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SPLATOON 2 DROPS TO 1152x648 I THOUGHT THE SWITCH WASN'

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SPLATOON 2 DROPS TO 1152x648
I THOUGHT THE SWITCH WASN'T UNDERPOWERED WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME /v/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg9ptMnVJmI
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>>383599794
Blame Nintendo not wanting to sell hardware at a loss. Based Sony doesn't give a fuck.
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>>383599794
That's handheld mode
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>>383599794
It's using shitty Maxwell Tegra.
What did you expect?
It's a rebranded Shield.
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Yeah well so does Uncharted so shut the fuck up!
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>>383600017
So the Switch isn't a handheld anymore?
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>Graphics matter now
Unless it's on PC graphics literally do not matter to me as long as it's 60 FPS. I've got a 1080 and a 4k monitor and I'm still going to be playing Mario Odyssey probably at 720p with drops just like Splatoon 2. It's because it's going to be a good game. Not Splatoon 2 though this looks like shit
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>>383600084
It's both, it runs poorer in handheld mode tho
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>>383600149
Sub-720 should be entirely unacceptable. No matter how you play.
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>>383599794
>he bought the switch and not the New Switch
wow.
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>>383600230
Depends. People put up with 240p and 560p for years
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>>383600230
Its a smaller screen, higher resolution doesnt matter
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>>383600249
>TTG gif
Leave.
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>>383600230
So what resolution does the Vita run at?
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>>383601440
When did the VITA release?
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>>383601410
k
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>>383601440
>b-but sony
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>>383599794
Lmao at that console wars bait OP.
Docked: between 864p to 1080p at flawless 60fps.
Handheld: between 648p and 720p at flawless 60fps.
Honestly the way things are going the Switch, it will have more first party games running at 1080p60 than the PS4 really soon. If they targetted 30fps with a game developed natively for the switch (not the unoptimized mess that is that is Zelda from Wii U), the games would obviously all look much better.
I really like my PS4 but they clearly don't care as much about framerate when the Pro only targets higher resolutions.
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>>383603273
>flawless 60*
*outside of multiplayer, can still drop to 59fps
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>>383603273
Honestly, I consider keeping 60FPS better than keeping 1080p. I like my games fluid, if I want cinematic-tier FPS i go to a cinema.
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>>383599794
>LET'S IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE GUYS
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>>383603426
>can still drop to 59fps
How horrible.
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>>383601958
>>383599930
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>>383603426
Yes, that one single frame that Digital Foundry didn't even find worth reporting really will help your case against Nintendo.
>>383603470
Sony could also do that with many of their games if they applied dynamic resolution. But no, because if they did that everyone would just shit on the console even more because of the loss in resolution. Nintendo at least doesn't care.
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>>383603618
What's your point?
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>>383603656
the playstation has fewer frames, but each single one of them is so much better than what nintendo will ever produce in this decade
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>>383603503
On a 60hz screen it is, the actual displayed framerate has to drop to 30hz or skip a frame (judder). Does any console have support for variable refresh rates displays?
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>>383604070
It can drop to 30hz very briefly, and render what is effectively 2 frames at 30hz and then get back to 60hz.
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>>383603656
>their games if they applied dynamic resolution
Lots of PS4 games already ruin at a dynamic resolution, and frame rates are still sloppy
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>>383601440
Funny that you want to compare Vita to the Switch. Let's see how well THAT goes.
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>>383599794
I'm not sure what they said about Zelda is accurate. I haven't had any drops in ages. Anyway, nice to see Splatoon 2 is 60 fps
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>>383604415
I guess that they just care that much about image quality instead then. Which is fair considering how games like Horizon look, but I think most players would really care more about 60fps instead of graphics.
The only problem with focusing on framerate is that those who hate on the system end up being much more vocal than those who appreciate the change to 60fps, so you would have many more people laughing at how bad Horizon would have looked if it was at 60fps. Which, as we can see, everyone already does with Nintendo.
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>>383604867
>someone took the time and effort to make this
It was a dumb move by Nintendo, but this is just sad.
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NOOOOO

I WON'T STAND FOR THIS

IT DROPS TO 59 FPS ONCE IN THAT WHOLE VIDEO
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>>383605318
>IT DROPS TO 59 FPS ONCE IN THAT WHOLE VIDEO
It doesn't tho
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fps > resolution on a console shooters
its not pixel sniping arma bullshit
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Nice I was looking forward to this...I'll give a TLDR since I just watched it

Adaptive Resolution in game ranging from 864p-1080p locked 60fps
Undocked 648-720p locked 60 fps
Hub is 1080/30
Game looks solid and improves over wii u... better quality shadows, paint from gun, character models, but favors performance over image quality

If I missed anything just add it like drops to 59 fps at one part in the video.
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>>383605490
5:46
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>>383605715
I guess its worth mentioning that this is single player and multiplayer might be different. However single player maps (which are fully loaded right away) seem to be much larger than the multiplayer ones and there are enemies there too, so I don't think there will be a big drop in resolution during multiplayer.
I'd take an occasional drop to 720p over a drop in framerate anytime though, hope they keep prioritizing that.
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Not gonna stop it from selling millions
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>>383606020
This game will probably sell more than Zelda first week and half of the sales will be from Japan. Squiddomination.
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You have to be 12 for playing and enjoying this game. Neo /v/ is real.
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>best shooter in the whole history of gaming
>B-BBUT THE RESOLUTION
>proceeds to play CoD 34626424 DLC#428962894 at 720p upscaled to 4k
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>>383606020
Japan loves tentacles!
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>>383606284
t. never played the game and thus talking out of their ass
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>>383605792
Nope.
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So what does /v/ really think?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13409791
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>>383606443
t. I'm a manchild.
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>>383606690

You're not meant to add the "t." when talking about yourself
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>>383606586
:)
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>>383606975
Fake
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>>383606674
60fps dynamic resolution WITH AA.
No AA is just as shit as 30fps, completely ruins image quality when even cheap 2x AA would be a huge help at little cost
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Never played the first one, is this one good guys?
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>>383606942
>He shits on a game manchilds play and call them manchild
>He must be manchild.

Nice logic. But what you expect from a manchild anyway.
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>>383607546
Play the splatfest and see for yourself, but yeah, it's really good. Smash/Splatoon/Mario Kart is my go-to multiplayer games nowadays.
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>>383607429
>No AA is just as shit as 30fps
But fps is not related to image quality, it is related to fluidity of motion. Framerate directly impacts gameplay while lack of image quality doesn't.
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>>383607624

>manchilds

This is an English speaking website
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>>383607264
No es fake.
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>>383607624
>Can't even spell
>calls others manchildren
pathetic. enjoy missing out on the best multiplayer shooter
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>>383607724
>But fps is not related to image quality
huh, people THIS stupid exist...
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>>383607738
t. I have nothing to say about argument and I should attack on his English knowledge.

Not everyone native English speaker you know. But you know what? That's high expecting a manchild know this.anyway
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>>383607724
>>383607971
Sorry, misread you there.

You are right, but your options were still a mishmash of image quality and performance, so I don't see why my solution would be out of line compared to the other options.

Titanfall2 does dynamic resolution + 60fps + AA on consoles, for example.
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>>383607971
An image is a still picture, framerate is the frequency of how many images you can put out per second. They are completely unrelated unless you don't know what image quality is referring to.
You can however say that framerate is related to video or motion quality.
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>>383606674
>Hub world vs in-game action

The hub world always felt slugglish walking around and that is at 30 fps. 2's hub has AA
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>>383608201
Ah ok. I agree AA would be better but I don't really know how cheap it would be to the resolution loss. You can have a lot of AA but if the resolution drops too much, the game will still look very jarry in a 1080p screen.
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>>383608201
Oh, it's the retarded TF2 faggot again. Should have known.
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>>383599794
>Splatoon 2's major changes are almost entirely relegated to single player
I mean I don't mind because I fucking loved the singleplayer and wanted more but most people are definitely going to walking away from this product unhappy.
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>>383607885
Dios mio...
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>>383608487
I'm fine with Duelies and a hoard mode, i'm satisfied. Hopefully the party mechanics are better this time though.
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>>383599794
You mean Manchild 2?
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See how the N64 has AA built in and it's not performance based, rather output based...what's stopping Sony/Nintendo from putting something similar in place? Aside from textures, N64 games tend to look clean as fuck compared to what you see from a similar time period.
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>>383608487
What multiplayer changes would you have suggested? There is a new horde mode, new weapons and changes to old weapons, new subweapons, entirely new specials, new maps. It also seems like they may add a new ranked mode down the line. It not launching with a new one at the start seems like the only thing that would be disappointing
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>>383608487
There's no information about multiplayer yet. Considering the map size and enemies in single player you're unlikely to see a big difference in multiplayer. If anything you'll probably see an occasional drop to 720p to keep the game at 60, but the image quality improvements will still remain.
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The people are desperate
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>>383608487
Are you implying the visual upgrades aren't going to be on the multiplayer
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>>383608616
Duelies is literally patch tier, Splatoon 1 added more weapons than that for free. Hoard Mode being their local multiplayer offering instead of proper support to go online with 4 friends now that the Switch can handle it is pretty much definitive proof that this is just Splatoon 1+.

>>383608756
>What multiplayer changes would you have suggested?
I'm no expert, but something that will make the player feel like they got more than just the pleasure of paying 360 dollars to continue playing Splatoon's multiplayer.
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>>383609225
>I have nothing of substance to say, I just want to complain
>everyone is buying the console for a single game
Great feedback, thanks
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>>383603698
You sonybabbys are being fucking hypocrites
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>>383599794
But it is...?
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>>383609225
It really is Splatoon 1+, but did you want a Splatoon DX on the switch instead? Alternate fires, a hoard mode and promises of 1 year of updates + 2 years of splatfests are great.

The only thing that annoys me is that amazing umbrella won't be available at launch, I love that shotgun look and sound.
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>tfw i love my switch and i care more about the games than whatever fucking dynamic resolution the games drop to
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>>383608487
NO IM NOT YOU FUCKING AUTISTIC WHITE MANCHILD!

Its the most Autistic and retarded things how you Autist think you speak for everyone else in the entire world.

Most TRUE fans of splatoon cant wait to get our hands on it you dirty little ingrate.

Its a proper sequel which is more than anything Sony and MICORSHIT have been capable of
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>nintendo lies again
Knew it wouldn't be 1080p
Should be fucking illegal
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>>383609669
If you call it Splatoon 1+, almost every shooter sequel should be called 1+. I really think this is such an overblown criticism, especially with the year of updates on the way. I mean the original Splatoon only had 5 stages at launch and ended up with 16. A similar amount of content can be expected to be added to Splatoon 2
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>>383600230
it is but watch nintenbros defend this
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>>383599794
I'm not buying it until it's 60fps 1080p constantly. It's 2017, sort out your shit, Nintendo.
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>>383599794
>1152x648

I don't really care THAT much, considering I wasn't planning on getting this game anyway, but what is that number? I've never seen that resolution before.
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>>383609918
>ALL switch controller have gyro support, the big reason Splatoon 1 did not have competent local multiplayer is that the WiiU gamepad was the only controller with that
>Now that they do instead of overhauling the online to allow you to bring your friends online they just tack on a hoard mode and call it a day
What an overblown criticism indeed. Certainly hasn't led to this product being worse than it normally would be or anything.

Why would I ever support a series I enjoy going down the CoD/Battlefield route?
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>>383609835
FUCK OFF AUTIST!

The game looks great and only autist like you are complain over things that the average person pay no mind too
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Nintendo ........ wins again...
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>>383609918
>A similar amount of content can be expected to be added to Splatoon 2

So basically something that keeps me interested for a couple of weeks, something I stop playing almost entirely until one major update, and then a few days after that, drop it entirely?

Alright.
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cmon OP
if you wanted to shitpost, why not shitpost about the HUB running at 30FPS
you could even say the whole game runs at 30FPS, as a lie, because you're not above that

you'd have gotten debunked just as fast too
try again tomorrow
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>>383606975
this looks so awful. nintendo fanboys just eat shit with a grin on their face its insane
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>>383599794
>*while keeping a constant 60fps which is the most important thing

How come you forgot to mention this OP?

Obviously the game would look a lot better visually if Nintendo downgraded their games like Sony & MS do, keeping it at a "cinematic" 30fps and filling it with QTE's.

Thankfully Nintnedo knows how to prioritize though.
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>>383610136
Its a dynamic resolution drop in undocked mode. Considering the maximum resolution for undocked is 720p and the last splatoon 2 demo had drops to 540p (even in docked mode), drops to 648p really aren't that bad.
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>>383610143
I'm disappointed about no splitscreen, but most shooters don't, not just CoD/Battlefield. And Salmon run is neither tacked on nor a replacement for splitscreen, stupid
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>>383610406
You haven't played it, obviously. If it's anything like the first game it'll be fun as hell, no matter how "shit" it looks lmao
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>>383606674
How the fuck is this even remotely a question? I will take 60fps over 30fps for literally any game.
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>>383610165
The director himself """confirmed""" the game is 1080p at E3
He had every opportunity to say "with dynamic resolution scaling" or "not always" but he didn't. He blatantly lied.

Lying is wrong. This is what everyone should be upset about.
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>>383610143
Because it's not? Those series are infested with DLC and you know it.
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>>383610268
>I didn't like a game
>I likely won't enjoy the sequel
>"Shit sequel, no content!"

What a moronic complaint, but what would you expect from someone who posts a pic of nostalgialoser
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>>383610610
Did you even watch the video? Digital Foundry mentions that what he said was translated wrong and the director actually said that it "would be targetting 60fps with a maximum resolution output of 1080p". The only one who lied was the translator.
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>>383610610
He didn't lie, a "maximum resolution of 1080p" was a truthful statement.
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>>383610610
>He had every opportunity to say "with dynamic resolution scaling" or "not always" but he didn't. He blatantly lied
Except he literally did. The fucking Digital Foundry video says that the translator fucked up, and what the director actually said was "it runs 60 frames per second, at a maximum of 1080p." Did you even fucking watch the video OP linked?
I agree that the translator spreading misinformation is something people should be mad about, but you can't fault the devs for the translator being a fucking idiot.
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>>383606975
NINTENDOOMED
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>>383610610
No, it just shows we can't ever trust Nintendo Localization, even when its just a few lines translated live on E3
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>>383608487
>Didn't watch the direct
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>>383610552
you have to be 18+ to post here
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>>383610958
Why would I waste my time? I bet you watch Barney & Friends, too
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>>383610876
Their doing a pretty good job with this game though. I'm loving all the puns
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>>383610876
>an interpreter gets something slightly wrong
whoa stop the fucking presses
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>>383611023
Why make claims when you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>383611001
so then why are you here?
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>>383611001
Yepp. So it might be time for you to leave.
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>>383604867
the DS had inbuilt voice chat.
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>>383611084
sorry, i don't bother with kiddie shit after I grew up and moved out
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>>383608487
Wut?

So we're ignoring all the new maps, specials, weapons and abilities?

It will be an entirely new meta.
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>>383611267
Why are you in this tread
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>>383600084
That's how they get you. You can't complain that it's underpowered because it's a handheld. You can't complain that it's bulky with poor battery life and the placement of the charging port precludes the use of the portable stand because it's a console. Best of both worlds for them.
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>>383611267
And yet you're in this very thread, bothering with kiddy shit

Shoo, shoo
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>>383611268
Are you really going to take a shitposter seriously.
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>>383611267
>I don't bother with [product] beacuse I'm grown up but I will still make statements about said product even though I have no idea what I'm talking about

Sure sounds like you're a big boy.
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>>383611362
why post like this
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>>383611476
Watching movies gives them a lot of time to shitpost.
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>>383611476
newfag see newfag do
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>>383611073
I was just kidding man, calm down.
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>>383611395
>poor battery life
The other things are legit, but I really don't get this complaint. It's exactly the same as the original 3DS has, and it's x500 more powerful.
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>>383610586
Well apparently there's 3 people here who think otherwise
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>>383611637
>_>
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Either this thread is full of flase flags or nintendo cunts really do eat up all the shit they put out.
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Is every thread about upcoming games this rampant with shitposting, or is it Nintendo specific?
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>>383611362
With this much time o shitpost, do Sonybros even play games?

Really gets the noggin' joggin'
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>>383608487
im assuming that, much like the first game, it'll be a lot more diverse as the game patches over the year. in the direct, they unveiled the new umbrella weapon, much like the inkbrush pretty early on.
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>>383611778
PC
Nintendo
Xbox
Releases on those get the most shitposting.
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>>383599794
adaptive resolutions can go fuck itself
this is not about console wars
no game should change resolutions mid-game
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>>383604867
Nintendo's solution is honestly better.
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>>383603273
>flawless 60fps
>Drops in single players

Online matches will be a fucking mess
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>>383611682
It's just sony drones/trolls that don't have anything better to do, just ignore them. A 20$ power bank will allow you to play the entire day.
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>>383611907
No it isn't.
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>>383611778
People are butthurt about Nintendo releasing an undepowered tablet and being successful in the process.

It won't matter if it sells 10M in its first year, this is the shitposting reality we live in.
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>>383611953
t. xbot
Okay Pretendo, I believe you.
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>>383611682
The world crucified the launch 3DS for, among other things, its meager battery life.
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>>383611929
Oh no, it drops to 59 FPS once every million years, what will we do
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>>383611907
How?
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>>383611851
I'm still waiting for Spray-cans to be a weapon.
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>>383608487

>new maps
>new modes
>new gear
>new weapons
>entirely new specials
>new characters
>new story
>now portable
>LAN mode
>now able to change haircuts and pants
>new content down the line including modes, maps and gear
>i-its almost the same game guise!!!!
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>>383611894
So?
It's not like it's going to change in the middle of a match.
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>>383612043
Battery life was hardly the probelm initially. People were complaining about the price - and when it got cut it started selling great.
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>>383612042
Why even bother having an app in the first place when you already need to use a device literally designed to talk with other people? Then you need to use some clunky solution to get both game sound and voice chat being fed into the same pair of headphones. On top of this all, you need an extra power source if you plan on playing for any amount of time at all. They might as well have not offered anything at all.
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>>383612158
False flagging faggots like you should be taken out back and shot. Nintendo's standard for these games has been 60 fps, with compromises on visual quality, which is 1000% the way to go.
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>>383612158
>>383611476
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>>383599794
I love when /v/ posts an analysis of nintendo games
It's always hyped up as NINTENDO IS DONE FOR IT RUNS LIKE SHIT
Then I watch the video and it's 60fps at a solid resolution relative to the mode the games ran in
It's 1152x648 in handheld mode
A 720p display that at such a size a resolution drop like that is unnoticeable
Unlike a framerate drop
Of which there is never a drop in during singleplayer
Not a single frame
60fps consistently
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>>383612123
To be fair, so far there is really only one new mode, and then the possibility of a fourth ranked mode based on the UI. Still, I'm incredibly excited and everything that is there looks fantastic. Plus, as has been said, the post launch content for 1 was fantastic and more unique, 2 should be no different
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>>383612252
>nothing is better than something because I'm retarded!
Come on son.
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>>383612157
watch the fucking vid, it does.
looking a the sky puts you at 1080p
looking forward changes it to 864p
this is while docked too
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>>383612206
https://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/nintendo-3ds-review/

Battery life wasn't the only problem, but it was on the list. Here's just one review. Many such cases!
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>>383599794
>game dynamically scales quality in order to maintain framerate
Why is this a problem? I'd rather have a consistent frame rate over "MUH GRAPHICS". So long as the game remains clear enough to play, there's absolutely no issue.
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>>383612206
No way, people bitched about the battery life nonstop. You're right that a pricedrop and some "killer app" releases helped to get the ball rolling, but the battery life shitposting was un-fucking-real.
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>>383612370
Why are you typing like trump?
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>>383611894
adaptive resolutions are superior to adaptive fps, especially if the changes are relatively small (1080p -> 540p would be pretty jarring, for instance)
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>>383612296
stay triggered ninqueeryearold
Your babby iPad can't even play 4k lol
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>>383612378
Because this cartoon game shouldn't be a hassle to run without any downsides, yet here we are with the Switch.
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>>383599794
Game looks sweet af, thanks for the vid OP.
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>>383612340
The Switch itself doesn't even have voice chat, the app does. The app on a device where I can already use a variety of VoIP programs.
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>>383612565
Because it's high time I learned to be a winner, dammit!
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>>383612585
I mean they could just keep it at 30FPS and have it at a constant 1080p, but only a retard would rather have that.
Are you retarded anon? Please don't tell me you are...
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>>383612252
original splatoon had an app
phones already have voice chat apps
theres nothing new here
the headset is a 3rd party thing
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>>383612661
You're already a winner to me, anon. :3
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>>383612585
>Because this cartoon game shouldn't be a hassle to run
Neither should anything else this gen but hey 30fps is apparently the standard now for these "powerful" consoles.
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I honestly can't deal with Nintendo any more.
IT'S FUCKING 2017. WHY DO I HAVE TO PLAY GAMES IN 900p??? THIS IS A "NEXT GEN" CONSOLE. WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING INCOMPETENT? WHY DO YOU KEEP RUINING YOUR GOOD GAMES WITH YOUR SHIT HARDWARE????
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>>383612565
Anonymous doesn't get trump-posting! Total loser!
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>>383604867
Yeah, we want voice chat just like any other person. But we're here to play the fucking game.
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>>383612706
Oh gosh.
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>>383612727
Sad!
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>>383612704
>original splatoon had an app
No it didn't.
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>>383612615
That's like saying Discord shouldn't have a phone app because it's a fucking phone.
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>>383599794
> actually caring this much
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>>383612724
>*864p
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>>383612335

Sure, but calling it 1+ is the most meme thing one could say. its an entirely new iteration and no one will feel like otherwise unless you are into gimmick changes like an ''Splatoon double dash'.'This is exactly what you should expect from a sequel.
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>>383612585
How is a "cartoon game" any less demanding than a "non-cartoon" game?

Fucking Crash Bandoccot on Ps4 runs in 30fps. That game should be running in 120fps 8K by your logic.
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>>383608616
>im fine with dualies
i hope you are ready for best weapon
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>>383612781
No, because mobile Discord and PC Discord are compatible with one another. Nintendo's voice chat is only compatible with other people using a telephone.
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>>383601440
One acceptable for a handheld in 2011
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>>383612335
>Humpback Pump Track
RIP Blackbelly Skate Park
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>>383612862
>Duelies
>Not SHOTGUN UMBRELLA
Anon pls
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>>383612773
splat net existed
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>>383611023
Jesus fucking christ, if you don't wish to be informed about the game, maybe don't discuss it?
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>>383612974
That wasn't an app, it was just a website that tracked some barebones stats and showed you what the next rotation was.
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man, I didn't realize this was coming out this soon. Shit, I need a Switch and a pro controller.

Is a Splattoon bundle coming??
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>>383612883
So what you're saying is that it would be good for you if Nintendo made version for PC.
Are you fucking retarded?
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NINTENDO WON
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>>383612585
crash doesnt even run at real 4K on PS4 pro. It runs at 30fps too kek. A 20 year old game gets a new coat of skin and runs at 30fps kek
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>>383611362
You guys are desperate.
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>>383612947
thats... what i wanted to imply with the picture?
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I never played the first game, even tho i had a WiiU (no wifi was the trouble)

Now i'm ready to start (and get ym ass kicked)

What,s a solid starter weapon?
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>>383613029
It would be better, but even then they would need to compete with Discord.
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>>383613057
>crash doesnt even run at real 4K on PS4 pro
Nothing runs at real 4K on Pro it's all literally just upscaled ass.
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It genuinely becomes harder to tell if some of you really just hate every damn thing unironically
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>>383599794
Wait can I downloard the single player of splatoon now?
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>>383612296
compromises is a nice way to put it when a game is a decade behing the standard
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>>383612827
Agreed. I was pleading that case earlier. I just don't want to misrepresent what is there

>>383612919
It's a shame it had to go, but RM was just too shitty on it. Maybe its passing will pave the way for Mahi Mahi or Flounder to come back
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>>383612317
>A 720p display that at such a size a resolution drop like that is unnoticeable

this is what drones actually tell themselves to stay sane
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>>383613113
Play the single player and get a feel for the weapons. Oat weapon types are very unique, but you'll find your favorites pretty quickly.
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>>383613257
what standard?
its not a pixel perfect sniping game
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>>383613257
Well you're right about that, 60fps was the standard of the 80s and 90s.
Nowadays it's 30 or bust. If your console can't handle THIRTY GLORIOUS SILKY SMOOTH FRAMES PER SECOND then it's fucking ass.
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ITT: /v/ keeps finding levels of pettiness that shouldn't be possible
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>>383613352
dude, 720p is more than fine even for fucking phones. It's a tiny ass screen.
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>>383610268
well, that's you anon. Do you do that all the games these days?
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>>383600084

Just because you can hold something in your hands doesn't make it a handheld.
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>>383613113
There's a training mode for weapons but if you just want to hop in then the basic Splattershot works as a starter.
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>>383613352
>I watch 4k on my ishit
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>>383613257
Yeah, Nintendo should stick to the standard of 30fps. The human eye can't see above 20fps anyway, right my fellow sonybro!
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>>383613221
I like Splatoon, that's why I'm so upset.
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>SNES Mini has more 60fps exclusives than PS4

Really activates the almonds
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>>383601697
I don't think it has yet.
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Good for you nintendo players hope you have a blast with splatooon 2
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>>383613782
Can you list valid reasons to be upset?
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>>383613924
a)the switch is garbage
b)it's a glorified port
c)it's for children
d)no voice chat

need i go on...
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>>383604867
What's with those terrible diagrams listed as alternatives?

Just plug the audio into the damn line-in of your computer. Set the audio output to listen to the line-in. And you're done.
You don't need any splitters or video capturing cards or multiple HDMIs or anything like that. You just need a computer with a plain old line-in.
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>>383614051
All those "completely objective" reasons and none about the actual game.
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>>383614051
Yeah, list actual reasons this time
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>>383614051
All of that is wrong. Go end yourself, you fucking troll.
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>>383613110
oh nvm sorry anon i'm mentally challenged
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>>383614157
Splatoon 2 has no voice chat.
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>>383614259
And?
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>>383614321
That's an objective reason about the actual game.
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>>383614051
>say he like splatoon
>shit post about it

What did he mean by this?
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>>383614371
Do you even remember why you started listing these "reasons"?
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>>383614259

Neither did one and only redditors legit want one.
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>>383614259
nice bait faggot.
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>>383614157
>>383614161
>>383614217
>>383614382

guys, guys, guys I was merely pretending!
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>yfw playing splatoon 2 with your bros
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>>383614259
That's a good thing, do you want people screaming niggers 50 times like that dude in overwatch? Also 90% of the room is filled with japanese player in the higher ranks, you won't even be able to chat with them.
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>>383613924
not him but i hoped splatoon 2 would hit a solid 60fps at 1080p considering how simple the graphics are.
variable res that mostly sits at 864p is a downer even though splatoon 1 was 720p.
like at least splatoon 1 didn't change resolution mid-game. it was solid.
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>>383614468
That's not Splatoon 2, that's a phone.
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>>383614479
jokes on you i don't have any bros, loser
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>>383606301
>best shooter in the whole history of gaming
Are you retarded?
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>>383614490
>i don't want that feature anyway, nintendo-sama
>please remove it and other staples of the genre from the past 25 years we don't want them anyway
>i'll gladly pay extra for you to get rid of these traditions!
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>>383614479
how can you play with your arms wrapped up like a sausage?
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>>383599794
The last time Nintendo had more power than another console was the 64. Even then a lot of the games weren't actually 64 bit. Just let Nintendo do the one thing they're good at anymore. Hand helds. That's why the switch is a HAND HELD. Not a console.
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>>383612335
I'm just glad they're separated

t. amazing at splat zones, sucky at turf war.
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>>383613924
Treehouse said it was 1080p, but it's not, it yo-yos from different resolutions like the pile of shit it actually is. I legit feel like Nintendo has slapped me in the face, I though we were getting a nice-looking Splatoon sequel.
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>>383614603
umm it's a hybrid, actually, sweetie
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>>383614495
Wait how drastic are the resolution changes midgame?
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>>383614603
>The last time
The only time. The SNES had a much worse CPU than the Mega Drive even if it had a better graphics/sound chip, and the NES was pretty much on par with the competition.
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>>383604867
The fuck you need headphones and a mixer for?
It's just Splatoon.
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Is Splatoon 1 still active? I haven't played it in a year and now I want to. i'm not buying a switch
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>>383614691
>I legit feel like Nintendo has slapped me in the face

I don't
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>>383599794
>Sacrifices a bit of resolution to have more detailed shadows, models, and textures as well as maintaining consistent 60fps
If something has to be sacrificed, I'm glad it's a bit of resolution rather than tens of frames.
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>>383614783
Only Japs play it. Good luck getting games when the sequel comes out.
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>>383614579
Nigger nigger nigger :^)
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>>383614691
fuck off testfire was fine
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>>383614585
switch tablet on table with separate joycons underneath comfy blanket
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>>383614495
Sounds like you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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>>383599794
Play
The
Game
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>>383614691
It was a mistranslation, as clarified by Digital Foundry.
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>>383599794
Goddamn, what a piece of shit hardware.
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>>383614747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg9ptMnVJmI&t=3m3s
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>>383599794
Resolution is a meme, you fucking piece of shit. Constant FPS is where it's at. Especially when it's 60 of them, so go end yourself.
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>>383614691
It does look nice and you're just mentally inefficient.
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>>383614861
>have to go through extraneous means just to talk with friends while playing video games while every other platform just allows you to plug a headset in
>even the wii u had voice chat without requiring third party hardware
>suddenly it's okay when nintendo does it
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>>383603426
HOW
WILL THEY EVER
RECOVERER ERROR AAAAAAAAA
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>>383599794
>handheld mode drops less than 80p
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>>383614479
>mfw I enter a busy area in the game and my squid turns into a jagged mess of pixels
Based Nintendo.
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>>383615032
>using a phone is hard!!!!!!!!!
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>>383613324
>RM was just too shitty on it
>Not tower control
Fuck that fucking shitty map on tower control, I literally refuse to play rank when that shit is in rotation, shits fucking cancer.
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>>383615091
>and my squid turns into a jagged mess of pixels
Hm?
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>>383606975
Look how fucking blurry the Digital Foundry text is, were you watching the video in 480p perhaps? This image does not represent the direct feed at all. This is some try-hard edgelording to make Splatoon 2 look like horse shit.
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>>383614941
play other games that have variable resolutions and you'll see why people are complaining.
i would legit rather have the game locked at a lower resolution than bounce around.
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>>383599930
Explains why most of Sony is bankrupt.
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>>383615165
Halo 5 handles it fine
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>>383615108
>it's okay when nintendo makes me jump through hoops
>fuck convenience
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>>383614479
>Have bros
>None of them will be able to play Splatoon 2
Need to find some more bros.
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>>383614585
>not playing with split joycons while comfying it up in the bed
I'm so hyped for winter for once.
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>>383615165
>play other games that have variable resolutions and you'll see why people are complaining.
I would if I heard about them as it stands I've never heard a single complaint about that until today.
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>>383611894
Battlefront, Cod and nioh off the top of my head do this, what is the problem?
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>>383603816
Are you underaged?
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>>383614969
>all those times he shows a different resolution and the difference is near unnoticeable
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>>383615032
If you actually had a wii u, you would know that even though the wii u has voice chat capabilities splatoon1 game never used it.
>suddenly it's an issue now
???

I mean if you were planning to play with friends it would only be good in squads and private battle.
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>>383615409
>th-the human eye can't even see past 480p anyway
>>
>mfw the only thing that matters to me is fun
>don't give a fuck about graphics

I still play my PS1 and PS2 almost daily, why the fuck would I care about game resolution
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>>383615409
I've been telling you people during years that resolution is just a meme. Fuck 4k, 60 fps is where it's at.
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>>383606020
Gran Autismo for $100, yeah fuck you too PD
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>>383615554
>why the fuck would I care about game resolution
Because they're locked to one console and not having fun, duh.
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>>383615175
>being so butthurt you dont know what you are talking about
>so but so butthurt you think sony is only one business
>so but so but sooo butthurt that your toddler brain thinks a company that is not nintendo will die in the future.
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>>383615527
It was an issue then, and it's still an issue now.
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>>383614969
Oof.
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>>383601440
>Drones are this desperate that they're comparing the Switch to a 2011 handheld
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>>383615669
He's not wrong you know.
If the Emoji movie flops then that's it for Sony's movie division and that's only the beginning.
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>>383615671
>It was an issue then
It really wasn't
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>>383615754
The Switch is a handheld, you troglodyte.
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>>383615671
>It was an issue then, and it's still an issue now.
Good thing it was never an issue in the first place.
You're playing a 4 v 4 game not a game with no less than 50 players.
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>>383615779
It really was.
>>
I can't tell the difference between Zelda 900p and when I play 1080p on my PS4. I really doubt I'll notice the difference in Splatoon 2 when I'm sitting 8 feet away from my TV
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>>383615380
its sorta like when you blink and your eye is a bit blurry so you blink again to fix it. except its how the game is supposed to look when there's a lot of action going on and you just have to deal with it. i still remember this shit in titanfall 2.
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>>383615814
It's whatever drones want it to be to better fit their argument.

Comparing it to hardware from six years ago is pathetic.
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>>383615894
only if you wanted to yell nigger to other people
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>>383614969
>try that look up down thing
>can literally tell no difference
Is resolution a meme or is it because I'm living in a cold as fuck environment or something?
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>>383614812
this anon gets it
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>>383616124
720 to 1080 is near unnoticeable. You'd have to have a direct comparison at all times to notice.
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>>383616043
It's not, you absolute retard, it's a handheld that doubles as a home console. Not so hard to understand. And considering that, of course it's fair to compare it to the previous generation of handheld consoles. And guess what? It blows them out of the fucking water. Not only that, but it offers you 60 fps games in HD, something actual home consoles apparently can't do, because they have their heads up their fucking asses and they value cinematic properties over things that actually affect game play on their video GAMES.
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>>383606301
>best shooter in the whole history of gaming
Why are Nintendo fanboys this sheltered and ignorant?
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>>383616124
You've seen the light. Now go demand 60 FPS instead of shit you actually don't need like 4k.
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>>383616101
>you can only use le voice chat to yell at people
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>>383614969
I can't tell a difference in this video what the fuck
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>>383616124
Of course it's a meme, why do you think most of the Sonygro in here didn't realise that most of the games they fap to have resolution scaling?
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>>383616435
basically
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knowing that the resolution is zip zooming all over the place I can never enjoy this game now. at least I saved £50
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>>383603426
Wow, it's nothing.....
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>>383616357
That was definitely a hyperbolic claim for that guy to make, but is there actually a better multiplayer console shooter?
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>>383616435
Pretty much yeah. Only time it doesn't happen is in private games with friends.
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>>383613117
What the fuck are you even talking about anymore you changed your argument halfway through.
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>>383616435
splatoon was specifically designed to not need voice chat, there is no reason to use it.
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>>383616561
Just like the game's content.
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>>383616330
>It's not, you absolute retard, it's a handheld that doubles as a home console. Not so hard to understand

Nintendo refers to it as their fucking home console. Saying otherwise is completely irrefutable. Likewise, the 3DS isn't going anywhere.

The Switch is competing with the PC, PS4, and XB1, not the Vita for God's sake.

I also like how you go on a tirade about "cinematic experiences" and making worthless generalizations about a multitude of video game companies. That's cute.
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>>383614137
They want game audio on the headset too like any normal human being would, instead of blasting it though the TV

Your method doesn't use the Switch at all and zero problems are solved.
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>>383616656
>Nintendo refers to it as their fucking home console. Saying otherwise is completely irrefutable. Likewise, the 3DS isn't going anywhere.

That's nice, the Switch is still a handheld though
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>>383606301
>>best shooter in the whole history of gaming
>can't even use a proper fucking input device to aim
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>>383616743
Not an argument.
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>>383616628
If that's true, then why do people use comms at all while playing?
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>Nintendo shills now defending no voice chat instead of just making it optional like any other game does
They keep reach lower day after day
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>>383616124
You are watching a Youtube video fucking retard.
Those comparisons can only be noticed through raw gameplay or if you download their nearly uncompressed file from the Patron-paywall website.
You can definitely notice the difference between 900p and 1080p, and the game drops to 800-something-p sometimes. 1080p will only be active if you're looking at the sky, so in practical terms you'll never have 1080p gameplay outside of the HUB 30fps area.
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>>383616839
Right, it's just a fact
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>>383616852
because they want to yell nigger at someone
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>>383616987
no nintendo console has had first party voice chat and it's literally never been a problem
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>>383616830
>>can't even use a proper fucking input device to aim
And it's still the second best input to KB+M
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>>383616996
A fact Nintendo disputes with you.
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>>383611267
Kill yourself, faggot
>>
Is game chat a meme? I mostly play multiplayer games on my PS4 and have never had an actual person use game chat for anything other than playing shitty music down the mic or being a screaming faggot who's mad at the game.
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>>383616994
FUCK YOU the demo is out, i checked right now
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>>383616994
You're calling him a retard when you can play the training mode in Splatfest demo they released to test it?

Sonygro have no idea what they're fucking talking about.
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>>383616656
Because:
>it's a handheld that doubles as a home console.
Do you see them having another home console out? Nope. The 3DS is still there for low cost games and actual children.

>The Switch is competing with the PC, PS4, and XB1, not the Vita for God's sake.
No shit. The Switch is replacing the Vita, as a matter of fact. It's the next gen handheld. Just wait half a year and you'll see all them weeb games coming in like there's no tomorrow.
And yes, it's competing with the PC, PS4, and XB1, but not by offering you resolution and that's it. The Switch offers you versatility, it offers you freedom, and it offers you a unique library of fantastic games at 60 fps, so it's the superior choice.
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>>383617076
uh, no. Just because they call it a home console doesn't negate the fact that it's a handheld the most recent and powerful of which is the Vita
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>>383616994
>You are watching a Youtube video fucking retard.
No, I'm not. I booted up the game and tested it on the console itself, both handheld and docked.
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>>383616730
>They want game audio on the headset too like any normal human being would, instead of blasting it though the TV
What? You wouldn't blast anything through the TV.
Read my post again. You route the game audio to the line-in of a PC. You set audio output of the PC to listen to the line-in. You listen to the game and whatever is on your PC through the PC. At the same time. Audio streams merged.

It works with all consoles. Or sound systems in general. I do it all the time. Though not so much for voice chat and mostly because I am too lazy switch my headphones around across my systems. But it is still pretty neat to be able to listen to something on my PC as I play were I to choose to do so.

But really. It's pretty simple stuff. Hence why I am so baffled by the images above. Have people forgotten what a line-in is?
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>>383617128
>>383617129
I forgot to mention that since the game has zero AA or any kind of post-processing to smooth out the jaggies, resolution is that much more relevant in this game.
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>>383617187
>Have people forgotten what a line-in is?
You can't expect kids of this generation to actually explore the tech they use on a daily basis.
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>>383617026
They have ever since Nintendo started to support online. The Wii U even had a video chat app.
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>>383616124
>Is resolution a meme
Yes.
As long as you're not under 720p the game will look fine. I personally find it hard to notice the difference between 1080p and 720p.

FPS > Graphical Quality > Resolution
You should never sacrifice FPS for graphical quality, at minimum you should offer 30 FPS for a casual playing experience. But multiplayer games NEED to run at a smooth 60 FPS.
And you should never sacrifice graphical quality over a better resolution, because better resolution won't fix your game looking like dog shit.
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>>383617187
I'm pretty sure most people in this thread don't even know what an AUX cable is
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>>383617284
You also forgot the part where the demo you clearly didn't play is out and it's nigh unnoticeable.
On paper you should notice it more, in reality you don't unless you have Superman tier vision.
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>>383617134
>And yes, it's competing with the PC, PS4, and XB1, but not by offering you resolution and that's it. The Switch offers you versatility, it offers you freedom, and it offers you a unique library of fantastic games at 60 fps, so it's the superior choice.

Boy oh fucking boy, that is some marketing-tier shilling. You admit it's competing with systems far more powerful than it, but try to fluff the console up by comparing it to a six year old handheld.

Pathetic.

>>383617160
Why not compare it to a phone if you wanna talk relevant handheld?
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>>383600084

3ds is a handheld

switch is a not a handheld, you can bring it outside but it's no where near as compact as a 3ds
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>>383617284
There is little bit of AA in splatoon2. Splatoon1 had zero though.
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>>383616435
It's true you faggy neckbeard, Redditor. Why do you want to talk to strangers? Get some friends.
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>>383599794
60 FPS over ANY resolution, if the PS4 would follow this concept it truly would be GOAT.
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>>383617596
It's a lot smaller than a Game Gear, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>383617518
Sorry, but I think it's rude to speak while you still have Nintendo's cock up your mouth. Finish that first then come back to me. Thanks.
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The only people pissed about no voice chat are nonces trying to chat to little kids. prove me wrong
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>>383616643
Stay mad Sonyroach. You have /nogames/ LOL
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>>383617527
because Phones are not relevant gaming platforms

>>383617635
Just get a PC idiot
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>>383617596
>but it's no where near as compact
Since when has that ever had anything to do with being a handheld?
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>>383617716
But I own one, faggachu?
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>>383617610
I can't talk to them either because the console won't let me.
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>>383600084
>Four people replied to this
>Now five
I weep for this board

Anyway, does it run in 720p or 1080p when docked?
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>>383617716
>because Phones are not relevant gaming platforms

You gonna fucking lie to yourself like that when their models for making profits are eeking into even AAA titles?
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>>383617775
Good. Go socialize in the real world.
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>>383617716
>because Phones are not relevant gaming platforms
Neither is the Vita, what's your point?
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>>383617836
Says the faggot posting on /v/.
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>>383617527
>comparing it to six year old handheld
That's because you have to look to the Vita to get the most relevant example of another gaming handheld (no, Android doesn't count).

And just because the console pushes fewer polygons doesn't make the games objectively worse
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>>383617527
I wasn't the guy that said that, I just jumped in the conversation to clarify why it is fair to compare it to the previous generation of handhelds anyway. And I don't actually give a fuck about resolution, but it's all you people seem to care about. Again, if you care so much about that, go watch a movie at some theater instead of playing video games.

>some marketing-tier shilling.
It's just facts and truth, though.
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>>383617931
Question, are you American?
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>>383617879
well then i guess the Switch is filling its own separate niche entirely by itself, neat.
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>>383617835
they already make more
pokemon go made a billion dollars
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>>383617635
It does. PS4 isn't holding a gun up to a developer's head and screaming "I FUCKING DARE YOU TO NOT DO 30FPS, JUST FUCKING TRY IT! I'LL PULL THE TRIGGER!"
There are hundreds of 60fps games on that system, just as there are hundreds of 30fps games. It's a case-by-case thing, not console-bound.
You logic makes no sense. Just because Splatoon2 runs at a smooth 60fps doesn't mean BoTW won't dip to literally 20fps or straight up freeze sometimes when hitting large monsters.
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>>383618000
facts and truth and numbers are irrelevant when it makes Sony look bad
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>>383617835
>>383618065
Phones are not relevant GAMING platforms
All those skinner box apps sure make a lot of money, but they're hardly video games.
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>>383616830
gyro is the literally best if you're not a retarded caveman scared of trying new stuff, you actually rotate like real aiming instead of dragging a rock around, while still being able to move with an analog instead of a machine made for writing
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>>383617968
>no, Android doesn't count

Why? Countless people play phone games. Nintendo is making phone games. Why does it count?
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>>383617835
sorry, Phones are not relevant gaming platforms outside of casual mobile shit
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>>383618083
You kind of just destroyed any argument you had with that poor excuse for gameplay you just posted
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>>383618147
That's true. I love how everybody seems to "forget" that the 3DS is actually the best selling 8th generation gaming console to this day. And thanks to the new 2DS and the new Pokemon, it's not gonna stop selling anytime soon.
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>>383618169
That is a fucking fallacy, man.

Again, Nintendo themselves are making phone games. You can play full on RPGs on your phone from Square. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, etc.

It's a majorly relevant platform.
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>>383618083
>Shitty indie game runs 60 fps

Come on dude, I'm a Sonybro and we both know that almost every WORTHWHILE Sony exclusive runs at 30 FPS.
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>>383618225
>Why?
Because it has few if any good games
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>>383618248
See >>383618225 >>383618319

Just because you don't like them doesn't make it true.
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>>383616606
Huh, I guess we're all agreed that it is the best multiplayer shooter on consoles. Even you shitposters couldn't offer any alternatives
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The actual game maintains a constant 60fps anyways, so who cares? The game looks mostly fine anyways aside from a few jagged corners. Sony/MS are targetting 4k with PS4Pro/XboxOneX, but they can't even get 60fps on those giant, beefy systems, which is just embarrassing. The whole idea for the XB1X is that it's supposed to play at uncompromised 4k, but it can't even do that since it has to use checkerboard rendering for half the games. So it can't play games in true 4k OR play games at 60fps, which is something I've been doing on my PC for years (and I mean I've been playing 4K30fps or 1080p60fps). Chasing higher resolutions is a fag's idea when 60fps is way more important anyways. Digital Foundry even points out that Nintendo games don't even look visually great, but they consistently outperform the higher end game consoles on the market. In 10 years, Nintendo's games are going to be more fun to play since they at least run at an acceptable 60fps, meanwhile PS4Pro/XB1X games are going to run like shit and they'll only look okay since graphical standards will be so much higher in the future.
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YOU'RE A KID NOW
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>>383618350
If you refuse to look, sure.

don't stick your head in the ground and ignore what's popular just because you don't like it.
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>>383618375
doesn't make what true? Phones are relevant because they can emulate 10 year old games? lol, enjoy your crossy road i guess
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>>383618319
>Nintendo themselves are making phone games
Oh, sure, a personal data quiz scheme, a GPS mini game and a dumbed down version of Mario. Sure are great video games.

>play full on RPGs on your phone
>with touch controls
I pity the poor bastards that do that.
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>>383618489
Lets hear a must have platforming defining Android game then :)

hardmode: no mobileshit
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>>383618501
Have you played some of the high end games out there? GBF? FGO?

You may not like them, but they have a wealth of content and are full on RPGs.
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yall squidfags are fucking pedophiles holy shit
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>>383618613
They literally have to reach maturity in order to transform, you idiot.
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>>383618559
Again, just because you don't like them, doesn't stop them from being popular. Pokemon GO made a ton of money.

>>383618590
Why? You are setting arbitrary rules for no reason, because you're annoyed that mobile gaming exists, and it popular, and is perfectly relevant when talking about other gaming consoles and systems.
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>>383618610
>GBF FGO

what? You seem to be under the impression that whatever this is is actually relevant.
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>>383618729
>because you're annoyed that mobile gaming exists

no I'm not I'm just explaining why people don't consider phones when comparing against the Switch
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>>383618769
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-04/psst-sony-has-a-hit-that-s-as-big-as-pokemon-go-in-japan

Again, you are ignorant. Fate/Grand Order is this massive financial success, that you just choose to ignore because it's on mobile.
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>>383618729
Except I never refuted their popularity, I refuted their quality and their status as actual video games, considering 99% of them are just money gouging schemes. Most of them have literally more in common with slot machines than with video games.
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>>383618802
Her teeth are perfect. I want to lick them. And her forehead.
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>>383618864
>Fate/Grand Order is this massive financial success

It doesn't make it a good game, and if we're just talking Japan then Switch is doing gangbusters there, so
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>>383618769
>he doesn't know
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>>383618083
It's funny you think Wipeout is impressive when Fast RMX can maintain 60 as well.
Also Wipeout uses dynamic resolution on the regular PS4 just like Splatoon does.
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>>383618897
Okay, so you dislike them.

That doesn't fucking mean anything. They're video games and are popular. You can't just stick your head in the sand and say "no no, these don't count, they will never count." These games are dictating the industry.
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>>383618897
so hearthstone is not a video game?
whats the line, the hardware?
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>>383617689

it's the other way around retard, game gear is 20% smaller

>>383617717

since fucking forever, that's why vita bombed, piece of shit that can't even bend and close, hurray for ruined screens, b-b-b-b-but muh oleds!! lmao!
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>>383610268
That's what you do with every game, you pathetic listless fuck.
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>>383618083
>>383619004
Fast RMX also seems a lot faster than that game, what the fuck?
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>>383618980
You literally just fucking argued that these games aren't relevant, and then brushed it off by saying it's not good.

You can't even follow your conversation thread. It's sad.
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>>383619050
Heathstone is just a virtual card game.
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>>383619130
no, I said they don't compare to the level of games that are coming out on the Switch, which is why people don't consider phones when comparing handhelds
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>>383618613
sorry but my dick isn't going in any squid if they're not at least 1080p
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>>383619089
It's a fuckton fatter anyway.
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>>383619041
Except mobile games are their own industry, with their own market and their own audience.
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>>383619221
FGO is making like, a million dollars a day.

You're right, it doesn't compare to these games, because it's destroying these games. It's an ecosystem that makes consistent money, and yet you ignore that, because you don't like it.
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>>383619274
Rest assured, it's 1080p at the plaza.
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>>383619089
>since fucking forever,
So absolutely never.
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>>383619369
>FGO is making like, a million dollars a day.

Doesn't make it a relevant game, are you so far up sony's butt you uniornically think sales figures are all that matter?
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>>383619352
And yet AAA titles stick cash shops and log in bonuses, and everything you see in mobile titles, in their games now.

If you aren't seeing the influence of mobile games throughout the entire industry, you aren't looking.
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So we've got 4 days until the demo starts.
Should we post friend codes?
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>>383619369
>FGO is making like, a million dollars a day.
God, that's disgusting. All that money wasted on a disguised slot machine.
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PAID ONLINE
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>>383600084
Ignore every faggot ninten drone that says it's not, it is and it's the best handheld ever.
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>>383617806
1080p
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>>383619530
POOR
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>>383619496
Why not?
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>>383619489
And that's why I haven't bought a triple A game in years, because I'm not a fucking idiot.
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>>383619483
What the fuck do you define as relevant, and why do you get to define it? It doesn't even matter if I'm talking about Sony, I can bring up GBF, or even Nintendo's own FEH.

These are the games influencing the industry.
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>>383619530
Not until next year and it's only one third the price of other systems.
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>>383619530
What about it?
Every console has it.
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>>383604867
I don't understand why Nintendo doesn't understand Online. What is so hard about it for these idiots? XBL and PSN have been a thing for more than a decade at this point
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>>383619597
The mobile game industry, sure. Gatcha is all you get nowadays in that shitfest of a market.
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>>383619665
I don't think you should bring up PSN as a good service anon.
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>>383619597
>What the fuck do you define as relevant
Basically anything above the level of flash game. I mean, what are you even arguing here? You have to include the phone when comparing handheld platforms because their games sell more? Fine, i can, and it still comes up short to the Switch
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>>383619369
I haven't been involved in this conversation until now, but wasn't this about technical specs to begin with? I don't see how business success is relevant when talking about technical capabilities and performance.
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>>383619740
>Basically anything above the level of flash game
So mobiles are a relevant gaming platform now?
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>>383619591
SW-4083-7389-6119
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>>383619740
>Basically anything above the level of flash game

So we're good.

Phones are more powerful than the Switch. They have more games than the Switch. They make more money than the Switch.

Yet you compare the Switch to the Vita, and say it's relevant, as it's the only real competitor?
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>>383619729
I didn't say it was good. My point is all Nintendo has to do is look at that and emulate it with their online. Say what you will about Sony and their online, at least they don't make you use a phone to access online or chat with friends.
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>>383619879
Let me just grab my Switch
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>>383619786
See >>383619907
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>>383619826
yes, when they have considerably higher turnover the industry becomes affected.
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>>383619826
no because it's all flash games
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>>383619879
>vaccine
How is it?
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>>383619907
>Yet you compare the Switch to the Vita, and say it's relevant, as it's the only real competitor?

Yes because the Vita, like the switch, is a dedicated games platform with actual games
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>>383619004
>It's funny you think Wipeout is impressive
Never said such a thing, those are PS3/Vita remasters after all. Just grabbed a random 60fps game. Splatoon2 isn't impressive graphically either. We are talking about framerates, not graphical prowess

>>383619097
Different gameplay styles. Wipeout is about thinking 2 corners ahead since the ships are so floaty, FastRMX is between Fzero and Wipeout when it comes to handeling, more of a reactionary game with shitty RNG obstacles. Also FastRMX has a larger FoV which makes the game LOOK faster and the tracks are 2x to 3x wider in generral, making higher speeds easier to work with.
AFAIK WipeOut actually gets faster than FastRMX in Zone mode above 150-ish laps, but those maps are balanced around higher speeds too.
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>>383616606
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>>383599794
xbox v playstation
>resolution doesn't matter it's all about framerate i'd rather play pong at 60fps

/v/gaf comments splatoon 2
>omg lol look at the shit grafix kek. what, who cares if its stable 60fps when grafix are that subpar. if it can't run decent 1080p, 60fps means absolutely nothing.
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>>383619530
I boycotted the Xboxes. I boycotted the PS4. And I am still incredibly depressed at how it will now be a thing for the Switch too.

But I absolutely refuse to exit the console gaming market altogether. So I'll finally cave in like the little fucking bitch that I am and pay for the damn online.
I'll continue to boycot the PS4 and I'll probably never get an Xbox. But if they make a PS5 I'll probably get it and cave in like the fuckwit that I am.

At the very least I resisted until all doors were closed. If only more people had done the same. But now it's all shit and it'll be shit for fucking ever. Paid online will probably find its way onto PC too. The industry will never improve beyond this point. And it woudn't surprise me if we'd have to pay for even more things in a few years, that have used to be free of charge. Like used games or whatever. It's all crashing down. Fuck everything. Worst console generation in the history of electronic games.
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>>383620094
It's hard but fair.
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>>383619907
>Phones are more powerful than the Switch.

umm not really
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>>383620102
So you choose to stay ignorant, while ignoring the encroaching dominance of mobiles, and aim for low hanging fruit like a six year old handheld to show the success of your preferred gaming console.
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>>383620221
like I said, even if we compare Phones, the games just aren't as good, nor is it as comfortable to use as the switch, really.
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>>383600101
This. Fps is far more important than resolution
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>>383620285
I mean, okay, so now you're arguing "it's comfy."

The specs are there. The games are there. The people are there. Just because you aren't there, doesn't mean the platform isn't relevant, and a director competitor not just to Nintendo, but the entire industry as a whole.
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>adaptive resolution
Please for the love of fuck just design games run run 1080 60fps. Make them look "worse", I don't care.

Anyway, this gameplay doesn't look much fun. I didn't play the first but what's the appeal?
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Nintendo should just leave consoles to the hardware masters, Sony. Seriously, this is getting embarrassing. They just push themselves more and more behind every gen.
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>>383620392
>I mean, okay, so now you're arguing "it's comfy."
no

>The specs are there. The games are there.
not really, again give me a good game that isn't some glorified flash program
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>>383619907
Phone gaming doesn't run with games to the scale of the Switch. You don't see Breath of the Wild on phones. Any phone that's advanced enough to be anywhere near the Switch's capabilities is going to be prohibitively expensive and of very little relevance to where the business success of mobile games is coming from.
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>>383620497
What a shame, to not want to join the graphics wank war
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>>383620497
The switch and the ps4 aim for totally different goals and it's really narrow minded to look at things from an entirely graphical standpoint.
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>>383620497
>Nintendo should just leave consoles to the hardware masters, Sony
You mean the people who always sell at a loss and lose out on sales of their own software?
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>>383620512
There are full on RPGs, platformers, anything you can ask for on the system, as well as original games that are ridiculously popular. Have you not seen the FEH, and FGO threads that populate /v/ regularly?

>>383620620
You bring up price as a matter, yet the original comparison was between the Switch and the Vita. Between the two, the former is twice as expensive.

That's ignoring the fact that most people get their phones for free through a contract, since, you know, these things are more or less essential to every day life now.
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>>383620790
>the former is twice as expensive.
Excuse me what? That anon is retarded about the phone stuff but you just blew him out of the water.
The Vita launched at $250 plus $60 memory card tax and that's just the regular version. The 3G version launched at the exact same price as the Switch also with said memory card tax.
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>>383620497
I already have a PC. PS4 graphics are already outdated, and it's funny how when PC comes in the table you fags stop replying.
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>>383620497
Then why is crash 30fps on the hardware master machine
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>>383621036
If you're comparing console released now, to a console released six years ago, why in the world would you list its original MSRP if for nothing other than to fluff up the newer product? The simplest courtesy you could offer is to point out that the Vita is considerably cheaper.
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>>383599794
>1152x648

That's great for a handheld. Switch confirmed not underpowered.
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>>383620454
A pretty comprehensive casual 3rd person shooter. It emphasises territory control and movement. Casual enough for even total scrubs to have a positive impact on your team if they find shit to paint
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>>383620790
>Have you not seen the FEH, and FGO threads that populate /v/ regularly?

um, no?
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>>383620790
>There are full on RPGs, platformers, anything you can ask for on the system,
still waiting for examples:)
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>>383621514
Well then you're fucking blind. There have been regular threads for both, to the point of where mods had to crack down and move them to /vg/.
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>>383620790
The point isn't just the price itself. It's that super-phones are irrelevant to the mobile gaming space that is actually successful in business. You can say "Phone games make a lot of money" and "There exist super-powerful phones", but that does not mean that there is a lot of money in games made for super-powered phones. The success of mobile is in low-spec games that can reach the widest audience possible because they work on phones that are everywhere in the market, not in cutting-edge Galaxy S8s.
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>>383621615
I just fucking looked at the Google Play Store and saw Skullgirls on there. Like, you know, the fighting games? There are Final Fantasy games, a slew of old Sega releases. You can find pretty much anything, on top of some of the popular originals I mentioned, like FGO, and FEH.
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>>383599794
UNPLAYABLE FUCK JEWTENDO AND ITS PIXEL GRAPHICS
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>>383621742
You can pretty much make the same argument for a lot of PC gaming.
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>>383621245
>why in the world would you list its original MSRP
You already answered your own question you retard.
>to a console released six years ago
You're comparing a system that has had a price slash in those six years to one that came out just over 4 months ago and hasn't recieved the same treatment yet.
Not to mention the Vita at retail still sells at about 200 plus the very same $60 memory card tax.

>The simplest courtesy you could offer is to point out that the Vita is considerably cheaper.
Except it launched at a greater price than the Switch, dumbass.

Also
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>>383599794
i used to play csgo at 480p because i had a literal toaster
i watch youtube videos at 240p because my internet is balls
it's a non-issue, who cares
as long as the game is fun
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>>383622073
Oh yeah and I'm referring to the slim in the first part.
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>>383606674
>86 vs 6

Whoever you six people are that prefer 30fps, fuck you. You are the cancer killing gaming and are the reason why the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X exist.
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>>383622151
Get some fucking standards.
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>>383622073
Dude, are you fucking comparing individual Amazon sellers as you're proof that the Vita is that expensive? The reason it costs so much there is because it's pretty much a dead system, and not exactly producing more of them.

Go onto Gamestop and the things like, $150. Used, or refurbished, yeah, but that points out how ridiculous the original comparison is. It's a dead console.
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>>383622316
i don't play games to look at pretty pictures, i got films for that
i have standards for gameplay, just don't care about graphics that much
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>>383622430
>i don't play games to look at pretty pictures, i got films for that

You said you watched youtube at 240p. I'd say you stretch even that argument.
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>>383614557
>>383616357
>>383616830
>overwatch fans
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>>383622430
I want to actually see the games i'm playing.
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>>383622523
i don't watch movies on youtube bro
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>>383622645
Struck a nerve, kiddo?
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>>383622703
I don't know what you watch on youtube where 240p actually is acceptable. Podcasts?
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>>383622656
1152×648 is very visible
Unless you're autistic you won't notice it
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>>383622405
>Dude, are you fucking comparing individual Amazon sellers as you're proof that the Vita is that expensive?
And did you notice how none of them go reached the different you thought it was at?

>The reason it costs so much there is because it's pretty much a dead system, and not exactly producing more of them.
So what you're saying is that it's not exactly cheaper even in this day and age

What exactly are you trying to prove by saying it's not expensive?

>$150. Used, or refurbished
A six year old console.
Launched at the same price as the 3DS.
And it's still considerably more expensive. At best the thing should be about $80 especially since there's no demand for the thing.

Again, what exactly are you trying to prove by saying it's not expensive?
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>>383614479

How?
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>>383618409
lmao are those gamecube graphics? switch is dead
go 3rd party nintendo
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>>383622832
http://www.gamestop.com/ps-vita/consoles/playstation-vita-system-slim/115703

This is about right.

>What exactly are you trying to prove by saying it's not expensive?

I'm sorry buddy, when manufacturers stop producing new consoles, their price tends to spike, and unopened ones gain in value.

>Again, what exactly are you trying to prove by saying it's not expensive?

It's half the price of the Switch, which is the original absurd argument. I'll fully say the 3DS is the winner here, but it only makes the Switch look pathetic by comparing it to the Vita- a fucking dead and irrelevant console.
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>>383620121
Fun, but na, movement is shit, and it's not really balanced. Great game to fuck around in with friends though

>>383623176
did you have a console shooter to suggest, sir?
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>>383623206
>This is about right.
>used
And on top of that it's more expensive than your previous statement of $150 and one more time Memory card tax.

>I'm sorry buddy, when manufacturers stop producing new consoles, their price tends to spike
Yeah, years later when they become somewhat hard to find.
As it stands you can still buy vitas from regular retailers, they aren't in such a position yet they're still ridiculously expensive.

>It's half the price of the Switch
Yeah after six fucking years.
Most systems as I said would be about $80 at this point.

>but it only makes the Switch look pathetic by comparing it to the Vita- a fucking dead and irrelevant console.
Yeah a dead, irrelevant console released six years ago no one wants that still costs a fortune for what it is and when it was released compared to a new console everyone wants released only a measly 4 months ago.

What aren't you getting here?
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>>383623638
killzone :)
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whoa it uses dynamic resolution scaling to keep resolution holy shit NO OTHER GAMES IN HISTORY HAVE EVER DONE THIS

what the fuck did you retards expect from a 200$ tablet it's 200$ worth of hardware, I'm subtracting controller+dock prices
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>>383623206
>It's half the price of the Switch
>Half the price of the Switch
>$159 + $80 for a decent memory card
>$239 is half price
What
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>>383599794
>1152x648
>1152x648

>Year 2017

if you buy this shit before it has free games due to hacks you are a true peon
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>>383623892
*to keep framerate
damn i can't even formulate my own thoughts correctly
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>>383623738
Oh shoot, I forgot about Killzone! Nice call, anon :) Hey guys, let's go play some Killzone instead
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>>383623892
That's not what you pay though, so judgement will match accordingly.
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>>383623732
>And on top of that it's more expensive than your previous statement of $150

Oh for the love of god it's 10 bucks more, don't be pedantic.

>As it stands you can still buy vitas from regular retailers, they aren't in such a position yet they're still ridiculously expensive.

Alright. Show me Amazon selling it. Show me Gamestop.

You know why I linked to used versions? Cause they don't fucking sell them. The Amazon things you listed earlier were from individual private sellers, not the company itself, which is the rub.

>>383623958
If you're gonna bring up memory cards, you better toss in the Switch's SD card "tax."
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>>383623176
lmao tons of shooters beat this baby shit
Overwatch, has hot chicks
Starwars Battlefront, looks dope and has good graphics
Destiny, looks really dope and ain't gay
Killzone, hella fun
Call of Duty, there's a reason why it sells so well, cause it's good and nothing can beat it
This game, yeah it looks gay lol
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>>383624106
>If you're gonna bring up memory cards, you better toss in the Switch's SD card "tax.
Switch doesn't need a card anon. Unlike the Vita it has accessible internal storage.
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>>383617701
>ad hom
someone lost the argument lmao
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>>383624106
you don't need an sd card for the switch and its cheaper without being proprietary, so
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>>383599794
I'm not defending the shitty resolution but at least Nintendo didn't fall for the "30FPS is acceptable in all genres" meme. I'm looking at you driveclub 30FPS is completely unacceptable for a racing game, at least Polyphony Digital is not a bunch of retards and realizes a racing game should target 60FPS.
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>>383624007
>so judgment will match accordingly
You ought to be capable of understanding that the controllers and dock are a significant part of the system's value. You didn't pay 300$ for the Switch tablet by itself, you paid for the tablet, two joy-cons, a grip, and a dock.

For most consoles, this isn't much of a consideration, since they only come with one controller that retails for ~50-60 bucks, but the Switch is bundled with a lot of accessories for a single console.

On top of that, it's a tablet, and it's retarded to expect the level of performance of a box six times its size.
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>>383624157
Well posted Anon
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>>383624157
real shit though i would fuck the squid chicks
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>>383624157
>Killzone is the only one described as fun
>>383623738 was right! Killzone is the best console shooter
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>>383624402
No shit. Anything else captain obvious, other than you're a faggot of course?
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>>383610136
1280x720 standard 1.777 ratio
1152x648 standard 1.777 ratio
648/720 = 0.9
1152/1280 = 0.9
It's just shrinking 720p by 10% to both ratios for a reduction of 19% area.
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>>383624106
>Cause they don't fucking sell them.
Well of course you're not going to find them if you give up like that. You'll see a few bundles in stores, mostly the slim, because they want to get rid of the few stragglers and such but you'll never find it listed online.

In any case, I don't think you really have a point any more given that your cheapest example isn't even half price, doesn't factor in the memory card and is a dead system.
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>>383623959

>you are a true peon

I tip my fedora to you good sir.
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>>383625135
My point was that comparing the fucking Vita to the Nintendo Switch was completely ridiculous. I'm amazed that this conversation stretched on as long as it had. Are you that adamant about the price issue, or do you genuinely think comparing a home console to a six year old handheld is sensible in any fashion?

I think the fact that you can even present an official retailer offering a price for a Vita new anymore kind of lessens the strength of your point.
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>>383624980
Captain Obvious here, reminding everyone here that this anon is choking on cocks.

My point is that it's fucking stupid to complain about the Switch not being able to handle constant 1080/60 for modern games, especially without any sort of external cooling from the dock. Your previous post seemed to be defending people's judgment of the Switch as such.
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>>383625478
>Are you that adamant about the price issue
>you
Are you just going to assume that everyone who replies to you is the same person?

>do you genuinely think comparing a home console to a six year old handheld is sensible in any fashion?
Depends on what you're comparing. The price it's not reasonable in the slightest because the Vita has had more time out than the Switch, and hasn't dropped by much mind you.
Hardware? It'd say that's acceptable.

>I think the fact that you can even present an official retailer
Because I can't go across the world just to take photos of stores.
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