>40k plot moves forward >one of the Primarchs returns to

>>383753076
For me it was newcrons

Dawn of War is dead

we sort of had a good run

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>>383753076
Cadia endures

>>383753076
>Where did it all go wrong lads?
In 2015, none interested in making games about Wargame#2

>>383753076
>>only WHFB is sort of doing ok with W:TW2 and Vermintide
And Mordheim

what was the crazy rumor going around about the emperor fucking dying???

>>383756167
WHFB is doing as bad as 40k plotwise, all the games are smart enough to be set before then.

>>383756231
WOO LET'S GO STAR CHILD

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>>383753076
>>Cadia explodes and the Eye of Terror spans almost the entire galaxy
good

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>>383756231

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>>383756568

>>383753076
sometimes I forget there's a plot to 40k and not just memes

>>383756167
How the fuck do I play Mordheim multiplayer? Where the fuck do I even start? Do I have to join some leagues or some similar bullshit? Every time I try playing a skirmish against someone and make a lobby I end up waiting for half and hour and then give up, because nobody joins.

>>383754491
Creed dying is the worst fucking part about Cadia falling.

>>383759438
When they went to bury him, they found out his coffin was actually an infiltrated baneblade squadron. He might still be out there.

>>383759438
>Creed dying
Vulkan lives

>>383753076
>Eternal Crusade
>No Space Marine sequel
>Space Hulk was half broken and filled with jank

I like the setting, but they're not letting me enjoy it. Plus weren't DoW2&3 poorly received?

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>>383761173
>DoW2
>poorly received

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>>383761173

It wasn't that bad.

>>383760610
*STOMP STOMP

Ever since the lore is moving /tg/ is becoming unbearable

>>383761583
derosa is mai 40k waifu

>>383763030
You the how autists will say you can't do 40k RPG games without using the new lore?

/tg/ is fine :^) with its abundance of generals and how everyone hates eachother

>>383753076
>>only WHFB is sort of doing ok with W:TW2 and Vermintide
problem is it's just video games, the game itself is dead

>tfw you will never be as great as I, Cato Sicarus, the greatest of space marines

;_;

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>>383761173
The singleplayer of 2 was well received but the multi wasn't, plenty of people enjoyed Last Stand mode though. Neither the single or multi of 3 had a good response

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Is it true that Macha became a fucking robot?

>40k plot moves thousands pf years forwards
>now called Warhammer Infinium
>the empire of man is now terrifyingly powerful having developed texhnology that makes the power of chaos their bitch
>Slaneesh is now used as an energy source forever trapped in a machine
>after an experiment gone horribly wrong to use the orcs group thought to make one man incredibly piwerful, the orcs have become aware of their power and are now also terrifyingly powerful, able to assemble any machine from pure scrap and have it work because they believe it should
That's as far as I've gotten with this far-off future of 40k

>>383765396
Taldeer, I'm sorry. I got them mixed up

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>>383765396
Taldeer from dark crusade became a mecha

>>383765591
So is LIIVI getting in the fucking robot?

>>383765754
Naked like a proper mech pilot and penetrating the innermost operating core

>>383759438
>Creed dying
He didn't die, he's currently part of Trazyn's collection

>>383766316
Absolutely hillarious!

>Wh40k plot runs forward
>its abour ultrasmurfs and spiritual liege

Oh fuck this shit and this mary sue chapter

>>383754491
>Twin Sister of Battle Cannonesses

Please stop, my dick can only get so big!

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>>383753076

AGE OF SIGMAR GAME WHEN?

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>>383768070
What space marine chapter is that marine from?

>>383768367
Storm Wanders

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>Write a salty, spiteful review about how shit and disappointing Deathwing is and how it fucks up the most basic shit when compared to other co-op games like VT, L4D, Payday, etc.
>500+ people found my review helpful

>>383768070

wait so they axed WHFB so they could have an excuse to put medieval Space Marines in?

>>383768715
>VT
Wut?

>>383768740
yes
the new game and new lore fucking sucks ass too

>>383753076
This franchise has always been shit. I was only in it for the mechs.

>>383768070
Go back to /tg/ to shitpost, lad. I know it's /v/2.0 at this point, but come on.

>>383768715
eh at least the spaceship environments were neat.
I suppose that's where 90% of the budget and schedule went cause the rest is mostly dick.

>>383768789
Vermintide probably

>>383768715
>Surprised a company that only game creation was fucking E.Y.E
>the only other game they developed was a Source Mod Game
>the only other game was one which failed when all their best talent was sniped by other companies

>>383768740
yes, holla holla get dolla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MzNpMD1K8

>>383768740
>medieval Space Marines
Well, they aren't so medieval since they use grendaes and boltstorm pistols.

>>383769036

this is a shitpost right?

>>383769140
>this is a shitpost right?
No. One of sigmarines literally throwing holy grenade in Nurgle.

>>383767062

Cannonesses are usually old and hideous

target audience grew up

35 year old businessmen dont need power fantasies

>>383768789

Vermintide, people often compare the two because:

1. Theyre similar in playstyle (4 player survival L4D style co-op)
2. Both are Warhammer, ones just Fantasy the other's 40k
3. The Vermintide devs actually listened when people said their game was shit and fixed it up a decent amount with balance patches and free DLC that fixed some of the RNG bullshit. Meanwhile the DW devs sided with the dicksucking fanboys who said the game was 10/10 perfect and everyone else dropped it.

>>383753076
>>Battlefleet Gothic Armada is dead

it's also shit,w hy did you skip it?

>>383754491
So we might get Chaos Creed?

>>383770018
single player was fun

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>>383756568
Wew lad

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>>383753076
>dat 40k tears
Nothing personnel kiddo

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>tfw you care more about ITEHATTS than you care about 40k lore because they'll ITEHATTS will fuck it up less

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>>383770357
>If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device becoming cannon

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>>383770357
I didn't realize it was literally typed out even in the epub. I always thought that image was an approximation. Neat.

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>>383770795
So Kitten and his affair with a Tau now canon?

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>>383771356
TAAAAUUUUU

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>>383771715
I think you're looking for this.

THOUSAND SONS DID NOTHING WRONG

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>>383773028
>tfw too INT for WIS

>>383753076
You forgot
>Best boy Magnus showing up and kicking all sorts of ass. Permanently fucked up space wolfs and then proceeded to kick a lot of blue ass

Noob question: Are there new stories being written? Where can I find them?

>>383773742
Not really no. The World Spirit of Fenris kicked his ass, the population of Fenris is mostly fine and pure, and with the Primaris they will have not trouble rebuilding.

>>383773870
Constantly.

8th Edition adds a fair bit of lore, the Horus Heresy is being written out for better or worse, and Black Library churns out material at a constant pace.

So go here
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2F%23F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
And you will find a ton of content.

>>383773742
Magnus has seen the impending civil war and tried to stop it by kicking blue ass, a real human bean.

>>383753076
>>one of the Primarchs returns to the Imperium
>>Cadia explodes and the Eye of Terror spans almost the entire galaxy
source

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>>383773997
>Horus Heresy is being written out

>>383773997
How the fuck do you write OUT the Horus Heresy?

>>383753076
>>DoW3 is shit and flops

Every time people bitch about videogames when shit becomes stagnant or changes the formula i always think back to this episode and laugh

https://youtu.be/irCpiVqtCP0?t=1m25s

honestly this sums up /v/

I hope to god it's not just Papa Smurf they're bringing back
Vulkan, Rogal Dorn and Leman Russ when?

>>383774165

"Gathering storm"

It's really fresh content, like in the last few months. Guilliman has been revived with the help of a newborn Eldar god Y'nnead. Also, there are new super-super-soldiers called the Primaris space marines. It's really fascinating stuff.

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>Cawl introduced to setting
>Most interesting character in the recent storyline by miles
>The only non Edgy-Chaos, Boy Scout-Guilliman Bitch, or *~Girl-Soldier~*, introduced in multiple books
>Personally responsible for moving the story forward by being on hand to fight off Abaddon, destroy Cadia, raise Guilliman, create the Primaris, create new wargear, and bring the AdMech faction from obscurity into light
>"Fuck the police, I'm improving upon the Emperor's designs, and you can't call it tech-heresy because Guilliman accepts it. I might even make my own fucking Marines, shit I might even recreate some of the now Traitor Chapters as loyal subjects. I can almost literally do whatever I want."

>FW delays the AdMech book yet again, even though that shit was announced over a year ago
>GW shits on AdMech list, has no overt plan to release their new codex before the end of the year, has no overt plan to continue Cawl's story as a character
>No AdMech video game ever ever ever
>Dragoons still have one of the worst point-to-dollar ratios in the fucking game

>I'm not a robot

>>383774371
>new super-super-soldiers called the Primaris space marines
Shiieeet, as if 40k needed another bunch of completely OP characters. Maybe they'll need them tho if the Eye of Terror is spilling all over the place. Why not revive Sanguinius tho? He was the most powerful Primarch.

>>383760094
kek

>>383774490
because BAs are fags

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>>383753076
>Cadia explodes and the Eye of Terror spans almost the entire galaxy

Good

As all life is born to die, so all men are born to decay. There can be no succour in this world. As the centuries drag past our cultures will fade, just as our bodies waste and our passions cool as the winter of life approaches.

In time our mightiest cities shall crack and crumble, and our lofty ideals shall grow weary and jaded. For what are our achievements if not the follies of pride and ignorance?

All shall be forgotten with the passing of years. There will be no exceptions.

For who amongst us can escape the predations of time? Whom amongst us is beyond the inevitability of decay? That which is young can only grow old. That which is whole and sweet can only shrivel and sour. Nothing is permanent and nothing may remain without blemish. It is the fate of all things that they are bound to time, and time is the twin of decay.

So bend a knee, all of this world. Bend a knee all who would embrace their fate and thereby rise above it. Rise up, give in, surrender yourselves to the master of this world.

Father Nurgle is our sovereign and lord, and whether it be sooner or whether it be later, he will claim all in time.

And so this is how the world shall end; not with fire and tempest, but with the collective sigh of failed passions and lost hope.

>>383774561
Fuck you :^)

>>383774490

Yeah I agree that the Primaris marines are a really retarded idea.

And Sanguinius is stone cold DEAD, killed by the arch-traitor Horus. Guilliman was merely mortally wounded are encased in a stasis field on Macragge to preserve his life. He got better now. So far nothing in 40k can really revive the truly dead.

>>383766558
Trollzyn strikes again

>>383774604
>Guilliman was merely mortally wounded are encased in a stasis field
Oh yeah I forgot about that. My nigger Sanguinius was still the coolest Primarch of them all.

Is the followup novel to Dark Imperium out yet?

I need my Robobutt Girlyman fix

>>383774563
>Father Nurgle is our sovereign and lord, and whether it be sooner or whether it be later, he will claim all in time.

Tzeentch says hi.

>>383774451

The problem is Cawl itself is too liberal with tech to the point is clear as fuck someone in the AdMech will try to stab him in the back and we are going to get another civil war in Mars.

I like him tho, he is neat

>>383774490
Guilliman just got poisoned. Sanguinius got killed so hard it travelled through time and mentally fucked up every Blood Angel ever. It takes more than a shiny new suit to come back from that.

>>383774563
>reddit spacing

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>>383769310
>Cannonesses are usually old and hideous
Cannonesses are usually cougar looking,adept of dick stepping.

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>>383774735
>Sanguinius got killed so hard it travelled through time and mentally fucked up every Blood Angel ever

>>383773890
>the population of Fenris is mostly fine and pure,
The population of Fenris is mostly dead, he destroyed the cure against the wulfen mutation and killed a lot of important people in the space wolfs ranks.

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>>383753076
>one of the Primarchs returns to the Imperium
>Cadia explodes and the Eye of Terror spans almost the entire galaxy
so what does it mean, exactly?
also
>Spacehulk Deathwing
>install it thinking it'll be some sweet ass classical SH gameplay
>it's easy, slow, and boring as shit
>for some reason it's aliased as fuck
>turn on AA
>it turns the game into mayonaisse
>mfw

>>383773028

Magnus was a vainglorious fool that thought that he was smarter than everybody, including The Emperor. He thought no one could get one over him, that there is nothing he could not predict, His fall is entirely his fault.

A shame his legion had to suffer for his stupidity.

>>383773890
>implying Chadmarines will fit in with the Space Wolfs

Same deal with the Dark Angels and the Blood Angels, Im waiting for GW fuck up excuse

>>383774982
>being this much of a brainlet

Magnus is clearly too smart for you

>>383774762
wew this meme is still posted?

>>383774728


This. Cawl's and Gulliman's fast-and-loose treatment of the Cult Mechanicus and the Empirial Cult are going to lead to a second civil war, and it's gonna be hilarious.

What is wrong with DoW3? It seemed promising in the preview material.

>>383774982
But his legion was the best, so good that all the other Primarch had to go to the Emperor crying
>Magnus and thousands sons OP nerf please
And then Magnus and his sons where nerfed

>>383775280
>It seemed promising in the preview material.
lol

>>383775154

>"Durr, I can't break into the webway, I guess I killed 900 of my subjects for nothing"

>LOL here have some ruinous powers for free, kid

>"Gee thanks friendly warp demon! There is no way this could possibly go wrong, for I, Magnus the Red, could never be tricked! Here I go to Terra!"

He's so smart he went all the way around to being a moron again.

>>383774728
>>383775224
I'm not even saying that's wrong. Maybe it'll never become an issue, maybe it will.

I'm just saying it's an *actually* interesting thing in the setting, instead of just more Emperor Daddy Issues, and they don't actually seem to give two shits.

Like, honestly, given the choice between another Daemon Primarch waking up and coming to fight Guilliman or Mars entering Civil War, what do you want to see more?
Okay, maybe you can't decide, maybe they both seem either important or completely unimportant to you? Then wouldn't that at LEAST mean that both things should be getting attention, and not just one?

>>383775370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72t2_jpe7Jc

>>383775306

Yeah, and those powers came at the price of bargaining with demons. During the burning of Prospero it wasn't the Space Wolves that truly ended the Thousand Sons, it was their pet demons and their own powers turning on them.

>>383775429

I would definitely choose to see another schism on mars. That's what made the Horus Heresy so great, the TRAGEDY of it. The wasted potential, brothers fighting brothers. Another big spooky spiky demon coming by to wreck shit up FOR THE EVULZ just isn't as interesting, strory-wise.

>>383775325
What?

>>383775429
>I'm not even saying that's wrong

Me too, I think is neat for one AdMech to said "mm maaaybe our tech aint so hot shit, lets fix it for the best"

I would love for someone like Fulgrim or Perturabo to taint the AdMech and create another Schism of Mars

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>>383753076
>Where did it all go wrong lads?

3rd edition, everything went downhill after that. You got :
- Simplistic, shitty codex for brain damage players
- boring, over-simplified rules
- 2GRIM2DARK
- Epic was gutted and Gorka Morka was murdered
- You don't like playing SPESS MEHREENS ? Better find a new hobby then !
- Price of plastic minis start exploding
- Fuck the background

And the final nail in the coffin : the majority of customers (at the time, mostly young adults) turned to 12 year old kids screaming for more stupid space marines shit.

>>383775708

Or, more shortly: Matt Ward happened.

>>383775605
See what I mean?
But they just don't give a shit about that. They're just gonna make more Ultramarines-brand Primaris Reiver Marines, and they're gonna re-release Death Guard even though they already fucking just had a Primaris v. Death Guard release in the Dark Imperium box, and we're gonna watch spiky-vomit-covered Mortarion slap dicks with sparkly-clean-Aryan-Guilliman for an entire fucking campaign while Cawl, the AdMech, and Mars just have a gentle change in leadership in the background.
We'll be lucky even to get a sidebar discussing the War on Mars, just like the sidebar discussing saving Baal from the Nids. We'll be lucky to have the second most important world in the Imperium get a sidebar that discussing that 'tensions are reaching a boiling point, but no Tech-Priest wants to be the first to draw a line in the sand,' shit, and there will be nothing interesting for months, or even years.
What a fuckin joke.

>>383775697
You don't need chaos primarchs to corrupt Admech. Just have the void dragon do its shit in mars and there will be war.

>>383775974

I just want more love for the Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children.

But the Void dragon would be neat too

>>383775803

Nah Matt Ward began his BS in 2002, 3rd edition was released in 1998.

>>383775974
Is it that the current regime knows about the Void Dragon, and closely guards that terrible secret while acting as supplicants, while Cawl is actually the renegade hero that will save the soul of the AdMech?
Or is it that Cawl is the super-powered slave of the Void Dragon, who will act as his engine of chaos against the current Martian regime, which actually consists of reasonable dudes?

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>>383775915

I really hope it won't be that way, but who am I kidding this is GW we're talking about.

And I really hope they don't go with Mortarion as the main bad guy, he's literally the most boring traitor.

Seriously, can someone tell me why Mortarion fell to chaos? Horus felt betrayed, Perturabo felt unappreciated, Magnus was tricked, Fulgrim was a priffy faggot. But Mortarion? It's literally like he looked in the mirror one day and went

"Let's see... My name is mortarion, I'm known as the Death Lord, my theme is skulls and scythes, my legion is called the Death Guard, I drink poison for fun... *sigh* yeah, I guess I'm evil. Chaos, here I come."

>>383776157

The Void Dragon is literally an antithesis to chaos, though.

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who /death guard/ here

>>383773997
Ok, no, anon, explain.
I and these two >>383774187
>>383774197
deserve to know.
How in the FUCK do you write out the Horus heresy?

>>383776479
Well, I don't mean like capital-C 'Chaos', I just meant more generic, 'fucking up Mars' stuff.
Should've used a different word.

>>383776361
Mortarion is confirmed to be the next Daemon Primarch. He will be the main antagonist of the upcoming Fate of Konor campaign. The next two codices to be released will be Space Marines, then Death Guard, starring Mortarion.
This is straight from GW. There's official art with him in it, there are video trailers with his 'voice', and they've shown pictures of the upcoming releases.
So, get excited. Boring Morty is taking the field. Woo.

>>383776361
>"Let's see... My name is mortarion, I'm known as the Death Lord, my theme is skulls and scythes, my legion is called the Death Guard, I drink poison for fun... *sigh* yeah, I guess I'm evil. Chaos, here I come."

it's pretty much this though. He just defaulted to Horus' side. Then again, Primarchs like Mortarion and Perturabo are written so fucking poorly it's like nobody gave a fuck about them.

>>383776605
>power scythes
This is the dumbest shit ever.

>>383776910
suck me

>>383776951
I would rather powerfist you instead.

>>383776910
They are not that retarded if you reshape them into power warscythes.

>tfw making an oc donut steel army which combines 2 factions but too embarrassed and ashamed to talk about it online

;_;

>>383776798
Hello. I am Alpharius. I may or may not have an identical twin called Omegon.
I joined Chaos but I may or may not be doing it so Mankind can survive.

I may or may not be dead.

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>>383777018
The entire point of a war scythe was that it was a farming tool converted into a weapon of war by sheer peasant ingenuity by straightening the blade and turning the scythe into a makeshift halberd. Why the fuck would elite soldiers specifically use weapons that mimic a farming tool? This is literally anime-tier nonsense.

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>>383753076
>GW literally giving into the "I wisht he plot would move forward" niggers that chime up all the fucking time
The whole new40k shit is just so they can sell primaris marines and get all the marine players to replace all their tactical squads that's fucking it.
>primarch
>literally wrestlled with chaos gods and their chief lieutenants
>stepped on by warlord titans and survive
>hold the ultimate gate against the ENTIRE chaos planetary invasion force on earth single handedly
>toughness 6
I've just had enough...
The great thing about wh40k was the mystery of it. Not knowing what happened to the primarches. Not knowing about what really happened in the horus heresy. And now they just fucking explain everything and bring back fan fantasy shit like some fucking fan fiction.
Eventually they will realize it's all gone to shit and reboot it as AGE OF 40K! and it'll fucking flop just like fantasy.

These people are morons. And so are the vast majority of 40k players who complain about the plot never moving forward.

>>383776652
By writing about 40 books and counting about in no particular order
The daddy issues of Horus, Lorgar, Angron, and a few others.
Magnus' hubris and feeling of disconnect because he's smart you know. The biggest, reddest nerd in the galaxy.
Eldars being dicks.
Sanguinius' and Horus' (b)romance.
Konrad Curze being a prophetic edgelord, and also Batman.
The Lion being a giant autist.
Mortarion being a smelly, hateful NEET. Also a hypocrite, but a good commander.
Vulkan being immortal.
Roboute Guilliman being an overly ambitious accountant.
Malcador telling the Emperor that women might have made better Primarchs.
The Emperor seeing all the Primarchs as nothing more than tools.
The Khan wanting only one thing: to go fast. Also a surprisingly layered, well adjusted character.
Erebus being the cause of everything by being a very obvious evil asshole that everyone trusts.
Kharn being a cool dude and his bromance with Argel Tal.
Lorgar and his sons being practically made to worship the Emperor.

And so on. By the way, we haven't reached the battle for Terra yet.

But here's the kicker. The Heresy was engineered by the Emperor.

>>383777216
Fucking Schrödingers primarch!

>>383776675

Woo... The most boring loyalist vs. the most boring traitor... I can hardly contain my erection...

I guess my dreams of a Russ-Magnus grudge match will remain just that.

>>383761389
dow2 was fucking garbage

>>383777364
>>383776652
Oh, and I forgot:
Leman Russ literally knowing more about the Warp than Magnus himself. This is not hyperbole.

>>383777238

But MUH AESTHETICS

Seriously chaos are all a bunch of weebs

>>383777238
Fear factor. Humanity long tied the scythe with the iconic image of death and the reaper and so they take advantage of it.
Was also the reason why the Nightbringer had the image of the reaper complete with scythe.

Not to mention, farmer weapon or not, if a fucking super powered demonic soldier swings that at people, people are going to die.

>>383753076
How do we save DoW3 lads?

>>383777364
>Malcador telling the Emperor that women might have made better Primarchs.
Female primarchs would be pretty baller desu

>>383777397
Well, Magnus DID actually come back, and there are a lot of rumors of more loyalist Primarchs coming along.
They may be completely unfounded, but the Wulfen book did happen not too long ago.
I don't think it's completely outside the realm of possibility to get Yiffers and Nipple-horns into the ring.
Granted, if it takes two years to happen, then what's the fucking point? The game progresses at such a fuckin glacial pace, I literally don't have the capacity to stay excited for something for that long.

>>383753076
Can't we have the Khan coming back instead?

Jaghatai people!

>>383777238
literally all of the primarchs were dumped/scattered on backwater earth colonies long abandoned to interstellar travel. they ended up being isolated on worlds where humans had devolved into savage behaviors, serfdom, knights n sheet. how is this preposterous? when the emprah found them a lot of them were the most dominant living beings on those planets and picked up peculiarities related to their host planets

>>383777485

>Fear factor. Humanity long tied the scythe with the iconic image of death

Yeah I bet that came in super useful during the Great Crusade when they were fighting ALIENS

>>383775280
>It seemed promising in the preview material.
lol

>>383777460
>Leman Russ literally knowing more about the Warp than Magnus himself.

reeeeee why are space wolves always jerked off

>>383777216

You forgot the part where the first Grand Master of the GK may have been Omegon. That shit is hilarious.

>>383753076
>Eye of Terror spans almost the entire galaxy
wut

>>383777537

>MUH DUVERSITY

Tumblr, please leave

>>383777596
How about giving a more detailed answer instead of just going 'lol'? This is the first time I heard that DoW3 failed.

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>>383777640

>>383777364
>But here's the kicker. The Heresy was engineered by the Emperor.

WHY.
Why in the ever loving hell would he do that!?
DIdn't he just conquer Terra and most of the galaxy by himself/with his primarchs.
Why the hell would he want to suddenly want half of his work fall into chaos?
How in the fuck is this logical in any way shape or form!?

>>383777660
it's an utter piece of shit and I'm honestly surprised that you couldn't tell it was going to be from the instant you laid eyes on it

>>383777593
IIRC the Nightbringer puts fear of the reaper (so the scythe is fearsome because it's Nightbringer's weapon) into every race except Orks, unless that has been retconned out.

>>383777640
Correct me if I'm it was Eldrad being a dick as usual, wanted to genocide all the knife ears so Ynnead comes to life, but he failed and fucked up with the eye of terror spilling everywhere.

>>383753076
>Gdubs best IP at the moment is the only one they abandoned and loosened creative control over
Really makes you think

>Where did 40k go wrong
Rogue Trader

>>383777593
If it didn't then the long pointy bit of the scythe swung by super roided soldiers sure as shit did.

>>383774451
>Waiting on Fires of Cyraxus for over a year

It's been hell, I just want to see the Tau fucking lose damnit.

>>383768740
don't fucking get me started mate

>>383777768

actually you're 100% on the money, I forgot about that. I take back everything.

>>383777782
>Rogue Trader

The P&P RPG or the first edition 40K ?

>>383777781
No.
In a surprising twist, Abaddon the (h)armless managed to destroy couple of Necron pylons on Cadia and split the planet in half, thus cuasing the eye of terror to expand and creating a giant rift splitting the galaxy.

And while all this happened, the guard fought and gave no ground and their planet gave up before their own will did.

>>383776910
>not the chainhammer
>chainflail

>>383777712
I'm surprised they managed to fuck it up, I thought you couldn't botch it any worse after DoW2.

>>383776157
You know, i'd actually like it if the Void Dragon somewhat serves/follows the Emperor now. Stockholm syndrome lol.

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>>383769256

From the new stormcast codex

>>383777878
Cadians have more balls than Cadia itself.

>>383777660
All development on the Necron dlc was halted in favour of fixing the game. When a company has to stop working on something that brings in more money like that it's a pretty clear sign they fucked up. Mass Effect Andromeda did the same thing recently.

>>383777935
Surprisingly enough they managed to enrage both what little fans dow2 had AND the real dow fans.

Luckily the mods for the good dow are choice, try those if you are hungry for some dawn of war

>>383777878

LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE PLANET BROKE BEFORE THE GUARD DID!

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>>383777397
Nah, don't worry. Russ is fairly popular and a ton of content surrounding Magnus' hate boner for the Wolves.

Its just that thematically, Mortarion goes well with Roboute since they are both fairly boring, but opposite characters. Both are depicted as competent commanders but with a difficulty to bond with the rest of their brothers. And yet where Guilliman is the empire builder, Mortarion is decay and corruption.

But Fulgrim will probably arrive first, he stirred when he learned Bobby was back.

>>383777537
His point was less dick waving and measuring or something. Probably was just a bone to add strong female characters potential. Not that those are lacking.

>>383777602
The wolves literally worship a warp entity that is not a daemon, the World Spirit of Fenris, that gives them their prophetic and magic powers. Its also capable of purifying daemonic artifacts, of teaching them what is good in the Warp and what is not.

>>383777703
Because, and I quote Laurie Goulding, his plan is so complex your feeble mind cannot understand it, but the literal and figurative tools he created could not even do their job for five minutes without him. Pic related.

>>383776798
The only Chaos Primarchs that get sympathy from me are Magnus, Lorgar and probably Horus. The rest are just retarded.

Redemption arc for Magnus and Lorgan incoming.

alpharius/Omegon is still a loyalist in my mind.

>>383778008
Does DoW3 even have something like Last Stand? That's what I want really.

>>383778080
lol it's even worse than you think

>>383778008
Muh no true scotsman fallacy.

Its possible to enjoy both games, you know.

>>383777942

The twist is that the Void Dragon has no intention to do anything, he just finds Mars comfy and likes sleeping on his pile of tech.

>>383778142
It's possible to have brain damage but most of us don't

>>383778041
>Redemption arc for Magnus and Lorgan incoming.
lolno. Magnus is depicted as consistently wrong at every turn, and Lorgar is irredeemable.
>alpharius/Omegon is still a loyalist in my mind.
Alpharius probably fell. Jury's out on Omegon but he's most likely pretending. All because they worked to make the Heresy happen, and because half the primarchs fell.

>>383777485
Motherfucker, if they fucking punch a normal person they're going to end up with insides that resemble slaughterhouse slurry. And that's not even using a powerfist. Also I only liked Warhammer and 40k because the aesthetic has always been fucking great. Oh, it turns out Dawn of War was a fucking fantastic game that may have been a shitty game for the competitive types but was probably the most fun i've had with an RTS since Age of Empires 2 or that one game with a clockwork cover that I never remember the name of that let you fight against mech genies.
Fuck Eternal Crusade not coming out.

>>383753076
I'm honestly glad the plot is finally moving forward. I am rooting for the Imperium to win after all. Now, bring back the Lion and Dorn.

I just wish the games were as good as the setting. The latest games have all sucked. I'm still waiting for the Ultimate Apocalypse mod to add Campaign support for SoulStorm.

>>383777872
First edition. I'm saying it's always been trash.

I don't really mean it, but I've never really liked 40k. Just a few parts of it.

Dark Eldar and Imperial Guard are the only factions that feel somewhat interesting.
Oldcrons were okay.

Orkz used to be better when the setting took itself less seriously, and could be important on a scale smaller than "spores everywhere can't win grimdark foe".
The Tyranids are a better grimdark foe, but GW is stupid for setting them up to be as powerful as they are. It both makes moving the plot forward hard, as well as is a generally awful idea in the event of not moving the plot forward.
Tau are very well designed aesthetically, they just don't really fit at all, before or after the grimdarkening of the Ethereal caste.

Everything else is mediocre.
Space marines in particular are a fucking annoying as a main faction. They just can't be interesting as they are. And all Gdubs does is make them less and less interesting.

Also what their fans accept is bullshit.
Fuck the smurfs.

Remember when the Dreadknight came out?
And everybody laughed when it was that horrible?
Everyone has kinda come to expect that level of quality everywhere.

Fuck even making the Grey Knights their own army is an exemplar decision of GW's stupidity.

>>383778214
DoW2 being a different game does not make it bad. It certainly has design problems, but it remains an enjoyable game on its own right.

>>383778080
No. Which is surprising, and should be easy enough to add considering the mechanics of the game.

>>383774451
You forgot.
>GW promises every model will be usable in 8th
>AdM Secutari Hoplites and Peltasts are the only models to not get no new rules just so they csn put them innthe next imperial armour book
I have 40 models that are literally unusable until they release a book that has been delayed for over a year.

>>383778262
>that one game with a clockwork cover that I never remember the name of that let you fight against mech genies
Rise of Legends?

>>383770185

No? He got sucked into Trazyn's museum of fun.

>>383753076
>40k
New lore that isn't brain meltingly bad, stuff is happening
Every game released in the past 5 years is liquid dog shit

>WHFB
Ruined the setting with age of shitmar, so they bring out fantasy marines and rename all the races to be copyright (the end times books sucked too).
TWW is the best total war game since FotS, vermintide is doing well so is mordheim.

It's like they only have enough character points for one or the other.

>>383778369
DoW2 isn't bad because it's different, it's bad because it's a fucking pile of shit. It's a limited shitty game with terrible mechanics.

>>383778372
Oh fuck, I forgot about that.
God damnit.
They even took the time to add fucking Dark Mechanicus models from 30k into the 40k FW Chaos book, but they didn't add the ACTUAL PRE-EXISTING 40K MODELS to the game yet.
I'm fuckin glad I've just been using Rangers as counts-as Hoplites and I didn't waste the money on the upgrade kits.
I feel for your, anon.

When the fuck are they gonna treat AdMech right?

>>383778246
>Magnus is depicted as consistently wrong at every turn
A b-broken clock is right twice a day, you'll see!

>>383778041
I feel a little for Angron.
No matter what, that was a dick move by the Emperor.

>>383778409
How is Total War Rome?

>>383778369
DoW2 is like an okay singleplayer mod for DoW.

DoW2 skirmish and multiplayer and the general gameplay when you're not playing a moba of a squad of hero units in singleplayer was like a version of Company of Heroes that took a hard look at every single thing Company of Heroes did right, and then altered all of them to be shit.

>>383778452
And yet it has a good to decent campaign, overall good voice acting, fairly workable mechanics for what it offers.

So you don't like it because its not DoW. Even as it failed to please you, at least they tried something different and delivered a decent, enjoyable game.

>>383778585
I don't know why Emps couldn't just send his soldiers down and decimate whoever Angron's fighting.

>>383778041
>Lorgar
What are you smoking? Lorgar is the literal cause of the HH without him everything would have been fine he's the worst primarch.

>>383778367
Dude, I got a buddy who actually plays the tabletop. Guy's a full spectrum warrior but he's alright. Fucker likes turning Necrons into thinking, feeling space egyptians instead of cold, emotionless machines that want you off their fucking lawn. But i'm not heavy into lore so maybe I'M wrong.
>>383778392
Thanks man. I couldn't remember the title. Red Alert, Tiberemum Sum and Dune 2000 were fucking great. I really miss RTS.

>>383778595
You mean 2 or one?
Because i am curious about 2.

>>383778657
No, objectively wrong. It's a fucking terrible game that everyone hates because it is so bad that not even tyranids could make people see past how fucking stupid and shitty it is.

>>383761389
Dow 2 was fucking Diablo 3, while coop was fun mp was completely garbage, Dow3's mp was much better but hated cuz it's not diablo clone. Fuck new Dow fans.

Dow1 with dlcs is still the best.

>>383778750
Goddamn you have a serious hate boner. I agree its flawed, but not everyone hates it. If for no other reason than the Last Stand.

What was the whole thing during the Hours Heresy books about an empire Secundus where Guilliman elected Sanguinious to be the new leader because they thought the emperor dead or some shit?

>>383778775
It's absolutely flabbergasting that Relic just CANNOT build upon the success of DoW1, but keep fucking it up each time. What the actual fuck are they on about?

>>383778409
TWW is decent. I think Attila managed to be a bit better(if we ignore the optimization).

Mordheim is bad.

>>383778595
It's very good. Aged quite a bit but there are some great mods for it. Still great in vanilla for being comically ahistorical in hilarious ways.

>>383778712
Rome 2 was abysmal at launch but became acceptable later on.
Battles are a bit too slow and a lot of the units are too similar.
Also spaghetti line meta is pure fucking trash if you play MP(or use it to abuse the AI I guess).
Pretty much outshone by Attila in every aspect, but the rise of Rome is such a fucking amazing period it still works.
Buy only on sale, but play it.

>>383778680
I played the TT like ten years ago.
It's just a silly re-write that doesn't make much sense for any reason, and clearly just rips off the Tomb Kangz out of laziness.
The tyranids show that a race without individual personalities can work(except for the previous mention of how they are scaled too large).

Newcrons are okay. That's all they are.
Oldcrons were decent.
There is less reason for the transition than nearly any other race-change GW have ever done.

>>383778945
I still can't comprehend how much worse CoH2 is to the original either.
Like I literally can't comprehend it.
They should play very similarly and be close to one another in quality but while I could play the first game forever, playing the second game just fucking disgusts me.

>>383778945
>just make a combination of good things that made DOW1 and COH1 to make DOW3
>proceeds to do SC clone
10/10

>>383778939
Precisely that. Bobby G is an empire builder, and Sanguinius embodies the virtues of the Imperium better than anyone else.
So Bobby played kingmaker in order to stabilize the Imperium because the Ruinstorm made things difficult, and because he wanted to throne but could not hope to rally others behind him.

It obviously fell apart before it truly began when they learned that the Emperor was still alive.

>>383778945
idk man, dow1 was so successful that they went mad ape and thought that anything they create will sell well, first they removed rts skeleton and replaced it with dumb ass diablo combat and movement but with small unit count and no base building, and then they created dow3 where they keep diablo combat/movement, brind bases back (but without turrets/energy generators/mines) and removed covers for no reason what so ever, it's now diablo clone with much bigger armies and retarded moba gamemode. At least they added anihilation but it's too late since game is dead.

At this point only remaking dow1 with few new armies and units could save series.

>>383778452
DoW2 is great you dick sucking autist.

>>383779121
Have you played Diablo my man?

>>383779121
Why do you people always demand remasters and remakes?

Can you literally only ever enjoy one game but with a new coat of paint from time to time?

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>>383779184
yeah and gameplay in dow2 and dow3 are very similiar since you have to micro to avoid aoe attacks, starcraft is too big in scale to compare to dow2, but for dow3 it may be even better example than diablo

>>383778958
I mean there's nothing wrong with a race of terminators that just wants to go back to bed.i know i'm meming but I hope you get me. Also I never played the Total War games for the same reason I never played Supreme Commander. Because the scale's too big for a brainlet like me.

>>383779273
because i want more people to enjoy it and also want not dead multiplayer, also new better graphics and not crashing game after single alt+tab (even in windowed mode) would be great. Also pathfinding need to be remade from scratch.

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>>383753076
It went wrong when gameworkshop decided to never allow an actual warhammer videogame.

>>383779273
I don't think it's so outlandish to demand a sequel that actually builds upon what made the previous game FUN and beloved by the community instead of tossing shit out in the name of muh innovashun, thus ruining it.

>>383778958
>Mordheim is bad.
You are bad. Mordheim is the best SRPG released since forever.

>>383778905
>>383779180
>plebes

>>383779407
There's a difference between a sequel that build upon the existing mechanics and a remake/remaster. Plus most people will just not buy the new game since its more of the same.

>>383779375
Fair enough, except that RTS is not a genre that sells and remaking games will not change that.

I guess that Relic have some pressure from the management to "branch out" (read: casualize) because they don't have faith that a pure "hardcore" RTS would sell.

But I'm convinced that if you make a really good RTS people will buy it, there is a market for this and I think a lot of people are looking for good strategy games to buy. It feels like because of the MOBA/assfaggots wave of games devs have lost faith in traditional RTSes, and true, a lot of them have sold really badly, but many of those recent RTSes are also not very good. I think SC2 proved that a traditional RTS can be successful in the modern era, yes it's blizzard, but still.

I like Relic and I know they can make good games, so it really pains me to see them do this to themselves.

So Corvus Corax is the 'literal who?' Primarch?

>>383779812
People in general buy games that are fun.

>>383779854
SC2 is so succesful Brood War made a limpdicked comeback and Blizzard will be selling a remaster of it.

I'm convinced most RTS fans will not buy a copy of games that redo the same thing old games did anymore than they buy the new different games that come out. Its not like the genre is bereft of releases, it just fails to find a market.

On the other hand, accusing MOBAs of killing the genre is just a disingenuous boogeyman.

>>383780083
SC2 still sold a ton of copies, so not calling it successful is just wrong. It had a major impact. I mean, I fucking hate it personally, as I'm a BW fan, but yeah, it showed that RTS can still be very much financially viable.

I'm convinced people will buy a RTS that is genuinely good, and that is a much better path than what Relic has chosen in making so many decisions that piss off the fans of their games.

>>383771356
no, this is NOT fucking canon

>>383779630
It just isn't fun somehow.
Like it's decent were it a MP platform.
It's literally just playing the old TT again.
Which doesn't make the best video game.

I don't mean it's very bad. It's just an overall negative experience.

>>383779320
There is nothing wrong with them as a concept.
It's the delivery that is fucked beyond belief.

Total War games and Supcom aren't really that large scale.
What in particular do you not feel comfortable about with them?
Total War especially is very low skill smooth ride.

>>383779761
>t. loud minority

>>383780309
DoW2 failed to live up to its predecessor and that's all that really matters. They ruined all the huge awesome battles and put in snorefest "muh tactical battles" shit.

>>383753076
Nowhere because 8e is fucking dope.

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>Space Marines

>Are the elite of elites, one in a billion will have the chance to be selected

>Among the Space Marines there are the elites, who are offered the finest equipment

>Of those offered the finest equipment, only the most elite can even begin to be considered for the most elite chapter

>Standing above these, are the elites.

>>383780309
>the majority of people liked dawn of war 2
>which is why it was a failure critically and commercially
What's your motivation here? Just making shit up for fun?

>>383779935
Yes. Casual games. In droves. And currently, twitch bait.

Remaking DoW will not lead to a revival of the genre, nor will it lead to incredible sales. Because there apparently is no market for it.

>>383780202
D3 was very viable financially. Do you see people hailing it as the second coming? No. Its a good game that never could live up to the hopes of the community.
SC2 is the same. Its initial numbers are born of hype for a sequel for a beloved game. Its relative staying power owes more to the brand than anything else.

Face it, until a truly new game comes out that is well thought out, mechanically appealing to stream and deep enough to create hype, its not happening. A genuinely good RTS is not a remake, a remaster, or the same game but with slightly different mechanics the way SC2 was meant to be.

>>383780507
It was not a critical failure, and Sega alleged to good sales being the reason for DoW3

>>383780496
to be fair there are trillions of humans. There's plenty of room for quintuple elite units

>>383780650
It was a commercial failure and Sega was just trying to wring some cash out of an IP they just got done buying with a quick little mobile-quality sequel in name only. Luckily for us and games in general they failed so utterly that everyone involved is definitely going to lose their jobs if they haven't already

>>383780496
New lore has it that the Primaris might become a problem in the future since Cawl toes the heretek line a little too hard, and is only getting worse.

Other than that, they are not so much the new elite as they are more bang for your buck.

>>383777364
>>383777703
>>383778036
>But here's the kicker. The Heresy was engineered by the Emperor
I'm stupid and apparently missed this, in what books was this intimated?

>>383780824
Master of Mankind, IIRC.

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>>383763173
When a space marine veteran infamous for his anger and contempt for everything and everyone remarks that a woman "should have been a Sister of Battle", you know she's waifu material.

>>383780776
It's CnC4 all over again. RIP, fucking RIP. Why does this keep happening to my favorite genre?

>>383780297
Thousands upon thousands of units in Total War (as I remember) and SupCom being gigantic unit blobs that were visually bland and uninteresting. A popcap around 200 is a really good number for me. Maybe that's just because that's the way it used to be. I seem to remember 90s RTS capping around 100, though.

BUT GUYS

WHEN IS THE LION COMING BACK?

>>383775502
And still they were kicking so much furry ass albeit the possessions.

>>383774490
Papa Sang is dead.

>>383781043
Probably will happen. But not for a while, he's yet to get a HH model and its not like he's all that relevant in current 40k.

Dorn when though?

>>383781023
>not being able to appreciate Total Annihilation-esque swarms of robotic underlings that all throw themselves into death at your command, leaving a gigantic battlefield strewn with smoldering metal carcasses
Apex pleb.

>>383780938
For the same reason that hollywood keeps making terrible remakes of old movies that end up losing them millions of dollars. They're completely out of touch with why people play games or watch movies and the entire process is run start to finish out of a board room with the plan literally being "it has the name of X franchise, X franchise products always sell well, so this will sell well no matter what we do"

Then someone comes along and is like "I have a pitch that sounds good about how to "breathe new life" into X franchise hire me to make it" because the other option was "hi I'm a big fan of X franchise and I want to do exactly what we did before but a little better". To someone who never liked X franchise the new life thing seems way better than the same old thing and there you go, dead franchise.

Luckily for us companies are striking out so often on these reboots and indie games that actually play like classic games people liked keep winning big, so even the most die hard retarded companies (bioware) are starting to figure out why they keep losing tons of money/starting to go out of business and make room for new companies that understand their audiences

>>383781146
Most probably next Codex release.

>>383781129
It is rumoured that "everything you know about the fight onboard the Vengeful Spirit will change."

Baal was recently attacked, but kinda saved by both Bobby G and Ka'Bandha. And Khorne professed an interest in him that has yet to abate.

So who knows.

>>383781256
>And Khorne professed an interest in him that has yet to abate
Sangy daddy was supposed to be his main man, but he was to pure.

>>383781363
He was a literal mutant.

>>383753076
DoW campaigns suck ass, writing is dry, serious and boring like the rest of the games. Squads suck ass compared to individual units like in wc3. Unit models are tiny, wc3 does this better. List goes on, game is just fucking boring.

>>383781446
>he likes nintendo64craft 3

>>383780710
Of course there are trillions of humans.
A vague number for Space Marines are
1000,000. 1000 per chapter of 1000 chapters.

I said a chance to be selected. Fluff puts it at like what? 20%? Probably lower.
So we'll go with that as a high ball.
One in five billion.

One million of those.

5000000000000000

So that's an estimated five quadrillion.

And even my original post implies one quadrillion, which is an exaggeration.

So yes, I know there are trillions of humans.

Yes, amongst even one million you will have elites and a few even above that. But those few are very silly for existing.

And those above that are straight up ridiculous.

>>383781023
Depends on how the game plays.

Total war can be like 4000 for one army on really big(sometimes modding necessary) unit sizes.

However they are split up into 20 units.
In the very rare occurrence that you'll have more than one full stack you can get up to 40.
40 is much less than 200.

You can make a line in deployment mode and move and engage with it as a group.

Total War battles are really simple. Add in the fact that you can pause and they're stupidly simple.
It's a miracle that there is still any tension.

Even competitive multiplayer games are squish ten melee units together, and micromanage two-three cavalry units as one group together, occasionally switching to something specific every ten-twenty seconds to press a button.

Supcom is different, as it's really a macro game.
And while there are huge unit counts, and you can micro each individually(theoretically), macro play will shit all over micro. And your 220 Air superiority fighters will again have a box dragged around them and engaged with the enemy through just one more mouse click.

Here is an example of TW gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz1MAtw2FL0
The guy is pretty normie and annoying with how much he talks, but he's good at the game.
Also note that TW has more to offer than just Warhammer.

AoE 2 with its 200 unit cap is much harder

>>383781443
PURE!

>>383781573
>1000,000
>1000
>,000
nigga is u retard?

>>383780428
>better and more focused singleplayer
>Last Stand
>much improved and more varied voice acting
>better graphics, effects and engine that actually has true line of sight instead of units shooting through fucking mountain ranges like DoW1
>micromanagement and much more tactical depth to the gameplay at higher levels
>it's shit because I'm some high res compstomping autist who just turtles 3 hours a match and prefers engagements to be giant meatgrinders

UA panders to retards like you, stick with it champ

Why can't they just make another Space Marine styled game?
really confused why every dev who touches warhammer immediately goes to multiplayer, when there is a wealth of good stories that they could just adapt to a game

also horus heresy game when? make it the battle of calth, make it the burning of prospero, make it the battle of signus prime
unless GW are saying no one can touch HH until it's finished, I really don't get why no one has tried

>>383781621
He was a winged vampire with anger issues. And he wanted Horus' dick.

>>383781652
Yeah I didn't remain consistent, whatever.
1,000,000.

There you go.

Next comment please.
inb4
>reddit spacing

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>>383777364
>Female Primarchs

Stop, my dick can only take so much

>>383781695
Primarch love is the purest of love cause primarch s have no equals. There is only the unquestionable truth of the Emperor above them and humanity is his eternal waifu.

>>383781687
Multiplayer is what sells, and corporations want big numbers. Do you want Space Marine 2: Destiny Edition?

HH game hopefully never. Its too much of a clusterfuck.

>>383781787
Probably why people such as yourself should not be in charge of decision-making.

>>383778958
Mordheim was great fuck you.

Now the same devs are working on Necromunda and I can't wait to revive my Cawdor.

>>383781774
Go back.

>>383781803
Does not make him pure.

Plus Ferrus/Fulgrim is superior.

>>383781787
those look like shit. literally just school girls. anime school girls.
they need to be overly tall amazonian milf looking ladies.

>>383781803
>unquestionable truth
>the entire issue is they questioned it

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So how has Relic responded to Dow3's feedback and has there been any information on its commercial success or otherwise?

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>>383761173
Yes, Dow2 was completely shit on, the multiplayer was garbage. Don't let stupid revisionists on this board time you otherwise. One good thing was the the single player campaign and redemption was somewhat better. But vanilla Dow2 was shit.

>>383781774
How fucking hard is it for your Reddit-addled ADHD-riddled AFSD-damaged brain to understand that you only need to use ONE LINE BREAK

ONE

LINE

BREAK

>>383781846
I was very excited to play it.
I did and I thought it was all cool.
Until about the fourth mission I did.
It just congealed together.

There was not enough personality to your lads.
Not enough reason to care about individuals or your team as a whole outside of the gameplay.
The gameplay wasn't enough to hold up something when the others pillars were as weak as that.
I played it on the TT and enjoyed it. But I didn't play it that much.

I'm a bit biased against turn based tactical video games though.
The only one I truly enjoyed was the original XCOM.
Everything since just loses me somewhere along the way.
And among those, Mordheim lost me quite quickly.

>>383782094
Need here is to present the words of your post to be read. Which is subjective to the viewer. I could have also done zero breaks.

Also I don't usually use that many but in the first half of the post I specifically wanted to spell out all the basic multiplications so that no special needs lads would get left behind.

>No decent Warhammer RTS
>No decent Age of Sigmar RTS
>Will never be able to play a nature-themed faction
>DOW3 flopped hard
>Didn't really like Total War:Warhammer

I am cursed to forever admire the setting but never play it.

>every defeat suffered by Abaddon was actually carefully planned and all part of the plan

/tg/ btfo

>>383782267
you could try playing the real thing

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>>383782267
>>No decent Age of Sigmar RTS
>admire the setting

>>383782227
nice spacing reminds me of a site i like to visit

>>383782227
one line break

>>383782329
Depends on how much money he has.

>>383781652
Do you think it's supposed to be a decimal or something?

>>383782227
Why are you writing like a fucking tard? You don't need to enter after every single full stop and you don't need to use nothing but full stops as punctuation.

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>>383768070
>>383768740
>>383769036
>>383769256
>Total war: Warhammer was mostly finished before they pulled this bullshit so they couldn't change it
>one of the most faithful and the best warhammer fantasy game there is
Praise Sigmar

>>383782372
You can buy a starter box, paints, brushes, tools all GW for the price of a current gen console. And you might even have money left over.

I hear that people really didn't like the DoW novels by Goto.

>>383780428
>>383780507
>making shit up
Buttblasted gaylords who didn't enjoy both DoW games. I feel pity of you autists.

40k seems like one of the few things that would benefit from an anime series

>>383782526
Split the difference and get Netflix to work on it?

>DoW2 with better graphics and maybe more units is what everybody wanted
>lets just make a shitty SC2 rip off

Why?

>>383782524
>both
I've got bad news for you...

>>383782458
You are correct. Grammatical tools also have a decently wide range of use, which while all be technically correct; can have somebody read the same thing differently.

>>383782496
MULTI

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I feel the Sylvan in Age of Sigmar is one of the things they did right.

Picture fucking related.

>>383782661
Opinion discarded.

be grateful that you got the god tier games that were dawn of war 1 and dawn of war 2 you massive nigger, do you know how many awesome ip's have yet to get a SINGLE game? or a good game

>>383782736
>dawn of war 2
>anything but utter dogshit tier

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>papa smurf talks to daddy emperor
>emperor straight up tells him he's not a son, but just another test tube soldier with some extra me in them

>>383781880
>dead
>faggot level 9000+1

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Is he canon?

>>383782865
He really should be

>>383782851
Its superiority is objective fact

>>383782865
Yes, but he was not on the Vengeful Spirit. Probably.

Also, a Perpetual.

>>383782865
>hey you big guy don't mess with me I'm from death note

>>383782865
I don't really get why this guy is so much bigger a deal than all the other conscripts who fight things they stand absolutely no chance against at all. He went into a 100% gonna die fight, but so have likely billions of men in that universe.

>>383782827
>gave up on debunking myths
>still has to tip-toe with nobles and inquisition
>writes a codex on social ethics and governance to try to make the imperium less retarded
>realize that daddy is a fag
>realize he is too
>keep on doing what he does best cause he still have ideals
Poor bastard have it hard.

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Reminder that Necromunda: Underhive Wars will be the game that saves the 40k franchise
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-18-game-based-on-warhammer-40-000s-necromunda-announced

>>383783049
> block the path of the one being who just wounded the emperor of mankind
> nothin spessul

>>383783092
>http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-18-game-based-on-warhammer-40-000s-necromunda-announced
>another indie shit game with 40k paint

>>383783092
No gameplay means no reason to hope.

How will they fuck it up?

>>383783168
I figure it will be another shitty tactics-lite game that feels like it was made for iphone and is necromunda in name only.

>>383783131
Yea that's both what I said and what I meant. Half the things in that universe kill IG in a single hit. They still run into it without making much of a fuss.

>>383782585
>DoW2 with better graphics and maybe more units is what everybody wanted
[citation needed]

>>383783295
>dow1 fag aka the reason why 3 is shit

>>383783168
It's 40k Mordheim. Same people.

>>383783241
If it plays like Shadowrun Returns, it might make for a decent game, at least.

>>383782827
>acts pissy at being told that the emperor sees him as a tool and not a son
>but considers his charged creations - the Primaris Marines - to be tools that he doesn't really care for, even though they look up to him

like pottery

>>383783432
Shadowrun Returns gameplay is abysmal.
The games stand on writing and characters and aesthetic, but the gameplay is trash.

>>383761173

Meanwhiile Fantasy, a setting that has been canonically destroyed and completely abandoned by GW, gets Vermintide and Warhammer Total War, two extremely enjoyable and successful games.

It's astonishing that the biggest IP GW posesses continues to get blown the fuck out by an IP that GW barely admits they still own.

>>383783432
Did you know that the reason why that company is called Harebraned Schemes is that they made their engine and then went shopping for a franchise to tie onto it so they could run a kickstarter?

It worked out for them but damn, heartless.

>>383783131
See all of those bodies? Those were some of the ones who blocked the path of the one being who just wounded the emperor of mankind.

>>383783510
doesn't shadowrun returns play just like modern Xcom?

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> Objective: protect the emperor

>>383783510
Which is why I said decent. But then if this is just copypasted Mordheim, I'm not sure I'm interested.

>>383783528
What works works. Didn't know that though.

>>383783516
Not even GW knows what to do with 40k. Conversely, having killed WHFB means the devs are much more free in what they do. And its a medieval setting, very simple to pitch. Nevermind the fact its just TW with a Warhammer skin, or Killing Floor: Medieval Edition.

>>383783660
Yeah but somehow it's much worse.
Less lethality I think is the main problem.
Also there is an action point system that isn't completely balanced, as opposed to modern XCOM's pretty clean two action system.

Shadowrun Returns: Dragonfall is the first game I have cared about the characters and the story of in a long time.
I still hated the gameplay.

>>383783760
There is a mild difference between decent and abysmal.

>>383783760
If you look back at the product after knowing this is makes a lot more sense that the gameplay has nothing to do with shadowrun.

>>383783754
And here comes the Platinum fan demanding Warhammer: Eternity Gate.

Play as Sanguinius defending the final defense of Terra! Engage Ka'Bandha in high flying action! Fight Horus in a galaxy defining, epic encounter!

>>383783918
Even though you're saying this to make fun of him, that still sounds like a great game

>>383782481
I bet the reason GW finally allow TWW to be a thing is because it no longer competes with the tabletop.

AoS plays very different from WHFB.

>>383783835
So long as the writing is good enough, it makes up for bad gameplay. At least to a point.

>>383783989
Well if its rushed out the door and sold for the same price as Korra or Transformers Devastation with similar, its good enough. Calling it great is a stretch.

>>383784120
*similar quality

>>383783358
>dow2 fag aka something that doesn't exist

>>383784016
>GW makes AoS because they judge the setting is spent
>The games show that the setting was fine all along

GW continue to be as out of touch as ever
Meanwhile they give no fucks about the quality of 40k vidya

>>383784120
Yeah I'm glad I played it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRGJsDJQLQ

Just a shame all the combat was terrible to experience.