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>game
>receives universal praise
>game 2
>receives even more universal praise, vastly improved on everything game did
>GAME: TITLE
>literally fucked the physics, art style, gameplay style, just EVERYTHING about the game
>NOBODY likes it
>"Well, I guess there's no more interest in (game) anymore! Time to move on and make different IPs :^) "
Why the fuck do companies do this
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>>383614457
Amusement Vision will be missed.
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>>383614457
Jesus christ you're making me mad, anon.
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>>383614779
yes
;-;
>>383614878
yes
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>>383614457
none of them were good, just shovelware on a console.
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>>383614959
no
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>>383614457
Super Monkey Ball Deluxe needs to be on Steam.
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>>383615143
>Deluxe
you're part of the problem here anon
deluxe felt like it had about as much effort put into it as the mobile ports
get a gamecube, please
and by a gamecube I mean a wii with nintendon't or just a decent pc with dolphin<3
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>12 minutes since last post
>already page 9
what
help
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>>383614457
Super Monkey Ball 2 is still one of my favorite game

The mini games were awesome too with friends
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So many good game series that died.
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>>383616331
tfw no one to play Monkey Ball with
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>Game 1 is pretty good
>Game 2 improves everything from the first
>Game 3 is even better than 2

Has any series ever done this?
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>>383614457
UMA DELICIA
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>>383616547
Yakuza
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>>383616806
controversial
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>>383616547
There is one series where my brother would say
>Game 1 is complete trash
>Game 2 is complete trash
>Game 3 is the greatest game of all time

>>383614457
OP, we are all angry about what happened to Monkey Ball, but there's nothing that can be done now.

Monkey Target 2 was the best minigame objectively speaking, and SMB2 was an amazing game objectively speaking.

In my opinion it gets very, very hard once you get to the washing machine levels, and that's a good thing by the way. They have a large chunk of easy levels, and a large chunk of difficult levels too.
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>>383616547

Witcher
God of war
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>>383615240
I actually own both 1 and 2 on Gamecube. Wasn't aware there was problems with Deluxe. Regardless 1 and 2 (especially 2) need to be on Steam with online play.
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Sonic may have bad recent games, but I ca respect them for at least trying to fix mistakes and trying new things, even if they do turn out like utter shit (Sonic Boom)
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>>383616936
Timesplitters arguably fits that trilogy model, although I prefer 2.
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I liked Banana Blitz
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>>383616936
>washing machine levels
>hard
washing machine levels are just the definition of "pay attention, take it slow and steady, and make the right choices"
if you had trouble with them you have ADHD.
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>>383617037
nugget
1 and 2 are literally perfect in dolphin, and iirc dolphin does netplay.
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>>383616547
MGS
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>>383617087
I don't even know how many Monkey Ball games there are.

The ones I recognize:
Super Monkey Ball (high-tier)
Super Monkey Ball 2 (better-tier)
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (shit-tier)

How many others are there? Are they good or bad?
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>>383616547
>>383616936

In my eyes, Grand Theft Auto is a perfect example of this. Some people of course claim that 2 > 3 but I feel like the step into 3D was pretty great

As far as the numbered GTAs go, I'd even go as far as saying that 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
Obviously, I have to leave out San Andreas and Vice City because these would easily take first or second place
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>>383616716
SOPA
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>>383617193
the good ones:
>1
>2
>the GBA one believe it or not
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>>383614457
there's several other monkey ball games after adventure. are they so bad that you're ignoring them? i find that hard to believe if you mentioned adventure.
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>>383617193
Adventure, Touch and Roll, 3D and the mobile games
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>Game 1 is a masterpiece
>Game 2 is a masterpiece
>Game 3 never exists because the company split and the rights for the franchise are probably all over the place, and even if someone could make the game, the interest is long gone since it was a niche game at the time

Bonus points if you can't even talk about the game here cause some dumb autism meme posting related to the game always starts showing up when trying to talk about it
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>>383616806
3 is the worst game in the series.
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>>383616547
no.
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>>383616547
Halo
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>>383616547
Sonic
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>>383617589
Klonoa, is that you?
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>>383616547
Crash Bandicoot
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>>383614457
Banjo Kazooie
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>>383617589
I'm curious what you're thinking of here
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>>383616547
Mother
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>>383617589
fucking darksiders.
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>>383614457
because someone petulant manchild higher up at the company doesn't like the series and wanted to sabotage it.
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>>383618665
hhhhhhhhhhhh
you're not wrong at all
it hurts
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>>383616547
Red Faction
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>>383618385
nolf? though I'm not sure if the rights are all over.
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>>383614457
if a franchise appears to have lost its fanbase due to their shitty decisions when it came to making a game and it failing miserably, rather than returning to its roots to reboot it theyd rather just dump it and move to something to see if that would work
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>>383617589
half life 2 3?
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>>383618708
sometimes companies make dumb decisions. miyamoto pulls this shit all the time. that's the only excuse for wii version of TP being mirrored.
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>>383614457
dino crisis?
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>>383616547
DonPachi
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>>383618708
either that or the creator doesn't want to make them anymore and wanted a scapegoat so he wouldn't receive death threats. like wacky deli.
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>>383616547
Sanic
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The PS Vita monkey ball is too easy but ultimately is not a bad game
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>game
>interesting take on a spinoff, fun dialogue and battle system
>game: story based title
>keeps all the charm of game while refining the already strong gameplay and writing even further, and introducing a colorful entirely new cast of characters and settings
>super game
>changes the gameplay genre completely and does not feature any of the new ideas presented in game: story based title, though the writing is still okay
>game: gimmick based title
>backpedals to something that looks similar to the old gameplay style, except in reality the best parts of it have been gutted and replaced with a poorly executed gimmick mechanic, and the writing has completely nosedived
>game: gimmick based title
>writing is able to regain some of its life, but the gameplay is yet another shell of the original's system with a poorly executed gimmick mechanic in place of design that worked perfectly fine
I fucking hate you kensuke tanabe
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>>383614457
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>make bunch of games
>suddenly one game becomes a hit
>make few sequels to it
>they become huge bestsellers
>make a bit different sequel
>it sucks
>welp, I guess we need to try again
>make another sequel
>it sucks
>welp, I guess we need to try again
>make another sequel
>it sucks
>welp, I guess we need to try again

not every gaming company needs to be Team 17, sometimes you gotta admit that one game released 20 years ago is the best you could do and move on
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>>383618093
I agree, but just wanted to say that Sonic 3 on its own is actually pretty boring. It's the worst half of S&K
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>>383617589
I'd really prefer it if you be quiet
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>>383614457
>game
>receives universal praise
>game 2
>receives even more universal praise, vastly improved on everything game did
>GAME: TITLE
>literally fucked the physics, art style, gameplay style, just EVERYTHING about the game
>EVERYBODY likes it
Casuals gonna casual.
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>>383614457
Was Adventure really that bad?
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>appeal to an audience that scruntizes everything you do and has high standards

or

>appeal to an audience that'll eat whatever shit you plop down in front of them

The choice is clear.
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>>383620589
ok so like
have you played the original sonic the hedgehog
have you played Sonic 4 (the new-ish 2d abortion)
that's about what the physics difference feels like
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>>383619939
SEEEEGAAAAA
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>>383620619
>appeal to an audience that will worship you forever
vs
>appeal to an audience that will buy 50k copies from the walmart clearance rack and then not remember what your game is even called after playing it for 10 minutes and selling it to gamestop so they can buy sushi
The choice is reddit spacing :^)
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>>383618294
2 is the best crash game

3 had too many bullshit gimmicky levels with motorcycles and airplanes and shit. they just weren't fun
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>>383619951
I'd say both Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles by themselves are still better than 1 or 2, though obviously 3&K is best.
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>>383617589

System Shock?
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>>383620737
When will this meme die?
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>>383620791
you're objectively wrong
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>>383621171
What meme, the "reddit posters generally have worse opinions and divide the community" meme?
Probably when they stop having generally worse opinions and dividing the community.
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>1 is the best one out of all, but 2 and 3 get progressively worse

Any games that do this? One that I can come up is fucking Ty the Tasmanian Tiger
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>>383622038
How isn't 2 and improvement over 1
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>>383621223
Nah, he's right.
>scuba levels are too sluggish to be fun
>challenge in motorcycle levels comes more so from dealing with stiff controls rather than anything legitimate
>the airplane levels are boringly easy
>jetski levels are again boringly easy aside from that one secret level
Would have rather had more platforming levels.
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>>383616547
Halo
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>>383616547
The Legend Of Zelda
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>>383620647
>new-ish
Episode 1 came out in 2010, anon.
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>>383616547
dkc 3
metroid
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>>383621223
He's completely correct, even Naughty Dog themselves said as much
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>>383616547
dark souls
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>>383620791
1 is the best crash.
2 had too many bullshit gimmicky polar bear levels. they just weren't fun.
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>>383621268
He said, dividing the community
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>>383622038
final fantasy
breath of fire
doom
deus ex

lots of games really.
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>>383616547

Most older generation games fall under this, it's PS2/GC/Xbox era on when the roots of franchise deaths began and we had a lot of publishers forcing their devs to try and "adapt" to the new market set upon us by the concept of a blockbuster game.

The closest equivalent game market shift was the transition to 3d worlds where once again, publishers pushed their devs into the pool to force them to learn to swim and a lot just drowned.
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>>383623978
meh, not really.
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>>383624119

To which part? Final Fantasy was a straight upgrade every release, so was Mario, Sonic, Metroid, the multitude of Capcom + Konami franchises etc.
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