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Childhood is idolizing the Horde Adulthood is realizing the Alliance

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Childhood is idolizing the Horde
Adulthood is realizing the Alliance makes more sense
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Wrong.
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get the plague
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>>383882993
>>383883035
hordebabbies detected
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Horde players are always the biggest shitters with taunt macros and the fags who will gank you then / lol at your body when they nearly died in an unfair fight. Horde players need to die
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Childhood is playing hoop 'n' stick
Adulthood is working
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The reason the Legion even is invading right now is because the Horde leaders couldn't keep their Warchief in check. The High King should have dismantled the savage Horde when he had the chance.
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>>383882827

both are equally retarded for giving activision/""""""blizzard""""""""""""""" money
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From a lore standpoint both factions were fine until Cata.

Alliance was the best faction in vanilla and wotlk while horde dominated tbc.
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horde = muslims
alliance = white civilization
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>like 3 horde warchiefs have died already
>only 1 alliance leader has died
Huh...
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>>383883337
>and it was at the hands of his own son
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>>383883414
wat
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Adulthood is realizing how shit WoW is as a game and playing real games
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>>383883337
Maybe because hiding behind brickwalls and crying about muh orcs does not grant you the a honourable death?
So warchiefs fight and stand with their man
Really makes you think....
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>>383883448
I was joking about Terenas, anon
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>>383883337
Didn't only Garrosh and Vol'jin die?
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>childhood is playing what you like
>adulthood is realizing that you have to play what has the best racial
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>>383883504
like FFXIV
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>>383883326
>Forsaken rebel against their government, stab it in the back, start a genocide on their countrymen, and install a foreign general as their queen
>Frostwolves slaughter innocent archaeologists and refuse justice
>Warsong is destroying Ashenvale just because it pisses the night elves off
>"Repentant" orcs back the extermination of the Draenei by the Blood Elves and the gangrape of an angel in their basement
>Give a Dreadlord free rein until he almost summons Sargeras and kills Bolvar
>Horde paranoia ruins the assault on the Broken Front
>hurr they're just about the same
Fuck Blizzard for their Horde fanboyism. Coming out of WC3 you could write a perfectly fine MMO setting with two factions of massively different sizes but they just had to go full BRING BACK THE WAR IN WARCRAFT.
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>>383883142
It's okay,anon. Show me where the undead rogue touched you.
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>>383883839
and who would have the best racials?
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>>383884068
for pve bloodelves aoe silence that also build resources is broken as shit
for pvp orc or human for another stun trinket or 20% less stun duration
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>>383884068
Used to be Human if you PVP and Orc/Troll if you PVE. No idea now
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>>383883337
>only one alliance leader
Terenas
Thoras Trollbane
Uther
Antonidas
Anduin Lothar
Daelin Proudmoore
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>>383884142
That silence spell helped me fuck over so many pallies back when I played. Fuck those emergency full health faggots.
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>>383883337
>Garrosh died because he felt the way the Horde was going was untrue to what he believed to be the right way and fought to his own death for it
>Vol'jin died because Sylvanas needed to be Warchief for the story of Legion
Really fires up those ol' subscriber counts, now doesn't it?
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Most wronged character in the entire series coming through, get fucked everyone else, you don't know true suffering.
>Be one of the founders of the modern Horde
>Get absolutely nothing throughout the entirety of WoW
>Your best friend, Thrall, chooses some raging Orc retard to lead the Horde while he's away
>Die in a book the large majority of players have never read
>Most people don't even know you're dead
>Get absolutely fucking nothing in ways of a funeral, literally rotting on a pile of sticks in Mulgore
>The only acknowledgement of your death comes from a small quest during Children's Week
>Your son, Baine, isn't allowed to do fuck all either, and got cut out of the one major sub-story he was planned to have in Highmountain, all because some Alliance players whined about having to help a Horde character
>Garrosh is fucking dead, so your death had absolutely no meaning in the first place, and ultimately served no purpose
>On top of EVERYTHING, the person that's responsible for your death, Magatha, got away with everything that she did, and currently resides in the Shaman class hall, where Muln gets told to fuck off by Nobundo for getting reasonably angry at her even being there in the first place
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>>383882827
If You Are Not a *Horde* at 15, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a *Alliance* at 25 You Have No Brain
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>>383884068
Undead rogues got the best racials.
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i like dwarves so alliance it is
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>>383883737
Cairne
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>>383884532
>Most people don't even know you're dead
>>383883737

poetry
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>>383884709
>night elves
>not greece
>blood elves
>not italy
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>>383884225
All of those were before WoW. Might as well bring up the many Orc and Troll leader deaths.

Only Lothar, Terenas and Uther were ever relevant, and Uther is not a nation leader. Proudmoore is a fucking plot device and a meme, just to have Horde vs Alliance again.
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Alliance
t: /pol/
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>>383884052
>unironicly defending undead rouge players
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>>383884709
I need a quick rundown on the Draenei.
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>>383883541

Thrall quit
Garrosh wasn't even warchief when he died and Thrall just cheated in their dual and hit him with elements
Vol'Jin got stabbed once by a demon.

Literally only 1 has an honorable death and even then it gets over shadowed by Varian dying on the battlefield while he sat on his thrown clinging to life slowly dying.
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I've always gone with Alliance. Not only are the races more aesthetic, the demographics on Alliance side are more to my liking

Alliance
>people who like having fun with video games
>always up for pve or pvp
>generally friendly

Horde
>edgy autists who tattoo their virtual faction logo on their IRL bodies
>always too busy ganking at dark portal
>constant trashtalking
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>>383883142
Come on, as if people playing alliance are saints. The 95% of the entire races of night elves, humans and gnomes are fucking assholes.
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>>383886532
>stabbed
>slowly dying
Why didn't they just get a healer in?
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>>383883142
>crying about getting ganked on a PvP server
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Alliance has always been the self inserting human paladin roleplay faggot faction
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>>383882827
pretty much.

horde were always dindu nuffinas and """"noble"""" savages.
once you get to experience real world you understand that these things just dont exist
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>>383886656

They are all pvp servers now. They got rid of normal years during x-realm zone time I think
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>>383886749
like we had a choice in that. All I ever wanted was to rape and pillage hummies but then they came up with green Moses and made a redemption story. WoW orcs are completely pussified
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>>383886265
>Burning Legion bows to Draenei
>Aliens
>Possess holy-like abilities
>Control Draenor with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks azerothally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>First city on Argus was Draeneigrad
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Azeroth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Draenei babies
>Ancient Troll scriptures tell of a spaceship which will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They learned fluent Common in under a week
etc
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>>383883335
So horde are badasses who will take over the world in the next 50 years and the alliance are cucks that want nothing more than to let the horde fuck their women

In that case...FOR THE HORDE!
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>>383886989

Super power by 2020!
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>>383886265

Main race behind the religion that is the light. Main race behind advancing the burning legion.
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>>383886556
>Not only are the races more aesthetic
>elves, humans, shorter humans, shortest humans, wolf humans
the only interesting race is draenei
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>>383887248
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>>383887248
Alliance stands upright and look civilized.
Horde is just hunchback savages with the exception of flamboyant faggot elves.

Also,
>green humans
>short green humans
>blue lanklet humans
>dead humans
>cow humans
>gay humans
Humans are quite obviously the ubermensch.
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>>383882827
Adulthood is realizing both factions are filled with shitters.
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>>383882827
childhood is idolizing the horde
adulthood is prefering the alliance because blizzard completely fucked the horde up
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>>383887446
furry and retarded huh? rough
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>>383886772
PvE servers are only crossed with PvE servers
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>orcs come and wreck shit because they're possessed by demonz
>war is pretty much inevitable
>at this point it's azeroth vs orcs

>Arthas makes some minions out of the humans of Lordraeron
>they're now free, but humans of other kingdoms don't accept them
>orcs offer a helping hand
>skellington people are now horde

>magix and the highborn are banned because of cunt Azshara
>some other shit happens and high elves are now horde

>tauren guy and troll guy were doing some shaman voodoo shit
>orc walks by and says 'oi wassup m8s let's do some voodoo shit over at Orgrimmar senpaitachi'
>'k'

>little green shits blew up their hometown
>made some trades and shit and now they're horde because they know alliance would never accept em
Horde's pretty alliance rejects or peeps who like shamanism
Their cause is alright-ish since alliance were cunts and cast 'em aside. But Alliance are still cooler
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>>383886567
I am alliance player, always have been, but what the alliance did at that horde players funeral was simply disgusting. And the horde bringing that huge demon to sotrmwind was actually fun, I was one of the people that took him down on my server, after we regrouped amidst the chaos ofc. I miss those days.....
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>>383884532
>that last one

I was so fucking upset. Blizzard just flat out told Tauren players to fuck off. Tauren don't deserve this shit.
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>>383887771
>>little green shits blew up their hometown
gnomes aren't green thought

and deathwing causing kezan's volcano to erupt wasn't their fault
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>>383882827
Autism is realizing you can make a Pandaren hit the level cap and never align.
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>>383887771
>they're now free, but humans of other kingdoms don't accept them
Have you fucking idiots even played the games? The very first contact they had with the Alliance was with the most xenophobic dickhead possible and it was perfectly amicable right up till the point where they stabbed them in the back.
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>>383886567
In terms of RP, Alliance players are filled to the absolute fucking brim with autism and elitism.
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>>383887909
>Autism is realizing you can make a Pandaren
rest of the post is unnecessary
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>>383887446
They don't count since you can join both sides.
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>>383884050
>rebel against their government

you mean the one that was completely destroyed by ((Arthas))?
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Childhood is idolizing the west games
Adulthood is realizing the jap games are better
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The Game is 13 years old, everyone has played a character on both factions to 60 at least once
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>>383882827
And maturity is acknowledging that neutral panda is the apex of sensibility.
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>>383888054

>not korean
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>>383882827
Reason is realizing these factions exist entirely to promote clanlike behavior and improve player retention rate.
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>tfw just go for the faction my friends are playing on at any given time
>stopped giving a shit about faction arguments ages ago because you realize both factions have plenty of good and bad players and it's really just an aesthetic choice at this point
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>Incredibly enjoy how the horde were trying to chill out but still wanted to wage war with the alliance without being gigacunts in vanilla
>Sylvanas is now the leader of the horde and turns anyone she wants into an undead with nobody questioning it.
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>>383882827
Horse as a faction does not make sense anymore. Why Undead are still part of it and Taurens should join the fucking Alliance long ago.
The only thing that keeps them together is that the gameplay requires it.
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>>383888254
>Vol'jin had to die because Blizzard wanted to push Sylvanas in Legion
>Do absolutely nothing with her
>She'll probably just get fucking killed anyway
I just want my nigga Baine to do something, but he got cut out entirely
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>>383888043
>We need your help to take the capital!
>b-but you don't actually exist, arthas destroyed you so we're allowed to slaughter you afterwards ;)
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Has blizz addressed the fact that orcs have literally no reason to be on Azeroth anymore and could just go back to live on Draenor since WoD?
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>>383888329
The worst part about the faction shit is just how forced it is now. It's the least genuine thing in the current story, and it's just so fucking trivial and petty to have them fighting over fucking nothing.
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>>383888428
its kinda fitting that pvp is complete shit now
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>>383885901
>Uther is not a nation leader.
Was a leader of the Lordaeron Alliance in the Second War
>Proudmoore is a fucking plot device
Was Grand Admiral of the Lordaeron Alliance in the Second War
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Horde are pretty much ruined because of the fanbase and bias up top, both for Thrall(Not for horde, just Thrall and Orcs) and Alliance. The Former is so Balant in Legion its just stupid.

Dont get me wrong, it was stupid in WoD as well with the dicksucking of Thrall and the Orcs again, ignoring everything else. The difference being that everyone with a fucking brain knew WoD was going to be shit. Just look at the fucking premise of it and just try to defend and say how that's not fucking stupid and nonsensical.

Legion at least had potential, but nope. Horde gets fucked in the ass raw and constantly shown to be pussies and led by an comically evil bitch for some reason. Even the cleary tauren zone got de-Hordified storywise because Allies were bitches and complained, even though Tyrande and Malfurion are basically the story for one of the other zones. Even the main heroes of Legion are alliance race people who are not aligned with the Alliance.

The sad thing is, literally everything thats gone wrong in Azeroth basically boils down to Draenei being Burning Legion leaders, Night Elves being hypocritical idiots, and Human's being callous faggots. Gnomes are an afterthought and Worgen are humans who shut themselves out and got fucked. Dwarves are the only decent race allies have.

Then you have Orc's being fucking raging pussies, the brown ones being worse about that. Undead legit being evil and proving why everyone hates them. Trolls being ignored, Tauren purposely being ignored, and Bloodelves being proven right and getting fucked by everyone. Goblins just being the jews everyone wants them to be.

Who the fuck am I even supposed to choose between them? Both Factions are fucking awful. When fucking Drug addicts are the most sympathetic race something went terribly wrong.
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>>383888358
>general wants to evict you from the land you lived in all your life
>"lol k"

How does it feel being a statist cuck?
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>>383888368
Paralel dimensions, that is not their true homeworld, tbc outland is. The one and only reason they are still here. That and cause they know that without the horde they are shit.
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>>383882827
Can't we enjoy both?
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>>383884709
>>383885536
Blood Elves have Middle Eastern aesthetics though. Although that kinda makes them Swedes
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>>383888504
>Please hold to the agreement that you yourself suggested
>WTF YOU STATIST FUCK REEEEEE!
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>>383888469
A commander, not the leader of Lordaeron, thats still Terenas. He's merely a higher up in the Silver Hand, he's not a nations leader.

Proudmore leaves the alliance during the second war, and gets fucked by the horde right after. He is a plot device in the grand scheme of things for Warcraft.
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>>383884532
A bit of a tangent but it seems like Warcrimes was written by two completely different people. Either that or the writer had something in mind but Draenor still had to happen.
On one side you have the dialogue between Cairne and Baine and ultimately Baine taking Garrosh's side. A moment that is very well written and that advances Baine's character. But than Garrosh gets teleported away because WoD needed to happen.
You've got the reunion between the Windrunners which was an interesting concept if done well. But than they leave and never speak of it again because the game still needs to have conflict.
You've got the four celestials that want to give Garrosh a fair trial and show people the reason why he did this. But than Draenor happens and he turns into a saturday morning cartoon villain and gets killed in a Mak'gora where Thrall completely ignores the rules.
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>>383888662
Garithos was an unreasonable cunt.
His death was pretty much necessary.
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>>383888659
Yes, Ottoman-like architecture, but they were in Alliance in Second war and after "ScourgeWelcome" campaign become a Horde member
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>>383888718
At this point the books might not even fucking exist, let alone be written. Hell, does Legion even have a tie-in book that's not Chronicles related?
Christie Golden has shown to be the sole person that actually gives a fuck enough to write about Baine, and she does a good job. She understands that he has great potential in being such an interesting character, but the actual WoW writers completely ignore all of this and simply write him out of the story altogether. It's just so fucking lazy, and it pisses me off so fucking much. The Illidan/Legion story has been so incredibly fucking boring too, so it's really difficult to take your mind off of shit like that. It's just such a fucking waste of a character that is essentially a blank slate.
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Lord Garithos was RIGHT
Admiral Proudmoore was RIGHT


High Elves deserved it
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Whats the point of fucking Pandas?
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>>383888796
The Horde and their fanboys always have a retarded excuse to do the stupid shit they do. Why the hell would the Alliance agree with that?
>hey the forsaken are wiping out what few humans still live in Lordaeron and they're making a WMD to wipe us all out and their second in command is a Dreadlord but I guess Garithos was a jerk so that's all right
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>>383889082
producing panda babies
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>>383889082
china likes panda and is a huge market
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True maturity is realizing that both factions are set up with flaws that means getting behind one or the other is kind of ridiculous.
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>>383884532
Baine?
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I pick human almost always, more exp more rep and the beginning area has easy to grind level i mean it's not hard to begin with but still.
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>>383888953
>Hell, does Legion even have a tie-in book that's not Chronicles related?
Wasn't there an Illidan novel? Never read it since I stopped giving a fuck mid-way through WoD
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>xHordeweebnamex makes some strange gestures.
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>>383888953
>Anduin and Baine are canonically friends
>This is mentioned maybe once, if not at all in the actual game
>Baine lost his father, and Anduin helped him get through it
>Baine isn't doing the same with Anduin over the death of Varian because Blizzard doesn't care and wishes things to stay black and white
>Baine got cut out of Highmountain despite Mayla's storyline being incredibly similar to what happened with Baine, and he helped her through it
>All those voice lines that literally went to waste
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>>383889227
>not more xp
>rep doesnt do anything for you

are you a fucking retard
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All of these lore spergs, this is the reason you're still virgins
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>>383883142
Horde player here
My favorite past time is ganking people in PVP zones as a hunter by shooting them from mid air and disengaging to safety. Amazing in Outlands
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>>383889319
>not more exp
Do the quests for them and any other starting area

Rep is amazing specially helps with flying being a cunt
I would love it if you blew me and here's your you.
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Horde: Current scumbags.
Alliance: Past scumbags.
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>>383889397
Flying isnt a cunt, it's easy.

The rep gated from Suramar doesnt help with getting flying because completing the campaign gives you the rep.

Eat shit faggot
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>>383889484
You seem kinda angry, what's wrong friend.
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>>383889514
i won
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>>383889579
By being angry?
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>>383889590
by being an alpha
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>>383889579
noone wins on 4chan
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>>383884050
>Coming out of WC3 you could write a perfectly fine MMO setting with two factions of massively different size
There's absolutely no reason why NElfs would have joined the Alliance. It was already hand wavey bullshit at launch.
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If Tauren joined Alliance, how Horde could compensate this?
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>>383889631
You sound like tyler1 and all his autismo
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>>383889657
taking dwarves
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Despite the xpac sucking, anyone else think Warlords of Draenor had the coolest cinematic trailer?
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>>383889646
well i just did

get used to it pal
nigger

>>383889672
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>>383889654
Joining the Alliance is all benefits and no downsides, why wouldn't they?
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>>383889704
Sharing zone with Gnomes and having a train to Stormwind. May they'd took NightElves?
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>>383889657
>Tauren
>Joining the Alliance
They would go neutral if they could.
>Tauren literally getting shat on since day 1 with nothing to even remotely make up for it
Gnomes might complain about being irrelevant, but holy fuck at least they don't have to suffer the same way Tauren do.
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>>383889764
i know it might seem like irony but i actually love that you exist
wow would be so boring without people like you
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>>383889657
make pandas horde only
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>>383889875
>Horde takes elf shit, AGAIN

YES HORDE!
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>>383882827
Alliance is for 12 year olds and housewives.
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>>383889654
>>383889773
Tauren should have joined the Alliance too, tbqh
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>>383889704
i dont want pedophiles on my faction , i have enough with the horde and fighting 2 shitty pedophiles breeds
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>>383889654
Horde killed Cenarius and still intends to cut Ashenvale down
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>>383889931
thanks anon, big kiss

have a comfy night
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>>383890049
t. edgy 12 year old
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>>383890098
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>>383889773
>>383890137
They're still isolationist xenophobes. They were holding onto Ashenvale just fine. It was Legion supported orcs that killed Cenarius.

It took not one but two world ending threats for nelfs to even consider teaming up with what they thought of as lesser races. And the way they see it, it was them that ended it.
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>>383890385
they were hanging with the Tauren just fine, the problem has always been that the orcs were cutting down trees
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>>383889654
>There's absolutely no reason why NElfs would have joined the Alliance
"Why would we join this group who is trying to stop the people cutting down our forest?"
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>>383890525
>"Why would we join this group who is trying to stop the people cutting down our forest?"
Humans were cutting down their forest too. Did you not play WC3?
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>>383890574
Humans stopped doing it after they were brought together by Medivh. The orcs kept doing it afterwards because Thrall was too much of a spineless pussy to risk more conflict with the Warsong.
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>still no ogres
MOGOR KILL
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>>383888251
Get your reasonable opinions out of here, orc-lover.
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So why Taurens are still with Horde?
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>>383890681
>Orcs were enslaved by Ogres
>Ogres *Join Horde*
>Horde become even shittier union.
>
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>>383890681
>still no ogre females
Not that I'm itching to see any, but then again, after all this time it's a bit weird. Do they reproduce asexually or something? Surely they're out there considering Rexxar is half-ogre too, meaning that wasn't an asexual kid.
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>>383890765
Because Orcs prevented their extinction.
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>>383890765
Because Orcs saved them from the Centaurs
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>>383890792
There are, but they just aren't depicted in-game.
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>>383890765
Baine wants to honour his father's pact.
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>tfw human rogue
>became such a menace on my server that there were guild hunts for me whenever someone spotted me doing dailies
>can't even play my main now because of Rep even when I quit for a year or two at a time
Horde babies don't like to get sapped apparently.
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>>383890667
>>383890665
It's quite the leap from "kill all trespassers" to "let's open our borders and create a military alliance with a foreign power an ocean away."

So they stopped logging. Great. That means suddenly their best friends? Nelfs suddenly become an open society and trade dignitaries and even set up Elftown in Stormwind? All in the span of a few years?
Does that even make sense?
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>>383890765
*Blocks your Horde leaving*
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>alliance makes more sense
lmao, do you even lore faggot?
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>still no Arakkoa in the Alliance
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>>383890847
And they'd have to be if they were to make ogres playable.

>We will never get female ogres that are just cute, fat-assed girls that look nothing like ogre men
why
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>>383890765
for the same reason forsaken is part of the horde
because fuck lore
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>>383890885
Yes? They can't stand alone against the Legion, and the humans fought well in defense of their lands. They realised that the time for isolation was done.
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>>383888043
No the ones that formed the Scarlet Crusade because Forsaken and Scourge kept killing everyone
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>Tfw Blizzard has completely forgotten all about him
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>trolls get cucked out of being warchief
Get off my planet, mon
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>>383891065
holy fuck

has everyone at blizzard lost their fucking minds
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>Are you scared, boy?
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>>383887797
>Not laughing at the greatest wow material ever

Who the fuck thinks having a funeral in wow is a good idea.
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>>383891271
Considering Blizzard made Magatha Grimtotem of all fucking people a Shaman class hall champion, yes. They literally do not give a fucking shit anymore.
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>>383889102
>alliance frequently uses those few humans to try to muscle the forsaken out of their territory.
>scarlet crusade was initially backed by the alliance.
>uses Southshore as a base to launch incursions into forsaken territory
>"wtf, why are the forsaken killing all these humans?".
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>>383891352
the same people who are still playing or got married in wow
roleplaying retards?
>>
Rank these races in order of intelligence:
Kobald
Murloc
Furbolg
Gnoll
Tauren
Centaur
Ogre
Human
Gnome
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>>383887797
>but what the alliance did at that horde players funeral was simply disgusting
That was funny as fuck. Get a sense of humor
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Vol'jin was the Ulysses S. Grant of warchiefs
>commander of the winning side of a civil war
>became leader of his nation afterward
>was complete shit at it, and was known more for what he did before becoming leader
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>>383890885
>"kill all trespassers"
was it? there were intelligent races like tauren and furbolgs that moved through elven territory just fine
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>>383887797
Alliance has always been filled with the absolute most edgy players. It's just that when Belves came around, most switched to Horde.
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>>383891154
>scarlet crusade
>A literal terrorist group funded by the alliance to fight a proxy war.
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>>383891635
>Bunch of jews holed up in a fortress in the middle of Nazi Germany
>WE BETTER WIPE THEM OUT THEY'RE LITERALLY A TERRORIST GROUP BEING TOTALLY MEAN TO NAZIS!
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>>383891725
>Scarlet Crusade
>Not the Nazis
Are you fucking high or just stupid
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When will blizzard just fuck off with special little zones that are just garrison 2.0 and just understand that a kick ass faction city is all you need?

Just make a city with shit to do. Stop wasting resources with class/player specific shit that ends up underused anyway.

Legion did a pretty decent job filling the world with stuff and interesting locations but its just small. Really small.

Blizz needs to stop blowing their load on features that players barely use for the main game. Sending people on missions isn't interesting, waiting around for a timer isn't interesting.

The only reason class halls were even cool was because of the music (paladins only though)
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>>383891482
>Implying the Crusade wasn't 100% justified in their actions
The Forsaken have been slaughtering innocents literally from day one of Sylvanas taking charge so that she could have more meat shields
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>>383891725
>not wiping out the last stronghold of jews for the reich
>>
I want pandaren to breed me.
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>>383891761
I don't know, I kind of like order halls, hanging around with others of your class has something neat about it

Dalaran is a god tier city anyway, so I don't mind much, just wish they'd left the sewers intact
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>>383891761
Are they even making another expansion after Legion?
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>Taurens will leave
>Undeads and BElves will leave
>Ogres will never join


Horde's days are numbered
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>>383892029
Jesus Christ you're retarded
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>>383892019
That model change was way, way overdue though, there didn't need to be a specific reason for it
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>>383891761
Paladin class hall music is literally Halls of Valor music and it's garbage
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>>383891725
>"T-that crazy cult of religious zealots is just sitting there minding their own business"
>"never mind the fact that they're constantly launching skirmishes against the forsaken, are completely paranoid, and think that everyone who isn't part of their cult is actually the scourge in disguise."
>"The forsaken are LITERAL NAZIS for fighting back against them!"

You going to defend isis next anon?
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>>383892093
Baine's been in the game for far, far longer than Gallywix has existed. Predates him by years.
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>>383892089
Haven't played WoW since BC. Just looked up the release date for Legion. I thought it came out in 2014 for some reason
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>>383891761
Also make deathknights and forsaken chaotic again.
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>>383892153
The Forsaken started slaughtering humans before they even knew the Scarlets existed. Get Blizzard's dick out of your mouth you fucking retard.
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>>383892153
>Forsaken aren't a NAZI
>Invades Gilneas (literally just sitting there minding their own business)
>>
why are undead and blood elves part of the horde
>>
Why are Night Elves part of the Alliance?
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>>383892167
So? He never needed a model change
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>>383892019
To be fair, no one really cares about Baine. People have been clambering for a Gallywix model for years, though
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>>383892314
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>>383892314
The undead because Blizzard doesn't give a shit about the lore.
Blood elves because they were needed allies to rejoin with Kael'thas and the Alliance wouldn't take kindly to their Draenei-exterimating angel-raping ways.
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>>383892314
Horde was the only one of the big two factions willing to take the forsaken in
Blood Elves were too butthurt about garithos to consider joining the alliance
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>>383892303
>silverpine struggles with a worgen insurgency for years.
>discover the land just south of it is also filled with worgen.
>not sending an army there to remove dogbisquit.

Are you retarded, anon?
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>>383892314
Blood elves are horde because Garithos was a shithead. They stayed horde because Jaina lost her shit and started killing/imprisoning any horde in Dalaran after the whole Bell thing, ruining Varian's attempts to pull Lor'themar back to the alliance
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>>383882827
Funny I was the exact opposite.
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>>383892283
>started fending off alliance soldiers trying to force them of their land.

fixed it for you
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>>383892434
thanks for saving us from the bloodelves papap
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>>383892489
Gilneas was infected with the worgen curse SECONDS before the forsaken attacked
so they didn't discover shit, they just wanted to take the land
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>>383892390
>M-Muh double standards

>>383892398
Fuck off asshole
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>Blizzard will never write a story that involves races moving to new factions because people will bitch and moan

God forbid they do something interesting
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>>383886556
>getting a tattoo of the PANDAREN horde symbol
how can anyone be this retarded?
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>>383892019
wasnt there a rogue quest to steal shit from him?
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>>383892635
>Hey guys. We want revenge against that dreadlord over there, you want your city back. How about we team up to kill him, and then we fuck off?
>Sounds good
>Wtf that was such a one-sided deal how dare you try to force us from our land we're going to slaughter you and everyone else who isn't undead now
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>>383892314
Belves needed protection to reach Kael'thas' promised land. In return they helped the Horde find the Mag'har.
The Forsaken because the Horde needed a second front on the EK, apparently.
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>>383892398
>>no one really cares about Baine.
>source: my ass
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>>383892705
Jaina should have tried that beef instead of going for a dragon.
>>
Do the Forsaken even need to eat food or drink water to survive? Do they get effected by the elements? Do they get exhausted? Can they die from old age?
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>>383892716
Factions need to be deleted once and for all. They serve absolutely no fucking purpose, and only work to split the community up, as well as give people a reason to target the lore characters, and not Blizzard themselves.
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>>383892705
What double standards? What are you on about? Baine looks similar enough to his model already, Gallywix looked nothing like it. Stop getting mad about something like that.
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>>383883142
>playing orc warrior in bc
>decide to capture those pvp towers just cause
>2/3 so far
>human pld out of nowhere comes down
>catches me off guard and kills me cause of course he's ret
>spams "YOU LOSE ME LOVE YOU" as I die
>whatever, run back to my body and try once more for the last tower
>kills me again while I'm still recovering
>spams that love you shit again
>switch to my highest level Tauren warrior
>fly to the area and find that asshole camping the area where my orc died
>proceed to fuck him up
>he casts his God bubble and starts to teleprompter home spamming "Y O U L O S E ME L O V E Y O U"
>not this time you little asshole
>shatter his puss bubble and proceed to kill him
>takes him 5 minutes to rez
>suspecting he's calling for help from guild
>nope he's waiting for his God bubble to recharge, maybe it was a fluke he died
>spawns, fly down upon him like a pheonix
>he tires to stun me and God bubble away while spamming that he loves me
>wellwellwell.txt
>my bubble shatter has recharged as well
>shatter his shit and then shatter his asshole
>he logs off to go make a lvl 1 horde to whisper why I'm killing him
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>>383892689
>seconds
>worgen curse spreads before Deathwing memes the wall
>forsaken invade after Deathwing memes the wall.

there have to be a couple of months between them at least. most likely several years
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>>383893001
Please tell me how Baine looks anything remotely similar to this.
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>>383893014
why did you have 2 warriors?
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>>383892705
>>383892869
>"I've done literally nothing since my father died" the character
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I envision a Death Battle where the first horde led by Black Hand and Gul'dan goes through the portal but something goes wrong and instead of landing on Azeroth they instead land and begin attacking the land of pic related.
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Notice how all the best WoW videos made during vanilla/tbc were made with Alliance characters?
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>>383893153
>Was a major character in the War Crimes novel and was apart of the siege of Orgrimmar
>Blaming a character when it's the writers fault they get dropped for no reason
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How can Taurens become Paladins
How can Dwarves become Warlocks and Mages
How can Orcs be Mages
Why can every race be a Warrior
Why aren't Druid and Shaman Humans playable when those race and classes combinations are lore-friendly
Why don't spell casters hold their weapons or staff when channeling magic rather than being on their back or waist
What is the point of farming and tending crops when Mages can just conjure food and water
Why aren't both factions able to understand their opposing faction - surely a lot of time has passed, somebody must have worked on translating languages
Why is Thrall balding, did he get JUST'd by genetics
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>>383882827
childhood is playing on a PvP server
adulthood is realizing that sitting on a PvP server with 10:1 ratios isn't all that fun
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>>383893092
Had the cow cause it was my first, didn't want to dish out for a name/race change cause of issues at the time, then wanted to lvl up an orc female as fury in my downtime

Stupid I know, but sometimes I'd want to level a certain race for the animations
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>>383892743
probably a furry, so yeah retarded
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>>383893034
IIRC the Worgen player starts with the city being suddenly overrun by worgen and undeads breaking in shortly after
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>>383893270
Thrall is balding because he is literally becoming Metzen, just green
>Elements tell him to fuck himself for cheating in honorable combat
I'm glad something knocked him off his christ pedestal. Go'el was a mistake
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>>383893270
>Why aren't both factions able to understand their opposing faction - surely a lot of time has passed, somebody must have worked on translating languages
Further complicating that, the Forsaken literally used to speak Common, but somehow forgot it and learned Orcish when they died.
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>>383892689
actually after you get bitten a couple of weeks pass
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>>383893274
This. I'm on tich but world pvp just feels like shit on retail.

Feels good on vanilla servers though.
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>>383882827
My personal experience says the opposite.

Raiding as alliance was painful with all the squeaky voices on vent.
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>>383892314
Honestly, Gameplay reasons
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>>383889335
>Outlands
It's Outland, not Outlands.
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>>383887797
seems like its only ok if the Grove-Street faggots do it to the Ballas huh?
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>>383893270
>How can Taurens become Paladins
They're Sunwalkers, aka plate-armored Tauren Druids that use the power of the sun
>How can Dwarves become Warlocks and Mages
Probably from being around Gnomes so much
>How can Orcs be Mages
Warlocks are just Mages that use fel
>Why can every race be a Warrior
Everyone can pick up a sword and swing it
>Why aren't Druid and Shaman Humans playable when those race and classes combinations are lore-friendly
Because humans are more attuned to the Light than they are the nature or the elements
>Why don't spell casters hold their weapons or staff when channeling magic rather than being on their back or waist
Because Blizzard are lazy hacks
>What is the point of farming and tending crops when Mages can just conjure food and water
Because not everyone has a pocket mage, and mage food disappears after awhile
>Why aren't both factions able to understand their opposing faction - surely a lot of time has passed, somebody must have worked on translating languages
They can, it's just gameplay reasons why Horde and Alliance players can't communicate
>Why is Thrall balding, did he get JUST'd by genetics
He shaved his head
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>tfw you don't give a fuck about the factions, just pick whatever side is the most populous on the server
>>
So, Is Blizzard just fucking arounds with Dataminers with the Kul Tiras leveling armor on PTR or they really just fucked up and put it up.
>>
Is there any reason to play WoW instead of FFXIV at this point?
>>
Onyxia attunement:
>Run BRD until you're sick of it
or
>Run BRS until you're sick of it
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>>383893353
there clearly was a time skip in between those.
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>>383893574
2.5s gcd
and art style tastes are different
i cant stand to look at ff seems to me like a game full of bloodelves
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>>383893398
They used to in beta, however it was removed for balance reasons.
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>>383893574
are FFXIV-fags the Dota-fags of WoW-Threads?
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>>383893721
Couldn't have been terribly long.
Presumably when captured they recognise worgen you for you from your clothes.
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>>383882827
Why does blizzard keep creating so many throw away characters when they already have a gigantic cast? Why don't they just write stories about those ones? The only interesting thing in the game is sly on the horde and manduin/grey on the alliance.

Nothing else. And if Wod is anything to go by then any interesting subplot will just be randomly dropped for one of these characters.
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>>383893954
Because it'd expose the glaring flaws in continuity that Blizzard introduces at every turn.
>>
Will the final boss of WoW be Sargeras or one of the Void Lords
>>
>>383893832
no

vanillafags are the dotafags of wow-threads
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>"We are the windchimes of justice! Wherever evil rears its head, we will be there!"
>Absent during the events of WotLK
>Absent during the events of Cata
>Absent during the events of MoP
>Absent during the events of WoD
>"Aha, but that wasn't the Legion, now was it?"
>Absent during Legion

What gives?
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>>383894047
It'll probably be Anduin.
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>>383882827
Alliance for life you greenskin cucks.
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>>383894047
sargeras gets dealth with in legion he doesnt get killed he just gets trapped forever
voidlords are next expansion probably
there wont really be a final final boss of wow they will just stop making expansion at some point and the last boss of that expansion will be the last boss then
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>>383893954
Because the current writers are complete fucking hacks that don't understand the importance of the characters they do have, and have trouble figuring out how said characters could fit into different scenarios. Blizzard would rather keep killing off their characters in a Family Guy/Simpsons-esque way to try and get people to come back to the game. They feel as if they need to kill off the characters they're not using, which is the absolute worst resort.

>>383894047
Who even fucking cares at this point.
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>>383893954
They pretty much already killed all of the interesting old characters or ruined them by awful writing.
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>>383894096
>>Absent during Legion
no they arent

but the quests invovling them are so cringeworthy id advise you to not look it up
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>>383882827
>Want to play Alliance
>Server is 85% Horde
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>>383893883
must have at least been enough time for
>the wall to get meme'd
>the forsaken to send scouts past the wall and send their reports back
>the Forsaken army to mobilise.
>the Forsaken army to push all the way to where it is when you start your first quest as a worgen.
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>>383893505
Right sorry,
I like ganking people in outlands.
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>>383894107
>Anduin gets S H A D O W E D and becomes the final boss of WoW
mmmm i can already see the expansion
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>>383894138
>voidlords are next expansion probably
>discover the source of the voidlords
>learn that you can't destroy the void because everything has to be in balance and the light would implode without the void
>"THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A VOIDLORD!"
>next expansion is even more Illidan
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>>383891206
It's a shame Blizzard won't revisit the watchers
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>>383894107
Why?
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>>383892440
>forced to kill my own leader or raid my own city
i sure love being horde
>>
>>383894172
Can you give me a quick rundown?
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>>383890049
Horde is for skinnyfat losers who make tough, mean looking characters because in real life they're neutered faggot.
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>>383894172
Xe'ra hardly counts, because she just prophecies for you and then promptly dies when you meet her.
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>Gilneas
>Good thing we built this wall to keep everyone out
>OH FUCK IS THAT A BOAT
>JESUS CHRIST THAT'S A FUCKING BOAT
>OH MY GOD WE'RE SO FUCKED
>HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED
>Proceeds to get raped by werewolves as they get bombed with the plague
>>
I always played alliance because I like stormwind and ironforge better than horde cities
>>
>>383893278
Why you hate taurens tho?
>>
>>383894409
acshually the cataclysm related earthquakes fucked their wall
>>
>be alliance
>play as a female draenei shaman
>be a good kid
>decide to take a walk because mom keeps saying i have to lose weight or she won't have a grandson
>live in bad neighborhood because mom has to support my neet lifestyle and i can't get autismbux anymore
>see pack of nigger thugs walking down the street
>i wish i could remove the whole world of them
>cross the street and walk on the other sidewalk
>decide to head into the 7-11 to grab some mountain dew and butterfingers for the walk back
>take out phone to ask mom if she needs anything because i'm a good boy
>someone grabs the phone out of my hands
>one of the niggers from before
>"AYYYYO HOL UP FO A MINUTE *lip smack* HOLLUP SENPAI HOL UP LEMME BORROW THIS FOR A MINNIT SENPAI AIIIIIIIGHT?"
>keep calm as fuck on the outside i might be chubby and weak, but on the inside im an expert chessmaster, i can resolve any situation
>i didn't want to do this unless i had to
>unleash my geass and stare directly at the nigger with my phone
>"AYYYYY DIS NIGGA HAAAAAAAAA HHHAAAAAAAAAAA DIS NIGGA *lip smack* DIS NIGGA THINK HE HARD AS FUCK GIVIN ME THAT LOOK THO HUH SENPAI"
>other niggers smack their lips in agreement
>main nigger punches me in the gut
>what the fuck is happening, why didn't it work?
>"B-bastard... you won't get away with this you ape..."
>niggers activate full dindu protocols, they all start screeching and beating their chests
>while they're distracted, i have time to cast my ultimate technique
>take a wide stance, start wiggling my fingers
>i can feel the heat of the earth entering my fingertips, no doubt scorching magma is accumulating in between my two hands
>the niggers stop chimping out and stare
>i am one with the earthmother, i close my eyes and embrace her as heat courses through me
>"LAAAAVVVVAAAAAAA BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRSSSST"
>open my eyes
>niggers are still there
>get stabbed
>in hospital for a week
>thinking back on what the problem was
>realize I didn't gem my equipment like a fucking retard
>>
>>383894409
there used to be giants rocks that prevented boats from approaching
but they shattered when deathwing fucked everything up
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>>383893014
Warriors didn't have shattering throw until Wrath.
Your story is fake as fuck, wrath babby.
>>
>>383894245
Couple of weeks, maybe?
It's not like the PC has any idea what's going on outside the city prior to the worgening, the Forsaken could very well have been there already.
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>>383894409
They were protected by reefs, only Gilneans knew how to navigate them. Then the Cataclysm happened and it was clear sailing.
>>
>>383894491
not worth the read 2/10
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>>383892314
Blood elves literally have to be apart of the horde or the undead will literally murder them, at the moment the forsaken are helping blood elves fight off the undead in the dead scar, if they leave they have to deal with both and they're pretty much going to lose silvermoon 100%.
>>
>>383894336
Blizzard poetry.
>Develop a character
>They grow and become admirable. Players build a relationship with them.
>Through good intentions, fall from grace
>Redeemed before death
Whoa. Blizzard writes such bittersweet arcs. What a fitting end for them. It echoes of Greek tragedies from days past. What propelled them to greatness became the means of their ultimate defeat.
>>
>Gul'Dan is dead
>Literally the last interesting lore character
>They bring back Illidan to banter in a scenario and dungeons before giving him a Lich King ending
>Now the only half neat characters are Khadgar Archmeme and Lich King 2.0

Can't we just have some rogue Warlocks bring Gul'Dan's soul back from the nether in a final "post" Legion patch?

I'd like to think he'd be pissed off about getting thrown to the dogs while his useless Legion masters failed at everything they ever did, and it's not like Illidan will be around to say shit about it.

Horde Advisor, random Wrathion tier NPC, fucking something.
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>>383894539
they couldn't because the wall wasn't meme'd yet
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>>383894675
The scouts I'm talking about.
They were in Gilneas prior to the Cataclysm breaking the Wall.
>>
undead rogue
>>
>we need everyone to work together to stop the legion..now more than ever.

*raises paw*

Why didn't they bother asking help from their allies in alternate draenor or outland? Didn't Yrel from WoD say something like, "if you need us again, we'll be here"
>>
>>383894794
Because even Blizzard doesn't want to acknowledge the shitshow that was WOD
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>>383893056
oops
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>>383882827
Hordes were always cunts, idiots and edgelords. Growing up doesn't change that.
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>>383894592
what started this shit-tier writing?
was it the success of shit like GoT or TWD?
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>>383894830
and then bases the entire first half of the expansion on WoD Gul'dan
Blizzard is truly brilliant
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>>383894794
why doesn't the horde disband, the orcs go home to Draenor, the high elves stop being autistic, the dwarves and humans settle back down and focus on fighting the foresaken or at least coming to terms with them and the Tauren/night elves become best buds?

the Horde-Alliance war is complete nonsense now
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>>383894782
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
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>>383894641
>2 (two) expansions to fight against Gul'Dan
>Finally dies
>Oopsy Daisy he lives again :^)

Surely people will love that
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>>383893092
>level 3 dks for reasons on my account
>brother account , level dk/druid/war
>cousin account repeat dk/druid/war
>friend account level dk/druid/war/hunter
if i was a speed-leveling faggot most likely i would have leveled more classes on the others accounts
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>>383882827
>Not playing femtroll
What's wrong with you?
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>>383894937
>Tauren and Night Elves get along the most out of all of the other races
>Blizzard trying to deny it in such lazy manners
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>>383894540
>>383894497
But the forsaken arrived on boats before Deathwing fucked it all.
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>>383890861
>Nobody has any idea who you are.
>Random players decide to randomly kill you.
OMG! They are all out to get me. Entire guilds must be after me.
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>>383895047
b-but why
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>>383895138
no
there were several quakes before and after deathwing jumped out of the maelstrom

they removed the rocks protecting gilneas and alllowed the forsaken to attack from the coast

they also damaged the wall enough so that they could start attacking from ground

this all happened while you were running wild after getting bitten
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>>383894779
source?
How would they have gotten in?
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>Orcs come to Azeroth for the purpose of raping and pillaging
>get fucked over by demons
>would habe happily killed every last human even without any corruption
>WE DIN NO THE DEMONS WUD B MEEN WHY DONT YOU LIKE US YOU RAYCISS HOOMAN
Orcs are the bad guys
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>>383895227
while i played on others acounts i wasn't paying mine
so i leveled out of boredon/nothing better to do / to make gold
the 3 dks thing? (oh i was leveling 2 mages (asides from main)
my server / friend server / server i may go
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>>383882827
>I play alliance because I'm mature

Anon, you're playing the same game an autist would, there is no pride in that
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>>383895393
Why are you spacing like that.
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>>383895127
B U L L E D
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>>383895610

>>383895393

>REDDIT

>SPACING
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>>383895438
Source would be fighting the Forsaken in the quests before the actual Cataclysm happened.
>>383895393 is probably on the money, though I can imagine border security being less vigilant with their internal issues.
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>>383895623
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>>383895052
Because tauren > troll
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>>383895047
I leveled six DKs to 70 before deleting them just because Outland is so fun.
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>>383895610
to make it easier to read
>>383895656
fuck you and fuck this retarded meme
ive never posted a singel fucking post on reddit and i always get retards like talking shit just because it like paragraphs THAT ARENT A FUCKING EYESORE TO LOOK AT
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>>383895668
can you specifically name the quest?
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I don't get it. So can the Forsaken 'reproduce' by raising more of their own or can they not?

Have belf tits in return
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>>383895764
>gets called out on reddit spacing
>stops doing reddit spacing in his response
That's right, fall in line, boy
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>>383895841
That armor looks impractical as fuck.
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>>383895841
Also why are Forsaken only undead humans at this point? You'd think Sylvannas would raise some other races
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>>383895841
They can't - As far as I remember the whole of Legion has Sylvanas running around trying to find a way to live forever.
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>>383895906
>cloth armor
>practical
?????????
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>>383895764
>to make it easier to read
I think most 12 year olds don't need extra-spacing to differentiate between lines in a text
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>>383895764
Makes it look stupid to read, way too much space for no reason, it's not like you typed out a paragraphs.
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>>383895906
It's practical as fuck - You can tell the amount of mana a belf has by the size of her tits - so obviously they need to be visible.
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>>383895914
She has promised not raising BEs by what's-his-name and she plans to hold that promise due to her past.
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>>383893558
wat?
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>>383895989
>Source: My dick.
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>>383893225
Warcraft in the next Warriors Orochi would be neat.
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>>383894947
ONE
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>>383895782
Seems to start with Invasion. Then there's 6 or 7 more quests until the actual Cataclysm.
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>>383895989
it's not advisable to outright show your powerlevel
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>>383896150
CRIMINAL
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we dont have a pic or list of removed / cut content?
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>normally play alliance
>roll horde for fun
>check out UC
>go to apothecary wing
>live humans and dwarves naked in cages
>lobotomized human female npc is following around an ud male npc
>literal holocaust

how did they get away with this?
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>>383895841
Why are there so few B-cup blood elves?
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>>383896093
>implying my dick is wrong
Gargle my seed of truth anon.
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>>383882827
childhood is playing vanilla wow
adulthood is realizing nothing will ever fill the void in your heart
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>>383896353
Thinking with your dick makes you stupid.
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>>383896437
It was thinking with our dicks that got us this far, show some respect.
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>>383896393
>He doesn't play Elder Tale
Too bad it doesn't exist ;_;
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>>383896271
Undead DINDU NUFFIN YA HEARD ME?
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>>383896271
Whenever a new big bad emerges everyone gets dementia about everything else.
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>>383896474
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>>383895623
What are the terms for all races, anyway?

ELFED
DWARFED
GNOMED
GOATED
WOLFED
BEARED
ORCED
CORPSED
TROLLED
BULLED
JEWED
ELFED (let's be real, no one gets elfed by BE:s)
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>>383882827
>Join WoW six months before BC
>Love BC
>fastforward until Wrath launch
>Level frost DK, love the ability to both kite and AoE farm
>Realise when I hit 80 the game isn't fun when all your friends have quit and there is no more content until the next patch
>Quit in early February 2009 and never return
Fuck modern WoW.
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>>383896983
>TROLLED
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>>383895052
I'm still upset about them removing cutefase.
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>>383897172
its always been like that though thats not just a problem modern wow has
there comes a point were you have done everything
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>>383896983
>no one gets elfed by BE:s)
Theramore did.
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>>383897389
Yeah, but with Vanilla/BC you had actual progression, whereas Wrath you had only a single viable raid tier.
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>>383896983
Belfs (both males and females) cuckqueans all the other females.
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>>383897429
Heh
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>not being a fucking Dorf since your king is now made of fucking DIAMOND
Fuck off council and dark iron cucks
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>>383882827
That just makes childhood superior to adulthood.
>>
I miss vanilla.
It's a shame no private server will ever recreate the magic of it.
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>>383897959
What about Belf mages?
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>>383897959
I play Blood Elves because I like them lore-wise.
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>Horde
ooga booga where da elf whimmins at?
WHHHAAAARRG!
muh green jesus warlord

>alliance
lol genocide
we must secure the existence of our people and a future for human children.
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>>383897959
>male draenei
>not the absolut worst player imagineable
everything else is kind of accurate
even if most female characters are generally cancer
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>>383899182
Nothing is worse than a fempanda in my opinion.
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>>383897959
>female tauren
>most likely a milf IRL
God damn, it's so true. When I was in high school the mom of one of my friends played WoW and was a female tauren
>>
Should I even bother getting into this game? Every single thread is repeating that its shit since Vanilla but I want to give it a try, at least for the free trial.
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>>383899673
It's not a bad game - most of the complaints arise from people who played it in the past to see what could've been.
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>>383899043
>WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE KIDS? HUMAN KIDS? FUCK THE REST!
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>>383899673
not without friends
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I love how horde fags still play the muh noble savage card


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Orcs - Invaders from another world, responsible for two of the bloodiest wars the world had ever seen. They were also pawns of the Burning Legion. They have on numerous occasions attempted to destroy ancestral forests of the Night Elves. That's all pre-Garrosh. Garrosh then attempted to take over the world, subjugated numerous civilizations, and was genocidal. Yes, logically we can say not all orcs are like that. But to tie this to real world, people hate !@#$'s.

Forsaken - Just a branch of undead from the Lich King. Only a matter of time until they wipe us all out.

Blood Elves - They used to be allies of the Humans. They had desecrated those ties by joining the Horde. The Night Elves hate them since they are the outcasts who had initially summoned the Burning Legion. That and they persecuted and drove out all the Draenei from Outland.

Tauren - Tauren are pretty chill, they could even by allies with the Alliance. But unfortunately, they're a bunch of orc sympathizers.

Trolls - The oldest enemies of the Humans. Oldest enemies of the Elves. Sided with the Orcs during the first two wars, siding with them now.

Goblins - They destroy the environment, are manipulative, and only care about themselves. That and they've sided with the Horde. That and they pervert technology in the Gnome's eyes.
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>>383882827
Jesus christ STV is a fucking nightmare for alliance in vanilla, good thing I'm a rogue. Where are some good places to gank lowbie hordies /v/?
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>>383900263
is there even any conflict at all in the alliance? they seem to be happy friends and horde a bunch of misfits that have to stick together or die alone against the alliance
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>>383900428
well there was the council of three hammers
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>>383900428
Literally the only source of conflict in the Alliance is when the Horde slaughters people and they want to defend themselves. These people are always portrayed as bloodthirsty maniacs.
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>>383900582
oh yeah but thats only a conflict between the dwarves
and isnt the king dwarf back now but is a living diamond?
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>>383900654
yup
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>>383893014
not calling him L t A A F
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also orcs tried to genocide 2 races, killed a demigod

and still horde fags think that they only want to live in peace
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>>383891065
>Haven't played Horde in years
>taking my once Tauren now Dwarf Shaman through class quests
>See this
REEEEEE indeed
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>>383900263
>That and they've sided with the Horde
Yeah, one cartel sided with them not the entire race
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>>383892489
Sylvanas literally uses undead plague bombs that are explicitly states to have no effect on worgen but only turn humans undead.
Sylvanas literally kills Genn's son infront of him then laughs about it. The foresaken are iredeemably evil and the scarlet crusade were justified. And the scourge were in the eastern plaguelands attacking them too. Play the dk starting zone
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A girl wants to play on a vanilla private server with me. Should I do it or will it destroy what we have between us?
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>>383882827
Should be the other way around? Kids love human, knights, paladins, golden armor and shit. Only after you grown up will you start piquing interests in Orcs, Zergs, Goblins, Dark Elves...
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>>383900263
>But unfortunately, they're a bunch of orc sympathizers.
It's a pact you twit.
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>>383901349
Not many kids play WoW, most start as edgy teens
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>>383896271
One dude in the Scarlet Crusade was a demon with a grudge against Sylvanas so they're perfectly justified in everything they do because people that don't like them are bad guys
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>>383901236
>Scarlet Crusade
>Justified
uh huh sure
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rip some troll and undead I just murdered
I did this for you /v/
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>>383886567

The most dominant race in WoW is Blood Elves. Are you implying to me that the most dominant race isn't entirely pieces of shit?
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>>383901660
>Dead people ally with Space Invaders and complaining about someone hates them
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>>383900263
>'noble savage' card
Literally nobody does this
>not wanting to bitch slap some faggot alliance pretty boys and cuck them out of their world
>not wanting to raze their twee little nonce villages to the ground
>not wanting to hear the lamentations of their women as they are driven before you
Alliancemongs truly are inferior specimens
But sure, go ahead and continue making slutmog Draenei priests
Also we'll be right here whenever you want to trade worgen or dorfs for faggot ass blood elves
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>>383901660
>Get attacked by dead people who's city creedo is "death to the scourge and death to the living" on one side
>On the other side get harassed by the scourge and occasionally raided by death knights
"Lol those scarlet crusaders sure are crazy paranoid XDDD"
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>>383901694
You're doing your people proud
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>>383901694
kings honor
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daily reminder
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>>383899605
Our co-guild leader was also a mom,a female tauren and she was also good at AH. I don't understand how this happens.
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>>383899673
Give the free trial a try. As much as I hate nu-wow I still think it can be enjoyable if you've never played it.
>>
I want a perfectly functional offline WOW version with all quests working and ability to fight all bosses alone.
That would be perfect game to me.
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>>383882827
Adulthood is actually realizing that you shouldn't play shitty MMORPGs
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>>383903071
>set up my own wow tbc server
>multibox 8 characters in the same account autoattacking first kara boss
not that skills worked anyway this was during wotk
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the only good thing that ever came out of the Horde was “KEK“
And since you could only appreciate it as an alliance player, there wasn't a single reason to become a literal subhuman
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>>383903071
if you like the lore, come help us on wowpedia mate
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So, how would I get into the game again nowadays? I'm a Draenor babby that stopped playing almost 2 years ago. I really like the lore and stuff, I don't really care about minmaxing or being at the top, I just wanna enjoy the ride.
Do I go about following questlines and learning about stuff as I go? Is there a good path I could follow that would show me everything the game has to offer, or do I have to create all characters for that?
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>>383901694
A true Alliance hero
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>>383903828
Say irl IRL to my face fucker and not online
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>>383902628
Thal'dranath just got cut for Argus, not an actual big deal like Farahlon or Azjol'Nerub - it was just another Legion infested shitisle
>>
Scourge faction fucking when?
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>>383889751
Not when Wrath exists.
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>>383900405
Stonetalon
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>>383884532
I remember you Cairne. Best boy in the orc campaign.

The entire outcome of Cata, MoP and WoD would have been totally different if Thrall had realised putting a young, inexperienced, hot-headed, supremacist in charge wasn't such a good idea.
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>>383883142
>playing horde
>see other people spamming this weird jumble of text
>don't understand
>play ally
>running around a pvp area
>horde swoops down screaming LOL NIGGA killing everyone in sight
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>>383905753
This
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>>383899605
>>383902648
It was the exact same for me. Co-guild leader was wife of the Guild Leader and had something like 5 kids, used to dole out gold to anyone who needed it. Most of the female tauren players I know are women.
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>>383891065
>double question marks
but otherwise, fuck blizzard
>>
Who is ready for Sylvanas to sacrifice herself to save Alleria from her Void Powers?
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>>383902628
that's nothing, wod had at least 4 zones cut. in the expansion that only had one major content patch and they said they wanted to releases expansions more frequently at a higher cost.
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>>383901253
she will easily find a bunch of turbonerds to take care of her attention needs and you will be ditched
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>>383907203
Hopefully that happens so we get Garrosh but undead as the forsaken leader and have the exact same story arc.
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>>383905772
>horde swoops down screaming LOL NIGGA killing everyone in sight
kek
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>>383893558
Naga and N'zoth launch an invasion of Kul'Tiras which magically re-appears! while we're sealing Sargeras

Azshara then uses corrupted Alleria to assist in raising Nazjatar to the surface because everyone cried about Vashj'ir
>>
Varian is the biggest dindu in the series
>>
For real though, what the fuck was Thrall thinking putting Gallywix in charge? That was one of the dumbest fucking things in the entire WoW universe. No fucking wonder the Horde is such a pile of shit.

Unrelated note, but I want a gangbang with Chromie, Addie, and Lulu Fizzlebang.
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>>383908308
What has Varian ever done wrong aside from losing his spine when it comes to the Horde?
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>>383906215
>my raid leader during my second tbc guild was something like blood elf priest
>husband was a druid female tauren
bitch was a drama queen
>>
>tfw Jaina didn't dismantle the Horde after SoO
>tfw fucking pansy ass Pandas ruined everything
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>>383882827
>game is over 12 years old
>people/kids still care about this shit
>>
>S
dwarf
orc
>A
human
tauren
troll
>B
undead
male goblins
male draenei
>kill yourself
everything else
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>>383908308
>everyone expects varian to fix stormwind after dragons fucked everything up
>create a massive homeless problem and dumps them in westfall for the farmers and ill-equipped hick militia to deal with
>still won't pay the masons
>front gate and park are destroyed for years
>starts taking in furry refugees
>overloading the stockade with shit like gnolls and elementals
>builds a statue of himself, an even bigger throne room, and launches several large scale wars in a row
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>>383908707
A real human bean.
>>
>>383908650
Finally a tier list I can agree with
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>>383889891
>but holy fuck at least they don't have to suffer the same way Tauren do.
Gnomes still don't even have a capital
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>>383897959
Didn't play this game since 2012 still this was accurate as fuck.
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>>383891065
There was a long while there where Nobundo was my favourite character introduced to Warcraft since WoW came out.
But Blizzard have to fucking ruin everything they create
>>
>>383889654
>>383890063
It should have been Human/Dwarves/Gnomes, NElves/Tauren, Orcs/Trolls, Forsaken. Then you add the Draenei to the NElves, the BElves to the Forskaen, Goblins to the Orcs. They should also have the Trolsl leave the orcs to join the Druid races at one point. Things should have been a lot more flexible than what they are, and players should have been mercenaries.
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>One allows you to play Orc warlock
>The other doesn't

Yeah, alliance is shit.
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>>383889335
>roll mage
>find flyers high up
>pom polymorph
>blink before landing to cancel fall damage
LMAO
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>>383890385
>already low population with people getting killed in the war
>loss of power and immortality
>demons fucked half of ashenvale into felwood and are still there
>orcs destroying elf lands for resources and expansion
it's a mutually beneficial deal like the one the undead have with the horde. normally they would have no reason to ally with anyone else but they're in a strategic location and need the support.
>>
Reminer that Admiral Taylor was a true bro, and didn't deserve to be killed and forgotten in Draenor.
>>
>>383884532
>Your son, Baine, isn't allowed to do fuck all either, and got cut out of the one major sub-story he was planned to have in Highmountain, all because some Alliance players whined about having to help a Horde character

Wait seriously? After all the Velen dicksucking?
>>
>>383909741
Of course. Blizzard wouldn't want to offend somebody's feelings would it?
>>
Was helping low level hordies level in tirisfal glades
make love not warcraft
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>>383909846
forgot pic
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Reminder we'll have Draenei Warlocks next expansion, now that the Legion is "defeated". Also eredar subrace and nightborne subrace
>>
>>383909978
subraces in general probably
or just a new race
>>
I paid to race-change my DK to a female blood elf.

Blood elves are way too sexy, I had to do it.
>>
>>383886556

both factions has the same ragequit spergs, stop comparing
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>>383882827
Childhood is idolizing the Horde because they're edgy.
Adulthood is realizing the Alliance are the bad guys.
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>>383893270
Tauren have been paladins longer than they have not been.
Get over it, bitch nigga.
>>
>>383910356
Please elaborate. I do love Olympic level mental gymnastics.
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>>383897959
>straight edge as fuck
>been male troll since vanilla
I just thought that troll berserkers were the shit in wc3
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Tauren are Stand Users.
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>>383910770
>tfw you can never play as buff trolls even though the model exists in the game
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>>383887945
That's just RP in general, in any given situation and setting.
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>>383900728
mein neger
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>>383909379
This
>>
>21 and under
Horde
>22 and older
Alliance

This has almost always been the case when playing on either side. On Horde guilds you got a lot of young edgy nerds making dick jokes and PVPing a lot, on Alliance you have a lot of old folks talking about their bills and kids.
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Pandaren should have been Alliance only
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>>383911183
>still no choice to be a skinny panda
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>>383882827

Childhood is about joining the Horde because 'muh monsters n' edge n' sheeit.'
Adulthood is playing elves exclusively to look down on all the subhumans on both sides.
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>>383911183
Sure - cause we sure as hell didn't want them.
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>>383883142

>implying Allyfags aren't just as cancerous if not more since all the PVP niggers flock to that faction.
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>>383911183
Pretty much everything should've been Alliance only. Why would anyone join the Horde? You swear yourself into eternal servitude to whomever is the strongest guy at the moment, together with a bunch of straggling refugees with a long history of unprovoked genocidal violence. The Horde should logically be the place for people too stupid or too evil to join the Alliance.
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>>383911183

But that's wrong you fucking retard, in Warcraft 3 Pandaren were a hero class and could be hired by either faction.
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>>383911636
>Not training to be the strongest and therefore become leader
Stupid alliance poster
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>>383901694
That's a turtle though.
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>>383911183
For fucks sake who's that artist, reverse search not working
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>>383884709

>Belfs not a mix of Spain&Italy
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>>383911363
Fag.

I wish you knife-eared fucks were still quarantined to Alliance
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>>383911135

>22 and older = alliance
>ironically complaining shit like a child
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>>383911856

https://exhentai.org/g/998084/fdd4443295/

You'll get a panda.
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Horde has better zones
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>Horde is objectively stronger in both PvE based on wow progress and arenas

Imagine being an allybaby
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>>383912162

>muh edgy faction with mouthbreathing orcs, jewish merchant goblins, smelly trolls, undead edgelords and retarded cow people.

Nigger, if anything Elves brought some much needed sophistication to your shitty faction. Belves are the most aesthetically pleasing race in the game. Best looking city, best looking architecture, interesting lore, one of the best racials in the game, best casters in the game. Only real negative is their fucked character models. They played up the metrosexual shit too hard for the males and the females don't look right with heavy armor.
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>>383912525
They look great as demon Hunter though.
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>>383912525
>retarded cow people
These cow people more wiser than that 'sophisticated' race of yours
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>>383882827
>Horde
New players, bros, and part-time dads

>Alliance
Weebs, Elitists, and Autists

Pick your poison, personally I'll pick the Horde
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>>383883118
I mean, truth be told it depends which race you are born as implying its the real world. The alliance is not going to accept the undead, or a tauren etc.
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>>383912646

This, they actually look better than Nelves. Even the males.
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>>383912663

>lived in literal tipis and were nearly wiped out by rabid race of centaurs.

kek'd. Even the Orcs are more intelligent than those grass grazers. Tauren are a garbage race that can't wear helmets for shit. Only played by single mothers and fat neckbeards that hate 'pretty races.'
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>>383885536
Night elves looks like sand niggers to me.
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>>383884709
lmao the fucking goblins. The blood elfs dont make too much sense besides the fact of their hair.
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Can't wait to murder the fuck out of Sylvanas
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>>383912669
Most of my alliance guild is older dads and 25ish year old couples with like four vocal weebs
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>>383913204
>Can't wait to murder the fuck out of Jaina next xpac
FTFY
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>gnomes were forced into being a playable race for faction "balance"
>only class a gnome should've been is a rogue
>given mage, warrior, and warlock for "balance"
>thus prevented dwarf mages and warlocks, and human hunters

OP is truth but some of the class/race choices are horrible. It makes being Alliance a real chore sometimes.
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>>383913429
Why not both?
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killed two more horde for this thread
>>383911841
body was under the turtle, accidentally hit the screencap button again after the undead released
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>>383901917


>his faction is a bunch of savages with no technologic advantage


keep crying nu male, you only picked horde bc you are an insecure sissy
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>>383913476
Because I actually really like Sylvannas, as a character and all the lore behind her
https://youtu.be/vQTfm6mtp7Y
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>>383913464
At least we have those class race choices now.

Besides, I've always liked gnomes so I don't mind.
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>>383907268
>mfw i started playing wod halfway into the mess
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>>383913589
Doesn't mean she isn't a major threat to anyone that isn't Forsaken, her own allies included.
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reminder that if you play retail you're a faggot
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>>383913663
What's this? Some sort of early alpha stuff?
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>>383912525
it's a shame that BE's look cool as fuck in artwork but retarded and gay in the game

pic related, just look at this motherfucker ready to zap you and then fuck her slut until exhaustion
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>>383913761
And that's part of why I like her. She's staying on track with her goals, and using any and every available method to get there.
She wants her people to survive and not become extinct.
Plus, the Forsaken aren't part of the Horde to be all buddy buddy, they're only there as part of essentially a non-aggression pact. There's a reason Forsaken and Blood Elves are only Friendly with eachother and neutral to all the other Horde races on character creation.

>>383913850
https://youtu.be/wU8IRR87g2o
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>>383914036
>her slut
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>>383914049
>And that's part of why I like her. She's staying on track with her goals, and using any and every available method to get there.

But you have to realize that the only logical outcome of that is for us to eventually kill her. Being a threat to the Alliance and the Horde is being a threat to what has time and time again showed to be the only force capable of saving Azeroth from destruction.
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>>383914036
Agreed.
Blood Elves should be majestic as fuck strong yet refined people, not jokes of looking so feminine they're either gay or mistaken for girls. (like in that quest line about Deathwing's emergence from the Badlands)
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>>383884709

>Night elf = Japanese

wtf, nelves are literally sand niggers

>rides a fucking tiger
>Elune is literally Allah for nelves
>males nelves looks like persian nigger
>Warcraft 3 nelf music sounds like sand nigger music
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>>383914036
>just look at this motherfucker ready to zap you and then fuck her slut until exhaustion
Lor'Themar Theron looks like that in game.
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>>383913850
It's what they showed at Blizzcon during wod reveal
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>>383912525
>Elf fuccboi acting all high and mighty like the asshole he is
Really showed me
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>>383914609
Say that to our face irl, not online, and see what happens.
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Niggah, I rolled with the Alliance when I was younger.
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>>383914409
He does not look like that
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>>383900263
shiggy diggy mon
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>>383915053
I don't think is looks like a fag.
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>>383915217
with the skinny figure and that retarded pose, he looks as retarded as any BE
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>>383915053
Warchief when?
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>>383915217
he doesnt even have a special model he looks gay like any other bloodelf
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>>383915363
When Blizz stops forgetting he even exists.
So never. ;-;
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>>383914049
i dont even like gorgrond and i'm upset about remaking the whole zone because fuck things
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>>383896983

>Dranei
>not D R A I N E D
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>>383914324
What is this, a wallpaper for ants?
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>people constantly argue over who is more evil and who is more justified

who gives a fuck, it's a war game. play the good side if you want, but calling the frsaken evil just sounds so pointless.
You think we don't fucking know that they are irredeemable? jesus fuck this thread is 90% manchilds stuck on Disney movies.

It's a game about a perpetual race war, and your a mercenary. Why would you bother stating the obvious about whether so and so is justified and whoever is the aggressor. water is wet and the horde are desperate because they are designed to be backed against the wall at all times against the Alliance.
also I don't like being in a state of smug comfort in a war game, I'm playing for the feeling of desperation and struggle, the only thing I get with alliance is the feeling of being a brit in India with superior technology and no resistance, while as a Horde player I'm in the middle of a battle for stalingrad or Normandy beach. just look at the alliance intro to pandaria, it was literally an execution of a hundred orcs without weapons by the Alliance, while Horde needed to go full Rambo and arm the Local insurgents with weapons to hold back ally progress.

So you can take your Justifications and self righteousness and shove it up your snatch.
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>Elf posting goes up
>Thread quality shoots down
Makes you think
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I love spellbreakers in WC3, it's shame they never became class in wow.
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>>383915643
>he doesnt even have a special mode
I need to agree on that. He urgently need a fucking model.
Overall he's the best horde leader by far.
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>>383915965
I just grabbed the first thing I saw on google.
Here's a larger version.
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>>383915965
>heels
>gauntless only cover the top of the hands
>exposed thighs
What a useless piece of armor.
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>>383916160
how is he the best? did he ever do anything?
also you cant make a gay elf leader of the horde
sylvanas is already weird enough
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>>383916043
This anon is in the right.

this thread is either Alliance or "Horde" (alliance)


>I'm playing for the feeling of desperation and struggle, the only thing I get with alliance is the feeling of being a brit in India with superior technology and no resistance, while as a Horde player I'm in the middle of a battle for stalingrad or Normandy beach. just look at the alliance intro to pandaria, it was literally an execution of a hundred orcs without weapons by the Alliance, while Horde needed to go full Rambo and arm the Local insurgents with weapons to hold back ally progress.

I never saw it this way and it makes me want to roll an orc.
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>>383916043
So then you won't mind if the next expansion the Alliance finally wipes out the Horde for being an eternal genocidal thorn in their foot?
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>>383916778
Everyone is genocidal. stop being so delusional. this isn't what Warcraft is about, being all Haughty and holier than though (unless your pally) it's about perpetual war and conflict with everyone having their own interests.

you're literally taking all the fun out of the game when you make everything so serious
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