>mfw the Overwatch pro scene is dying and pro players and

>>383542034
Why move there when Quake Champions is on the rise?

There's also Paladins.

Though I'm sure most will just move over the CS:GO because that's where the money is.

>>383542034
>>383542148
I've also heard positive things about Lawbreakers.

Battleborn is my favourite billion dollar franchise.

>suffocate your own scene by announcing a serious league a year before it's ready
>ask for ridiculous amounts of money for a spot in said league

Not sure what Blizzard expected but now even some decent teams are dropping out.

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>>383542034
Finally! haha. I for one cannot WAIT for this great game to grow! Anybody else have a good Steam sales..?

>>383542771
Leave it to Blizzard to snatch defeat from the etc.

They'll have another SC2 if they're not careful, but OW is still pretty popular so we'll see.

>>383542034
>overwatch pro scene is dying
how did blizzard fuck up this time

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>>383542034
I know I left Overwatch for Battleborn.
Finally.. I feel like a badass

Thank you for this gift, Randy

>>383543086
blizzard artificially keeps their competitive scenes alive by pumping a shitload of money into them and as soon as they stop people leave.

>>383542148
>when Quake Champions is on the rise?
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>383543086
muh dive meta

muh roadhog is dead

muh SR

muh toxic players

take your pick

>>383542034
Do you have any links on this sort of stuff? I don't want you to be wrong

>>383542034
at least those players aren't wasting their talent on casual shit now. Battle born still sucks.

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>when a free game btfo blizzard

Hahahahahahaha

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>>383543086
Overwatch needs to stop trying to get that e-sports dosh. They missed out on it and it's time to move on. This is just pathetic.
>Try to push WoW as an e-sports
>Horribly balanced and is a joke
>Try to push Hearthstone as an e-sports
>Is the most casual card game ever
>Try to push HotS as an e-sports
>It fails miserably because it has to compete with Dota 2 and LoL
>Try to push Overwatch as an e-sports
>It dies down dramatically within a year because every single game is relatively the same and he skill ceiling is far too low and unrewarding to make the really hardcore people stick with it

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>>383543365
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-27-a-year-on-from-launch-overwatch-is-a-struggling-esport

Here's an image of all the teams that have dropped out this year as well.

>>383543086
Blizzard balances around quick play and not around competitive

Blizzard charges 20 million burgers for teams to get in their league that barely gets a tenth of the viewers League/Dota/cs:go get

>>383542309
>>383542148
Whichever one has no tanks and healers is the one I'll play. Healers and tanks in fps games is fucking cancer.

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>>383542148
>CSGO
>MONEY

Theres no real money in anything except dota

>>383543840
The average pro of cs:go and lol do get a 6 figure yearly salary though

>>383543942
>For a top level CS:GO team who will be consistently performing at a top level at major tournaments, salaries are between $7,000 and $10,000, a figure that he believes is about right for now as the market stands.

Compare that to a 20 million dollar prize pool

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>>383543662
>So what is the counter to this? Basically nothing. McCree? D.Va would sit in his face.

>>383544196
>Actually believing that the winning team will get the full cash pool without taxes and other fees.

>>383542148
The new Quake is shit, everyone lost interest

>>383544352
Nobody said they got the full pool you fat retard>>383544352

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>>383543786
>20 million dollars league fee
>for a fucking video game
only blizzard could be this dumb

>>383543786
Why is Blizzard so dumb? All their esports shit is dying on all fronts and they think they can get away with charging millions?

>>383542034
>they expected blizzard to actually balance a game
They have been working on WoW for like 10 years and it has never been balanced

>blizz couldn't balance wow for years
>people thought ow would be balanced

Was SC2 ever balanced? What was the last game blizz made that had decent balance, BW?

>>383543786
20 million for a team to enter the scene? Is that a real figure? Where does that money go, are the prize pools HUGE?

>>383543343
>muh toxic players
Exists in every game, you're right about everything else though, it's why I stopped playing for a while. I loved playing roadhog (though I can play everyone else equally well and have nearly equal hours for every hero except mercy) and he was in a fine spot before jeff decided to nerf him because "muh 1hko" (meanwhile, hanzo scatter still exists). It's a pathetic reason to hide behind when the real reason is that the low mmr community constantly bitched about him.

I was already having some trouble getting roadhog to work in masters against other master player counters (tracer, zarya, solider, anyone decent enough to bait/dodge hooks). His win rate and pick rate was right in the middle of all the heroes.

No game should balance from the bottom and cater to complainers. Games have to balance at the highest level (arguably the pro scene) to get the meta changing and refrain from unnecessary nerfs or buffs

>>383544606
was WC3 ever considered balanced?

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>>383544669
That's what espn reported. Nobody outside of the bidders have any idea of what's going with the specifics though.

>Multiple sources said Blizzard is asking for a $20 million franchise fee for the league featuring its popular 2016 game, with prices escalating from there in larger markets such as New York and Los Angeles. However, following the $20 million buy-in, teams are not guaranteed revenue sharing until after 2021 and only if Blizzard meets certain criteria that sources did not disclose to ESPN. Additionally, sources said if a team sells its spot to another party, the league would receive 25 percent of the proceeds.

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>>383544713
>this is what """esports""" has done to video games

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>E-sports even existing at all
Can't people just enjoy what they do without fagging with competitive bullshit?

>>383544778
Hum and Elf are top tier, UD and Orc are bad

>>383544606
>Was SC2 ever balanced?
Not really. It had a much higher skillcap though so it was harder to tell which race was actually OP. Terrans did have some bullshit early game rushes that were really hard to survive through, not sure what the game is like these days

blizzard can't into esports

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>Not changing the meta every 2 or 3 weeks by introducing new champions and nerfing possible powercreeps.

https://youtu.be/U98_Q1RvN0I?t=8m5s
No wonder OW is dying meanwhile Paladins is growing pretty fast both in PC and console.

>>383544927
Esports or not, balance has to be at the highest level. I don't follow the overwatch competitive scene, or any "competitive' scene for games I play, but from what I know, the dive meta comes from pros finding what works very well (and easy to do).

I know this was the reason for triple tank also. Like it or not, after a certain mmr you have to follow meta or lose because that's what your team is doing, and unfortunately in most cases the only counter is having the exact thing (dive vs dive, 3 tank vs 3 tank).

Shit sucks and it gets stale, but it is what it is

>>383544196
cs go buyouts are over a million now you stupid retard, they make way more than that + prize money + sticker money

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>>383544940
E-sports have existed for decades now, there will always be a competitive nature in multiplayer games and until something horrible happens it will keep getting bigger

>>383545135
That video title gave me cancer

>>383544598
I've always thought about how dumbfuck a company like Blizzard is when its literally been 10 years and counting and the game is still not balanced. It's their fuckin job to do such a mundane task and never have they ever completed that task.

Overwatch has always been a bad game. Blizzard's strong fanbase is the only reason the game sold well.

>>383543086
the skill ceiling just isn't high enough

can someone give me the full rundown on what happened to the competitive overwatch scene? I mean the big streamers are still there, but maybe it's just cognitive bias, it seems like there's just less pro stuff going on.

>>383545169
Sticker money is huge as far as I know. In league the team icons money isn't even comparable from what pros have said, however Riot does pay a 75k salary, that + the salary from the org +sponsors and streaming. In Dota2 unless you are winning tournaments you don't get much money AFAIK

The game might be actual fun to play if every character could actually fight back. I felt this way in TF2 with all the characters.

>>383545403
pick the same 6 heroes every time or you lose

>>383545135
too bad it controls like utter shit and it looks shit. And its made by a b-tier dev team

>>383543086
Low TTK
Bad balancing
Chokepoints
Ultimates are dumbed down so even idiots can get free kills
Stale meta with no counters
Each champions has only ONE playstyle, no room for creativity.
Slow updates

>>383545403
/v/ is exaggerating as usual anon don't mind them
but the overwatch scene doesn't have longevity from where I'm standing unless they start punishing the mindless core competitive gameplay where it's all about spamming at choke points until ults are up.

I think they will eventually, if Jeff hasn't lost his edge, but it needs to change ASAP before another game that's actually good (lawbreakers babies kys, TF3 never) comes out.

>>383544352
Valve pays the taxes on the TI prizepool.

>>383543840
>>383543786
>win the international
>get juuust enough money to buy in to the Overwatch scene

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>>383543343
>>383544713
The Overwatch Community is shit because Blizzard made the game in such a way that there's no way to enforce social rules.
The reason TF2 didn't have this problem, was community servers. There was one server that played Balloon race, 1 server that hosted Convoy, and if I wanted to play those maps I had to not piss people off, because if I did I would never be able to play that map again.
The people you play with in Overwatch you'll never see again, so you have an incentive to be an asshole because no consequences.

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>>383542034
>tfw you predicted the esports side will fail as soon as they started pushing for it

i feel like overwatch is a good game if you were a streamer, you got to ride out the big twitch dosh wave and prob for another year or so but that's all i think will last

when the cards come down to the table blizzard just has absolutely fucking horrendous decision making when it comes to balancing

>>383545821
Actually it's a really bad game if you're a streamer because you lose the more you pay attention to chat.
Black Desert was a much better choice for casual streamers, it's still on first page for some fucking reason.
But if you got in during Hearthstone's boom? Fuuuuuuuuuug

>>383543086
it isn't

>>383543086

Low skill ceiling
Lack of heroes
Lack of balance leading to all teams and all games being the same
Poorly designed maps
Updates are too infrequent and too small
Blizzard expects pro teams to pay huge sums of money up front to have the privilege of competing for a tiny fraction of the money they paid

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Competitive FPS is for pissy manlets and mental midgets who can't do half circles.

>>383543086
because Overwatch is really casual.

the meta revolves around using the ultimate abilities in conjunction and that's it.

if overwatch put out more heroes at least just on the ptr id be happy, like more omnics or something, just seems like theyre afraid to do anything

>>383544352

Valve pay any taxes the winners would have to though.

Meanwhile, Blizzard expect you to pay $20 million up front just so you're allowed to compete in the pro scene.

>>383545797
exactly companies need to not push this sorta shit and just let the community take care of it early on.

reminder blizzard would not pay off the winners taxes hope no one has mentioned this yet

>>383545403
The Overwatch League looming over the whole scene has simply caused a lot of uncertainty. Even the Koreans seem frustrated with the game.

>>383546102
>Blizzard expect you to pay $20 million up front
This is for cities and infrastructure investment but ok

>>383544606

No. It's part of the reason the SC2 pro scene is dead as fuck.

The disappointment from Doomfist's reveal is enough to kill Overwatch alone.
What a shitty character.

>>383546086
>4+ maps
>3 heroes
>symm rework
>just seems like theyre afraid to do anything

so how is doomfist, is he repulsively overpowered or pathetically weak

>>383543396
its worse and has P2W so leave shill

>>383546367
hard countered by junkie
junkie will forever be god tier
eat shit non-aussies

>>383546323

WoW caused Blizzard to get lazy as fuck. They think they can get away with releasing a few meagre patches a year. I'm surprised they haven't announced an Overwatch expansion yet.

>>383546245
I only saw that animated reveal, what's actually wrong with him?

>>383545135
you mean stagnant the games population is never moving there servers are still sad and pathetic like all HI-rez titles the game has P2W card shit and they can and will hurt smite with oh wait it already HI-rez has killed more games at this point then made any

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>make a FPS
>the meta is 2 Tanks/2 Healer per 6 person team like it was a Raid party in a RPG

Also I get unusually butthurt when the game crashes and then the game gets pissy at me for 'quitting' games.

>>383546551
I think you mean
>literally spending half a billion trying to make WoW 2.0 caused blizz to get conservative as fuck

>>383546620
redditors wanted some famous black actor to voice him
he didn't
redditors mad

>>383544598
>>383545275
>>383542034
I think Blizzard is against balancing. They internally think that it's more fun to take turns being OP.

>people are shilling p2w shit like paladins
can you just fuck off

>>383546779
>p2w
Explain

Woulda liked to see what Blizzards FPS mmo thingy woulda been like instead of "PLEASE BECOME ESPORTS" game with memes.

>>383546102
The current pro scene is literally "one dad gets his son and a bunch of his friends to sign up for a tournament as a 'team' which then gets a few dollars from G2A to plaster their fucking logo on their shirts"

Overwatch league will have spots for cities and yearly leagues just like MLB or NBA, you buy into a team for 20 million fucking dollars and every year your team performs in the tournaments.

So unless you already own the fucking LAKERS you arent considering buying in, you're considering trying out for the team.

There is no "prize pool" to strive for as everyone will get paid for performing, all the money coming from advertisers and sponsors and fucking t-shirts.

its changing the "riot/valve pitch in money to force people to watch" to "this shit's on TV and kellogs is paying for the playoffs so they can post the player's face on wheaties"

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>>383545769
Theres so many factors to why "toxic" players are more noticeable in comparison that comes from the very multiplayer online infastructure that results in those "toxic" players to tf2 that i can't explain fast and cohesive enough before this thread dies


atleast until meet your match, the only reason why you would really play was because you wanted to, there was nothing really at stake from winning or losing, other than winning or losing, and you could pretty much leave and join at any time

In overwatch the way that multiplayer works, it increases the time between a game ending, with match making, Theres penalties for leaving games increasing the commitment from losing more xp and having to play more matches, time commitment, lower players meaning that if one person is shit one a 5 or six man team your pretty much screwed where someone leaving a game or being shit on a 12 man team is less damaging to your experience

These fucking idiots that make the esport centered pieces of shit complain about toxic agressive players when the entire way esport centered multiplayer games are designed in such a way to aggrivate minor, or major issues regarding the game or mutiplayer conduct in general
it pisses me off, i need to write a stupid report or some shit on this

>>383546692

If it's true they spent so much money trying to make a game and produced nothing, Blizzard has some serious problems at a managerial level. There is no business on this planet that would throw around that kind of money on nothing.

>>383543840
Prize pools are not how pro players get paid friend

>>383545971
Its also unbearable as a spectator. I dont know if the spectating has gotten better, but its a mess to watch.

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>remembering all that money you spent on loot boxes
>don't even play the game anymore

>>383546684
>Also I get unusually butthurt when the game crashes and then the game gets pissy at me for 'quitting' games.
This happened to me early on shortly after competitive was added and made me not want to do comp anymore.

>>383546878

Not sure what you're trying to say here, but both LoL and DotA 2 pro games have been shown on TV since before Overwatch was even a thing.

>>383546903
they spent 5 years and half a billion trying to make a game, and it was such phenomenal shit they decided to cancel it and fire anyone they could spare to fire.

The remaining crew just flipped the assets and accidentally made the best selling game of the past and future decade

>>383544352
>10k income
>taxes

>>383546903
Overwatch is quite literally just the scraps from that game. It's VERY apparent when you look at certain animations that weren't patched, it feels explicitly MMO-like.

If anything, Hearthstone being a game that costed so little and bringing in HUGE money has made Blizzard want to treat all their projects like such.

Did overwatch eatsports pro competitive gaemering only pick up and stay propped up because of big prize pools?

>fps game forces you to play rpg roles
>wonder why people don't like it
blizzard, people play fpshooter to shoot stuff not to dungeon raid

>>383545821
The problem with Blizzard has always been
1) They cave too easily to mass bitching and
2) They have the finesse of a gorilla with a sledgehammer

>>383546852
>have to grind for new heroes if you don't want to buy them
>cards are either grinded for or you have to get them randomly from chests
>chests have to be grinded for or paid for
>you need these to be effective at paladins

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>>383547167
>They have the finesse of a gorilla with a sledgehammer
woah hey guys

>>383547108
The only shit they carried over from Titan were concepts like Tracer's kit.

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>>383546897
You're right, it does penalize pop in and out behaviour.
The example I always point to for a game that has a good community "despite the mechanics" is Natural Selection 2, because it builds stuff into the game that makes the community better.
Shit like if your team mates die it doesn't snowball the enemy team. So it's always useful to have someone with you, even if they're incomptent because they can be a bullet sponge
A ready room, so you talk with your allies and enemies before and after rounds and have a chance to "show off" if you had a mech, or jetpack or something

>>383542034
>mfw the Overwatch pro scene is dyi
Let me guess, you read a few threads on reddit?

A very small fraction of players are threatening to "leave" because they don't like the current meta. They're not going anywhere.

Also, pros are not leaving, smaller orgs are disbanding to give their players the opportunity to get in on OW League. You just don't see that because there's a lot of legal tape gagging people from speaking about it.

Battleborne is a shitfest and has always been one, with pathetic peak player numbers.

How fucking butt blasted are you that OW is popular that you need to make stupid threads like this? Oh no you saw Taimou throwing a fit that he can't click heads and win right now! All the players must be mad because this one manchild is throwing his tantrum!

I want summer to end.

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>>383542148
>Why move there when Quake Champions is on the rise
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHHA

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>>383547271
>there are people who unironically play hearthstone
How the fuck do you play a CARD GAME with no TRADING, or TALKING WITH YOUR OPPONENT
How am I supposed to recommend it to a friend if they have to spend 100$ before they can get a decent deck?

>>383547509
>How am I supposed to recommend it to a friend if they have to spend 100$ before they can get a decent deck?
Sounds like real card games to me.

>Try to watch an OW pro match
>There's red and blue outlines despite in-game everyone on your team being blue and everyone else red when you're playing
>This confuses the fuck out of everyone versus TF2 where their uniforms represent the team they're on
>Most matches are near mirrors adding to the confusion
>Matches generally end up as ult bomb clusterfucks, making it near impossible to figure out what's going on
All they gotta do is change the outline colors or made something more logical to begin with. Even Dirty Bomb figured this out by changing the highlight colors to yellow and purple when in spectator mode. Speaking of Dirty Bomb, a new map and mercenary is coming out tomorrow. It seems like they're going all in on developing that game again after abandoning it for awhile.

>>383547373
Sweet Jesus I wish ns2 had a larger playerbase, i loved the five hundred hours I pumped into that game

>>383547451
t. Montecristo

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>>383547365
And here's probably the most info about Titan we'll ever get.

>>383547509
Sounds like a real card game minus the trading.

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>>383547451
The scene has been dead as fuck for ages because everyone is waiting for the League to start. The only worthwhile tournaments are few and far between. Plus the best teams have been playing in Korea for almost a year.

>>383543786
And that's what you need to do. But they aren't they balance around tournaments. It's like saying widowmaker is not OP as fuck because she is not played in tournaments.

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>>383547701

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>>383547581
>>383547707
I can just GIVE my friend a deck that he can play
That's what my friend did when teaching me Netrunner

>>383547167
2) They have the finesse of a gorilla with a sledgehammer
>Vial of Shadows hits too hard
>Ok, let's make it hit for less but proc more often
>Rogues auto attacks are now the equivalent to dual wielding chili blenders.

fuck you couldnt be more right

Whats going to be the next cancer in fps after moba elements

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>>383547509
because wild mode is comfy, anon. I can play my shitty inspire priest decks without losing to whatever is in the meta. I only started playing it again literally yesterday so I can't play standard, so wild is a godsend.
Why would I want to talk to my opponent anyway? I want to my first Magic prerelease yesterday and talking to the opponent was only fun if they were a friendly person with a similar amount of experience. Why would I want to talk to a hearthstone opponent who is either some faggot streamer or a child

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>>383543840
>Implying that's better than the guaranteed income and far higher streaming revenue for League

DotA pays out big to the people at the very top and everyone else starves. League pays out well to everyone and the very top are still millionaires.

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>>383547451

>>383547837
god that looks so much better

>>383543086
All the anons are lying to you. Pros don't really care about the money as long as their getting cash. The pro scene is dying because Blizzard stonewalled 3rd party organizers to have complete control via OWL which is probably going to be a huge fucking meme and no one really gives a shit about the competition because it's literally one LAN every 4 months that has 50 gook teams and 1 non-korean team.

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>>383547932
For the mind games, obviously.
Saying shit like "go on, play into meteor" and stuff like that constantly.
Or because card games tend to be a social activity, and have been since the invention of card games?

>>383547509
>know how the game works
>read the card effects
>build a deck
>play

>>383547870
Literally the only times Blizzard even remotely approached the concept of "balance" has been by complete accident

>>383548196
The problem is when you say "build a deck"
Build a deck, how?
All the tier 1 decks require you to spend a hundred dollars or get really lucky with legendaries

>>383548135
I can go against friends and do that. Considering the popularity of hearthstone, I assume people like the strategy aspect of card games but sometimes just want to play a fucking game at 3am and not have to take a bus to an event. I guess that does depend on how much the social aspect is important personally.
>>383548317
Like any card game, you have to do a bit of research and have some pack luck. All card games require money but yeah it does suck that you can't just lend your friend a deck and have a friendly game.

>>383542309
nice try lawbreakers dev, your game is dead on arrival

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>>383544669
>>383544478

The idea behind the $20million is that they want big endemic sponsor's like Coke or such to buy into the idea of being a franchised partner (that is, part of a small group that gets exclusive access).

LoL has been toying with that for some time, with the big Soccer clubs in EU taking teams and some NBA franchises looking into it too. Blizzard obviously wants to pip Riot at the post and is selling the long term benefits of franchising hard.

(A team for NA LCS was worth a few million before franchising, now they'd easily be worth around 10-20 million+. That's exclusive access, permanent membership and revenue sharing. But that's LoL not Overwatch...)

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>>383548552
It's not a major thing, you're right.
I'm just spoiled by Netrunner I guess

the only thing this thread has reminded me is that Blizzard is a giant meme with horrible balance

"??? armor penetration is fine, no, you're the stupid person" jesus what a time to be alive that was

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>overwatch finally burning out
>and yet tf2 still lives
will it ever die?

>>383545917
>But if you got in during Hearthstone's boom?

You mean League right? The top LOL streamers are multimillionaires, even better for the pros who transitioned into team owners.

It's enough in America to damage the pro scene (more money to just stream) and it's even better in China. Sucks to be EU Though.

>>383546671

That black one is damn nice

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>>383548038
Would've been interesting to see some actual gameplay

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>current proleague season going on right now
>another season just announced
>expanding proleague with Asia-Pacific regions with Japan, South Korea, South East Asia, and Australia-New Zealand
Why haven't you taken the rainbow pill yet?

>>383549152
Unless the Jungle update is a massive fuck-up, nah.

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OW just needs a third party group to rebalance the game. They can then host custom games with the necessary balance changes.

But that will only take them so far, since they cannot actually redesign abilities.

>>383547581
>>383547509

It's metered, but you're still getting some free cards just from playing. Better than getting reamed buying physical packs for 5 dollars. Oh what's that? Your binder is full, ok, lets go to Staples and spend more money.

>>383546671
Alright i"ll try out Paladins

According to investor calls, Paladins gets more concurrent players than Overwatch

The game is just dying.

>>383547837

Archon looks like Mercy, and actually looks like a DPS. Would take that over Mercy.

>>383549545
>shoot when pixel changes color: the game

>>383542309
The Lawbreakers beta was bland as fuck. It wasn't bad but I don't expect it to have many players.

>>383545769
fug?

>>383549685
It plays like a very janky Overwatch. The women are good though and it's criminal how Splashbrush is basically the only one to weather the storm and get us r34 of the girls.

>>383547095
>I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

10k received is high enough to have to pay taxes on you fucking retard. Maybe when you grow up and become an adult you'll know all of this. Until then, keep your mouth shut.

>>383547709
Did the playerbase even increase? It looks like it gained what, 20 people since going F2P?

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>This is a 16YO archer.

>>383548317
>one of the better decks is pirate warrior and zoo hunter which require 1 or 0 legendaries and very few cards.

lmao, shitter acknowledged

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I bet Monte feels really fucking stupid now.

every games is that build from the ground up to be eSport from the begining it turns into mess. huge franchises on the competitive scene achieve that status because people were having fun playing them since there were made with fun pvp in mind. now get OW and SFV with shitty balance and every character play the same.
At least capcom bend over and let sponsors abuse their holes as much as they want.

>>383545369
this

LoL has a higher skill ceiling which is just sad.

>>383551000
This artist has such a bad artstyle for porn.

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>>383546430
I dont think its even legally possible to be a worst game than battleborn

>>383551501
Even paladins has higher skill ceilings, some champs can have up to 3 or 4 different builds, not counting the burn cards you buy during the match.

>>383551664
what the fuck is that janky arm

>caring about the 'pro scene'
lol

And casuals probably want come back. I left and won't return because they said fuck you to people who want to have fun and not ESPOOOOOOOOORTS
>Game is fun during beta and the first couple weeks
>Have fun games like 6v6 torb and shit
>They put in some epeen mode for ranked fags
>Eventually ranked fags demand qp have their 1 hero each rules
>Blizzard puts in no limits but regularly takes it away so people who enjoyed the game as it was at release just get to suck a fat one
They went balls deep on esports. Glad it's failing.

>>383551817
That's what sprinting looks like.

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>>383542034
Finally a non sexist hero shooter will reclaim its place, fuck yeah! feminism is awesome!!!

>>383551664
Le mirror edge character

>>383546620
Sjw pandering by making him a black Nigerian and not a white european

>>383550663
F2P made it peak at around 1500 players but it slowly trickled down because the only people that know or care about Battleborn are Borderlandsfags. Then they leave because they never asked for or wanted to play a MOBA ASSFAGGOTS.

>>383551995
At least they didn't make him a black "European"?

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>>383542034
Why battleborn failed?
It features a diverse array of characters. The creative director, Randy Varnell, has confirmed a number of diverse sexualities within the roster, including Reyna (bisexual), Shayne (gay), Mellka (exploring her sexuality), and Kelvin (asexual)

>>383552435
What does sexuality have to do with the way a FPS game feels?
Fucking gearbox man

>>383552435
You are retarded

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>>383552591
Its _____BADASS_____

>>383552435
>randy varnell
>randy pitchford
both are shit

The international is the only fun esport to even watch. Everything else just fucking blows

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>>383552591
It's okay when Blizzard does it.

>>383546430
>its worse
not really
>>383546430
>P2W
retard alert

>>383552868
I'll never get why diversity triggers kids

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overwatch pro scene never even got viewers...fucking Halo had more viewers lmao. It was only alive because Blizzard threw money around...fucking big teams like TSM fucking sponsored that failure instead of sponsoring a fighting game player for Street Fighter

>>383553007
Diversity doesn't trigger me, it's the way they use it to comercialize their bland game.

>>383547373
>NS2
First one was better

>>383552435
>all three of the lesbians look like dykes
>the asexual one is an ice golem
>no gay men
bravo gearbox

>>383542034

Fuck the pro scene, what a bunch of insufferable faggots, video games are for fun and if you're not playing them for that you're a fucking idiot.

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>>383543396

a free game btfo blizzard and did it nine years before SuicideWatch even released

pic related

>>383551664
Is she rapping while running?

>>383552894
>shilling a game that requires you to devote a lot of time to even have fun with all the heroes

Overwatch is never going to be a proper esport. Blizzard can throw money at it to make it look like it's one but it will die the instant they stop throwing money at it. Spectating is a mess, low skill ceiling and shit balancing are killing it

Might have been a fun casual game if it was a 12v12 (or more) on bigger maps

>>383542034
>pro players are threatening to quit

Isn't this something that happens perpetually in all competitive online games at all times?

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>bought OW because I was bored
>somehow made me even more bored
>download Paladins and enjoy it because i can make builds and there is no press q to insta kill people

>>383543840
In DotA you have to consistently win to make money.

In LoL as long as you are in a decent region (Korea or NA) you'll get a decent salary and tournament winnings are just a bonus.

>>383542034
blizzard just needs to fucking riase the skill ceiling

in a game like tf2, quake, or cs you can kill the entire enemy team by yourself through sheer skill alone (better aim, better positioning, better awareness)

but in overwatch, someone can fuck you over by simply pressing a single button. its not that you messed up, its that they just managed to press the right button at the right time and now you're dead, an undeserved unrewarding kill that fucked you over for perpetually no reason at all

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>>383554190
https://www.esportsearnings.com/players

Seems like only some gook named Faker is making any money being a pro lol player.

>>383547064

Problem is both those games started grass roots and grew. Blizzard is just trying to start at the top with a half functioning foundation.

>>383554042
They really fucked up with the ultimates, there was no fucking need

>>383553212
Tbh sounds like it triggers you but you look for an excuse to be less retarded

>>383545917
Black Desert is on the first page, because summit streamed it for a week, then promptly dropped it after being handed best shit.

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>>383554318
You're paid 70k by Riot and whatever else you get from your organization/sponsors. That ensures a living even if you are dogshit at the game.

>>383554870
>70k is enough for a living
Assuming you don't live in a coastal state or a major European city

>>383542148
>>383542309
Gigantic is coming out this month for Steam also. I'm going to be playing that, TF2, and Paladins.

>>383555309
They don't pay rent though, they live in their gaming houses from the orgs. Also those 70k are only from Riot, they also get paid from team icons/sponsors/org salary, most pros in the NA LCS already get paid more than 100k. Even the ones on the bottom teams like Liquid get paid more than that because of their contracts to the orgs.

>>383547749
t.
>Bronze and proud
>Sub 2k MMR
>Silver I

>>383553839
>buy founder pack for like 1/4 the price of overwatch
>have all the current and future characters free
The currency grind for cards is a bit rough but they're making it easier in this week's update too. You definitely don't need anything beyond the default loadout to have fun with the characters though.

>>383554042
>and there is no press q to insta kill people
There definitely is, it just requires more skill and has easier counterplay thanks to more mobility abilities.

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>>383542034
>there's people who believed Overwatch e-sport was meant to last

You dumb fucks fall for every marketing moves

>>383556302
That pic really makes me think.

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>>383543086
>shoving SJW shit down players' throats?

I can dream, right?

>>383546903
Blizzard makes over seven gorillian dollars every month from wow subscriptions.
It's a wonder they don't use it for toilet paper by now.

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KEEP BULLYING RANDY!!!!!!

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>>383556890
>It's a wonder they don't use it for toilet paper by now.
>HURRRRR DURRRRR
Why the fuck would they? It has actual value, toilet paper is still extremely cheap that would be ruining and wasting the money you fucking moron.

>>383557142
fuuuuuck dude reading this post was actually painful, surely nobody is this socially incapable and autistic

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>>383557073
Somehow bullying randy isn't fun anymore because it's just the same screen caps being posted over and over again. Get some new material or wait till he does something stupid again.

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>>383557142

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>>383557142
Anon..

>>383557198
Fucking GOOGLE IT if you don't believe me. You can get 6 Mega-rolls of Charmin Ultra Soft for $10.30 and that is just for high-end brands. Blizzard has enough money to afford toilet paper and there isn't any reason to waste it using the money as toilet paper. Nobody fucking does that because then nobody would want the money if you tried to spend it. Are YOU retarded? Seriously. fucking think for one second.

>>383557442
ok thats enough mister your ruse cruise is over

>>383543086
Stale a fuck meta only encouraging one way to play through the whole year

The entire fucking defense class is rendered useless in pro play because they can't do shit about dive comps

2 supports always become must pick (one always being Lucio) making the other supports pointless

All the maps use the same dive tactic because deathballing runs the game

>>383552868
Blizzard uses sexuality to expand lore and show the home life of characters to provide depth

>>383552435
Does Battleborn have characters or depth, or are the sexually diverse just to say that they are sexually diverse?

Also, to be clear, NEITHER OF THESE GAMES ARE ABOUT FUCKING PEOPLE SO WHO GIVES A SHIT

No reason to play OW when you can play their heroes in League

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sn9q6qks-A

>>383542034
I'll just play the new Quake since it's the only one of these MOBA FPS games to actually require skill.

If Randy was not a white male, y'all would have blamed his/her minority status for the game being so shit. Possibly even started a harassment campaign.

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>>383558053

>MOBA FPS
>MOBA

>>383551664

why do so many people use "worst" when it's suppose to be "worse" ?

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>>383558067

>>383543607
What's with the middle square? Does Blizzard have their own team and did they drop out?

>>383558816

It's the Free spot of the bingo chart.

>>383558067

Too fucking bad. You would have LOVED it if he were a minority. So you can deflect. But he's not, so he has to take it like a bitch.

>>383558479
Trump can't talk that coherently.

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>>383556302
people believed for honor is going to be big and on the e-sports scene as well

>>383542148
Paladins is shit. I can't believe anyone plays that garbage. Please, if you're going to play one or the other battleborn is actually leagues ahead.

>>383557142
>that would be ruining and wasting the money you fucking moron.
>Implying you can't pay with shitty money

>>383561042
Maybe. But unlike Battleborn, Paladins actually has people still playing it.