Castlevania thread episode 88:

Attempting to recapture Symphony of the Night on a limited handheld with no backlight.

the music

>>383836102
Literally nothing.

perfect ludovania

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Furniture collection was nice.

That was about the one good thing it had.

>>383836102
Insanely retarded (if not non-existent) boss AI. Legion sits there and does nothing as you maul him with a whip.

>>383837539
Just like the one in the bible.

>>383837539
this

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Just beat Symphony of the Night. 11/10 game. Where do I go from here? More importantly, which game in the series has a soundtrack on par with SotN?

>>383837964
You've reached the highest peak in gaming. You might as well find a new hobby because it's downhill from here.

>>383837964
circle of the moon, then aria of sorrow, then dawn of sorrow, then the other 2 ds games in any order

>>383837964
Circle of the Moon. Best castlevania imo.

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>>383837964

Aria of Sorrow is the most similar, both in quality and the game itself.

>>383836102
Its difficultly only comes from navigating the castle itself.

>>383837964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAT50diA4fo

OoE has the best soundtrack in the series, hands down. But you really want to go to CotM.

>>383836102
>Extremely lame magic (Lament of Innocence had a similar system but it was much more unique)
>Inconsistent, sometimes disgusting, music quality of a soundtrack that would otherwise make me orgasm
>Aqueduct of Dragons should've been the boss theme
>Story is the equivalent of a generic shonen anime
>Maxim is jelly he isn't an anime protagonist so he became an anime antagonist
>Short asf game
>Easy asf game
>Second castle is just mostly recolors
>Looks fantastic but they were autistic and wanted it to sound like an orchestrated CD soundtrack on a shit soundboard
>But it's fun asf to speedrun both as Juste and Maxim because of such glitches like candle launching
>But then glitches were removed in the double pack release

>>383836102
Kicking out everyone responsible CoTM to bring in the guy who helped direct SotN.

HoD is best thought of as a warm-up experiment for the vastly superior Aria of Sorrow.

I am playing it right now.

The bosses are really fucking easy desu.

>>383838892
Perhaps you're just good at the game.

>>383837964
Circle of the Moon and Harmony of Dissonance are both shit, skip to Aria of Sorrow and then all 3 of the DS games.

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>>383837406
Also how to get that look in retroarch? I'm using gbam core

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>>383838117

>>383839206
>I'm using gbam core

Use mGBA. Use the gba-color.gp and lcd-grid-v2 shaders.

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>>383839657
that's what I mean, mGBA. Worded it differently. Retroarch doesn't let you change the gamma and such like mGBA does standalone?

>>383839901

Not sure, I've never messed with it.

I like it.
I want to do a second run now.

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JOHNATHAN!

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>>383840002
Yeah, I just go into regular mGBA without retroarch, go into the Audio/Video tap -> shader options and set the following.
Gamma: 1.333
Desaturation: 0.125, 0.150, 0.150

>>383836102
Dash that doesn't give you momentum when you jump.

>>383836102
I thought it was average. Nothing really special.

>>383837964
Play the Saturn version.

>>383840616
how do you know he didn't play the saturn version?

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Just finished Curse of Darkness.
What should i play next?

I don't know but playing this after Circle of the moon speed made me dizzy

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>>383841440
lament of innocence

>>383841440
If you want another 3d castlevania experience, play legacy of darkness or lord of shadows 1

>>383837964
Sotn sucked dicks. On my first playthrough I killed the succubus boss before she even got to attack. The difficulty scaling is so, so poor. Made it hard to enjoy.

Circle of the moon and aria are the best

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>>383839901
>Running a GBA game at 3840x2560

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>>383841616
>lord of shadows 1
well it's not like he asked for a good recommendation or anything
>>383841625
no anon, you are the sucks dicks

>pic related both posts absolutely nauseating

>>383841616
No one should ever play Lords of Shadow.

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>>383837964
Play portrait of ruin, the objective best handheld castlevania game

>>383836102
I'm currently through my 4th or 5th playthrough (I replay all the cv games every few years) and I just now found out that you can teleport between the castle switching rooms by pressing down.
Now I like the game a bit more

>>383841718
What is the charge? EATING A MEAL? A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?

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what went right
>death isn't a fucking turtle
>certain items change the color of your aftershade when dashing
>whip feels tight
>spellbook system is kinda cool
>interior room decoration
>fighting your best friend is fantastic
>shit was pretty much a PS1 game on the GBA, pulling off some graphically intensive stuff here and there

what went SAD!
>death is a fucking earworm
>dracula is a bunch of gibs
>lots of fucking color aberration caves and trippy backgrounds
>music sounds like ass
>spellbook system is very limited
>juste's gf is boring
>fairly boring

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>>383841969
Wrong.

>>383841969
close, but that's no order of ecclesia

>>383841969
>>383842116
>>383842121
>not Aria of Sorrow
Look deep within you, you know it's true.

>>383842053
It has Actual Exploration too unlike every game after.

>>383841794
I know its a piece of crap god of war wannabe but I mean, if you are looking towards true Castlevania experiences, you don't go with the 3D games to begin with

>>383842116
If there was draculas curse you'd have an argument.

>>383842121
OOE is way too easy and the level design combines the worst parts of classic castlevania and metroidvania design to leave most of the game being "walk down this hallway full of enemies", it also made the quest/grinding stuff super annoying again after POR finally fixed this shit from the GBA games

>>383842224
aria is a little too simplistic in terms of the abilities you get and the enemy design because of the hardware limitations. part of what makes POR so great is that it has tons of unique things to play around with on a level that only sotn beats

>>383842224
close second my friend and somehow better than it's sequel

>>383837406
dude that filter is rough on the eyes.

>>383837964
There's still super metroid.

>>383842030
And you sir! Are you waiting to receive my limp penis?

>>383841718
>not running a GBA game at 3840x2560

Pleb.

that being said OoE is the ultimate waifuvania, legendfags and PoRfags need not apply.

>>383842403
>OOE is way too easy
It's the hardest Metroidvania though, especially level 1 hard mode

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>>383842403
>OOE is way too easy and the level design combines the worst parts of classic castlevania and metroidvania design
i disagree wholeheartedly, OoE is the closest you'll get to a perfect mix of the two without being borderline unplayable

also, it's leagues harder than sotn, aos/dos, etc. BECAUSE of the classical elements, i mean shit man, that's what makes things like julius mode so fun or in ooe's case, albus mode busting caps at demons is gangster as fuck anon, you should try it sometime

also it deserves some special status being iga's last official castlevania, complete with him sneaking in classic music tracks and everything, shit is money son

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Harmony of Despair PC release when?
Harmony of Despair 2 when?
I'd kill to be able to do a fresh playthrough alongside other people again.

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>>383842701
I'd say they're all on the same level in that category.

>>383842224
I wish Aria would be remade with Dawn's quality of life improvements. But Aria is definitely still the best.

>>383842403
OoE is definitely not easy.

>>383836102
It had shit level design, terrible music quality, and was too easy. The middle Igavanias on both GBA and DS were weak as fuck.

>>383842825
Not in the slightest. Outside of level 1 hard mode the fact that you regenerate MP lightning fast means that you can just spam regular enemies to death with endless axes or whatever screen clearing move, and to accommodate medals you get for not taking damage from a boss they made every single boss have a super rigid pattern that makes them really easy too once you know what it is.

level 1 hard mode in POR is way way harder because its the only handheld game that has proper classicvania level design (IE the enemies and stage hazzards are arranged to shut down your obvious path of movement). When a respawning bat is constantly flying through the area you need to jump across with it taking 1/4th of your health on contact you have to try real hard, especially since unlike OOE you can't just spam lightning bolts at it or something because your resources are more limited.

>>383842914
>OoE is the closest you'll get to a perfect mix of the two without being borderline unplayable
What do you mean by this? it's portrait of ruin that has the levels that have actual asshole level design like classic games, with stuff like nation of fools and a proper clocktower with petryfying medusas that leave you open to moving platforms that dump you into spikes, while in OOE all the levels are just hallways. It's not really a metoidvania either because until you get to the castle the levels are super linear with mostly zero reason to head back (especially if you don't somehow miss the townsfolk) and even the castle is less open ended than the one in POR is (especially since POR has lots of fun sequence break glitches that OOE doesn't)

OOE isn't a bad game by any means, but it's clear that the increasingly small budget IGA was getting combined with them actually making all new assets for the first time in ages damaged the gameplay

>>383843067
>not having to switch between skula and undine.
Pure bliss

>>383843492
To be fair PoR had the Ancient Armor, so things get a lot easier in hard mode level 1 after you get past the twins.

>>383843679
and OOE has stuff like the death ring that don't matter on level 1 runs, so it's about equal in that aspect

>>383836102
Graphics and music, and there's no reason to get the collectibles, I've played a mod that improves the graphics somewhat, but that drone is the fucking death of me, VK2 is the only saving grace.

At least it's not as bad as DOS's Enemy placement or level design which went in an out of recycled assets and lower resolution paint photographs, with the godless glyph system that no one wanted, real dick move turning your game into a testing environment for the better POR and OOE when it's a sequel to one of the best Metroidvanias ever made, is even slower with Soma's sluggish movement, and again awful enemy placement.

I was gonna write a longer talk on how bad the enemy placement actually is, from issues with how the did the luck and item drop systems to the lack of soul drop rate to actually getting stuck at the waterfall area because of a few things they didn't take into consideration or being able to activate a cutscene from the wrong location if you did the clocktower first, but nah.

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>We will never get a traditional castlevania game ever again.

>>383843836
>We will never get a castlevania game ever again.
ftfy

>>383843836
I would think it'd be the smartest thing Konami could do if they felt like making a new one so they avoid people turning their noses up because Bloodstained is also coming.

>>383843492
>the fact that you regenerate MP lightning fast means that you can just spam regular enemies to death with endless axes or whatever screen clearing move
What are you talking about? That uses hearts which are in limited stock, not MP. MP is pretty much just regular attack stamina.
>and to accommodate medals you get for not taking damage from a boss they made every single boss have a super rigid pattern that makes them really easy too once you know what it is.
Literally all Metroidvania games are like this, they have either no RNG or almost no RNG. That's also not completely true since both Death and the skull thing have some RNG to them.
>level 1 hard mode in POR is way way harder
Not at all, now here you CAN spam magic attacks as much as you want because MP isn't a finite resource. The level design doesn't mean much because you can trivialize it with Charlotte's magic and play defensively because again, MP regenerates. You also have more long range broken spells in that game, and the bosses are significantly easier and more abusable. The bats (and more importantly flying skeletons) are way more significant in OoE because they're completely random and you don't have any good defensive tools against them when you need them the most (Ruvas Forest, Skeleton Cave)

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>>383842919
I was the top ranked Julius back on the 360 version, and I think also the second or third ranked non-Soma player. I don't know why the game got ignored so much.

>>383843759
You can grind for ancient armor early in PoR, OoE's death ring appears near the end of the game. It's also not as effective because you do want to take it off outside of boss fights since you can survive more than one hit if you're well equipped, and heal the rest.

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>>383843492
>What do you mean by this? it's portrait of ruin that has the levels that have actual asshole level design like classic games, with stuff like nation of fools and a proper clocktower with petryfying medusas that leave you open to moving platforms that dump you into spikes, while in OOE all the levels are just hallways
but that's literally the case for most of the classicvania library, what you've described sounds more akin to a metroidvania than anything
>it's not really a metroidvania either
that's the gist of what i was saying, it's neither or, it's a combination of both and works well as such, whereas most people who find fault with it go in expecting exclusively one or the other and are meant with obvious disappointment

i'll give you that the castle was kind of a let down in comparison to other titles, but OoE isn't easy by traditional standards i'm not going to talk shit with you about level 1 modes, that's arbitrary difficulty, i'm talking defaults, going in blindand it's definitely not lacking in the classic or IGA department, so idk what you're on about there

>>383843836
Too hard for modern audiences.
I can already see the rage a life system would cause on journalists who cant get past the first boss.

While I liked HoD, the music was ear bleedingly bad and the visuals looked a lot worse because they made it way too vibrant to compensate for the lack of a GBA backlight.

I thought it was the weakest of the GBA Castlevanias, but not a bad game.

>>383844045
>What are you talking about? That uses hearts which are in limited stock, not MP. MP is pretty much just regular attack stamina.
The only things that use hearts are the special combo attacks that combine your two glyphs. Axes, homing lightning bolts, all kinds of wacky projectiles that let you wreck enemies from the other saftey use your quickly regenerating MP just like the melee glyphs.

The rest of this post is talking like you're quite the expert on this game, but you don't know something basic like this?

>>383844031
To bad it will never happen. If we ever even get a new game it will just be another SoTN or God of War clone. All I want is the simple, straightforward action of the first game.

it amazes me that people shit on HoD in the same universe where CotM exists.

>>383844143
Fucking Soma.
>Hurr how do we nerf Soma?
>I know, how about we make the DLC bosses resistant to Valmanway and then give Somas that beat the DLC stronger Valmanways

>>383844403
>Axes, homing lightning bolts, all kinds of wacky projectiles that let you wreck enemies from the other saftey use your quickly regenerating MP just like the melee glyphs.
None of which are available to you during the hardest parts of the game as I've already mentioned

>>383844143
>I don't know why the game got ignored so much.
Because it's terrible. Ignoring the part where the game is basically unplayable without extreme grinding in single player because most characters just can't do enough damage to puppet master fast enough, it had crazy character balance that essentially divided the game into soma, alucard-aka boring soma and everyone else (give or take one specific broken move the other characters had), kept the absolute worst part of these games (grinding for drops) and made it more annoying and the coolest part of the whole game (doing all of castlevania 1 at once) is fucking DLC.

The shitty voice acting didn't help either

How do I get the best current Castlevania experience? Which games do I play?

>>383844521
You can get axe in the second or third area from a random drop and proceed to faceroll the entire first half of the game until you start getting the actual broken glyphs

>>383844785
Ruvas Forest is the second area. I believe you can grind for an axe in the monastery but it's pointless in Ruvas Forest because the challenge comes from the constantly spawning flying cunts. It's even more useless in Skeleton Cave, you're better off with zombie/melee/luminatio.

>>383841440

I fucking love that game. Did you like it?

>>383844667
>Ignoring the part where the game is basically unplayable without extreme grinding in single player because most characters just can't do enough damage to puppet master fast enough
The puppets die based on hits, not damage. Any character can solo PM if they're not using slow weapons.
>bad balance
Yeah, I agree, but it's not like it's a competitive game anyway, outside of leaderboards. The only problem was with faggot Soma players rushing the boss and leaving everyone else behind.
>kept the absolute worst part of these games (grinding for drops)
The drop rates could certainly stand to be raised a lot, but people wouldn't have much motivation to keep playing if leaderboards were the only goal.
>and the coolest part of the whole game (doing all of castlevania 1 at once) is fucking DLC.
It was developed months after release, so why is that a bad thing?
>The shitty voice acting didn't help either
Castlevania has never had good voice acting. But it was also dual-audio.

>>383844785
Also if you want to compare broken spells, in PoR you can get Rock Riot right away, which absolutely destroys bosses and abuse Gale Force to take everything out at a safe distance

>>383845017
I really liked the combat and devil system. The OST was amazing too.

My biggest problem with the game is how most of it is just running through the exact same corridors until you stumble into a boss fight.

>>383845218
Excellent, we are now friends.

Yeah, there was a lot of that, but pretty much everything else was so enjoyable that it didn't matter much.

>>383845218
>My biggest problem with the game is how most of it is just running through the exact same corridors until you stumble into a boss fight.
Same here, but also that it keeps locking you into rooms until you kill all the enemies. I don't know why the 3D metroidvanias insisted on putting the focus on combat instead of exploration like the 2D metroidvanias.

>>383845070
>Any character can solo PM if they're not using slow weapons.
You mean like any whip user because their subweapons take tons of MP for no reason despite being horrible?

The problem with the balance even though it's a co-op game, even without soma just skipping the entier level and making you feel like an asshole, is that everyone else has a way limited representaton of their powers but soma gets a soul from literally every enemy in the game. Meanwhile jonathan doesn't get fun unique subwweapons from his game or access to strong alternate weapons from his game like nebula or heavenly sword because he was shoehorned into being the whip character before the belmont DLC, shanoa and charlotte get a handful of spells, richter isn't the speed monster he was in SOTN, alucard is missing some classic moves from his game ect ect

I would understand trying to limit characters if, again, soma didn't get literally everything. It just makes you feel like a chump for playing anyone else

One thing I don't like about Kojima's art is how all the character's turned into long haired twink boys, it always bothered me how in SoTN they changed Dracula's sprite to look more like his portrait but they didn't do the same for Richter even though he had short hair and a headband while his portrait had long hair and no headband

>>383842403
OoE had different areas + Dracula's castle tho. And Dracula's castle is always some top tier metroidvania map design.

>>383844160
>early
Old Axe Armor only appears in the second set of paintings, when you get there you already explored the whole castle.

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>just accidentally deleted my Aria of Sorrow save
Well i guess im done with it for now. What other Castlevania should i try next?

>>383845506
They had to rush some stuff due time constraints. iirc they changed Richter's sprites in the Saturn version though.

>>383845774
circle of the moon

good luck getting cards

>>383837964
Circle of the Moon.

>>383845774
If you are done with all the GBA Castlevanias, proceed to Dawn of Sorrow and the other DS games

>>383845827
Cards aren't that difficult to get. The only rage inducing ones are the Battle Arena cards.

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Who was in the wrong here?

Nothing went wrong. People just don't seem to like NES-style chiptunes for some reason. I thought the soundtrack's "low fidelity" chiptunes actually enhanced the spookiness of the castle and were appropriate for the themes of the game.

HoD was so damn fun

>>383844218
>Castlevania the new Dark Souls?!

God fucking damn it. I hate modern journalism. J Jonah Jameson would be displeased.

>>383845719
That's the last third or even half of the game as opposed to Order of Ecclesia where you get it when you're practically done with the entire game

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Why aren't you playing the DS Castlevania games on your smartphone? DS emulation is flawless on smartphones.

>>383846116
Why not play it on pc?

>>383846116
because i can afford a ds and the games i want to play on it

>>383840794
Who the fuck played the saturn version?

the reason there's no new traditional Castlevania is because no one fucking bought Rebirth despite being a great game

>>383846104
>half
The only thing besides the paintings are Dracula and the optional Nest of Evil. The first 4 paintings are around the same size as the second set and you have to do the entire castle before fighting the twins.

>>383845469
>You mean like any whip user because their subweapons take tons of MP for no reason despite being horrible?
The whip is more than fast enough to kill them just with it alone. I was a Julius and Richter main man, I know this shit.
>Meanwhile jonathan doesn't get fun unique subwweapons from his game or access to strong alternate weapons from his game like nebula or heavenly sword because he was shoehorned into being the whip character before the belmont DLC
Yeah, that totally sucked, but Jonathan did get a lot of subweapons to have his own niche, at least. The Soma pandering from the devs was intense.
> richter isn't the speed monster he was in SOTN
He was still top tier, though.
>I would understand trying to limit characters if, again, soma didn't get literally everything. It just makes you feel like a chump for playing anyone else
So long as you have the speed boots you could typically keep up with Somas at least, and the Getsu Fuma stage solved the problem by having you need to kill all the minibosses first, so everyone had to get involved (that stage was fucking great all around). But yeah, I'm not gonna deny that the balance was fucked.

>>383846327
>Wiiware release with no marketing
Yeah I wonder why noone bought it, Konami.

>>383846242
I did because of kung fu Maria.

>>383845951
>>383845827
I ragequit my last playthrough of CotM after I spent a full 90 minutes grinding the plant enemy in the sewer for its card without having it drop. For how important the cards are to the game's mechanics it's absurd that their drop rates were so low.

>>383846013
Is this a fan game?

>>383846116
Because I have a 3DS and it's far better playing them on that.

>>383846116
What's the best ds emulator for android devices. I'm down for a shitty touch screen experience with OoE

>>383846346
Yeah half is exaggerating it, but don't downplay it since they are quite lengthy levels with their own boss fights. It's not like OoE where you just have 2 back to back boss fights left, optional content aside. People who say the Death Ring is some crazy broken item likely base that on NG+

>>383845805
Yeah, they did. I like the new spriteset there though it is sort of slapdash. It's still not really consistent with what you see in the artwork or Richter's sprite at the colosseum.

>>383846554
Serio's Castlevania Fighter

>>383844218
Modern gamers have trouble beating Crash Bandicoot. Crash fucking Bandicoot.

These games aren't hard. People just suck at videogames now.

>>383836102
>What went wrong with Harmony of Dissonance.

Circle of the Moon was made by the N64 devs, and HoD is Iga's new team. So this was their first shot at it. Iga felt that Circle was too dark on the GBA screen, so he made it more technicolor, and he wanted it to be a mini-SotN on handhelds. Both decent ideas, but it led to some awful execution. HoD is a mess. Aria was started part way through HoD, and they clearly learned their lessons.

>>383846116
because I have a 3DS and my original cartridges

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>>383846116
But I can't play this on my phone and I beat all the other metroidvanias

My dudes why am I so obsessed with Castlevania? I haven't played it in years, I fucking love the sidescrolling Castlevania and also Metroidvanias but it keeps calling to me, I need to play it, why the fuck is there no good one on 3DS? FUCK.

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>>383847189
>why the fuck is there no good one on 3DS? FUCK.

>>383847189
I know exactly this feel. Metroidvania is a genre I need a constant drip into my bloodstream for. I threw $300 burger bucks at Bloodstained. I need more. Fuck.

>>383847369

Please show me a good Castlevania on 3DS I will buy it right fucking now.

>>383847404

But the thing is that I love the classic style games too quite a lot despite being frustrating and hard as fuck, there's just something about it.

>>383836102
it's way too fucking easy for a CastleMania game

>>383847439
Castlevania 1, 3, 4 and Dracula x on Virtual Console :^)

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>>383847439
oh shit, you meant 3ds exclusive, i thought you just meant playable on the 3ds

sorry, no such thing exists, don't fall for mercurysteam lies

>>383846242
I'm actually playing it right now lol

It's kind of a mess. Slowdown happens almost constantly and it can get really bad at times.

The new areas are totally throwaway, but some of the new items and music are nice. Being able to use Richter (and Maria) wihout beating the game first is nice too.

>>383836102
Harmony of Dissonance... This could be a name for a Pink Floyd album

>>383841440
I am fucking dying to play this game again. I could swear it spurred my obsession with grinding in games

>>383837964
Arie of Sorrow>Dawn of Sorrow>Portrait of Ruin>Order of Ecclesia

Do the bell curve

>>383836102
Nothing went wrong.
HoD is at least a decent game.
But it adds nothing to Castlevania.

Personally it was too easy and I didn't like the castles map.

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Why Portrait of the Ruin keeps freezing on my R4?

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SoTN remake for PS4 when!?

>>383847773
Gotta catch 'em all, anon. Hell pokeymans and chairs alike.

>>383848272
>he actually believes this
lol

>>383848272

>The remake meme

NO

NO

NO
NO
NO
NO

Those never, ever work out.

The "remake meme" needs to DIE!

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>>383848289
Perfect taste based anon

>>383848338
>>383848382
>t. Nintentoddlers

>>383848289
>Dawn of Sorrow above anything

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>>383848289
WRONG

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>>383848289
>Dawn of Sorrow best of the DS games
>Circle of the Moon anything but bottom tier

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>H-HE'S FAST...!

>>383848627
That was a good thread.

What's with this ludo and kino shit? Is it a new auto-replace like desu?

>>383848289
PoR>SOTN>AoS>DoS>CotM>OoE>HoD

ftfy

>>383848272
the ps4 has literally no castlevania games

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>>383848289
Now rank the Belmonts from strongest to weakest
>Soma
>Alucard
>Justin
>Simon
>Richard
>Julian
>Trevor
>Leon

>>383848289
I've seen every metroidvania passionately touted as both the worst and best one

>>383848937
Just shows how consistently high quality the games are

>>383848835
And that needs to change

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>>383848807
it's called a word filter, newfag, and no
>>383848824
>SotN
>AoS
>DoS
>OoE
>PoR
>CotM
>HoD
is the correct ranking
>>383848910
>*ignores your bait*
julius is equal with richter, everyone else is amateur hour

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>>383848910
>Alucard
>Soma
>Belmont

>Justin
Who?

>>383848910
>Soma
>Belmont

>>383848937
We all know in our heart of hearts that they're all great.

>>383849146
Order is actually bad.

>>383849106
PoR is the best, my boy.

>>383849106
>Julius
>Richter
Stop using the weeb names. Also neither of them can compare to Alucard let alone Soma

Was Harmony of Despair any good?

>>383849187
It was my least favorite Metroidvania, but I still liked it.

>>383849187
>>383848289
This is bait. Although Order of Ecclesia isn't a typical metroidvania, it's still an excellent game with some of the best boss fights

CotM > SotN > AoS > OoE > DoS > PoR > HoD > MoF

>>383848910
Kokoro > all others

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>>383849187
>>383849192
>mfw these posts
uncultured swine
>>383849248
be more subtle, i didn't even smile

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>>383849121
>Not knowing who Justin Belmont is
Fucking casual

>>383849265
It was ok but it got completly overshadowed by CotM and Aria.

>>383849318
PoR is the best. "Johnathan!" "Charlotte!" pure fucking kino

I unironically enjoyed the anime and am interested in seeing the trio take down Dracula in a second season.
>inb4 muh lore

>>383849365
Justin =/= Juste

>no classic collection to tie in with the show
what the fuck Konami

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Why is Orlox so important?

>>383849498
Juste is a mistranslation of Justin

>>383848910
Julius > Gabriel > Richter > Leon > Trevor > Simon > Juste

>>383849482
But the "lore" so far is pretty accurate aside from them meeting sooner.

>>383849482
at least you're self aware enough to know it's shit
>>383849515
>muh product tie-ins
die monster

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*blocks your path*

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>>383849574
>Spic Castlevania shit
Not even once

>>383849418
It's my least favorite of the DS games and was pretty bland overall. I liked the area themes but then they recycled them all. The actual level designs were okay but the bosses were weak and the character switching gimmick sucked.

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>>383849740
shit taste boy

>>383849720
The first one is better than the other 3D games.

>>383849620
>Implying it's shit.

>>383849786
If that were the case PoR would be my favorite.

>>383849620
It's the best we're gonna get to some animated Castlevania and I'm gonna eat it up

>>383849851
owned lel

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>>383849813
>implying it isn't
>>383849851
PoRfags eternally btfo
>>383849991
you're what's wrong with being a fan of anything

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>still no Harmony of Despair on PC

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>>383849780

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>>383850145
>Implying it is

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>>383836102
the map design is really bad. it is not fun to navigate hrough the the game at all. especially with the amount of back tracking the genre requires

>>383836102
the game with the darkest music and ambience of all the saga, one of my favourite ones

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>>383849482
*tips fedora*

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>>383850301
>implying i would imply that it is not fecal in nature

>>383837964
God damn does that look absolutely fabulous, I'd nuke something just to get an oil painted version of that.

>>383850454
>Derrieredevastated Christfags at it again because ONE DUDE was an asshole and Christian
God you people are like Muslims and music in games.

>>383841794
>>383841776
LoS1 isn't bad.

>>383836102
It's just kinda half-assed. All the fundamentals are present, but unpolished and not well done.

The whole game just feels awkward, from the sprite size ratios, to the colors and color clashing, to the controls, to the map design, to the music, to the interior decorating collectathon.

It's a solid example of a game where the developers knew what they needed to do, but just didn't care all that much.

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Which drac is the best boss and why is it OoE?

Why the hate for DoS? It had a great soundtrack, collecting shouls was fun, great exploration and rewards for doing so. Bosses were a good mix of classics and new, difficulty ramped up gradually and because of the ds screen you had a lot more oversight than on the gba.
The only things that were wrong were the bland anime portraits and the touchscreen seal gimmick.

>>383850617
you're right, it's fucking awful

>>383850707
Portrait of Ruin Dracula + Death combo was great

>>383850707
Have at you

>>383848126
>R4

There is your answer.

Try formatting your SD card

>>383850772
It's better than any of the other 3D games save for maybe Curse of Darkness.

So what was /v/'s opinion on the anime? I thought it was pretty meh.

>>383850848
I don't know how I forgot about that, probably wiped by the big bat thing afterwards

>>383848089
Most logical approach.

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>>383850585
>even insinuating that it is diarrhea

>>383836102
It's not a classicvania

>>383848627
>>383848673
What

>>383851006
It's alright. Shows that the writers respected the series story a lot and has some cool moments and that 90's anime atmosphere. The lack of music is shit though. I think it's all you can hope for when it comes to a Castlevania adaptation, it will never be a masterpiece.

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>>383850942
>nah, it really isn't
>>383851076
>daring to insist that it isn't the resultant bowel movement from a diet solely consisting of feces

>>383850942
You are wrong because CoD is better than LoS and LoI is better than CoD.

>>383851335
I liked it as an homage, but it wasn't a very good show on its own merits, yeah.

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>Metroid Prime 4 and Metroid 2D announced
>Castlevania might come back too

Hold me

>>383848289
>OoE last
EVEN FORGETTING

>>383848289

SotN>AoS>PoR>DoS>OoE>HoD

FTFY

>>383850145
An appeal to normies was the only way we were gonna get a Castlevania anime with Konami holding the series by the balls so deal with it

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>>383851536
>castlevania comes back as a pachinko machine
>metroid games are ruined by mercurysteams involvement
pottery

>>383851724
>metroid games are ruined by mercurysteams involvement

As code monkeys? Doubt it.

>>383837662
>Just like the one in the bible.
?

>>383836102
>What went wrong with Harmony of Dissonance?
being discount SotN with Metroid Prime 2 "Light-Dark world" mechanics

>>383851945
>Metroid Prime 2 "Light-Dark world" mechanics
I swear to God the only games where this kind of mechanic actually works are the Oracles.

>>383851814
They're more than code monkeys, they're also idea guys. They suggested the melee counter, after all.

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>>383851697
oh fuck off, i'd rather them stop cutting checks and let the series die with some dignity intact than one trick pony it into the mainstream via a mediocre """"""anime""""""" just so your pathetic ass can lap up it's entrails
>>383851814
stranger things have happened, nothing is promised, i have no hidden desire to see metroid flop, especially return, but their mere presence is worrisome around any project, let alone one that valuable

>>383852098
What about Link to the Past?

>>383852178
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt just because I'm fucking happy that Metroid is back.

Also no matter what they do can't be worse than Federation Force

>>383852247
Don't go down that road. We'll be flooded by OoT fags and the stink of overfilled adult diapers before you know it.

Friendly reminder that the Italian dub is the best way to watch the anime.

>>383852247
LttP just forgot about the light world as soon as you beat dungeon 3.
You only really return to it for some gimmick to get to a dark world dungeon.
Good design would incorporate both so it really feels like a reflection of another world, rather than just the next area.

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>He says Ralph instead of Trevor

>>383850707

Something I never realized: Is Drac canon supposed to be 2 meters tall or is it a gaming convention?

>>383852554
post a lin to support your claim you lazy fucker, I'm not going to look for it, so spoon fed us to prove it faggot

>>383852247
pretty much if someone was locked up for life in a jail cell and you gave them every castlevania, metroid, zelda, and mario, and an rpg, sports game, and fps of their choice, they'd be set for life.

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>>383852795
>he says Christopher instead of Leon C. Belmont

>>383848558
>Circle of the Moon anything but bottom tier
Such shit taste

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>>383852997
That man had quite the career.

>>383851602
WHO RAISED YOU

It tried to recaptured SotN, which was flawed to begin with.

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>all these Castlevania threads lately
Is this series slowly coming back to life?

>>383842919
This so fucking much.

>>383854152
thanks to NF, doubt Konami will do anything to bank on its popularity besides more pachinko

>>383854152
It's because of the Netflix series, it'll eventually die down until Season 2 starts and Konami will still be neglecting the series because they only care about the Japanese market, which this series is isn't very popular in

>>383854152
For the fans?
The netflix show reignited a passion for the series.
For the games?
You rike Pachinko?

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Konami said they're considering a Castlevania for the Switch.

Will it be a Classic Castlevania or a Metroidvania? Or something completely new?

>>383854430
Port of Symphony of the Night
When that sells well, port of the DS games

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>How to Ruin a Perfectly Ok Game: The Item

>>383854430
source or you're full of shit and trying to stir the pot
>>383854152
see:
>>383854269
>>383854351
>>383854396

>>383854430
>if enough people buy our next castlevania game, we'll consider making more!
>it's an NES collection of raw ports for 1-3.
>lol sorry it didn't sell, can't make more for you

Pulling some capcom shit sounds more likely, and would not surprise me.

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Would any of you think that this was a Castlevania game at first glance? Who thought this shit wa a good idea?

>>383854594
Literally just google "Castlevania Switch" you will get dozens of articles talking about it. After Super Bomberman R did well there are now internal discussions on what to do with Castlevania next.

So it's my understanding that the series went like this
>NES Castlevania games 1, 2, & 3
>SNES Castlevania 4, different but still in the same style
>then PSX Symphony of the Night
>everything after SotN was just SotN style and old style was dead and buried?

>>383854728
Why is my nigga Trevor all belts. Why does Shanoa look like kitchen utensils. Who is that short faggot. Why is Grant some mummy looking weirdo. Why is Simon just Light. Why does Death look like shit.

>>383854728
Death Note was popular as all fuck at the time. Suits probably thought banking on its artist was a sure thing.

>>383854728
No, None of the characters remotely resemble what they did in any of the other games. Saw that shit and 360'ed away

>>383854746
no, because i didn't make the claim, it isn't my job to back up what you've said and fucking internet discussions among a bunch of nobodies don't count
>Konami said they're considering a Castlevania for the Switch.
show me the article where someone representing konami said this

>>383854728
I liked that Cornell tho

I've never played a Castlevania game before but just watched the Anime.

Which one should I play first?

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>>383855016
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2017/06/10/konami-is-thinking-about-bringing-a-new-castlevania-game-to-the-switch/&refURL=https://www.google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/

fine you fuckin donut

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>>383855146
3 if you want the game what you just watched was based from.

SOTN if you just want to get in on the ground floor of what most people like the series for nowadays.

1 if you just want to start in order.

>>383855146
3 and then symphony of the night

>>383855197
I fucked up the link, here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2017/06/10/konami-is-thinking-about-bringing-a-new-castlevania-game-to-the-switch/#483e8e803c23

>>383854576
Die in a fire, that had literally no effect on the game.

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>>383855197
>pls whitelist
welp, guess i'll never know if you were full of shit or not ollie
>>383855146
you shouldn't, you'll save yourself from inevitable disappointment

>>383855146
Japanese version of Dracula's Curse, Rondo of Blood, and the Symphony of the Night, everything else is optional

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>Konami decides to follow up on the Netflix series success with Lords of Shadow 3 instead of a traditional Castlevania

My anguish would be unfathomable.

>>383844425

I'd like a fully fledged Legend of Princess.

>>383855742
please define "traditional castlevania"

So I was looking up where the shield rod was in SotN since I forgot, and apparently the Mablung (a Spectral Sword drop) can activate the shield powers as well? What the fuck? This is news to me. The description sure doesn't say anything about this.

>>383855742
>konami uses its new LoS game to build on a new "shared universe" direction for its IPs, taking a cue from the capeshit revolution in the west
>solid snake playable, confirmed set in the same world as metal gear

Watch it happen. Cap this post.

>>383855852
>shield rod was in SotN
FUCK that room. I only learnt soul steal inputs for beelzebub, but I am aware soul steal kinda wrecks that room.

>>383855824
you know what the fuck he means; basically anything that isn't 3d action focused garbage

i know what he means because i'd be just as mad if not more so desu, idk why you're having trouble interpreting such a simple statement

>>383856039
No cause there are SOTN games and classic Castlevania games. Stop mixing the two.

>>383856107
so when you asked him to define what he means, neither of those two particular strains of castlevania came to mind, and you were prompted to ask him exactly what he meant, because it surely couldn't have been either of those? ok

>>383852809
https://a.pomf.cat/ksbjrn.webm

>>383855824
Classic Castlevania you doofus

>>383856025
Honestly a shared universe with Metal Gear doesn't sound to crazy since Castlevania games don't take place in a fantasy and they've even gone as far as the near future

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>>383855440
There is no fucking reason to ever stop running after you get the damn things. Pair this with the fact that you get them five minutes into the game.
They provide no depth to the gameplay whatsoever and only serve as a nuisance since NOT using them brings no benefit.
The game got marginally better in my eyes as soon as I used a hex cheat to set the running variable to always be enabled.

You have the audacity to tell me they have no effect on the game, but yet you also cannot name a single good thing they contribute to it. It's a completely pointless mechanic and a waste of gameplay and inputs.

>>383856025
>it's bigboss
>he's scared shitless of dracula

>>383856393
>but yet you also cannot name a single good thing they contribute to it
they make you run faster

>>383852448
>Metroid is back.
I'm going to laugh at you on release day.

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>could the MGS series and Castlevania series be connected?

Hmmm

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>>383840118
CHARLOTTE!

>>383854728
Sypha - Stupid, no cloak like the games
Cornell - Armor is overdone but he looks decent actually
Trevor - Retarded, obligatory belt and strap JRPG character
Shanoa - "Ohhhh we're too lazy to animate her hair lets make her look like a lesbian nun"
Eric - Look, fighting kids so cool!!!! HE'S AN ADULT IN EVERY OTHER GAME ASSHOLES
Grant - We're they even trying with this redesign??? A voldo ripoff that is extra mummy??
Maria - I only care about Richter and boobies
Simon - Konami's deal with the Death Note artist. They get recognition and he gets to draw Simon however he wants
Alucard - Design didn't change too much but too much of the angsty teen vibe going on
Dracula - Remove that retarded collar on his cape and the design actually looks pretty good
Carmilla - obligatory slut
Death - No idea what they were even going for in this one
Aeon - Decent, probably because he was a brand new character.

Fuck this game. At least the music was ok

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>>383856781
>not holding hands and crying with him because despite being cautious, you shared the same hopes
fuck outta here, men can dream anon, men can dream
>>383856906
shame kojima never really fucked around with easter eggs to that degree again

>>383842464
This game needed filters it's ugly as shit without scanlines

I just finished CotM and HoD for the first time this week.

CotM had the better castle and music, but double tapping for run was awful and the grind for cards was annoying.
Moving around in HoD felt better overall.

>>383857059
But I don't share the same hopes I just enjoy when I'm right.

>>383854786
just google castlevania wikipedia page, the games are not in order and too much to explain, fuck there's probably a youtube explaining the time line, I've seen one, and then you have jap only games that got released here later, and a couple remakes

>>383856484
I'm talking about the walking, not the running. The running should've been the default speed. That's the whole point you baka ass motherfucker.
See how you can't point anything that the mechanic adds? That's because it adds nothing, and instead worsens the game for no reason. Two movement speeds have no business being implemented in this manner in a game like this. Either have it with dashes, special souls or movement abilities binded to separate buttons, but not fucking double tapping.

>>383857194
so you're just some edgy summerfag that wants something to fail and fuel his shitposts

to each his own

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Roughly how much would it cost to hire a classically trained fresco artist to paint a fully realized rendition of this on my wall?

>>383856393
It's SotN Richter controls. Sliding on straightaways is faster, anyways.

>>383857018
Judgment's music was sex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGhNGGJ4gO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-eRL9J7myw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpV49t5DeQk

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>this was a Castlevania Wii game

>>383857510
It's probably cheaper to ask /p/ or a /wg/ fag to apply some dank filters in Photoshop and put it on a nice frame

>>383857327
You sound a little mad anon.

>>383836102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSsTm_yz0U

Will Castlevania ever be this kino again?

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>>383857758
>lel u mad xD
thanks for confirming my suspicions

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>>383857715
That would be shit, I want a fresco

>>383856961
JONASAN

>>383856781
so have you seen any footage at all (there's a lot) or read anything about the game

of course not, you just saw the name "mercurysteam" and lost your shit

even if the game is bad you would have to be one miserable fuck to lord that over fucking metroid fans of all people

>>383858169
>of course not, you just saw the name "mercurysteam" and lost your shit
to be fair, i initially did the same and am still pretty wary, but he's already admitted a lack of actual interest so it's not surprising that he doesn't know much more than that
>even if the game is bad you would have to be one miserable fuck to lord that over fucking metroid fans of all people
same, couldn't agree more senpai, but again, he's just in it for TORtanic hopes, which says all you need to know about how he came to be here

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>>383844756

First play Simphony of the Night. Then, you get four lines:

>I love this shit so much, I want to play rehashes of this over and over again!
Go to the DS and GBA games.

>I enjoyed, but I am a fucking hipster and don't want to admit I liked something everybody likes
Play the Snes and early ones.

>It's kind of fun, but I want a 3D game
N64 and the Ps2 tittles. (I think I am the only one in this board that actually loves Castlevania64. I played a lot when I were a children, so the nostalgia googles can't make me see anything beyond an amazing game.)

>you don't get it, I want something where I can see the money invested!

Lord of Shadows series.

>>383849318
this

>>383850454
you know the series takes place in the dark ages where science was ostracized by the church, that shit did happen

>>383859052
>in the dark ages where science was ostracized by the church
that's pretty sweeping though, since the church engaged in it's own scientific pursuits as well

t. non-believer who has no interest in seeing this thread turn into another spiritual circlejerk

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>>383858407
You can enjoy both metroidvania and classicvania, anon. It's not mutually exclusive.

>>383849780
>everything after SotN was just SotN style and old style was dead and buried?
Not really, there were a few classicvanias, some 3D games and a fighting game abomination.

>>383836261
Main entrance theme is goat.
>dat jazzy chords
>>383836102
Shit magic/skills system. Previous game had cool card system and the next game cool weapons system. Very short and easy (next game was too, previous had a good amount of difficulty).

>>383859520
you're only allowed to like one game which is "the very best" when you're a sad fuck who is so insecure about his hobby that you have to turn it into a dick measuring contest, that's why there's daily ranking threads where people do nothing but post some numbers in different orders and get pissed off

>>383858407
You mean

>I enjoyed it, but I would rather get fucked in the ass while climbing stairs
Play the NES games.

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Reminder that she's the only best girl

>>383839006
Circle of the moon is fucking great, the most difficult metroidvania game.

>>383856270
And Dracula: https://a.pomf.cat/rhmxlx.webm

>>383854786
Of the Canon games there's

Classic:
>Castlevania 3: Dracula's Curse (NES)
>Castlevania Adventure (GB)
>Castlevania Adventure 2: Belmont's Revenge (GB)
>Castlevania (NES)
>Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest (NES)
>Castlevania: Rondo of Blood (PCE)
>Castlevania: Bloodlines (GEN)

Metroid:
>Harmony of Dissonance (GBA)
>Symphony of the Night (PS1)
>Order of Ecclesia (NDS)
>Portrait of Ruin (NDS)
>Aria of Sorrow (GBA)
>Dawn of Sorrow (NDS)

3D:
>Lament of Innocence (PS2)
>Curse of Darkness (PS2)

There are three remakes of Canon games:
>Super Castlevania IV (Castlevania 1) (SNES)
>Dracula X Chronicles (Rondo of Blood) (PSP_
>Castlevania: The Adventure: Rebirth (Castlevania Adventure 1) (Wii)

And two Semi-canon games:
Legacy of Darkness (N64)
Circle of the Moon (GBA)

>>383843836
Rondo of blood was the perfect traditional castlevania game, they had to go some other place from there.

>>383859820
it's almost like..people feel differently about the things they like and kind of like...they enjoy discussing these things by..ranking them in such a way that others know where they stand..!

mind=blown

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>>383860050
You're forgetting X68000.

>>383860185
What's so bad about Rondo of Blood?

>>383860268
what's sad is that this is the standard answer to any argument ever on /v/, it's not even original
How is posting numbers and getting pissed a discussion? How is only being allowed to like one game to show how illuminated you are for not liking the other virtual children toys that are obviously inferior to your refined gentleman's taste not overcompensating for being insecure about your hobby?

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>>383860268
You are far too optimistic about the motives of posters and what they post, to be hanging around in this hellhole.

Did you lose a bet or something?

What's the best way to play Symphony of the Night? Do I just buy it off PSN?

>>383859537
Los1 was by far the best 3d CV and I'll fight anyone about that, it was good, also highest selling CV of all time. Most fags never finished the game but it was a mild masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e08HAZHx-p0

pulls from classicvania, metroidvania, d&d, shadow of the collosus, god of war.

There are some later puzzles and boss fights that are hard as fuck.

>>383860401
Nothing at all, i said it was already the perfect traditional style castlevania, so they had to go metroidvania cause it wouldn't be topped.