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If another Smash Bros game gets made and also has a story mode,

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If another Smash Bros game gets made and also has a story mode, who would you want to be the main villain?
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>>383758356
Taboo deserves another go
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>>383758356
Ridley
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>>383758424
Naw, he was pretty bad.
>>383758469
Not enough of a threat.
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Just anything that isn't a glowey/shadowey homosapien/monster.
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how about a whole Team of Villains from different Worlds the roster comes from.
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>>383758608
Boring and overdone.
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>>383758356
I wouldn't mind a regular "league of villains" type thing. OCs feel out of place in a game like this.
Just Bowser, Ganon, Dark Matter, Ridley, K. Rool, etc. up to no good.
No OC enemies, just enemies from the character's games.
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Needs to be some kind of council made up of big bads from various franchises.

I nominate Cackletta for Council member #1.
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>>383758741
I mean, who would even be on the League of Villains?

Bowser and Ganondorf are obvious choices.
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>>383758842
Hades, Eggman, Dr. Wily.
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>>383758356
Andross. Got the whole two disembodied hands thing going already - would be a nice homage to melee. Would be cool to see the return of Gigabowser. Maybe some more "giga" enemies. GigaDK? GigaWario? GigaGanondorf?
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>>383758842
>>383758741
>having playable characters be part of the villain group

It should be "lesser" villains that are fed up with Bowser, Ganon, and the others doing a shit job.
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>>383758741
>Ridley

How about Dodongo too while we're at it
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>>383758994
In that case, Wart and Vaati could fill in for Mario and Zelda.
Dark Matter or Marx certainly works well for kirby.
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>>383758356
Sandbag, obviously.
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Professor peach
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>>383758356
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>>383759101
Are you implying Mother Brain would be a better choice? Ridley is certainly more iconic.
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Either of these two.
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Fuck shitty OCs. Have the villains team up while introducing more villains into the roster.
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>>383759342
Andross or... Gigaleg from Super Mario Galaxy?
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>>383759228
Well, Ridley is just Mother Brain's henchmen at best, snarling mindless beast at worst.
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>>383759597
this nigga has no idea
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>>383759597
No, it's the GEATHJERK from Wonderful 101.
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>>383758356
We all know Sakurai needs to have his OC Donut Steel villain god, but I would love if K Rool was a side villain, kidnapping the Smash 4 DLC characters and parading around wearing their clothes, in hopes that he can sneak into the roster. In terms of other characters not yet in the game Eggman, Wily, Andross, Octavio, and Hades are musts
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>>383758741
I don't want League of Villains. I want Villains being petty and fighting each other as much as the Heroes. Just have mashed up universes with everyone fighting for the chance to fight Master Hand, and Crazy Hand fucking things up.

No OCs besides player created Miis
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Professor Vector from Gyromite/Stack-Up

Prof. Hector would be your ally
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>>383759884
Miis would essentially just be self-insert shit, you kidding?
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>>383759690
Oh. I have Wonderful 101, I just never played it
is it as good as people say it is?
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>>383760098
Yes.
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>>383758994
>League of Goombas, Kritters, Space Pirates, Waddle Dees, Moblins, Badniks, and Underworld Army soldiers all fed up

That could be amazing if handled the right way
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>>383760202
I like this. It's a unique take on the "league of villains" thing.
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>>383760202
>It's The Goomba from 1-1
>Koopa the Quick
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>>383759957
Well why the fuck even bother with a Story mode unless you're just going to make it a wank fest

I don't want something like Subspace again. Just make it fun, actiony, and goofy
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>>383758356
I JUST WANT THE SEMEN DEMON SQUIDS TO BE PLAYABLE PLSSS SAKURAI
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>>383758356

Pull an Infinite and fuse two bad guys for the final boss.

Dark Matter + Ganondorf = Ganonmatter (Dark Ganon is a boring name).
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Keep it all Nintendo, no OC shit like they did with Brawl. In Brawl, the levels and majority of the enemies was all OC bullshit. It might as well have been a Kirby game.
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>>383758356
An evil generic dark humanoid figure like taboo that's secretly controlled by sandbag
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>>383760812
>Not Bowser, Ganon, and Mewtwo to pay homage to the Event Match
>Mowserdorf
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>>383759103
yea
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>>383760962

All I can imagine is some kind of lego robot boss that just has their heads.
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>>383761464
>Giga Bowser body
>Ganon head
>Mewtwo's tail
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>>383761464
You mean that thing from the Billy and Mandy X Kids Next Door crossover?
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>>383758842
Bowser, Ganondorf, Mewtwo, Dedede (maybe Meta Knight), Wario, Jr., K. Rool, Ridley, Wolf
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>>383758356
Master Dick
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>>383759597
Kek, Gigaleg would be so out of left field.
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>>383758608
How about Dark Pit feels lonely so he uses Pandora's mirror to make opposite copies of the entire roster, and then it's up to the regular good guys and the mirrored bad guys to stop the regular bad guys and mirrored good guys from wrecking havoc, until they all kiss and make up and Dark Metaknight and Mirror Kirby from Kirby and the Amazing Mirror invites all the mirrored Smash Bros to go live in the mirror world with them?
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>>383758356
Alliance (they work with the main villain)
-Eggman
-Bowser
-Ganondorf
-Hades
-Mewtwo

each of them has a co-worker who would be playable in the game so in order:
-Shadow
-A new antagonist from Mario Odyssey?
-Vaati
-Viridi/Medusa
-Darkrai/Lunala or Owl from Sun & Moon

The main villain will deliver some forces (Boss like Ridley, Ultra-Beast, Anankos...). The main villain would be a character from Fire emblem on Switch (not FE Warriors but the one planned on 2019 or whatever).
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>>383760489
Am I the only one who liked Subspace?
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>>383758469
This. Sakurai's ultimate meta jab at ridleyfags. He'll be an unplayable boss character.
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>>383758356
I would want a bunch of villains to be in the game as secret characters. As such, for story mode, I would want it to be where a bunch of the heros have been brainwashed by the hidden bad guys, and equipped with dangerous technology that turns them each into a boss fight. You start out having to deal with Bowser and Ganondorf using a machine to control and strengthen Mewtwo as a weapon you have to fight in different levels. Eventually, you break the machine, and play as Mewtwo getting revenge in a 2 on 1 handicap battle against Bowser and Ganondorf. After you beat them, Bowser Jr saves Bowser and flies off. Ganondorf reveals that he doesn't know who is brainwashing characters, but he does know where he got the technology and tells you. Then, you go through a bunch of generic looking laboratory and machinery levels, only to fight a secret character, Crash Bandicoot, having been brainwashed by Neo Cortex, covered in weapons made by Dr. Wily, and riding Dr. Eggmans vehicle. That's the last boss before the final boss, which is a handicap match of 3 on 1 where you fight against Cortex, Wily, and Eggman on a single team.

I think this concept for a story mode would be cool. Would feel very like old school games do. This of course is assuming the new game gets to keep Megaman, Sonic, and adds Crash.
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>>383762372
Like he has been for the last two games?
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>>383762208
I liked the idea of Subspace, the cutscenes, the "story", all of it was fine. But the gameplay was so fucking bad.
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>>383762534
Yes, but this time he'll actually have an important role in the story while still unplayable.
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The main villian is some evil king, but the final-final fight is a dragon, since half of the characters are from Fire Emblem anyways.
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I'd much rather them going with a Melee-style adventure mode where they don't try to shoehorn a cringy fanfic and simply build a series of levels themed around video game series and you can run through them as any character.
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>>383762503
Might be cool, but I'm not really fond of the idea of a third party character being the big bad of a huge, (mostly) Nintendo crossover. I kind of felt like they went overboard with 3rd parties last time, Cloud and a literally who like Bayo were really pushing it. Crash is a long-shot, as he actually used to be a Sony mascot. Though of course, they got Cloud, so I guess anything could happen, but I wouldn't count on it.
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>>383762887
I always thought it'd just be awkward having a Western game character in a game full of all Japanese franchises.
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>>383762729
This.

>>383762701
>Six
>half

Man, I love all the FE bitching.
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>>383762887
I was thinking, if you beat Cortex, Wily, and Eggman quickly, you get a "crazy hand" boss, which ends up being Giga Bowser and Beast Ganon on a team. Better?
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>>383762729
At least a cringy fanfic would be entertaining. Melee's adventure mode was boring and didn't really have any payoff to playing through it.
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>>383762887
>a literally who like Bayo were really pushing it
>Ice Climbers
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>>383763036
Don't get me wrong, if Naughty Dog signed off I'd love to have Crash in the game (I'd much prefer him to Cloud or Bayo, honestly), but I'd hope they port the Crash Trilogy to Switch in return or something.
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>>383762729
Melee's mode to me felt stale and generic. Like it was a prospect forced into the game at the last second. You may say "cringy fanfic", but what everybody likes about Smash is all of these different character interacting with each other when you would normally never see them at all. Smash 4 really should have had a story mode added, so many crazy character interactions could have happened that would have been interesting or at least entertaining.
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>>383763271
Ice Climbers aren't 3rd-party, dude. If you're going to have a 'special guest star', you need them to be a SPECIAL guest star. The only reason Bayo got in is because they wanted to shill her Wii U exclusive sequel.
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>>383763668
She was voted in.
By Europe.
Remember?
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>>383763668
She won a poll
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>>383763743
That's because the characters that beat her were fucking shrek and goku
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>>383763743
>Bayonetta
>getting more votes, in any region of the world, than like any Pokemon ever

Top of the 'realizable characters' list my ass.
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>>383763858
suuuure she did.
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>>383763668
>>383763870
>>383763981

You wouldn't have been happy no matter who won. Believing in conspiracy theories isn't going to bring back your neglected character. For me, Smash is about the moveset, not the character, and Bayo's moveset is fun to play and pretty unique.
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Bowser, Ganondorf, Hades, Louie, Andross, some FE villain, Shadow or Eggman, Ridley, some Octarian, some ARMS villain, Tom Nook, Riley Reid, Hitler, etc. I don't fucking know just a council of villains from the series already, or better yet a council of minor villains that's stir shit up and the playable villains want to stop them as much as the others because it's messing with their own villainy.
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>>383763981
She did
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>>383758356
I've been missing over a single player story in the next Smash for a while. Bear with me.
>Ganondorf hears Demise's will
>tears a portal into other worlds and recruits Bowser (promise of glory and power), Dedede (food), Meta Knight (order), and Ridley (???)
>using Peach's voice, the Triforce, the Wishing Star, and some kind of Chozo tech they can tear open the seal into Demise's world
>Ganondorf honestly will deliver on his promises to his new allies, Bowser will betray when most convenient and take over, Dedede just likes helping his new friends, Meta Knight will betray and try to use it to better Dream Land, Ridley is there I guess
>in the end the real bad guy was Master Hand, who let everyone on because it was entertaining
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>>383764265
Bullshit. I would have been glad if a Nintendo character had won, regardless of who it was.

I just kind of find it hard to believe that the ballot winner just happened to be a relatively obscure 3rd-party character with a grand total of 2 games, neither of which sold extremely well, and one of which just so happened to been recently funded by and exclusive to a Nintendo console.
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>>383765307
Real bad guy should be Mewtwo, manipulating everyone with mind-control.
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Drumpf
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>>383763981
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I don't think there should be a story mode, per se, but a modular adventure mode, a la Melee.

Basically, each character has to complete 10 stages, and each series gets its own stage sets (IE, Dream Land, Big Blue, Metroid escape sequence, etc). The stages played through are determined by your character, ending with a fight against a boss, depending on your speed/performance, like Giga Bowser or Crazy Hand.

Really, the only feature I want is for there to be an unlock code feature, that way they can lock a lot of the roster until you unlock them like in Melee or Smash 64. I'm tired of there being so few unlockable characters just so the game can be used for tournaments.
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>>383765779
Oh, and when I mean per series, I think that sub-series should get their own representation, that way Mario doesn't absorb Yoshi, DK, and Wario.
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>>383765307
>Ganondorf kidnaps Peach, Mario and Luigi follow (Wario follows them hoping to steal the show)
>Bowser kidnaps Zelda, Link follows
>Dedede is in charge of recharging a portal machine which inexplicably is powered by food
>he steals all the bananas from DK Jungle, DK and Diddy follow
>Ridley narrowly escapes a fight with Samus into Dreamland, Samus follows
>Meta Knight goes to Kid Icarus heaven and steals some holy artifact
>all the villains show up in Dreamland, the heroes meet up and work together
>they all fight their respective villains
>Dedede powers up the portal machine and shoots the heroes into scattered dimensions
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I think a proper Sub Space Emissary could be a good idea, but it needs some serious reworking.
>No more OC donut steels
>Characters are divided into factions, that way you don't have the entire team together
>You can play through team conflict chapters as any of the given teams
>There is no main protagonist team, for story purposes

Have about 3 - 4 teams, and it's golden.
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>Putting this kind of game on a kid friendly console
What the fuck
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>>383766363
"Kid friendly"

Nintendo has always tried to appeal to adults as well. Their largest demographic is 25 - 32 year old men.
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>>383758741
There's a reason why that won't work.
All the bad guys lose. They're too well known for losing. If all the bad guys band together, then whatever coalition of good guys will far surpass the power of the bad guys easy.
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>>383766163
I am extremely autistic, at hold on
>Mario guys go to Toon Hyrule, get Toon Link's help to jump back to Dreamland
>Link goes to Yoshi Island, a Yoshi follows him around and he manages to make contact with Shiek (shiekah magic n shit)
>Kongs go to a different part of Dreamland, a helpful guy named Marx explains the importance of the Working Start and tags along to help them
>Samus ends up in Mute City, gets in a fight with various other both hunters, but Captain Falcon helps her out and let's her ride his ship so he can help out
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>>383766595
It depends on the bad guys being used. All the team of villains really needs is a good leader. Plus, the villains usually have really OP armies, especially the ones in Xenoblade and Metroid.

As long as they don't all have to be playable, you could throw in Luxaar, Ridley, Mother Brain, Hades, and Zanza and call it a day. Them alone would be able to thwart the vast majority of the "heroes"
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