I'm playing pic related and the combat system is awesome.

Yeah, there are some things in the game that you can't solve until later. It's a typical jRPG where you're supposed to check back to places and talk to NPCs every now and then as the story progresses. Except in this game you do it in two worlds.

>>383810682
>I also like having so many party characters so every one I don't like is perma canned.
o boy

The entire game is very obtuse. Its about multi-verse theory. It prides itself on being confusing to the point of pretentiousness, and that's why I love it.

>>383810965
Yeah I tried talking to people alot but everyone in the village told me to go to my grave because their dialogue hasn't changed since the start of the game. then the terminal people kept talking about vipers mansion. I guess it will get better later on. Is there a fortune teller NPC at any point that can confirm roughly where I should go?

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>>383811685
Also if you get lost in the plot, which is very easy to do, I suggest you go back and either play or watch a playthrough of the text based adventure that CC is a "remake" of but feels more like a sequel to at times, "Radical Dreamers: The Jewel that Could not be Stolen".

It breaks down a lot of plot elements and explicitly tells you the primary theme of both games that is somewhat easy to miss if you just play Cross.

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posting best girl

>>383810682
I played through the entire game with no guide when I was like 9 years old, so I think you might just be retarded.

>>383812180
yeah I plan on playing that at some point but the story isn't the thing that's fucking with me. If you go to hydra marsh in the other world they REALLY try to convince you that you are doing the right thing and they give you the safety gear to get farther in. The guy says you're right on track and just need to find a way to deal with the plants.

>>383810682
Anon, just wait till you see what's inside that crater full of fog on the world map. One of my favorite segments in gaming history

>>383812635
honestly if I was 9 I would have had an easier time of it. I wouldn't have spoken to those jackass NPCs that pointed me in the wrong direction and I wouldn't have felt as frustrated with wasting an hour on a futile puzzle because I could spend all day playing it.

>>383812635
that's not the point, you can actually beat the game without get the game mechanics, but you can't enjoy it the same way because the devs don't include a good tutotial.

>>383813314
Finding time for rpgs is really hard now. I feel that :l

So, when are we getting that Chrono mobile game?

>>383813581
Yeah I spent alot of time this week binging on strange journey, parasite eve, smt 2, and now I'm on chrono cross. I'm unbelievably behind work now so it's no more games until the end of the month. It's gonna be tough but I played way more games this week than I did all last summer so it was worth it.

>>383815048
There is criminally little official art of this game

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>>383815128

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>>383815309

>>383815128
>>383815128
It is the fate of all bad games only appreciated by a few contrarians, anon.

>>383815681
>I don't like it
>therefore it's bad
Go shitpost in some other thread

This is probably my favorite rpg of all time. What are some of your favorite sections of the game? I always loved the view at sky dragon isle, the music on every world map, and the super somber feeling of the dead sea

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>>383815647

>>383815681
I don't really care about the game, I just think some of the designs are appealing so I want more art of it. What's wrong with that?

>>383810682
>I find it really annoying though that the game refuses to tell you anything useful at all, i had to watch a tutorial on youtube to learn how the combat system works because I spent the first 3 hours not knowing I could cast level 2 spells when I'm set to lvl 3 or more.

People like you worry me, anon.

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*blocks your path*

>>383814360
>dat feel when Squaresoft could do no wrong back on PS1

>>383815996
That music was really pretty.

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>>383811839
It's not really that the game is really complex or free in its approach, it's just there's a decent number of side content that can fool you into thinking you're progressing the main story.

>>383815996
God damn that fight was hard

>>383812180
Damn, didn't know about this game. Imma have to play it now

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>>383816178
it's a bitch because any sensible person has harley in his group to try her out aka you have two black innates against a white innate boss. you also need to be aware of how the field effect works at that point.

>>383816176
>waaaah too much content!

What did cuckolds mean by this?

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>>383812476

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>>383810682
It's dimension hopping shenanigans, so yes.

>>383816282
>any sensible person has harley in his group to try her out
>to try her out
Nobody puts her in their party for gameplay reasons, anon

>>383815883
Truthfully I was hardly using any elements at all expecting the game to explain it when they were necessary. Then my whole team died in a boss fight where I was just using melee attacks and realized there wasn't going to be a tutorial.

it also doesn't help that when an enemy interrupts your attack it does it a half second after when you are choosing the next attack. I thought that it was all time based like chrono trigger and I could attack more if I just hammered the X button.

It's all stuff I would have eventually learned when I started experimenting but most RPGs explain the turn based system to death so when a new combat system showed up I expected it to be explained to death so I waited.

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>>383817291
Doesn't Radius teach you how to fight in the beginning of the game?

>>383816007
It was nice when they were experimenting. They tried to combine chrono trigger and resident evil in parasite eve and it was ok. I could never get into final fantasy games past 6 because all of their other RPGs were trying to branch out while not hurting their loyal fans, final fantasy 15 is a trash rpg but you can still cast blizzaga and other stuff so it's final fantasy. FF17 will probably just be a FPS but the protagonist will have shitty hair

>>383817909
I had to google him. I was never told to seek him out so i must have missed it. I'll have to go back and see if I can find him because I don't know where he is in the village.

>>383818404
He's to the left of the village. I think there are even some people that show you what a save point looks like.

>>383818676
yeah I thought that was an exit so i didn't try it out, other than that I spoke to everyone I found. I did find it annoying having to save in the overworld until I found the crystal in termina inn

>>383816304
>not even a complaint, just an observation
>LOL WHAT DID HE MEME BY THIS??!! XD KEK!!! LOLOL

please fuck off and die.

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>>383815647
>>383815794
This is my favorite design of Kid

>>383816007
how about they cutting Xenogears and Cross budget because of "muh FF"?

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A game doomed from the very start. The dream team had no influence, Kato didn't even want to make this shit, and square gave it too little budget becuase "LOL final fantasy".

It's a interesting game but I don't know if I would say good. Battles are tedious and often pointless, the story is confusing and feels incomplete, and the game lacks proper pacing and feels disjointed. Add to that that it was expected to live up to it's universally loved prequel AND it kind of shits on it a bit by basically telling you everyone in CT died. It does look great and have maybe the greatest soundtrack ever made for a videogame but even that can't save that. It's a interesting but ultimately dissapointing game.
>>383821460
Which is even funnier considering both VIII and IX, though to a lesser extent, were disappointing.

>>383821460
it's better than what they are doing now, there were so many one offs where they tried new things.

>>383821460
Priorities. Dick move, but Final Fantasy clearly had precedence over a new IP that may or may not bust.

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>>383822296
I think increase of budgets and sales not really following the follow suit undid JRPGs. It doesn't help JRPG developers put all their eggs into one basket as a result of this which meant only the really profitable big franchises survived. Shit, Capcom and Konami combined hold a ton of JRPGs between them that will never see the light of day again.

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You guys ever think SE will be desperate enough to do another chrono game? I'm kind of surprised they haven't, they sold their souls years ago.

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>>383816326
>>383812476
>>383816282
>>383815996

Lemme just...

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>>383822645
>Capcom and Konami combined hold a ton of JRPGs between them that will never see the light of day again
Don't remind me anon.

>>383822714
It will be a mobile game with gacha system

>>383822714
if they are desperate for money the last thing they would do is release a new jrpg. I don't have any stats on sales but I feel like tomb raider is their easiest way to make sales, it's so souless and easy to sell. my roommate loves walking around with detective vision in games and I don't get it.

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>>383822973
Problem is that SE has clearly lost the plot and relies on AAA successes so FF15 was really important to them after FF13 trilogy turned otut he way it did. I remember they were blown away when Bravely Default did well because they didn't expect it to.

>>383823292
Which is hilarious since BD wasn't even that amazing and still was a bit of a lazy effort. Maybe BS fixed that though, didn't even check that one out.

>>383823292
>>383823421
I never ended up picking that up, the class system is always a draw in an rpg but I couldn't bring myself to pay for such a lifeless looking game. I'm hopeful for octopath traveller but i'm not paying full price.

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>>383822714
>no radical dreamers characters
I mean, they are there...and at the same time they are not.

>>383816176
>dat feel when some JRPGs were literally so convoluted just so you would end up buying a strategy guide for it

I think Valkyrie Profile was one of the more widely known examples of this with its endings and shit.

>>383815996
[holy light trap]

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>>383823807
I think people kind of want to forget about RD.

I remember when reading when Masato Kato (guy who wrote for all the chrono games) originally wrote radical dreamers he had absolutely no desire to even make it connect to chrono trigger and square basically just told him to shoe horn in the connections last minute. I guess when writing chrono cross he just said "well I did that thing a few years ago, might as well just use that". What's also interesting is that it appears he used some ideas from the nes ninja gaiden games, those he had also written for.

>>383815996
I didn't find this guy that tough but I also don't think I used harle.

>There are people that didn't recruit the dog or childhood friend.

I just love that there's absolutely zero grind in this game at all, even for the secret bosses

>>383824909
>the only other person to ever experience interdimensional travel for the very first time is...
>... the pink giant talking dog that you bribe to help you.

I love Chrono Cross.

>>383810682
Its an ok 7/10 game with the worst last boss fight ever created in the whole history of mankind.

Its a pretty shitty Chrono title though.

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>>383825335

I enjoyed it a thousand times more than I did Trigger by all means, so meh. Disagree.

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>>383822767
Pls no bully

>>383815794
I cant be the only one who thinks the faces in this game look really derpy

>>383810682
Game is disappointing coming from the first game.

>>383825729
it's definately has its appeal. Both games are pretty amazing JRPGs but it never should have been a chrono game. It tries it's hardest to say that it is not a chrono trigger sequel while being shoehorned into the same world. plus the combat system is so different and fun that it could have stood as its own ip.

>>383829759
I played CT first and I didn't think it was amazing like everyone says

I didn't like cross either, but I didn't hate it like hardcore CT fags do cause I never cared much for the first game in the first place

I played this game back when i was 20 or something, very fond memories.
I especially loved the setting and atmosphere. Traveling through all those tropical islands, with so many characters was something i really appreciated in the game.
I definitely can see all its flaws now, but then again, when you are a teen you tend not to notice them so much

>>383810682
It's one of my favorite jrpgs from that era and I always hated CT faggots talking shit when it's clearly a fucking awesome game, just not the sequel they wanted. Fuckin crybabies.

Anyway, I loved the combat too OP, and it was nice having a large pool of characters - though towards end game I always found myself using characters that unlocked triple techs because why wouldn't you, plus they're some of the best characters anyway. Loved how beautiful the world was and all the different environments as well. There's also tons of unlockables and secrets packed in the game.

CC came out in a time when Squaresoft was at its prime, and it definitely shows. Simply a solid, well made game that's still talked about and played today.

>>383830061
you don't have to love the first game to realize that when they killed off all of the old characters, switched off of time travel, and created a new map that shares almost nothing with the old one it was a sequel that the developers didn't want to make.

I can see not thinking either was amazing, the series is like the Full Metal Alchemist of JRPGs. It's a starting point for everyone and some move to series that better suit their tastes while most normies stop there so the best JRPG they've played is also the only one they played.

One of my favourite soundtracks in all of videogames. Has a really nostalgic vibe.

>>383816178
Yeah and not to mention he doesn't even look badass at all. Opposite really.

It may just be how games were made back then as opposed to now, but with games from that era you are literally supposed to check literally everything and talk to everyone, do random shit in random locations that are uncalled for. Final Fantasy VII is the perfect example of this, with many of the rare materia requiring you to do totally random things like play the piano in Tifa's room. Nobody tells you to walk up to the piano and play it, and nobody tells you what song to play.

Kids are better at finding this stuff than adults because kids will spend all day just dicking off in the game clicking on everything, whereas adults are always trying to figure out how to beat the game.

>>383830061
While I think CT is still really good today, it's hard to convey how mindblowing it was at release. It does so much shit that hadn't been done before, and seem so simple now that it's hard to even imagine a time when they weren't a thing. And it nailed pretty much everything.

For a comparison, the pinnacle of SNES JRPGs and CT's contemporary was FF6. A game where party members still lined up, took a step forward and swiped the air. Enemy animation was just the whole sprite shaking. A game that didn't even have a run button until later remakes.

>>383830641
>you don't have to love the first game
Of course you don't, but I think you have to love CT to actually be butthurt about the changes

>It's a starting point for everyone and some move to series that better suit their tastes while most normies stop there so the best JRPG they've played is also the only one they played

Yeah, I think the reason I wasn't too impressed by CT is because it was not something I played as a kid, but rather as an adult after I had already played and experienced plenty of JRPGs before it

Is there any chance of ever seeing this game on Steam? Square-Enix has been releasing a bunch of their old PS1 stuff in recent years, like the FF games.

>>383830787
It has depressing and baby sounding music all through out. I'd hardly call it great.

>>383831129
I feel the same way now with CT, I like the music and characters but the combat is very basic. Before playing CT though I only had the tales games so I didn't expect technical depth from a JRPG. I'm excited for Chrono Cross though because I can see playing through it with challenge runs like each character can only equip one element type at a time.

not as an angry response or anything but what would you say is your favourite JRPG? I wanted to get a few solid recommendations from this thread for when I'm done chrono cross and I'm finding youtube's top 10 videos to be filled with nostalgia crap.

please don't say anything final fantasy.

>tfw the only reason I want this game remade is for the potential doujins

>>383833076
I don't know, CT in general has little porn. A pretty good artist by the name of polyle did a pic of Kid a few months ago, probably the best CC porn pic to date honestly.

>>383833613
>I don't know, CT in general has little porn
Well that's because it's also an old game, the doujin market wasn't nearly as big as it is today back when these games were released

>A pretty good artist by the name of polyle did a pic of Kid a few months ago
Yeah I've seen it but Kid isn't my favorite girl from this game, honestly and that doujin where she gets gangraped by soldiers is hard to top

>>383818404
>I was never told to seek him out so i must have missed it.

Is this your first RPG?
NPCs not telling you some stuff doesn't mean you shouldn't involve yourself in them.

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>>383810682
>I spent the first 3 hours not knowing I could cast level 2 spells when I'm set to lvl 3 or more.

wooooooow maybe pay attention to the tutorial next time, turbocuck

>>383834440
I said in >>383818943 that I thought the area to the left where he is was an exit. Nobody mentioned the chief to me so that area to the left was empty void as far as i knew. Plus this is the only JRPG I can think of that made it's tutorial optional without having a main quest say "want me to teach you this?".

>>383834113
I think CT almost just has a "purity" to it I guess, kind of like yotsuba. Compare it to FFVII, both are popular as fuck but FFVII has a million doujins while CT has only like a handful.
>Kid isn't my favorite girl from this game, honestly
Who? Leena or Harle? Marcy?

>>383835160
see >>383835215
at least now I know about him for when I recruit him later

>>383835358
>Compare it to FFVII, both are popular as fuck but FFVII has a million doujins while CT has only like a handful
Because it's Final Fantasy, and FFVII kept getting more stuff released like movies and the characters kept appearing in other things beyond just the first game
>Who? Leena or Harle? Marcy?
Yes

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>>383835358
>I think CT almost just has a "purity" to it I guess

You've been looking in the wrong places

>>383835805
>Because it's Final Fantasy, and FFVII kept getting more stuff released like movies and the characters kept appearing in other things beyond just the first game
Fair point.
>Yes
Are you the harlefag? Just curious. I always quite liked Leena, sucks the game kind of makes you choose between her and Kid and Kid is just the obviously better character in combat.

>>383836025
Well I know everything has some porn, it's not like I'm a complete idiot, I just think that for how famous it is it's interesting how little of it seems to exist.

>>383815756
What is the one song in that castle? The music always stuck with me but I can never remember the name of the song since it has been so long since I played it.

>>383836071
I don't know who I am

I'm glad you're enjoying it OP, but I genuinely thought the battle system was the wort part about it and it kind of turned me off of the game. Probably because I broke it very early on and it became more tedious than entertaining. Eagle Eye and the one element that half all element damage. You just wreck everything with attacks and nothing can really hurt you back

I also disliked the concept of quantity>quality for the cast

>>383815756
>>383836254
Here is the song I was talking about. Most memorable tune in the game to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5-lvESbMU

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I have to say, it has a dissapointing as fuck ending.
>Surge forgot his entire adventure
>Kid fuses with Schala and gets trapped in the real world
I do like endings where you see how the events of the game have effected the world but I just feel like it's both that they needed more money and kind of a fuck you.

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>>383813314
this, when you're 9 years old and have all the time in the world to progress in your game it doesn't feel so bad to bang your head against the wall and go around in circles before finally progressing. In fact it actually feels like a reward when you're young and dumb. As an adult it just feels like a waste of time and "I cant believe I had to go through all that SHIT just to move on"

>>383837268
I think the non-canon endings, which you get by doing NG+ are much better

At least, they're funny

>>383812635
>>383813314
>>383837390
THIS!

This is why Final Fantasy games these days have a speed up button whenever there is a re-release. JRPG's were always made to be ridiculous like this when they never had to be.

>>383830969
I'm glad there are people like you still on this board. Thanks for not being a shitposter.

>>383838221
This whole tread is pretty impressive. There's only been like 3 replies that weren't constructive in some way.

>>383839450
Probably because of the OP, he never meant this to be the typical CT vs CC shitflinging

He just wanted help playing the game

>>383810682
The game can be somewhat cryptic sometimes on where to go. Maybe it's that we're used to being pointed in the right direction all the time nowedays in most RPGs, save some exceptions. Just talk to NPCs, pay attention to the plot and explore and you'll fin the way.

Enjoy the OST! One of the best out there, except the normal battle music which is awful.