Lets have a weekly Killing Floor 2 thread, lads. How are you

I just started playing on PS4 since it's free. I wish I had started playing sooner, it's great. I used to love Left 4 Dead so it's like it's feeling that void.

I'm trying to find a way to make survivalist work but I just can't. It just feels like a really mediocre class.

I played the first one on pc and this one is really good, i think the maps are kinda small compared to 1 tought, maybe i´m remembering wrong.
Also weapon variety kinda sucks, berserker is the best class for this reason, all sorts of builds you can do.
How does pvp even work? It's impossible to find matches on ps4.

>>383635545
The maps might as well be one room because everyone just runs back to the same area at the start of a wave.

>>383635545
>How does pvp even work? It's impossible to find matches on ps4.
I've never played KF2 on PS4 but I'd imagine you're not finding any matches because it's a dead game-mode. Hardly anyone enjoys playing it.

I like it, play on PC although I did download the PS4 version through PS+ just to see how it works. It's better than I expected it to be but the game should really be played with a mouse and keyboard.

>>383635623
Yeah that's why i like that beach map, really open and you can't just turtle up like you can on some maps that you can literally just hide and enemies won´t spot you, kinda dumb.

>>383635210
>I'm trying to find a way to make survivalist work but I just can't.
That's because it can't work. Its a class that does what every other class does but worse, and as the team fills out you'll eventually be pushed into doing a role the team is most lacking in, at which point picking the class dedicated to that specific role would benefit the team much more anyway.

>>383635545
>How does pvp even work?
6v6 on 4 waves. Human players play normally, ZED players wait in line to spawn as the Elite variants of the normal ZEDs(those glowing ZEDs you see on Suicidal and higher difficulty) and try to kill the humans. Its extremely human sided until you get to the boss wave which is extremely ZED sided because while one player is chosen to be the Patriarch, the other 5 will be constantly spawning as elite ZEDs and wittle down the humans over time.
> It's impossible to find matches on ps4.
Its impossible to find matches period because nobody plays it, its nowhere near the main attraction of the game and was poorly implemented and forgotten about entirely after it dropped because of the large negative feedback of it.

as demo when it says you will deal massive radiation damage during zed time, how much damage is "massive" exactly?

>>383636210
MASSIVE

>>383636210
Same damage as the weapon you used to make the Nuke, so you want to use an RPG or C4 for it if possible. This was done because it used to be you'd deal about RPG levels of damage with any Nuke, so Demos would abuse that with the grenade pistol and melt FPs and Scrakes with it during ZED time.

What do they call a quarter pound in burning paris?

Zedtime reload fix when

>>383635545
Loadout variety is usually just picking between one of two loadouts. Only exception is Demo and maybe Medic who each have one good one.

>>383635210
You basically play it as a shittier Berzerker who trades the ability to tank anything meaningful for a healing grenade, a demo who can heal, or a healer with better weapons

Basically its only worth is as an off-healer who can do damage. It can work but its outclassed by every other perk.

>>383635873
>you can literally just hide and enemies won´t spot you, kinda dumb
What? That doesn't work

>>383636012
>Its impossible to find matches period because nobody plays it, its nowhere near the main attraction of the game and was poorly implemented and forgotten about entirely after it dropped because of the large negative feedback of it.

how come? I mean, queue time sucks but connections are fine

Really wish you could get more than one skin crate per day. Other than that, game's pretty decent.

Also, fuck Survivalist.

i like to play as gunslinger, as the weapons are effective and cheap

>>383636984
>cheap
A full GS loadout is so goddamn expensive though

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>join wave 8/7 on weekly while they're killing king fleshpound
>they finish with victory but I never spawn in
>get rewards screen with nothing on it no xp no score
>after about 10 seconds get the fleshpound visor
is this supposed to happen?

>>383636984
I like gunslinger but I don't like akimbo

>>383637152
i recently changed to PS4, so im a "noob". Im still playing on normal so i can get the hang of it with a controller.

>>383637152
it's really cheap if you use the 9mm for a while, same with commando/swat
especially if you abuse the ammo exploit with dualies

>>383634196
I wish there was more content. Like seriously, two bosses?

It's kind of amazing how basic it is. it's fun, but basic as fuck.

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Poundlings are cute.

Why is the siren actually annoying in KF2

>>383637640
I feel like they spawn more often and the body armor helps a bit to not die with body shots

>>383638289
2 shots with a .500 and she vanishes, that flat-chested crying bitch

>>383634196
I fucking hate playing field medic. Just healed 5k damage in a short wave game on the second highest difficulty. People run away from you like retards or your team won't cover your ass. And I had the second highest kill count. What a joke.

>>383637640
Did you even play KF1?
>Nearly halves your health in one scream
>Pulls you towards her so you have a harder time getting away
>AI is better because she actually tries to hide behind large zeds and screams whenever a grenade gets near her, even if there are no players nearby

>>383637476
there are three bosses

>>383635545
>How does pvp even work? It's impossible to find matches on ps4
I've had issues where the game will freeze right before I enter a PvP match, and it only happens for PvP. I hear changing the search settings to only search for games that haven't started yet helps so you might want to try that. And if you're in the US, I find the US West server is much more active than East or Central.

I want King Pound to stay a boss in the rotation even after this weekly.

>>383634196
> no content 2
kek

The Summer Sideshow siren was a mistake, really tired of hearing OOOOOOOOOOO all the time

>>383639459
Ee bubba.

>>383639459
>Hating on FIGAROOOOOOOOO
This is the most shit taste I've seen on /v/ this week.

>>383639459
>Oh, lololo.

>>383639459
Only bad sideshow Zeds are the Husks because the model crowds the backpack, and the Scrakes because you have to aim low to get headshots now.
The other Zeds are fucking great though. I wish they'd keep the Gorefast design after the event desu

>>383639459
It makes it all the more entertaining shooting its head off.

Did the Summer event end for PC? I didn't get the chance to play this game much these days

>>383640539
It did.

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>tfw incredible mechanical dance man didn't come back.

The pyrotechnics Husk looks cool but that metal man had the best puns.

>>383640607
fug

>>383640638
>that and they didn't bring back the summer stalker

shame

I like the Quarter Pounds much more than I will ever like the Gorefiends.

>>383640690
It just started on PS4 though oddly enough

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>didn't get a buttload of tickets over the last week weeks for circus cosmetics

Fuck. It ends soon, doesn't it?

>>383641094
It already over, anon

>>383641094
The cosmetics are shit though. You didn't miss out on anything except maybe the gold Horzine helmet for last week's challenge.

>>383641094
doesn't end until mid august.

>>383640638
I love that the baby-faced clots with mechanical legs came back 2bh

>>383636647
Demo can go RPG+GL or RPG+C4+Deagle

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>can't tell gorefiends apart from gorefasts
Switch back to old zeds when? This is quite literally killing me in some cases.

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>>383641257
Fuck

>>383641287
I really like circus stuff, though. I'm just glad I got all the achievements and that hazmat suit in one game.

>>383641329
Since when? I remember it started mid-June and ends mid-July.

>>383639516
this desu, it was amazing during the tiny zeds weekly
FIGAROOOEEeeee

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>just encountered a zerker that won't use melee weapons no matter what I tell him

How can someone be so clueless

Matterson is objectively the best character in the game.

>>383641745
>just encountered someone that actually plays firebug
I dont know, man. Pubs

>>383641754
I like Classic Briar more visually, but I still play Masterson for the voice lines

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>>383641754
Excuse you, heathen.

Is it wrong to just use the Double Barrel as Support? It just feels so satisfying.

>>383641946
>why build underground?
>it's UNNATURAL

>>383641754
I can't play other than Foster

>>383642127
https://youtu.be/orkoKWFdOY0
He sounds weird without his gas mask muffling his voice

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>>383641754
I just really like her accent and how she says "Sheet, sheet, sheet" when she's reloading near zeds.

Is ps4 getting all these new gamemodes and bosses?

>>383642660
>ps4 starts getting all the shit right after I plat the game
fack

why did they even add Rae Higgins, I can't stand her

>>383635873
Zed landing is the absoulte best map to camp one spot on dude everyone just goes to where the water is.

I love that map because by the end it's fucking blood beach at that spot.

>>383642660
They just got the Summer Sideshow so it's safe to assume they'll get everything, just at a later date.

>>383642752
The new shit doesn't have achievements attached to them, unless you didn't get the map that came with the Summer Sideshow yet.

>>383642758
They probably had some tumblrtard in the office who complained they weren't representing 'diverse' women

>>383642758
>Cheers love, the zeds are here!

Is KF2 worth it?, started playing the first one recently because i got it free and aside from some glitches the core gameplay is great.

>>383641754
>God Tier:
Masterson, Scully, Foster, Strasser, Banner
>Top Tier:
Alberts, Classics
>Under-appreciated tier:
PC Briar
>Eh Tier:
Neil, Tanaka, Jagerhorn
>Mistake Tier:
Ana, Rae

>>383643381
It's not for everyone. Depends on the games you like.
Do you like shooting? Like a lot?
Do you like satisfying combat?
Do you enjoy repetitive core gameplay that rewards you for getting gud?
If so, hell yes. I have ~700 hours in KF2 just because I have so much fun mass-genociding zeds over and over. I hardly get bored of it.
/end shill post

So is the general opinion
1 >2?

>>383643381
It plays very differently. Whereas in KF1 it was all about managing the ZEDs before they got to you, in KF2 its all about managing the ZEDs that do get to you. Where in KF1 you're expected to die if ZEDs reach you because they do a bunch of damage, in KF2 the ZEDs are tougher but deal less damage, and its all about managing the threats to your team and target prioritizing, as well as making sure you don't suffer TOO much damage.

In that regard your own health is a resource to be managed, in that you can ignore a ZED or two nibbling at you for a time if you absolutely need to focus on something else, and Medics are really OP in the sense that they completely negate that management altogether as you'll be constantly healed.

Also the game is overall more polished, ZEDs are more dangerous because they gain new animations and speed that makes them harder to headshot as well as new abilities, but on the upside the perks themselves work the same way, where ZED health doesn't go up beyond Hard difficulty and neither does perk damage all that much, what makes the perks more valuable are the skills they get every 5 levels that can change the way they're played.

Also the corny horror atmosphere of the first game is completely gone, and textures are all clean and tidy in favour of painting them red with blood as the match goes on. Someone put it this way, in KF1 there were serious characters acting goofy, and in KF2 its goofy characters acting serious.

>>383644019
If you're a nostalgiafag yes, but once you play KF2 you will never want to go back to the old one. It has changed a bit, but it's definitely a worthy successor.

>>383644276
I'd say it's better in respect to gameplay, but it loses the character the original had. The shitty voice acting was the best part of the original

>>383640762

i dont really get what this years summer stalkers were meant to be
a tattoo woman or something? it just looks like a regular zombie, doesnt even have any interesting quotes

>>383644019
only because of LOADSAMONE

What is the best map and why is it Volter Manor?

>>383644019
2 is better than 1 and it's very hard to go back to 1 after 2.

1 did a number of things better than 2, but 2 is simply the better experience all things considered. If 2 took more lessons from 1 though, it would be a much better game

>>383644019
KF2 was harder to get into for me because of the retarded trader menu and PS4 controls. I still love it. KF1 felt more like a classic sandbox-style survival game on PC

>>383645082
I really like the snowy outpost level

I'm downloading the update now, what did they add that's 6GB?

>>383646831
What update?

>>383646831
Summer Sideshow event if you mean for PS4

>>383646908
PS4

>>383647024
googling now to see what it's about

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>July 25 - Zed Time - All the Zed Time in the world.

>Ever think that life is passing you by? Not in this outbreak! You'll be in Zed Time any time you're near a Zed.
>You'll be in Zed Time any time you're near a Zed

>>383644923
That's amazing

>>383647142
Trailer for the event
https://youtu.be/DtbUbaQP8WU

Support feels so strong. Double barrel is probably the best price/power gun in the game. Makes scrakes a joke.

>>383647151
>Didn't autisticly boost SWAT to 25 for infinite ammo in near-real time and +100% stumble power
I have only myself to blame.

>>383643510
Rae is great. I love when she says "ME RAE. LIVE IN CAVE. PAINT ON WALLS."

>>383634196
tfw you were on vacation and missed out on 3 rewards. feelsbadman

>>383647518
hype

I'm going to play this game soon. Someone play with me.

>>383642012
It's always good to have. It's a fantastic gun. For the later waves it's recommended to buy it AND the AA-12 though. The auto shotgun shreds fleshpounds, which is something the double barrel can't do that well.

I use the double barrel until I'm low on ammo and then conserve some rounds to make scrakes easier to deal with then I switch to the AA-12.

>>383641754
Classic Masterson is my favorite. Whomever is voicing him has good delivery on the classic KF lines.
>I want drugs, now!
>Burn, you SHIT.
>*falsetto* Roasty Toasty!

>>383640762
Doesn't line up with our Christian values of including sexy women anon!

>>383641841
Firebug is actually legit as hell on Suicidal and Hell on Earth difficulties. There is so much fucking trash that spawns it's insane, and on those difficulties the trash can receive buffs that makes them sort of threatening if you let them overwhelm you.

Firebug can melt through trash like butter. On HoE it's not uncommon for a firebug to have top kills and damage from holding chokepoints and protecting the medic/sharpie/demo

Commando or SWAT?

Does it just come down to ARs vs SMGs? For some reason, when I first saw the swat class I thought it would be a dedicated lmg class.

>>383647624
Wouldn't worry about that, they're disabling level 25 skills. They're supposed to anyways, but with twi incompetence I wouldn't be surprised if they forget to turn them off.

>>383635210
use dbs + rpg

>>383641841
El oh el, you must be mad that we top kills and assists. It's okay man, you'll get there.

>>383649347
Commando by miles son.

They extend zed time for everyone in the team and can spot stalkers before they show up and wombo combo the medic to death. They also have much better damage output than SWAT.

SWAT brings nothing to the table, it's just a shittier Commando. Don't play it ever unless you need the achievements.

>>383649675
swat is better for mid and large fatties, and for maps that are to closed in for com

>>383635873
>just hide and enemies won´t spot you
That's an exploit that only appeared on the PS4. I'm pretty sure they fixed those in the last patch. I believe it's one of the reasons they're delaying the summer event for PS4.

>>383649756
What does that even mean? The Stoner has higher ammo capacity and better dps than anything in the SWAT's arsenal and the ability to extend zed time duration for the entire team is very valuable on Hell on Earth when everyone is level 25 and has their uber zed time abilities.

>>383638524
Medic is very satisfying on a good team, high difficulty.
You can give out damage and resistance buffs. Your guns slow/stumble the zeds and a well placed healing grenade can save lives.

>>383649675
Ya I was leaning that way. The zed time extension seems really fucking neat. I assume you just gotta learn to space out kills during zed time to maximize the duration. I also like how the commando has that lmg.

>>383644019
It lacks the charm of KF1 but kf2 is better overall

>>383649945
>Stoner
Don't use this

SWAT has a very easy time killing large zeds because of flashbangs, which also do no self damage

Commando is good at everything compared to SWAT, SWAT is specialized and kinda meh

>>383640607
>no more double exp
Damn shame since I didn't have time to get sharp and medic to 25. At least I finished off swat.

>>383649945
The Stoner is the only commando gun that doesn't require constant reloads. Swat has ammo coming out his ears.
They both have their strengths but for close/mid range trash defense nothing is better then a swat.

Remove shitty music, Sharpshooter and Survivalist.
Add good music, MK23 and quality custom maps from KF1.
Game is now fixed.

>>383650241
Yeah but Support, Sharpshooter, Demolitionist, and Berserker do the whole large zed killing thing better and faster than SWAT while also bringing other things to the table.

Flashbang is nice but dynamite and freeze grenades are better and Sharpie and Demo are miles better.

>>383650241
Do you only play on solo? Sounds like you only play on solo.

>>383650363
Also add Aldridge's costume for Classic Briar.

>>383649945
swat nades can stun and gurantee large zeds will go down, his armor allows him to eat hits for allies, and his overall dps is higher. extended zedtime is nice, but not required.

also commando suffers on tiny maps and areas like the decent, and on average his guns ammo costs slightly more.

also swat can spawn with a second 9 mill, so that a bit of extra cash early game.

>>383649347

There's an LMG weapon for the Commando.

>>383650363
Why not just listen to your own music?

Portal map when?

>>383641094
>Recycle shitty hat for ticket to get a fifth
>Receive same shitty hat

Goddamn it

>>383650512
I do.

>>383650551
Well then.

How the fuck do I use voice chat in this game without crashing?

>>383649347
One commando per team.
Focus on extending zed time and assisting the team (use the hp bars, finish off big zeds). If there are 2+ commandos you risk wasting the zed time extensions.

If there already is a commando, swat is much a more effective trash cleaner.

>>383647521
The new lever action sharp and GS get is also really good. I would say the only downside it has is its ammo pool but its raw damage shreds anything below a husk and can nicely deal with scrakes.

>it's a Combat Medic poisoning every single zed on screen making it impossible to headshot them

At least Firebugs can do some damage and crowd control, these fuckers just trick you into thinking you have a functioning medic.

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Okay I got Gunslinger to 25 and Support is almost at 25 too. What are some other useful perks to level up? Do any of the characters have canon roles? I feel like some of them have more voice lines for different perks..

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>>383650781
The ammo is also expensive for a Tier 2 (50 dosh for 10), but the damage per shot is massive, like more than double of the Winchester. Removes a Bloat's head in one go at worst.

It's even somewhat decent on Survivalist

>>383651174
There isn't really a canon, you'll find that many characters have lines for Gunslinger weapons.

>>383651174
Sharpshooter, Demolitionist, Field Medic, Berseker, Commando, and Firebug are all pretty good to varying degrees.

Stay away from Survivalist. SWAT can be okay but it doesn't bring as much to the party as the above perks.

What role are you looking to fill? What do you have fun doing? I play almost every perk so I can answer some questions.

So what's the role of Gunslinger? To be the only fucker alive running around after a teamwipe?

>>383651629
To be a more mobile albeit less powerful Sharpshooter. They can tackle large threats and stay on the move while doing full damage, unlike the sharpie which needs to be stationary and crouched to achieve max power.

They're pretty good at kiting large zeds to death and taking out medium zeds with only a shot or two to the head.

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>>383651541
Any advice for Firebug perks? I found that I really enjoy having a crowd control role than any other in KF2. I'm currently a level 19 Firebug, but I'm starting to become dead weight during later waves on harder difficulties. Other than getting Spitfires ASAP, I'm not sure what else I should be doing to ensure I'm well equipped to take out the trash ZEDs.

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>>383651541
Well I like being a big zed killer. I also like (with a well coordinated team anyways) CC'ing enemies and having others on the team ruin their lives. Can play a decent medic every now and again, but I also like the idea of clearing big waves of trash too.

Pretty much everything in the game is fun to me, I just want to be an asset to the team.

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>Gunslinger keeps going for body shots and has to shoot Fleshpounds with his 9mm because he wasted his .500 ammo on cysts
>Demolitionist exclusively uses the RPG, only shoots zeds if they're in groups of two or less and will always fire at Scrakes before Fleshpounds
>Field Medic only heals himself, runs around solo pretending to be a Commando
>Firebug enrages every Scrake and Fleshpound on the map
>Sharpshooter sits crouched in a corner taking 10 seconds to line up every Clot headshot with his railgun
>Survivalist playing Survivalist

>>383651883
Firebug is by far the hardest class to play online. 9/10 times your fire will spread and your team will accuse you of raging everything.

>>383651948
Sharpshooter is THE big zed killer on HoE. You buy the railgun and if you're good with it you can handle even the craziest scrake+fp spawns if the team is good at keeping trash off you.

>>383651883
Buy the flamethower and kill lots of stuff with it, don't enrage large zeds and don't attack them until they're engaged by someone on the team more equipped to handle them. Spitfires are nice but so is the trench gun it's really up to personal preference.

>>383652034
To be fair if the RPG doesn't detonate it's good for scrakes.

How do I build a Support? mag capacity or reload speed, penetration or less spread? is the +50 health ever worth taking, ever?

>>383652110
I already know to avoid drawing aggro from larger ZEDs unless they're already currently being handled by the Berserker or Gunslinger. I ended up having really good control with the flamethrower so I took the Ground Fires upgrade for area denial purposes. I think I'm having trouble knowing when to buy certain weapons.

>>383652476
Yeah, but seems like 90% of people don't know that.
It's astounding how many level 25s have no clue about Fleshpound or Scrake mechanics.

>>383635545
I got the game with PS+ and I've only been able to play when my friends made a private game. Using the matchmaker took nearly 30 minutes to find a game and then it was loading/connecting for 12 more minutes before I just shut the whole thing off.

>>383652476
Go with reload speed, damage, spread reduction, ammo backpack, and the zed time perk that lets you shoot in real time.

Buy the boomstick first and then save for the AA12. If you have excess dosh you can buy the medic shotgun too to help with healing but you won't have the weight for that until you're high level.

>>383651629
Mobile with high potential DPS hampered by low ammo capacity and frequent reloading.

>>383651883
Ground fire abuse.

How do I get good at sharpshooter in kf1

>>383652587
It's not very astounding because level up maps are whitelisted

>>383652646
Shoot them in the chin

>>383652624
Thanks anon.

>>383652357
>>383652638
Thanks for the advice, looks like I'm on the right track. I might just be buying Spitfires too early. I also know the Microwave gun is trash. Currently level 19, here's my skill list:
>High Capacity Tanks
>Ground Fires
>Napalm

>>383652357
I would go so far as to say that you shouldn't even fuck with the big zeds and instead focus on keeping the team free from trash.

>>383652510
Knowing not to draw agro is only half the battle.
At level 15 you have to pick a perk: spreading fire or exploding zeds, both are bad for agro.

Ground fire is strong, even the caulk gun is good for area denial. The flamethrower just makes it easier, the microwave doesn't work with ground fire.

>>383651629
Gunslinger is the Sharpshooter of KF2. A Gunslinger that can aim and use the right weapon at the right time can hold a lane on 6 player HoE by himself.
>>383652646
Point and click at heads. Learn to use every weapon you have when appropriate, including the 9mm.

>>383652830
The new double tap shotgun is a powerful option to take instead of the DBS. Just need to practice with it's massive recoil.

>>383653135
>lar / m14 sharp in kf1
>lar / m14 sharp in kf2

>pistol / xbow sharp in kf1
>magnum / railgun sharp in kf2

It's the same shit

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>queueing weekly so a friend can get his reward
>full tryhard mode, 25 zerk
>fail twice in a row because of randoms dropping in/out
>third round
>get to boss wave
>clearing/parrying/tanking like a madman
>first demo gets himself cornered and dies
>support (who was a retard that kept dcing and rejoining) dies
>get cut off from everyone else, they die 1 by 1
>despite this, boss is low, with half his shield remaining
>just me, the boss, and half a dozen quarter pounds
>run around healing myself looking for pulv ammo
>find armor pickup, blow through the quarter pounds
>just me and the boss
>kite him around for a good 5 minutes, getting in swings when i can
>armor lost, boss has a literal sliver of HP
>put distance between him to bait out the laser
>he charges, i parry but miss, down to 78 HP
>go for one last swing to finish him off
>get fucking one-shot by one melee attack DOING 78 FUCKING DAMAGE FOR NO REASON
i'm fucking done with this game for tonight.
side note, fuck randoms. worse than Blackwake randoms.

>>383653023
>the microwave doesn't work with ground fire.
It does now.

Holy shit I was finally able to beat that boss with the german accent, did they nerf him or something?

>>383653328
Shit taste. Cool kids used M14/MK23/Dual Handcannons

Wait there are more bosses now?

>>383653712
>Using pistols with the M14
Shitshooter detected

>>383653743
Just Lehtstreigh Gasse and Shrek

>>383653743
Still Hans and Patty. King Fleshpound is just a weekly challenge.

when did you dropped killing floor 2 /v/?

>>383652476
Even if it explodes, it still does tremendous impact damage to Scrakes as long as it hits them in the head

>Gunslinger is the Sharpshooter of KF2
Have you tried Sharpshooter with the new center fire rifle and rack'em up? Rack up a few clots, one shot the bloat... It's light enough to carry with the railgun too.

>>383653835
t. Crutchbow user

>>383641329
That's for the ps4 version, anon.

>>383652476
>penetration or less spread?
I honestly think they increased the spread in a recent patch. Or maybe it just took the tiny terrors to make me realize the buck shot can sometimes go around their heads.

>>383641440

Same as the normal one, gorefiend has 2 blades.

>>383642012

Double barrel is the best gun in the game bar none, it even works off perk.

>>383642660

Yes we are, I asked the devs, they said "soon", I assume we'll get them now that the event is over on PC.

last time I played was when they added the last park, did something good happened?

>>383653949
It's a Gunslinger weapon as well

>>383654363
last perk?

They've added at least 3 maps. 5 weapons, a new boss and 4 new game modes.

>>383653154
HZ-12 is great for trash clearing and saving your DBS/AA-12 ammo, but it can't do the DBS's job. HZ-12 only does 2/3rds the damage per shot that the DBS does, which winds up being a whopping 100 damage difference before any perk bonuses are even applied.

>>383654009
M14 can't be used with the Crossbow in KF1

LAR/M14 is true king pairing
Pistols/M14 serves no purpose because M14 is already doing all the things the pistols can do but better and the LAR can stun scrakes

This thread might actually get me to forgive TW for the lootcrate shit in EA.
Is KF2 worth downloading as is?

>>383654536
Yeah, the survivalist.
can I get a quick rundown on the last boss and new game modes?
I have like 300 hours in this game but the wait for content took ages so I dropped it.

>>383654650
Yes.

What is the best sharpshooter loadout

>>383654869
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaailgun!

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>>383654650
Believe it or not, yes. I was an avid FUCK YOU, TRIPWIRE person during the EA period but it's become an extremely enjoyable game.

>playing hard mode
>25 zerk joins and runs as far away as possible from the team
>spends entire game fighting by himself on the other side of the map

Why do people do this?

current balance problems with kf2:
>zerker
zweihander is still gutted and entirely worthless to buy
sub 15 zerker is completely worthless to play and some of those 15 perks need to be brought down to 5 or 10 to make the perk not shit low levels
>commando:
ak is still meaningless to buy, as a endgame tier weapon it performs abysmally compared to scar and against sa80 which is dirt cheap, it's still shit compared to it
lmg is at a mediocre state, since the go to metagame is scar/m16, it needs to get a better scaling for its mag capacity so its worth it to take when you get +mag perk, right now its just poo in damage and ammo efficiency
>support:
no reason to ever buy medic shotgun, its just pure trash
hz shotgun needs a solid buff because it underperforms heavily compared to DB which is cheaper and a miniature nuke gun, hz should be standard as the mid tier trash cleaner while m4/aa12 still act as the endgame
it would be really nice if support could take DB, m4, and aa12
>medic:
the main issue isnt every medic gun being total trash, its that healing grenade, its just not good enough to warrant standing inside it while a FP or scrake rapes your face off
>firebug:
another perk that only becomes useful when its extremely high level
bring down the ground floor damage buff to level 5 or 10 and buff the inci shotgun and the microwave gun
another problem is how much clutter it makes making it hard to distinguish between mobs
>gunslinger:
the starting revolver are so dogshit its not even funny, buff the living shit out of this
besides that this perk has the least issues
>sharpshooter:
something is up with those sights, the recoil is just so goddamn high on every weapon that the sights just get fucked and you cant spam shots easily and of course most of your damage comes from being a rock and using sights
sharpshooter just gets shat on by gunslinger because of this
>survavilist
delet this perk
>swat
not enough guns, the gun progression is linear and its zzz

>>383654981

I'm glad they reverted to regular Scrake, the monkey one had fucked hitboxes on account of its different gait

>>383655076
waiting for you fags to die and look like a pro when he solo the rest of the wave

>>383654646
Pistols are more effective at clearing trash than the M14 for their penetration.
The LAR is worse than the pistols at clearing trash and worse than the M14 at killing big zeds.
LAR/M14 is the more pointless loadout and pistols/crossbow is baby mode.

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>tfw

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Daily reminder that banner is best boy.

I started playing a few weeks ago. Played the first one years ago and fell in love, though.

Is Commando viable enough to stick with or am I a basic bitch? I just like LMGs

>>383654564
Have you tried double clicking? It's not easy to handle the recoil but 16 rounds(3200dmg) per magazine!
You don't need the knock back with that much dps.

>>383655219
is this for real? looks lazy as fuck.
What happened to matriarch?

>>383655187
soloing hard as zerk at that level is fucking EZ mode though

>>383655219

Really disappointing boss. His spin2win attack is the one from the KF2 beta which they removed from the regular FP, and the laser is basically a shittier version of the Patty chaingun (less damage and you can just crouch to completely avoid it). I don't quite understand if the mode he goes into when he's about to die is just a shield or a shield + damage buff, either way he dies very easy, weaker even than nu-Hans

>>383655308
>matriarch
what. Patty is still in, that's just an optional boss in weekly event mode only.

>>383655308

It's real. It's a boss from the weekly mode

It's just a white FP with gold metal bits and a very underwhelming laser attack

To be honest, I wanted Martial Artist, bros.

>>383655101
>ak is meaningless

It's the best commando weapon by far

>>383655501
they rushed that shit, you can see how terrible is the level design of new maps after it went out of early access

>>383655258
Who do you think you are, bleeding Action Man?

>>383654724
New Boss King Fleshpound. He can summon quarter pounders.

New game modes were added for the Summer Sideshow event. They said they're going to keep weekly modes after the event.

Modes are mostly silly but fun like "Tiny Terror" The more damage the zeds take the smaller they get. Or big head mode. Zeds have giant heads but like 10x more hp

>>383655304
The recoil's not the issue, it's the HZ-12's damage. 3200dmg doesn't mean as much when it takes longer to deal it all. Reload cancelling the DBS brings its continuous fire rate way up, and largely negates any potential advantage given by the HZ-12's magazine.

The HZ-12 is a great addition to supp's lineup, I use it all the time for trash, but it isn't a replacement for the DBS

>tried Poundemonium solo
>made it to the boss round
>died to the king fleshpound
JUST!

>>383654869
Railgun for Big Zeds + Centerfire for everything else. Is Xbow for stun + M14 still a thing? I can't seem to stun anything

>>383654650
EA has been a colossal clusterfuck but right now KF2 is the best its ever been. Even if we never got Martial Artist and SWAT is still just Commando's little brother

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When's Best Boy "Interrupt my lunch break; I'll interrupt your life" Aldridge

>>383656059
>Even if we never got Martial Artist
It hurts

please GOD give me a female police officer or military character and not this bullshit

>>383656059
>>383654737
>>383654981
BUT
Did they add
West London?

>>383656059
>and SWAT is still just Commando's little brother

More like its big brother. P90 is a tier 3 weapon that can out-DPS any weapon in the Commando's arsenal. And the Kriss is basically a SCAR with a gigantic mag (esp. @ LV25)

The only thing Commando has on SWAT is Stalker spotting. He gets cucked for free on all other areas. Even arguments like "Commando is better for far away kills :^)" are just bogus, SWAT weapons are accurate enough to snipe with, and the average map has very close quarters ranges to begin with

>>383656268

Agreed, I'd be happy with just Ash returning.

>>383656175
>no aldrigdge
>no chicken/chickenator
>no santa
>no dr. glover
>no paramedic

>>383656482
>The only thing Commando has on SWAT is Stalker spotting.

And way cheaper ammo. Then again, on a coordinated team it doesn't matter, people will drop money so everyone can kit up

>>383656482
Commando also has the team zed time extension

>>383656482
>And the Kriss is basically a SCAR with a gigantic mag (esp. @ LV25)

It's much superior to the SCAR on account on shooting thrice as fast

>>383655101
AK is great dude, it's my go to weapon every game as Commando. I fucking hate the stoner though. It should get a slower rate of fire and get penetration on bullets, right now it just feels like an SMG. and the HZ shotgun is a great side-pick to the super shotty, you sacrifice damage for better trash clearing. The both serve good roles. I don't think the starting GS revolvers need to be changed since you're supposed to get away from them as soon as possible, but maybe buff damage and cap the fire rate if you really want to change then.


>its that healing grenade, its just not good enough to warrant standing inside it while a FP or scrake rapes your face off
Why the fuck would you face tank a big zed unless you're a zerker anyways, that doesn't seem like an issue

Gunslinger really needs more ammo for it's better guns. It feels really gay when one missed shot can cost you an entire match.

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>Keep getting crates but no keys

I bet the keys they want you to purchase with real money are one-use only too.

>>383656908
No shit. It's like you've never played one of these games before.

>>383656908
Overwatch absolutely got the crate system right, I wish other games who do the crate shit would at least take note

>>383656975
I haven't, usually I smell jewish tricks a mile away. Only reason I'm playing this one is because it was on PS+ last month.

>>383656908
No fucking shit, Sherlock. This your first time seeing a crate system?

>>383636583

Underrated post

>>383657015
Well that's because you can't turn around and sell the items for real money.

>>383656482
SWAT is a commando that trades Zed time extensions and stalker spotting for the ability to actually take on Scrakes. Which is nice and powerful but its something neither of these classes should bother with since their role is clearing trash.

>>383647142
>googling now to see what it's about
Damn, I'm too late to tell you not to so you can have the best surprise ever when you play your first match of it.

>>383656876
Face tanking Fleshpounds used to be the medics job

>>383656546
They fucked themselves over by giving characters separate voices, but they'll probably add them in slowly as purchasable cosmetics, they already did it with the yellow hazmat suit character and the mark 7 suit character. I'll be happily surprised is chickenator turns out to be a free character and not just a cosmetic you can buy.

>>383634196
All this time and they're just now adding a 3rd boss? Will there be others?

>>383634196
The secret for doing this without going below 80 health is soloing it with Berserker, using the eviscerator. It's stupid easy if you do that.

>>383656175
>>383656546
>No Samuel Avalon
>No Lee Baron
>No Trader

>>383651174
>I feel like some of them have more voice lines for different perks..
They do have extra lines for different perks depending on the character, like Alberts has plenty of extra lines for the Medic guns, a few ones for Gunslinger, Firebug, and Zerker, but none beyond that. Then you have other characters like Donovan or Jagerhorn that have extra lines for wielding an RPG.

>>383650413
>support
>killing large zeds

A swat at level 25 in a solo match can flashbang vector and kill a fleshpound from full without it enraging.

>>383653357
Eviscerator for the boss wave is top tier because you can pierce a row of Quarter-Pounds and even the boss at once and also damage the boss from a distance so it doesn't go explosive autist on you when it gets mad. Use blades to damage him, parry when he gets mad, easy kite and kill.

>>383658045
>in a solo match
Doesn't mean anything

What's your favorite map in kf1?
Who's your favorite character to play as in kf1?
What's your favorite perk in kf1?
What's your favorite weapon in kf1?

What's your favorite map in kf2?
Who's your favorite character to play as in kf2?
What's your favorite perk in kf2?
What's your favorite weapon in kf2?
Do you prefer to fight hans or the patriarch?

>>383639282
it probably will, I assume they are just testing the waters with the event to see how players react.
They better keep the mini pounds on the boss wave though otherwise it will be way too easy.

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>tfw i like ana larive as a guilty pleasure

What does leveling up classes actually do, make you stronger or increase health?

>>383658160
MountainPass
Mr. Foster
Medic
Schneidzekk Medic Gun

They're all pretty bad. Outpost is probably the least bad.
Briar
Demolitionist
RPG
Sideshow Hans > (Sideshow) Patriarch > Hans

>>383658160
>Icebreaker, Offices, or Departed
>Commando
>Avalon/Aldridge
>FAL

Man, I miss KF1's maps more than anything else. Lots of winding and sprawling levels. The only maps I really like in KF2 are Evac zone and Nuked.

>>383658160

Farm
Harold Lott
Sharpshooter
LAR

I'm liking Nuked. Used to be BurningParis or Outpost
Foster
Zerk
AA-12
Hans

>>383658160

Aperture/Wyre/Moonbase
Aldridge
Sharpshooter
MK23

They all feel sameish. I guess Infernal Realm because it has some nice visuals.
Classic Briar
Gunslinger
M1911

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>mfw the patriarch dies within 15 seconds of him engaging us

Holy fuck I've never seen him die that fast. The zerker just threw some of his grenades and everybody else just unloaded on him, he somehow got knocked down and couldn't retreat to heal and he just got fucking DELETED. He got absolutely fucked.

>>383659397

Happens just as often with Hans. Gets harder to do as difficulty and playercount go up

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>>383641754
Personally I prefer Alberts because I got a nice white flatcap that goes good with his suit.

Still waiting on my boy though.

>>383641412
Why not the RPG and the M4 with the grenade attachment?

>>383659274
KF2 maps feel like they go through a fixed design process where every assigned "defensible" spot on every map has to have a specified amount of paths and spawn points to fit the style of Gameplay Tripwire is going for. They all feel the same.

>>383657367
>SWAT is a commando that trades Zed time extensions and stalker spotting for the ability to actually take on Scrakes

It can kill FPs too, dude. Even with their ballistic resistance, Kriss just melts their head health

Amazing boss killers, too. A Kriss mag will put DPS in excess of a Dual .500s reload (10 shots). Patty is so big you can go full auto on him from any distance, too, missed headshots will still hit the body

>>383635210
I enjoy playing surv as demo+katana. Huge blast radius and you can effectively deal with trash in face. Of course, a pro demo can bash heads off and kite enough to blow up shit chasing him.

>>383658934
Incremental buffs that may be boosted per level or few, and every five levels you get access to a new tier of two interchangeable skills, of which you can only have one of active at a time. Not all of them are equal. Some perks benefit a shitload from skills and their real effectiveness may only really start to kick in later.

As you get higher on levels you're supposed to handle harder difficulties, which also grant more experience for exp objectives.

>>383659752
Because the M79 is strictly better. Every bullet fired out of the M16 is time spent not doing the job you're good at, and if you need to do that, something is wrong with your team.

>>383649030
It's the same voice actor. It's why he's called Classic Masterson.

>>383660185

M16 is great to trigger Nuke, though. And even though the actual bullets deal shit damage (equivalent to a Bullpup I think?), the grenade alt is hugely buffed with a Demo, and you can carry a lot of grens

>>383660370
It's still wholly inferior to the M79.

>>383660370
The fucking grenade pistol is better than the m16 for self defense, which is the only reason you would pick the m16

>>383659397
hes a lot easier if you box him in
like he'll get confused when trying to run away and run back into one of your teammates

>>383658160
Offices
Harold Lott
Support
Husk Gun

Burning Paris
New Masterton
Commando
Deagle
Patty

Would anyone object to Survivalist being a "homemade weapons" perk? Eviscerator should go to him. It's kinda gay that Zerk's best weapon is a weird crossbow. Give him the Sickle or Chainsaw back or something

The kind of weapons that match my idea of a Survivalist:

Some sort of homemade grenade, Gunslinger's nail bomb or Demo's dynamite fit best
Crovel (It is a survivalist's tool IRL)
Eviscerator
Crossbow
Caulk n' Burn (ghettoest looking weapon in the game)
Pulverizer (make it multiperk, I don't care)

Or just making zany, dropping bear traps and having the weirder KF1 weapons (like the Harpoon gun) as perk weapons

>>383660538

Grenade pistol is the best starting weapon in the game. Completely ignored as "bad" by shitters. When Demo first dropped (mind you, Gorefiends didn't exist yet), it + RPG7 was a valid loadout for roaming Demo, even on HoE

>hobbling monkey men
>can't cleanly headshot them with rpg blunts
why

>>383661113

I assume you're on PS4. Monkey Scrake's hitboxes are a bit different than regular Scrake. Seems like they just took the old hitboxes and matched it to the new model, and the head hitbox seems to clip into the body a bit

>Anal Arive medic mains
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

>>383661252
I actually just havent played in a few days so I didnt realize the event had ended. Basically had to rage them and then get them as they run at you.

>>383658160
>Foundry
>Security Officer Thorne
>Berserker
>Dwarfs?! Axe

>Evacuation Point
>Tom Banner
>Berserker
>Zweihander
>no preference

>>383661278

>all playable girls are some sort of trashy scene chick

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>>383660370
The thing about the M16M203 though is how the explosive is much weaker than the M79, and I don't think the bullet damage is boosted at all which is a concern when it doesn't carry an awful lot of it. Only really a solo weapon and even then the HX25 is still great for what it is.

>>383660871
>Grenade pistol is the best starting weapon in the game

I dunno, Firebug can get a lot of mileage out of the Caulk 'n Burn, same with Support and the SG-500. Many people also carry a Medic pistol as well, so there's that too.

>>383661425
>Zweihander

I'm truly sorry. They mangled that fucking weapon

>same range as default knife
>barely any faster than pulv

I can never justify going from Katana to it. I always just get Pulv or save for Evis

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>>383658630
Same. I love her accent

>>383661582

the ass was fat

>>383660370
>>383661496
m203 does the same damage as the m79, but has a smaller radius.

How well does this run on PS4?

>>383661690
It's an Unreal Engine game, it just werks on anything.

>>383661670
Considering how the M79 is used to clear a large area of trash, the M203 is still weak at what it should do

>>383661556
I havent looked at stats in a while. Is zwei still highest non-explosive damage and therefore optimal for scrakes and bosses? I still can't decide between massacre/smash and weapon. Pulv makes sense with smash but then you run out of ammo and it doesnt make sense to heavy swing any more.

>>383661556

not to mention

>Scrake and FP are highly resistant to slashing damage

>>383661893

Hans I think resists slashing, Patty doesn't

>>383661893

Even without ammo the Pulv heavy swing does a shitton of damage, and it can stun

>>383638621
Also don't sirens fuck up the visuals on screens in kf1 compared to kf2?

>>383661665
That too, god damn

>>383661665
Mrs. Foster had the fattest ass.

>>383662268

No, the Bloat did

>>383652616
Late to the thread, but in my experience setting the option to allow games in progress (on by default) makes matchmaking take fucking forever for some reason. Turning it off is almost always instant.

Wonder how many people never even bothered with the game because of that.

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>>383662348

Quarter pounds are cute, I hope they'll stay in the game in some way after the weekly is over.

>>383639459
>MI MIMIMIMIMIMIMI

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Anyone else have a bug where the game sees no inventory items while you actually have some in your steam inventory?

>>383634196
KF2 is Jews jewwing Jews. Tripwire is shit tier dev.

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why does patty spawn zeds nonstop in kf2

in kf1 it was just a small wave while he went to heal this is dumb

>>383641754
>Classic Briar with balaclava and police helmet
>berserker with the shield and mace
FUR COAT NO KNICKERS BITCHES

I miss the sideshow zeds, I wish there was an option to leave them toggled on.

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>>383662348
>that first time playing as a bloat and seeing that huge ass that jiggles with every step

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>>383661665
i really want to make a catsuit cosmetic for ana but i really have no idea where to start with this sdk

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>Doing weekly
>Be zerker
>Get to king asspounder
>He's at half HP
>Tons of quarter pounders chasing the squad
>Continue killing waves of them
>Only me and medic left
>He pops his shield
>Me and medic constantly kiting him
>Running around looking for eviscerator ammo
>Take down the shield
>Medic gets cornered and dies
>Tfw killed the bastard as the only one left

When the fuck is ps4 getting summer sideshow?

>>383639459
Are you kidding it was great during the shrinking weekly

>>383663379
Never, don't even bother checking it right now because it totally won't be there.

>>383663379
Anon....

>>383663495
We got the Christmas special didn't we?

Heavy gunner class with lmgs when?
Energy weapons based class when?
Martial artist resurrected when?

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>play commando
>conserve mag ammunition and let loose bursts on headshots all day

>play gunslinger
>constantly wasting ammo and shooting wide, missing headshots entirely

I feel like this should be the other way around.

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>all these stupid fuckers that dont know any of the camp spots on suicidal

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got this game recently
honest question, is this all there is to it?
everything unlocked from the beginning, with paid dlc cosmetics, and the same couple of bosses at the end of short number of rounds?
aside from the progression system i see little with the interest of longevity. i do like the gameplay though and it runs great!

>>383664138
That's basically it. You play on harder difficulties as you level up the perks. The gameplay is what makes people stay.

>>383663181

So that one can magically spawn next to you and hold you while you eat a rocket.

>>383664007
Commando is very easy to sustain to do what it does best. With Gunslinger you have to pace yourself right and use the right guns, though you're pretty much guaranteed to run out of 1858 ammo on the first wave. They're just a really crappy starting weapon. Is the recoil a problem for you?

>>383664138
Raise up your perk levels and play on harder difficulties, which also have extra zed subspecies much more likely to appear.

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>>383655101
Survivalist needs a rework. I like the idea of an 'off-perk' perk, but its implementation is terrible.
What it should be is "the perk with weapons we could not classify."
He can still have access to all the other class weapons as is, but give him a series of exclusive weapons that simply follow no other perk.
Similar to the horzine scientist from that old KF1 mod.

New Survivalist
>can still use any weapon
>Now has access to exclusive survivalist weapons. Things like a Tesla gun, cryo gun, Longbow, harpoon gun. Anything that wouldnt make sense on a different perk
>change grenades to caltrops or bear traps, just to differentiate him further.
>change level tree to give him bonuses to the off perk weapons and his new unique grenades.
>add a bonus for using weapons from multiple perks so that he can play multiple roles at once, rather than becoming a mediocre version of another perk.

To put it simply, survivalist needs to be the grab bag class. A character who is super adaptable. As he is now, he is more of a less good version of another perk, since customizing isnt really encouraged.

>>383664445
any class can use any weapon though

Are the weeklies going to stay in any form as mutators did in KF1 or is this just gonna be gone? I hope its a server option?

>>383664048
>suicidal
HA

>>383664007
There's something weird about the perspective of two guns that fucks up my sense of where the center of the screen is. It might also be that the iron sights are weird to me.

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>>383655101
>swat
>not enough guns, the gun progression is linear and its zzz

Jesus Christ, this. When binging on the double exp weekend I just couldn't help but feel SWAT was just boring as fuck to play by comparison to the rest of the perks, even if the Kriss and P90 work well there's nothing to shake it up. A new dedicated SWAT weapon and maybe some crossperk support through new or existing ones would do wonders to its replay value.

What does /v/ think of the perk anyway? Should it stay as a dedicated SMG class or branch out into a few other things on the side to help differentiate itself? I often see people suggesting riot shields or even SG-500/M4 crossperking.

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>bought the game during summer sale
>put in 60 hours with summer sideshow enemy models
>can comfortably play on hard or suicidal for a bit more challenge
>sideshow ends
>hitbox on scrakes are slightly different (diff animations?)
>can't hear sirens coming from miles away anymore

can't wait to see what else is about to fuck me up

>>383665264
More SMGs. SMGs are cool.

>>383665264
Riot shield, Breaching Shotgun, Breaching Ram. Specific tactical pistols that crossperk with Sharpshooter that is what the class will be using when equipping the Riot Shield.

>>383664393
>>383665134

Yeah. I fight the urge to burst but I can't seem to figure out how to aim dual pistols at the heads to rack up the counter. I have a much easier time using the default pistols. Using one of the GS weapons is much easier for whatever reason, but none of the sight options really help me when I pick up the second one.

>>383665426
>hitbox on scrakes are slightly different
Because they stand upright normally. The Monkey Scrake walked around hunched like a gorilla would so it wasn't just a reskin. Also technically Sirens do produce a stock sound and moans when just walking around, its that they're much more subtle than the bearded lady's "wololo" which made it stand out as fuck compared to other sounds.

>>383665473
I think something like a machine pistol to crossperk with another class could work. Maybe bring back the MAC-10 and share it with Firebug. Gunslinger already has a shitload of weapons it crossperks with, a lot of them most won't bother with either.

>Breaching Ram

How would this work, have huge incap values when striking zeds?

>>383665642
thanks for the tips oldtimer

>>383665264
>>383665473
SWATs biggest flaw is that they called him SWAT.

A dedicated smg class is perfectly fine. I welcome it. They split up the sharpshooter and the gunslinger, so why not commando?
However, when you take that smg perk and name it SWAT, you make promises that you arent following up on.

Literally everyone who plays kf2 and sees the SWAT perk immediately expects dank police shit and then immediately gets disappointed. SWAT gives the impression that there will be things like riot shields and tazers and shit. instead all we get is smgs. Closest police stuff we get are the flashbangs.

They should just rename it Trooper or Gunner or something. Then give us a real SWAT perk.

>>383665473
>>383665897
i think a taser pistol would be a more practical choice for an incap weapon

>>383666092
They could call it Spec-ops instead of SWAT or something. But then they'd have to add something to make it more "spec-opy."

>>383665897
Have it do little damage and be super slow to use but have huge as fuck knockdown and knockback, similar to what happens when a Scrake receives a blunt RPG shot to the head, except with much more force to it, and make it so if the flying ZED hits another ZED then it'll knock that one on its ass too.

Basically it would be used as either an emergency escape route opener if you need to go down a hallway that is crowded with ZEDs, or as a means to keep the big guys away from the team and buy everybody time to deal with them properly.

>>383663656
>Heavy gunner class with lmgs when?

They're going with the "MGs for Commando" route which is just as good. Hopefully help differentiate him from SWAT

>Energy weapons based class when?

They used to have an empty "electric weapons" tab during beta and early EA, I don't know if it was scrapped or what

>Martial artist resurrected when?

Never ever. And not before a full Survivalist revamp

>>383666218
Just give it access to the night vision goggles. Done.

I bought this shit the DAY it was released on PS4, I played it for like 2 months at which point the game was dead and I had burnt myself out.

Is it still worth going back? Did the game get resuscitated with the PS+ shit?

>>383665134

Press the alt-fire key and you change to better dual-wield ironsights. Protip for you

>>383664138

Well, it is a wave-based horde shooter

>>383656876
>It should get a slower rate of fire and get penetration on bullets

I don't know how overpowered penetration would be on an automatic, but this doesn't sound too bad to help differentiate the Stoner from other Commando weapons by giving it more of an LMG feel.

>>383666418
You can even make it the default through the options, too.

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Is the game good yet

>>383666594
It was good even in early access.

>>383666594
Yet?

>>383666594
It still has Survivalist.

>>383666594
>completely missed the Summer Sideshow event
Shit man, you dun goofed.

>>383666594
The game is at the best it's been, but you just barely missed an event.

I wonder if you guys realize there's a huge Firebug rework coming

They will probably revisit every perk to give them polish and make their playstyles more unique. KF2 feels rather homogeneous compared to KF1, every perk plays the same

>>383666339
what was the point of the survivalist class??
if youre not gonna serve a role in the team why even play a team game ??

i thought they were going to make a chemist and poison based class that would turn some zeds or something

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>>383664178
>>383664393
i see.

>>383666494
well i used to play the shit out of black ops zombies and that entertained me for years, but after 5 games or so i havent touched KF2

>>383667009
>what was the point of the survivalist class??

They needed to deliver on a last perk before the game left EA and had no time to make new models and animations before the deadline

Hence, Survivalist was born

>>383666923
>>383666848
Well shit, the carny map in KF1 was one of my favourites

>>383666784
What's this perk? Wasn't there in first weeks of EA

>>383666730
>>383666678
I was expecting it to be as fun as KF1 from the start, got a different feeling that time. I'm ready to dwell in again now.

Is medic still god tier like in KF1?

>>383666984
>I wonder if you guys realize there's a huge Firebug rework coming
I don't. Honestly what could they even do to the Firebug right now? It'll either be forever OP with its ground fire or forever UP without it. The only way they could possibly rework it is to introduce the napalm flamethrower of KF1 back and have it be a flame sniper that would catch ZEDs on fire form afar so they're die of the burn before reaching the team like he was in KF1.

>>383666984
Will they bring back the old flamethrower animation and stuff? I tried the KF2 one, and there's this stupid black smoke so you can't see your effective range and blocks zeds from view, potentially causing you to light a scrake. KF1 was miles better.

>>383667214
>Is medic still god tier like in KF1?

Even better than he was on KF1. Kite and survive all day

>>383667259

http://steamcommunity.com/app/232090/discussions/0/2333276539598834255/

>>383667214
>What's this perk?
The perk you use to tell your team that you won't be contributing anything for the duration of the game.