Go on. Name a game with better shooting mechanics. Let me count

the fireflower in super mario bros

>>383811902
Max Payne 3.

This game had like 2 good shootouts

It needed 20 or more

>>383811902
This is really strange bait

>>383812503
>>383812679
>>383812756
Absolutely retarded responses.

>you lived long enough to see people start defending The Order in any way
time to off myself

>>383811902
Killing Floor
Specialists
Gears of War 3

>>383812923
It's incredible. I don't get why you're too jaded and salty to see that. Such a fucking pleb opinion.

>>383812968
WOW

YOU

ARE

S T U P I D

>>383811902
How can a game have good shooting mechanics if it doesn't even have any gameplay?

I can't compare, anon, I don't bother playing games (let alone full priced games) that have 2-4 hours of gameplay at most.

>>383811902
Max Payne 2 and 3
Escape from Tarkov
Rainbow Six Siege
Red Dead Redemption
Metal Gear Solid V


What do I win OP?

>>383813182
Except it does. Stop memeing like a faggot shitter.

>>383813246
Six hours on Hard. Six of the best hours in gaming.

>>383813251
Did you even play 1886? Are you mentally deranged?

>>383813028
i played it since i managed to get it for less than ten pounds off a discounts shelf

it was horrible hand-holding experience with QTEs every five seconds and a third of the screen obstructed by black bars
sold it to some poor sod for 15 quid, that's the part of the game i enjoyed the most

>>383813524
Found the absolute shitter.

>>383813361
Yes I have, and it has more QTE's and cutscenes than actual gameplay. The gunplay is also mediocre at best. You aren't saying anything other they "lol you're retarded" when people name games that have better gun mechanics than this garbage. Even TloU has better gunplay than this shit does and that game isn't even very good for gunplay. Stop pretending to be fucking stupid, it's not funny.

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>>383813635
nice "game", pal

I will never agree with anyone on The Order: 1887. It is literally one of the best games ever made. Is it traditional? Fuck no. Does it delight in taking control away from the player? Absolutely. Is it anything less than a true fucking masterpiece? Don't be dumb.

>>383812923
It's just a troll.

>>383811902
>press x to shootout

how does it feel to be retarded

>>383813824

Hahahaha, is that a prima guide or something?

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Why are people suddenly praising the literal shit that was The Order? Is a new game coming and suddenly its hailed as a marvel of shooter games? It was shit at being a game, a movie and a tech demo.

>as a shooter it fails due to constant cinematic focus , QTE and "and now this is a sniping section, now this is a stealth section, and now just walk and explore from A to B section"
>as a movie it fails due to wasted potential due to a short and mediocre story filled with cliches with a shit script progression and boring as fuck characters who literally snore people to death instead of bullets
>as a literal tech demo it fails because 30 fps and the fucking motion blur which makes all look fucking disgusting

Literally fuck off OP, and have this , an actual good TPS.

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>>383813883
>It is literally one of the best games ever made.
Are sonyggȇrs so desperate to shitpost that they're going to defend this piece of shit "game"? Have you guys really sunk that low?

>>383813790
I can't say much when you have to experience it, preferably with a headset. The shooting is fucking phenomenal. Every single gun sounds powerful or otherwise as it should. The designs are amazing and unique, especially when it comes to the steampunk weaponry. Even the standard weapons are insanely cool. I'm looking at you, shotgun that fires three shots. Aiming with a scope in The Order feels better than any other game I've played.

>>383814281
>I can't say much when you have to experience
lol you're retarded

>>383813910
I'm not a fucking troll, dude. I'm a guy with his own opinions. I don't believe in shit like Metacritic. I'm not being contrarian for the sake of it, either. A lot of the games I like got great reviews.

>>383814386
Yes you are. Fuck off back to whatever shithole you came from shitposter.

>>383814242
you DO realise that people defending TO are just falseflags, right?
Not even playstation fans like the game

>>383814242
No, you're taking bait. Everyone knows it's shit. And I'm a Sonybro through and through.

>>383814214
Name a game that's got a better story and better acting. You can't because it doesn't fucking exist. Yes, The Order takes control away from the player. That doesn't mean the game doesn't bleed excellence. If you're not a shitter that needs e-celeb garbage to stay focused, it's incredible. You can clearly see how well designed the story is when you play through it multiple times. I will never ever understand why people can't see what I see. It's like I'm cursed to be completely fucking alone, even on /v/.

>>383814447
>>383814479
>>383814647
>Discussing the merits of a game on /v/ is shitposting 'cause it got bad scores.

Are you niggers serious? Fuck off and die.

>>383814809
To has no merits outside of looking pretty. It controls like shit, the gun play is shit, the dialogue is shit, the characters are shit, the mission structure is shit, the story is shit. Everything about the game is fucking dogshit outside of graphics. You can go away troll, no one believes what you're posting. I refuse to believe that anyone would actually defend a game where an entire chapter is actually just a cutscene.

>>383814687
Heavy rain

When's the sequel?

>>383814809
>merits
like what?
an incredibly short and simple story?
a staggering amount of QTEs that make Heavy Rain look like child's play?
gameplay that holds player's hand so much that you'd have to be retarded to lose?
uninspired enviroments? Bland color scheme? Boring enemies?

>>383814687
Vagrant Story has a better story, immersion, and characters and it's a PS1 game. What do I win?

literally ANY game on PC at least you can aim properly

>>383814953
Who the fuck CARES if an entire chapter is a cutscene? Not every game has to be constant gameplay. The Order is a brilliant and immersive story punctuation by moments of intense shooting. Everything except the werewolf fights are perfect. They could be better, but they're still fucking intense. Other issues include no difficulty setting above Hard and tutorial prompts you can't shut off. Other than that, the game bleeds perfection. It's only impatient, drooling retards that hate it. I'm convinced it's the faggots that play while watching shit or listening to podcasts.

>>383815267
>Who the fuck CARES if a game has no gameplay
Die.

>>383815085
It's obvious you haven't even played 1886. Nobody would say that unironically.

>>383815316
Except it does have gameplay you retarded fucking mong. It's just not constant. Kill yourself.

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>>383815459
>>383815410
>>383815267

Wolfenstein The New Order / Old Blood
Half Life 2
Quake 3

>>383815459
Timmy, Simon Says prompts are not 'gameplay'

>>383815521
Not an argument.

>>383815614
Says who? Also, there you go with the memes again. There's at least eight lengthy shooting sections. It's also the best shooting ever.

>>383815535
>Wolfenstein The New Order / Old Blood
Literally not.

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>>383813910
There probably are people on /v/ right now who unironically defend shit like The Order.

>>383815872
I'm the only one. I've been posting for the last two days while eating and doing real life shit — I won't stop till it's outta my system. This game got the shaft for literally no fucking reason.

>>383815848
Are you insinuating that the shooting mechanics are not satisfactory?

wew

>>383816036
>Are you insinuating that the shooting mechanics are not satisfactory?
Yes. It is a clunky mess.

>>383816142
prove it

>>383816215
Play the game.

>>383811902
The Order had good visuals and some fun weapons, but it was severely lacking in the gameplay department. Its a 5 hour game with maybe 2 or 3 hours or actual gameplay. The last mission was an insult to good stealth missions, and the final boss was literally a quick time event. Not to mention that its the same boss from the middle of the game. Also the story starts and ends like its in the middle of a tv season.
It could have been good, great even if they made a fully fleshed out campaign mode and maybe some multiplayer options. As it stands, it's as forgettable as can be.

>>383816405
he won't, there's too much gameplay

>>383816215
Prove it's better than The Order. You can't 'cause you haven't played both. You're just shitposting like a little bitch.

>>383811902
RE6 cover and roll mechanics are the best mechanics I have seen in a TPS

>>383816609
Excuse me? HE'S shitposting? you're the one doing nothing but autistically screeching at everyone who says TO is garbage. You've done absolutely nothing other than that despite trying to actually argue that the game has good shooting mechanics. Fuck off faggot.

Give me a single game from the past, present, and future that has better graphics than The Order.

Let me give you a hint: You cannot.

Resistance 3 has the best guns ever

>>383816609
in what way is the order shooting any different from your regular 3rd person cover based shooter?

>>383816838
The game looks great, that does not excuse its many shortcomings. Symphony of the Night also has better graphics.

>gunshot fade to black
Jeez

>>383816765
Wrong. I've defended The Order in great fucking detail. You're the faggot; read the thread.

Who was your favorite Knight?

>>383816976
Read the thread. I already explained myself.

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>press buttons during a 'cinematic' fight to let us know youre watching and paying attention! xD
>completely removes control from the player and treats them like a dumb fucking idiot
>if you remove all of the moments the game removes control from the player it amounts to an hour and a half of gameplay
>$60 USD RETAIL

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>>383811902
>dat feel when devs actively detested the fact they were making a video game and just wanted to be movie makers

>>383817153
no, you threw around buzzwords and stuff like "the guns sound great duhhh"
you didn't mention anything about the gameplay itself, which is no different from any other TPS

>>383817131
1. Grayson
2. Marquis
3. Isabeau
4. Malory

To be fair it does look better than most movie games. Not interested myself but I wonder why it got shat on by everyone ( not just /v/), including people that praise shit like heavy rain.

>>383817289
The gameplay may not be unique, but it's better than every single game I've ever played. The Order bleeds excellence.

>>383817406
People overreact and the legacy of good games sometimes suffer for it.

>>383816838
Modded GTA 4 looks better than The Order.

>>383817454
but how is it better

>>383817534
>Modded
Invalid.

>>383817454
Oh I see what's going on here. Fuck of Dana, no one gives a fuck about this shitty game in any capacity anymore.

>>383817593
Why?

This thread is useless.

"You do not like The Order!?!?!?! You're a fucking kid! hahahah"

OP you're a fucking faggot.

*leaving this thread*

>>383817574
1. The visuals and atmosphere.
2. The sound design (this is huge).
3. The way enemies react to being shot.
4. The fantastic melee executions.
5. The guns themselves are brilliant. Always satisfying. Always sound as they should. The steampunk weapons are incredibly cool. There's a large amount of guns considering they all feel fucking fantastic.

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Resident Evil 6, FEAR, Metal Gear 4 and 5, Red Dead Redemption. I can keep going.
>inb4 "you didnt play it"

>>383817809
Tell me why it's not.

>>383817715
Who the fuck is that?

>>383817984
At least you fucking played it. I can respect that 100%. I disagree, but that's fine.

If they would have advertised it as a story-driven experience or some other drivel instead of a game then it would have been okay for what it was.

As a game, it was pretty bad, though. It had a pretty mediocre story that I found enjoyable, though. Although, I watched a playthrough instead of buying it, so I might've been more miffed if I'd done that.

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>>383817997
Go away RAD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG0zJ89Fv8c

>>383817993
That's not how this works. You said modded games don't count so you have to tell me why. That's kind of how the burden of proof works.

>>383818214
>posting someone elses opinion instead of your own

>>383818272
The Order doesn't need to be modded to look good. Upon release, it is beautiful.

>>383818191
I can't like a game without being a developer? The absolute state of /v/.

>>383818214
Bet you any money this is e-celeb faggotry. It's 2017 /v/. It can't be anything else.

>>383818097
This faggot didn't even play it. His faggot cuck ass sat there and watched someone else play.

>>383817959
>1. The visuals and atmosphere.
my question was about shooting mechanics and those are not relevant to it
2. The sound design (this is huge)
my question was about shooting mechanics and this is not relevant to it.
3. The way enemies react to being shot.
they get staggered and fall over when killed? That's it.
Compare that to fucking Metal Gear Solid 2 where hitting enemies in different body parts yields different reactions and disables their ability to walk or shoot, or even have them beg for their lives
>4. The fantastic melee executions.
plenty of games have better ones
>5. The guns themselves are brilliant. Always satisfying. Always sound as they should. The steampunk weapons are incredibly cool. There's a large amount of guns considering they all feel fucking fantastic.
sure, they feel good, but i wouldn't call them exceptional or anything. Nothing in TO holds a candle to the crossbow from HL2 for instance.

>>383818428
You are clearly a shill. It's time to go.

>>383818378
it only looks good because 1/3 of the screen is hidden behind black bars so that the console has less to render

>>383818378
And this invalidates modding, how exactly? That's a terrible argument.

>>383818504
>Sound design has nothing to do with a game's shooting mechanics.

Yikes. Do you even play games? Opinion discarded.

>>383818505
I've been here since 2007. You go.

>>383811902
>Sony fans have played so few games in their lives that they think The Order is good

>>383818602
More like 1/4. The game looks better for it, so who cares? 1886 looks better than Horizon, a game released two years later. That's fucking absurd. Take 1/4 of the screen. See if I give a fuck. People say graphics don't matter, but they do. Everyone loves playing a good game with state of the art visuals. It adds to the experience.

>>383818649
sound amounts to atmosphere, but not directly to how game operates

but hey, nice job conveniently skipping through points you were unable to refute

>>383818726
You don't even own a PS4. How the GOOD FUCK did you play it? No, let me guess. You watched it on YouTube.

>>383818428
> cuck
I don't think you know what that word means

>>383818609
>how exactly?
I just explained it in the post you replied to. Read it again.

>>383818848
Play your favorite FPS on mute. See how fun it is. The sound a gun makes is everything. It's what makes a shooter great. You know that crossbow you talked about? It's good 'cause it sounds good. It's the sound it makes when the bolt flies and impales an enemy. Don't be fucking retarded.

>>383818909
Watching a person play video games is cucking yourself. End of story.

>>383818890
Not him but The Order is basically a glorified movie so I watched it on youtube so I can comment on everything outside of how the gunplay feels.

It's shit.

>>383818829
sure, it looks good, and that's exactly because it doesn't have a whole lot to render
the enviroments are tiny and there isn't much going on on the screen

besides, let's not argue about graphics if we're talking about console games, because that's a fucking joke

>>383819086
Wrong. You can't comment on anything. You're a faggot e-celeb worshiping cuck. Your video game opinions are invalid. That'll never change.

>>383819120
Name a PC game that looks better without mods. Name one.

>>383819253
I can name ten.

>>383819075
being mad all the time is really unhealthy, anon, please, think of your blood pressure

Rrly? The Order is crap. Its like watching a very bad movie

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>all these people falling for the bait

10/10 OP

>>383819323
Then do it. I won't shoot them all down if I haven't seen them in action. I'll look them up later to see if I agree. The reason The Order looks so incredible is 'cause of the reasons you described. That doesn't make it any less visually impressive.

>>383819019
while what you're saying is true, good sounding guns won't make bland shooting and hiding behind covers good

>>383819437
>Liking a game that got bad scores is bait.

Sorry you're such a cock slurping faggot. Maybe try forming your own opinions for once. I bet there's five games you think you dislike but would actually love, purely 'cause you consider the opinions of others.

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>mfw this thread
Is this your first video game, OP? I guess I can understand your point of view if you don't consume a whole lot of games/movies/etc.
Either that or you REALLY dig on steampunk.

>>383819439
>I'll look them up later to see if I agree.
now wait just a second here, wasn't your biggest argument in the thread
>YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT FUCK YOU REEEEE

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how is this thread still alive?

>>383819498
Name a game with better shooting, then. Name it and explain why. Gimmicks don't mean fuck all. All third person shooter games boil down to the same shit, and The Order does it better.

The Order was so fucking bad that the episode of Previously Recorded where they talked about it managed to be entertaining. That's how you know a game is truly shit

>>383819686
no, no, the burden of proof lies on your side
I simply asked what makes shooting mechanics better than other shooters
you have no way of knowing whether i agree or not, i just want to hear some arguments

>>383819616
I've been playing vidya since three years old. I've been on /v/ since 2007. My only crime is not considering the opinions of others. I don't watch Twitch/YouTube faggots and I don't read reviews. I played The Order and I fucking loved it. I didn't have its negative reception tainting my perspective on the game. This shit's a result of people overreacting to a game taking control away from the player. People expected different.

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OP smokin some good shit.

>>383819628
Dude. Fuck off. I haven't seen every game in motion. I'm following my own rules, dude. I don't judge shit before playing it.

>>383819918
I've explained my side. Whenever I say anything you just tell me to explain more. I think you might've missed some of my posts.

>>383819596
you can like whatever crock full of shit you want dumbass, that doesnt make a thread bait

but the fact you're providing absolutely zero arguments, inciting shallow but constant responses and negating any points against your arrogant, contrarian statement is pretty much bait evidence.

However, if you really think this way, then you have some of the worst taste in vidya the world has ever seen

>>383820138
>that doesnt make a thread bait
But it is. you sure are one dedicated shitposter.

>>383820138
What the fuck do you want me to say, man? You have to play it. I can't upload my experience to your head.

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>>383815630

>>383820306
He's not me.

op rekt

>>383814386
sure, why should we believe you?

>>383820426
he knew what he was doing

>>383812503
bingo

say what you want about the shitty style, cutscenes, writing, all of that

but that glorioius naturalmotion engine driven staggering and ragdolling, the actual projectile bullets that are all fired from the barrel of your gun, the dynamic animations for being on the ground and rotating, the destructible environments and cover, the AI that is smarter and more tactical/ dumber and more aggressive depending on who you're fighting

>>383812885
fuck off idiot

I can't honestly believe /v/ is so fucking bad now, that this extremely obvious b8 is getting so much attention, and it's not just this thread, it's so many like it. It hurts.

>>383815267
baited too hard, need to be subtle

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Reminder

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FV-u5tvQC34

>asks for games
>lists a movie

John Wick.

>>383820532
I've said enough ITT to prove I'm not a troll. I can't understand how you fucks can't believe someone's opinion can go against the grain. Yes, people say The Order is bad. I don't. Is that so fucking crazy?

>>383820138
How can you summerfags defend a 6 hour filler game like MG:R but attack a perfectly paced, all meat, no fat game like the order 1886. You experience more in the 6 hours it has than you experience in a 100 hour sandbox grind like the witcher

>>383820682
$20 says this is e-celeb faggotry. The absolute state of /v/.

>>383820628
The best part is that these threads have been getting posted every day for a little while now.

>>383814953

Not him, but the gun play is not shit. I think it's pretty good.

>>383820892
Two days, and I won't fucking stop. I gotta get this shit outta my system. I've never been this salty about a game getting shit on by everyone. It's just ridiculously undeserved. If it got a 75 or 80 we wouldn't be having the discussion. The fact that people honestly think The Order is a 6/10 game is fucking mind blowing. Just staggering.

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>>383821137
>6/10
Woah now, I wouldn't give it more than a 4.

>>383813824
>a guide for which button to press for a QTE segment
I guess they had to pad out the guide with something

>>383821775
Anyone that needs a guide for The Order should be hospitalized against his or her own will. The only excuse you have is if you're completely new to video games. There's one tricky part near the end that newfags might get stuck on.

>>383821137

I feel you anon, you are not alone in this crusade. The gunplay is good and underrated, and the graphics are it's main strength. It only needed better bosses and a real ending. As it is, it's a 7/10 to me.

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>>383821775
padded guide for the padded game

>>383822215
Thank you. Holy fuck. I've only seen like six people praise this game here. Most of it's mild praise. I just don't understand. It's gotta be impatience and a need for constant control. The Order might be the best game I've ever played. I just gotta wait and see if I feel the same in a few weeks.