>armored core is now 20 year old >forgotten forever, r

>>383478256
dork souls is casual mainstream garbage, of course its going to do better than a niche game that's too complex for the vast majority of the player base.

Lowest common denominator

>>383478256
id gladly take robot souls if it meant we got another one.
remember playing 5 with friends all the time, called ourselves the 9breakers. +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoGMJHbV4Wk

What about a Souls game with mecha?

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>>383478256
I know brother ive always wanted another AC sequel really badly, but let's just hope for the best I hope it has fast in it to

>>383478451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-1-1oShi4w

>>383478437

i could never beat 9balls on the first armored core, it still haunts me when i think about it

DS is a much better game than armored core.

>>383478446
Why would you want to dumb down AC gameplay to appease soulsfags?

>>383478256
I remember playing the game on my PS1 Demo Disk.

>>383478579
1 is the only one i didnt play.
i know you could cheese through
2 with the backpack missles.

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>that final platforming level in the first Armored Core
>after hours of trying I finally make it to the top with hardly any health left
>mfw there's a boss room at the top

I turned the game off and never played it again.

I played 4 and 4A though, they were pretty cool, is V really that bad or is that just a meme? The intro is pretty neat.

>>383478945
V is resident evil 4 different.
its fun and has a rock paper scissors thing to it, changed up a lot of the core mechanics bdum tsk
last boss is 9 breaker tribute.

>>383478601
4 already did that

>>383478256
Is there like a list of recommended Armored Core games and where to start for someone who wants to get into the series?

>>383479093
reeeeee 4 was just trying to bring Ac to the next gen.
It was great and we got 4A thanks to it.

>>383478945
V and Verdict Day are trying to go back to the days of 3 and the PSP titles after all the GO FAST in 4 and 4A.

I personally think they did a reasonably good job but they could be better. The huge 1HK weapons are real dumb though. Too bad we'll never see a 6 which might make the best of all the lessons learned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uGGRj4f1Cc

damn had no idea u could go this fast. shame i havent owned a console in 11ish years

>>383479093
4 had some of the most complex gameplay

>Chain QBing
>2nd stage QBing
>Inertia and wight axis

Please stop pretending you actually know anything about the game

Only way to revive armored core is to make it about anime girls doing suffering__

I just want another AC game.

>>383479308
>the PSP titles
Are the PS2 versions just better or are the PSP ones fine? Wanted to try Armoured Core for a while but I don't own a PS2 yet

>>383479384
I still want Muv-Luv game with 4FA gameplay

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I wish they made Formula Front Online
it's 3rd gen combat and parts, you could've connected to other people to PvP (if it wasn't dead) and vs. COM would have been endless by using other peoples' ACs and AI (chips)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmPDQfRQ1XY

>>383479608
AC has always maaged to have top notch music and intros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAZV7X94UFA

>>383479791
No kidding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blK4Nhpd6rE

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>1997 was 20 years ago

>>383479512
PSP version takes a lot of getting used to since you're down a bunch of buttons but once you've gotten used to it it's really no worse other than screen resolution.

>>383479839
Back then when
Ravens reigned supreme and then lynxes showed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjIiwiZRrSQ

>calling a series trash just because it's popular

I seriously want to get into AC games, but people like you make fanbase look like obnoxious elitist fucks. Just like ones that ruined Souls and made it impossible to even mention the game without a massive shitstorm insuing.

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I'm legitimately depressed that we haven't seen a next-Gen armored core yet

>>383480017
Any of them you'd reccomend I start with? I remember hearing Last Raven is hard as balls, and that there are two different control schemes between the games and I think that one of them worked better on PSP than the other one did.

Didn't From say they were working on a new AC title.

>>383478256

GIVE ME AC SIX FROM SOFT YOU FUCKS

>>383480342
They did. If OP wasn't an obnoxious flaming faggot, he'd knew it.

>>383480342
i want to say yes but it seems more like a fever dream than reality.
also not to ruin any fun but at least you got sequels
WHo even owns the phantom crash ip? I dream of hitting the lotto and buying.

>>383479093
>Implying
Since 4 all the AC contutaions were fucking complex
>>383479496
I want a AC game with ACTUAL Multiplayer

armored core went down hill after silent line anyways. muh winged gundams flying around like dbz characters

>>383480415
>>383480342
No they didn't specifically set another AC they just cocked teased

>>383480509
0/10

Put more effort into your bait

>>383478256
armoured core wasn't really that good, so it never gained popularity

the game are consistently 7/10, that's hardly going to catch people's interest

>>383480509
Armored Core was always fast you underage poser faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXq58tcKJJA

Does it matter if I play Last Raven Portable over the PS2 version?

>>383480267
The gun looks way too heavy to be held from a single and fragile point like that. The fingers would be bent out of shape trying to hold it.

Also fucking chestspikes and dicks. Those knee spikes look like they would get in the way as well.

>>383480656
the controls is PSP version are much worse but if you are ok with them i guess not.

>>383480648
not to the point it is now. just get rid of the parts and put dbz characters in, its the same thing.

>>383480656
Portable has more parts and they buffed up enemies consideraby, especially Zinaida in her ending route which is just insane to beat even with exploits.

>>383480820
Either you are retarded or this is some failure attempt at bait, either way this is the last (you) you are getting.

>>383480929
you've obviously never played the games if you can't see the speed increasing after silent line.

>herpa derpa b8 XDD

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why is this thread so bad guys?

have a mechfu

>>383478256

isn't fromsoft confirmed to be making a new AC game? why are you ACfags upset?

Funny how things come full circle after a decade of an Armored Core being launched every fucking year

Here's to hoping 6 is more like 4A than poopy 5

>>383481831
Cock teasing=/= ACTUALLY announcing the new title

>>383481609
/v/ doesn't really play Armored Core, as yesterday's thread showed.
>>383481835
>Here's to hoping 6 is more like 4A than poopy 5
I'd rather want gen3 standards than the mess that was the 4 duology.
V/VD's problem outside of the terrible designs was the rock/paper/scissor damage and Scan/Combat mode, they just need to take those out and keep the rest.

>>383480267
There was some guy on YouTube making a fantastic looking remake of AC:4A gameplay in Unreal Engine 4, but I can't find any of his videos anymore, they seem to have been deleted.

Last I remember he was already changing the designs and UI to not be straight up AC4 so that Fromsoft wouldn't be pissed, maybe they weren't satisfied.

Did Fromsoft kill him?

>>383482270
>V/VD's problem outside of the terrible designs was the rock/paper/scissor damage and Scan/Combat mode, they just need to take those out and keep the rest.
What was so bad about them?

I never played either game.

>>383479093
This.
4 and 4a fags are a bunch of filthy casuals.
Anyone who thinks removing features makes the game more complicated deserves to be lynched.

I want more focus on single player and less online crap.

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>>383478446
Anytime anyone mentions that I just think of something like the WKC mechas.

>>383479093
FAgs are the absolute worst.

>>383482384
That guy even put up a demo of it but stopped everything after the confirmation of work on the next Armored Core game.

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>>383478579
I'm actually playing through AC1 right now and holy fuck Nineball is a fucking asshole.

>>383481835
>like 4A

Gay shit for babies.

>>383479791
https://youtu.be/vHNowFkW_RU

The real shit right here.

>>383480280
Last Raven or Silent Line, probably leaning toward Silent Line.

>>383478945
>playing Last Raven
>get to last mission
>one room with no cover and flying suicides everywhere
>barely make it
>go down tunnel
>fucking evangel on a destroyer
Jesus cut me some slack

>>383478945
I described the Nineball bossfight in AC1 to a Soulskiddo as
>solo fighting Ornstein in a pitchblack phone booth with no iframes, no estus, a stamina bar that takes 2 minutes to recharge, and you only have limited ammo items

>>383478256
I've only played AC 2 and 3 for PS2, and the control scheme is TERRIBLE to learn. After you learn how the strafing and aiming works with the weird move with triggers stuff, the game is fun and face paced, but until then you can barely clear the first missions.

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>>383483902
>>383483902

I only palyed those two as well.


>havent experienced the advanced mechanics and speed of the new gen ACs
>or the variety and numerous fun and useful additions in Nexus and Last Raven

feelsbadman.jpg

>>383483129
Why those two and why Silent Line over Last Raven if I may ask?

>>383483902

I thought 3 already had the updated controls scheme...

>tfw you remember when /v/ actually liked Dark Souls.

It truly is amazing how fast you people will hate something as soon as it's picked in any way by the mainstream. Stop being so fucking predictable. /v/ practically used to masturbate over Demon's Souls and the first Dark Souls, Reddit has nothing to do with it.

How suicidal am I for wanting to go as FAST as I can in Master of Arena, sacrificing AP and durability?

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>>383484379
Nope, that's Nexus and beyond.

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I honestly didn't care for 4 or 4A and never even got around to trying V. It feels like the magics gone. The fact that these are the most popular entries with most of the fans hurts because we'll probably never get another game in the vein of the older titles.

>>383483902
That's one thing about old AC I liked, overcoming the obtuseness kinda feels like what it really would if you try to pilot a machine like an AC.

When you start having fluid motion and you're complete a hard missions, it feels rewarding as hell.

>>383484220
Read the manga.

Last Raven is hard as fuck. One of the harder AC fights is in the third fucking mission.

>>383484384
the AC crowd is different from the Souls crowd you know

>>383484384
Nigga, I bought DeS day one and the souls community is garbage.

>>383484762
>One of the harder AC fights is in the third fucking mission.
Bolt is also pretty hard and he's the very first mission.

>>383484220
Last Raven and Silent Line (on PSP) have what I'd consider the widest variety of parts and customization options, and Last Raven has a pretty neat branching story. Both have neat mission variations which you'll only get if you absolutely shithouse the main mission objectives.

I said leaning toward Silent Line first because it comes first chronologically, it's easier, and is more traditional in levels and enemies/bosses where Last Raven starts getting a bit crazy a lot sooner with more skill check walls if you've taken certain story paths - likely to happen completely by accident.

>>383484948
I mean you don't have to start on that mission, but it really doesn't matter because he slaps everyone's shit regardless. It's also amusing because lorewise, he's an idiot who's just really good at AC piloting.

>>383484948
>>383485245
Bolt is hard. Until you find out the easy way to beat him.

>>383482440
The new damage standard in V/VD basically meant that while you were virtually, if not literally immune to one type of damage you'd be melted in seconds by another, which is bullshit compared to the balance of the previous games, then again, it was something mostly made for the new team based nature of the PVP in my opinion, and to some extent it kind of worked, kind of.
Scan Mode/Combat mode is another can of worms that made the game a total chore, Scan Mode gives you increased EN recovery, much more than Combat Mode ever will, moreover it lets you scan the surroundings for enemies, which Combat Mode does not, the catch is you can't use weapons at in in Scan Mode, so you're basically juggling between Scan Mode and Combat Mode through all the game, this is even more obnoxious in PVP, hence all the SCANMODECOMBATMODESCANMODECOMBATMODE memes, because it's that annoying.
>>383484391
Going fast is the de facto most efficient, yet hardest way to play through story mode of all ACs, not getting hit>>>>>>getting hit, however, it's not easy to do so, especially with the old PSX trilogy command layout and movement, but as long as you're determined it's doable.

>>383485540
That's the case with pretty much the entire game. There's a setup and a cheese tactic for every single mission. The fun is into finding it.

>>383484762
>>383484997
Silent line it is then probably, thanks.

>>383484948
>>383485540

Am I completely misremembering Rim Fire popping out WAY early if you wipe Bolt with little effort? Maybe that was a different early mission.

I don't think I'd forget getting turned into pulp by FINGERs when playing through LR for the first time.

>>383486339
Yes, even if you dont beat bolt you get the garage mission which makes you fight against genubi and then fucking rimjob fire. Its the second orthird mission iirc

>>383486339
>Am I completely misremembering Rim Fire popping out WAY early if you wipe Bolt with little effort?
That's the other mission. Where you first fight Zuben el Genubi.

After you defeat Bolt, Jack-O appears in a cutscene.

>>383486339
No, that was someone else. Forgot name, but he had a reverse joint AC that seem to like hopping around the battlefield.

>>383478256
There's literally like 40 fucking Armored Core games you idiot

>>383486339
>Am I completely misremembering Rim Fire popping out WAY early if you wipe Bolt with little effort
Ream Fire pops up in a certain route after you kill Zuben El Genubi in the same mission, Bolt dies like a faggot in all routes without Ream Fire having anything to do with him.

>>383480790
I'm playing it on the Vita, if that makes any difference.
>>383480920
Neat. I'll be getting my ass kicked, I guess.

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>claims something is great
>posts some dadcore eurodance ear smegma

I just want to play the arena and make a cool looking mech. Story mode was always too hard for me... I might be autistic, but I'd spend hours putting together fun builds that weren't practical

>>383487743
post ur builds

Are we in prime time "le everyting suxX xD" hours? Can Reddit please leave?????

>>383487743
If you have issues with story mode do like me and get tank threads and load a fucking double shoulder plasma cannon on it with either 2 snipers or 2 high powered energy weapons. Have fun shitting on anything that doesnt fly too much or strafes at your sides.

>>383482837
>He comes back in 2AA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>383486678
Fuck that guy and fuck his machineguns.
>Get too far - get rekt by missiles.
>Get too close - get shredded by FINGERs
>If you try to outlast him, he pulls out DUAL SHOULDER MOUNTED CHAINGUNS
Even number 1 in arena wasn't that bullshit, mostly because he won't fly if you don't.

>>383487939
Shit, I haven't played one since 3, I can barely remember. One of my favorite was the fastest hover legs I could find, with some dual energy shotgun arms and the most missiles I could fit, going balls out for 20 seconds until I ran out of ammo. I had my more serious stuff for the last few arena matches but I can't remember much about them at all. I wish I still had a ps2 I want to finish trying to get all the human + parts

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>>383478256
My first Armored Core game was Last Raven (besides playing III at a friends house). Holy hell I was not prepared at all. Fucking RImshot

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>tfw using BIG MISSILES online in acvd and FA

>>383488503
>get tank threads
That's the best way to die in LR tho.
>>383488656
You can totally go toe to toe with Rimfire in a frontal fight, but you need to know how to dodge its FINGERS and also how to aim at the same time, pretty satisfying to beat him in a face to face duel though.
Rimfire has two big weaknesses, one is his inability to do anything against vertical missiles, the other is is nonexistent turning speed and the fact that he needs to get close to you to truly hurt you, meaning you can easily outmaneuver him and shoot him in the back if you are a SPEEDY SPEED BOY, his missiles should be a non issue, especially due to the enviroment you fight him in.

Not saying it's an easy fight, but it's very exploitable if you're a bit skilled, Crow's fight during the USM rain though, that's really a casual filter if you don't know how to dodge and aim consistently.

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>>383489040
>tfw using dumbfire missiles and actually hitting someone with them in 4A

>>383489126
I ended up beating Rim Fire by sitting at the very edge of the range he'd fire his FINGERs at and just zipping back and forth a bunch until he ran out of ammo and then just unloaded on him with my own dual MGs.

>>383489126
Ive effectively 80% LR with tank threads since I make use of cover and do peek&hide shots if allowed, also I kinda got used to aiming with the dual plasma so I can land shots most of the time even if not completely locked in. Im not saying you'll beat everything with it but nothing beats ending up a fight in lass than 10 seconds because you landed 3 shots.

>>383482629
I've never met someone else who has played this. I actually liked this game quite a bit. Though now that I think about it, it may have just been the drought of mecha and lame jrpgs for me at the time.

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>>383489040
>mfw we watched some shit team try to easy wipe with OWs and saw one desperately launch the OW missile and he got dual fisted by me and another AC using Pile bunkers.

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>>383487939
I just have a pic of my cheese build.

>>383489510
I was referring to the Big missiles that move slow as fuck, but track you for a long ass time and have an insane amount of damage and splash effect.

armored core is that game i always wanted to play, but i was too poor for games and consoles.

i always played the shit out of the demos.
Earthsiege and Starsiege were my jam. Starsiege got me into psy-goa music.

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>>383489485
I played it but only mostly liked it for how the mechs looked, never got to play online.

>>383489732
TITANs were always great. Especially watching people try to out maneuver them

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Is there any AC pilot more butthurt than pic related? He was willing to end the world just to take a shot at you

>>383489752
Starsiege and Armored Core were my childhood

How do I git gud at AC2? I feel like no matter what I'm not quite playing it right. (I complete missions with my AC taking a ton of damage and almost all my ammo gone).

>>383490414
>(I complete missions with my AC taking a ton of damage and almost all my ammo gone).
Stop doing this.
You're gud at AC2 now.

>>383479961
ZOMG I'M SO OLD RIGHT

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>>383489935
From the AI's pov.

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>>383478256
I want my pre-Souls Fromsoft back

So did they do nothing for their 20th anniversary?

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>>383490829
TOO LATE

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>>383490829
They were a lot more experimental, that's for sure. I really miss when they took a leap of faith in unique mechanics and ideas and stuck with them until the end.

>>383490932
Nope. Why bother with dead franchises when you could be working on the next Souls game?

>>383489156
Really was disappointed at how weak those were in FA since you could get missile launchers and dumbfire them all the same.

Where does a noob start with the Armored core franchise?

How do I git gud in the first Armored Core? Enemy projectiles seem to hit me even when dashing and strafing, and the controls layout isn't helping at all.

>>383479139
Do you want NuCore MAN SO ANIME gottagofast style?

Then start with 4, then move on to 4A, then consider V/Verdict Day.

Do you want Classic Core, which is much more grounded and deliberate? Then start with 2 or 3 and proceed to their expansions (Another Age/Silent Line).

From there, if you want more deliberated play, go back to the OG playstation trilogy (1/Phantasma/Master of Arena), whereas if you want more boost-oriented and meta-centric gameplay, move on to the 3.5-gen games (Nexus, Ninebreaker, Last Raven)

Will there be a new armored core on ps4 anytime soon

>>383491709
Pick any of the PS2/PSP ones if you want to emulate and aren't going to cry about the graphics.

Otherwise pick up Verdict Day on PS3 as it's the closest to the traditional games while also being a modern title. 4 and 4A are completely different and much faster, meaning most AC fights end up being like Dragonball battles.

>>383492151
Only a slight nod in a future souls or borne game.

>>383491810
You get some fast legs and a decent booster and get gud at timing your jinks.

>>383492151
You're going to get your shitty souls games and you're going to fucking like it

>>383492427
I'm importing my old AC save to Master of Arena. Karasawa or Laser Rifle for sanic AC? I want to get gud and experiment with various builds afterwards. I only hope I'll have enough bucks by then.

>>383492151
Supposedly miyazaki confirmed a new one was being made.

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>>383478256
>>forgotten forever
There's literally a new one in dev right now you retard

>>383492645
That was a mistranslation, he said he wanted to do a mecha game and even then he said he wanted to do a medieval mecha game

>>383492645
>Miyazaki was the head for 4/4a
Fuck.

>>383492674
Got any proof of that? Because they have not filed for copyright or gave literally any indication at all they are making a game, with every single Souls game they made they gave some actual indication that they were infact making a game, there is no such thing for any new AC

>>383492620
Machine guns or Sawa.

Usually for a basic light AC, I'd go with just an MG or laser rifle with a decent ammo size and a small missile launcher.

>>383492720
Well fuck that faggot.

Also fuck captcha.

>>383480779
>The gun looks way too heavy to be held from a single and fragile point like that.

Stop bringing real life logic to vidya. Just enjoy large robot with larger gun.

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>>383478256
>series is a niche trash shit for turbonerds
>'le its dark souls fault!!1' strawman

>>383493748
armored core was probably most well known From Software franchise before souls tho
not that I expect faggot who know jack about videogames to know shit

>>383493748
It's dark souls fault namco picked up From and shat on ACV and VD.

>>383493418
The second best part is that that gun is actually pretty fucking tame compared to some of the shit 4a had.

>>383492720
>medieval mecha
i dont understand

>>383479093
>Armored Core 4 released in 2006
>Demon's Souls released in 2009
Fucking moron

>>383493748
>niche trash
>proceeds to make a literal casualfest as their main gameline
Oh yeah, totally not DS fault

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>>383493936
what's so hard to udnerstand anon
magic and shiet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gasJewwN8o

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>>383493936
ESCAFLOWNE / FRAME GRIDE

>>383494013
The joke was that 4 was really easy.

>>383493936
Miyazaki gets all his ideas directly from anime and there was a recent anime about medieval mecha.

>>383480541
Yes they did lol. Fucking quick google search you moron.

>Armored Core
>A game that "will probably comply with the expectations from the fans in straightforward manner."
>VR, "weird" title

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/21/from-software-working-on-3-games-one-of-which-is-armored-core?abthid=57e287075a178f5c40000006

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/1558969/from-software-has-3-games-in-development-none-of-them-sound-like-dark-souls

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>>383493936

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>>383482837
>>383488601
stopped playing MoA because i can get through a part where you have to fight 2 Nineballs at once on the last mission.

>>383479359
or like KA ratings, 4 and especially 4a added a different depth to the game, only cancer was in 4 with dual BR's and 4a having blading as a super viable thing

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>>383494464
>two nineballs

>>383492154
I'll start with AC2 then, thanks anon.

>>383494592
The main problem with 4th gen is that the existence of QB immediately obsoleted like 90% of the weapons in the game. Anything under X projectile velocity was trash garbage that would never, ever be useful in any situation.

Not that the games didn't have meta before, before at least the meta wasn't so goddamned narrow. And it didn't bleed over into the SP portion and shit all over the viability of otherwise-fun builds for the campaign.

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>>383494605
man that's way too much CG

>>383479359
Energy management basically wasn't even a factor though. Heat wasn't even in the game and you didn't need to overboost cancel.

>>383495174
Don't bother arguing with 4/4A fans. They believe that the mechanical skill of pressing certain buttons in a prescribed order and timing to perform game-breaking tricks that obviate the need for anything else is better than managing movement and resources. It's a religious divide sort of thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Ex5WBzM2c

what are you talkin about m8 AC is alive and well

>>383494464
He doesn't know.

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>>383492720
>medieval Armored Core
Meh, it's been done... by From themselves.

Is this the mecha thread?

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>>383497882
may as well be one

>>383496446
Frame Gride reboot confirmed for brawl.

>>383500308
Damn, these were cool as shit back then.
I miss the mail system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFjdd_0rkRs

>>383500903

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ykG6lle8w
Step aside, sonny.

tfw no new mecha strategy games coming out soon other than battletech but it hasnt been confirmed outside of just in 2017

>>383502570
So you already played thru SD Gundam G Generation Genesis and SRW V?

>>383502570
Wasn't there a true mechwarrior 5 coming out some time soon? or is that what you're talking about

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>>383502758
I dont have a ps4 or vita

>>383502810
what I'm talking about is battletech by harebrained schemes, but there is a mechwarrior 5 coming out at some point, though that definitely isnt gonna be this year at all and its like MWO from the trailer they showed

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>>383502848
SD Gundam G Generation Overworld [PSP] was recently fully translated - emulate that, you poor soul.

TGS REVEAL WHEN
GIVE ME IT

>>383502848
>Likes mecha
>Doesn't have a Vita
Shit son, what are you doing?

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>>383503596
Vita is dead anon, PS4 is where it is at.
also Vita doesn't have delicious Moon Dweller crabsticks

>>383503045
I'll give it a try but I'm looking for robos that aren't super robos

>>383503596
I just haven't wanted to buy one

Git in here famzos

>>>/wg/6963189

>>383503754
>Vita is dead anon
Yeah yeah, I've been hearing this for six years straight and it's still getting games and exclusives.
>Vita doesn't have delicious Moon Dweller crabsticks
Doesn't look like a loss to me.
>>383503881
I shit you not, outside of PC it's the current platform with the most mecha games on it.

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>>383503881
>I'll give it a try but I'm looking for robos that aren't super robos
Just make team out of GMs and Zaku, no one forces for you to use overpowered experimental suits, they are minority anyway
http://ggen.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Units_in_G_Generation_Overworld
>>383504043
what it gets is shovelware I won't even waste my traffic on. and badly made ports
I have it. It was nice Disgaea and Muramasa machine. That's about it.
even indie devs don't care about it anymore.

>>383503754
Only if you're a Amerifat that has the worst tastes in gaming

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>>383504335
>being so proud of compile hearts game exclusives which is most of what Vita is getting
they are trash

>>383504043
well I'll look into it then and see what it has

>>383504194
oh nice, didn't know if it was more SRW with characters basically being locked to certain mechs

>>383504335
Moeshit is not good taste.

>>383502758
>SRW V
>Strategy

Just smash Attack, Senpai. SRW is "strategy" in format only, the actual strategy involves picking whichever mech makes you weeb out the most and dumping all your resources into it so it can effortlessly solo every map.

Front Mission died for this, and it makes me mad as hell.

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>>383504194
>what it gets is shovelware
So Aegis Rim, Macross Delta Scramble or SRW V are shovelware?
>even indie devs don't care about it anymore.
Then why are they keeping on publishing games on it and making even physical editions?

Who's looking forward to all the Reddit-tier Souls kiddies jumping on the Armored Core bandwagon and From inevitably announces a new game?

>"I was a fan along I love Armored Core! I totally just didn't just watch my favorite Youtuber explain the entire series to me!"

Going to be fucking obnoxious

How is the emulation of PS3 SRW titles nowadays?

RPCS3 seems to be doing decently and they're mostly 2D games, after all.

>>383504621
Well, yeah. They're still fun games because they're about geeking out and deliver in spades.

What is that about FM, though? Why would SRW hav any impact on FM whatsoever?

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>>383504516
>oh nice, didn't know if it was more SRW with characters basically being locked to certain mechs
I mostly play G Gen Genesis now, it has complete freedom in everything, but lacks in story department - just your separate UC stuff, when Overworld has actual storyline. Dunno about how much pilots tied to suits tho, I yet to play it a lot cause focusing on Genesis
Genesis released eng ver almost at the same time when fantransated patch rolled out
>>383504621
Front Mission died from Evolved, don't bring Banpresto into this.
Yeah, SRW is very easy strategy, even SD Gundam G gives more challenge, but it still a strategy game with top tier fanservice. Anyone really knows that but that doesn't really means you should not check it out.
>>383504826
>game we know nothing about, and which will probably get ps4 port
>Macross 30 is better
>port

>>383504845
They'd have to make something radically different to what was made previously to have even a hair of a chance at achieving mainstream audience for AC.

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>>383495896
>2118
seems like a realistic release date at this point, also it looks like it's going back to 4A style, but slightly toning down the speed, not that I minded PVP against japs going lightspeed sanic

>>383504826
forgot to reply to this
>Then why are they keeping on publishing games on it and making even physical editions?
easy few bux on the table from people like you. Chroma Squad port cancelled, PS+ "free" indie garbage can't even maintain 30 fps, people moving on Switch instead.
fine, if you want to call this life support for console in come as being alive - your choice

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>>383504956
>Moving the goalposts

>it looks like it's going back to 4A style
Anon, it's a fan video.

>>383505118
I said it gets either shovelware exclusives or ports. I stand by that.
Fine, you can yell gotcha on macross delta, I forgot about it cause macross is dead since Frontier,
including frontier

>>383504858
Square stopped making FM games because they didn't sell all that well. They briefly tried to change it with Evolved, but that crashed and burned (and rightly so).

Meanwhile SRW sells like hotcakes, because while it's a VASTLY inferior game, it lets you play with your favorite Gundams and Mazingers and Getters and has big bouncing moe titties.

Not directly related? But when a person can only buy one game, apparently they don't buy the one with depth and actual strategy.

>>383505236
>comparing pure fanservice niche sRPG with completely different sRPG
it's two different target audiences, you prove it by yourself cause you prefer FM over SRW

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>>383481056
>Going Fast=DBZ

>Playing AC4A, trying to clear all missions (norm).
>Last mission line is allying with Old King
>Get shit on repeatedly during Occupation of arteria carpals
>Move on from the game for a year.
>Get the urge to play it again prior to 5s release
>Beat it on second try

Felt good, even for a casual. Even though the localization of the game made it stiff as hell, I liked reading up on all the background of the characters.

>>383505236
>Meanwhile SRW sells like hotcakes

You're really blowing things out of proportion.
http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars/Sales_Data

Also, just because Neptunia does well doesn't mean Tales is fucked. Front Mission had problems elsewhere.

>>383505116
>Chroma Squad port cancelled
So one indie game being cancelled is enough to call a console dead for you?
>PS+ "free" indie garbage can't even maintain 30 fps
Who are you quoting?
>people moving on Switch instead
People? Who?
If anything they're moving on PC, like they should.
>>383505236
>Meanwhile SRW sells like hotcakes
What?
The average sales from a SRW are 200K-400K, that isn't selling like hotcakes at all.

>>383478256
AC isn't good. There's a reason why it died while Souls was a actual success.

>All these people interested in Japanese mecha
>When the games were coming out none of (You) bought them
>Now that they're gone everyone wants them back


You're all the blame for this. You didn't like them back then so why would you like them now? And I'm not talking about (You) few who did buy them. The Armored Core community and mecha in general outside of Japan is niche as fuck.

>>383480342
They said they were working on armored souls

>>383505570
>So one indie game being cancelled is enough to call a console dead for you?
one decentish indie I was interested and made sense for handheld, and it's cancelled. fuck that
>Who are you quoting?
myself, I got PS+ cause of Gundam Versus and tried some of crap which was "free" on Vita.
What a pile of garbage.
>people moving on Switch instead
devs. seems like ports on switch will replace ports on vita sooner than later.

>>383505570
>The average sales from a SRW are 200K-400K, that isn't selling like hotcakes at all.
That's pretty much selling like hotcakes for niche JP game tho.

>>383478256
https://twitter.com/butasanP/status/883995472448311296

>>383505587
I bought two copies of Moon Dwellers [LE] and SRW V, only one copy of SD Gundam G Gen Genesis and Gundam Breaker 3 tho, planning to get Gundam Versus in west for sure, maybe two copies as well.

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>>383504956
>when Overworld has actual storyline
Not much of one. Most of the story is just events happening as they did in the shows, but with characters and events from other shows popping up and happening at the same time and everyone pretty much acts like it's normal.

>Dunno about how much pilots tied to suits tho
Not at all. Anyone can pilot anything. You can stick bridge bunnies and politicians in mobile suits and have them fight if you want, just don't expect them to have in-battle voiced lines. And obviously certain people are going to have stats more suited to certain mobile suits, but there's no hard lock on who can use what.

>>383506023
I hope it is not VR garbage.

>>383505725
Sounds like you are just butthurt about one Tokushit indie port that got cancelled and Gundam Versus when there's more than that on Vita, that's your problem, but you can't say that the console is dead when there's stuff like the Virtual On crossover game announced, Aegis Rim and other stuff like the Romancing SaGa 3 remaster coming soon, the Vita is covered up to 2018 and still has the largest mecha library of any console at the moment.
>>383505829
Depends, for really small devs with actually niche franchises like A+ or FuRyu those are pretty amazing sales, for stuff like SRW? Not really, you'd think the fact that it features so many franchises would help them push at least half a million easily, and yet it hardly gets to 400K on a sunny day, and OG sells even worse.
Then again, mechs are unpopular nowadays, it's all about waifus and shit.

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>>383506217
>Not much of one. Most of the story is just events happening as they did in the shows, but with characters and events from other shows popping up and happening at the same time and everyone pretty much acts like it's normal.
huh, for some reason I thought it's more of SRW story when I heard comparison to G Genesis, sorry about mis info then
>Not at all. Anyone can pilot anything. You can stick bridge bunnies and politicians in mobile suits and have them fight if you want, just don't expect them to have in-battle voiced lines. And obviously certain people are going to have stats more suited to certain mobile suits, but there's no hard lock on who can use what.
Fuck yeah, Bright gonna be my ace when I get to it.

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>>383506272
This just reminded me of steel battalions shitty kinect sequel. fuck me

>>383506395
>Sounds like you are just butthurt about one Tokushit indie port
Fine, I'm salty a bit about it. cause I looked forward for new srpg on vita.
>Gundam Versus when there's more than that on Vita,
I have VS Force and it's shit
>you can't say that the console is dead when there's stuff like the Virtual On crossover game announced, Aegis Rim and other stuff like the Romancing SaGa 3 remaster coming soon, the Vita is covered up to 2018 and still has the largest mecha library of any console at the moment.
I don't have high hopes for romancing saga cause it's initially a mobile game.
everything else will have almost certainly better PS4 version. and none of those will profit from being on a handheld cause playing on big screen will be much better.
I still consider it's life support but not being alive. Ports of worse resolution and framerate are not something to be excited about

>>383505587
I only got interested in mecha within the last 7 years, I'm sorry

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>>383506395
>Depends, for really small devs with actually niche franchises like A+ or FuRyu those are pretty amazing sales, for stuff like SRW? Not really
can you feed me numbers? I never compared SRW games, but one time I compared SD Gundam GGG with earlier games, seemed on par between PSP release of earlier game and summary of PS4 +Vita sales of GGG

>>383507075
It's fanmade video, MMD is software for animation
it's fucking nothing

>>383503596
you mistyped PSP

>>383507246
>I have VS Force and it's shit
Then play GB3 my nigga, or Delta Scramble, or put Triangle Frontier on that shit, or the Ghiren Greed games, or Battle Robot Damashii, or the Damascus Gears games, I don't know man.
>I don't have high hopes for romancing saga cause it's initially a mobile game.
It's the full remaster of a cult SNES game with proper controls, why do you have to be so negative? It's made by the same people who made the DQVII and VIII ports on the 3DS, what does the mobile part have to do with anything when handhelds gets indieshit to begin with? You diss a good game because it has a mobile version?
>and none of those will profit from being on a handheld cause playing on big screen will be much better.
Well, for me they do, because I travel and commute a lot, but I'm more of a handheld guy than you, so I get what you mean here.
>>383507564
>can you feed me numbers?
Refer to Akurasu in here>>383505448
As you can see general SRW sales declined steadily since the first Z game, the Z series itself got worse sales as it went on.
And that's not really because of the platform mind you, it's just that mecha isn't as popular as it used to be.
Of course Banpresto are shooting themselves in the foot with X-Omega being full of fanservice and a mobile game, which prints them more money than any actual SRW in a week, tough times my friend.
>>383508279
PSP is dead and Vita can play all of its game, emulate stuff better and play its own library.

https://twitter.com/butasanP/status/883995472448311296

>>383508391
it's MMD fan animation
>>383508365
>PSP is dead and Vita can play all of its game, emulate stuff better and play its own library.
meh, I like pixel perfect PSP screen better.

>>383508391
>april 1 2118
Well, time to get the antifreeze

>>383508365
>Then play GB3 my nigga,
I play it on my PS4. Going thru newtype difficulty atm
>Delta Scramble
Well maaaaybe, Delta was pretty meh, so not so interested in tie ins
>Triangle Frontier, Ghiren Greed, Battle Robot Damashii
I'll get it on my PSP
>Damascus Gears
I honestly was interested in this, but gameplay looked so bland, I kinda became indifferent.
>It's the full remaster of a cult SNES game with proper controls, why do you have to be so negative?
Because hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. Less excitement there is, more pleasant surprise there is at the end.
>Well, for me they do, because I travel and commute a lot, but I'm more of a handheld guy than you, so I get what you mean here.
Yeah, I work from home so I guess my perspective on Vita is a bit twisted than from normal handheld user.

I've only played Another Age. What are some good ACs?

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>>383508365
>As you can see general SRW sales declined steadily since the first Z game, the Z series itself got worse sales as it went on.
>And that's not really because of the platform mind you, it's just that mecha isn't as popular as it used to be.
>Of course Banpresto are shooting themselves in the foot with X-Omega being full of fanservice and a mobile game, which prints them more money than any actual SRW in a week, tough times my friend.
Yeah, a bit less than I expected but it's not as disastorious as NIS situation at least. I hope they'll manage thru.
thanks for link, missed that.
please no more Cross Omega only streams, it's more painful to watch each one with hope of new SRW announcement crushed.

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>>383506816
>Fuck yeah, Bright gonna be my ace when I get to it.
>not having Bright lead a group with squad 1 lead by Bright and squad 2 led by Bright

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>>383509575
I like your style anon

>>383505587
Because the games were hard and /v/ hates real challenges. Blame Americans, blame /v/, blame SJWs faggots who can't actually game.

>>383508981
Silent Line
Nexus
Last Raven
Ninebreaker
For Answer
Don't listen to the faggots Verdict Day is good it's just the most recent one so /v/ things is "lol so funnay xD" to hate it.

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>>383509826
Found the perfect teams for them to lead too.

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>>383510406
Perfect

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>>383508391
>April 1st joke
>On fucking June

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>>383510406
Now go and complete mission with those

>>383508981
AC2, though it'll be a touch weird going backwards on that gen.

AC3/Silent Line, just start with Silent Line unless you like AC a lot, then start with 3.

Nexus/Ninebreaker/Last Raven are "3.5 gen"; they tweak some mechanics from 3rd gen and redo the controls to something more familiar to typical twin-stick shooter games. Play them if you thought the controls in 2 were too obtuse for you. Be warned though, Ninebreaker is a totally different AC game focused on trial challenges, and Last Raven is balls-to-the-wall hardmode designed mainly for longtime series veterans.

If you REALLY like AC, go back to the original Playstation trilogy at some point, but be ready for it to be rough around the edges.

4th gen (4/For Answer) is contentious. Either you love it or you hate it. Mostly has to do with whether you started on it or not.

5th gen (V/Verdict Day) Is a weird kind of middle ground between 4th gen and older gens. Less SANIC FAST, though still more than oldskool, but also with this weird Rock/Paper/Scissors damage model that was built with the squad-based multiplayer in mind.

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What's wrong with Dark Souls and Bloodborne?

>>383512117
they don't have giant robots
also because of very short time between releases and re-releases it feels that Form does nothing but them.

is there a way to make SYURA arms not suck in Nexus?

>>383513330
No. They're a meme for showing off. They tried changing it up with the portable version but they still suck.

You're better off with a parry blade and a moonlight.

>>383513463
Well shit. Thanks anyway.
On that note, are there any weapon arms in the series that are actually worth taking? I've only played 3 and Nexus, but every time I looked at weapon arms they just seem vastly inefficient.

>>383508870
>Well maaaaybe, Delta was pretty meh, so not so interested in tie ins
I don't like Delta either but you can use other VFs and pilots, not as many as Triangle Frontier, which has the best cast of all Macross games so far, but it's mechanically much better and looks pretty good too.
>I'll get it on my PSP
Look onto the Carnage Heart games too since you're at it, if you like building mechs with their own algorythms it's top tier, it's pretty much UNACs tier, although it's a radically different type of game from AC.
>but gameplay looked so bland
First one isn't so good, the second is a great diablolike, the catch is it looks a bit worse for some reason, but there's triple the content and much needed tweaks to everything, it's not what I would call an amazing 10/10 mecha game, but it's still pretty fun if you like diablolikes and the customization and part designs is not bad at all.
>Because hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
Don't give me that, the remaster for 2 was a success, it sold more than 200K on Vita alone and the reception for both that and the new mainline is very positive too, 2 is actually one of the titles with the best feedback on the Vita PSN too, and Scarlet isn't far behind, which bodes well for the series too.
>>383509225
>a bit less than I expected but it's not as disastorious as NIS situation at least
NIS fucked up by putting everything they had on Disgaea and not expanding on all the IPs they had like Soul Nomad, ZHP or Phantom Brave, I'm pretty surprised they remembered Cladun existed.
Banpresto has their hands on more pies so they're a bit better off, and they are still subsidiaries of Bamco anyway.
>>383513330
Use them on a Quad legs AC, that's pretty much the only way to make them useful.

Whats the best Armored Core for someone that just likes customising mechs? are the PSP ones good?

>>383478256
>he doesn't know

>>383492814
other than an interview with Hidetaka Miyazaki where literally the first thing he says is "we are making a new armored core"? no i don't have any proof

>>383513691
Those slow moving heat missiles have insane damage output and are pretty good for taking out Rimfire or other dumber ACs. Also linear gun arms are great against Zinaida. Also those machine gun arms with two types of fire are a nice substitute for the Fingers if you want to rush the arena with a tank.

>>383513913
Last Raven has the most parts from the last gen. It's also coincidentally the hardest one. There's a Portable version.

For Answer has different aesthetics but it's overall similar so maybe look into that too.

And Verdict Day has vastly different looking ACs so it depends on what you like.

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>>383514126
>VGchartz
kek

>>383513729
>NIS fucked up by putting everything they had on Disgaea and not expanding on all the IPs they had like Soul Nomad, ZHP or Phantom Brave, I'm pretty surprised they remembered Cladun existed.
>Banpresto has their hands on more pies so they're a bit better off, and they are still subsidiaries of Bamco anyway.
Aside of ZHP those other IP were too similar gameplay wise on the first glance, so it made sense to choose one of them.
ZHP god Guided Fate paradox. Yeah, I know it's not a good followup but it existed
They did expand on Witch and Hundred Knight with sequel, and that one didn't sell jack shit.
they becoming really realiant on western market which sucks cause NISA is shit. Tho arguably they always were relying on it a lot.

>>383478256
I don't know why but mechs just don't have mainstream appeal in the west for some reason.

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>>383515694
>in the west
It's dying in Japan too.

>>383478256
Armored Core:
>20 year old franchise
>At least double the amount of games
>stayed a niche franchise that never sold beyond its passionate hardcore fanbase

Souls:
>FromSoftware gets a cult hit for the USA in Demon's Souls
>they become mainstream with Dark Souls
>intelligently keep making Souls style games since it has been their best selling games to date
>much less games than the Armored Core games

I see no issue with this. You Armored Core fans will likely be getting another game anyways. You'll just have to wait longer this time. You should be glad From Software has found some success otherwise they would have died as a company.

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>>383516153
>It's dying in Japan too.

In animation (the whole moe vs mecha question they literally hold university presentations about). As far as modelling or video games are concerned, they're just as omnipresent as ever.

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>MFW we had an Armored Core for PC and getting an updated maneuvering system on par with 4 and 5 would turn us into Warframes with mecha.

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>>383518762
>As far as modelling or video games
Models, sure. To some degree. That was always the driving force behind mecha. But even then they get outshined by moe (see FAs turning into FAGs) and they're nowhere near as popular in video games as they once were.

>>383515694
Maybe because people are sick and tired of being fed the same uninteresting story time and time again? Let's be honest, we've gotten a lot of mecha animes lately that follow a shitty formula of muh princess and the autistic robot jock lad. We need an anime centered around Mechwarrior. It'd be Game of fucking Thrones with robots.

>>383519029
>they're nowhere near as popular in video games as they once were.

In Japanese ones, they are.
Plus, don't forget the ridiculously huge fan game scene that is filled to the brim with AC, SRW and other mini clones. It's where all those numerous Asian mecha games come from.

>>383516153
According to one screencap from a news show that's been reposted for near 10 years now. Okay.

>>383519226
>It'd be Game of fucking Thrones with robots.
Shit with robots is still shit.

>>383478446
That's basically what AC is, except with a mission based structure instead of semi-open world

>>383478256
They're already working on AC6, relax

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>>383519523
It's just a meme pic mate. It's actually according to numbers the mecha media is pulling these days.

>>383481835
4/4A are garbage and I hope they never go back to them

>>383519831
Armored Core is nothing like Dark Souls.