Alright /v/, lets see what we really think about Net Neutral

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>>383769709
>wanting to give the government control of the internet

>>383769709
I don't understand the people that are anti-NN. You would prefer your ISP decides what you can and can't see?

I know Title II isn't perfect, but come on, it's better than allowing ISPs to block whatever website they wish because "lol it's our wire"

>>383769846
but it is their wire

>>383769843
>Not understand that this is just keeping the rules that are already in place, in place.
>Not understanding that these rules have been in place for years and nothing bad has happened.
>being literally unintelligent

>>383769709
i want russia and china to nuke the USA

>>383769843

>wanting to get cucked by comcast

>>383769903
This is the fastest mentality to destroy the internet as it is, the last bastion of freedom.
If you want television and to never have access to 4chan or any site like this, then by all means.

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>>383769843
>Wanting to give the ISPs power to shaft us even harder than they already are

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>>383769709
>thread is 5 minutes old
>poll already has 60+ votes
what the literal fuck
who's botting?

>>383769975
Why the hell would any ISP block 4chan?

>>383769843
>>383769903


Anyone who is against net neutrality: I hope you enjoy not posting on 4chan because this website will certainly be blocked.

"We decided to decrease all speeds to the website 4chan.org indefinitely due to it's reputation of hosting child pornography and hacker groups"

>Reddit is Pro Net Neutrality
Fuck no. I'm Anti then.

>>383770036
>Why the hell would any ISP block the most popular white nationalist antisemitic site in the world

wew lad

>>383769846
Cause Republican adminstration told them it's good for them. Fake news! Look it up. The majority of Republicans are against NN.

>>383770020
It was posted in the massive Net Neutrality thread first.

>>383770083
Great job forming a well-informed opinion on a topic that's actually important.

>>383770075
>>383770119
You realize you can just get another ISP if you don't like how yours works, right?

>>383770083
>/pol/ptg/ is Pro Net Neutrality
oh no they're anti

>>383769843
It will kill piracy, so im ok with it

>>383770119
>wew lad
Here we go ladies and gentlemen, first redditor of this thread. You know they'll be lurking in here.

Remove NN.

>>383770083
Reddit is also pro-breathing, maybe you should take an anti-breathing because Redditors like breathing.

>>383770212
In most of America, you actually can't.
Unless you want fucking dial up.
You're uninformed.

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>>383770212
Ahahahahahahahahaha ;_;

>>383770212
>You realize you can just get another ISP
30% of american cannot, local monopolies are everywhere

>>383770251
not an argument

>>383770271
reddit is pro-breathing on cocks though

>>383770075

Good, I want off this ride.

>>383770020
don't need to post why I'm pro net neutrality, it's the only logical choice, if anything those 10 or so retards need to explain themselves

>>383770265
Remove yourself shill.

>>383769843
You're not giving anything to the government. Discarding net neutrality doesn't remove any kind of power the government have over the internet.

Why the fuck would you think this. What the fuck do you think this is. I'm genuinely intrigued.

>>383770212
You realize that this is not an option for 80% of the US population due how those companies pretty much control the whole shit right?

This is the biggest internet issue that have to be solved in america, but giving Verizon/AT&T even more power its not a good idea.

/v/ is republican to the max, so you should know that they'd want anal from comcast

They'll literally take every dick in the ass imaginable just so they can say SALTY LIBKEKS

>>383770212
Nope. ATAT has completely monopolized my area. They have a lot of our politicians by the balls. It's sad.

>>383770212
except when ALL of them are allowed to get away with it and will if given the opportunity.

>>383770380
t. Assblasted

>>383770327
NN is not a shill thought. NN did nothing for us.

>>383770212
No, no you can't. Anyone in the USA will tell you that you moron. Good God at least learn to shill properly

>>383770292
>>383770279
>citation needed

>>383770416
and there you have it

>>383770486
https://www.extremetech.com/internet/178465-woe-is-isp-30-of-americans-cant-choose-their-service-provider

>>383770271
>take an anti-breathing
Redditor please work on your replies, mkay sweetie?

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why is reddit/facebook/google (basically all the biggest kike corporations) pro net neutrality? this is only making me lean towards anti-NN

>>383769709
>23 anti

I am too horrified to believe that there are actually that many people that want the government to control what they can see, so I am just going to assume its one guy from some shithole using 22 bots.

Capitalism ruined everything
Fighting over net neutrality is like trying to keep a dead horse from being beaten for the 97th time

>>383769903
>power company limits the amount of electricity your house gets per month unless you pay them an extra $50
>call bullshit
>"lol its our wire, don't like it get power from someone else OH WAIT YOU CAN'T MOTHERFUCKER"

>>383770531
He's right tho, senpai

>>383770423
How many rupees are they paying you Pajeet? I hear if you learn a little more English they will give your family their own sidewalk to shit on.

>>383770486
Many apartment complexes make deals with isps to only allow their service there. Also, many neighborhoods do this as well through their HOA.
Source: I have never lived in one place for more than 2 years

>>383770574
That, or 23 trolls.

>>383769709
anyone sane is pro-net neutrality, unless they happen to be a head honcho at verizon, AT&T, or comcast. if you aren't one of those and are somehow anti-net neutrality, you need to rethink your life.

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>>383770574
Never underestimate the Jew's ability to play both sides of the Goyim.

Really amusing to see that /pol/ is now used as a weapon of the Jews to give more power to Israel to control and throttle (((problematic))) and (((antisemitic))) content that they want shut down just because MUHGODEMPEROR

>>383770616
Samefag

>>383770574
They are mostly alt-righters. The majority who oppose NN are Republican. Look it up. Fucking disgraceful, but at least they're pissing off dem lebruls.

>>383770639
look you little rat, when NN became a thing, I was one of the people that went

"Oh this is cool. Oh wait, no it isnt, because Im still stuck with the same provider who is charging me an arm and a leg for shitty downtime on my internet."

NN hasnt stopped the jewry, if thats what you're thinking. Cable companies are already throttling us. NN at least unplugs the government's involvement so now the cable companies have no excuse as to why they are upping our prices.

>/pol/ is willing to drop their extremist point of view that has spanned several years and caused so much shit at the drop of a hat just because it's something Trump wants
I have just realized that /pol/ is the aggessor and the victim of the election, reduced to Funnyjunk tier arguments and saying nigger because it's 2011 and it's funny

>>383770560
Anon think. What are the corporations you're talking about selling.

>>383770560
Because they will get fucked by the lack of it as well.
It's a game of "everyone but comcast/AT&T and verizon loses."

>>383769709
Net neutrality needs to end because it will finally kill the internet and then maybe we can be free from this torment.

>>383770576
Nigga what the fuck dream world alternative are you smoking? You work with the system in place to make it better. Sometimes its easy sometimes its difficult but you don't give up and start screaming "revolution!" when things don't go your way.

>>383770083
If Reddit said that they would never jump off a bridge because it would make them look uncool, would you jump off said bridge to prove how much you hate them? How contrarian does the rabbit hole go?

>>383770659
for real? thats illegal here
>my shitty third world country is more flexible that the land of the (((((free))))) and has NN
fuck it, I'm staying here, and just in case
FUCK OFF WE ARE FULL

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>>383769709
>this thread

>>383770775
>republicans being all for things that are directly detrimental to everyone for the sake of being opposed to the left

in other news, water is wet

>>383770574
/pol/acks believe NN is actually preventing kind hearted companies from providing you even FASTER internet.

That Milo faggot took all the followers from GamerGate and converted them into anti-NN idiots.

>>383770451
but thats how it works in any decent country, obviously USA isnt one :)

>>383770751
Exactly. It's amazing just how black and white this issue is. It's us vs the ISPs.

>>383770212
No you fucking cant, at least a lot of us can't. I live in a small town in the cornfields of Illinois and the only ISP that services this whole town is At&t. The highest speed I can get without paying out the ass even more than I already do is 12 mbps. This is some of the shittiest internet I've ever had, constant dropouts that go minutes before I can reconnect, slow speeds, horrible customer service who's sent a guy out on 3 separate occasions to fix the same fucking thing that they supposedly fixed last time, all tied together with outrageous monthly fees. No other ISP covers this area, so I'm stuck with this unless I'd rather have even shittier satellite internet

>>383770560

meanwhile comcast owns NBC and is owned by a jew

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>>383769903
Let's build an highway and we don't let anybody going faster than 25mp/h 30km/h

>>383770576
>Capitalism ruined everything
You got that right to be quite honest with you family.
I'm not saying communism is good, because it's not, but neither is capitalism.

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post yfw you're not American

>>383770879
You can crash on the moon if you want.

>>383769912
>Not understand that this is just keeping the rules that are already in place, in place.

Why would they need to do anything if the rules are already in place?

What's threatening the current rules?

>>383770908
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean...

>>383770981
so it doesn't matter in the end, either side is getting jew'd

>>383770856
I'd never do it because then I wouldn't be able to post along with such brilliant posters itt

>>383770997
that's a strange face

>>383770212
theres literally just comcast where i live since they own all the infrastructure
but i know this is just bait and you are going to say shit like
>just move lol

>>383770781
Dude try to understand the issue before posting. Net Neutrality deals with specific jewry. It's not an end all beat all law that was made to "fix" the internet. Net Neutrality works for the limited things it was meant to handle, so being against it because ISPs still suck dick makes no sense.

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>All these Nu/pol/ faggots Circlejerking Trump, and thinking that giving Isp's the ability to do whatever they want will end well
Maybe we should kill off the internet, just look at how much of a fucking mess it is.

>>383770879
It's illegal here too, but it's you versus 12 high paid laywers.

>>383770939
Agreed, but that's not really the point.

>>383770659
Just how cancerous do homeowners associations have to get before they're banned? Jesus fuck.

I'm going to be honest. I want net neutrality to go just to see all the liberal tears that will flow after.

>>383770847
>start screaming "revolution!" when things don't go your way.
Except that's exactly how it happens. And that's why communism failed in the soviet union. People need to be fed up with capitalism first, it's part of the evolution of the social system

>>383771108
You got to listen to that Indian guy to believe it.

In the defense of attacking NN he brings up free speech somehow - trying to tap into whatever the fuck is happening on campuses.

>>383771152
the place where you can see it will be banned :^)

>>383771016
Because Isp's want to get rid of net neutrality. It exist to keep companies like Comcast from running rampant, and squeezing you for all your money.

>>383771110
The fact that rich people/corporations can get away with literally illegal shit just because they can afford lawyers is one of the most disgraceful things about the USA, and hell, most other "developed" countries.

>>383771104
>trivializing important issues

this isn't a "side vs side" deal, it's more like being "pro-ending world hunger"

>>383770971
topkek
the big U, S and A

meanwhile i live in the a literallywho small town in the middle of nowhere in hungary and there are like 5 competing companies and you can get 120mbps for like $20
buddy in the city near us gets 500mbps for the same price

>>383771227
>Implying fox news will be banned
I'm fully expecting them to show a 24/7 stream of liberals crying in the streets just like that one chick that was screaming when Trump was elected.
God that was amazing

>>383770083
>Reddit is pro cock sucking?
Well there goes my favourite pastime

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>>383769709
Anyone who's anti Net Neutrality are just evil
people. That's a fact.

Look at the people supporting Net Neutrality:
Facebook
Google
Reddit
Netflix
Twitter
Amazon

and more.

We are the good guys, we are the rebels fighting against the evil empire and we will win!

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what's the best way to damage internet lines?

>>383771104
>I remember when degenerate Pro-Skub faggots were infesting whole boards
I'm glad we kicked those fucks off our nipponese crayondrawing claysculptureboard.

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>>383770212
>handful of internet companies provide vast majority of broadband internet through USA
>all of them already price fix and even go so far as to coordinate their prices per region so individuals can only save miniscule amounts of money on their contracts compared to the competition
>also most of them use contracts and have millennial targeted non-contract brands under them, so they get money anyway
>you want to give these people who you don't vote for, control over what you can access online

You can't even vote with your dollar. That idea has become so rare that essentially, you can only vote for what kinds of burgers you want with that dollar. That concept is long gone within the realm of capitalism.

>>383771293
How far are you guys willing to go to piss of liberals?

>>383771152
>I just want to watch the world burn
You need to be 18 to browse 4chan

>>383771075
It's not wholely his fault. It's a pretty simple concept that politicians have of course made infinitely more complicated through doublespeak and soundbytes.

>>383771108
Men have felt the same way about society and the human race. And they were all right.

>>383771075
I know what NN deal with, which is why I said it getting removed doesnt hurt anyone but the top companies

>>383771209
>See the outcome of 99% of revolutions
Buddy, I'm not looking to die fighting over scraps of rat meat any time soon, and I'll bet neither are you.

>>383771304
>don't look at arguments
>don't look at details
>Look at what's Jewish

Yes that's brilliant MY PEDE. #MAGA

>>383771130
I've been under good ones before that make people actually cut their lawns and clean up their shit. It's when pam down the street fucks everything up by getting a power trip.

>>383771229
It's a shitty mentality where the government thinks companies are people. Or, they just get paid to not give a shit about the people they represent like in America's case.

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>>383770751

That or you don't trust the FCC to control the internet.

A simple law that requires ISPs to provide equal service to all customers and websites was all that was needed and is widely supported by both political parties.

But that's not what Obama did. Obama drastically expanded the powers of the FCC in a possibly unconstitutional manner to allow the FCC to regulate internet use in the same manner they regulate the telephone network. The real reason you're hearing so many corporations come out in favor of net neutrality is that the regulations that are in place suppress their competition and keep them from being asked to pay more for their bandwidth usage by the telecom companies.

And you thought it was about consumer choice....

http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/18/fcc-vote-isnt-the-end-of-net-neutrality

Educate yourself or just keep believing what Google, Facebook, Pornhub and Netflix tell you to believe.

>>383771104
>Arguing over freedom of information and the ability to access information regardless of what political spectrum it lies on whether it be alt-right garbage like Stormfront, Dailystormer or liberalcuck shit like CNN is the same as arguing over rule sets in tabletop RPGs.

Neck yourself

>>383771362
They are idiots who'll shoot themselves in the head if it'll piss off liberals. That's how insanely brainwashed conservatives are.

>>383771362
Honestly?
I'd be ok with russia taking over if it pissed them off lol

>live in an area of America where the ISP are already implementing data caps
>people here actually support getting rid of net neutrality cause all the liberals supports it
>try to explain it to them using examples they would relate to
>still want to get rid of it to make the liberals mad even if it fucks them over
god fucking dammit, I love it here, but sometimes i fucking swear this place piss me off

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>>383769709
>there people who are even contrarian about something like net neutrality

If there is anything 4chan has universally been on the side on, it's the internet.

>>383770212

literally impossible for the vast majority of the US, bub

>>383771152
if anything, aren't libs FOR this kind of thing because they don't know any better?

>>383771412
Hi skubfag

>>383771293
so you are willing to get everyone fucked in the ass just to make libshit cry and follow your memepresident orders?
christ

How did ISP gain such monoply? Dont you fucks have any regulations?
LIKE HOW!?

>>383770292
This and they charge you for early termination, which said retard ignored.

>>383770908
you want to badly smell this thread?

>>383771440
What will that accomplish?

>>383771312
cut the wire with a pocket knife

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>>383770971

>tfw literal nowhere in Illinois has way faster internet than your shitty commercial "city" in New Jersey

>>383771480
>regulations
Commies have no place in Trump's America, MAGA, etc.

>>383771304

Yeah lets support CNN and NBC instead

>>383771304
Listen, here bitchboy. Being anti net neutrality is wanting to give the ISPs power to control what websites you can access. If you give them that power, they absolutely, inarguable will abuse it to fuck us over. Think of it as the lesser of two evils if you want, but unless you're on the ISP's payroll, repealing Net Neutrality WILL negatively effect you.

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>>383771476
Yeah
I mean you responded to my post so it's already working.

>>383771480
They have extreme ties into our government. They can spend 200m on paying off elections and it won't even be a piss in their money stream.

>>383771312
There's nothing stopping you from looking up where ocean bed internet cables run to and from.

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>>383770574

>I am too horrified to believe that there are actually that many people that want the government to control what they can see

Are you dense or just totally uninformed about the topic?

Net Neutrality gives the FCC (the people who censor television and radio) MORE regulatory power over the internet.

If anything removing it makes it harder for the government to control the internet.

>>383771410
I don't like it either, but it's much, much better than the alternative. Being anti net neutrality is wanting to give the ISPs power to control what websites you can access. If you give them that power, they absolutely, inarguable will abuse it to fuck us over. Think of it as the lesser of two evils if you want, but unless you're on the ISP's payroll, repealing Net Neutrality WILL negatively effect you.

>>383771529
Mass liberal outrage
The amount of autistic screeching they'll produce will be orgasmic

>>383769981
You do realise that there are anti-monopoly watchdogs that can already fine big companies for unfair pricing

>>383771395
>doesnt hurt anyone but the top companies
Are you fucking retarded? Getting rid of it allows top companies to be even more fucking jewish.

And it's not like they need fucking excuses to charge people, Comcast admitted publicly that they have data plans for no other reason than to charge people extra money.
We don't need to give them yet another method to fuck us with.

>>383771454
There's a contrarian nihilism that's been spreading for a few years. It's the "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!" of our generation.

>>383771304
Because ISPs controlling speeds to certain websites is obviously against every website's interest, you dumb fuck. It's not a case of "hurr DA GOOD SIDE SUPPORTS THIS AND DA BAD SIDE SUPPORTS THAT" it's "these businesses happen to have interests that align with ours"

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>>383771480
literally every time major phone/service providers are split up they just re-merge into more megacorps, like slime enemies in games which combine to make bigger slimes even after you try breaking them apart

either some serious shit will have to change soon or we'll be full pic related in a decade or two

>as of this moment, there are 50 votes for sucking big fat hard Comcast dick
Jesus Christ. All the refugees who came to /pol/ during the election and turned it into what it is now are responsible.

Worst thing to ever happen to 4chan, moreso than even the botspam that left us with Captcha.

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>>383771480
If they're a major corporation, they can do whatever the fuck they want. It's the american way.

>>383771480
Lobbying. Pretty much how anything gets done in Murikkka.

so I look at porn and come back and everyone is talking about this.
I will go ahead and say, I'm a retard.
but what does this all mean?
feed me.

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>any year
>wanting to give Comcast and other ISPs even more power
What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>383771410
>Ignore the issues NN addresses
>Introduce a red herring 'FCC's power'
>Make claims that there is no internet dystopia despite clear cases of the big 3 abusing their power as an oligopoly
>Only quotes in the article are directly from Pai, the person at the forefront of attacking NN

->Back to /pol/

>>383771714
>>>>reddit

>>383771149
Is this okay?

>Majority of /v/ aren't full retard cucks opening wide for the kikes as ISPs
Thank fuck.

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>>383771534

can it be burnt somehow so it'll travel down the lines?

could it force companies to finally upgrade from AOL?

>>383771646
But that will be the end of the USA. That's the most unpatriotic thing I've ever heard.

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>>383771304
>REEEE MOST PEOPLE SUPPORT THIS SO THAT MEANS I HATE IT
>EVEN IF IT MEANS EVERYONE (INCLUDING ME) GETS FUCKED OVER
I fucking hate you. I really do. You're the cancer killing this board.
Most people like breathing, so you should stop doing that too.

>>383771767
you can't even link right. Get the fuck out and go back from where you came, ISP shill

>>383771758
m-muh libtard tears is the answer you're looking for

>>383771796
please dont use servals pictures like that she is a good girl that wouldnt commit crimes

>>383771659
Okay then. Let's see what happens when NN is removed. Then you'll watch your little fearmongering go to waste cause you don't know how the world of business works. If anyone could just raise prices and be done with it, being a business would be a lot easier.

t.someone who actually owns a business and goes to business conventions

>>383771638
What level of idiocy are you on? A law that prohibits ISPs from arbitrarily slowing connections to sites they dislike is somehow "Government Control." This is text book definition of misinformation. Get the fuck out of here shill.

>>383771454
Mostly T_D infections, even traditional /pol/ which was uber libertarian was pro neutrality.

I want to repeal and replace net neutrality, so neither the ISPs or the FCC have power.

>>383771572
except I'm by no means liberal, if anything I agreed the most with trump when it came to reinforcing immigrations policy, but he's been going more and more jewish since he was elected, in the end there was no good choice in that election

>the rest of the world
>no net neutrality laws
>dirt cheap internet with fast speeds

Have you ever thought maybe that Net Neutrality is a bad thing?

Remove it and it'll be better for everyone because you'll have competition in your ISP for once.

>>383771638
It really doesn't, because getting rid of whatever NN rules are currently in place doesn't prevent the FCC from placing rules about what/how data flows through the internet.

Also this is really a non-argument, where you equate all forms of regulation with all other forms of regulation, even though they are drastically different, so I can only assume that you have no fucking clue what net neutrality actually is.

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>>383771410
>links to reason, a libertarian site
>libertarians have been on both sides of the NN debate
I haven't seen much of Reason, but are they pro or anti NN in this case?
Because that's going to affect whether I think you're probably wrong.

Because ISPs shouldn't have the ability to regulate what we see online, and frankly, neither should the government. But the FCC should have powers in place that prevents private interests from violating net neutrality laws.

The government should have the teeth to enforce net neutrality, stop zero rating, and other policies like it. We need someone who is capable of kicking the ever loving tar out of these greedy fucks. Because the internet is much more than profit.

>>383771809
You just don't get it kid.
It's alright, we all grow up out of our commie lib phase one day.

>>383771796
Actual answer: You have to blow up the 7-8 major connection buildings that exist in the world simultaneously or everyone would just get really slow.

>>383771821
You realize if net neutrality is fucked, then you can't shitpost anymore, right?

>>383771878
can't do that under a republican. Can't really do it under a Crat either, but maybe 1/50 of them might have the balls to try.

>>383771792
/v/ has actually always been nearly 100% pro-net neutrality. This sudden corporate cuck invasion only cropped up when the personification of corporate cuckoldry was elected.

>>383771883
>He doesn't understand Trump's master plan
You must be some butthurt berniebro or some shit if you think Trump is 'going more jewish'

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>>383769709

>>383769709
>no captcha on the poll
I wonder who could be behind this post?

How much money did you receive from google?

>>383771894
The only reason we need NN laws here is because our corporations are so cancerous. The ISPs will do literally anything to fuck us over just to squeeze more money out of our pockets. It's not nearly as bad outside of America.

>>383771940
You think I like shitposting? Pun fully intended. I'm a slave to this website. When NN gets passed only then will I be free.

>>383771894
Literally how? Explain this. How is a monopoly gaining even more control over information and its consumers going to create competition?

>>383769903
Subsidized by public funds or incentivized by promise of monopoly.

It's why there isn't any of that lovely competition people are so keen to offer as an alternative. It's part of why the US' telecom infrastructure sucks balls, they haven't been forced my the market to upgrade or maintain it.

>>383771858
>A law that prohibits ISPs from arbitrarily slowing connections to sites they dislike is somehow "Government Control.
That is more gov control. If an ISP wants to do something like that, then the people can leave that company and go to a better one that doesn't do something like that, jesus what don't you fucking libs understand about that?

>>383771845
>If anyone could just raise prices and be done with it, being a business would be a lot easier.
Not anyone can.
You can if you're in a market with an oligopoly, and this can clearly be seen with data plans existing for home connections.
There isn't a real reason for these data caps. It doesn't cost Comcast anything extra to let you download 50 more GB a month, but they'll still rape your wallet anyways because fuck you, you don't have any real alternatives.

>>383771913
Yes I'm a commie and not you. The one who will accept Russia if it means some shmucks cry. Unpatriotic traitor.

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>>383771792
Most of 4chan understands the dangers of the kikes and kikery versus the indoctrinated /r/the_Donald kike lovers who are currently infesting /pol/ now.

>>383771653
>You do realise that there are anti-monopoly watchdogs that can already fine big companies for unfair pricing
You do realize that ISPs and cable providers don't actually compete with one another, right?

>>383771894
>he really fucking believes this

hahaha you fucking retard

What the fuck is Net Neutrality

>>383770997
post yfw you're not American but the internet in your country is terrible anyway

>Pro Net Neutrality
>it rapes ISPs, Corporations and consumers

>Anti Net Neutrality
>It rapes Corporations and Consumers

Obviously anti net neutrality is better because there's one less party it rapes.

>>383771981
Brainwashed Trump-fags will do anything their so called "god emperor" tells them to. Its pretty sad, I'm a republican but I can tell when my side is objectively wrong about something

>There are people in this thread that are rooting for corporations.
Explain your motivation for giving at shit.

>>383772015
Just don't use verizon lol was that so hard to understand?

>>383772060
You're letting emotions override your thought process. You underestimate the common man.

>>383771894
How the fuck does someone even arrive at a conclusion this retarded?

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>>383772059
>He thinks people in america can just switch Isp's without moving to another state
Wow, stop posting my man.

>>383772059
THERE IS NO COMPETITION FOR 99.9% OF AEMRICANS YOU FUCKING DENSE STUPID FUCKER
are you a fucking bot or some shit?

>>383770212
Not if they all block it.

>>383771446
it's like you live in a physical /v/

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>>383770212
Thinking burgers have choice when ISPs make contracts with local governments to keep options low
>some places only have 2 or 3 choices some areas only have 1
>because of aforementioned contracts no new ISPs can't get into certain areas
>oftentimes no contract with ISPs means no infrastructure for internet gets built

>>383772045
Or you could have a modicum of self control and fuck off somewhere else. Play a random-ass game, take up an addiction like crack, or have consenual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation

Then again, I hope you never breed

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anti-NN fags could you BE any more of a mouth breathing retard?

>>383772139
Your comment is rather cryptic, can you be more clear?

>>383769709
Please stop with the shill threads and go back to pleddit.

The internet seemed fine before June 2015 when NN was implemented, I'm sure we'll be okay without giving massive liberal propaganda outlets a free ride.

>>383772151
Fun fact: most major cities are under verizon or comcast control

>>383772151
It's not my fault that you live in some backwoods shithole or some lib city.
Why should I suffer just because you and your people never let some free market in to get good competition going?

>>383772135
How do you don't use verizon when they forced your city to literally pass a law that is illegal to have any other service?

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>>383771271
You mean pro-over population?

>>383772135
>all ISPs start doing it when NN is gone

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>>383772135

>>383770576
Capitalism allow peoples to create great things and then it ruins them.

>>383772140
A corporation's boot right up the poopshoot makes it hard to think

>>383771990
>bernie
already had enough with one socialist country, dont need this one to turn into one too, fuck him
>le 9D chest
unironically, not an argument

>>383772156
sorry i am from europe, we dont have such stupid problems like this lmao

>>383770212
Here's a fun little experiment.
How many choices for internet providers do you actually have, and how many of those have a max speed and availability you would be happy with.
I have 4 total choices, and only one actually offers a speed faster than 30 mbs

http://broadbandnow.com/

>>383772209
No. My comment is only for those who aren't dumbasses thinking NN is a good thing.

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>>383771640

>Being anti net neutrality is wanting to give the ISPs power to control what websites you can access

No, its not. That's not even close to what's been proposed..

What's happened is that the ISPs had to build new infrastructure to provide the services for things like Netflix, Facebook, Google and Pornhub which by themselves take up a majority of the bandwidth. The ISPs want to charge those companies more for their services and the regulations prevent them from doing so.

This is a corporate fight masquerading as a consumer affairs issue. That's why you see all of these companies and lobbyists throwing their weight (and money) behind it.

>>383771858

>What level of idiocy are you on? A law that prohibits ISPs from arbitrarily slowing connections to sites they dislike is somehow "Government Control."

That's not what net neutrality does. You don't even know what you're talking about and you should be ashamed of your ignorance.

Net Neutrality gave the FCC the same regulatory powers over the internet that it has over the telephone network.

>>383771906

>Also this is really a non-argument, where you equate all forms of regulation with all other forms of regulation, even though they are drastically different, so I can only assume that you have no fucking clue what net neutrality actually is.

It extends the law that the FCC used to regulate and break up the telephone monopoly in the 1930s to internet ISPS by reclassifying ISPs as a Title II telecommunications service.

I know exactly what net neutrality is and the powers that it entails. You clearly don't.

Educate yourself....

http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/18/fcc-vote-isnt-the-end-of-net-neutrality

>>383769843
The old government? No. This one? Why the fuck not?

>>383772252
Now I really know you came from reddit

>>383772203
Remember to practice what you preach anon.

How much does it cost to provide internet minus the cost of putting in cables?

>>383772224
It seems you have been subject to misinformation. Those laws protecting net neutrality were only passed in 2015 because that was the first time that NN was really threatened. Before 2015, the ISPs hadn't realized that they could jew us out of even more money by throttling access to certain sites.

>>383771826
This!

We dont need to think and come up with our own ideas or beliefs, we stand with everyone else!

If the most famous and popular people say something that means it's true and there's no arguing!

>>383771894
americas monstrous size and power means it can house huge and powerful corporations that are extremely hard to compete with.
For smaller countries there can be net neutrality effectively without many laws enforcing it, since the isps are smaller and not powerful enough to fuck with it.

>>383772059
>People can leave that company.
No they can't. That's why its called a monopoly you actual retard. There is no competition. Look things up before boisterously posting nonsense.
>fucking libs
just lmao.

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>>383771395
You don't understand. It hurts EVERYONE except the top companies if it goes down. Someone wants to make a competitor to Twitter? Well, Twitter pays comcast the fast lane speeds and no one uses Twitter2 because it's ridiculously slow. Websites like Wikileaks and 4chan will basically be outright banned with no reason needing to be given. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

>>383772031
It isn't that our companies are somehow more evil you retard, it's that the government at local, state, and federal level did business with these companies and struck deals when it comes to laying down and creating the infrastructure, but then gave the reins to the companies. It's all but impossible for there to be competition. They have all-but monopolies even in major urban areas due to this. It isn't feasible to come in and offer a better service or undercut the big guy. You literally can't. It's a utility at this point (and it should fucking be, considering how a lot of line was funded/put in and where it s) so it should be regulated as such.

Getting rid of net neutrality would be like having centerpoint energy own powerplants and GE appliances and charge you more for not using GE or make your non-GE appliances run like shit.

>>383772230
>It's not my fault that you live in some backwoods shithole or some lib city.

these are literally the only 2 types of locations that exist in the united states

>>383772224

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. http://fortune.com/2009/04/03/group-asks-fcc-to-probe-iphone-skype-restrictions/

2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-fines-verizon-125m-for-blocking-tethering-apps/2012/07/31/gJQAXjRLNX_blog.html

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. https://www.freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place. https://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2013/09/18/verizons-plan-break-internet

>>383772319
You are aware you live in a democracy right?

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>>383772260
>I don't want socialism
>But I want its laws

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>>383772224
>The internet seemed fine before June 2015 when NN was implemented
haha get a load of this idiot

these people actually have opinions on things, how fucking scary

>companies want to fuck me over harder
>already can only get broadband speeds due to the monopoly in my area
>another provider was laying fiber down in my backyard that I can't even use that's intended for the city over
>people unironically think this is okay

>>383770212
I live in Philadelphia, where Comcast is headquartered, where their non-outsourced support staff are headquartered, where they own a skyscraper, two arenas, the hockey team, and the NBC affiliate.

As you can imagine, the local government likes to "thank" Comcast for shoveling all their money into this city. They're the only game in town, and new companies aren't allowed to even lay their own cable (if they had the money for that) because Comcast got a law passed (this may be nationwide, not sure) that lets them charge anyone that adds new network infrastructure or tries to use their preexisting cables. They don't have a monopoly, it's just impossible for anyone new to get involved.

It's even worse if you live in the city. Verizon showed up with fiber at some point and I didn't even know until I moved into the suburbs because Comcast made deals with apartment buildings to only let their tenants get Comcast internet, because the landlord decides what cable is run in the building. These kinds of things are common in America. Imagine how much worse it would get if there was no regulation at all.

Internet sucks in America and if you buy the "Obamacare for the internet" cock and bull you're a fucking retard.

>>383769843
>le goverment is evul XDDD
>give control over internet to corporation! they care about us!

>>383772230
>Wow it looks like I know nothing about the subject, haha weird
And then you wonder why people harangue you.

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>>383772282
What's up with all the genuine ancaps lately? Every time NN discussion happens, these fuckers crawl out of the woodwork.
I don't mind you fellows existing, as it is a source of great image macros, but seeing you actually attempt discussion is painful to say the least.

>>383772331
I play random-ass games which doubles as my addiction, and I have a bf, so no procreation worries there, way ahead of ya.

>>383772310
>That's not even close to what's been proposed.
Don't fall for their lies, anon. For fucks sake. Of all the people to trust with the power to throttle access to select sites, you'd seriously trust the ISPs? American ISPs are already some of the worst companies there are. Given that power, they absolutely, undeniably will abuse it to fuck us over even more than they already do

>>383772370
what you said makes 0 sense when Russia exists and has no such problems

its just america being shit again

>>383772413
Stop copypasting this in every thread nigger

>>383772462
>Implying I have liberal friends

>>383772310
>It extends the law that the FCC used to regulate and break up the telephone monopoly in the 1930s to internet ISPS by reclassifying ISPs as a Title II telecommunications service.
You haven't explained why this is a bad thing.
ISPs do need to be busted up, competition in the market is laughable.

>>383772424
I rather keep this one and remove healthcare to fat fucks and anyone with more than 4 children

>>383770332
Just ignore the comcast and time warner reps.

>>383772230
>>383772059
At this point I'm starting to think you people are just falseflagging

>>383772423
And?

>>383772512
why because it proves you are a mouth breathing retard who gets paid to shill anti-NN shite?

the reason you shill is because your mother dropped you on your head as a child.

>>383772398
Your whole tier based internet argument means nothing considering that none of that happened prior to 2015. You're parroting typical ignorant journalists who have no idea how the internet or business works.

>>383772512
Sorry that facts trigger you

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>>383772512
Are you fucking kidding me? He's pretty much the only person posting actual, sourced information, and you want him to stop?

>>383772479
I'm happy for you Anon

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>tfw when you realize a decent amount of /v/ would've been pro SOPA if daddy Trump approved of it

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>>383772571
What gave you that idea?

>>383772532
>I live in a bubble
Jesus, stop posting anytime buddy. Think you've embarrassed yourself enough for one day.

>>383769843
>>wanting to give the corporations control of the internet


fuck off to /biz/

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>>383772310
If ISPs start to charge more to companies like Facebook and Google, they're going to charge less for their own vertically integrated services. Which will divide what we can and cannot use on our daily lives.

This will also stop innovation entirely on the internet, as finding end user connection service will cost individual companies money, and it will cost a site like 4chan money to connect to it's users, if NN is abolished.

Anti NN policies will literally consolidate the globe's infrastructure and the entire use of it into a handful of companies which will then act as gatekeepers to what will get used.

You should educate yourself, my man. You cannot even as a libertarian stand against net neutrality without being a complete hypocrite.

Why would anyone be PRO Net neutrality?

Why would anyone want more government intervention on the INTERNET of all things.
Where do people come up with conspiracy theories of ISPs blocking websites or package access to certain websites, that's literally unheard of.

Americans are just overreacting like usual and crying that the sky is falling while when it actually happens, nothing will change. No governmental intervention is a good thing for everything and especially the internet.

>>383772497
russia is nearly twice the size of the US geographically, but only has about half of the population

>>383772410
>What are suburbs

Nigga you might be retarded.

Or is this bait. Fuckit

>>383772497
russia is not exactly an economic powerhouse anon

>>383772310
>they want to charge these companies more
Too fucking bad. It doesn't matter what the data running through the tubes is-- it's fucking irrelevant. I don't see Time Warner bitching about the data used by HBO streaming or Comcast with on-demand streaming. Oh right, because they OWN THOSE. The internet has changed and requires more bandwidth than ever and its up to those companies to provide the service or not. They are the ISPs.
>But but but they have to pay for the lines
And they fight tooth and nail to be the only ones allowed to. Look at Google's attempts to enter the market and lay down line to be competition. Oh right, they can't! Until there can be competition, regulation is needed.

>>383772618
People unironically thought he wore adult diapers and started wearing them as well trying to trigger liberals. Don't go down this hole.

>>383771653
>You do realise that there are anti-monopoly watchdogs that can already fine big companies for unfair pricing
You do realise that they watch away hence you cuckt by ISP´s in USA

>>383772638
>This will also stop innovation entirely on the internet, as finding end user connection service will cost individual companies money, and it will cost a site like 4chan money to connect to it's users, if NN is abolished.
Pop quiz: what did websites do before NN?

>>383772603
Those laws protecting net neutrality were only passed in 2015 because that was the first time that NN was really threatened. Before 2015, the ISPs hadn't realized that they could jew us out of even more money by throttling access to certain sites. Even so, all this shit still happened before 2015.
2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. http://fortune.com/2009/04/03/group-asks-fcc-to-probe-iphone-skype-restrictions/

2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-fines-verizon-125m-for-blocking-tethering-apps/2012/07/31/gJQAXjRLNX_blog.html

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. https://www.freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place. https://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2013/09/18/verizons-plan-break-internet

>>383772581
>>383772605
>>383772614
Fake, cherry picked news

>>383772654
>that's literally unheard of.
Time warner blackmailed netflix into paying them, if they didn't pay, they would have blocked their service.Do your research or continue to be wrong. Your choice.

>>383772654
>Hello I have an opinion even though I don't know what I'm talking about

>first thread I see today with some interect discussion and not pure meme or consolewar
>mod will purge it cause not vidya
I hope all ISPs boycott 4chan and fuck Hiro in the ass

the fact that pro censorship jewgle is behind it makes me question

>>383772654
please read
>>383771858

>>383772386
is that white bread? disgusting! give me none gmo whole wheat

>>383772618
>b-but Drumpf
This is exactly why I am pro net-neutrality
Anything that hurts you fags is good for me.

>>383772654
Yes let's trust those monopolizing, politician buying, anti-consumer fucks. You're not fooling anyone you shill.

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>>383772603
Yes yes! >>383772413 Goy! Defend the Olig- I mean free market! Freedom of speech is at stake goyim!

>>383772654
see
>>383772413
>>383772727

Actually fucking kill yourself you goddamn shill.

>>383772475

Let them be. Ancaps thinking they actually know economics is hilarious.

Daily reminder Ancap founder and hack Murray Rothbard was pro police brutality and wanted to replace adoption agencies with a baby free market

>>383772732
you know what isn't fake? the extra chomosomes you posses.

>>383772685
suburbs are in the camp of "needing to move to another state to switch ISPs" too anyways

>>383772727
>website puts a strain on available bandwidth
>surprised when company uses an action to decrease said strain

Whether their intentions are benevolent or not, it's their right to do so. Unlike most people here, I'm informed enough to know your little links mean nothing.

>same people who silence others for being critical about mass immigration suddenly want to support free and open internet

Really makes you think

>>383772654
Get the fuck out of here you Russian piece of shit

>>383772769
Same for me
But for removing NN

>>383772732
>Things that really happened and I don't agree with are fake

>>383772654
Want to know who the top TV providers are?
DirecTV, Verizon Fios, AT&T, Dish, Time Warner Cable and Comcast.
Want to know who the top ISP's are?
Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner Cable, Century Link, Charter, and Verizon.

>>383772769
So you're with us.... Unless you wrote it wrong.

As long as my speeds don't decrease and the price I pay doesn't increase, I don't really give a shit.

Companies have been selling our information to highest bidders for awhile now, so nothing new.

>>383772573
And despite your wet dreams, the current government will not remain the government for all time. Saying things will because you feel confident in the current leadership is shortsighted.

>>383769709
Does it affect EU as well?

>>383772713
The issue of NN has been hard fought for, for a long time now. ISPs have always tried to create vertically integrated services. Remember AOL and it's various services? Before, they could not throttle access or remove it to various sites. Also in recent memory was the BBSes and other predecessors which you had to pay a lot of money for, to access very little content, which was all gated by the company.

It wasn't until very recently that people lost this memory and libertarians started demanding to lick boots harder.

>>383772783
What he listed was not tier based pricing. It was simply companies being dicks to each other.

>>383772618
Why couldn't Jeb win instead? It would have been the most glorious time in the history of America.

>>383770212
>implying us Americans have the luxury.
we don't you silly little Yuropoor.

>>383772859
I am pro removing it of course.

sorry.

>>383772786
Wait, i am confused.
Why is an anarchist pro-police?
Or did he want the police to be made into individual owned agencies which had right to beat everyone their owner didnt like?

>>383771035
It matters because one side is actively trying to jew all of us.

>>383772835
Why not post all the stories where healthy capitalist competition was going to benefit people but then the govt screwed them over

>>383772654
so you're not american
know nothing about the situation in america
aren't reading the threads

Why the fuck are you here?

>>383772059
and if all ISP´s do this where do you go?

>>383772654
Why would anyone want the government to regulate literally any market?
To stop monopolistic companies from fucking everyone in the ass, you moron.

>>383772870
Since there is a chance that both your prices could increase and that your speeds could decrease, you should give a shit.

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>>383772690
Russian here. True, but our internet are really cheap, for now. Our government pushing new rules to spy on EVERYONE, of course we suppose to pay for it and the price is astronomic.

>>383772769
So you agree? You realize that Trump supports abolishing NN right?

>>383772874
I feel like the EU has bigger problems to worry about.

>>383772902
He believed the only function of the state was to protect people and private property

>>383772654
>not American, Canadian, or Australian
>Bases entire life views on whether or not the government has anything to do with it

Obviously some of the NN infographics are meme tier with them charging extra 20 bucks to get the 4chan browsing package. But there are documented cases of them tilting speeds to their advantage. This is not even bringing up the fact that they have admitted to their shareholders that NN has no impact on their investment decisions and they will investment tremendously 2016 onward.

>>383772197
You have to remember a lot of america is like that now. That's what happens when you get ignored for 30 years. You start blaming the people that didn't get ignored.

When did 4chan get invaded by redditors who defend CORPORATIONS who line their pockets with more money from idiots who support legislation that would allow them to make more money off us?

I thought we were anarchists? ANTI NET NEUTRALITY YOU IDIOTS WE NEED TO FIGHT AGAINST THE CORPORATIONS

>>383769709
the issue is very simple in nature. currently in the us and many other european nations the internet is classed as an appliance, like water and electricity.
you pay for what you get. the us usually has datacaps but the rest of the world has a flatrate approach. you pay for the desired amount of speed and you get that with out any restrictions to any website that you can reach.
isp want to be greedy as fuck though. lets say you are youtube. for your internet connect you pay a shitload more money than the average joe because you move a lot more traffic. everywhere else in the world its working as intended. companies pay more because they need to move more traffic.
this does not work in the us though. because the US infrastructure is incredibly shit. this isnt the main reason though. now imagine for a second. what could happen if you could charge people extra money for visiting certain sites or using certain services? thats exactly whats gonna happen. lets say google is paying comcast as their isp. well comcast can now overcharge google by a shotload of money and not only that they can charge other people extra money to access youtube in the first place in addition to their internet access fee. it might not be flat out access but at the very least "fast" access. which currently would be just regular access as your used to it.
you get the idea, its all about money.
now heres how it affects everyone in the world. internet traffic that is passing through american servers is american traffic, thus falls under american law. and because you rarely actually directly connect to a server but instead jump through several hoops to get to your actual destination it will affect you regardless of where you are, because like 70% of the internet is hosted in america.

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The jews want extra shekels for certain sites, why would you support that?
Anyways im not even american so i literally doesnt care

>>383772924
To a better ISP, did you read what I wrote?
Free market will have conditions to let competition grow

>>383772821
>it's their right to do so
Except it's literally not. It might become their right, but that will make the internet worse for literally everybody not on the ISPs' payroll, so people are fighting it. And if you believe that the situation is as simple as that, you've been had, my friend. If you give them the power to selectively throttle internet access, they will ABSOLUTELY, abuse it to fuck us over. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of how much. Being anti net neutrality is being in favor of furthering the already huge problem of ISP monopolies, and it honestly makes no sense.

>>383772957
Probably true for the UK more than france
France is pretty great right now

>anti 88 votes to 450

are these faggots just contrarians or trolling?

>>383772821
Nigger, half of those links are about blocking competing services to promote their own shit. You know, attempting to rule by monopoly by denying access to things?

>>383772995
Jews also want NN so I dont want that

>>383769709
Who the fuck is correct ? so much misinformation is being fucking spewed I.

>>383771480
>he thinks regulations stop monopolies forming
REGULATORY CAPTURE

>>383773036
France has more muslims and is part of the EU.
If anything the UK is the one I have any hope for.

>>383772870
NN isn't about selling your data to the highest bidder, they've been doing that shit for ages now, and it's a separate issue.

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>>383772875
> Remember AOL and it's various services?

And you also remember what happened to AOL? That's the problem with you guys who are for the government's intervention: you have no trust in humankind or the common man. People are smarter than you take them for, and ceos at these cable companies arent waiting to buttfuck you anymore than they already are. Believe me, if they could right now, they would be charging everyone a whole lot more. But then they wouldnt be getting business except to the most wealthy of people. And that will have more competition come into play seeing this black out. Even the government would incenticize this at that point considering how important the internet is in our day and age.

So while you continue to believe that no NN is doomsday, remember that NN was a shill method to begin with that didnt exist until three years ago. That's over fifteen years that the internet existed without it.

Believe me, if you're afraid of it's removal, it's because you're being jewed by the actual jew.

>>383772990
The shills anon. They are obvious in this thread. They are using the same tactics they always do. Fight back!

>>383773070
>Jews on both sides of the issue
>better pick the one that doesn't benefit me in any way whatsoever
good thinking

why are people FOR getting their internet taken away now? the last time, it was nowhere this bad on /v/

shhh just let things happen
the free market will fix it

>>383773070
you retard the owner of comcast is the world's biggest jew
all the ISP megaowners are jews

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>hurrr durr theyll block everything that isn't government approved propaganda and facebook and charge you hundreds to do it!!
Reality:
>isps will start charging streaming services or throttle them until they're not straining the network

>>383772828
Imagine that, even SJWs understand that removing net neutrality is bad and some retards on /v/ are still against it.

>>383773040
84% is still a landslide

>>383769843
>wanting to give corporations control of the internet
No thanks, Comcast already reams me monthly anyways, and it's not like I have any other options to pick from here.

>>383773032
If you dont want the isp to have any right, then your first goal is to remove NN. Clean that shit out, then get down to make rules that will actually regulate the business of the internet.

>>383773075
Honestly only said that because they didn't elect a retard into office like many other countries

>>383773090
This
Libs go on and on how the right is heartless, when in reality they are just projecting hard as fuck

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It feels like we have this argument every 3 years. This is the first time I've seen so many anti-NN posts though. NN will probably live this time but you just know sooner or later they will sneak something through that kills it and lets ISP starts fucking people in the ass harder

>>383773006
>Just go to another Isp lmoa
>I don't know what a monopoly is
>If you just sit back it will work out ok
John D Rockefeller would like to have a word with you. You know the guy that built up such a huge monopoly that the only thing that could stop him was the fucking Supreme court.

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>the free market
Try changing your ISP and tell me how that goes.

Here's a hint, odds are you won't be able to change because they essentially own areas.

>>383773074
>Regulation has literally stopped monopolies from forming historically.
>Sometimes it fails
Guess that means we better just give up, huh?

>>383773165
France elected a Rothschild banker.
They are completely fucked. On all levels.

>>383773127
Or
>isps will start throttling the networks that have an agreement with another isp
>Websites who have not written an agreement with the isp are throttled by everyone

>>383773210
That wasn't a true free market
Nice try though

>>383773090
Dial-up = using phone lines = more ISPs could move into the game. That isn't possible anymore... unless you propose we go back to dial-up and stick with satellite internet. You fucking retard.

>>383770752
/pol/ would instantly turn into zionists if Soros said he was against Israel.
Like hell I'm letting some shitheap like Comcast control what I do

>>383773197
It's the steady normalization that's causing what you're seeing here.

>>383773197
What if I told you SOPA and NN are the same thing

>>383773197
Yup they'll find some loophole than NN won't even matter

>>383773090
What fucking planet are you living on? Also, the 3 years ago meme has been disproved countless times.

>>383773140
Its not good enough. There are 88 people on this site who want it to be in jeopardy shutting down and are vocal about that opinion. Its shit like this that made based Moot leave.

>>383773197
The election brought a lot of fuckwits here who never left and think they're in good company. I have a feeling these idiots would've supported SOPA, too

>>383773250
he's actually an interdimensional psychic vampire. He just wants you to think he's a banker

>have to choose between empowering monopolistic megacorps or the government that created said megacorps
hmmmm

>>383773108
New people.
Most recently from /r/t_d

Then there are both old and new people who are victims of political tribalism so they go with what daddy trump says.

Even then, there's 84/16, and I think /v/ is probably a "swing board" close to 50/50 on politics in general, maybe a bit in favor of trump over hillary last election so 40/60 for trump, so despite that there's a supermajority for pro net neutrality here.

>>383773197
>sooner or later they will sneak something through that kills it
We can only hope its very soon.

>>383773224
see
>>383772275

NN is not perfect, and the way it is implemented is DEFINITIVELY not perfect, given it's a obongo thing.
But at the moment is something actually needed.