Discuss the greatest rpg of all time. S > K > P > C

That's not Wizardry

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No, let's discuss these instead. 3 is best.

>>383792341
Good game. Not as goods as 7 but comfier.

AHH HAA

>druid promotion quests
What were they thinking?!

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>>383792671

https://a.pomf.cat/egyfsq.webm

>>383792341
>Members only.

I enjoyed 8, despite it being an unfinished mess.

Are these games easy to get into even if you've never played them, and you're a faggot who generally doesn't play much stuff from before the 00's?

Playing 7 now. I fell for the druid meme. I just wanted GM alchemy and black potions so much.
Didn't expect that 1: they are so easy to buy, 2: you have to go through that ridiculous tunnel to Eofol for the druid promotion.
And I guess 3: that stats are almost worthless above 30.

Playing as CDSS. If I ever do a second playthrough, I will probably play something like CKSS.

>>383793037
Start with 6. It's real time, has 3d movement and free camera like any modern first person RPG. The combat system takes a bit to get used to, but overall it's probably the most accessible RPG of this genre. Give everyone bows to make the early game more bearable.

MM 3 and 4+5 are the other games worth playing besides 6-8, but they are tile based, fully turn based and you can only turn the camera 90 degrees. They are great, but requires a lot more patience and harder to get used to.

>>383792341
what the fuck does this mean
>S > K > P > C > A >>>>> D
also should I play this game or other in the series if im new into dungeon crawlers?

>>383792458
Why do people hate IV? I loved it, but III is still better.
Also, are any of 3D HoMMs any good?

>>383793008
I know that feel.

>>383793037
>>383793589
Might and Magic were literally designed to be beginner dungeon crawlers in a sea of games trying to one up wizardry. So yes, they're pretty playable even by today's standards.

>>383793749
I think the general consensus these days is that IV was good, but flawed and unfinished. V is pretty good, but its main problem is that it's painfully slow. Just waiting for the cpu to do its turn is soul crushing. Avoid VI like the plague. No idea about VII since I've never played it.

>>383793749
HOMM 5 is the second best game behind 3. HOMM 6 is okay, but it doesn't live up to the series' legendary name. HOMM 7 is hot garbage and you should avoid it at all costs.

>>383793210
>I just wanted GM alchemy and black potions so much.

You got meme'd hard, my friend.

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>>383793989
Thanks. Does V have hot-seat mode?

>>383793521
>>383793037
It's a good idea to still play MM6/7/8 in Turn Based Mode for combat.

>go get resurrected at an evil temple
>my character is now a zombie
Nice touch.

>>383794097
yes

>>383793589
Those are the playable classes

>>383793008
>>383793783
Same

Garrote Gorge region was the GOAT

>>383793589
Classes

Sorcerer, Knight, Paladin, Cleric, Archer, Druid

>>383792602

>not as good as 7

Blood and Honor had better balance fixes between classes but inevitably was worse due to shorter playtime because of the alignment shifts and a worse endgame. Still good though and mile better than 8 and 9. Though 8 is still playable even with the revolving door party members.

>>383794117
Or you can constantly switch between both to abuse them. Might and Magic games are pretty easy to break.

>>383792458
Too bad Homm isnt an rpg while Might and Magic is

>>383793008

>Regnan Pirates built up as big bad legends throughout series
>end up massive pushovers

>>383793210

you still had to go through some shit to upgrade your wizard and master water magic.

>>383794196
I think my perfect Might and Magic would be some unholy mix of 6 and 7 with a tiny bit of 10/Grimrock in there. Pick your poison on graphics as I still think 6/7/8 hold up.

Maybe a dash of MM 5 if you want.

>>383793989

>avoid VI

fucking why? it's generally regarded as the best in the series.

>>383794196
MM7 was nice since it felt like it was part of HoMM. I like MM8 more than 6 because of the nice oddball class/races. MM6 is a fun game due to its impressive scale, but I always felt that the character creation options and the world itself was less interesting than the goofy theme park-esque worlds of MM7 & 8, which feels in line with the spinoff series.

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>>383792810
This reminds me of when I was young and when videogames were interesting and I wasn't a cynical shit.

Thank you my friend

>>383794426
HoMM VI, not MMVI.

>>383793521
>>383793926
>>383794117
Thanks, will give it a try. Grew up playing the Heroes part of M&M, will be interesting to see the lore from another perspective.

>>383794487
The lore feeds into the HOMM series

Sort of like HoMM 2 > MM 6 > HoMM 3/MM7>MM8>HoMM Chronicles>HoMM4

>>383794259
This is true; either way I'd avoid playing full real time due to some of the horrific things that can happen.

Anything that causes Death/Petrify for instance.

>>383793749
I kind of loved IV, but honestly I think a lot of it just has to do with how ugly it is. Much of the charm with the series was in the designs. The transition to full 3D did not go terribly well, so many fuck ugly unit models, and stiff animations. Soundtrack was still terrific, even though it used a lot of sample tracks.

>>383794361
Nighon tunnels and Eofol tunnels aren't even comparable. Getting your master water magic is a cakewalk, especially if you have invisibility, but even without. In the Eofol tunnels you have ancient fucking behemoths blocking the tunnel, even if you have invis it will break if you touch them, you have to do a crazy amount of save scumming if you don't want to fight them.

is there any way to play mm7 at 1080p?

The resolution mods seem to break the game's graphics in some way.

>>383794487
Make sure to get the grayface patch for MM6-8. The gog version might include it, don't remember.

>>383794835
>Preserve theme

So should I just try to play through every game in the series or are there only a few worth the time/effort?

>>383794958
I play it in windowed and lower my desktop resolution to 720p. Works perfectly without making the UI ridiculously small.

>>383794481
Fuck me, the ones being released post 2010, which are good?

>>383795149
6-8, 4+5 and 3 are the ones worth playing from the classic games. 6-8 is basically a trilogy, 4+5 were combined into one massive game. 3 uses the same engine as 4+5.

Also 10, which came out a few years ago but is a low budget game that isn't anywhere near the scale of the original games, but still worth a playthrough.

9 is super buggy and unfinished, only play it if you don't have anything better to play.
1-2 didn't age too well.

MM series always had the worst rule systems ever to grace an RPG, yet they were still incredibly fun games to play.

>>383795723
The spells are fun. And the game just feels comfy. Feels good going back to the towns after some crawlan'

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>>383793749
IV had great ideas, but they were poorly executed.

Heroes finally taking an active part to the combat instead of just being stat sticks for their army was a pretty cool addition.

The class system had a lot of potential but it was half baked and ended being completely imbalanced.

Getting rid of creature upgrades wasn't a bad thing because they didn't serve much purpose, and having to chose between generators forced players to use their brain a bit more.
But because of the latter, they had to switch the cities' artstyle from pre-rendered backgrounds to low quality 3d models and it looked kinda bad.

The campaigns and the music are also top notch.

The game is actually not bad at all but it was rushed and unfinished. It's commonly hated because it departed a lot from the previous games when the fanbase wanted a HOMM3++.

>>383795543
Which version should I play for 3-5?
I see GOG has one called 6-pack limited edition but it seems pretty expensive for what it is and the game looks really ugly, especially the awful character portraits.

Why is mm7 stuck at like 20 fps?

>>383796593
do you use OpenGL or software rendering?

>>383796739
It's using whatever the grayface and resolution patches set it to.

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>>383796835
I have it like this and it's silky smooth 9999 fps. I had a problem when it was hardware accelerated though.

>>383797023
I think setting it to windowed mode makes it run like poop.

>>383797180
Grayface patch actually should fix that, and the annoying "pls set to 16bit color thx" thing.