I honestly don't understand the love for this system. It

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>>383556862
>haha I'm a salty faggot, this post is bait, here's an old meme haha xD

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The gen aged like milk. Just Spyro on PS1 and a handful of N64 titles are the only things that I'd say genuinely aged gracefully.

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>>383556934

Funny thing, OP, because Crash was released before Banjo Kazooie, so no, not everything was a sad clone.

I can't believe I read all your arguments.

>>383557016
The whole gen aged like milk, but the PS1 aged like semen.

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>>383556753

>>383557016
Crash 3 Warped aged pretty well too.

tl,dr

stop posting this thread

>>383557146
Yeah I'm not sure why a 2D precision platformer like Crash and a 3D exporation platformer like Kazooie are being compared

What's with all the shitposting about old consoles lately?

>>383556753
yeah it was hugely mediocre, even for the time. was always very jealous of my friends with the n64 and later dreamcast
legend of dragoon was good doh
>>383556862
underage af senpai

>>383557146
I never said Crash didn't come out before Banjo, just that most things on the system are shitty clones of better games. Crash is a fucking terrible game. It's a corridor with no powerups or cool moves where you spend 75% of your time jumping on boxes collecting fruit.

>>383556753
Holy fuck d*de th*t's Fuck*ing epic!

>>383557253
t. 1st grade reading level

>>383557291
>no powerups or cool moves
good lord, fuck off you complete child, evidently you don't understand what makes a video game good so just stop posting

>>383556753
>Texture Warping
Patented fancy immersion triangles
>no AA
Complimentary jaggles to got with them wiggles, and jiggles.

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Nice thread.

>>383557437
>good lord, fuck off you complete child, evidently you don't understand what makes a video game good so just stop posting
No, apparently you don't. I'm deeply sorry that your childhood was wasted on trash games like Trash Bandicoot but it doesn't make the game any less shit. Games like SM64 and Banjo had EVERYTHING Crash had x10. Huge worlds filled with secrets and collectibles, cool powerups, cool characters, cool abilities, better graphics, better controls, better everything. I didn't even own an N64, and even as a 14 year old in 1996 I knew how much better these games were when I played them at friends' houses. Crash is fucking terrible and you know it. The entire game is "KUTA BAGA -- jump on box to get fruit". Fuck yourself faggot.

>>383557640
Your bait is still bad and you need to delete your thread cause you keep comparing two unreleated games

>>383557437
What do you want me to say? Congratulations Timmy, you know how to write a text even if it's all garbage gibberish. Here's your gold star for effort and participation prize. Good boy.

>>383557701
You're right, they are unrelated. They're both 3D platformers, but one is total shit and the other two are awesome.

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>>383557016
>Just Spyro
Why would you out yourself as a pleb like that?

>>383557291
>a fucking terrible game
I think terrible is a bit of reach, but it's "my opinion > your opinion", so nothing to talk here.

And you did the comparison between Crash and Banjo, and also said that everything was a clone, so I clarified the point of clones.

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>Sonybros still try to prop up the meme that they've won since Sony entered the market
PS1 was a metric fuckton of 7/10s against most of the best games of the generation.

>>383557734
Meant for >>383557352

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>>383557782
No horror game has ever aged well

>>383557801
It's funny, because if you actually try to get a pony to name PS1 games better than shit like Ocarina of Time, they start screeching sales numbers and "FF7" (one of the most boring games ever made). It's sad, honestly. It's like watching some fat autistic fuck argue that Pabst Blue Ribbon is better than a good craft beer just because it sells more.

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>>383557640
>big empty worlds full of pointless collectibles and mediocre platforming
vs
>tight, focused levels with actual challenge and no bullshit

Crash 2 is a much, much better video game than any of your open world collectathons designed to appease 10 year olds with ADHD

It has R-Type Delta and Gradius Gaiden so it wins

Ok good for you.
Still the second best console behind ps2
if you think things like crash spyro FF7/T THPS brave fencer musashi suikoden 2 vagrant story castlevania SotN dino crisis valkyrie profile parasite eve legacy of kain tenchu and legend of mana are bad then how have you not commit sudoku in the last 11~ years

>>383557801
Still the PS1 was being bought like hot cakes and was the fondation to what would be the PS2, aka best selling console of all times.

>>383556753

All that wall of text just to tell us 'I have shit taste.'

>>383557939
I dont like OOT so practically all games are better than it in my eyes

>>383557998
>Crash 2 is a much, much better video game than any of your open world collectathons designed to appease 10 year olds with ADHD
Hahaha, look at this faggot. Look at this faggot and laugh. You wish Trash Bandicoot was even as good as the tip of Banjo's fat bear dick. There is literally not ONE single thing about Crash that is better than any of the major N64 platformers. It is a fucking terrible series with terrible mechanics. You are a retarded nostalgiafag who is still upset that mommy didn't buy you any other console as a child so you defend your shit series to the death because it makes you feel better.

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I like the internet. Being able to see the opinions of others is nice.

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>>383558168
It's okay anon, you're allowed to be gay.

>>383558218
>no argument, only ad hom
bait confirmed, everyone move along

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>>383558374
>No argument
>Uses "bait" unironically
Homosexual identified.

>>383558324
just not my cup of tea
none of the zelda games are alttp is the only one I managed to finish out of LoZ OoS OoT MM TP and botw
Hydro thunder was my go to game on the n64

>>383557767
Not him but while it's true they're both 3D Platformers, they do have different focuses. A better comparison would be Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, and 3 against Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World since those two 3D Mario games pretty much try to have the same focus as Crash.

Also Crash isn't even the only 3D platformer to have that kind of style of gameplay for a 3D platformer. Games like Rayman 2 and 3 also have them (as well as 3D Land and 3D World).

Sony won during that era
Just look how nintendo had to start pandering to casuals, and start selling gimmicky shit

>>383558307
Me too little kitten, me too.

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shit taste t b h

>>383558550
>Not him but while it's true they're both 3D Platformers, they do have different focuses.
Yeah... they really don't. The main difference is that one is shit and the other isn't. You jump around a 3D world, you collect things, you attack things. That's a 5th gen 3D platformer for you. You can try to dismiss the comparison by saying "b-but Crash is supposed to be linear!", but nothing will change the fact that Crash is a fucking terrible game with terrible, limited mechanics that tries to accomplish the same goal as Banjo, a game which encourages freedom of movement, exploration and action in the same ways, but does a far better job at it.

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>>383558569
>Sony won during that era
Yeah, and consumers lost.

how autistic do you have to be to care this much about an old console

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>>383557881
old horror games are comfy as fuck.

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>>383558471

>>383558739
>but nothing will change the fact that Crash is a fucking terrible game with terrible, limited mechanics that tries to accomplish the same goal as Banjo,

But it never tried to have the same goal as Banjo. Games can be in the same genre but still have different focuses from each other.

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>>383558793
>how autistic do you have to be to care this much about an old console
>browsing a video game board on a semi-obscure Japanese image board website
Good job faggot, you just blew your load in your own ass.

>>383556753
>there isn't a single game that is better than an 8/10

My god. 8/10. the horror. 8/10 games are trash.

>>383558739
Better mechanics mean nothing when your level design is a bunch of barren uninteresting landscapes, your game structure is mind numbing item hunting and the enemies might as well not exist

>>383558789
How did they lost?
They got a CD reader a dvd and BD, all because sony decided to give make full of their laser based console
Tell me a logical reason for why is that bad

>>383558910
>8/10 games are trash.
I know, which is why the PS1 shouldn't even exist.

>>383558817
I'm scared to this day if I play Dino Crisis or Silent Hill. 10/10 would have myself scared again.

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>>383558956
>Better mechanics mean nothing when your level design is a bunch of barren uninteresting landscapes
Hahahaha, is this seriously what you tell yourself to make you feel better about growing up with a shitty console dude? Banjo had some fucking incredible environments, and "barren, uninteresting landscapes" and "mind numbing item hunting" literally fucking describes Crash. You spend the ENTIRE GAME running through corridors collecting fruit, and you're going to try and tell me that the large, expansive worlds of Banjo and SM64, filled with a variety of cool obstacles and items to collectible is "uninteresting" or "mind numbing"? You are fucking retarded, seriously.

>>383558739
this is the kind of autist that thinks assassin's creed or is a good game because the map is crammed with pointless busiwork "content" that gives you the illusion that you're making progress / doing something worthwhile within the game

sorry, but collect-a-thons like banjo have been and always will be shit games, you should have realized this once you passed the age of 15

>>383558957
Of course you can say that Sony started to going to shit, with the ps3
But even then the PS3 was BC and had no region locking, but had many other bad things

>>383556753
Holy fucking shit this post sucks.

>>383559154
>Banjo had some fucking incredible environments
Fucking lol nigger most of the environments are just flat terrain with a few bumps here and there and no challenging platforming or enemies. "Large, expansive worlds" is a fucking retarded statement, who the hell wants large worlds if they're so sparsely populated and boring? I bet you love the recent open world games you utter brainlet. Crash levels actually flow together and throw little challenges at you constantly in the same vein as 2D platformers did

>>383559218
>this is the kind of autist that thinks assassin's creed or is a good game
Whoa now, assassin's creed is fucking shit. Don't make an ass out of yourself by assuming anything my nigger.

>sorry, but collect-a-thons like banjo have been and always will be shit games, you should have realized this once you passed the age of 15
Except Banjo isn't just a "collectathon", it's a good platformer with legitimately good gameplay. The only reason Crash isn't a "collectathon" is because there's nothing to collect. You literally hop on fucking boxes while fruit pours out -- how autistic is that? The rest of the game consists of shitty corridor platforming segments with weak action and poor hitboxes. You are lying to yourself and pretending Crash wasn't boring as fuck when, in actuality, it was.

>>383559410
>Fucking lol nigger most of the environments are just flat terrain with a few bumps here and there and no challenging platforming or enemies. "Large, expansive worlds" is a fucking retarded statement, who the hell wants large worlds if they're so sparsely populated and boring?
Oh I see, so you haven't actually played the games. Because if you want flat terrain with " a few bumps", you'll play Crash Bandicoot. The entire game is a fucking corridor with not a single fucking interesting thing in it. I don't even know how you can come to the blissfully retarded conclusion that Banjo is "sparsely populated" when it has jiggies, notes, jinjos, mumbo tokens and other things to see and do, meanwhile Crash has... wumba fruits, and the same jumping obstacles repeated over and over and over. You are talking out of your fucking ass it and shows. What a fucking retard.

>>383556753
>chrono trigger on psone

Stopped reading here.

>>383559482
the long and short of it is, crash games, while not perfect, give you challenge that is deliberately paced and rewarding in all the right ways, like the platformers of old

Banjo, DK64 and the like rely on the childike mentality of "exploring is fun" and "collecting gold shiny things is fun", there is barely any substance to it

>>383559664
Except it has tons of bottomless pits, enemies that can actually kill you, various little timing challenges where the punishment is death instead of just going uphill for a bit.
>when it has jiggies, notes, jinjos, mumbo tokens and other things to see and do
Meaningless junk, I want platforming challenges in my platformer not some floating fucking items idiot

>>383559769
it got a ps1 port
one plagued with load times before battles but it exists I own a copy and completed it many years ago

>>383556753
Why do idiots like post stupid bait for (yous)? Do you ever get bored of the attention whoring faggotry?

>>383556753
Maybe you're just stupid.

>>383559828
>give you challenge that is deliberately paced and rewarding in all the right ways, like the platformers of old
Bullshit, the game isn't "deliberately paced" or even close to challenging. Deliberately paced is not spending literally most of your game time hopping on top of crates collecting fruits. You are kidding yourself.

>>383559872
>
Meaningless junk, I want platforming challenges in my platformer not some floating fucking items idiot
Exactly, you haven't played the fucking game. You don't just run in a straight path and collect all of those items, they're locked behind dozens of different types of obstacles and challenges, unlike Trash Bandicoot where you LITERALLY run in a straight line and collect the only item in the game -- fruit. How fucking sad.

>>383559828
He has the brain of a child so pointless junk appeals to him more than well made levels "look at these floating notes hahaha so cool!!! hurrr"

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>>383560081
>Maybe you're just stupid.
Nah, you're just autistic. A common trait among Sony fans.

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>>383560145
>enjoys a game where you run in a straight line the entire time
>LOL U GOT CHILD BRAIN
Just drink bleach and get it over with.

>>383560107
You don't run in a straight line unfortunately, instead you wander around until you run into something resembling the simplest challenge in Crash, then you clear it to get some shitty fucking collectable item and keep wandering around the empty "expansive" world but it's ok cause you have some notes to pick up right? Kys brainlet

>>383560301
>insults the game he's arguing in favor of
>"Kys brainlet"
This is literally how retarded you have to be to enjoy Sony games.

>>383560107
>Bullshit, the game isn't "deliberately paced" or even close to challenging. Deliberately paced is not spending literally most of your game time hopping on top of crates collecting fruits. You are kidding yourself.

The point of crash isn't to collect fruit or jump on boxes you blithering autist. The point is to get through the level by overcoming its platforming challenges. Fruit and crates are there to provide optional incentive / bonus by collecting them to gain extra lives, or in the case of crates provide platforming puzzles while also giving you optional challenge of destroying them all for a gem.

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>Thinking Crash and Banjo are the same game
>Thinking the N64 had more good games than the PS1 in either number or ratio
>Thinking N64 had good platformers besides Mario 64 and Banjo 1 (Which isn't even that good itself having played it recently)
>Thinking Perfect Dark wasn't overrated shit

>>383560259
>enjoys a game where you run in a straight line the entire time
What you mean any classic 2D platformer in history? Gonna shit on those too? lmao you collectathon retards are unbelievable

>>383557276
Young kids are now playing the crash remasters and getting butthurt so they decide to shitpost about the older gens. The average age of a /v/ poster is 17.

>>383560489
>The point of crash isn't to collect fruit or jump on boxes you blithering autist. The point is to get through the level by overcoming its platforming challenges.
LOL! No fucking shit, the point of a platformer is to "overcome platforming challenges", good point retard.

>Fruit and crates are there to provide optional incentive / bonus by collecting them to gain extra lives
Right, just like all of the many things you can collect in Banjo that are totally optional but are more interesting to obtain and do different things.

>>383560392
Get some basic reading comprehension or better yet make yourself useful and go play an irl collectathon by collecting some trash in the streets

>>383560672
>Get some basic reading comprehension
How about you learn how to write first? Because if you were talking about Banjo, you should have said Banjo instead of Crash. If you want, I'll be glad to explain how your last reply was fucking retarded and more poorly written than a nigger's financial assistance application. Holy fuck you are stupid.

If you don't think vagrant story and final fantasy tactics aren't the tightest shit then gtfo.

>>383558137
And this post just says "You don't like the stuff I like so you have shit taste"

>>383560839
>If you don't think vagrant story and final fantasy tactics aren't the tightest shit then gtfo.
Vagrant Story is shit and FFT was upended by FFTA in every possible way, making it pointless to own. If these two games comprise your reasons for owning the console, re-evaluate your life.

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>>383556753
>I'm not an angry N64 or Saturn fan
> Anyone who says the "blur" of N64 games or lack of 3D Saturn games clearly hasn't played the PS1 because it looks terrible
>every single game that isn't complete dirt is a turn-based JRPG -- everything else is a sad clone of better games from other consoles.
>Anyone who says Spyro or Crash is better than Banjo-Kazooie, or Alien Resurrection is better than Perfect Dark, or any other common comparisons like this is fucking retarded

Actually, you're either a bitter N64-fag or a bitter Saturn-fag, probably the former.

You can't dislike the PS1 and like the N64/Saturn without being a fanboy, they all aged equaly bad, but the PS1 had the most diverse library.

>>383560993
>aged
Kill yourself

>>383560778
>Because if you were talking about Banjo, you should have said Banjo instead of Crash
Just admit that your brain hasn't developed enough to fully comprehend what you're reading instead of doing mental gymnastics to rationalize your fuck up. I compared Banjo challenges to the most rudimentary challenges in Crash, why in the name of fuck would I mention Banjo in this context, you brainless shitstain? Because your poo brain can't derive meaning from context and only goes by the only game title you see? Forget what I said about voluntary garbage collecting, you'd find a way to fuck even that up, you low IQ ape

>>383560993
>
You can't dislike the PS1 and like the N64/Saturn without being a fanboy, they all aged equaly bad, but the PS1 had the most diverse library.
LOL. You seriously couldn't sound like more of a pompous faggot. "It is impossible to not like the PS1... because I'm gay and I say so". PS1 didn't have fuck all. It had diversity like my shit last night had corn and peas in it. It was terrible console with terrible games.

>>383560656
except the only challenge in banjo's platforming is a shitty camera

>>383560969
>FFTA is good meme
End yourself

Nintendo fans are still mad Sony won.

>>383561121
Lol... so it appears that you are actually as retarded as you seem. Let's analyze you original reply.

>You don't run in a straight line unfortunately, instead you wander around until you run into something resembling the simplest challenge in Crash
My original response stated that, in Crash, you run in a straight line the entire time. The response of yours indicates that you are talking about Crash when you say "You don't run in a straight line unfortunately". You then say "Instead you wander around until you run into something resembling the simplest challenge in Crash". If you aren't talking about Crash, you are an actual mentally retarded individual because everything you'd said up to this point references Crash and not a single thing to do with Banjo. Then, you say...

>then you clear it to get some shitty fucking collectable item and keep wandering around the empty "expansive" world but it's ok cause you have some notes to pick up right?
If you were actually making a criticism of Banjo, that's fine, except nothing about your previous statements references or even alludes to Banjo. You first defend Crash by saying "you don't run in a straight line", but then strangely say "unfortunately", as if you would prefer to be running in a straight line... which, uh... you do.

It seems like you meant to critifize Banjo but your literal nigger-level writing skills blocked your path, so now you're trying to act like everyone except you is retarded and that you actually spoke correctly when, in reality, you sound like a fucking idiot. To be fair, though, I'm ashamed of myself that i even took the time to explain the basics of grammar to you.

>>383561187
>except the only challenge in banjo's platforming is a shitty camera
I guess that's more challenge than Crash, since it's easy as fuck and doesn't even have a rotatable camera because the entire game is a straight line.

>>383561512
>The response of yours indicates that you are talking about Crash when you say "You don't run in a straight line unfortunately"
Absolutely no reason to assume this, especially considering the fact that the linear nature of the game is the appeal as I've already stated multiple times. Not wasting my time replying to the rest of your nonsensical rambling, fuckin numbskull lol

>>383561573
>easy as fuck
banjo is much easier, as i said the challenge comes from the camera and the abortion of a controller you have to use

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Whats going on with all these PS1 hate threads? Its a 21 year old console

>>383561779
This board is Nintendo territory, well more like the website is.

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>>383561675
>Absolutely no reason to assume this
Uh, yeah, actually there is a reason to "assume" this, because you were literally talking about crash you fucking retard.

>especially considering the fact that the linear nature of the game is the appeal as I've already stated multiple times
That... has nothing to do with my criticism of your nigger-level writing abilities. Deflect much.

>Not wasting my time replying to the rest of your nonsensical rambling, fuckin numbskull lol
This sounds like the kind of insult that a 69 year old man would use.

>>383561779
>Its a 21 year old console
It's older than the people making those stupid threads.

>>383562026
Nope. I was 14 when I bought a PS1 in 1996. It's much easier to rationalize than to come to grips with the fact that the console sucked, isn't it anon?

>>383556753
It kicked (((Nintendo))) down and Sega out, for that alone I love it.

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>>383561573
>Banjo is challenging

>>383562095
21 years later and you haven't grown a day.

>>383562017
Are you pretending to be retarded now? I honestly can't believe someone can be this fucking stupid. Let me walk you through this real quick
>You don't just run in a straight path and collect all of those items
This is what you said about Banjo, and what I was replying to. I used almost this exact same statement and added "unfortunately" to convey the fact that I think Crash' linear design is the better of the two. After that I did nothing but talk about Banjo. If you still don't understand this you might want to get a caretaker you drooling oafish potato man

>>383561779
Kids can't accept Nintendo was the EA of the 90's and that the third parties had a good reason to jump boat. I mean, just look what they fucking did to Argonaut.

>>383556753
you aren't even trying to troll
you just posted what you know is 100% wrong as fact

its not bait that way. to properly bait, learn how to put it on the fucking hook first. all you managed to do is stab your hand with the hook, dripping blood into pissed off shark infested waters

>>383562426
>Are you pretending to be retarded now? I honestly can't believe someone can be this fucking stupid. Let me walk you through this real quick
LOL! I knew it. I knew you were too much of a fucking faggot to walk away even after you said you said you "weren't wasting your time" anymore. What a fucking tool.

You can't walk me through anything anon. You have the grammatical abilities of an autistic baboon.

I said, "unlike Trash Bandicoot where you LITERALLY run in a straight line", to which you replied, "You don't run in a straight line unfortunately, instead you wander around until you run into something resembling the simplest challenge in Crash". Either you are a full-on retard or you need to learn how to use commas and periods because you are fucking stupid as shit. Stop embarassing yourself. You misundstood a basic reply and now you're playing damage control. What a fucking faggot.

Was playing some Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on my PS1 recently.
>Running through the canyon at night
>Suddenly the race goes in a cave with a mother fucking Aztec temple inside.
Kinda miss these games that were neither cartoony kart games but not too realistic with its stages either.

>Nintebabbies still sore about getting the L over 20 years ago

Jesus fuck, who fucking cares enough to type essays worth of content to "prove" that "my console was the best and yours sucked"

>>383562634
>y-you know what you said is wrong! PS1 was the best! t-the best, you hear me? you can't possibly argue against it! y-you can't!
I thank Jesus every night that I'm not as gay as you.

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>>383562920
>Jesus fuck, who fucking cares enough to type essays worth of content to "prove" that "my console was the best and yours sucked"
>"essays worth"
>less than a normal paragraph
It honestly scares me how retarded the average Sony fan is, and how poor their reading abilities are no less.

>>383562586
oh, you also watch LarryBundyJr?

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>OP will defend this

>>383562760
The fact that I talked about Banjo exclusively after that didn't clue you in as to which one of the two statements I was referencing? You really have a child's brain, merely seeing "Crash" in a sentence strips you of the ability to see any context. When'd I say I was walking away, I merely don't want to bother replying to a wall of text built from a false premise. Mocking a half wit is always a treat on the other hand

>>383562851
>haha Sony won becasue it was the only second-hand console my momy could afford and I grew up with Crash Team Racing and Spyro, now I'll talk like a nigger haha dude weed lmao haha

>>383563030
I'm talking about everything you and everyone else posted in total, dumbass

>>383563128
>The fact that I talked about Banjo exclusively after that didn't clue you in as to which one of the two statements I was referencing?
>didn't even mention Banjo
>Literally stated "Crash" in the first sentence
>LOL DUDE YOU HAVE A CHILD'S BRAIN BECAUSE I'M TOO RETARDED TO WRITE CORRECTLY
The world would be a better place if your mother had swallowed you and pooped you out into a public toilet.

>>383557016
Spyro is a really odd case.
There are games I think you could remaster, Crash and Banjo, for example, don't seem too hard.
There are games I think you can't because the design was too limited. Imagine remaking Mario 64 in modern technology with levels like wet dry world.
Then there is Spyro, which is not impossible to remake, but I cannot see it possibly not ending in a trainwreck considering how much the very aesthetic is based on shitty polygons.

>>383562851
>hurrr my console was more expensive so therefore better
the 3DO was also a smashing success wasn't it?

>>383563179
Nice damage control faggot. Too bad even a black 6 year old should be able to read a thread's worth of content without getting overwhelmed. Don't forget to breath retard.

>>383563060
No, but I am glad some eceleb has broken the circlejerk. That shit is public knowledge though, my lad. (Unless we are talking about some other shit.)

>>383557016
Final Fantasy 9 aged p well

why can't op stop being so gay?

>>383562851
Just you wait anon, the phonystation will have sales like the Lynx's

>>383563090
>haha triple-handle controller haha
>PS1 didn't even have analog for the first two years of its life and 99% of the few games that even supported it still forced you to use shoulder buttons to rotate the camera because they had to remain compatible with the legacy controller
Sub-autism levels of intelligence right here.

>>383563152
Second-hand consoles wouldn't have counted towards the sales number anon.

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This is Nu-Nintendo
This is what nintendo became after Sony beat their ass for 2 generations

>>383563317
So you're not only inable to follow a conversation but also can't even read the full post before deciding its meaning? Fuck's sake mate I don't even want to insult you at this point, it's genuinely worrying

>>383563751
>Second-hand consoles wouldn't have counted towards the sales number anon.
You misunderstand, I'm not talking about sales numbers, I'm just talking about the fact that your cumdumpster mother purchased you a shit-tier used console because it was cheap.

However, if you want to talk about sales numbers, tell me more about how McDonald's has the best burger.

>>383563776
What I find most hilarious is how the PSP - DS fight was the inverse of PS1 - N64, it even has the same "You might have a far larger library, but it is all shoverlware!" argument.

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>>383563805
>So you're not only inable to follow a conversation but also can't even read the full post before deciding its meaning? Fuck's sake mate I don't even want to insult you at this point, it's genuinely worrying
So... basically, you have terrible grammatical skills, wrote some retarded shit and are now trying to deflect it back on the opposing party so you don't look like a retard. Okay, cool dude. Gotcha'.

I wonder how many more replies it will take for you to honor that "I'm too good to respond to you again" bullshit? Fucking lmao, every time. What a dyke.

>>383563978
Since when has there ever been a PSP vs DS argument? DS raped PSP in both quality and quantiy, that isn't even a fucking conterest. The only thing PSP had on DS was homebrew and graphics. I've never heard a single person try to argue for the PSP's actual games. The fuck?

Idiots like OP clearly haven't played many PS1 games. I like N64 and PS1 but you can't say PS1 was shit without looking like a child. This fucking console had everything, and even if we condense it down to the top 5 games on each system it would be a close race.

One last thing though, Spyro is definitely better than Banjo Kazooie. Both are great games though.

>>383564075
>you only use two handles for almost every game except FPS shooters where you can just switch and use d-pad for movement and analog for aiming
>LOL BRO YOU NEED 3 HANDS
Imagine being this much of a retarded faggot.

>>383563881
hurr my console costs more so it has to be so much better
If that's the case the 3DO was the best console on the market

>>383564018
Aye if that makes you feel better for somehow managing to misunderstand a post that was as clearly about Banjo as possible without actually mentioning the name
>that "I'm too good to respond to you again" bullshit
Showing that amazing reading comprehension yet again, bravo

>>383563881
Nah anon, after playing on my dad's SNES for a while, they took me to the store so I could play the games and see what I wanted. One had crash, a car game, a fighting game and a plane game. The other had Mario stuff.

And eh, while I missed some nice games, I don't regret it, I got a DS on release with the Mario 64 remake, and while I understand the historical importance of that game, it really loses me considering not all levels keep the aesthetic of the Castle and the first few levels.

>>383564253
Imagine having a valid argument

>>383564204
>Idiots like OP clearly haven't played many PS1 games.
Wrong faggot. I have played: every RE game, every FF game, Chrono Trigger, Legend of Mana, Alundra, Alundra 2, both Medievil games, all Dragon Quest games, all Wild Warms games, all Megaman Legends games, and more. And guess what? They are all vastly inferior to the games available on competing consoles of the era.

>I like N64 and PS1 but you can't say PS1 was shit without looking like a child.
Coming from an autist that probably thinks JRPGs are the epitome of game design, that doesn't mean much.

>This fucking console had everything
Except good graphics and good games, yes.

>One last thing though, Spyro is definitely better than Banjo Kazooie. Both are great games though.
Andddd you just went full retard.

If OP is not lying, all his hate toward his console seems to come from the fact his mom was a cheap slut who could not afford anything but a second-hand psx.

>>383556753
You sir. You fucking get it so goddamn right. Everythings feels so fucking 6/10 in the console itself

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>>383564358
>Aye if that makes you feel better for somehow managing to misunderstand a post that was as clearly about Banjo as possible without actually mentioning the name
I didn't misunderstand, I'm simply pointing out that your grammar was completely retarded and didn't reflect what you were actually trying to say.

>Showing that amazing reading comprehension yet again, bravo
>Not wasting my time replying to the rest of your nonsensical rambling, fuckin numbskull lol
>I'm not wasting my time replying to the rest of your post, but I'll waste my time replying to every other single reply you make
Lol I cannot believe people as retarded as you exist.

>>383564443
Let us hear you talking about the other system's masterpieces them.

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>>383564443
>better graphics
sorry to burst your bubble fella but when you take your rose colored glasses off you'll realize they were only a tad bit better
I'm not sure why im bothering because you're just gonna have another meltdown

The only people who don't "understand" old games are those who weren't old enough to play them when they came out.

>>383564819
PS is clearly emulated.

>>383564443
So you haven't played much at all then. Where's Megaman X? Castlevania? Tenchu? CTR? Wipeout? MGS? Ridge Racer? Shmups? Where are all the action games in general?

>>383564716
Okay. Well, let's see... Super Mario 64 was groundbreaking and set the stage for every single 3D game, platformer or otherwise, that came after it. Ocarina of Time did the same, but had a greater impact on the adventure genre and storytelling within games. Majora's Mask was a refinement of the formula in many ways, and stands as one of the greatest adventure games ever made.

Banjo-Kazooie refined the SM64 formula, Mario kart 64 made kart racers popular and made Mario Kart a household name, Super Smash Bros. became one of the greatest competitive series in gaming history, Goldeneye and Perect Dark influenced every single cnsole shooter that came after... the list goes on.

The N64 didn't sell as many units as the PS1, but it sure left a big old mushroom stamp on the industry.

>>383564710
Because your entire post was based on a dumb assumption as I've already said, there was literally no point replying to any of it besides that assumption. Thick tit lol

>>383564916
>list dozens of games
>says "and more"
>SO YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED MUCH AT ALL THEN
Yes, you are autistc.

>>383564443

>I have played: every RE game, every FF game, Chrono Trigger, Legend of Mana, Alundra, Alundra 2, both Medievil games, all Dragon Quest games, all Wild Warms games, all Megaman Legends games, and more. And guess what? They are all vastly inferior to the games available on competing consoles of the era.
Chrono Trigger is an SNES game (and the PS1 version sucks). RE2 and MML1 are on N64.

>Coming from an autist that probably thinks JRPGs are the epitome of game design, that doesn't mean much.
Says the fucking retard playing all the JRPGs when he doesn't even like the genre.

>Except good graphics and good games, yes.
PS1 has better graphics than the N64. N64 has antiialiasing, a z-buffer, but fuckall for texture quality.

>Andddd you just went full retard.
Banjo over Spyro is an easy way to tell someone hasn't played Spyro.

>>383564819
Lol get a load of this retard. First off, I'm not sure what's wrong with your eyes, but the N64 version clearly looks better. It's smoother and doesn't have the pixely grain that the PS1 verson has, which is probably emulated anyway.

That's the besides the point though. Ports don't mean shit. There is not a single game on PS1 that compete with the likes of Majora's Mask, Perfect Dark, or even Yoshi's Story. Shit, the PS1 would implode if it tried running Super Mario 64. You are retarded. The N64 is a vastly more powerful machine and there is no arguing about it.

>>383565164
Smoother doesn't mean better, it blurs all the shading and makes the textures look flat.

>>383565164
Vita is superior to the 3DS hardware wise too, the later has issue running PS2 games. Doesn't mean you should get a fucking Vita.

>>383565164
>>383565164
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>>383565056
>Chrono Trigger is an SNES game (and the PS1 version sucks). RE2 and MML1 are on N64.
That's 3 multiplatform games out of my entire list, all but one which were definitively the best on PS1, what exactly is your autistc point?

>Says the fucking retard playing all the JRPGs when he doesn't even like the genre.
I don't like the genre. I gave each of those games a try and they disappointed me each time. Why do you think I dislike them?

>PS1 has better graphics than the N64. N64 has antiialiasing, a z-buffer, but fuckall for texture quality
Hahaha good one faggot. The PS1 looks like fucking shit. It can't even render 3D graphics without having a seizure. Not one single game on PS1 even approaches the graphical fidelity of Majora's Mask. You are an absolute retard if you seriously believe this.

>Banjo over Spyro is an easy way to tell someone hasn't played Spyro.
In your case, an easy way to tell someone who hasn't play Banjo. Spyro's tiny ass worlds and limited gameplay mechanics are shit-tier. How can you be this delusional? I guarantee you haven't even played Banjo.

>>383565164
Just a quick question, did you change team when the Nintendo consoles became the weaker hardware?

>>383556753
You must be obsessed with Sony or something you create the same autistic thread idolizing the PS1 every day. Just admit that you love it. Thanks for talking about the only relevant system from that generation.

>>383565323
>Smoother doesn't mean better, it blurs all the shading and makes the textures look flat.
In this case it does, actually. The PS1 version looks like shit, as do all PS1 games that aren't 2D. It doesn't blur "shading" you retard, and it doesn't make textures look fucking flat. I have no idea what you're smoking. All it does is make tetures look like they are comprised of fucking tiny jagged squares. Jesus Christ you faggots are stupid.

As someone who owned all 5th generation systems.

PS1>Saturn>N64.

This is objective fact.

The 5th generation was horrible. Only a few games really stand out. You could take the worst game from the 6th gen and it would play better than garbage like Castlevania 64 and Cybermorph. I just said that: Sonic Heroes and Die Hard Vendetta are playable.

>>383556753
Honestly, it's mostly because of sony drones. They only had one console as a kid and they're completely fanatic. I've heard some of them say Sony "saved the gaming world" and all kinds of crazy shit. Manchildren are just pathetic, man

PS1 is still being talked about to this day. No one remembers the N64.

The PS1 sold the most for a reason. It was the best system. The N64 flopped so hard Nintendo hasn't recovered from it.

>>383557016
>I only played Spyro and a handful of N64 titles
Alright

>>383565494
The filtering is awful, though. It makes the shading less clearly defined with how blurry it is. All the blocks blend together, they look like something you'd see through the perspective of someone with bad eyesight. PS1 had its flaws, but atleast it has crisp, detailed textures.

>>383565385

Find me a screenshot of Majora's Mask that has better "graphical fidelity" than any jungle level from Crash 1. N64 can do bigger environments but PS1 shits on it when it comes to detail.

Banjo is the best Mario 64 clone that gen but it's bogged down with collectathon filler. Entering a new world in Banjo is like flipping a new page on your grocery list. Spyro's worlds have a flow to them while still being open and free to explore.

>>383565693
True enough, the quality dip was pretty terrible as devs were trying to figure out how to work with 3D. There are some good 2D games on the systems however. Racing games age fairly gracefully too.

>complaining about the ps1 now
>no, believe me. i totally bought and played it back then
>look at all these facts that I googled up right now which proves how shit it is
Why would anyone go through the effort of lying like this?

The PS1 had Final Fantasy VII one of the best RPGs of all time. The N64 had Quest 64. Those two games are indicative of the general quality of the two consoles.

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>>383565385
Spyro 1 has what, 30 levels? Versus, how many Banjo has, 10? Spyro has smaller levels, can't deny, but I do not think it is enough for you to push this narrative.

Nevertheless, I am not that anon, but I do love both games, they use their systems nicely and navigated around limitations. I loved how Banjo used each of a level, and I loved how Spyro was a more sparse game. I even dislike Spyro 2 and 3 because of that, since they did follow Banjo's lead and added NPCs and minigames, while what I loved was the more solitary running around and gliding from the first one.

>>383565704
All big YouTubers are 64 ubermensch.

All I remember is being a 6-year-old kid and thinking the PS1 had worse graphics and that discs were worse than cartridges because of how unreliable they were. Then again, I was 6 and pretty much a nintendo fanboy. I still feel like I was partly right, though.

>>383565704
Lol, there's like 1000000000 super mario 64 threads in here. Even more discussion than any ps1 shitty pixelated mess.

>>383566846
PS1 disks were pretty shit, a harsh wind could scratch them.

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PS1 hardware was shit, but the games are tight. Also, you can fix most of the hardware deficiencies with emulation.

>>383566846
Well nintendo 64 have the advantage of not dying as easy like the ps1. which is really shitty when it comes to build
My n64 still works but most of my friends PS1 died long ago

>>383567893
Can emulators do internal resolution boosts?

>>383568015
That's pretty much the standard way of improving graphics for 3D consoles, but PS1 emulators are also able to improve texture filtering, texture mapping and vertex precision.

>>383568107
Why doesn't Xbone back comp do this to 360 games?

>>383568172
The console isn't powerful enough.

>>383568172
Not for the players

I get that this is bait... But I sort of agree with some of it. I don't give a fuck about most of what he's babbling about but the PS1 sucks. I only had Nintendo stuff as a kid,(NES/GB/SNES) I got the PS1 about 2 years into launch and it was shit then and aged worse now. Ive been pretty much Sony only consoles since, it's not a console war fag thing, I just think it's a shitty machine.

Nothing since the 4th gen has actually aged poorly. Either your tastes changed or it was never good to begin with.

>>383568364
>>383568442
>aged
Kill yourself

>>383568470
I don't really buy into the whole "video games age" thing either, but I do think the 4th gen is where games really stopped being held back by their hardware as much.

Tell me this, if I want to play action games, what is the PS1 really offering? It's the genre that the console really lacks in. All of its action games are gun games for the guncon, and that tells you a lot.

>>383568618
Shmups. It has some solid exclusives like Gradius Gaiden, R-Type Delta and Eunhander. There are also a lot of decent ports even though the Saturn is better for that. 5th gen was lacking in action games in general. All of the good stuff was on the arcades.

>>383556753
I believe the PS1 had a lot more gems. But 3d gaming on consoles was dogshit at the time.

I had a PS1, but I use to buy gaming mags to jerk off to videocard specs I couldn't afford in being like 13.

>>383568470
Video games age my man, just like everything else we consume. I get that you were born in 2003 so it's hella cool to play old gamez. PS1 games look ugly as fuck in a way that NES and Genesis/SNES games don't. Look at something like the Mortal Kombat series and how the most absolute ugliest shit game was 4. Aged badly (just like you will in another 15 years)

>>383568442
4th gen aged better than 5th gen.

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>>383569740
Well my man, I grew up playing Atari
And I can assure you that games dont age, the only thing that seems to age is your brain that is starting to rot already
Here my old pal that still work, unlike my 2600
Kill yourself kid

>>383557016

Nights into Dreams and Virtua Fighter 2 for Saturn.

i can still find good games to play on the ps1 that i've never tried or even heard of before

meanwhile ps3 and ps4 have like 5 genuinely worthwhile exclusives between them

>>383571889
Hardware ages, anon. Have you installed your Tim Worthington RGB boards? You don't want to be stuck without them.

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>>383572335
Why are you talking about hardware?
>modifying your consoles

>>383572541
The days of TVs that will be compatible with that type of connector are limited. Nothing lasts forever. Those consoles won't last 50 years, they'll be dust by then.

>>383556753
So you're saying that you didn't grow up with it, and because of that, you don't like it.

What a surprise. It was 3D's infancy. Were you expecting it to look amazing?

>>383565702
>Sony "saved the gaming world"

More accurate than that "Nintendo saved videogames from the global crash" shit

>>383566547
>while what I loved was the more solitary running around and gliding from the first one.

Same, having NPCs is cool and all when you're a kid, but now only the first one still holds infinite replay value.

>>383556753
your thread sucked last week and it's sucking now

>>383559991
You don't say.

>>383561147
That isn't what the dude said. Practice your reading comprehension.

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Man. This was the most ridiculous thread I've seen possibly ever. Bunch of retards yelling with their dicks out.

In any case, glad I read. Good laughs were had.

Every time he makes this kind of thread the N64 gets BTFO over and over so why does he do it?

>>383566108
>N64 can do bigger environments but PS1 shits on it when it comes to detail.
I kind of think this has more to do with the fact that PS1 has a series of corridor platformers where draw distance is deliberately limited so you can have all of the detail right up front vs a series of open-world games that have to display miles of terrain so the detail has to be spread out.

Also if you read the making of Crash Bandicoot (which is quite interesting by the way) they designed the engine where Naughty Dog pre-rendered visibility/depth data for every scene on their studio workstations, copied it onto the CD, and the PS1 just loads this data for every frame as Crash walks through each level. This precalculation takes a big load off the PS1 console which enabled it to display prettier graphics. The downside of this technique is the user cannot EVER have control of the camera, which is fine for a corridor game but won't work for anything else.

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>>383577389
He wants PS1 recs but he is too shy to ask it directly

>>383557939
>muh gay elf garbage
I had Metal Gear Solid, get your poz ass out of here

>>383578076
>MGS is a good game
Love this meme

>>383578227
>Zelda is a good series

Even bigger meme considering that women love it so much

>>383556753
Ps1 ports were shit, n64 sold less but the best games it had were actually the fucking bestest.

>>383577682
>This precalculation takes a big load off the PS1 console which enabled it to display prettier graphics

That's not what it does though, you said yourself it only aided in sorting what gets drawn first and last, something the PS1 can't do on its own unless through clever tricks, or just software emulation (I wonder if any game actually used this).

Graphics would have still looked good, but messy.

>>383556753

the funniest part is that the timeless classic of the playstation were literally *also on PC, just like today, really makes you think

>>383578436
Exactly, the Crash games don't have to waste CPU time with a primitive painter's algorithm and got much better results (e.g. elimination of Z-fighting) because of precomputing occlusion. That means more time's available for things like T&L

>>383577865
Funny how even Game Sack (a nintenbro and a segadrone) both agreed that the PS1 was the superior console that generation.

>>383578436
>you said yourself it only aided in sorting what gets drawn first and last
No, it's far more useful than that. It means that there's absolutely no overdraw (in a typical 3D scene the pixels for something may be drawn but then drawn over by something else later making the original drawn pixels a waste of time) and it also means that clipping is free and perfect (i.e. nothing outside of the view frustum is drawn).

>something the PS1 can't do on its own unless through clever tricks
PS1's GTE (vector unit) can do hardware accelerated depth sorting, but it's rather crude (per polygon or per mesh rather than per-pixel like a real z-buffer).

>Graphics would have still looked good, but messy.
It's not just about visual quality, but speed. Without overdraw, drawing outside of view, or the console having to calculate/sort depth, it's a huge performance boost compared to other PS1 games.

>>383579034
>PS1's GTE (vector unit) can do hardware accelerated depth sorting, but it's rather crude (per polygon or per mesh rather than per-pixel like a real z-buffer).
Ah, so that explains the whole-polygon "popping" effect similar to Z-fighting that models on the PS1 experience.

>>383579459
Yes. Instead of individual pixels fighting, usually the entire mesh fights and gets drawn in the wrong order in front/behind something

I believe Crash himself is still being depth sorted by GTE itself, which is why there are a few places in the game where Crash will be drawn over something he should be standing behind, producing some really fucked up depth perception

>>383556753
If you don't like the PS1's library I fail to see why you even like videogames

>>383579715
Well, everything that isn't static scenery obviously needs to have occlusion calculated at runtime. I can't recall ever seeing that fuck up in a Crash game though.

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>this underage cumstain of an OP's thread is still active hours later
you'd think getting BTFO a hundred times over would be enough encouragement to erase your presence from this board

PSX had motherfucking Tekken.

>>383574438
But they did. That's history.

>>383579746
The PS1's library was awful if you don't like JRPGs. In terms of must-play games, there was Metal Gear Solid and Symphony of the Night only. The N64 had an awful library too but I can think of at least 5 must-play titles for that.

>>383581716
N64 easily had the best library of that generation. For me it was Nintendo + PC even back then so not much has changed.

>>383581716
> In terms of must-play games, there was Metal Gear Solid
fucking lol
Play a real video game faggot

>>383557801

>nintenbros still try to prop up the meme that their 6 games from the generation matter

ps1 had the best games in most genres tho and it had plenty of top titles to boot from.

Most of 5th gen plays like garbage, especially anything that relies on pre-rendered 3D backgrounds.

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>>383581467
This is a PSX.

Why don't people understand the difference between the PS1 and a PSX? A PSX is a DVR.

>>383582176
Because the PS1's development name was the PSX and this is referenced in various articles and the game binaries themselves.

>>383582176
>xboxonex, wiiu, pspvita
dunno man seems companies make it that way

>>383582304
Yes, that was the development name, but not the final name. The PSX was only released in Japan.

>>383582176
says ps2 on the console tho

>>383582385
Also says PSX on the top. No idea why Sony decided to be weird like that, but whatever.

>>383556753
Wasn't the PS1 the very first 32 bit console?

>>383582609
The 3DO was earlier.

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Which forgotten titles on the PS1 would you like to see revamped?

pic related.

>>383556753
>it's another ''Sony hate thread reaches 400+ replies and mods openly don't give a fuck while banning everything even slightly anti-shitendo'' episode
Worst board.

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>>383556753
t.pretendo 69

>>383558789
>consumers lost
>despite literally voting with their wallet

Sounds like you don't have any faith in consumers at all faggot. You are literally advocating the forced success of one company over another despite what consumers objectivley chose.

>>383563152
>second hand console

How would that have contributed to the sales it made? Holy shit kid you are so mad

>>383563353
No, but the PlayStation literally was.

>>383563881
>However, if you want to talk about sales numbers, tell me more about how McDonald's has the best burger.

/v/ is literally now discarding the only objective indicators we have for success in a subjective medium and implying the worse a console did, the better it in fact was. Jesus fuck.

>>383566614
>normies ruined the industry by buying Sony
>BTW YOUTBERS LOVE THE N64! XD

So which is it anon?

>>383567747
>meme half a press threads

Fantastic legacy anon.

>>383578227
>ZELDA! US GAMURS AMARITE XD

You have to be kidding about calling anyone else meme shit anon.

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>>383581467
This

>>383556753
This thread again? Obligatory "it's good for music"

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>>383581716
>The PS1's library was awful if you don't like JRPGs

I didn't as a kid in the 90's. I wanted to play
>Crash bandicoot
>Time Crisis
>Resident evil 1-3
>Spyro
>MGS
>FUGGIN TEKKEN
>Street Fighter
>Rayman
>Abe's odysee
>medievil

And many more. My friend and his brother had an N64 and i enjoyed:
>SM64
>Mischief makers

That was it. N64 didn't have ANY of the cool things i wanted to play except for getting RE2 nearly 3 YEARS later.

>>383557016
>this game aged well
>this game aged poorly

Games don't age, faggot. You do. Your perception and expectations change as the medium does as a whole. That doesn't change the game that's already been released, though. You're just a spoiled brat who got these old games hyped up for you by e-celebs and expected the holy grail of gaming.

>>383556753
Play Oddworld