Why are so many characters in Bloodborne blind, or at least wear

To be edgy.

>>383607608
maybe it has something to do with how the disease spreads

See no evil

Lovecraftian (God is blind)

>>383607782
But there are also blind NPCs with no sign of the disease at all.

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>trying to find logic in memezaki's games

Just enjoy it man

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maybe they didn't have enough eyes

>>383607608
Who needs physical eyes to distract you when you have eyes on the inside?

Why do Souls characters have such a dark sense of humor?

>>383607608
because the first thing that shows you're infected is the beastly eyes you develop, they're not blind, just hiding it.

>they don't call me father GAScoigne for nothing!
>*uses fart attack*
Really the blindfold was the least offensive part of that fight

>>383607608
maybe to symbolize characters who have enough insight to not need their eyes to see

There's a description of the blindfold from the Choir attire mentioning some tribute to Wilhem, something about "our eyes are yet to open"

>>383608150
name five (5) characters

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>see americans playing BB
>"gas-cone-ay"

>>383608171
This and trying to gain insight are the most likely reasons.

To make themselves less like beasts

Didnt some piece of writing or item lore say something about how true sight is not in ones vision or some bullshit.

>tfw want a story driven game set in the Bloodborne universe
So few games get the gothic horror feeling right, and I want to explore and uncover more about the world in a way more similar to traditional rpgs.

Are there even any good gothic/cosmic horror games on the market? The closest seems to be Sunless Sea/Fallen London and even that takes a lot more of the cosmic lean.

>Were we're going, we don't need eyes

>>383607608
It's so they don't get plucked into the Hunter's Nightmare. Hunter's go mad and become Blood Drunk. Their eyes become mushy and pupils collapse.

Without covering their eyes they are snatched away by the Amygdalas.

I imagine that it isn't a blindfold and that they can still see through the cloth.

Or perhaps eyes on the inside allow a hunter to gain a new sense that lets them act without vision.

either way this is the reason they cover their eyes.

It was a superstition spread via rumors. Those that didn't cover their eyes disappeared quickly.

Similar to the theory that the beast sickness crawled up the right leg.

leading to hunters inhibiting bloodflow from their right legs.

to them downright cutting their leg off when seriously fearing infection - hence why there are so many trapped in wheelchairs in Yharnam

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>>383608409

Eyes (and the removal thereof) are a big theme in the game. The pebbles are petrified eyes. The use eyes in chalice rituals. They show you becoming a beast.

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>>383608585

>>383608139
>>383608246
Then explain characters with no insight wearing blindfolds like the Beggar? Or explain characters with plenty of insight who don't wear blindfolds?

>>383608171
Explain Annalise or Djura, who have no sign of infection, nor any reason to hid it if they did?

>>383608585
Plenty of non-hunters wear blindfolds.

>>383607608
ashen blood
blood transfusions were popular in the city because it could heal anything from injury to disease, it got so popular that the people started drinking blood instead of alcohol (alcohol was still drunk)
the city got isolated because of how outsiders thought what they were doing was wrong which also led to the people being suspicious of outsiders
then one day the ashen blood disease happened and pretty much afflicted everyone in the city

tl,dr: the people of yarnham drank blood because it healed wounds and illnesses alike and were infected with the ashen blood disease which transformed them into beasts

>>383608842
>Then explain characters with no insight wearing blindfolds like the Beggar?
See >>383608171
>explain characters with plenty of insight who don't wear blindfolds?
Difference of belief? Wilhelm thought the path to the great ones was through insight, Laurence decided it was through blood. Perhaps There's a difference in just how high in the church they are. The choir for instance all have blindfolds. But the school of Mensis use the cages as "conductors" for the great ones.

>>383607608
>"The eye of a Blood-Drunk Hunter. Its pupil is collapsed and turned to mush, indicating the onset of the scourge of beasts."
People that have started to succumb to the scourge have eye issues as the first sign. They either want to hide their eyes, protect them since they're useless anyways, or might be more sensitive to light since they can't contract their pupils anymore.

>>383608842
The Beggar wears the same headpiece as The Harrowed Hunter Simon implying that the Beggar was once a servant of the church with a lot of meaning.

Having Insight has nothing to do with becoming Blood Drunk and being snatched I don't know where you are coming from with that.


Annalise covers her face because it is disfigured


Djura is an Old Hunter, you don't wait until you are Blood Drunk to cover you eyes. That would be too late.


And plenty of non hunters have heard of the superstition.

>>383608409
>be dumb american
>not sure how to pronounce
>come up with nicknames
>"Papa Guacamole"

It is the Blood Moon which advanced the transformation into a beast once you have taken the old blood. They wear it to slow down the effects and try to remain human.

With regard to normal people having no eyes, it could be that because the church wants to further explore the chalice dungeons, they're in need of a large amount of bloodshot eyeballs, which say "An exquisite eyeball removed quickly after death, or perhaps even before."

The witches also seek to take eyes, especially the witches of hemwick that have a place where they take eyes down the stairs where you find the rune workshop tool (incidentally, you're able to buy bloodshot eyeballs after killing the witch of hemwick)

It could also be that with the blood they've been taking, they're seeing things and going insane and blindfold themselves/remove their eyes in an attempt to make it stop.

Point is; there's a fuck ton of reasons why one might wear a blindfold or have no eyes in this game world.

>way to use access the Cathedral Ward via the Great Bridge even though it's literally directly below the Cathedral Ward, you can fucking climb up to it
>You can even summon Gascoigne for the Cleric Beast fight
>no way to save Gascoigne
>Gascoigne killed his wife
>Both of his daughters die if you interact with them at all regarding their mother's brooch

Why Miyazaki, why do you hate happiness so much.

>>383609237
Did you have difficulty with vicar amelia? I've seen plenty of people pronouncing "vicar" wrong or not knowing what it is and thinking it's her name.

>>383609163
Explain why superstitious characters like Gehrman don't cover their eyes?

Or why characters particularly vulnerable to infection like Eileen and Iosefka don't?

>>383607608
Similar to how The Plague was so terrifying that people thought just looking at it would cause infection

father gazza is the correct pronunciation

>>383609585
Why did Amelia turn into that beast?

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>>383609509
>can never save his daughters
This is what truly affected me. His story was depressing enough with finding his wife and such, but then interacting with the daughters and even when trying to save one and direct them to safety, they die horribly.
They were too innocent for this world.

>>383608549
The story of bloodborne absolutely destroys every cosmic horror game ever made, it's better than the source material

>>383607608
Because it's supposed to be cool and edgy and just a very Japanese thing to do.

why did humans become dog like beasts anyway? Didnt the old blood come from Ebrietas and she looks like a squid caterpillar

>>383609592
Gehrman was the first hunter.

We only fight and see him in The Hunter's Dream


He could have at one point covered his eyes like the others.

The other thing is even though Gehrman is missing a leg that might not be his own doing. The Moon Presence might have taken that from him as it does to us in the second ending to the game.

It is a good question why Iosfeka doesn't cover her eyes and I think the answer is simply that she probably doesn't cut people open that often.
she seems to experiment on her patients with concoctions more than anything.

And of course perhaps the devs didn't think that far into it.


Eileen already covers her eyes with the plague doctor mask.

>>383608549
>So few games get the gothic horror feeling right, and I want to explore and uncover more about the world in a way more similar to traditional rpgs.
i doubt it will turn out well, the basis of all lovecraft horror is DUDE IT'S SO BAD I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE IT WORDS AREN'T ENOUGH which makes it infinitely better suited to actiony games where you face the horror without thinking too hard about it

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>>383609869
What if you just don't tell them anything. The younger daughter will stay, and her older sister will come home.

Just because you get (no response) doesn't mean that they're dead, they could be sleeping. In the wake up sunrise ending, I bet the majority of Yharnamites survived and they lived on as cranky Yharnamites spitting on outsiders

>>383609774
She was too weak of faith
And misunderstood the purpose of the pendant

>>383609984
From what I gathered the scourge of beasts was more related to ashen blood(according to the antidote's flavor text) over anything else(happened in Loran too) and the blood ministration was supposed to help solve it but maybe only delayed it?

>>383610097
All you can do is assume one thing or the other, and given the events of the game, it's safe to assume they don't make it.

>>383609926
No it is not. Bloodborne doesn't hold a candle to Lovecraft. It certainly blows the post-Lovecraft mythos out of the water though. Only things that can compete are Eldritch Horror, really.

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I think it's mentioned in some description about Willem or something, but they believed that by blinding themselves, they would look inward, hence gaining eyes on the inside (insight).

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>>383609713
Gazza was always blooddrunk too from the look of it

>>383607608
Because they're the game's way of telling you that you're a blind fucking retard for having fallen for the Pee Ass 4 meme

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>>383609926
>sonybros think bloodborne even QUALIFIES as cosmic horror

>>383610284
I've read all of Lovecraft's major works many times. The only reason I got Bloodborne was because how important Lovecraft is to me. Bloodborne absolutely without a doubt destroys the source material and shows the untapped potential in Lovecraft's ideas.

>>383609163
Then again Djura only had one eye covered so I don't think he was infected it was more likely he was missing an eye.

>>383610246
How did Ashen Blood come about though? Would Ashen Blood not look like paleblood? From what I gather the Church used Ebrietas' blood as the source of Blood Healing.

>>383608409
I'm American and I've never pronounced it like that.

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>>383610508
>t. Sickdark-fag

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>>383610246
Old Yharnam and it's fall were what triggered the spread of the scourge of beasts.

I don't think that the Ashen Blood Sickness had anything to do with turning people into beasts.

Ashen Blood could have been poison from the healing church in an attempt to be able to treat the populace with massive amounts of blood.

>>383609585
V-eye-car Amelia, right?
I didn't actually have 'trouble' with Gascoigne, because I've read some books here and there and the name has popped up, and I learned it then, but I did make fun of it with my roommate when we first got Bloodborne. Americans see an "E" on the end of a word and it gets them thinking, and to have an "OI" which has like 3 or 4 pronunciations fucks with some people. "GN" is highly uncommon as well.

>>383610193
>too weak of faith

>implying that the strongest of faith don't become the most terrible of beasts

>>383607608
Because sight distracts from smell. Scent is mentioned multiple times in the game.

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>>383607608
It's a Japanese grim dark game, they just throw blindfolds and hats on everyone because it looks cool. You're looking way too deep into it.

>>383610708
I thought Mergo was the source of the Beast Scourge?

>>383610758
>V-eye-car

Vi-ker, with a short i.

>>383610758
Vicar is pronounced "vick-er" and is a position in a church, like a priest. (as far as I know, it's only within the church of England, but it might extend to other parts of Europe)

>>383608409
I call him Gaston

>>383610758
>V-eye-car Amelia, right?
V-ick-ar.

>>383608549
There's the What a Beautiful VNs but only two and the spinoff are translated.

>>383608409
How do you pronounce it? American here, pronounced it gas coin or gas key O nay

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>>383610758

>>383611179
Gas-coin

>>383610928
>>383611030
>>383611134
FUCK

>>383610787
Only because they'd partake in communion the most, and with the "highest quality" blood.

I was just poking fun that she transforms while clutching a pendent made from a rare and special gem that amplifies damage against beasts and reciting a prayer endlessly trying to hold off the transformation.

>>383611043

i-its gas-coin right guys? or is it gas-con?

>>383611179
Italian here, we pronounce it Papa Gas-Cou-Ne

>>383611372
it's Gaskwang

>>383611372
Gas-qwon

>>383611179
Gas coin is right. You hear the correct pronunciation when you speak to eileen after you help her with the fight in Gascoigne's boss room

>>383611372
It's like a nasally gas-coin. I don't know how to describe the sound other than the coin starts out in your nose.

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From Software clearly has a foot fetish and a blind fetish

Probably watched too much avatar

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>>383611434
>Papa Gas-Cou-Ne il Guascone
laughing irl here

Gah - scone - genie

I would like to read some of Bloodborne's lore. I still don't get what the fuck the Moon Presence and Gerhman want.

>>383608409
o b s e s s e d

>>383611648
Google the paleblood hunt

>>383609926
I agree, especially when you consider how it was marketed and that the cosmic twist was so excellently hidden but yet obvious

>>383611648
Gehrman's just a puppet of the moon presence, you take his place if you kill him but don't have the umbilical cords to resist it. From what I gather, it wants to stop Mergo and the rituals that are going on over there. Perhaps due to some power struggle between the Old Ones or something, but that's somewhat the point, their desires are beyond our comprehension.

>>383608150
Because they have dark souls

I'm going to need some Vocarros for the following names:

>Father Gascogine
>Vicar Amelia
>Ebrietas
>Kos
>Ptumerian Ihyll

>>383611648
Gerhman wants to get rid of the beasts.

The Moon Presence doesn't understand humans at all and has weird logic that doesn't make sense to us either.

Gerhman and friends called the Moon Presence to help them get rid of the beasts.

The Moon Presence says "Okay" and enslaves them to a never-ending nightmare so they can assist hunters and bring them back to life over and over during a hunt to kill beasts.

If you kill Gerhman, the Moon Presence still wants to help, so it tries to enslave you too.

Outer god logic is weird.

They dont need eyes to see

>>383611648
Moon presence is essentially an opportunistic Great One who has his own motives, and took control of Gehrman and confined him and other hunters inside of the Dream so that they would do his dirty work. The motives are obscure because Lovecraft.

>>383607608
being blind is cool in edgy murder games

>>383611893
>Padre Gwaskwang
>Veekar Amelia
>Hebrewtias
>Kosm
>"Spitting sound" Heehee

>>383611893
Father Gas-coin
Vick-er A-mee-lee-a
Eb-ree-tas
Koz (as in cosmos without the "mos")
thu-meh-ree-an ill (elongated i)

That's how I pronounced them.

>>383611893
>ebrietas
friend of mine says "EE-brih-TOSS"

>>383612159
The fuck?

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Alright lads? This ain't a bad thread, fancy pronouncing my name while you're at it? Cheers.

>>383608585
Post source

>>383611893
Gaskwañ
veekuhr Ameeliuh
Ehbreeehtahs
Kos or some say, Kosm
Pthumerian Eehill

>>383612226
yeah, I know. He looked at it and went "too many vowels, I'll just pick and choose."

>>383607608
enhances the ability to smell blood. they're basically werewolves bro

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I don't think any game has ever taken me so long to beat

>>383611951
>>383611912
>>383611810
Last questions:

Maria killed herself because of Kos right?

What the fuck is Mergo and what the fuck does it want?

>>383612307
Smuff

>>383611893
>Gas-Coin
>Vick-car Ah-meal-E-uh
>Ebb-re-toss
>Kosm
>Th-oom-air-ian E-hill

>>383608231
>the do not call me farther GAScoine for no reason
>*gasses the jews*

>>383612307
Like snow with m
So smow

>>383612307
Smuu

>>383612363
Mergo is an outer god and a baby.

It doesn't want anything except a mom, because it's a baby.

Gerhman : Moon Presence :: Micolash : Mergo

>>383612363
Mergo is the baby of an Old One, created by using an umbilical cord to enact a ritual by the college of mensis (sect of the healing church), or at least that's my understanding.

>>383608409
obsession

>>383612307

Like the dragon.

>>383607759
This. //end thread

>>383612307
It's a pun on sumo, like a sumo wrestler. "Sm-oh"

>>383612429

i've been saying eh-brie-ah-tus

>>383611893
Father Gas-coin
V-ick-er Amelia
Ebb-ree-eh-tas
Koz (just watch Nick Cage's boss fight, he says it)
Thoo-merry-an Ee-hill

>>383611179
It's very close to the first, more like: gas-coyne.

>>383607608
diversity. sjws at game dev companies want """"DIFFERENTLY ABLED"""" people to be featured in games

>>383610028
Gherman cut his own leg off. The old hunter trousers have a bunch of belts on one of the legs, and it explains that it was an old myth that the beast blood crawls up the right leg

>>383612745
HelIo reddit falseflagger

>>383612363
Maria killed herself because she participated in the slaughter and dissection of a poor village of yokel, and may have killed a god and its child.
She also oversaw a facility dedicated to trying to mutate people in order to learn, without a definite goal in mind.

>>383612643
That's how I originally pronounced it, but two of my friends say it the other way, and now I say it that way.
I don't know which is more right.

>>383612752
I don't think so. You lose your leg if you become enslaved too.

>>383612363
Mergo is a Great One that was likey the result of Oedon impregnating Yharnam (the Pthumerian Queen). Somehow Mergo died a stillbirth, and somehow the Mensis school is trying to come into direct contact with Mergo as they see that as the way to ascend (Great Ones can't really be killed, their physical manifestations in our world can be destroyed but their consciousness still lives on). Mergo is the current source of the Nightmare and the Beast Scourge.

I still don't understand why the Moon Presence looks like it's half decayed.

>>383612928
The same reason Ebrietas has spaghetti for a face; there is no reason.

>>383611893
Gas-coin
Am-e-lee-uh
eh-bree-tus
cos
fur-merry-an hill

By the way, Amelia is a really common name. I don't understand how you can't know it already.

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>Playing the DLC in NG+
>Get fucking raped by Laurence, Ludwig and THE FUCKING LIVING FAILURES
>171 blood level with 53 VIT

How did you guys do it? Please no Chalice Dungeons.

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>>383612912
>Great Ones can't really be killed
Lovecraft please.

>>383613049
Yes, chalice dungeons. Having the best gems is essential.

>>383612928
That's the point. It's a Great One, you cannot comprihend it.

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>>383613049
>first time DLC
>NG+
>kill ludwig first try
>kill maria first try
>kill orphan first try
>laurence kills me over 10 times
But I did do chalice dungeons and have good gems.

>>383612928
for extra spookiness

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>>383613049
Ludwig is straight buffoonery in phase one.

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>so few bloodborne threads these days
>never get to post builds any more

Is the Third Umbilical Cord you find in the Abandoned Old Workshop the one Gehrman and his Hunters took from Kos?

>>383608409
if they wanted people to pronounce it right they wouldn't make it impossible to pronounce right

>>383613357
Best theme though. Ludwig the Accursed is great.

>>383613384
I thought that one to be what created the hunter's dream. Not sure how he got it.

>>383613363
haha he's making a funny face

>>383607608
Insight makes you see spooky shit that drives you mad

>>383613389
It's only "impossible" if you're a dumb americuck.

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>>383613357
You know, BB would be one of my favorite games if it wasn't for this shit. I am really upset right now. My first fight with Ludwig was 10/10, with no bullshit instakills or anything. Now, i had to use the Pizza slicer and stunlock him till he died because one charge or retarded flailing could kill me instantly.

>>383613212
I literally yelled at my tv the words "I HATE YOU' with tears in my eyes while fighting disabled Laurence. Killed him by throwing my entire inventory on him since i missed my shot with my 10+ canon.

>>383613049
I've beaten the DLC multiple times on multiple NG+s with different characters without ever stepping foot in a chalice dungeon, so don't worry. If you really need better gems you could always farm the winter lanterns outside Mergo's Loft or use the ones found throughout the Nightmare of Mensis.

>>383613476
The Moon Presence created the Hunter's Dream. Actually, do they ever explain Eileen? She tells you she does not dream anymore, and if you fuck up her quest and she becomes hostile, she will tell you to "say hello to the Doll for me" if she kills you. How did Eileen escape the dream?

>>383613693
It's funny because on my next DLC playthrough, it wasn't on NG+ and I had more trouble with the other 3 and killed Laurence on the first attempt. (failed experiments don't count, because they're kind of a pathetic boss anyway)

>>383613693
Why? The chalice dungeons are fun. I especially like the defiled chalice, it slaps your shit until you stop relying on the rally system to gain back health.

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>>383613703
To the winter lanterns then.

>>383613693
I'm not proud to admit that many of my BB boss fights ended me flipping off the screen, popping off, and telling them to get fucked.

>>383613808
I hate that there was no actual Clocktower to climb. Maria being right in front of Living Failures just screamed "time and budget constraints" to me. I feel like the DLC needed another area, it is painfully short.

>>383613757
The same way you do if you accept Gehrman's offer.

The part about you not remembering is a straight up lie.

>>383613874
Just remember three important things, Sedatives, Frenzy resist runes and visceral attacks. Good luck, anon.

>>383613874
Just remember one thing. Spend all of your insight.

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>>383614178
Thanks, those assholes always fucked my shit up. I'm looking foward to getting good against then.

>>383614251
They drain my insight right? Fuck, i guess i'll buy materials or clothes.

>>383614483
>They drain my insight right?

No, but frenzy attacks do more damage faster the higher your insight is, and Winter Lanterns have the strongest frenzy attack in the game. Even with no insight it's dangerous, but with a lot of insight it's significantly harder to deal with.

>>383614702
>wait for Lantern to do the lunge grab
>dodge behind them
>their recovery is 10 minutes, more than enough time to land a charged R2
>Visceral through the Frenzy proc

>>383610284

Lovecraft is complete garbage. It has hardly any literary value whatsoever, but his lore is outstanding. Most of his stories have the exact same structure because he self-inserts in most of them and always try to play the pov of a human getting freaked out by pretty much anything that happens. He also hardly ever knew how to properly end a story in a way that didn't make me flat out laugh due to how cheesy and predictable it sounded like. The world will forever be grateful for his lore, but Bloodborne is easily better than anything he came up with.

>>383614702

I didn't find that little detail out until after fighting several of them with max insight.

I felt pretty damn stupid.

>>383608585
No, Willem wore a blindfold and so did the entire roster of the Choir, and none of them were blood-drunk. This theory holds no water. LITERALLY the answer to OP's question is found in:

>>383607608
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Blindfold+Cap
>The eye covering indicates their debt to the teachings of Master Willem, even though their paths diverged

Blindfolds are a part of the Healing Church uniform because Willem wore one. Willem himself wore one to reduce his reliance on his physical 2 eyes and thus train his insight. There, end of story.

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>>383611893
>tfw French and have no issues with those names

>>383614997
>t. read one story by Lovecraft and thinks he knows the entire mythos
m8 jump off a bridge. Bloodborne hits all the same beats, has even MORE self-insertion since it's a video game, and retreads the themes put forth by Lovecraft in a less impactful way.

>tfw played Bloodborne 5 times without realizing you can summon Gascoigne for Cleric Beast

>>383607608
Fromsoft doesn't like doing facial animations. That's why the only eyes you ever see in soulsborne cutscenes are those of Gwyn and Patches, every other character wears a hood, helmet or blindfold.

>>383617451
Forgot abyss watcher.

>>383607608
Because they have too much insight and afraid of going insane by being exposed to alien beings from other planes.

>>383608839
>>383612320
>>383616440
Read this

I have no doubt that Willem covered his eyes to look inwards there are plenty of reasons people cover their eyes in Bloodborne

But the reason hunters (not the Choir) but regular church hunters and Yharnamites do it is because of the superstition.

>>383610841
I said it triggered the spread of the beast scourge not the that it was the source.

>>383619080
Source of Beast Scourge is the Moon Presence

>>383607910
yeah, I mean it might be a way of avoiding getting a disease.
like how surgeons wear masks on their mouths to avoid spreading germans

>>383609926
>it's better than the source material
Get a load of this madman.

>>383608231
Honestly that wasnt nearly as bad as when you entered the boss fight with Rom the Vacuumous spider and they made you play through the entirety of luigi's mansion

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>>383608231
>>383620376

>>383609984
someone in a thread similar to this one said how the transformation reflects the victim. The yharnamites wander the streets in packs so they turn to wolves, Ludwig was chivalrous and honorable so he became a horrible horse monster and since gascoigne was barely lucid as a human he only got bigger and hairier

>>383608842
Annalise most likely has the helmet to prevent her from consuming blood dregs, which is rendered null when you 'free' her.
Djura has lost only one eye, so it may be a battle wound or something,

>>383620651
How did they get Ebri-chans blood?

>>383620651

Yeah, sounds like bullshit. Lions and elephants also travel in 'packs'.

Why do some say Kos and others Kosm?

>>383607608
Because human eyes are fake eyes

>>383621130
two valid variants on the word "Cosmos"

>>383620965
Not him but if i'm not mistaken Willem and his gang found Old blood in the labyrinth. Maybe the Old blood is not from Ebrietas? I think the Choir were the ones who found her.

>>383610508
Name 15 of his major works, then. I'll know if you look it up in the internet.

>>383607608
You've got it all wrong, OP, they removed their eyes because the world around them is madness.
The blindfolds just hide their gouged eye-sockets.

It's Kos. Even the dude at the Fishing Hamlet says "by the wrath of mother Kos"

Gas Coin. You're really dumb, amerifats.

>>383621169
No, this is false, and easily shown because that pun doesn't carry over into the original JP script (the subs in the japanese version of the game)

>>383621257
Some say Kosm

>>383621191
>I'll know if you look it up in the internet

No you won't.

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>>383621257
Maybe the Fishman is retarded????

>>383620965
Ah yes the elephant stampedes in Victorian England were rampant during those times.
Dog's existed in those places, loins didn't. It wouldn't make sense to have a pack of zebras running around Yharnam.

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Why are so many female characters in From games barefoot?

>>383621401
Go away Micolash you forgot everything.

>>383621176
Old blood and pale blood are two different, rival strains. One led to beasts, the other led to kin

>>383621440
Name 15, then. I'll know if you look it up in the internet.

>>383621482
But Old Blood stems from Ebrietas, who is an Great One (Kin)

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>>383607608
To cover the fact that their pupils are collapsing and they're nearing beasthood.

>>383621327
Only "some" said Kosm, most of these people were dumb

>>383621482
Pale blood from Ebri. Who's responsible for the Old blood?

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>383620706
So Annalise canonically slurps bloody sperm? What a whore. No wonder Alfred wanted to purge that filth.

>>383621482
Paleblood is merely a descriptor of what your blood looks like after you become a Kin. There isn't a walmart catalogue of eldritch blood types out there. There is only the Old Blood.

Blood without insight = beast
Blood with insight = Kin
3 Third Cords = Great One

>>383621402
>Dog's existed in those places

So were they transforming into dogs, or wolves? Those are not the same animal, dipshit.

It's a shit theory. You can't say groups of people turn into wolf monsters because they travel in groups without acknowledging that there are numerous other types of animals that live in social groups.

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>>383621440
Miyazaki has a foot fetish.

>still mad that Priscilla was meant to be your level up maiden ;-;

>>383621659
Old Blood is from Ebri. The Healing Church communes with Ebrietas who gave them the way of Blood Healing. This is why Willem tells Laurence to "Fear the Old Blood", hell Old Blood may be the source of the Ashen Blood disease. The game is very vague.

>>383621356
>>383621531
CEASE THIS MOCKERY RIGHT NOW

It probably speeds up insight gain if you block your human-level vision.

>>383621676
MEEEEEEOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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>>383621440

>>383621819
Ashen blood = beasthood. The two are not different things. Old Yharnam fell to beasthood and the early warning signs were ashen blood. Take a sample of someone who's on the verge of succumbing to the plague and their blood isn't red or pale, but sickly.

>>383621720
Umbilical cords give Great One stem cells.

>>383621737
Because it's almost like this is a fiction video game, and putting random animals into Victorian England would break the immersion. Not everything has to be taken so literally.

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>>383621720
>Yes i would like 15 vials of paleblood with some eyes. No, i don't have a hunter badge and no i don't want to get one.
>Excuse me minister, but there's some vermin on my vials.

>>383621720
Paleblood was literally blood, it was referring to the moon.

>>383622015
>Not everything has to be taken so literally

That's exactly what that dumb theory is doing, and why I'm saying it's wrong.

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A HUNTER IS A HUNTER EVEN IN A DREAM

Is this the game that started this stupid trend? The dumbest fashion symbol of the century.

>>383621974
Where did the Cord in the Old Workshop come from?

You get one from Wetnurse which is the one I assume the Mensis school used to commune with Mergo

You get one from killing Arianna's baby

You get one from killing impregnated and hot laughing Iosefka

>>383621576
>>383621659
>>383621720
I admit I'm not 100%, but none of the lore really is in this game, basically from what we know, the old blood discovered underneath yharnam and the use of kos' blood were two different instances/ two different schools of research. Kos's blood had unique, transformative parasites. From the dlc we see kin being made with kos as a source. The other kin were associated with willem who didnt use the old blood. So thats why I separate old blood form kos' blood. Theres other aspects that I cant quite remember also feel free to correct me.

>>383622102
*wasn't

>>383622139
Blindfolds have been around a bit longer than Bloodborne I think

>>383622123
M A J E S T I C
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>>383622185
Never specified. It could have been something the Hunters dug up in the Old Labyrinth. It could have came from the Orphan's IRL body. Either way, instead of giving it to Willem for him to eat, they smuggled it back to Gehrman's place and used it to summon the Moon.

>>383622185
From Kos some say Kosm. The old hunters desecrated her pregnant corpse.

>>383622198
You don't even know that the fishmen in the Hamlet were doing blood experiments, or if they got their transformations as a personal gift from Kos herself, like Rom did.

>>383622380
I thought the fishmen were being experimented on by Willem

>>383611846
I am going to fucking kill you.

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>>383622185
>Where did the Cord in the Old Workshop come from?

>>383622349
And they used it to beckon Moon Presence, right?

>>383622380
They only looked like that in the nightmare. They were long dead in the waking world.

is insight the real life equivalent of a red pill?

>>383622435
Only after they became fishmen, and besides Willem never used Blood in his experiments. That was the whole reason why Laurence left.

>>383622105
No you are taking a simple theory, and nitpicking all the little problems with it. At face value it makes some sense, and could be the original reason behind the design. But if you dissect it 100 times over and point out all issues as to why it wouldn't make sense in the real world, then yeah it doesn't really work. Because it's a video game, not a possible real life situation. It doesn't need to be taken so literally.

>>383622198
I don't remember them saying anything about Kos' blood. The in-game item says the villagers used Kos Parasites to transform themselves and gain eyes. This is why Willem sent the Hunters to the Hamlet.

By the way, the Fishing Hamlet is probably the most fucked up area story wise Miyazaki has ever written. A group of Hunters go there, kill everyone and pry open their skulls looking for something that might not be there, then desecrate Kos' body to rip out the Orphan's umbilical cord.

No wonder Maria killed herself.

>>383622559
>By the way, the Fishing Hamlet is probably the most fucked up area story wise Miyazaki has ever written
Cathedral of the Deep and everything related to Aldrich was like what the Healing Church did but dialed up to 11 and with way more torture

Micolash memes are unironically my favorite thing about Bloodborne threads.

>>383622185
Something I never understood is why there are four cords in the first place when each one is called 'One Third Cord'. Shouldn't there only be three?

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>>383619841
>spreading germans

>>383622557

>absolutely no argument

I'll take that to mean you concede the point.

>>383619841
I agree with this. It seems to be some sort of way to limit insight, and thus the spread of the disease.

>>383622521
To some extent, yes.

>>383622681
They put an extra one in in case you missed one

>>383622681
I believe there are 4 cords because one is missable

>>383622681
The fourth one was kept secret, specifically from Willem, and used to summon the Moon Presence

>>383611846
holy shit it works on so many levels

>>383622658
Didn't the Choir kidnap children and babies in order to plant them so they could become Kin?

>>383622849
So the Old Hunters used (presumably) Orphan's Umblical Cord to summon the Moon Presence (the red moon). How did the Mensis School get an Cord? You see Yharnam with a bloody stomach, did the Mensis School rip out Mergo's Cord?

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>>383622691
germs, germans, what's the difference really

>>383622681
It's because Great Ones exists in 4 dimensions, not 3.

>>383622923
step 1: forcibly expose the test subject to the horrors of the Cosmos, get their insight to 99

step 2: inject them with Blood

step 3: ?????

step 4: receive Kin

>>383613363

Dr Steel reference by any chance??

>>383622681
Burgertown researchers found out that only 3 cords were necessary to ascend to godhood. Lorewise it could be possible to found even more outside that city, but of course 4 cords are put there for gameplay purposes.

>>383622185
don't quote me on this, but cords, and their sources are from great ones fucking something.
arianna had a baby overnight while in a chapel for an invisible great one
mergo seems to be yharnam's child (probably also from oedon since the cradle's empty)
Iosefka was "chosen" if she had more time she'd probably have some weird kin baby
the workshop comes from who knows where, maybe kosm's kid
>if gherman found 2 more cords he'd probably fight the moon presence when he made contact

>>383623002
Did you see how many baby Great Ones the Choir has lying around in the Upper Cathedral Ward? They could have picked a cord off of any of them. The Choir forgot how to properly use them, and the Mensis would have had a means to acquire one.

>>383622740
>Le not an argument meme
Sorry I'm not an autist like you anon. Some people are capable of separating real life from fiction.
>B-but in real life it would work!
Nothing about the game is realistic, I don't know why you keep trying to connect the two.

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>"What if the Vermin were to infest a human? Not just one or two vermin, but an entire colony of the parasites squirming and writhing within the blood of a human being. No doubt they would be tainted. No doubt they would be forbidden. No doubt they would be Vile."

>>383623036
What's step 5? What the fuck is THE POINTTTT? IS IT TO PISS ME OFF?

>>383623162
Why did Logarius not hide the Crown of Illusions away. Like just throw it in the fucking ocean or something. In the off chance that someone does kill you this will guarantee no one would get to the Vileblood Queen.

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>>383623131

>still no argument
>just another sperg shouting insults

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What does this picture reminds you of

>>383623252
Step 5: Keep doing this until your test subjects pop out a sufficiently powerful Kin to deserve the moniker "Great One." defeated Great One: Celestial Emissary

>>383607608
I am pretty sure that nips just think that "blind" or accessories that cover the eyes look cool.

>>383623317
Anon, great ones live in deep water. Logarius doesn't want to give them access to vlieblood pussy.

>>383623329
topkek

>>383623317
Logarius, like any other wheel cuck, was clearly jelly of the nobles. He was wearing the crown as a way to show them who was the real king.

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>>383623329
This picture

>>383623317
Because if he got rid of it, people would search for it, no matter where it went.

(Also it possibly keeps his old ass alive)

>>383623521
Logarius was mad that the Queen rejected his advances and so went full Elliot mode and brought an army of cucks to kill her

>>383623608
*Army of cucks to wheel her

>>383622349
>>383622380
>>383622559

Yeah this actually makes more sense, also, and this a inference based on the junji ito manga that influenced it, but I'm pretty sure Kos' gift to the orphan was that she swallowed a human and used him as a substitute digestive track, like a human tape worm, where her parasites warped his mind and elevated him. Thats why he's an old man being born

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>>383623324
>Oh look at me I'm so apathetic, that means I won
You know people do that when they are losing right? You're not fooling anyone.
>Le still no argument meme
Saying you have no argument is not an argument, it's just another attempt to detach yourself from the conversation so you can walk away feeling proud of yourself.
It's okay to lose every now and then anon, it's even healthy and keeps you from getting a big head, and attitude problem.

How do deal with the Vileblood Queen once and for all:
>POUND AND GROUND AND SMASH her into a fleshy pink pulp
>gather pink pulp
>place pulp in a household blender
>blend on high for 5-10 minutes, or until consistency is smooth and without lumps
>divide mixture into as many mason jars as necessary
>travel the world, and at random points dig a 50 ft hole and place one of the jars down each
>fill the holes, and do not mark where they are
done

>>383623350
>>383623252
I believe the Emissary was made as an attempt to contact other Great Ones

>>383623608
>>383623804

why was a cainhurst summons addressed to you the player? Was the real goal of bloodborne to make the queen your waifu?

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This is the scariest boss in the game

>>383623804
Why not eat her?

>>383623785
>You know people do that when they are losing right?

I wouldn't know, seeing as I trounce mental midgets such as yourself all the time.

Feel free to to try and refute my points anytime you feel like it but we both know you won't.

>>383623804
>Loyalists hear that jars are buried all over the world
>Quest for them
>It only takes 1 jar to bring her back to life

>>383623754
I always thought that the Orphan came to be because someone fucked Kos' corpse. He was but a baby when BYRGENWERTH BYRGENWERTH came to town, and violated his mother's ass. So when he portaled the whole place into the Nightmare, he was too traumatized to actually get born, and ended up growing old in her womb. Hence why his spirit still remains attached to her body, even after death, and the ultimate resolution to his questline is to give him the tough love (murder) that breaks him free.

>>383623996
>when the gank squad emerges

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>>383623996
*blocks your path*

>>383624025
I wouldn't eat out a girl unless she was my wife

>>383623804
>use dragonball radar and find them all in about 5 seconds

didn't really think that one through did you

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>>383624042
Nice reddit post

>>383607782
well it is a disease that comes from blood so covering the eyes to prevent blood getting in them could be a good idea, though how they see where they're going is a damn mystery.

>Have you heard how curiously the sea churns? Like a storm, but like... the rain, only gentle... like dripping water...
>It bellows, from DEEEEEEEEP inside of me...
>Ah, here it comes, up through my insides! But gently, like little droplets...
What did she mean by this?

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>>383624218
Just eat her for fuck's sake.

>tfw you take a big, vile, shit.

>>383624478
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>383608409
Father Gascaglione

Gaskagleeohnee

>>383607608
Lol, don't you realize that for japanese devs the most important rule is the rule of cool? They don't give a shit about anything else.

>>383624574
GasKWAN

its fuckin KOSM always been fuckin KOSM and its all your fault you blood sucking eyeballing two stepping HUNTERS fuck

>>383624574
gass-coy-neh

>Hey Woolie, I know that you haven't really looked into it, but I was watching one of Vaati's videos, and he made a bunch of really good points about why the Headless Bloodletting Beast is actually Laurence
>NO WAY DUDE THAT'S SICK!!!
>*says while fighting the actual real Laurence in the dlc who is not the HBLB*

>>383613049
>first two
Get really mad
>living failures
Taser stick, hide behind flowers when meteors start, be patient cause they can't catch you unless you dive into them

>>383624816
kosm, or as some say kos

>>383624478
Nothing but common sense here.

>>383623785
I'm not the anon you were replying to, but jesus christ you're delusional if you think you came out of that exchange looking like the "victor".

Your original point was stupid as fuck, got shredded apart with an ounce of logic, and your only response is to say "IT'S NOT REAL ITS FICTION SO THAT MAKES MY THEORY TRUE"

Wait... VaatiVidya, is that you?

>>383625631
I didn't post the original theory but sure thing dude, I'll take your word for it you sound like a smart guy.

>>383625045
>>383625631
Vaati is the Mark Zuckerberg / steve jobs of dark souls youtube videos

>>383625804
SEETHING

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>>383625927
>lol mad
Alright senpai

>>383625045
>hurr durr I'm gonna mock someone else's understanding of Bloodborne lore while demonstrating 0 understanding of it myself

the Laurence in the DLC is his manifestation within the Nightmare, moron.

>>383625927
GRIEVOUS INJURY, PALPABLE FEAR

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>>383626262

>>383626260
Yeah and his skull clearly says that he became the first Cleric Beast, not a Bloodletting Beast. Try to actually know your material before calling out others.

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>>383625804
>you sound like a smart guy

Says the guy arguing in favor of "THE BEAST PLAGUE AFFECTS YOU BASED ON YOUR CHARACTERISTICS... LIKE, BRO, LIKE... YHARNAMITES WANDER IN PACKS, BRO. PACKS! LIKE WOLVES! AND LUDWIG... LUDWIG, BRO, GET THIS... HE'S HONORABLE WHICH INSTANTLY REMINDS YOU OF AN ANIMAL, RIGHT? A HORSE! EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING! THE NOBLE AND HONORABLE HORSE!"

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>>383626342
A STUNNING BLOW

>>383626475
I'm aware, dipshit, still doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with someone talking about ACTUAL Laurence's identity while fighting Nightmare Laurence.

The anon I originally replied to was clearly talking out of his ass. Fuck you.

>>383626514
Imagine Bloodborne, but with Formless Oedon narrating the game like Darkest Dungeon's narrator

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>>383626482
>This mad over a random theory on 4chan
Take a breath dude it'll be alright.

>>383626684
>he says as he posts the objectively worst meguca

>>383626603
>Fighting cleric beast
>Finally kill it
>"Monstrous size has no intrinsic merit, unless inordinate exsanguination be considered a virtue."
Actual 10/10 game material

>>383626684
>calling something out for being fucking retarded is the same as being mad

>>383626958
There's a difference between
>Wow that's a stupid idea, I don't like that
and
>LMOAAAAAAAA FUCKING RETARDED RETARD STUPID IDIOT WOW THAT THEORY IS TRAAAAAAAASH XDDDD FUCKING KYS
I don't really care whether it's right or not, it's not that big of a deal, but you don't have to act like a twelve year old throwing a tantrum to get your point across.

>>383626947
>frenzied
>HOW QUICKLY THE TIDE TURNS

>drink sedative
>soothed, sedated...

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>>383627596
>run out of vials
>Packs laden with loot are often short on supplies

>>383627837
>playing through CFR chalices
>get 1shot by a statue crossbow
>"Curious is the trapmaker's art..."

>>383608409
I'm ashamed to be part of the wealthiest, strongest, most important nation on earth!!

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ALRIGHT please give me the best lore set of videos, I am completely autistic and am willing to watch almost any so long as they actually back up what they say and are at least somewhat accurate

I watched all of hawkshaw's videos on dark souls in a single sitting, I am ready

>>383629102
I don't know about any videos but i suggest you read this.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit

He ties everything together quite neatly.

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>>383629518
>The doll is the Winter Lanterns
>The Winter Lanterns heads are messangers
>“O Flora, of the moon, of the dream. O little ones, O fleeting will of the ancients... Let the hunter be safe, let him find comfort. And let this dream, his captor... foretell a pleasant awakening... be, one day, a fond, distant memory..."
>The doll is a great one
>The doll becomes our mother

Nope.

>>383631263
>not wanting to be embraced by the Doll
Every Great One loses it's child, and yearns for a surrogate.

>>383623051
>Dr. Steel
God damn its been a long time since I've heard that name

>>383629518
I've actually already read it, but thanks though

I find videos with visuals are more impactful for me

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>>383631263
>The Winter Lanterns heads are messangers
what's the deal with that anyways? same with the mensis brain, could they have a connection with the frenzy inducing orange light?
IMO design wise they should've had more brain matter with messengers here and there

>Great volumes of water serve as a bulwark that guards sleep, and an augur of the Eldritch Truth. Overcome this limitation, and seek what is yours...
What does it mean?

>>383629518

Redgrave isn't even close to right. Dude believes worms from the fucking poison swamp are the cause of the scourge and that the Hunter's disease is fucking anemia.

>>383631913
Jump in the lake you double beast

>>383631913

Water is the metacosmic medium. It forms the barrier between wakefulness and sleep. It's an augur of of the Eldritch Truth because it suggests that the boundary between mind and matter is porous.

>>383631913
it's just lake humor

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>>383608409
Father Gascoonsn'jews

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>>383612307
sumog

>>383632531
I appreciate you.

>>383611179

Gas-coin is pretty much on the mark

the Vermin are real, and are the source of Beasthood

>>383622185
From the doll

>>383623010
They're called Gehrmans.