>tfw the 90s aren't coming back >You no longer go

everyone seemed so happy and hopeful in the 90's

>>383856663
They didn't have the internet to constantly remind them how shit the world and people are

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I'm fine with it honestly. I find that is a self defeating mentality that prevents me from being open to new things. My friends grew up with a different set of games/interests so now I find whatever I missed the first time around. The world is a big place.

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>>383856374
>friend gifts me Gone Home as a joke
>play it, expecting cringy story
>the whole game is a virtual, nostalgic diorama
>cry

>>383857080
And it was basic af.

>>383856374
that's a strong box

>>383857021
I try to be objective but I just can't

Like even if I tell myself "Ariana Grande is the exact same garbage as Britney Spears repackaged for a new generation" I still know half a dozen Britney songs and find Ari to be truly unlistenable ear cancer and she's also way uglier than Britney was 20 years ago

>>383856374
>tfw half the guys you grew up with in the 90s didn't make it to 21

The 90s were shit. We were too angry and stupid. The new generations got it right.

>>383857080
28.8 kiloBITS per second

>>383857385
Remember being open to new things doesn't mean you will like it. Some people just have different (bad) taste and that is OK. Its more learning about yourself and stumbling onto things you never knew were awesome.

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>>383856374

>How do you deal with the fact that the 90s have passed and won't return.

By going into denial and playing the Crash Bandicoot trilogy and jerking it to images of Jenifer Aniston

>>383856374

I'm happier today. I don't require the feeling of freshness to enjoy something. Now, my own sense of nostalgia and appreciation for it is enough to satisfy me.

>>383856374
i hug my beanie babies and cry myself to sleep

>>383857631
Yeah, I intentionally tried to make an apples to apples comparison of something that was lowest common denominator and "bad" from both eras

There's a vidya equivalent too, we've already had the era of people being nostalgic for fucking Halo and just when you thought the world couldn't get any worse, now people are getting nostalgic for Modern Warfare

>>383856663

This was before 9/11 and "da war on terror"

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>tfw got our first computer with like 3gb hard drive
>mechwarrior doom and quake all day
>online multiplayer through dial up tying up phone lines
>dad builds a second computer and we play quake and starcraft head to head
>he even buys me a cheap ass over the counter level editor for quake called QOOLE
>make him shit to play
>remember watching him play through half life and being fucking blown away
>we used to be bros
>all those late nates with friends playing n64
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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>>383856663
>>383857982
This is objectively untrue

Look at the Seattle Sound, or endless cyberpunk material, or this quote from a famous movie of 1999:
>We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives.

>>383857891
>Wahh, why am I aging in a linear fashion and people who're slightly younger than me are having nostalgia for things I dont have nostalgia for!

>>383857891
Yeah I get it. What I grew up with wasn't that great either, but damn it that is what got me and my cousins together and bond. I have been revisiting series like Animorphs and Ronin Warriors (not games kids) to see what I found appealing about them and maybe create something in the same vein but better. I feel fucking old man.

>>383857891
>nostalgic for halo
T. never had friends to lan with on OGxbox. Those were fun fucking times. And before you shit on my I was a PC arena shooter fag, so fuck you

>>383858224

Boo-fucking-who. People shouldn't be lamenting the lack of global conflict to give a generation the illusion of purpose.

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When did people start pretending to like The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion?

I feel like the world's opinion of that shitheap changed overnight and left me behind

>>383858224
>FYI man, alright. You could sit at home, and do like absolutely nothing, and your name goes through like 17 computers a day. 1984? Yeah right, man. That's a typo. Orwell is here now. He's livin' large. We have no names, man. No names. We are nameless!

>>383857049
fuck you

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>>383857812
what?
that was the modem speed most people had in 1997. did your weird nerd family have isdn or something ?

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I just want to live in a world with Robocop.

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>>383856374
Be honest, what was the ration of good innovative games to shitty unstable and glitched games that were forgotten to time? What was the chance of you getting a game that was AVGN levels of crap when picking a random game off the store?
Don't you think the reason 90's games seemed better is because only the best was preserved while most of the shitty stuff was forgotten to time? This is the equivalent of "born in the wrong generation" kiddies on youtube music comments.

>>383856663
The economy hadn't fully crashed yet.

>>383859887
Yes, we need more robots destroying businessmen.

>>383858854
nostalgia is a hell of a drug

>>383858224
>We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives.

Is this nigga seriously complaining that he didn't get to experience a global economically and mentally damaging experience? Is he sad his dad didn't get to commit suicide after losing his business? Is he upset he doesn't get to be drafted into a war? What the fuck.

>>383860079
Fucking this. I remember getting a shitload of bad games in the 90s and early 00s from local stores.
Of course the only ones I still play are the good shit but there was an immense amount of garbage back then, just like what you see on steam. It just doesn't get (rightfully so) remembered by anyone.

>>383856374
90s are gay af ur dum and gay lol

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>>383860548
That's because you didn't choose wisely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49MH6AeFA2k

>>383856374
>>383857203
that's a fucking strong box

>>383856663
People were violent as fuck in the 90s. GTFO of here with your bullshit

>>383858503
fucking T H I S

>>383856374
what's the source of this pic anyway

>>383858503
>>383860348
the alternative is that humans now are basically cattle feeding on corporate excrement

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>Friends

>>383856663
There's many thing that can be said of 90s but happy and cheerful? Not really.
>>383856374
In the grand scale, what video games could learn from that era is focusing more on designs that are fun to play over how easy it is to market them or how easy they are to grasp. This also applies with innovation, as that ideology tries too much to just be new something, anything, over trying to be the best thing it possibly can.

>>383858186
>we used to be bros
What happened anon?

>>383861393
>tfw still pretty close to 90s azn bro friend from high school

>>383860079
Show me a present day game with TECHNOLOGY .

Older games have better TECHNOLOGY than present day games.

>>383861995
what

ITT: All the worst kinds of nostalgia.

Go play some GORN, you pathetic faggots. Gaming has never been better.

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>>383856374
I felt the same way for a long time OP, and to be fair I will admit that I think a lot of things about the 90s were better than today. With that being said, you can still do those same things. One of my favorite things to do is look up a random mall and just go there and walk around, and sometimes I'll find a retro game store and buy something. Many times the mall still has those old 90s aesthetics, and it still feels like it use to. Play some N64 or PS1, kick back some brews, listen to some Alice in Chains, do whatever you want. Nobody except you is preventing you from enjoying the same things you enjoyed back then.

>>383857049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0k2FlV00MQ

>>383860348
He's not complaining, he's comparing. 90s were all about the identities of people. Recent history had given very strong ones to older generations of the time.

>MUH 90'SSSSSSSSS XD YOU YOUNGINS ARE TOO YOUNG TO KNOW THIS IS OUR SECRET CLUB XDXD

>>383862652
Where do you live that there's enough malls to just randomly go to for the first time? My state only has 2, the one the younger people go to and the one with old people stores like Barnes & Nobles that have a fraction of the other malls traffic.

>>383863002
t doesn't remember 9/11

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>>383861272
I'm genuinely happy I don't need to die in some random ditch.
Fuck man, if you hate being cog in the machine, you can freely go and being a hobo or something. People drafted into war don't have a fucking chance.
>inb4 social pressure
Fucking world better than mowed by a machine gun

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We find innovative things often enough. /v/ just loves them until they get popular then they pretend they never liked them in the first place. /v/ is the biggest group of hipsters the world has ever known.

>>383863338
sauce?

>>383859887
to this date this shit still legitimately scares the shit outta me. This movie traumatized me as a kid.

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NEVER AGAIN

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>>383864114

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We continuing from last thread?

>>383856374
I watch old 90s commercials, especially Halloween ones during October. I can almost...capture that same sense of innocence I had as a kid.

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>>383864372
it's pretty fucked up thst we are nostalgic for commercials but yeah 90s and 80s commercial comps on youtube are pretty good

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Hey anon! Mom got me Pokemon Stadium! You got Pokemon Blue with you so we can fight our pokemon together? =p

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>tfw the 40's aren't coming back

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I only played Creep TV.

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>>383856374
The mind is able to forget harsh memories and bad experiences with time. All thats left is the positive ones.
This creates a skewed version when looking at the past, as though it appeared to be much better than it actually was. This happens to every culture and they always lament a past time that was 'better'.
Its what Trump appealed to on his campaign, and it was what ISIS appeal to with its caliphate.

>>383857891
If you didn't play halo and MW1 and 2 as a teen you missed out

Holy shit those were some fun games after getting out of school

>>383861705
He fucked anon's mom

>>383864817
GET THAT RAVIOLI OFF THE VCR

>>383858224
["BLACKHAO SAN" echoes in distance]

>>383856374

I deal pretty well. The 80s and 90s were pretty cringeworthy to be honest. 80s tried way too hard to be happy and bombastic, and the 90s was just the 80s coming down.

99% of /v/ was born in 2000.

>>383863921
Even Toxic Waste man?

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I just want to go back

> Friends

Dropped.

>>383856374

what dude has a fucking friends poster

what a fag

>>383867038

ur a fag

>>383866853
Me too.

>HEY NO SCREENLOOKING!
>ONLY I CAN PLAY AS ODDJOB YOU HAVE TO PICK SOMEONE ELSE!
>YOU CAN'T SHOOT ME IN THE BACK!
>WE'RE PLAYING NOTHING BUT BIG HEAD MODE, 1 HIT KILLS, AND MELEE ONLY!
>FUCK YOUR CHEAP MOVES WE'RE NOT PLAYING THIS ANYMORE!

On second thought...

>>383867038
>>383866936

>kek

>>383867493

Who are you quoting?

>>383866853
>>383867276
>None of the current gen games have 4-player splitscreen.
Why does does God hates us?

>>383856374
I remember going to office depot with my mom as a kid after I got my win 95 PC and looking at all the controllers and games on the shelves and getting dark forces my first pc game. It was an amazing feeling of awe. That happy little boy had no idea what was waiting for him down the road.

>>383860348
t. someone who doesn't get it

>>383867276
I always looked at the other players screens, try and stop me

>>383860736
taito legends 2 for days

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>>383866853
>I was Oddjob every time

>>383861995
New word filter or retard?

People will say the same shit about the 2000's and the 2010's eventually. You'll feel nostalgic over any era you grew up in.

>>383866853
Man, the other day I played Goldeneye with my friend from work. We're both in our 20s, and even though I don't play video games that much anymore, for a little while I felt like I was younger. Just for a moment.

It's good to relive it for a short time, but you have to accept that those times are over.

>>383869834
Nah, cultural evolution ended in the '90s. These days kid only care about the new version of Minecraft and the new version of Iphone. No one will miss older versions of Minecraft or slower versions of Iphone because they're just worse versions of what they have. No one will miss old Facebook because Facebook will never change.

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>The 80s and 90s were pretty cringeworthy to be honest.
what the fuck does this even mean

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>>383867493
>says kek
>doesn't know how to properly greentext
really makes me fink

>>383870371
Definitely not, especially not for vidya
Fucking WoW came out in 2004 dude

>>383863094
New Jersey. There are literally dozens of malls within a 20m radius of me. But regardless, this is just an example.

>>383856374
>>383856947
>South Park is still airing

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>>383867634
>tfw no more split screen fps games besides cod
>tfw even halo is getting rid of split screen
>tfw no good split screen fps on PC
Why are we in the worst timeline?

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>>383856374

It crushes my heart. I really hope I could go back in time for the good old days. This period sucks balls. You millennials suck balls. This gay earth sucks balls.

>>383870718
you're pretty much proving his point though
people still play that game and it's 13 years old with minimal changes
imagine if a game made in 1983 was still hugely popular in 1996

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memes mask my depression

My dad managed a Hollywood Video in the early 2000's and it was basically like being the son of a god.

>>383860079
There were games so janky, ugly, and broken that they made Andromeda look like a gleaming polished gem in comparison; but that's the price of innovation. It was such an exciting time for gaming with all sorts of crazy shit happening.

Things have become so homogeneous and dull. Consoles are just fancy media centers, PC gaming is plagued by unparalleled levels of shovelware and buggy rushjobs, handhelds have been replaced by smartphone games with no depth or skill.

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>>383860736
Cleopatra is CUTE!

>>383871373

Is this Brad Pitt after 199 pizzas?

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>>383869964
I played way to much gauntlet dl when I was a kid

(I don't think it's 90s)

>>383870971
>imagine if a game made in 1983 was still hugely popular in 1996
Games made in the mid 80s are still popular today. See: SMB, TLoZ, etc.

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>>383871373
Damn.

I feel like he does in the picture at the moment. Proud of his gaymen collection, setup and decorations. Then BAM, 18 fucking hard years pass by. I wonder if he still likes video games. I hope i still do.

>>383862858
but that's bullshit to hinge your identity on some stupid war, etc.

>>383871751

In 18 years we'll probably have some dope ass VR

>capitalism ruins everything
yes i know

>>383871848
Yes because the games industry just thrives under communism.

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>>383871598
The PS2 was 2000, so no.
Now Gauntlet Legend on the N64... that was a game I played a lot with my sisters. We all had our own memory packs, but only 1 rumble pack and fought for it a lot.

>>383871767
It's what people did anyways and later generations took example from.

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>>383871767
The greatest generation would like to have a word with you.

>>383863169
Found the manlet. Guess why /v/ got a rep of being basement dwellers

>>383872053
>extermination of white men
>greatest generation

>>383872053
more like the dead generation

>>383872053
The generation that raised the baby boomers was the greatest generation? I'm not convinced.

>>383871953

>Thinking communism is the only alternative

Without capitalism developers would be able to pursue a lot more of their passion projects. We'd probably see a lot more creative shit not streamlined by corporations to appeal to casuals

>>383872053
>Greatest
Where's my Ultra Zionist Bro Alliance at?

Sure can't live without the internet anymore, but damn was the world more interesting without it. You constantly got surprised.

>see a magazine and beg mom to buy it
>it has games and consoles in it you never heard of before

>get a really thin clamshell phone
>business man extraordinaire

>the few games you get each year are special
>you actually play them

>nobody gives you any looks for owning a gameboy
>gaming in the backyard with birds n shit

>>383871953
>criticize capitalism
>automatically advocating for communism

>>383872201
what's the third alternative then? either you make what people actually demand or you have a stagnant economy that breaks down and nothing gets made

>>383871974
I played gauntlet legends at my local arcade a lot gotta say probably one of the better gauntlet games

>>383863169
Literally change corporation to king/emperor/ceasar/whatever leader and it's literally been the same thing since the begining of history

>>383872310
Fascism was originally promoted as a third path for those who didn't want Capitalism or Communism.

>>383872201
They're free to pursue their passion projects now. If you don't have a free market (capitalism) you're working for the state and the state isn't going to tell you to spend your time making your fucking passion project video game.

>>383872310

Post-capitalism socialism

>everything was better when I was 12

>>383856374
im actually ok with that,it was shit life for in that time period

>>383856374
>Austin Powers 2 poster
This picture was either literally at the very end of the 90s, or in the early 00s

>>383871848
>implying communists can process entertainment in a healthy way
You either spend all your time starving, wishing you had the energy to spend on games, or you spend all your time on entertainment on something like WoW (produced by capitalism btw) to the point that you neglect your own life and the overbearing government is forced to limit entertainment.
TL;DR fuck you, you socially degrading imbecile

>>383872310
capatlism is just a giant train that can't stop or it will fail
that is why it will fail, it only continues because standing still means death

hence why we bailed out the banks, real economists would have let the banks fail and let the economy naturally evolve from that.

its also why technology as a whole hasnt improved much, will not, as long as they can keep selling you the outdated shit, why gaming has been stagnant in terms of technological advances, why we are trying to sell completely inferior shit VR rather than actually attempting VR, they are only producing what is marketable , rather than attempting the possible

>>383872441
facism doesn't have anything to do with economics moron

>>383872492
so what does that entail? there's already games out there made with government art grants, and as you'd expect, they're fucking horrible made by people who dont even play video games

>>383856663
Depends on how old you were in the 90's. People who were kids had nostalgia for it since it had a lot of good games, toys, pop culture, etc. As a decade for those fully aware though, it was more like purgatory. It's arguably the most peaceful, prosperous, and stable decade in modern recollection, but that really just turns everything into a boring mess. It was reflected a lot in pop culture in the time if you go back and look at it again.

It's just one big decade long reminder that life is boring without conflict.

>>383872467

Just because a society doesn't utilise capitalism doesn't mean it's some Nazi state there's still democracy retard.

>>383864310
never realized how fat her face was

>>383870424

Well phoneposter, it means music, pop culture, fashion, and youths if the time we're cringe inducing. Shit like glam rock transitioning to dopey grunge kids.

>>383872201
>>383872254
>being actually mentally retarded

>>383872705
>actually attempting VR
we can't make neural interfaces, and that's not because captialism is holding us back

>>383864817
where is
>onua ?

>>383872705
How is half your argument against capitalism about video games?

>nostalgiafags

The world was always terrible.

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>>383864817

Give me back my discman you little shit.

>>383872805
neural interface, nigger, we dont even have competent control systems

>>383872595
this. fucking smashmouth and third eye blind everywhere you went.
I'm not going back.

>>383872738
Ok. How does your non-capitalist/non-communist economy work? Obviously there are no private companies driving it because that would be capitalism.

>>383864817
>she is now 30

>>383864817
are these staged? this seems a bit much.

>>383873003

You forgot Backstreet Boys and Nsync.

>>383872878
>how is forced technological stagnation about video games
well timmy, your fucking shit box thats barely a PC from 10 years ago, is why our games look and play like ass, why we strive for "cinematic 30 fps" and can't even get functioning game systems beyond fucking walking sims and target rendered hot box cutscene movie games

enjoy your fucking xbone x for the next 4 years

>>383873006
many countries adopt different economy models, being passive aggressive little cuck about your ignorant ass isn't a counter argument, stop listening to sociopaths all day and inform your god damn self, retarded cuck

1. Godwin’s Law
The most famous of all the internet laws, formed by Mike Godwin in 1990. As originally stated, it said: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." It has now been expanded to include all web discussions.

>>383873006
He expects everyone to kneel blindly to state authority on a whim and doesn't have any answers, just like every other political idealist through history.
Thankfully, this anonymous internet philosopher will never be given a podium.

All right /v/, if you could go back in time, would you do it all again?

>>383873206
how about you name one instead of calling people a cuck
I'm sure whatever this magical country is it must have the best video games on the planet seeing there's no horrible free markets to hold them back

>>383873260


Why bother?

>>383873260
i want to live my childhood in the '80 and my 30 in the 2000

>>383873206
Name One you fucking bitch.
I don't even need an explanation.
Just one fucking country not on the capitalism-communism spectrum.

>>383873206
>passive aggressive
I'm not being passive. I'm calling out your bullshit. Your fantasy economy that is not capitalist and pays you to sit on your ass and make shitty video games doesn't exist.

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>ywn play CS 1.6 with your best friends after class on the local cybercafé again

Most people are not nostalgic because they simply replaced those habbits for new ones and have a pretty good life.

I, on the other hand, can't let go of the past and find new things or a higher meaning in life. I don't even enjoy playing csgo online with friends anymore. I basically don't leave the house in 8 years now...

>>383856823
Internet wasn't commonplace, but it was still available.

Even if you didn't have that, the news and shit going on in your neighborhood was plenty cause for worry.

any year prior to 9/11 was literally magical, especially mid 80s to '99.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaA

>>383856663
Sounds like you're confusing your memories of pre-school with the whole decade.

>>383873430
what kind of retard listens to media fearmongering

>>383873585
Nigga the 90s was characterized by heroin addicts and niggers rioting in LA

>>383873567
>americucks lives are defined by one terrorist attack

>>383873006

It's about decentralizing economic powers away from large corporations and banks. Strengthening natural systems rather than sustaining them, investing in long-term non-market economies where ownership and economic governance is democratised.

>>383873243

>Being this ignorant

Don't make blanket statements if you aren't well-versed in the subject matter

>>383873675
Was meant for >>383856663
Not
>>383873585

>>383856374
In the 90's, my parents were still together, Nirvana was still a band, and bank robbers still used machine guns. It'll never be the same again. At least I still have my precious vidya

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>>383873715
>americucks lives are defined by one terrorist attack
Yeah, basically. Everyone lost their shit and we never got it back. We've become hyper-sensitive to "feelings" and lost our way.

>>383873715
>implying events aren't paradigm shifts that are more about the surrounding changes rather than the event itself
>OH MAN EUROKEKS ARE DEFINED BY FRANZ FERDINAND GETTING SHOT, WHAT FUCKING MORONS

Literally your dumb ass right now.

>>383872226
>but damn was the world more interesting without it.

Way more. Always experiencing new things, visiting different places felt mysterious and enticed curiosity.

>>383873613
You can't really avoid the news, anon.

Current events in regards to the local news or nationwide shit like Oklahoma bombings are always teased on network television when you're watching Simpsons and shit.

Literally the only way you could not be aware of the news is if you were only allowed to watch PBS or some literally who network that didn't air any news at the time.

>>383856374
It really hurts. They are tearing down the mall I used to hang out in as a young man in the early 90s. Whatever happened to malls? They were awesome. Hang out in the arcade all day playing street fighter then get pizza in the food court or get into MTG tournaments at the card shop. Browse around Babbages or KB toys. Now it's all strip malls and that open air mall bullshit that never has any parking. Being a kid these days must be pretty horrible.

>>383873820
>dad buys you a dreamcast instead of a playstation 2

Dad...

>>383873715
It pretty much is and its never recovered from it. Now were even more paranoid of the government now than in the 90s.

>>383873825
yeah two wars that killed millions of people from nearly everywhere on the planet was a bit more important than two buildings falling down

>>383873094
Looks a lot like the room of the friend (girl) I had back then. She even had a mac though it was old and second hand.

>>383873736
You just described socialism.

>>383862291
>>383869657
Fucking newfags.

>>383873928
Yeah they were awesome but think about it. When's the last time you or anyone you know spent a day at the mall?

>>383873934
The Dreamcast came out a year before the PS2 (9/9/99 release date was fucking great), and the buzz around it was surreal. I personally was a Sega kid, so I was hyped for it.

>>383874021

Which is what I said in the first place but you were begging for a definition

>>383857385
I dont even know who that is

>>383874061
Malls are economic sinkholes now but going to one just reminds me of all the carefree times I'll never experience again.

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>>383871848
>tfw no glorious soviet childhood

>>383873934
clearly they're into nfl 2k

>>383873928
>Whatever happened to malls?
The internet came and just decimated them, the fuck am I gonna go to the mall for and waste gas when I can have my shit delivered from Amazon to my door.

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The internet was a mistake
Prove me im wrong

>>383864817
heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxnIQ-YAYI

>>383874289
imagine the video games we could have had

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Would you?

>>383873094
That's the Awkward Zombie author, dumbass.

Furthermore, why is it that people like to call out extraordinary things that happen in real life as fake? Like thinking Chris-chan was all an act. Stop that. Be more open minded.

>>383874156
Socialism is just communism disguised as capitalism.
The system cannot be enforced without communist ideals and cannot survive without capitalist tactics. Socialism removes power from the people and gives it directly to the state.
Give me one reason I should work for rations and limited opportunities and I will be all for it.
As it stands, socialism only punishes the intelligent, hard-working, and perservertant all the while rewarding only those in positions of government authority.

>>383874453
Without hesitation.

>>383873928
They closed down mine. Not good feel. All that's left is the Barnes and Noble and the entrance to the mall at the back is just a wall now.
I sometimes go touch it, hoping I might fall through. Back to easier times.

>>383874398
There's nothing inherently wrong with the internet.
The problem is smartphones granting easy access to commoners who really don't deserve it.

>>383874398
The internet is literally only good for porn. And if you were a yellow fever gag like me it was a godsend.

>>383874453

worse episode

>character confronts protagonist about the merits, consequences and meaning of an eternal life into a simulated world
>makes good arguments
>lol fuck that lets be happy lesbians forever nothing wrong with that xD

>>383874379
I hate the internet

>>383856823
we did have the internet in the 90s. But it was used almost exclusively by middle/upper class white/asian males. No girls, no mutants, no kangs.

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>>383873972
That's not the point you cuck. The point is that events are paradigm shifts for entire eras around them. Sometimes they're innocuous like one guy getting shot or someone winning a German election, other times it's some iconic buildings falling to a terrorist attack after a decade+ of peace. It's not always so much the event as how things are shaped around it.

>>383872310
People choosing to produce without depending on capital from parties who are only interested in seeing their capital grow. Doesn't require a revolution or anything, it just requires people to realize that profit and growth are imperfect measures of the quality of your product. They could still operate in the free market, but deliberately avoid influence from shareholders who would force these metrics of success upon them.

The problem isn't really capitalism itself, it's how much people trust in it. It's a system that allows the world to go around without depending on anyone to be virtuous, which is fucking miracle if you think about it. But that doesn't mean we should abandon virtue and let the invisible hand clean up after us.

>>383873715
American here and I agree.

One of the first things I remember after 9/11 was my art teacher flipping out about how we shouldn't act like we're the worse off country in the world from 9/11. He too grew up in the country, I thought him a prick and an ass for it but reading up about world events after graduating, the guy was right. 9/11 was still a tragedy, y'know but Europe deals with terrorist bullshit about thrice a year or more. Worse even is that us Yanks are more afraid of another 9/11 happening but think we can move on from every mass shooting that goes on in the country like it's just another political hotbed.

You and I live in an insane world, anon. The best we can hope for is to die with the least amount of damage from it.

>>383874597

Except it isn't because it's still a democracy. Where are you getting this from wtf are you talking about rations and limited opportunities and shit are you really this dumb? You're just projecting some communist russia type ideology bull-shit onto socialism. Go read up on what socialism actually entails.

>>383874897
9/11 is only a paradigm shift for the usa, yet you have the arrogance to assume it matters to the enitre world

>>383872760
I'll take the cringe of the 80s and 90s over the cancer and aids that were the 00s and 10s.

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>>383864817

>2001
>happy and optimistic little girl

>2017
>wants to be a boy

>>383875016
Do you live in Europe? Those brown people raping and killing your people didn't just show up out of nowhere.

>>383874958
Venezuela called and wants it's food supply back

>>383856663
90s had the most depressive and edgy music.

>>383874765
Black male.
First home internet access in '97 via AOL.
First internet usage in '96 via library field trip in Middle School.

Read GamePro and GamePlayers magazines with talk about Compuserve based e-mail addresses in the reader mail section and referrals to websites based on gaming magazines. Remember seeing beta shots of Zelda 64, including plans to have Link shoot beams that was cut out (think it mentioned something about drawing from his magic meter) -- this was on Nintendo's website.

>>383875152
Which was weird because everyone had money to burn, so I never got why Nirvana was so popular.

>>383875152
This. I hated all that down-tuned grungy shit.

>>383874505
>check how she looks now
>looks like a fucking dude

why.

>>383874765
It was extremely limited, slow and with not much content. It had a magical allure to it, it was a really weird place with many weird websites especially the conspiracy websites. Modern internet consists of gossip, social media and Facebook.

>>383875102
arabs would be waging war on each other and thus creating refugees with or without US interference

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>>383875152
Remember 90s "edge." I really miss that that era where being edgy was actually a good thing to be. We were pushing buttons and boundaries all the time.

Now we get "blunt-edge" where it's more about seeming edgy, but being diluted and tame as fuck.

>>383866457
It belongs to the ants, now.

>>383875132

>Cherry-picking a corrupt government under the guise of socialism

>>383875247
being rich doesn't make you happy

80s was way better, youngfag

>>383873928
The 90's was the last Era of social commercial communities everyone used to go out to find entertainment malls, pools, parks, cinemas, video stores now everything is just commercially personalised you don't need to leave the house anymore to be entertained just watch whatever want and order convenient takeaway that gets delivered to your door.

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>>383875314
Refugees have existed in the region due to countless conflict well before this current 'refugee crisis'. This is the tail end of the chain of events from the paradigm shift of 9/11. This shit didn't just happen overnight and for no reason. Moreover, they are in large not even refugees.

>>383875343
The best thing about 90s edge was all the industrial metal.

>>383875357
>pretending that socialism has ever been an ideal form of government not usurped by elite to control even more of the people
>pretending socialism will ever not be a pyramid scheme to concentrate total power onto a select few government officials

>>383875357
>STILL hasn't given an example of a successful country proven to run exclusively on socialism

>>383875493

How is that an argument? Based on what factors exactly? You're just making blank statements as if they are a proper rebuttal. I could say the same shit about capitalism, communism or any other ideology. Stop being such a faggot.

>>383875357
Not that guy, but literally every socialist based government has collapsed within a 70-100 years. You can't run with a system that denies human nature. You will always run out of other people's money and revolution will always be the only way out.

>Born in 1992
>Don't remember the 90's at all
>My memories of the 2000's are just a few vague, blurry fragments
>Even my memories of this decade aren't great

Is it normal to have a memory that's as fucked as this? I honestly worry that there might be something wrong with my brain.

>>383875437
This has been depressing me lately. The last arcade and video store in our city finally closed. All those gathering places are gone, even the bookstores people would hang out at.

>>383875625
Sounds like someone got BTFO and can't retort without trying to disarm an argument.

>>383857385
OOPS I DID IT AGAIN

>>383861393
that dogs probably dead by now.

>>383875386
I'd argue being rich makes you more prone to stress since part of it is being able to maintain finances and being seen as an easy target.

>>383875651
>Don't remember anything up to age 8
How is this possible? I have loads of memories starting from about 4 or 5 and some going back to 2.

>>383875487
and what paradigm shift is that? that all arabs hate white people now and want to infiltrate and destroy their civilization from the inside?

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were they supposed to be mints? my young self always ate the whole tin can.

>>383875619

That's because there has never been a nation which has tried to establish socialism which hasn't been interfered with and undermined by the west in a massive way

>>383875651
I'm from 1985 and i remember a good portion of my childhood. Many many good memories.

>>383875748

Wtf are you even talking about? How was I BTFO'd?

>>383862595
>GORN
I plan on getting VR, anon.
Just not now.

>>383875809
It amazes me that Altoids have been around since 1780.

>>383856663
If you were a kid, the 90's were fucking awesome!

But the 90's had its problems though:
-waco
-ruby ridge
-columbine
-oklahoma bombing
-LA riots
-OJ getting away with murder
-gang violence at an all time high (crips vs bloods & hells angels vs mongols in full swing)

And for over seas:
-the Serbian vs Bosnian war/genocide
-fallun gong holocaust in China
-blood diamond wars in sierra leon

>>383875651
That sounds genuinely sad. Like a life lost.
It reminds me of Clive Wearing who lost his long term memory because of a brain disease and now live his life a minute at time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipD_G7U2FcM

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>>383875929
>columbine
90s "edge" comes to a head.

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>>383875929
>-gang violence at an all time high (crips vs bloods & hells angels vs mongols in full swing)

Not just that, but Latin gangs in East and West were a middling problem. I don't like Trump, but I'm pretty sure his immigration policies were specifically because of that.

>>383875838
Here comes the classic "It hasn't been properly done!!" Argument.
You're saying that in 6000 years of civilization, socialism hasn't been accomplished because of (insert ideology to blame here).
You're right, it hasn't worked, and never ever fucking will.
Socialism cannot work with the modern human condition, it would take a degree of enlightenment far beyond our scope today.
Not saying it isn't a great idea, but it unfortunately is just that, a utopian idea with no grounding in reality because the law of supply and demand and the free market is too powerful.
The West is trying very, very hard to push socialism right now, but it is backfiring because the shit simply does not work.

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>>383875651
Born in 86, so the 90s stick out in my mind due to how much my life repeatedly changed year after year.
My favorite memory of the 90s has to be both The Sega Channel and the WWF Attitude Era.

>>383875781
I don't know. Everything in my memory is just gone. My own memory reminds me of a corrupted hard drive where almost all of the files are fucked.

>>383875929
Columbine I think is where it all started to go downhill, the countries paranoia started right there and just ramped up after 9/11 and never left.

>>383876249
Nigga you may be a clone

>>383875653
yeah it has a lot to do with the whole entertainment industry changing and social media giving us the illusion of convenient controlled social interaction. Like you I too thin k its sad were losing all these great social commercial gathering places and I don't think it was for the better either all we rally have left are cafes and tabletop gaming stores which aren't really great social gathering places as one is for uptight hipsters and mums and the other is just usually a social black hole which usually sucks the fun out of everything.

>>383876184
One of the things I do remember is that I didn't even have video games until around 2000, then I got a PS1.

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>>383856374
That's okay. I've lost interest in new games since right before the launch of the PS3. The "newest" game I've ever played was GTA 5 and that was only for two hours over a relative's house. Other than that, I played Red Dead Redemption during the week after its launch, and that was just during a five-day rental. My point is, who cares if all that hard-copy stuff of the 90s aren't coming back when videogames in essence have changed (gotten dumber and normier) since, oh yes, the 90s?

>>383876249
Could be ptsd, abuse, drugs (second hand) or a genuine brain condition.

>>383875651
Did you go through a lot of traumatic experiences?
At young ages the brain tends to delete fucking everything as a coping mechanism.

>>383872718
It's a natural result of the automation trend, once the number of available jobs falls below a certain threshold the capitalist governments are going to.have to tax the robots and implement a UBI scheme just to keep the money flowing and stop the economy collapsing altogether.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blppKS-nz9g#t=3.398303

>>383856374
>You no longer go into a game store and find something brand new and innovative.
I only play on PC and I hate this, pretty much all the games I have played or want to play only have digital copies which I refuse to pay for, so i just pirate them even though I would be more than happy to pay for a physical copy with the entire game on the discs.

>>383876620
>>383876719

I was bullied quite a bit when I was younger. Even though I don't remember this first-hand, my Mum says that at one point, I was beaten up so badly that she was forced to put me in another school. Another thing is that I'm diagnosed with Asperger's, and I heard that this can have a bad effect on memory.

>>383877000
Well there you go. I've experienced some specifically blocked somewhat traumatic memories that I only vaguely recalled after being reminded about them years later.

>>383876742
It's very interesting seeing a society commit suicide via automation.
In the blind pursuit of efficiency, people forgot why the system as a whole exists in the first place.

>>383873934
>PS2 had no good launch games
>for the first year PS2 had no good games
>first few shipments of PS2 had the faulty lasers that would cause disc read error

Nope Dreamcast was a good choice for the time being.

>>383877175
You think there's a chance it'll go back to the way it was?
This shit can't possibly last forever.

>>383877525
It will all collapse and then the preppers will all be mobbed and massacred for their hoarded food and supplies.

>>383877525
In ten lifetimes maybe. We will pursue this path until it either destroys all of humanity or just enough that luddites rise up to smash all the technology.

>>383875809
you're supposed to eat the contents, not the can itself, you freak

>>383877797
This casual doesn't eat the can. Well when the mutant spiders rise up you can't have any of mine.

>>383856374
>be this mid 2000s
> quit gaming.
>come back early 2010s
>excited as a new born babby untainted by jaded expectations & other shit /v/ spews out

give yourself a few years, anon. if you don't come back, good for you. if you do, good luck.

I look back with nostalgia at a lot of things, but I was an 89 babby, so most of the 90s was just my youth. I wish I could have been in my twenties back then though. The internet being around, but not full of normies, actual incentive to go outside to fulfill your hobbies, etc.

I love technology, but I hate how intertwined it is with our lives.

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>>383877175
Humanity's days are numbered.

>>383878047
Yeah I grew up, got a job, got into cars, stopped gaming for years, hit the recession, couldn't afford cars and got back into gaming. It was fun catching up on what I'd missed and my backlog is still full.

>>383878153
>actual incentive to go outside to fulfill your hobbies, etc.
So how has that changed?

>>383856374
I don't want to feel these feels man.

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>>383863921
Why Robocop 3 turn into family movie ?

>>383856374
>Friends
>Buffy
>Southpark
>PSX

Get a load of this normie.

>>383877525
It'll get better, you won't have work unless you want to and if you do decide to work you'll have access to all the education you need to land your dream job. The future is bright anon, even the rich and powerful can't fight the free market forever.

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>>383859887
>There are people deathly afraid of robots because of this movie

>>383878239
It's easier to find communities online that share your interests than seek them out IRL. It's larger than that though. Fulfill could mean, depending on the hobby, picking up supplies, but niche shops aren't as prominent anymore due to the internet and lower prices.

I'm just saying, it's easier to be a reclusive NEET now, full stop. But before we'd have had to actually etch out communities sharing our interests at speciality stores, events, etc if we sought to socialize with the like minded.

>>383878610
EventBrite and other such websites or services exist. You'll know where people who may have common ground are. Usually for free.

>>383878602
Love that video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE

>>383871598
my nigga

>>383873003
Semi-Charmed Life is a great fucking song tho

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>try acid for the first time, three tabs
>the 90s suddenly makes sense

I have no idea why, but it made me feel heavy pangs of nostalgia, and somehow "get it," but probably not really. My mind for some reason went to those shoes for girls that changed colors in the sun, butthole surfers, the Chicago Bulls and Dallas Cowboys, Pizzahut when it was still a restaurant, and George Meyer and other writers of the Simpsons.

>>383879227
They were a golden era for video games, anime, and American culture. We can never go back. We can only remember now.

>>383877691
The technology shouldn't be smashed. What is needed is the wisdom to show restraint in its usage, so that it doesn't infringe on our roles as people.
Of course, it's too much to ask of the average mouth breather to see the bigger picture and understand the nasty consequences of their instant gratification. Even we're guilty of it. We'd probably need to genetically engineer a whole new breed of human.

>>383856374

I wasn't into games in the 90s - waste of time.

I studied hard, learned Japanese and now I live in Tokyo doing a tech research job. I drive a new Nissan Skyline and I am happily married to a local woman. Not bad for 26 years old.

>>383879364
I think a lot has to do with us getting older, too. For the first time in my life I'm starting to miss my youth which I didn't think I ever would, but here I am yearning it for now.

What the "LE 90S KIDZ XD" ironic shitposters don't understand is that while nostalgia may be a perfectly normal generational thing, it doesn't change how surreal the feeling is to evolve into adulthood and wish for simpler times.

>>383879586
Sounds like something out of Dune.

>>383860348
it's mocking his generation you dense shit hybrid

>>383875929
>columbine
I remember when that happened how for the next several years everyone thought I was going to do the same thing. Didn't even own a gun, those assholes.

>>383875929
>>383880398
Wasn't one of the first school shootings recorded in history an angry father whose son died because of a bully and that bully was the teacher?

>>383880512
Society and the public give zero shits about technically first. Columbine was the beginning you autist.

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>>383867634
>>383870939

As the Internet grew more reliable and more powerful, people started taking advantage of online multiplayer a lot more. This was mostly on PC up until just under ten years ago. Xbox Live was basically building the coffin for splitscreen. You could play multiplayer games anytime, and not just when your bros were free.

Not saying splitscreen is dead, but it's on an iron lung.

i had that casper sticker
shit was glowing in the dark

>>383880646
If it werent for Nintendo local multiplayer would probably completely dead

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Oh ya, when I didn't have to fap 15 times a day just to feel human

I want to go back...

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>>383864817
>bionicle came out in 2001 when i was 12
jesus christ

>>383872760
Fuck you i liked 80s women fashion.

>>383878174
>math research
"no"

>>383858854
It's because something shittier and even more bland comes out that it makes the old shitty and bland game look like a masterpiece.

>>383866853
>>383867634

Nintendo Switch bros. No, you can't get that exact childhood feeling back, but drunk Mario Kart split screen is pretty damned close, even better in some ways.

>>383866853
Sometimes I think dying IS the reset button.

>>383885173

It's pretty much still around.

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>>383858186
I wish my dad did this kind of stuff with me back then...

>>383874407
She looks way cuter in real life than how she draws herself to look.

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The 90's were great but the 80's were far superior.

>>383888965
That just means she has a sense of humility.

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>>383856374
Fuck off grandpa, this is a Gen Z board.

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>>383863921
The british cut removed the shots of the guy ripping out the circuit and Kinney being blasted on the model, therefore massively downplaying the humourous context and making even more disturbing. Couldn't get those images out of my head for months.

>>383876184

Is that thing on the left supposed to go in your butt?

>>383857465
Says a 15 year old

>>383874398
The internet is just another tool.
Most people don't know how to fucking use it (and their brain too) and the people who know that make shiton of money on those retards.
So yeah, it was a mistake to give it to the masses.
(It's a great tool overall, just don't give it to everyone)

>>383860079
it's okay underage, there's no way you could understand what OP's talking about

Who cares now? We're adults now. It's 2017. Letting it fucking go is how you deal. Stop thinking about the "good old" times and enjoy nice times now and stop being a cynical misanthropic dickface.

The worst things about the 90s are the fucking nostalgia fags that think it was the greatest decade known to mankind in the history of ever.
Fuck off.

>>383875651
you and me anon, I can barely remember the past few years

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxy-qjy_cGM

The 1990s change was one that killed off the stagnation of the 1980s. Gen xers were pissed that their parents rebellion failed and they felt more trapped. The music of now will be stagnated as well. The era talked about taboo subjects all in front of your face. The internet expanded this so its not taboo anymore. Anti heroes galore. The unloved the hurt the oddballs the truthful all got famous during this era.

The 90s artists had true freedom in music that corporations made money off of.

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90's had the best mommies

>>383856947
I had that Mr Bean video.

Back in the days we were alot happier about video games because

There was no place to shitpost and games were harder to get, So we love whatever our parent bought us

But to be honest gaming community can still be very fun if you don't come here

>>383890220
Nah its just this decade doesn't kick as much ass as the 90s.

It felt good to say fuck you to a dick boss tell the world its unsustainable and if you don't change we will destroy it.

Now Isis is the destroyer and everyone needs a safe space

>>383856374
90's sucked imagine if you went back.

>No pornhub free porn
>no Downloading and torrents that are fast today
>emulators and ROMs
>Phones can actually play games that have been on handhelds.

There is so much we have today that we did not have before. You just fear your life fading awayv and dying.

>>383890392
Titties

>>383890506
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YY9IpjVQe3g

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>tfw gamedev with programming environment set up like early 90s in the pioneering age of vidya

>>383879691
>Things that never happened.

>>383890748
Nah your not shit.
Unless you listen to this

https://youtu.be/RDHA3JiXUuU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5COHP3KZuq4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0aY87kq24EI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwK2FIEijTw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqqLXEssnzc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1qnxnu4aI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SC-3_b3FfeA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gn1xiSofSZY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWeehnYPP18
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8Qqfu1pwQ

There is hundreds of these bands

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the 00s were better

best combination of technology and non-mainstreamness for gaming

Being a kid in the 90s was fucking sweet, but we are paying for it now. My god, are we ever paying for it now.

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>>383872745
>talking shit about Lucy Lawless
Do not talk shit about Lucy Lawless.

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>>383890297
>stop pining for a nicer, friendlier, more fun era you stupid fucking cancerous asshole jesus just fucking die already god

>>383891665
>look like you're 40 in your 20s
>look like you're in your 30s in your 50s
what an enigma

>>383891507
If anything the 00s were more mainstream because of the internet.

I'd say the 00s were the king of hyping up games old devs were getting lazy
And every game let you down.

The 90s to me ended in 2005 when emos took over the kids who fake emotion for attention and just to get sales.
This is real unhindered unengineered emotion
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZodBV39F4

>>383856374
>How do you deal with the fact that the 90s have passed and won't return
I'm glad the 90s are over.
No turbonerdy homophobic culture, no shitty edgy-as-fuck attitude.

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>>383891983
choke on a dildo dude