>tfw you disable vsync for the first time after hearing it

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>>383890232
>tfw frist time playing in 4k with 120 fps

>>383890232
Congrats on breaking out of the vsync meme

>>383890335
Well, it does fix tearing but fuck the amount of input lag it causes is insane

Vsync seems to do nothing in Prey, the screen tears a bunch either way. Do I have to force it with the vidya card settings?

>cucking your GPU ever

>>383890232

Yeah I love frying my graphics card with 300fps
frogtard

>>383891464

What kind of shit games do you play that you hit 300 fps lol

>>383891464
>having a good enough PC to get over 60 fps
IDIOT

>>383890232
Dark souls 3

>>383890232
screen tearing is much worse

This is why gsync/freesync is so awesome

Doesn't add input lag and elimates stuttering plus tearing.

As long as you don't go over your monitors refresh rate, in which case you can get tearing but it's not very noticable at such a high refresh rate

>having shit framepacing
lold

>his card doesn't have fast sync

>>383891464
If your card fries because it's fully used, it was probably a defective card in the first place.

>>383892030
Fast sync adds microstutter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L07t_mY2LEU&t=39s

or at least it used to, maybe its fixed by now.

Plus fast sync only works if you go over your monitors refresh rate, under that you can still get tearing or stuttering

>vsync on for single player games to ensure perfect frame timings and no tearing
>vsync off for multiplayer games to ensure response time
pointless altogether if you have freesync/gsync though, since they're clearly better options

>vsync
Framerate limiter masterrace here.

>no input lag
>no tearing

>>383892356
That is only true if you use ingame framelimiters, external frameratelimiters add significant input lag.

>When you have to have vsync enabled because your monitor is a piece of shit you bought as a replacement and the screen tears constantly without vsync enabled

Feels bad man

All my games tear no matter what unless vsync on and I can't stand it so I just have vsync on globally. Used to whatever input lag it creates.

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>>383890232
>Not having a modded TN panel monitor
>200+ 1800+17

Its almost like you hate pc gaming.

>>383890232

good for you that you changed your geforce 2 in 2017

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>>383892435
>TN
No

>playing full screen
>not playing borderless windows and have wddm vsync+double buffering

I know I'm a pleb, but I'll take a couple of miliseconds of input lag that I will never notice anyway over screen tearing, which unfortunately happens more often than not on my setup without vsync.

>>383892539
>vsync+double buffering
No thanks, the input lag would be massive

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>>383892508
t. pleb

Hating TN is a meme. Modded TN is the best panel available.

Im serious anon, do some research.

Just use vsync+prerendered frame queue at 0 or 1.

There, vsync with no input lag.

pretty much all you memeing newfag gaylords fell for the nvidia graphics cards meme

they cheat by having the 'Max Frames to Render Ahead' set to 3.5 default (overwriting the developer's choice) even if you have set it so to get a few more frames
set that shit to 1 and enable their retarded FastSync

AMD card users dont have these problems, and basically you're fucking retarded

>>383890232
wait until you realise that in some cases you can't disable vsync on Windows 8 and 10, ever

>>383892628
There is no overcoming the downsides of TN panels inherent in the technology such as color shifting at angles.

Good TN panels can get very close to IPS but they can't overcome some of the downsides they have

>>383891464
>300
try 2000 with STALKER

>>383892628
no, you are the pleb here
TN is a joke and you will get laughed at no matter where you go, doesn't matter if you try to ducttape shit together by "modding", it will still be shit
do your research

>>383891464
>he doesn't know for shit how to limit fps
newfags are not welcome

>>383892150

>Foreign idiot has problems no one else has
Funny how this always happens. Foreign tech reviewers are literally some of the shittiest channels. They always have problems literally no one else has.

>>383892754
Except that's bullshit and I've never encountered that in a single game, stay mad

>>383892840
why would i be mad - you're a newfag and retard.
Stay arrogant

>>383892818
>nobody else has
Oh?

You did a response time analysis with appropriate equipment yourself?

Screen tearing is non existent when you're not dropping 20 fps every time you turn the camera. An easy fix would be not having such a shitty computer in the first place.

>>383892539

>Playing borderless
>Causing the GPU to work even harder
>Gimping yourself with lower performance
>Worse frame rate then using a fullscreen application

You don't get any tearing because you can't even reach a higher refresh rate.

>>383892925
please return to your designated reddit thread

>>383892682
>technology is cheating
Another AMD fag mad that Nvidia does something smarter and better than AMD

>>383892925
Wow, way to expose yourself not knowing what the fuck you are talking about, shitter.

>>383892682

>nvidia graphics cards meme

Sorry I have better performance, better drivers, better support, better cooling, better design, and better control over my GPU

Only reason anyone buys AMD is because they're fucking poor.
>"AMD card users don't have these problems"
Yeah, because AMD cards can't even reach 60 fps on most games.

>>383892938
>be poor
>cant afford decent gpu
>being so poor you cant even imagine someone might have multiple monitors and thats why they use borderless
lmao

>>383892887
Retarded nigger. Call newfag again and you suck your dick as hard as i can, boi.

>>383893039
>better performance, better drivers, better support, better cooling, better design, and better control over my GPU
oh boy this one really fell face down for the meme

>>383892910

I've used Fastsync since it was released, and never had problem. Nor have any of the other big reviewers (Who aren't stupid foreigners) when it was released.

>>383893118
you need to get help

>>383893039
To be completely frank, driver standards have decreased at nvidia's lately. I have this bug since latest windows big update where my color profile resets on desktop after I quit a fullscreen game (or just alt tab from it). It pisses me off. It's been like 3 months and nvidia doesn't give a fuck.

>>383893118
>Call
call me
>and you suck
and I'll suck

>>383893148
You haven't tested the problem so you don't know if its there.

And even then, fastsync only works ABOVE your monitors max refresh rate, it doesn't fix stuttering or tearing below it you newfag

>>383893043

I have two monitors, and I still use fullscreen, because FULLSCREEN APPLICATIONS use the GPU more efficiently you stupid cuck.

You kids and your fucking "Dual monitor" memes are hilarious. If you can't alt+tab your game without destroying something, it's entirely on you, dumb fuck.

>>383893162
i don't need help to suck dick. i can do it by myself

>>383893148
Nice English there lardman.

>>383893127

You're trying to hard, child. There's shitposting, and then there's just being a retard and claiming your shitposting.

>>383893203
>And even then, fastsync only works ABOVE your monitors max refresh rate, it doesn't fix stuttering or tearing below it you newfag
Yeah, because that's how vsync is supposed to work in general, fast sync decreases input lag by calculating all the frames and discarding those that won't be displayed.
Vsync is supposed to be for when you can maintain at least your monitor refresh rate.

>>383893252

??
Do you mean my Grammar? My English is perfect, dipshit.

>>383893227
Not the same guy, but how is his fault if he alt tabs out of a fullscreen game and everything shits itself? That's the main reason I use borderless, so I can alt tab without having to deal with this shit. I also use only 1 monitor.

>>383893227
what a brainlet kek

>>383893304
Holy crap, go fucking look up what the technologies actualy are you dumb fuck.

Fast sync INCREASES input lag, not decrease it

>>383893414
I meant decreases it compared to regular vsync you fucking cretin...

>>383893414

>Fast Sync INCREASES

No, it doesn't. You do realize the entire reason why Fast Sync was created, is so people can DISABLE VSYNC but not have to worry about massive tearing once they go over their refresh rate. Maybe YOU should do some fucking research.

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>tfw finally ordered all the parts for my new beast pc w/ freesync monitor

I have a problem. In my nvidia control panel's global setting it says "Vertical Sync: On" and it just keeps going back On even when I take it off. But I have a G-Sync monitor so is it just G-Sync that is on and not V-Sync? I've tried looking at my fps graphs in games and it doesnt stuck into certain intervals (thats what vsync should do right?) like it used on my old monitor. My fps also goes beyond my refreshrate if I do not cap it. So I would imagine that v-sync is off but I am overly paranoid of it??

>>383893468
>I meant
>writes something completely different from what he means

Then stop being a fucking moron and write what you mean.

And again, fastsync does nothing to fix stuttering and tearing below your monitors refresh rate, so if you have a 144hz monitor, you will still have tearing and stuttering issues if you hit a lower rate than 144 fps

>>383893283
apply your shitty advice kiddo

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Oh but it's far better that the game looks like this! Because muh input!

>>383893586
That's pretty much what I wrote, you stupid fuck.

>>383890289
4k monitors are all 60Hz idiot.
Now 1440p 144Hz...

>>383893283
>>383893608
babies' first shitpost

>>383893636
Tearing isnt that bad if you actually FOCUS ON PLAYING THE GAME. Also it gets worse less fps you have.

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>>383893495
>no it doesn't
yes it does
>Maybe YOU should do some fucking research
Here I did my research, now where is your research backing up that fastsync does not increase input lag (it clearly does).

>>383893675
No it isn't cunt

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>>383893039
>Sorry I have better performance, better drivers, better support
kepler would like a word https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_FJyfttrwU
>$700 780 ti is overtaken by a $200 960 only 20 months later

>>383893715
>Focusing on playing the game while the screen it's split in half

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>>383893162
Hey, man. i was just kidding.

>>383893795
>because that's how vsync is supposed to work in general, fast sync decreases input lag by calculating all the frames and discarding those that won't be displayed.
Yes it is, it's even the whole fucking point of fastsync and why it was created : to have image sync with less input lag. Now go fuck yourself you worthless piece of trash.

>>383893853
>have to drag 4 year old cards into the argument

Why don't we talk about the high end AMD cards of this generation?

Oh wait there aren't any

>>383893871
I played TF2 in uncapped 200+ fps for years with 60hz monitor and didnt bother me.

>>383893227
if you need exclusive fullscreen to have a game run good then you must have a pretty shit PC you humngous
retard

>>383893715
>I-it disappears when y-you focus on the game instead!
So having minimal input lag is more noticeable than the game is getting ripped and torn the moment you turn around?

Get real. Buy a better mouse or a cash out for a 144Hz meme monitor.

>>383893929
You only have imagesync above your monitors refresh rate, what good is that going to do when you have a 144 hz monitor you fucking idiot

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>>383893726
Now here is gsync which adds virtualy no input lag, clearly the superior technology, but also more costly

>>383893989
>So having minimal input lag is more noticeable than the game is getting ripped and torn the moment you turn around?
Yes. Also yes I did upgrade from 60hz to 144hz a couple years ago. I was just sharing my own experience with the 60hz monitors tearing.

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>>383890232

>tfw you disable vsync in an old game which has no optional frame rate cap and the frame rate on the main menu suddenly goes into the thousands and your GPU starts overworking for nothing and temperatures go up 10 degrees

>>383894174
>coilwhine.mp3 starts playing

>>383893975
Becayse when you are an autistic kid eveything doesn't matter. I was the same til you get starting growing up and you actually care about quality.

Anyway Freesync/Gsync or 144Hz are the response to dealing with tearing. Simple as that.

>>383891698
What kind of games doesnt he play at 300fps?

>>383894174
That's what you use framerate limiters for

>>383894238
dude sex mankind divided

>>383894174
There is a framerate limiter at driver level, I'm pretty sure it's available for both nvidia and amd.

>have 4k monitor
>borderless windowed automatically picks monitor resolution
>pc is too shit to handle it

did I cuck myself?

>>383893940
>lets ignore the consistently shitty long term driver support of past architectures because that was a long time ago
nvidia is only worth it if you plan to upgrade every year or two, buy amd if you want longevity.
t. 770 owner -> fury

>>383894340
yeah, you memed yourself into 4k monitors

>>383894228
Yes. Also I bought 144hz Gsync monitor but I still play games in uncapped fps unless its something immersive. Like in TF2 I just play uncapped because I just like the 500fps placebo. In Overwatch I only get around 200 but I still prefer it over limiting to 140.

>>383894398
There's nothing shitty about the driver support of Nvidia you idiot.

The only reason AMD cards have become less shitty is because they have been using the same architecture for the last 6 years so optimizations of newer cards also help older cards.

And for that reason they are now so far behind Nvidia and unable to compete in the high end segment

Vega might barely surpass a non oc'd 1080, at much higher power consumption and a year later.

That's how shitty their architecture is

>>383894398
>long time nvidia user
>never any issues
>get convinced by /g/ shilling to try amd
>get a 390
>straight away problems with running older games and stutter in some new games
>find out I have to force of tesselation
>problems with old game still not fixed
>sell that turd and get an nvidia card back
>smooth sailing since
AMD, yeah no

>>383894253
>That's what you use framerate limiters for

Yes, that's how I solve the problem. But it would be nice if more games actually had the option built-in, so that we wouldn't have to turn to third-party software for very basic features like this.

>>383894323
>There is a framerate limiter at driver level, I'm pretty sure it's available for both nvidia and amd.

AMD's driver-level Vsync is completely non-functional in DirectX games, i.e., almost everything. (I want to emphasize that this is a known and documented fact, because some retard always goes "hurrrr works for me" which cannot be the case because AMD cannot force Vsync in DirectX games. Apparently this is because Microsoft places stupid restrictions on DirectX, and apparently Nvidia just gets around it with a hack.)

From what I've observed, it looks like AMD's frame rate limiter has the same problem. I can't be sure if it's actually the same DirectX problem, because I haven't done the research, but it simply doesn't work in most of the games I've tried, as of the last time I tried it. I kind of gave up on even trying to use it... so maybe they fixed it in more recent updates, but I doubt it.

>>383895032
Well, I have a nvidia card and my last AMD experience is quite old (4850), try using nvidia inspector see if it doesn't offer more frame rate limiter options. Sometimes nvidia inspector gives more option, and as far as I know it works for changing settings on AMD cards too (used it with my 4850 already).

>>383895201
>>383895032
If you're gonna use a framerate limiter Always use the ingame one as it adds the least amount of input lag.

If that isn't there, use the one that comes with rivatuner, only after that use the one that comes with Nvidia or AMD software, as they add significantly more input lag than the rivatuner one

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>>383894671
>The only reason AMD cards have become less shitty is because they have been using the same architecture for the last 6 years so optimizations of newer cards also help older cards.
my point exactly, nvidia don't focus on older generations because they simply don't have to. Majority market share has made them complacent enough to pull shit like the gtx 3.5 or founders edition because they know people will eat it up. Vega doesn't need to btfo of a 1080/ti to be competitive, it's all down to pricing which has always been a benefit of AMD cards.
>but hbm2
you could pickup a new fury (1070 performance) for sub $240 a few months after release

>>383895414
Oh yeah, rivatuner right. Probably the solution to his problem.

>>383895479
>my point exactly, nvidia don't focus on older generations because they simply don't have to
No they don't focus on old generations because they actualy have newer generations.

AMD doesn't focus on older cards either but since their new cards are essentialy the same architecture they benefit from optimizations to the newer cards

Doom was the first game I de-vsync'd last year, and the U2410 is patrician enough to where tearing isn't glaringly-bad. I started using vsync around the time I got my first LCD Syncmaster in college, where tearing looked hideous, and it was more of a way to make it stop triggering the shit outta me, considering I used a meme Trinitron for most of my life in middle/high school that looked gorgeous and had a 180Hz refresh, and just kept using it out of habit, assuming tearing would bug me with each monitor upgrade

I can only imagine how much it held both me and my GPU's back for a decade and a half up until last year

>>383895540
>they don't focus on old generations
that's all that ultimately matters, vega is another iteration of gcn that will benefit the fury cards in the long term, meanwhile maxwell is already beginning to show signs of deterioration despite pascal simply being a more efficient maxwell.

>>383892682
>AMD card users dont have these problems
They bought out the developer of RadeonPro, ported over the core features, and set it to 1 by default.
There is still register hacks to set it to 0 or 2.

>>383893414
No, it doesn't. Fast Sync™ is essentially True Triple Buffering implemented as a proper hack.
Its basically an entire frame faster than normal Vsync, because it doesn't use a fucked up queue. It also has greater fluidity of motion.

>>383892801
and only on the menu !

>>383892682
nvidia driver lets you fiddle with setting more than the modern amd driver thought
from having both
the whole software part of nvidia does really well

>>383896107
>meanwhile maxwell is already beginning to show signs of deterioration despite pascal simply being a more efficient maxwell
Literally an out of your ass pulled remark that is not supported by any evidence at all.

Not even by common sense either, Pascal is simply a higher clocked version of Maxwell, so optimizations to it benefit Maxwell aswell

>>383896116
>No, it doesn't.
Yes it does, see
>>383893726

Not as bad as vsync but it definately adds input lag

I'm not sure if it's my monitor but I never use vsync and barely see any tearing.

Vsync is nasty but it is a necessary evil for those that don't have monitors with G or Free sync. When frames go too high or too low the only way to stop screen tear is Vsync.

I never tried this FastSync option, I'm gonna try it right now

>>383898357
Keep in mind that it only works above your monitors refresh rate

>>383898442
I'm locked at 60 anyway. It seems to work very well

>>383896594
Merely sending the image to a monitor will add input lag, because Schrodingers flame flip will either make you wait for the flip or not.

>>383898232
WTF are you smoking? Vsync is not a necessary evil. Good syncing method ares, but not the garbage that is Vsync + 3-4 frames of buffer/render ahead

>>383892817
>Limiting your fps another way does not cause imput lag
Newfags are not welcome here indeed

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>>383892765
>>383892802
What's the alternative for TN?

IPS? Enjoy ruining all the dark scenes in movies and games due to the horrendous IPS glow typical to that panel technology.

VA? Enjoy slow pixel response time that causes blurring.


Until either these panel types improve, or some new panel type comes out, TN is still the way to go for gaming.

>>383899301
VA is perfect

>>383899359
No it is not. It still suffers from gamma shift, and the pixel response time I mentioned. "Perfect" panel type literally does not exist as of now.

>>383898568
So, it work, but it also introduced stuttering instead.
Meanwhile I didn't feel such a great response increase.

>>383890232
>tfw you get told to turn off vsync
>tfw the screen tears every time you move.

>>383899359
>>383899524
AMVA is perfect.

>turn off v sync
>literally can't see a single clear frame in the entire game because it tears fucking constantly
>some games work perfectly fine though without vsync for some reason
Confuses the shit out of me

>>383901153
Frame buffering is magic anon.

>buy a sapphire 290 Vapor-X
>runs loud and ultra hot for marginally better performance than my old card
>send that shit back
I can't believe I fell for the vapor x cool and quiet meme.

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>>383893148
>"Problem" instead of "problems"
>"Nor have" instead of "neither did"

>>383893365
>Capitalizing the 'g' in grammar for no reason
>My English is perfect
Kek

>>383901871
Should have bought an arctic acellero iii. Shit was magic on my 290x

>>383892508
>fell for the IPS meme
lel
How's that backlightbleed,. cuck?
Unless you do photo/video editing, you just wasted money.
TN is for gaming, it's common knowledge, pleb.

>>383893690
Just because you can't afford them doesn't mean they don't exist.

>>383891464
you can still set a lot of games to cap the fps with vsync off you dingus

>>383903150
Yes I'm sure your dumb fan setup beat a triple slot cooler with a vapor chamber

>>383894340
Post your build so i can laugh.

>>383891464
GPUs are designed to go handle up to 90C anyways. I'm more worried about COIL WHINE

>>383890232
LCDs are shit, on CRTs the lag from vsync is less noticeable.

>>383894340
>borderless window meme
Kys

>>383906831
it's not a meme

>>383906910
Give me one reason why you use it over full screen

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>>383903581

>>383906965
alt tab

>>383907073
this

>>383907073
You can alt tab fullscreen

>>383907238
sure

Honestly I never play with V-Sync. Never noticed a difference either,

>>383907403
you can

>>383907238
full screen alt tab crashes a lot of games for me

>>383907435
i know

>>383907073
Kill yourself
>>383907474
You're a retard

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>>383907435
>you can

>>383891464
what shitty fucking card are you using?

>expensive GPU that is claimed to be powerful
>1M+ bitcoin miners

>>383891698
quit playing that spreadsheet simulator eve

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>tfw sensor broke on over 5yo gpu couple years back and it has been running the fan at 100 percent at default
>just throw the settings to max
>been so for little over a year now
>still can play most games without issues

>>383909382
Source is a meme engine that can`t alt+tab

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>>383890232
>when you turn off vsync and it breaks gravity for some reason

Is it true that if i have a 75hz monitor and cap the framerate to 60fps it wont screen tear?

>>383908527
he's right tho

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>>383890232
>play a demanding game
>GPU at 80% usage or somewhere close
>GPU temperature not enough for the fans to spin
>only thing you can hear in the room is coil whine that immediately stops after opening the main menu

>>383901871
I have a vapor x and have been using it for months and it's neither loud or runs hot. Stop trying to shill so hard

>>383914828
coil whine is a meme

>>383914828
just throttle them manually

>>383915776
It's not a pleasant sound.
>>383915864
Once I actually did try to make them activate at lower temperatures but it didnt work and I dont want to watch tutorials.

>>383916227
because it's not even *a* sound at all!

>>383916351
What do you mean it's not a sound? What am I hearing when I play demanding games then?

>>383916524
i dunno you tell me

>>383915776
are you deaf?

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>Having a computer that's so shit that v-sync diminishes responsiveness

>>383917308
this
playing Deus Ex and Morrowind with triple buffered v-sync on my GTX 1080ti and I have zero noticeable lag

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ya but your eyes

>>383916840
>>383916524
>>383916351
>>383916227
>>383915776

coil whine is real and my friend tells me my 970 is awful about it
but I can't hear for shit so it doesn't bother me

>>383917987
yes goy get another graphics card. This one whines too much...

>>383893690
Asus Swift PG27UQ

>>383890347
windows has some kind of magic vsync that it does to windows that somehow has no input lag and no screen tearing

that's why "fullscreen borderless windowed" modes are a thing

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Glossary:Borderless_fullscreen_windowed