations you fucking moron
Projectiles fireing at you rapidly? yep seems the same to me. I'm not suggesting orphan had a crossbow you tit but you're just splitting hairs now.

>it's not if anything, it's closer to artorias
Yes it is orphan. Look them up on youtube seriously. You could say orphan is a rip off or arty then but Gael is orphans moveset.

>launched them in straight line instead of exploding with them into every direction
They are literally the same projectile just recolored.

You're right on the lightning. Orphans was a better attack. Why did they make a worse version for Gael?
>no, he had no aftershocks from his swings

Yes he did you Muppet his placenta would swing delayed to the rest of him due to it being a flail so it could hit you as well as his initial attack.

>>383913264
Honestly something that might trigger at very low health isn't a smart design on a boss if you want players to actually see it. Like a lot of people practically never see Old Demon King's fuck-off explosion near the end

>>383908687
>>383908957
SHIT OPINION ALERT

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How the fuck do you even determine which circlestrafefest is better than all the other circlestrafefests? Souls bosses are all the same shit. Does it even matter which one is "better"? don't get it.

>>383914502
That's not what I'm talking about.

At set intervals, the demons will shriek and burst into flames, an action that lets you get a few hits in if you're smart about it. After that, they will be "powered up" for a while, moving at double speed and attacking you relentlessly in melee. Once their buff runs out, they will do a small AoE attack, and then stick to easily avoided ranged combat until they buff again.

Once you kill one of them, the other one will power up permanently, until you kill that one too.

Most people get to see it, but they usually don't learn from it, since they usually win in the first few tries.

Anyone have a fun build I can copy?
I need something new

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>>383915070
10VIG sorc.

Use decoy and hidden body to get through levels.
Pump your INT to 60
Get the aqua dagger.

>>383915405
Oh, and very important; Fight Yhorm without the Meme Ruler. It's some of the most fun I've had with the game, and it feels like that's how he's supposed to be fought.