why did people think this was the hardest game ever back in 2011?

marketing.

because people needed a reason for not liking it and sucking

>>383483007
Anyone got the roll pic for choosing a character? Was wanting to play again.

I was under the impression it was still the hardest game ever. Is there a new hard game that normies are flipping out over?

>>383483007
>it just punished you for mistakes

It was also full of beginners traps and ganks.

>>383483418
crash

>>383483007
Only tryhards that fell for the marketing actually believed that.
It's actually easier than many earlier action rpgs since it has good controls.

Try Die By the Sword.

>>383483380
Here you go.

>If your last number is between 1-9 play dark souls 1
>If dubs. you play Dark souls 2
>If trips you play Dark souls 3
>If anything over, play Bloodborne

Dark Souls was the Crash Bandicoot of ARPGs.

>>383483007
>just punished you for mistakes
modern games are usually very forgiving of your mistakes.
also a game SHOULD just punish you for your mistakes otherwise it's frustrating. Bloodborne beat my ass but I didn't feel frustrated with the game because I knew it was my fault every time (except for some camera issues on the clerical beast).

>>383483641
>Die By the Sword
mein Neger!

>>383483809
this

>>383483007

Casuals and journalists. Especially the journalists, but >>383483280 also had a lot to do with it. I mean, prepare to die? Fuck off.

Post comics, I miss those.

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>>383484170

Okay good, been meaning to replay this, might as well be now.

>>383483992

And Miyazaki. The Souls games WERE actually meant to be hard and were specifically designed so.

Why does everyone around here get so upset that games that were designed to be difficult are largely considered difficult?

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>>383484259

I don't think it's difficult. Upgrade your weapons, and level up and you'll be OP as shit. It's that simple. I just love the idea of organic difficulty.

>>383484259
I thought it was the opposite. Didn't Miyzaki say he wasn't thinking about difficulty when making Demon's Souls?

>>383483007
>why did people think this was the hardest game ever back in 2011
no

if you take your time the first playthrough isn't hard at all. i died basically 0 times after gargoyles, the game just demands more from the player than the standard modern game

>>383483641
That game came out like a decade too early.
It would've been the perfect Wii game the graphics were already there.

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>>383483007
>yeat another "Dark Souls is not hard you guys" thread

>>383484434
>Didn't Miyzaki say he wasn't thinking about difficulty when making Demon's Souls?

No. He said it is a hard game and it's meant to be hard but it's not hard for no reason, it's hard because that best suits the grimdark nature of the game. He just resented the idea of difficulty being the thing that defined the game rather than the universe he put so much effort into building.

>>383483007
DkS was fairly soft compared to Demon's Souls, which set you back at the start of the level each time you died, cut your max HP down even with a ring that gave some of it back, and made the stage harder if you chickened out and exited it.

In any case, games should punish you for mistakes, otherwise they're not mistakes. However that also doesn't mean a game should be frustratingly hard, for instance even in Demon's you kept any progress you made in terms of items or skills, and you could always farm for heals, it was just your currency and some max health that you lost between deaths.

>>383483418
Crash N. Sane trilogy

>>383484752
It unironically isn't, I think it just seems harder than it is

>>383484752
What he said >>383484902, DeS was one of the few games to really give me a rush when I finally managed to beat a boss and get to a new archstone, nowadays I can dance around naked and skewer most enemies without effort. While increasing levels and getting better gear can certainly help alleviate some lack of skill, being actually skilled is the difference between being hopelessly stuck and just shredding everything you pass.

>>383483007
hidden passage to get to a convenant, to get an item or a Crystal lizard for twinkling titanite
weapons with hidden stats (ex: artorias' broken sword can hit a bit harder if you use humanity, etc)
skipping shit like the first encounter with seath by platforming on the elevator
unless someone discovered it and shares it, no one knew how things worked in the game.

>>383483007
You answered your own question.

>>383484170
Rolling for dank souls

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>>383484170
>>383485695
>Bandit
>Magic
>Miracles+Pyromancy
>Chaos Servant
>Forest Hunter
>Warrior of Sunlight
>Black Firebomb
Literally too fucking easy

Rerolling

>>383485902
>Fist
there we go

>>383484241

>newfags won't get this pic