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Name a more loyal woman in any video game than Tifa. This girl

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Name a more loyal woman in any video game than Tifa.

This girl stayed by Cloud's side through SO much shit and loves him so much. Tifa is the ultimate sweetheart in gaming and would make the best wife in the world.
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>>383548584
She barely even knew Cloud.
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FF7 is fucking trash, play a real game
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>>383548584
I liked Tifa more, but in real life I think I would get along better with Aerith
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Will this make it into the remake?
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Freya Crescent.
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>>383548584
Aeris, she fucking died for the earth, Tifa was used goods that needed purpose in life so she tagged along.
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So did Tifa put out in the end?
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who gives a fuck about any of that shit?

post some fucking tifa
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>>383548584
>loyal
>fooled around with boys in her teenager years, leaving Cloud a loner
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>>383550435
They fugged on the grassy hill at the end of disc 2. Other party was kind enough to give them some time alone.
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>>383550602
You have no proof of that, you filthy liar.
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>>383550435
Yes, havent you played the game?
It was outdoors too with Cloud.
Also everyone knew they fucked the next day.
Watch them take i out or turn it into some stupid Japanese misunderstanding in the remake.
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>>383550625
Does the same thing happen with Yuffie if you date her in the Golden Saucer?
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>>383550670
But this is what happened, when Cloud was a weird loner like most powerful people are she ignored him, but once he became a central player in something grand she suddenly became very interested in him.
Cloud knows Tifa is 2nd rate, that's why he can't get over Aeris
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>>383548584
she's also got some big big big big big big big BIG yabbos you can bury your face between and go brrhrhghrrhghrhrhghrhghghrhhghgh
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>Tifa
Consistently good

>Aeris
Strong moments at the start of the game

>Yuffie
Almost completely worthless outside of Wutai
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>>383550820
Cloud is asexual and probably autistic.
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>>383550820
>But that is what happened
Hello where are the proofs? :DDDD
>spergy MGTOW projection
Wew lad, and I thought the FF7 fandom was autistic.
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>>383550820
>only person who is nice to Cloud when he's young
>actually there the night before he leaves for Midgar
>spends all her teenage years training in martial arts with her teacher so had no time to get fucked by other men
>all the time she actually did confirm she thought about Cloud a lot and wanted to see him again
Tifa is anything but 2nd rate. She is pure and faithful.

She's like that one Japanese meme image with the girl who dresses slutty on the outside but is actually pure and sweet.
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>>383551208
>only person who is nice to Cloud when he's young

You sure, it was just a regular friendship. And Cloud had a crush on her and wanted to impress her so he promised to become a SOLDIER.
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>>383548584
She helped him out the most when he turned into a veggie so i'm inclined to agree
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>>383551208
>purityfags
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>>383548584
She's a wonderful girl and Cloud is very lucky to be with her.
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Tifa is darling.

I wonder if the option for Cloud to look at the underwear in her bedroom will be in the remake. You wouldn't, would you?
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>>383551647
>Vincent lamenting that Hojo fucked the woman he loved
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>>383551202
>EU Reddit meme bear
>wee lad
>proofs
>:D
>mgtow
If you're going to try to post on an America site you could try talking like a normal person instead of the obvious tourist you are.
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>>383552276
KEK nice deflection, you illiterate faggot.
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>>383550670
it's canon in the game's flashbacks
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:)
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Tifa and Aeristh combined would be the perfect woman.
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>>383552847
zombie gf?
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>>383550820
I agree to the first half of your statement specifically the weird loner part, but on the second half I can't help but think you're patently wrong, as she was the one to involve him in her terrorist organization.
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>>383552847
>combining a pure maiden with a slutty STD ridden flower girl
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>>383552410
Hello my 4chan-with-training-wheels 3rd world friend. On an anonymous image board not evenbody who replies to you is one person. Now I'd tell you to stop trying so hard but you're not even trying at all, as expected of an ESL. You irrelevant tourists are just embarrassing.
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>>383552940
Ghost gf
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if you want purity, then i guess yuffie would be the serious contender here?
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>>383548584
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>>383548584
>ignored Cloud as a teenager, hung out with other guys as the only teenage girl in her village
>decade passes
>she's single, living in the slums, working a shitty bar
>fast approaching 30
>sees Cloud again and SUDDENLY wants to catch up with him

Hahaha yeah ok
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>>383553340
>criminal
>pure
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>>383553340
cloud is the purest
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>>383553167
>not wanting a hot girl with a sexy personality who is also pure, sweet and loyal
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>>383553409
t. Aeris

You sure got over Zack quickly and suddenly want to fuck Cloud, huh slut?
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You know I said it before and Ill say it again. It's fine to like Tits Lockhart but at least have the decency to be honest about it. All of you faggots always go through mental gymnastics and basically reinvent the character.

She's stupid and constantly makes bad decisions

She never liked Cloud to long after they separated instead hanging out the village Chads

She lies to him the whole game and makes his dementia worse because she's too emotionally weal to face reality.

Loyal? Don't make me laugh. She's an absolutely wretched human.
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>>383553409
>ignored Cloud as a teenager
wut. remember this scene dumbass?
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>>383553819

wow one seen where she barely pays attention to him after calling her out.

Remember the whole fucking mental restoration she hung out with the three other guys and he followed along like a sad puppy and got slapped when their retarded asses got hurt
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>>383553930
>that one scene doesn't count because it doesn't fit my roastie narrative!
>THIS scene however...
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>>383553686
nice mental gymnastics
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>>383553686
>She's an absolutely wretched human.

I wouldn't go that far. She stayed with him when it counted, and helped saved the fucking world. A wretched human wouldn't have done shit to stop Sephiroth.
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>>383548584
I like Team 4 Star's Tifa.
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Daily reminder that if the remake Tifa is lacking is any way, that shit is fucking DROPPED.
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>>383548584
Jesse was better.
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>>383552276
Great way to not address a single point he raised! You sure look intelligent and desirable as a mate right now!
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>>383553484
>implying
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>>383553686
>calls others out on mental gymnastics
>"she's an absolutely wretched human"
Good post, got me to reply.
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>>383554751
>!
Kill yourself.
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>>383553415
Yes.
She doesn't put out to get what she wants, she just steals it.
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>>383554715
>almost 0 character development
>very little backstory
>literally a "girl is interested in you and then dies to get you emotionally invested in the game" trope

fuck off pleb
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>>383554715
She's in a better place with a better husbando now.
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>>383550327
This.
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>>383554815
>.
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>tifafags

Yeah nobody cares about her actual character, she's just the popular fapbait girl who will NEVER EVER get her own game. Aeris still had a larger effect on cloud than Tifa.
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>>383550851
Fuck you i squemmeled
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>>383553363
Didn't Aeris actually have tits as big as Tifa, if not a bit bigger, and they were just hidden under her jacket?
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Nothing wrong with a girl wanting a guy making something of himself. Yet you guys complain about "waifubait" all the time.
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>>383552671
Takeru with the garbage taste. At least she has AF.
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>>383550801
No, you can only implied fug Tifa.
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What a whore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAPB9ipMaFI
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She was the least worst character in the game, second only to Barret. Everyone else who joins your party made me want to strangle every single one of them.

>kill yuffie for stealing my materia
>kill Reeve aka Cait Sith for taking Marlene hostage, no matter how much he tried to make up for it, he only cared about money in the end
>kill Cid for being a retard who only wanted to go to space, not caring if anyone else got killed in the process
>kill Vincent for being a gay angsty edgelord
>smack Red XIII for being useless

Seriously, I feel like I'm watching apoorly made episode of Naruto whenever I see a playthrough of this game.
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>>383555257
Aeris was the hips to Tifa's tits, midriff was Barret's domain
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>>383555257
No. Maybe in game, but that was due to low poly I'd assume, look at the original concept art or Advent Children you can see Tifa has a significantly larger chest
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>>383553819
they looked like kids there, and acted like kids too
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>>383555720
Yeah, I don't trust any of the newer stuff for character models, seeing as they knock another cup size off of Tifa each time.
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>>383555720
You're a retard just watch any cutscene in the original scene with Tifa and she has jellow physic boobs. Specifically the motorcycle escape.
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>>383554686
She needs to jiggle and sweat for the remake to be acceptable.
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>>383555615
>he watches "playthroughs"

opinion discarded
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>>383555102
Still better than Yuna
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>>383555945
>they knock another cup size off of Tifa each time
Any anons got the screengrab where turbo-autism proves her tits actually get bigger?
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>>383555615
To be fair, you were only taking the dog home for like, the first third of the game, then by the time he joined you for realsies, what else could he hope to do for you without hands?
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>>383556030
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tifa was better when she was western

the asian tifa from AC was an abomination
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>>383556237
Why is Cloud so gay?
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>>383554463
>and helped saved the fucking world.
only cause she's one of the assholes who live on that world
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tits
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Will Honeybee Inn be in the first part of the remake?
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>>383556458
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>>383556691
If it isn't, then it's been cut.
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AC Tifa is so underrated.
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>>383555321
He had to pick that twizzler roach to save everybody so he gets a pass on picking sumika over meiya. The true loyal girl in mublub is yuuko though.
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>>383556458
>asian tifa from AC was an abomination
Speak for yourself.
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>>383556926
disgusting
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>>383557137
only a cuck would hide those perfect tits behind a shitty leather jacket
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>>383555365
>Tifa tries to tell him about Zack during their date
>Everyone is led to believe it was going to be a love confession

Out of all the characters, Tifa is the most human character in FF7. Barret gets an honorable mention in the post-Trump world as a disaffected coal miner eco-terrorist whose motivations are much easier to understand 20 years later.
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>>383557117
But now he's free to choose whoever he wants. Which is all good in my book. Is Yuuko an option in AF?
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>>383557357
Who the fuck is ezpz?
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>>383548584
>Name a more loyal woman in any video game than Tifa.
ezpz
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>>383557349
No sensei routes in AF. Nobody gets drunk and starts raping takeru this time.
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>Aerisfags pretending that she didn't get ZACKED and isn't dead

Tifa will always be the winner of the Cloud Bowl, the sooner you can accept this, the sooner you can emerge from your den of filth.
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People who say Tifa is loyal, either never paid attention to the scenes of the game or never played it at all. As someone that loves this game, it pisses me off to see so much bullshit spouted.

You people realize that: Tifa and Cloud barely knew each other? Tifa only developed an interest in Cloud when he mentioned joining SOLDIER? That Tifa made him promise her and he doesn't even care about the promise either? He forgets about it and tells her to pay him. That he cares more about the promise of being Aeris' bodyguard and never declined it or was forced into it. That no matter what you do in FF7, Cloud wants to meet Aeris in the promised land in the end? That in the debug room, the scene where Cloud and Aeris are in the park is called, "loveydovey~" and they had two dates in the game. And going by shitty novels, Aeris and Cloud are called lovers.
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>>383558524
Not to mention, Tifa lied to Cloud, kept lying to him and helped contribute to him losing his mind in Disc 2, all for him to keep his identity crisis and be someone he wasn't.
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>>383557406
easy peasy lemon squeezy
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>>383558524
Cloud and Tifa clearly cared for each other, you just sound like an Aerisfag.
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>>383558613
And if she had told him the truth he would've snapped and gone comatose just outside of Midgar and Barret would've gone back to bombing Shinra reactors or joined up with the group at Mt. Condor to try and defend the egg.
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>>383559572
>If you point out logic and reasoning, you MUST be X

God, you're retarded. Show me non-player choice scenes where that is the case? Did you know that In World of Final Fantasy, Terra and Cloud talk about Aeris being the woman he loved and lost?
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>>383559757
If you read her dialogues, it's implied she was afraid to tell him so he could keep playing a façade. Read the script carefully.
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>>383559818
Tifa gave Cloud head when he was catatonic. Checkmate.
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>tfw they will never make Cloud and Tifa kiss in the remake
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Aerith is such a fucking bitch

>If Tifa is chosen as Don Corneo's date:
>"You alright?" (+3 Aeris)
>"We gotta help Tifa!" (-2 Aeris)

>If Aeris is chosen as Don Corneo's date:
>"You alright?" (-2 Tifa)
>"We gotta help Aeris!" (+3 Tifa)
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just got to disc 3, breeding chocobos currently. what else do i do before seph
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>>383548584
Still hasn't gave up on him even after he died.
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>>383560012
What's it like to make up scenes and shitpost to suit your argument? You also realize you appreciate cuckquean relationships if you think Cloud and Tifa fucked under the Highwind, when Cloud deliberately tries to avoid her and seek Aeris? Like wanting to meet her in the Promised Land, where it's a place for happiness? Taking Advent Children in mind, Cloud wanted to die to be with Aeris

>Tifa: " You think you' ll meet her again this way? You think you would reach her by doing so? The way you die could be a good way, is that what you think?"

http://m.imgur.com/9miYz2B?r
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>>383560187
Posted the wrong girl.
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>>383560414
They both never really gave up on him, but Aigis did way more him in P3FES then Liz, but Liz does more after becuase she has the power to do so. I don't know what to tell you besides both?
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>>383560054
>tfw they won't reenact the H-OVA
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>>383561234
>there was a tiny segment in that video that was cut off at the start
god bless that giant compilation of h-porn
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>>383548584
Cloud is too in love with Aerith and he will die alone because he will never get over her.
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>>383561734
Not moving on is unhealthy.
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>>383561734
the entire ending of the game is about him finally moving on

>t. stuck in act 2 aerisfag
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>>383563174
I don't remember the movie much, but I am pretty sure he was all about "MUH AERITH". At most he can move on with his life but it is very unlikely he will end up in a romantic relationship with a woman.
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>>383548584
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>>383563484
There's a subtle distinction between being loyal and being a submissive doormat.
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>>383556926

>generic chink tifa

no thanks
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>Tifa
>loyal

She literally banged Johnny right in front of Cloud.

She also slept with Barret and played the role of his wife in raising Marlene.
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>>383550327
should just give up on Fratley and fuck Puck 'til he's comatose desu
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>>383549697
>ff7 is trash
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>>383560171
That was probably a programming mistake.
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>>383564361
I'm not seeing anything contrary to loyalty in what you posted.
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>>383563429
>fucks Tifa
>moves in with Tifa to start an orphanage
>they're happy together

You might be retarded.
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Nagase.
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>>383554686
You will die before the remake comes out
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>>383561734
He was so in love with her that he never mentioned her again after her death until she became relevant to the story near the end.
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>>383550348
Aeris was a roastie slut until she found out she served a higher purpose of dying like a bitch.
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>>383564361
>literally banged Johnny right in front of Cloud
>slept with Barret
Proof?
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>>383548584
tifa is my woman. she needs a real man like me and not "cloud" the cuck
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>tfw only can fap if it's tifa and cloud
I can't do it if it's anyone else, it sucks.
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>>383564935
>she needs a real man
No
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>>383555685
cloud look like that nigga XXXtentacion
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we must steal gene editing techmology and mass produce tifas
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>>383564361
>She literally banged Johnny right in front of Cloud
On what fucking planet? Johnny was thirsty as fuck for Tifa but he never got the courage to tell her anything outside of having a crush.

>She also slept with Barret and played the role of his wife in raising Marlene
Stop writing fanfiction.
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>>383548584
She whored herself at the Honey Bee Inn.
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>>383564391
Too loyal
Truly the best waifu
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>>383565091
and that's what eRP and fanfiction are for
god bless horrible people
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>>383565000
delet
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Yuffie is cuter.
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>>383557308
>FFVll was actually a dire warning from the future produced by time travellers, who alluded to their own presence in Chrono Trigger
I'd believe this. it explains why these two games are so far above the Square standard.
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>>383565048
>>383564839
>>383564613
Do not reply to paranoid NTRfags.
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>>383551647

Source?
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>>383565367
She's a thief who should be punished.
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>>383565806
She's a princess, also that's the wrong materia slot.
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>>383564445
nah your waifu is a fucking whore bitch
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>>383548584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIkDVVI2vs
try not to feel
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>>383565991
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>>383548584
That was easy.
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>>383566124
She's a young girl, anon. That's rude.
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>Name a more loyal woman in any video game than Tifa.

* Kept a promise to Alto for more than a thousand years, no matter how much it hurt her
* Became the villain, for his sake
* Put herself in his hands, even knowing it would doom the world, if he wanted to kill her, she would let him
* Finally rejoined him, practically unable to stop showing how happy she is to be at his side once more
* Blushes like a schoolgirl when Alto fuses with Elc; all the others are laughing at how he looks
* Literally destroys the lingering traces of her old feelings for his sake, so she can love him as Alto, not as Elc
* Gave up her suicidal atonement at his request to Marry him
* Stayed with him and gave birth to his daughter

Don't get me wrong, I love Tifa, but Hilda is very much top tier.
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>>383565000
>thinking about the full gif image
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>>383566620
When I was young, those pictures confused me so very much
Then I realized I wanted to fuck the chocobo, not Tifa WHOOPS
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>>383556481
He's not gay he's just waiting for the right gal and RESPECTING YHE FUCK OUTTA WIMEN.
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>>383566672
>the chocobo
> And not both in a fantastic orgy
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>>383553819
This is literally the only time they ever interacted as kids.
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>>383566570
Don't get me wrong, I haven't played Stella Glow, but there are a shitload of other vidya girls that unconditionally love the MC no matter what to that degree. There's one SAO game where you are forced to marry Asuna, and she literally lets you hold hands with and fuck other girls, sometimes right in front of her face. That's an extreme example, though. What it really comes down to is, does she have a personality?
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>>383564635
Where is proof that he fucked her? He just views Tifa as a friend. Cloud is meant to be like Simon because Japanese people love that shit and square enix wouldn't risk a shitstorm
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>>383560012
>Tifa is a rapist

Wow, great waifu you have there
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>>383564431
>he likes ff7
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>>383567410
Name a more loyal trope than yandere
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>>383569340
If Tifa were a yandere, she would've killed Aeris long before Sephiroth. Sucking someone's dick while they're completely unconscious is just a fucked up thing to do, archetypes be damned. Either way, this is about something that didn't even happen, so it's not like it matters.
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>>383567003

Yeah man, Hilda is fucking great, she's actually one of the best "Thousand years old" characters around, with her being tired and worn out from everything she's had to do to protect her promise. Explaining why she loves you and why she waits a thousand years for you would spoil pretty much the entire plot though.
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>>383567170
It was all but said in the original game. Also, I have to say this... AERIS WAS NOT A LOVE INTEREST. She is a fucking Jesus allegory and symbolic of Cloud's guilt. She is a personification of everything that Cloud had willingly, and unwillingy taken onto his shoulders. She was something Cloud cared for sure, but he was her body guard. She was his charge. She meant a lot to him, but she was not a romantic interest. She was what made the situation real to Cloud. Her death made him realize that there is more than himself. At the beginning Cloud gives zero fucks about the world... Aeris' death is his turning point. Do not being one of those idiots who is fooled by amazing music and the intimate holding of a dying friend.
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>>383568530

I wish they still made Phantasy Star games.
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>>383548584
>Name a more loyal woman in any video game than Tifa.
2B, easily. Though she got lucky with her object of affections too.

Tifa is actually pretty fucking awful. Everything bad in Cloud's lif happened because of her and supporting his delusions only made shit worse.
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>>383572328
>Everything bad in Cloud's lif happened because of her
What an incredibly unfair assertion. Cloud's life was ruined by Sephiroth and Hojo. Tifa never directly did anything bad to him.
>and supporting his delusions only made shit worse.
It's not like Jenova would have allowed Cloud to process it even if she denied it. He'd hold his head, the screen would whine and get staticy, and then Cloud would pretend she didn't say anything. Jenova doesn't let little things get in its way.
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>>383573490
>Cloud's life was ruined by Sephiroth and Hojo
He only got to meet them because of his stupid shitty-ass promise with a girl who didn't care about him at all, in desperate attempt to gain her attention.
In fact, even before that he got blamed for Tifa being a retard and hurting herself in the mountains.
>It's not like Jenova would have allowed Cloud to process it even if she denied it
Where this fanfiction is even coming from?
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>>383573802
>He only got to meet them because of his stupid shitty-ass promise with a girl who didn't care about him at all, in desperate attempt to gain her attention.
He got assigned to Nibelheim by coincidence. I don't think he deliberately signed up for the routine check-in.
>In fact, even before that he got blamed for Tifa being a retard and hurting herself in the mountains.
She didn't do that. The assholes of Nibelheim did.
>Where this fanfiction is even coming from?
What? Do you not know what's up with Cloud? Did you never play FFVII? His Jenova headaches are extremely common throughout disc one. Hell, his first one is barely three minutes into the game.
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>>383573887
>I don't think he deliberately signed up for the routine check-in.
He deliberately decided to become a SOLDIER which was the beginning of his suffering.
>She didn't do that.
Of course she didn't, she's a fucking retard who causes him mischief even just by being close.
>Do you not know what's up with Cloud?
Do you?
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>>383574040
>He deliberately decided to become a SOLDIER which was the beginning of his suffering.
And he failed and became a Shinra MP grunt. Which was a fine life for someone like him until Sephiroth lost it.
>Of course she didn't, she's a fucking retard who causes him mischief even just by being close.
That's hardly fair to her.
>Do you?
Yes, he's in a Jenova fugue and believes he's "Cloud, SOLDIER 1st class" because the Jenova cells within him scanned Tifa and reshaped his mind into what Tifa expected Cloud to be.
Wait, you're not one of those people who thinks Cloud has Zack's memories, are you?
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>>383574170
>And he failed and became a Shinra MP grunt.
Which is only a consequence of their stupid promise.
>That's hardly fair to her.
Well she's not fair to him too
> because the Jenova cells within him scanned Tifa and reshaped his mind into what Tifa expected Cloud to be
That's such a degree of retarded headcanons you're risking to reach new levels of autism possible mate.
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>>383550063
*Aeris
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>>383574429
>Which is only a consequence of their stupid promise.
That's hardly something she can really be blamed for, you know? You're reaching pretty dang far.
>Well she's not fair to him too
She never does anything to hurt him and is more than willing to help him when he's in trouble.
>That's such a degree of retarded headcanons you're risking to reach new levels of autism possible mate.
So you really don't actually know how FFVII's plot works, okay. Read the Ultimania guides sometime, perhaps, because this isn't a "headcanon", it's the legitimate plot. In FFVII itself you see the exact moment the Jenova cells within Cloud scan Tifa and turn him from mako-poisoned-and-dying-in-the-streets to "badass SOLDIER 1st class" which is what Tifa expected Cloud to be when they met again.
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*autistic tifafag screeching noises on the background*
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>>383574429
Not the guy you're replying to, but Cloud was comatose after Zack cracked open his jar and pulled him out of his second mako bath, he could have perceived that as him becoming a SOLDIER and with Zack rambling about his past, and Cloud being present at Nibelheim anyways, why was Zack ok and Cloud a vegetable?
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>>383574648
Source on that last bit.
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>>383574785
>on the background
lol
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>>383574648
>That's hardly something she can really be blamed for, you know?
Oh no, blaming her stupid ass for being a massive slut who only wanted to date someone popular and constantly getting into trouble which Cloud gets the blame for is quite fair.

Both she and Rinoa are some of the worst female leads in whole series.
>She never does anything to hurt him
Yet she hurts him more than anyone in the game.
Cloud asks her about the true events of his past at least THREE times and she still keeps being silent.
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>>383575085
>Cloud asks her about the true events of his past at least THREE times and she still keeps being silent.
Because from her point of view, Cloud is a super-powered schizophrenic. How well do you think that conversation would have gone?
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>>383575197
Well, not only that but he's talking about details that only someone who actually witnessed Nibelheim burning down would know, and from her point of view he wasn't there at all. For all she knew, she was the one going crazy.
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>>383575278
I clarify this. For all she knew, she might have thought that she was the one going crazy, not Cloud.
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>>383575197
>How well do you think that conversation would have gone?
Better than supporting his delusions resulting in mindbreak in the worst possible moment.
She's like that dog sitting in a burning house and saying "this is fine".
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>>383575353
Cid leading the party was the best part of the game though.
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>>383575065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmo4MwSfVgE
Here's the scene, at least.
The source would be the Ultimania guides which are in japanese.
Here's a translated transcription, I guess. It's from the middle block on this page.

*Jenova's mimic ability*
Jenova has a mimic ability which allows it to read the memories and feelings of others, then adjust its appearance, speech and behaviour accordingly to imitate what it has seen. Jenova once used this ability to get close to the Ancients and infect them with its virus, which killed many of them.

This ability is not limited solely to Jenova itself, for those who have its cells within them possess it as well, though in an incomplete form.
Immediately prior to the start of the game, when Cloud's mind was shattered, he ran into Tifa and seemed to immediately return to "normal" (-->P.13); this was because the mimic abilities of the Jenova cells inside Cloud read her mind, seeing her memories of him, which were then combined with his own ideal vision of himself, fashioning a new personality for him.

(Accompanying screenshot caption 1)
According to Ifalna, the Ancients infected with the virus lost their sanity and turned into monsters.

(Accompanying screenshot caption 2)
As Sephiroth said in the Whirlwind Maze, when Cloud met Tifa, he formed a new personality.


One of the major points of FFVII is that Sephiroth wasn't lying about everything, he was just phrasing it in the worst possible ways to fuck Cloud up because he's a vengeful prick.
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>>383575451
Indeed. And if someone needs an actual example of a faithful girl in FF7 they can always look at Shera.
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I want a GF like Tifa.
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>>383575085
>being a massive slut who only wanted to date someone popular and constantly getting into trouble which Cloud gets the blame
Oh that is just hollow bullshit and you can't blame Tifa when the people of Nibelheim were clods.
>Cloud asks her about the true events of his past at least THREE times and she still keeps being silent.
>>383575353
Even explaining the situation as she remembered it wouldn't have helped. As >>383575278 notes, Cloud wasn't even there to Tifa's knowledge, and then he recounted the facts as if he knew them, and got them mostly right other than his own presence. How could she possibly explain that away? If she just says "he wasn't there", then how does he know those things? She cannot rationalize it, she didn't know he was the MP.
Even if she DID say that, again, it would have just led to a Jenova headache and nothing changing.
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>>383558197
No one cares about Zack.

He was better paired with the Turk who even met his parents.

In Japan, Zack is even treated more gay than Cloud. Zack is more yaoibait than even Cloud.
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>>383575506
>Cloud's original plans before joining AVALANCHE
>wasn't meeting Tifa
>it was going far away
>had she'd let him go he would've been off to join Jenova and Sephiroth

And then the world would be saved by Barret, Shera, Cid and Dyne.
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>>383575978
Please tell me you don't actually believe this.
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>>383575978
More like and then Sephiroth gets and uses the Black Materia with nobody the wiser.
If anything, Jenova's mimic ability is what caused Sephiroth's downfall. FFVII is based off a lot of contrivance.
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>>383575803
>you can't blame Tifa when the people of Nibelheim were clods
People have nothing to do with their promise. She's just a slut.
>How could she possibly explain that away?
Start with identity of Zack, you know, what he directly asks her about when they visit his parents.
>would have just led to a Jenova headache and nothing changing
More retarded headcanons.
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>>383575716
we all do
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>>383576005
Well, maybe if Barret had gotten to the gold saucer earlier, then maybe Dyne would've been to tired to kill him self at the end of the boss fight!
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>>383576101
>People have nothing to do with their promise. She's just a slut.
Baseless.
>Start with identity of Zack, you know, what he directly asks her about when they visit his parents.
It's not like "Cloud" can recognize who Zack was.
It's not like Tifa really knew who Zack was, either.
>More retarded headcanons.
Play FFVII sometime. Note every time the screen starts playing a high pitch whine and Cloud grabs his head. That noise is Jenova, tampering with his thoughts and perception. It happens at least 30 times before disc 1 is over.
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I'll fucking do it, I swear to god.
I'm not fucking playing around here.
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>>383576564
DO IT FAGGOT
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>>383576564
Do it
Only faggots care about the name
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>>383576564
Go for it, anon.
I do it everytime I do a new run.
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>>383576609
>>383576616
I fucking warned you
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>>383576856
WHAT HAVE YOU DOOOOOOONE
I did use the name Aeris for a while even after they made it official 100% that it was Aerith, but then I slowly shifted over to the proper way
Don't bother me none anymore
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>loves him very much
>never actually say that she does or even flirt
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>>383565000
Kek
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>>383576856
The absolute madman!
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>>383548584
got blacked in AC
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>>383576935
>Japanese (game)
>PDA or directness
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>Advent Children
>Tifa and Cloud still don't even live together
kek
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>>383577423
I thought they do live together, it's just that in AC Cloud is dying of magicancer and suffering severe depression because of it, so he's away from home.
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>falls for a guy from other dimension
>in the end he returns back
>her feelings for him are so strong she can't settle for his version from her own world because he's still a different person
>acknowledges that she would always be alone because of it, scared because of it and just wants to see him again
>he was actually around all this time
>probably will become a protagonist of the third game
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>>383577770
>I thought they do live together
Implied virtually nowhere.
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>>383578074
Are you genuinely retarded or do you just pretend?
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>>383578196
No, i'm just not a braindead shipfag.
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>>383578278
So you're a braindead retard.

Cloud lives in the upstairs part of Tifa's new bar. Have you even watched the fucking movie?
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>>383578496
>single bed
What exactly are you trying to confirm there
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>>383578665
That Tifa and Cloud live in separate rooms in the same house, most likely. He's the kinda guy that needs space anyway.
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>>383578665
That Cloud fucking lives there, in that room, where he operates his "Strife Delivery Service" from you dumb retard.
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>>383578720
>Tifa and Cloud live in separate rooms
So they don't live together?
>>383578738
>where he operates his "Strife Delivery Service"
Well it certainly doesn't look like he's delivering something to Tifa if you catch my drift.
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>>383578803
>avatarfag can't even admit he's wrong
kek colour me surprised
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>>383578959
>shipfags being triggered as fuck because their ship was never intended to sail in first place
Colour me surprised.
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>>383578803
>So they don't live together?
Are you saying 1 does not equal 1?
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>>383579042
No, i'm saying Cloud friendzoned that bitch hard and for a reason.
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>>383579017
>buh muh shipfags
nice strawman retard
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>>383548584
>enabling the paranoid delusions of an autistic manchild
Tifa was a mistake.
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>>383550820
Did you play the game? Once he told her that he was going to join SOLDIER, she caused a flood warning in her panties.

When Zack and Spehiroth came to town, the first thing she did was look for Cloud.
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>>383577838
Muh nigga.


Also are Tifa's white coloured panties canon? Seems everyone universally draws them white.
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>>383579126
Well, how else should i call people staying in complete denial over two fictional characters not being engaged romantically?
>tfw looking at the history of FF7 creation
>Masato fucking Kato, tasteless hack behind Chrono Cross and Sands of Destruction is the only one who tried to ship Cloud and Tifa, not even Nojima himself
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>>383579418
Well, do point those people out for me.
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>>383579206
Honestly after beginning of PS1 era there was only one good romance in mainline FF games and it's Tidus/Yuna.
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>>383579373
>Also are Tifa's white coloured panties canon? Seems everyone universally draws them white.
If you've ever played Dissidia, it's not hard to get an upskirt.
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>>383574040
He was fine as SOLDIER, but embarrassed that he didn't make 1st class. His suffering started because a complete nutjob burnt down his whole fucking village.

And to answer the "Tifa fed his delusions," excuse that people keep throwing. It's fucking explained when you fall in the lifestream in Medeel that Tifa, like Cloud, suffered trauma from the event and wasn't sure about her own memories. She went along with Cloud, because for most part, she did remember him being there at Nibelheims reactor.
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anyone got pic where tifa, cloud and rude are fighting but cloud and rude are distracted by tifa's tifas?
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>>383575506
>*Jenova's mimic ability*
>Jenova has a mimic ability which allows it to read the memories and feelings of others, then adjust its appearance
this seems pretty obvious considering the whole sephiroth thing
he's not actually a part of the game at all, every time he shows up it's actually jenova
you only finally meet up with him when you give him the black materia at the northern crater and lose cloud to the lifestream
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>>383580546
It was never supposed to be a secret, it's mentioned in the game a few times.
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>>383580828
Yeah. I seriously have no idea how the fanfiction of "Cloud has Zack's memories" got around.
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>>383548584

she is as pure and tsundere as it gets.
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>>383553409
They were only like 19-21ish in the present
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>>383580960
To be fair, the Zack's memories part has way less plot holes than Jenova's mimic being responsible.

Also, Crisis Core pretty much confirms Cloud gains his memories.
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>>383554273
I know this is 8 hours ago, but you're not serious are you? He literally had to call her out to talk to her, the scene where cloud trips out and remembers everything encompasses their entire childhood and Cloud was just the autistic kid who sticks along
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>>383581534
>Crisis Core pretty much confirms
how
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>>383581534
Crisis Core doesn't confirm jack on that end. There's just the whole living legacy bit, which is to do with Zack's spirit, not memories.
And there's no plot holes at all, it's just a tad convoluted.
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>>383548584
>reincarnated over 10000 years and the only man she loves is Fei
>tells Fei that even if the entire world turns against him, she would still side with him
>willing to die to save Fei from Krellian

Adolescence is idolizing Tifa. Adulthood is realizing that Elly is the best girl.
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>>383581914
Ain't she's pretty much programmed to love him though?
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>>383581635
>>383581639
Exactly, it's convoluted and opens the door for it to be way more confusing.

Why does Jenova "activate" when Tifa comes around and not the guard who first finds him? Why is the memory he gains from her selective?

It's easier to swallow that Cloud's mind is fucked and warped from everything that a mashup of his, Tifa's and Zack's memory combined in order to function, like how trauma in real life can sometimes give you false memories.
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>>383548584
Yeah, shes sooo loyal
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>>383582504
>Why does Jenova "activate" when Tifa comes around and not the guard who first finds him? Why is the memory he gains from her selective?
Because Cloud is just a dude infected with Jenova, he's not truly a Jenova creature (a being completely subsumed by Jenova and become an extension of Jenova). He can't physically transform. And his brain has limits to what he can become.
In the game, it actually tries to scan the guard, but it doesn't find any matching data. You hear the Jenova static effect and the screen flashes white when the guard approaches, but Cloud doesn't know that guard or anyone that guard knows, so he can't be someone that guard knows. Unless someone from Nibelheim or perhaps someone who knew him in Midgar came along, the Jenova transformation can't really activate completely as he won't generate "someone to be". (I'd bet he could have transformed into "Zack" had someone who knew Zack came around, but that's an actual headcanon.)
It's purest luck for Tifa to be around at all, else Cloud would have slowly succumbed to exposure, unable to feed or shelter himself. Most Sephiroth Clones ended up like that, stumbling around and grunting incoherently. They only manage to live as long as they do because Hojo's experiment demands taking care of them until the Reunion begins.
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>>383549639
They were childhood friends
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>>383582993
She was never interested in him as a child.
It took her living in slums and rapidly approach 30 to cling to a first good guy she saw.
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>>383548584
>lies to Cloud for 3/4 of the game and enables his mental degradation
>but she has big titties and wants to fuck so it's """loyal"""
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>I'll never forget the time we met. I knew ours was a love that would last for eternity.
>But even when by his side, his feelings were a mystery. It was painful not to know what he was thinking. So painful.
>When I was close, I hurt him. Yet being distant hurt him more.
>I finally found my place in life. A place where I am as close as possible, yet eternally distant.
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>>383553686
>She lies to him the whole game and makes his dementia worse because she's too emotionally weal to face reality.
She's been in 3 or so comas, I honestly don't think her memory is as up to par as we think.
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>>383583915
Nice fanfiction.
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>>383584482
I honestly can't tell if some of you are responding to the right post, I'm sure its all bait but fuck you anyway
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>>383550348
Aeris was a "flower girl"
enjoy your canon used goods
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>>383584786
>there was absolutely nothing in the game indicating Tifa had memory issues
>Tifa herself admits she was lying about it the whole time
>the guilt over this is one of the biggest elements of her character
>B-but she just didn't know she was lying! It's not her fault! My waifu is a perfect good girl! She would never lie on purpose! She just had, uh, memory issues that I pulled out of my ass and aren't supported by the narrative! Dindu nuffin! NOT HER FAULT!!!! Aerith is a whore! A WHORE!!!!!
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>>383548584
Name a more loyal woman in any video game than Lydia.

This girl stayed by dragonborn's side through SO much shit and loves him so much. Lydia is the ultimate sweetheart in gaming and would make the best wife in the world.
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>>383585242
I am so fucking sick of this urban legend.
"Flower girl" has no sexual connotations in japanese. It never has. It has never been a code word for "prostitute", that is something made up wholesale by the FFVII english fanbase purely to make Aerith look worse for reasons I cannot infer.
It doesn't fucking mean prostitute.
It doesn't fucking mean it. It doesn't fucking mean it. It doesn't fucking mean it.
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>>383577838

>getting cockblocked by yourself from another universe

I still feel really bad for Alternis.

>>383548584

Alice Elliot is a pretty good contender.
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>>383586060
It's adorable how different Alternis and Ringabel are.
It took nigga a good old memory loss to become a chill and cool character who doesn't behave like he always has a stick in his ass.
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>>383555945
They are pretty big in Dissidia. Also the lastest Nomura drew her she was very stacked.
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>>383556691
Crossdress Cloud has been confirmed
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>>383550820
>Cloud knows Tifa is 2nd rate, that's why he can't get over Aeris
Cloud and Tifa literally cuddle (fuck) all night under the airship at the end before the crater descent if you pick Tifa as the romance option.
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>>383550801
no, the scene under highwind is the fug scene, if you date Tifa at gold Saucer it gets an extra scene.
it was originally going to be Tifa coming out of the Chocobo Stables and getting spotted and embarrased but they felt it was too risque so they changed it.
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>>383587051
>>383587250
And the romance version has been multiple times confirmed to be the canon one.
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>>383550978
>Aeris
>Strong moments at the start of the game
As opposed to at the end of the game, anon?
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>>383555152
>>383555320
>>383555365
I'd kinda forgotten how much the FF7 characters look like Wii Miis.

Oh crap now it's ruined forever.
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