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>DOA5 is Announced with "I'm A Fighter" slogan

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>DOA5 is Announced with "I'm A Fighter" slogan and more modest outfits to signify a shift into a more serious fighter
>Combat is significantly tightened up, fun new male character is added
>Something happens, has now become a parody of its original tone shift with 3 rereleases, (including a F2P version with no story mode and you have to buy all the characters), and 5 straight years of nothing but lewd costume and female character DLC >Fighting balance is thrown to the wayside for more [anime]xDOA costumes as the online is all but dead anyway

What the fuck went wrong and what are the odds of a DOA6?
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Honoka's tits sell better than fighting games
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>>383628535
DOA6 will not be released on PC
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could somebody direct me to some prons with that cgi quality?

NLT media comes close but their girls are ugly as sin
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Marie Rose and Honoka happened
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>>383628535
Is he eating sushi?
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>>383628535
>What the fuck went wrong
They realise people don't buy DoA for a serious fighter.
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>>383629079
But if you read their Facebook page everyone is pissed with how they're milking the game with these endless costume DLCs. Surely they realize tits can't save them at this point
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>>383628535
Whats the story of that pic? This can't be ingame and the watermark is fake or what?
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>>383629395
Why not?
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>>383629427
Umemaro3D
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>>383628535

I bought the collector's edition from Gamestop before it went out of stock and sold the bikini code for $140, then won two more codes which I sold for $120 each. It was a great time.
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>>383629869
Why can't it be in-game in a fighter?
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>>383629961
DOA6 will never be made
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>>383630391

Because there's no way a fighting game would have any lewd moments in it.
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>>383628535
They tried to make it a serious game, but when they did playtesting with the nips they all wondered why it wasn't as sexy, so they went with what sells
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>>383630539
You got me there
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>>383628535
They pandered to Sony fags.
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>>383628535
H-HE'S GIVING HER C-C-CUNNILINGUS!!!
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>That feel when you just wanted to play Zack and Hayabusa
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>>383630493
But it's coming though. They're going to announce it at the end of the Battle Royale. It's coming next year. Please.
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Reminder that Hayashi doesn't have a clue where to go with DOA or NG beyond his initial ideas and is just whoring out the characters in cameos and making KT some money with dlc before they officially declare both series dead at the end of the year.

Screencap this.
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>>383630836
I wish I could be this naiveoptimistic.
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>>383628535
Nobody took it seriously so Team Ninja fell back on ripping off lonely perverts.

Although I don't know what the supposed balance problems are. LR has a lot of character diversity, slow characters are actually doing well.
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>>383628535
D06 please god. I felt lucky enough just to get a 5 but please don't let it die. I just like it as a fighting game even, like just sincerely as a fighting game.

Fuck them for firing Itagaki though, it was bullshit.
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>>383628535
They have no idea what they're doing anymore
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>DOA 6
i would love one. DOA is my favorite fighting series.

they also need Itagaki back
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>>383630876
I really hope someone else steps up as a director. Not that Itagaki was some kind of auteur, but he had a vision and stuck with it and told people to fuck off. He was upfront with his dumb boobs and violence and that was his integrity.

TN pulling a Square-Enix and letting beta surveys totally change Nioh's systems was depressing.
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>>383629787
People can complain all they want but all this DLC whoring wouldn't be happening if it didn't work.
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>>383631010
They've gotta. It's been like 5 years. Man. Cookieface would've done it. Just to compete with Tekken.
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>>383629787
>Surely they realize tits can't save them at this point
But they're making a profit every time. They do it because they can get away with a few lewd costumes a year and the game is constantly making them money.

I figure they'll do DOA6 a while after they finally stop making costumes for 5, but I doubt they have a reason to rush at all.
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>>383631353
>>383631901

It was pretty obvious that Itagaki was the driving force behind TN, and he took a lot of their talent with him when he left. Hayashi just doesn't have the same vision, and his team is weaker. You can't replace an eccentric genius with a merely serviceable replacement and expect the same kind of return.
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>>383631923
I find it bizarre that they keep making DOA5 costumes even after all of the DOAX3 support stopped.
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>>383632224
LR dlc makes money. X3 dlc was free (except for a very few exceptions). Frankly, I'm amazed that they released 22 sets for free, since it was obviously not their original intention, as illustrated with the situation around Set #1.
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>>383631923
Surely not even Japan can continue to support this.. right?
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>>383632215
See I think you could. He completely and miserably fails at something like Ninja Gaiden because he tried to be original but he's a talentless hack with no ideas. But with DOA, 5 was good in no small part because it is so derivative. They took what people liked from a long running series and built on it. Sure, they have lots of stupid and terrible ideas like a garbage stagger escape and comeback mechanics, but the good unoriginal part is still there.

Even without being a good game designer, as long as you play it safe, you could deliver a nice fully-featured DOA that people like and play for years to come. I'm fine with an iterative sequel here. It's been long enough. Just remove stagger escape.
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>>383632457
>paid dlc
For a game made in 3 months of of reused old materials and paid by cucks.
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>>383630659
/thread
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so is the free version worth it at this point? I like the boobs and I want to get into fighting games
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>>383632457
But why the fuck would anyone pay $20 for 15 GUST crossover costumes in a 5 year old game with dead online?
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>>383633278
Worth what? $0? Your leisure time?

Yes.
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>>383632460
They pay ridiculous amounts to bid on used pornstar panties.
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>>383633601
But that's tangible and not easily pirated.
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>>383632460
Yes they can and yes they will. DOA6 wont happen until DLC stops selling and even then it will be just an excuse to reignite interest in the series so they can keep pumping DLC out, which means the base game would be barebones.
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>>383633836
>Releasing games just to make DLC for years
T-the absolute madmen
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>>383633316
I'll admit, in my horny youth, I spent a good deal of money on silly shit that I could jerk off to.

I wish I could go back to talk with that ignorant fool
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>>383634070
But did you ever pay for porn when you had the internet?
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>>383633974
Doing that makes more money than focusing on games. Just look at how much DLC sells for on steam and imagine how much easier it is to make a costume pack or a single character than a full game.
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>>383633836
Didn't work for SFV. KI also stumbled out of the gate.
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>>383634453
I'm old enough to remember when the internet wasn't saturated with free porn.
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>>383634552
It's a genius if shitty business model
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>>383634552
this. costume / cosmetic dlc is the most efficient way to make money without running into problems that could eat up more money.
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>>383628535
>Fighting balance is thrown to the wayside for more [anime]xDOA costumes

Simply not true. Last Round in it's current form is more balanced and arguably better than DOA has ever been.

As for the focus on sexy costumes etc. I think it's the right choice to set it apart - you need something that other fighting games don't have.
>Mortal Kombat - Violence
>Street Fighter - Cartoony Artstyle, 2D animation and fighting style in 3D fighter
>Soul Calibur - Weapons
>etc
>Dead or Alive - Tits

That's why the last KoF failed - nothing unique to set it apart when they dropped the pixelart and went 3D
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>>383634782
Didn't what work SFV?
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I want more Marie Rose!
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>>383629869

It's ingame
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>>383635256
Shipping a barebones game and trying to pump it up with DLC later.
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>>383635719

There's a difference between shipping a barebones game and completing it with DLC and pumping out costumes for an already complete game. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy all these costumes. Why would you even? I get buying some costumes for your mains, but the packs for all costumes?
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>>383636023
Sure, but the point is shipping a barebones game is clearly a bad idea. As long as they don't do that, I'm fine with it.
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>>383635229
Also, Virtua Fighter.
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>>383630659
Just another reason why Hayashi is cancer.
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>>383635719
Yeah, but Street Fighter girls are utter shite.
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>>383638103
I don't think you believe that.
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>>383638278
Oh yes I do, they are disgusting she-hulks. Chun-Li is the worst offender, she looks monstrous. Nobody wanted to see that shit.
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>>383638465
The oceans of porn beg to differ. And Chun-li's just the tip of the iceberg.

SFV may have a disgusting art style, but that doesn't mean the girls themselves are bad.
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>>383637301

Pretty much. How good the gameplay is doesn't matter if the game doesn't sell and fails to grow a playerbase.
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>>383628535
>OP is a fag

Gets me every time.
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I haven't touched DoA5 on steam since release. Can you mod the DLC costumes in? Also are there any nude mods for the steam version? Last I remember that's only possible with the pirated versions or a shitty texture replacement.
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>>383639669
You can't mod DLC costume slots in, but you can swap costumes on the Steam version. So basically yes. Look up lnk reshuffle. There's a tutorial on the Steam forum.
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>>383639384
How well did Tekken 7 do? It seems like NRS has been having the most success recently.
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>>383639384
VF had a good fanbase in Japan at least Sega going full retard killed it there
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>>383640593
What'd they do? Don't know anything about VF.
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>>383631395
I dunno. I want an entirely new director. Do you really want DOA4 again?
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>>383633278
Yes, it's pretty fun. I bought it in the sale and I'm glad i did, still get fights online and i had no idea the story mode was gonna be that entertaining. I suck though.

>Retards taking the bait and ultrasonically complaining about sexy times in a Dead or Alive game.

With each passing day i realize more and more how i should not be in this cesspool of a board. Kill yourselves. It's even a pretty good fighting game and not trash like Tekken where it's about nothing but 50% juggles.
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>>383643406
>Ultrasonically

Fucking lol

I should really pay attention to what autocorrect suggests.
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>>383630876
You're a dick riding faggot.

Doesn't have any idea what to do but managed to make several great Ninja Gaiden games and the best DOA game. You fucking retards and your cookie monster worship are so pathetic.
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>>383643406
>>383643536
>posts the two ugliest DOAs
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>>383643837
Every acceptable game he's made has been hugely derivative. He always has a pre-existing successful pattern to work with and the games tend to be good in spite of his terrible ideas. That's true of NG, DOA, and even with Nioh.

The only game that felt more like his original vision was NG3, and it was terrible. His ideas for the series included a morality system, one weapon, and the idiotic SoB QTE system. When it completely failed, they made RE which relied on NG2's proven mechanics.

He's a hack with no integrity.
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>>383643837
He had some good ideas and made DOA5. And that was the extent of his good ideas. Since then, it's been two rereleases of the same game and $1000+ worth of costume dlc without even an announcement for DOA6.

I won't get into an argument over NG since I haven't played any since NG Black.
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>>383628535
As long as there is a monetized platform to view doa girls in some way, none of that matters economically to the company.
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>>383645240
Are you seriously this fucking retarded that you think DLC has anything to do with the director? He's just the fall guy for everything isn't he?

>>383645207
No fucking shit genius. he picked up an already established franchise. So if he changes things he's to blame, if he keeps things as is, he gets no credit. That's how retards approach this. He literally will never do the right thing in your eyes.

How do you know it was his ideas? regardless if they were, he went back and released a remade version the game for the fans of the series that stands on par with the other entries and has objectively the best gameplay in the series. I mean some directors just drop turds and leave them as turds until they close down the servers after less then a year...

RE does not rely on shit, it builds on the mechanics that were in 2 just like 2 built on 1. It has a lot of unique additions and is further apart from 2 then 2 is from 1.
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There is over $2000 worth of cosmetic DLC for this game.

Have Koei Tecmo no shame?
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>>383646171
Who's forcing you to buy it?
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>>383646235
No one. I wasn't complaining that I have to buy it.

I'm just saying they're shamelessly preying on waifufags with no sense of self-control. It's actually a good business model.
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DOA6 when? I want to fap to uh I mean play Ayane again
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>>383646235
My dick.
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>>383645939
Of course he gets no credit for the things that were good originally that he didn't make. He only gets credit for the things he adds or change and most of then are bad.

We know the extent of his stupidity when it came to NG3 because there are tons of personal interviews and comments that showcase all of his terrible ideas and decisions. Things like how he wanted the one ninpo magic in the game to either make enemies surrender or kill them, how dismemberment was axed because he thought it was unrealistic that a magical ninja could chop someone's arm off, and how he looked like a coward when he went back on that for RE.

I know you're the one guy who raves about RE because of armor break state and Cicada Surge, but you're crazy if you don't think it's fundamentally a return to NG2's gameplay with gore and OTs.

Also RE's combat is still fundamentally broken. Look up Ultimate Ninja challenges.
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>>383646529
What's with this DOA6 meme? Why does it matter when you "just" had DOA5? Fighting games are not the kind of thing you release every 2 years and see any progress. You just want rehashes with a different (shit) coat of pain like Street Fighter?

Graphically the game is already great, i guarantee that you would not see any improvements to the characters models, even now they are still some of the best if not the best around.
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>second Tuesday of the Month
>still no news about this month's DLC

Seems like KT is finally slowing down.
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>>383632750
Fix 5LR on PC first.
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>>383646816
Oh shit are you the Bitch Made Ninja? How's it been bro?

He redeemed himself, that's the only thing that matters to me. NG could have had a DMC2 but instead he went back and fixed everything, you probably can't even find any other example of something similar in the industry.

>Sigma 1
>Sigma 2
>DOA 5
>Razor's Edge

Why should i hate this man again?

What's broken about RE? I mean i know what's broken about it but you're gonna stand here and pretend that those things are any worse then the things in the previous games?
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>>383645939
Not at all. I firmly believe that the decision to whore out the dlc comes from higher up than Hayashi. But where's the next game he should have been working on these last 5 years?
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>>383647612
What he works on is also not up to him.
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>>383647087
It's been 5 (five) years since the original DOA5, The models look great but they were made for the last gen consoles. Plus I unironically want to play it cause I enjoyed it but it needs a new game at this point
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>>383647087
>Fighting games are not the kind of thing you release every 2 years and see any progress. You just want rehashes with a different (shit) coat of pain like Street Fighter?

>vanilla DOA5: 2012
>DOA5 Ultimate: 2013
>DOA5 Last Round: 2015
How is DOA5 any different?
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>>383647835
It really doesn't, you can go play it right now.

It doesn't matter what gen they were made for, you would not see any significant improvement I'm sure of it. If anything you'd get monkey paw shit like your pic related.
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>>383647883
They are incremental versions of the same game each with more content and improvements. They are not pretending to be different games unlike SF.
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>>383641036
VF5 was launched on consoles without any online support, new version of VF5 is launched with online afterwards but the game was dead so nobody cared
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>>383647087
It's a 5 year old last gen game.

Also I want them to remove stagger escape.
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>>383648260
>vanilla SF4: 2009
>SSF4: 2010
>SSF4AE: 2011
>USF4: 2014
>not incremental versions of same game with more content and improvements.

What did he mean by this?
Pretty much every fighting game series nowadays has a base vanilla version main entry, then supplemental upgrades later on. The only ones that don't really are Tekken (which, the console version is the upgraded arcade version), and KOF. This isn't an issue that's exclusive to SF/Capcom.
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>>383648665
>Also I want them to remove stagger escape

Yes fuck that horseshit, i refuse to do it on principle alone. I'd rather get comboed to death than break my controller and thumb
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>>383648092
I just tried playing online and spent about 1 minute searching to get a 1 bar connection on ps4 which I almost lost cause I'm used to Tekken
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>>383648751
I meant that SF5 is fucking gabage that should never have been made, that's what i meant.
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>>383629787
>could literally buy a used car for the price of all the costumes for doa
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>>383647514
I'm probably not that guy but I remember your posts because there's only one person who thinks that RE had the best gameplay.

360 scythe spam completely breaks RE's combat, and since Ultimate Ninja challenges get almost completely impossible with one-hit kill grabs and enemies that can block everything you do, the game devolves into exploiting broken shit really quickly. I don't think anything in the other games was ever this bad. Even Flying Swallow in NG. Yes there's UT spam but you had to plan that around available resources and create space because you had moments of vulnerability.
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>>383649041
I don't disagree. But SF5 isn't a rehash of SF4 with a different coat of paint, and you'd be a fool to think it is.
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>>383635416

>the slight brown mark near her asshole
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>>383649332
It literally is, what changes they made be it aesthetics or mechanics where for the sake of it being a new game. That was exactly my point, you start demanding fighting game sequels and this is what happens. You're the fool if you think companies will not change things jsut so they could say it's new.
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>>383648597
I thought the 360 version had online.
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>>383648973
Kept playing and found some people so I guess it isn't as dead as I thought it was. Still think it needs a new version to keep it interesting tho
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>>383649619
>what changes they made be it aesthetics or mechanics where for the sake of it being a new game
Isn't that the point of making new games?
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>>383648853
I firmly believe that everyone who plays the PC version uses a stagger escape macro and I almost don't blame the filthy cheaters.
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>>383649749
That was the re-release iirc, or the ps3 ver had no online while the 360 did. Then the updated version gave the ps3 online
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>>383649619
What?
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>>383635229
>That's why the last KoF failed - nothing unique to set it apart when they dropped the pixelart and went 3D
It has none of the cringe most current fighters have. Also, tons of edgy fashionable bishounens.
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>>383649270
>I'm probably not that guy but I remember your posts because there's only one person who thinks that RE had the best gameplay.

There isn't. /v/ just has some loud and obnoxious NG autists that can't let go. They (you?) will not even accept this as a valid opinion.

>360 scythe spam completely breaks RE's combat, and since Ultimate Ninja challenges get almost completely impossible with one-hit kill grabs and enemies that can block everything you do, the game devolves into exploiting broken shit really quickly. I don't think anything in the other games was ever this bad. Even Flying Swallow in NG. Yes there's UT spam but you had to plan that around available resources and create space because you had moments of vulnerability.

Then don't be a faggot and spam the 360 scythe move? How is that hard? I don't hear you complaining about the 360 Lunar move in 2, of course you wouldn't.

There is nothing more broken then UT spam, you have got to be fucking joking to be downplaying this nonsense. Seeing as you are complaining about challenges and pretending UT spam is A Ok i can only guess that you are one of those people who's bad at these games but thought he was good because he got through them with the bullshit tactics. You complain about 360 scythe because you think it's the only viable way to play, and that way to play makes it obvious what kind of player you're being.

Why are you even so buttblasted about the challenges? You don't have to complete them, that's why they are called fucking challenges. You think you are entitled to beat them or something? They were not even designed for single player even though they can be beaten that way.
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>dinking around on my vita the other day and booted up DOA5+ for old times' sake
>had a fucking blast just doing cpu vs. matches for a couple hours in bed

I was never good at fighting games, but man I had a lot of fun with 5+ and LR. Something about the fluidity just looked and felt so nice, it's probably my most played fighting game next to Soul Calibur 2. I hope they do make a 6 sometime, partly because it'd probably be fun and partly to see if they somehow manage to top the model quality from 5.
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I still don't get why the fuck they ported the ps3 version to steam and not the ps4 one
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Wait a goddamn minute.. Are you telling me DOA is a fighting game?
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>>383650698
I don't think you could 360 Lunar Staff into itself over and over again. That's why 360s are so much more broken in RE, you can't UT spam infinitely unless you're both lucky and careful with orb drops, whereas you can clear the hardest trials in RE by spamming one move and ninpo over and over again. The Ultimate Ninja trials are the hardest things in the entire game and ridiculously unfair, but they get trivialized by an incredibly stupid trick which works universally, demonstrating exactly how RE's combat is broken and why it isn't the fun kind of broken.

If you have video evidence of anybody clearing one of the later Ultimate Ninja trials solo without resorting to 360 spam, I'll shut up immediately.
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>>383651045
And why they ported it late, didn't add online until way later, and never made lobbies or a way to play with friends.

It really doesn't make any sense. Especially since it should've been easier to port the PS4 version.
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i bought doa for my penis

i dont even have friends to play fighters with
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>>383651428
Are you retarded? You realize the other characters don't have the scythe don't you? Just fucking go to youtube and see for yourself.

How fucking bad are you that you think UT chaining requires any fucking skill? Shit even spamming the fucking scythe requires more skill then that.

The Ultimate Ninja trials are not balanced to be played solo you dumbass, just because you can doesn't mean you will.
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>>383652467
I don't know what you're getting so hostile about, but everybody has invincible 360s, scythe is the best, but I'm pretty sure Momiji gets away with the exact same thing.

UT chaining does require more skill. There's a no-hit NG2 playthrough and the fact that the player has to back off at points and do other invincible moves shows that there is more consideration than blindly spamming 360 scythe, which is why RE is more broken and broken in a less interesting way.

If Ultimate Ninja trials aren't balanced to be played solo, then that's a problem with the balancing and further highlights how exploitable the combat is because people do them solo with 360 spam.
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>>383652852
Have you even played these games? 360 moves with invincibility frames have been around since the second game.

Yes, hiding in a fucking corner and charging an invincible screen wipe move or doing the same instantly over and over because every UT leaves essence for the next one takes a lot of skill. You're a retard, I'm going to bed.

People beat 120 berserkers by moving them off camera, they beat 2 bosses at once by spamming bird flip wall moves, they beat the entirety of the vanilla second game projectile spam by spamming nothing but invincibility frame moves and UTs.

This has been a thing in the series since the beginning. They are just missions outside of the main game with ridiculous odds stacked against you. Have fun by beating them with another player legitimately, beat them yourself if you can, don't beat them at all or or be a massive fucking faggot, cheese your way through them and then go on the internet and bitch about it. It's your choice.

I am not defending the 360 spam, it's another broken thing in a long list of broken exploitable shit in Ninja Gaiden.

I'm being hostile because i don't like you.
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>>383650736
DOA's animations are amazing.
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