Should I play this game? Is it worth the time investment? Is

>>383576309
>What differentiate this from other MMOs?
A vastly superior prequel.

>>383576309
PVE is a joke. WvWvW is the only playable aspect for me and they messed it up with the latest update, even then it involves running around in a blob of people hoping your blob is the biggest blob. You can get sucked into certain elements like cooking/crafting but it's basically a waste of time.

TLDR it's ok, not the best. Pretty cheap though.

>>383576309
It's not P2W if anything it's pay to dress up. The grind doesn't change at max level you just continue doing what you've been doing, no real endgame.

>>383576309
I personally like the questing and exploration aspect of the game, but the game lacks proper end-game content, unless you're really into PvP stuff.
Pretty much all the stuff you can buy with real money are cosmetic or QoL stuff, nothing that directly improves your chances of winning a fight.

If you are going to play it, I'd suggest playing with a friend or joining a guild, because playing it solo will kill the experience.

>>383576309
Depends, do you want to get fucked in the ass with a chainsaw by the developers?

>>383578039
fucking overpriced chainsaw

It doesn't have random unused space like FFXIV.

https://a.pomf.cat/nhsgfz.mp4

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will this be a good thing or a bad thing /v/?

One of the better levelling experiences in mmos but the endgame is pretty bad because they fell for the horizontal progression meme.

The structured pvp is pretty good if that's your thing. The WvW is kind of ok if you're lucky and awful and miserable if you're not. If it's something you're into look up pairings and server populations because it actually matters for that unlike everything else in the game.

The Heart of Thorns content is a lot less fun than it was on release since there aren't so many people doing it, but if you can find a guild that runs those maps for events it's pretty fun. I never did the raids but they seem kind of neat.

>>383577817
Pay to dress up like shit though. The best skins are the ones that aren't in the gemstore.

>>383578710
Horizontal progression just like linear progression isn't inherently bad, the problem is that developers just don't know how to do it properly.

>>383576309
It's a great game if you like mmorpgs, like exploring and hate the insane grind of "endgame"

Vast majority of people who play mmorpgs quit once they get to the end.

>>383579069
>hate the insane grind of "endgame"
except that is what guild wars 2 turned into. typical korean grinder. cash shop included. time-gated crafting, gated skill(s) via xp grind. etc etc.

>>383579219

Pretty much why I stopped playing. Are ascended weapons still a retarded endless grind to get?

>>383578682

Irrelevant. NCSoft still owns their asses.

>>383579348
all can be crafted, but crafting them is class a fucking retarded. it's autistic in every sense of the word. I made one longbow and said fuck it. won't ever do it again.

>>383579219
It's main creation was as a game you played till the end for the story, you can still do that. You can buy it, explore the world, experience the story and quit at level cap. That's what I did and I was happy with the purchase.

Almost every other mmorpg on the market sells itself on it's endgame which is always a shitty grind.

>>383579506

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. The grind to make ascended weapons makes Warframe seem sensible.

>>383576309
>Should I play this game?
Have you played Guild Wars 1? If yes then no
>Is it worth the time investment? Is there a social aspect or is it just a grind fest until you hit max level?
It's a boring theme park and crafting takes ages
>Are there money sinks or P2W aspects in the game?
Not really, but you can waste your money on cosmetics. Oh and you can buy gold if you don't want to farm.
>What differentiate this from other MMOs?
Guild Wars 1 was different. Guild Wars 2 is just a big pile of shit and a generic crap MMO.

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>>383576309
>is it worth the time investment
No videogame is worth the time investment ever
As for this one, it's okay as some kind of hack and slash rather than a full fledged MMORPG
It's nice to fuck around in those huge environments and destroy shit and PvP is alright
If you're seeking a complete MMO to pour all your time in though you'll quickly get bored

Can anyone explain how the dungeons work during leveling? I think there is not dungeon finder so how do I do them?

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>>383580401
There is
In the social menu with your friendlist and shit there's a small dungeon browser where you can pick a dungeon and see if parties are recruiting to run it
Don't lose your time with it though, dungeons are dead as fuck so you'll hardly find anybody to run them with
Just grab a couple of friends or guildmates and run with it

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>>383579516
>It's main creation was as a game you played till the end for the story

Why would anyone want to play this game for the story?

>>383580401
The LFG tool unlocks at level 30 on free to play accounts and the first dungeon is level 30, you'll get a mail each time you reach the appropriate level for a dungeon.

Each dungeon is made of a story instance that you have to run first to unlock 3 alternative dungeons paths called exploration which are higher level. So that's 4 paths per dungeon, 5 in the last one.

But those dungeons are kinda shit, Fractals is where it's at but those start at level 80 I belive.

>>383576309
GW2 is the least grindy mmo out there. You can reach max cap without even completing the main quest or even half the world map.

No pay to win out there. PVP upscaes you to max level with everything unlocked and gives you all the free gear you need. You'll have everything except for the elite classes which unlock by purchasing the expansion.

World vs world however carries over your pve stats and gear and you won't be boosted to max level.

There are plenty of gold sinks in the game. You can convert in game gold to premium currency to spend on the cash shop which sells cosmetic as well as convenience items.

The unique things to me about gw2 is the dynamic events that really brings in a group of players without needing to party with them and together finish up a quest/event. It also has once a month content updates called living story which leads to the next expansion which is coming soon. The devs are also constantly attending the game so you won't have to worry about it dying anytime soon. There's a patch every Tuesday that either adds more cash shop items or balance/content updates

>>383576309
If you like gearing up, you'll hate it, as all gear kind of "doesn't exist" in the sense that its stats are completely tuned to whatever level you're supposed to have it at, and there's no variation at all

>>383579506
Yeah the day I finally finished building my ascended longsword was the day I quit the game. At least they're not character bound and not that much better than the second best rarity.

>>383580705
>There's a patch every Tuesday that either adds more cash shop items or balance/content updates

I think what you really meant was:
>There's a patch every Tuesday that always adds more cash shop items and extremely minor bug fixes and a patch every 3 months that adds balance updates

>>383580893
That's wrong. Simply google gw2 patch notes and you'll find an archive on their forum of everything and as you can see they do major updates atleast twice a month

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>>383576309
>What differentiates this from other MMOs?

Asura

Character progression is mostly just visual, this is a deal breaker for me. Not worth the time imo.

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>>383581131
Charr are better tbqh

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>>383581131
this

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>>383581415
Nah

>>383577493
Fpbp

>>383581131
>>383581415
Both of you should be gassed. Especially the furfag.

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>>383581479
>>383581652

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>>383581136
Level progression is something you do in a week or less, really. If you have Heart of Thorns you also get the skills that apply to the expansion area merchant and travel availability + you can upgrade your glider.

>>383576309
>Should I play this game?
No, spend that money on food or something this game is one of the worst invesments you can make.

>>383581136
Too bad the game will always be like that because of the mastery system and the way it downgraded you to appropriate levels so you can't one shot mobs. The one positive thing it does is that it makes you git gud at the game. Seriously some of the HoT skill points shit all over your gear progression if you can't master the fights

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>>383581652
Tbh, Charr are pretty tasteful for furfaggotry.

>>383582084
This. And Asuras are just plain cuties.

>>383576309
Don't. None of the people who made first GW are still working on this game, maybe one-two of them are still there.
It's the same situation like with Andromeda where they let SJWs without any experience make a game.
Really sad because game had a huge fucking potential.

>>383577817
it is p2w for pvp though

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>>383582327
The design quality mostly ranges from meh to good. The only part that has a genuine SJW shitfest vibe are in the writing. The biggest strength is in the environment design. HoTs areas are genuinely fun to explore + atmospheric. I guess think the dividing question is if you enjoy some jumping puzzles here and ther to mix it up.

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>>383576309
Just hopping through.

>>383576309
just expect 0 endgame. i quit after getting 3 characters to max and doing speedruns through dungeons.

you don't kill shit, you just skip everything with cheap shit until you hit the boss.

WvW is shit, its just people spamming skills in 1 spot for a long time.

classes feel like crap, you will keep trying everything until you realize every class feels the same.

the only good thing about this game is the world, its really well done. leveling doesn't feel like a total chore to do but after that there is nothing to do.

>>383578664
FFXIV is designed with future updates in mind

GW2 never updates

>>383582809
The design quality stays "good" only in parts that have been borrowed or reimagined from the first game. Everything else they've done is shit.

>>383576309
Do it
Exploration is really fun
There is 0 lategame though so just drop it after reaching max level

>>383578975
>Its not bad
>Just no one has ever done it "right"

>>383576309

The gliding is awesome. I stopped playing but I heard you can glide at extreme heights in the new maps.

It also has the highest dive I've seen in an mmo.

It does a few things pretty well, like you have your own resources on the map and you can join in a fight and get rewards. However the game gets pretty boring at the endgame. I just login when there's a new update and play the story. I suppose the game is worth playing if you're able to make friends in games. I tried to join guilds but they always end up dead

>>383583261
By your argument there IS no good progression because linear progression in wow is fucking garbage as well.

>>383583587
No thats just your argument and ignores every other MMO (and RPGs in general) where linear progression has worked.

There are more RPGs than WoW.

>>383583178
HW had a lot of map sections not be used for anything. Forelands was a big culprit.

>>383584197
And your argument ignores all the games where horizontal progression has worked. There are more rpgs than GW2.

>>383584558
Go ahead and get naming.

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snouts or babyfaces?

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>>383585313

>>383585313
Firefall before the themepark update.
Helldivers.
Several FPS games.
Alien swarm.

>>383585880
that's no horizontal progression
that's still vertical progression
you just reach the highest tier of armor really fast

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>>383585492
Vanilla will always be the best.