So regardless of how good you thought it was, can we all agree

It was pure shit, so yeah.
>inb4 "i-it's total return to roots!!!" claims of GenZ shills.

>>383710167
>>383710373
it was better than 4 so it definitely deserves to be a mainline, numbered entry
it was also return to the roots

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>>383711449
>No enemy variety
>No weapon variety
>No replay value
>No mercenaries or extra modes
>Main character is boring as a statue

>Better than 4.

>>383712229
rekt

>>383712229
Everything absolutely correct

>>383712229
Thanks dear anon, i couldn't say it better.

Im playing it at the mo, its ok just had the car fight and now that old bitch is stalking me around the house or some shit.

>>383710167
Why not when it has more in commen with the classics then anything after CV

>>383712470
It's a nice experience but it isn't a good game

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>>383712229
This. RE is at it's absolute best when it's cheesy action horror, not as a youtube bait spook simulator.

>>383710167
It has more business being a mainline entry than either 5 or 6. Perspective aside, it felt more like a RE game than those two

>>383712229
And RE 4 is a shitty action game that has little to do with RE and ruined the series 1 to 3 are better in every way you action fags

>>383712229
And even so, its feels more resident evil than the later games.

>>383712630
But RE 4 has nothing to do with horror.

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>Leon could have had a nice, pure, cute virgin with decent ballistics
>He chooses not to
Why?

>>383710167
>So regardless of how good you thought it was, can we all agree that this game had no business being a mainline, numbered entry?
I will absolutely grant that. Though I did love the game.

Why does /V/ like action shit now? RE is a horror series first. This board has horrible taste

>>383712756
Kek, sure buddy

>>383712630
but RE7 is cheesy

also
>RE7 being sppoky

lol

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>>383712907
RE4 is physical and gore horror. RE7 is spook hose/jump scare horror

>>383713104
>RE is a horror series first

Sure thing kid.

>>383713114
You know having the lame charcters dosin,t make it an RE game

>>383713204
Nah it's not Jack is and they drop that within your first hour of playing.

>>383713214
Every RE has jump scares don't kid yourself and yes RE is a horror series no matter how hard you action fags say otherwise

You may only reply to this post if you've beaten Ethan Must Die
or you need help with it

>>383713280
So you proved my point about RE7? Okay

>>383713478
>buying the dlc

>>383713336
How can you forget Lucas and large Marge? cheesy as hell

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>>383712737
>RE1-3 are not action games
Yeah, survival horror games are well-known for having machine guns and rocket launchers that the player uses to vaporize enemies that have rocket launchers, good thing none of that was in RE1-3.

>>383713614
what the heck did I just tell you, buddy?

>>383712229
What's fucking stupid is Clancy not being the main character. He actually had a personality compared to Ethan. Ethan gets his fucking arm cut off with a chainsaw and doesn't even flinch.

>>383713442
Yeah they have jump scares but RE7 made them a focus and pandered to the spook walking simulator fad which was popular during it's release. Also I never said RE wasn't a horror series I was laughing at your statement that "it's a horror series first" which it isn't, from day one it was a mixture of horror and action complete with bosses.

>>383713654
Lucas? yeah I'll give you that but Marge was just lame.

Am I just old now I don't get the appeal of the action RE games never have never will. And now that RE is back to being a horror game again that I can take sersiouly everyone hates it. Makes me feel old

>>383713718
And so does 7 and like 1 to 3 their horror games so what is your point

>>383713961
Resident Evil was never a game series you could take seriously, and this is coming from the guy crying about the story and RE4 ruining it in the last thread

>>383713954
Marge is the best boss though

>>383714093
My point is that RE1-3 did have rocket launchers and machine guns, and they were always action games from day one. Onimusha used very similar mechanics and had a bunch of demons running around a scary place, it's not horror.

>>383714286
People keep saying that but I thought she was nothing special. A bug that hid in the walls and was pretty easy to put down. Had more trouble with Jack.

>>383710167
that's up to the brand owners to decide, not some pathetic nobody

>>383714123
I could take them more seriously in 1 to 3 everything after 3 felt like a parody 7 tried to be somewhat serious for once and legit horror but for some reason all anyone wants is more retarded action shit and I just don't get it

>>383714519
>Wesker, you're pitiful!
>You say this FAILURE is your saviour?
>RAHBECAH
>It's me Chris!
>Is that you Rebecca?
>Sorry, I'm not used to escorting men!
>You were almost a Jill sandwich!
That's just from RE1 and off the top of my head. There's also the fact that all 3 games ended with the place you were just in exploding, and the only game you really could take seriously being RE3.
RE was never actual horror, it was a homage to B-movies and coined the term Survival-Horror because it had limited item space

>>383714870
And RE 7 is a B horror movie too. I'm not seeing why this dosin,t count. Is it really just becuse of the lack of connection to the old games?

Resident Evil = Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2 = Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3 = Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil: Code Veronica X = Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 0 = Resident Evil 0
Resident Evil: Outbreak = Resident Evil 5
Resident Evil: Outbreak file #2 = Resident Evil 6

Resident Evil 4 = Resident Evil: "something"
Resident Evil 5 = Resident Evil: "something" 2
Resident Evil 6 = Resident Evil: "something" 3
Resident Evil: Revelations = Resident Evil: "something" 4
Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City = Resident Evil: "something" 5
Resident Evil: Revelations 2 = Resident Evil: "something" 6
Umbrella Corps = Resident Evil: "something" 7

Resident Evil: Survivor = Resident Evil: Survivor
Resident Evil: Dead Aim = Resident Evil: Survivor 2
Resident Evil 7 = Resident Evil: Survivor 3

Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles = Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles = Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles 2

Resident Evil: Gaiden = Resident Evil: Gaiden

>it's all fixed now, no more RE4 was a real RE or the same with 7

>>383715131
It's because it takes itself seriously, and before you say it doesn't, look at everything after the mutated Jack fight, and tell me it wasn't trying to take itself seriously. And then the game ending feels like it comes out of nowhere as the final boss was nothing and the ending isn't even RE-esque.

>>383715220
type meant
>no more RE4 ISN'T

It's fun and who cares

jesus fucking christ your autism is making ME embarassed

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>>383715220
Let me fix that for you Anon

Resident Evil = Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2 = Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3 = Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil: Code Veronica X = Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 0 = Resident Evil 0
Resident Evil: Outbreak = Resident Evil: Survivor Files
Resident Evil: Outbreak file #2 = Resident Evil: Survivor Files 2

Resident Evil 4 = Resident Evil: Outbreak
Resident Evil 5 = Resident Evil: 5
Resident Evil 6 = Resident Evil: Outbreak 2
Resident Evil: Revelations = Resident Evil: Revelations
Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City = Resident Evil: Gun Survivor 5
Resident Evil: Revelations 2 = Resident Evil: Revelations 2
Umbrella Corps = Resident Evil: Gun Survivor 6

Resident Evil: Survivor = Resident Evil: Survivor
Resident Evil Survivor 2: CV = Resident Evil Gun Survivor 2: CV
Resident Evil: Dead Aim = Resident Evil: Gun Survivor 4: Dead Aim
Resident Evil 7 = Resident Evil: Biohazard

>>383710167
The game became shit the minute you left the Baker residence.

Jack and his family were a good Texas Chainsaw like cast, but the devs ultimately fucked it up and went black tentacle monsters and the cliché possessed little girl bullshit.

>>383715301
Large Marge was straight up evil dead Lucas was cheesy as hell and funny at times and the evil little girl is a straight up parody of the ring. It's not as. Cheesy as 4 but I would say RE Remake took itself more seriously then 7. This whole is it or is it not RE is bullshit

>>383715978
Marguerite wasn't funny, nor was she cheesy. She was at best cringe-worthy. Lucas was passable but he wasn't an RE character, he felt more like Eddie from Silent Hill 2. And the little girl was taken seriously, negating the shit you said about her, and the reason she's there is because the writer doesn't know what originality means and ripped it off from FEAR

>>383715830
Eh I liked that boat felt more like classic RE then even the house. Especially since it never heled your hand and focused on fighting monsters and exploring

>>383716123
Who the fuck dictates What is a RE character or not?stop fagging around

>>383710167
The mainline entry needed a bit of a soft-boot, after 6 what the fuck could they possibly do that would improve that shit heap?

It needed a restart, and it worked perfectly.

>>383716471
I'm saying he's more like a character out of Silent Hill than a character out of Resident Evil. If that's makes you mad, you have issues.

>>383716641
What exactly did 6 do? It's story was rather disconnected from the rest of the series, other than the Simmons plot and Jake being the son of Wesker, and even then, you could play through the whole game not caring about the former and not even needing to know about the latter. 6's plot was self-contained and would've been a good way to slowly phase out the old cast

>>383712229
>Main character is boring as a statue

Reminder that The funny Leon from RE4 is Dead and even if he comes back to a future RE it will be the robotic no fun Leon from RE6-the movies

>>383710167
It's literally more of an spinoff than fucking 6, so it certainly didn't.

>>383712229
100% correct but I still liked it more that 4

No, the fact that it's mainline shows commitment.

If this was another spin-off it would have been way more half-assed, which it already kind of is so that's saying something.

>>383716890
The current Leon is the actual Leon that the Japanese had written in RE4. And I find him to be okay, still more interesting than every character in REVII

>>383710167
I suppose. I don't think it matters much because Resident Evil 4 was radically different from the rest of the series and that's numbered too. If RE7 should be considered a side game, so should RE4 and every mainline RE game that came after.

>>383712630
>cheesy action horror
Yeah, RE1, 2, and 3 were all about that ACTSHUN weren't they. Bullshit, they were slow-burners that culminated in awesome climaxes, with their share of jumpscare moments.
>>383712229
>no weapon variety
2 Pistols, 2 shotguns, SMG, grenade launcher, knife, flame thrower, Albert 01 not enough for you? RE1 had the pistol and shotgun almost exclusively. Same with 2. More weapons make little sense in a country bayou setting.
>no enemy variety
I'll gvie you that, the molded suck ass. I want zombies and hunters/lickers back. Country Bayou could have had some stellar flora and fauna inspired monsters.
>no replay value
debateable. I've replayed it several times, still having fun.
>no mercs or extra modes
lolwut?
>main character is boring
I wasn't really bothered by this considering Its in a first person perspective.

My only 2 gripes with the game is that molded are boring monsters to fight, and that Mia/Zoey weren't your typical hot as fuck RE babe.

>>383712630
>cheesy action horror
There was lots of that in 7 though. You thought Jack driving circles in his garage was supposed to be scary? Or shooting Marguerite in the vag for extra damage? Or anything Lucas did at all?
It was all "cheesy action horror" anon.

>>383713718
1 rocket launcher to blow up the big bad at the end does not an action game make. We call that shit a "climax".

The whole point of RE7 was that it was a reimagining of the franchise yet again.

If this was just a spin-off it wouldn't mean anything.

>>383717118
>Have to steal Chris RE6 in the Vendetta because they dont know What to do with Leon that didnt involve Muh Ada
>Good
Nah...they remove All the fun.As a Leonfag i found it pretty lame

>Better than RE7 cast
Maybe because Leon have 21 year of development and people only remember the good parts?

>>383718025
>Maybe because Leon have 21 year of development and people only remember the good parts
Stop using common sense!

>>383713718
>Not knowing the Rocket laucher scene is inspired by a B horror movie

>>383717169
>not enough for you?
RE1 had the pistol (as well as another type of the same gun), shotgun, grenade launcher, rocket launcher, knife, colt python, flamethrower. That's 9 weapons, and the grenade launcher has 3 ammo types, meaning 3 different variations of the same gun, while VII has the exact same amount, but has to compensate by having 2 of the exact same gun twice.
RE2 had the knife, pistol (two different pistols, one for Leon one for Claire, as well as a stock attachment), two shotguns, bowgun, the Colt SAA, the grenade launcher, the sub machine gun, 2 desert eagles, a spark shot(exclusive to Claire), a flamethrower, a rocket launcher and a gatling gun. That's about 14 weapons, including variations.
>lolwut
The only extra mode is a hard mode with some shit changed around in the first two houses, with only minimal changes later on. Glorified Arrange Mode, and every other extra mode is locked behind DLC.

>>383718025
I liked Leon when he was first introduced in RE2, because he actually talked to people rather than making noises and saying 'Wuh'.

>>383718254
>and the grenade launcher has 3 ammo types
Just like in RE7. Did you play the game anon or are you just talking shit?

>>383713718
The fuck? One of the unlockable weapons in Resident Evil 1 is the infinite rocket launcher, where you can do just that.

>>383718427
It only had 2 ammo types retard.
Good job at dodging the actual topic though

>>383712713
This. Im 100% convinced that everyone who is retarded enough to claim RE7 isnt more RE than anything after 3 is legitimately retarded and thinks characters make a franchise instead of the design philosophy and mechanics of the games. The perspective change is a minor shift yet again but the real "going back to roots" extends far beyond being scary "again"

There are flaws with the game but not being RE certainly isnt one of them. Complain about the lackluster second half and the bad main characters instead of using the gators instead

>>383718614
Not him but youre retarded if you actually think REmake handled the GR better than 7. REmake has 3 different colors that do different damage to different enemies while RE7 has flame rounds and neuro rounds which work vastly different from eachother

he also forgot to mention the magnum in RE7, meaning REmake has less weapons. Thats also not counting the extra weapons in 7 like the circular saw

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>>383720334
I was talking about Resident Evil 1 in my post, but that doesn't even matter because Resident Evil 2 had more weapons than VII, and that should be something to be ashamed of.

>>383720464
>Resident Evil 2 had more weapons than VII, and that should be something to be ashamed of.

Why? Are you underage enough to think that more weapons= better game?

It was literally made to revitalize the franchise after it turned into pure action game and went full retard with it's story.

If they weren't instant of tying up the fucked up knot that is Resident Evil lore it'd essentially be a soft reboot.

Not a hero WHEN?

>>383720530
I could just say REVII is weaker in all aspects to RE2, as RE2 has more weapons, better and tighter gameplay, actual bosses, better and more weapons, good level design, good characters, a well thought out story, and is overall one of the best RE games to date. REVII is nowhere near as good as RE2 and never will be.
I was just saying the fact that RE2 had more variety is a bad thing for VII

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>>383720757
>I could just say REVII is weaker in all aspects to RE2,
because youre a retarded neckbeard

>as RE2 has more weapons
irrelevant

>better and tighter gameplay
buzzwords and objectively incorrect but ill say I also enjoy that style more

>actual bosses
exact same bulletsponges as in 7 except not as well thought out since even the different versions of jack have actually different strategies instead of "run away, turn around and shoot a few times until it eventually dies)

>better and more weapons
doesnt matter

>good level design,
the only good "level design" in both games are the beginning segments, the difference is that the beginning of RE7 lasts a few hours (until you leave the baker estate completely) while youve beaten the linear shitfest that is RE2 in the same amount of time


>good characters
HAHAHAHA

>a well thought out story,
HAHAHAHA

>and is overall one of the best RE games to date.
The only competition it has is REmake, 7 and MAYBE RE4 if you pretend that the game ends before the salazar fight

>>383721102
>irrelevant
It offers variety
>objectively incorrect
RE2's gameplay is tighter and allows for you to pull off stuff like knife-only no damage runs. You can do that in VII, but it forces you to take hits at times.
>exact same bulletsponges as in 7
Except they were actually hard at times and had a pattern you had to figure out. In VII, there's maybe 2 good bosses in the whole game, and even then they're still trash
>doesnt matter
Variety
>the only good "level design" in both games are the beginning segments, the difference is that the beginning of RE7 lasts a few hours (until you leave the baker estate completely) while youve beaten the linear shitfest that is RE2 in the same amount of time
It took you 3 and half hours to beat the beginning of VII? You shouldn't be allowed to comment on games if you're that fucking shit, and good job at dodging the question by just ragging on RE2.
>HAHAHAHA
I was comparing it to VII
>The only competition it has is REmake, 7 and MAYBE RE4
And proof you don't actually play Resident Evil games, as you grabbed the most generic of generic choices.
Please leave VIIshill, nobody likes you

>>383721553
this garbage doesnt even warrant a response but saying the best games are "generic choices" just proves that youre a retarded contrarian neckbeard that thinks the old style automatically makes the games good

zero is shit, 3 is shit, original re1 is obsolete, code veronicas are stale, RE5 was a shittier 4, 6 was an even shittier 5 etc etc

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>>383721745
Nice reddit spacing by the way. Also, good job at having no argument, as all you're doing is saying 'This is shit because I said so' rather than having facts and opinions to back it up.
Also I call those generic choices because it shows you never actually played any RE game outside of VII and maybe 4. You're the contrarian here as you're only here because you want to dickride RE: FEAR Edition, and trash every other game in the series to one up the worst one in the series.
There's a very good reason a lot of people hate when VIIshills like you invade these threads, and that's because you derail it with your hate for the series.
Please tell me you're a ruse cruise fag as well, and you think HUNK is actually Chris, because that'll also illustrate the fact you never actually played a game outside of VII

>>383722127
>formatting your post is "reddit spacing"

ill never understand this retarded meme but feel free to go back since youre so familiar with the place

>d-durr u n-never even p-played re...

well argued kid, go kill yourself

>>383722313
Because doublespacing is pointless here. When you want to quote something, you greentext, and that divides separate ideas. You're the retard for doing something so pointless.
>well argued kid
Says the guy who's previous argument was just 'Game X is shit because I said so. which means Game Y is the best game ever made'

>>383712737
>>383717169
>1 to 3
1-3 were good for their time, but going back to them now, you realize just how easily you were scared as a kid, and if you replay those and get anything out of them that isn't a feeling of warm nostalgia or appreciation for how much they pioneered, then you're either a giant pussy or someone that likes their comfort zone a little too much.

REmake only worked so well because of how well RE1's environment lended to the claustrophobic atmosphere aspect, but the scare factor still wasn't particularly amazing or well done. RE0 used the same engine with an interesting mechanic and it was mediocre as fuck.

RE4 is the best entry in the entire franchise in that it dropped the pretense of adhering the horror aspect in favor of instead blending the horror with gunplay that was actually satisfying to create tense situations rather than purely scripted events. It is essentially the perfect B-Movie game, and everything about it just worked so well.

This is coming from someone that heavily enjoyed RE7. It was a great callback to the original games and the change the 1st person was a ballsy, but genuinely ingenious way to take the feel of the older games and make them actually scary...but I don't think it's a great idea to stick with this direction. Resident Evil is one of the very, very few franchises that actually adapts it's mechanics around the progression of it's setting and characters rather than the other way around, and I always thought that was kind of neat. It's a franchise not afraid to try new ideas that work around the characters and how they've grown and adapted the world they live in, and I always thought that was a pretty good approach to the franchise (which is also why RE7 has an entirely new protagonist that isn't a trained operative or soldier; it's the only way to make it work,)

Also, the Bakers were more humorous than scary. If they do decide to stick with this direction, they need antagonist creatures that don't talk.

>>383722549
>Says the guy who's previous argument was just 'Game X is shit because I said so

It wasnt an "argument" and you thinking that it was only further proves why "arguing" with you is pointless. Your entire posts are nothing but retarded strawmen ala u never even played it

>which means Game Y is the best game ever made

said who? where are the "because you want to dickride RE: FEAR Edition, and trash every other game in the series to one up the worst one in the series." RE7 defender boogeymen who dont let you feel like the hardcore "fan" (retarded autist) that you are?

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>>383722743
>it wasn't an argument
Then why the hell are you even replying
Your entire posts are nothing but namecalling and shittalking with no substance. I'm just replying to it
>said who
You, when you implied every game in the series was shit except for VII and REmake because you never actually played REmake and only say it's good because that's the popular opinion.
>retarded autist
You're pretty pathetic anon

No.

>>383723135
>You, when you implied every game in the series was shit except for VII and REmake

Where you fucking retarded autist? REmake is one of my favorite games and this retarded strawmanning is the reason nobody gives a fuck about replying to you, not because youre correct. I never said RE2 wasnt a better game as a whole either, Ive simply been debunking your unironically retarded "points" like "RE2 had a better plot" or it having any better level design

>>383721745
>shitting on other re games just because you got btfo'd
take you shit opinions and leave

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>>383723287
>where you fucking retarded autist?
Masterful use of the English language.
>REmake is one of my favourite games
Sure
>i never said RE2 wasn't a better game as a whole either
You kinda implied that when you trashed every other game in the series
>unironically retarded "points" like "RE2 had a better plot"
It did though, was better than a FEAR rehash with Chainsaw Massacre mixed in
And it did have better level design

>>383710167
My older cousin likes it, but he's an oldfag. It would've better a Silent Hill than a Resident Evil IMO. Resident Evil isn't about slow terror. It's about tactical body armour and motorcycles. Killing as many baddies as possible and weapon upgrades.

It's so far removed from canon or lore. Chris would have clear the parimeter and neutralized the mobs in no time.

>>383712229
7 made the tone interesting again by taking couple steps back from the saturday morning cartoon plots. And I do appreciate the solid fps horror shooter design quite a lot more than the wobbly third person shooter mechanics. We already saw what 4 legacy gave us with 5, 6, ORC and UC. It's good time to allow the franchise to move on.

>>383720774
It's pretty fun with a friend anon

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