Friend is making an indie game with 3d characters. He makes them

Yeah sure. But if that's his model in your picture then that's a problem because that topology is abysmal

>>383476827
It's just a stock image from google.

Sounds like the kind of thing that'd be true. Imagine how much shit a company would get if their game got asset dumped and people started using naked child models for stuff.

Also
>all those poles on a stock photo model
Any 3d bros know any games with particularly neat topology for odd looking characters?

>>383477028
Just check out Artstation. Lots of frequent video game art dumps there. 3d previewed a for most of them too where you can see breakdowns of the diffuse, normal, gloss, wires, etc.

>>383476827
what the fuck does that mean?

>>383476827
i don't know anything about 3d modeling, but why is the topology bad? could you provide an example of a good model for curiosity's sake?

>>383477513
Topology is basically the wireframe of a model
You can't just got stickin any lines anywhere and expect a good product. Typically, you want to keep things as quads (squares), and use triangles as sparingly as possible. Another thing to watch out for is poles, when 3 or 5 edges come together (you typically want 4 edges to come together)

You are supposed to use poles to control muscle groups (making nice ring shapes around the eyes, mouth, and nose for instance), but this model just has them all over the place

In short, if you tried to animate this, it'd probably have problems due to being made haphazardly.

yes, it's not only a thing in the gaming industry. Any design industry that works with 3D animation does this as well. Source: my brother works in 3D animation

>>383478529
>>383476624
Yep, pretty much why I gave up working at CG studios.
They pay crap and you have a ton of responsibilities.

Just freelancing now and i can do whatever I want with my models, naked or what not.

>>383477563
See how those squares all aligned neatly?
Now imagine her opening her mouth, see what's gonna happen to them?
Yeah it's all gonna go everywhere to shitter.

>>383476624
that's just straight up retarded
just don't model genitals and nipples and there's no way a lawsuit would hold up

>>383476624
Well, I don't know what kind of game your friend is working on. But generally speaking if the characters are not supposed to change clothes, why model the naked bodies? The triangles below the clothes will not be visible to the player, so why even bother making them.
Unless you want to have a base to place clothes on it accurately in Zbrush or Marvellous Designer. But those bases will not make it into final asset anyway.

>>383477563
http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/BodyTopology

These are considered examples of good character topology.

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>>383479298
Not the case unfortunately
any remotely realistic model is considered child pornography by federal law
regardless of it if has details like genitalia or not

if the basic alikeness is there i.e. looks like a human silhouette then it's kiddie porn

>>383479650
How do you print medical textbooks then?

>>383479736
Those are protected by medical material laws

vidya isn't

>>383479736
Medical textbooks serve a purpose.
Naked kids in videogames really don't.

>>383479298
People freaked out over The Sims of all games for their Barbie doll models. If those people had their way we'd all be showering in swimsuits.

>>383479898
>Naked kids in videogames really don't.
It's art. Art inherently serves a purpose of expression and the realization of ideas or commentary on cultural matters.
Naked children have been depicted in art for thousands of years and many such pieces are seen as classics to this day.

>>383480212
Art isn't protected like medicine.

Drawing naked kids is considered child porn now, it only flies with works done a few hundred years ago.

Now, not.

Times change my nigga, look up how many people get arrested every day for scribble twigs that look vaguely like a kid and prisoned for it

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>>383476624
>Become 2d artist
>Can still draw children naked before putting on their clothes.

>But he makes child models with their clothes as part of the model.

It's not really against the law as long as you don't leave genitalia on it to be discovered GTA hot coffee style.

In the Sims series, kids can run around in their underwear. And become naked but only when they take a bath, so that's an example of how far you can go.

>>383476827
Firstly thats a stock image. Secondly, there's nothing wrong with that topology.

Out of curiosity, how did Bethesda handle kids in Skyrim and their Fallout games when it comes to this kind of stuff?

>>383480386
Not if someone see it you can't.
You'd get fired and arrested in a minute if wrong people find that out.

>>383480425
Even Tera doesn't have elin models without clothing, their underwear and bras are part of their naked model, there's nothing beneath them, it's continuation of the skin

>>383480517
>>383479650
There's emptiness behind the clothes.
or rather, the clothes are the same model as the rest of the body

>>383480497
Well, I would say that the shoulders are kinda shit, but there's nothing particularly bad with the head. Especially considering how high-poly it is.

>>383480565
They have no proof that the child is naked, I crudely drew the shirt on in 5 secs.

>>383478529
Why lie my brother?
Boss baby and inside out both had naked kid models in them running butt naked on the screen

https://youtu.be/PQb2AvLqJqM?t=52s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNA079xEfOE

OP it's fine as long as they don't have a vagina modeled that you can find in the files and sue them for it

>>383480804
Movies are different from games. It's a bit hard to go into the files of an animated film, rip the model and make SFM porn of with it.

>>383480804
I can see pedophiles popping a boner at that butt jiggle. Why is this allowed?

>>383480915
>I see
So, yourself?

you friend is right and wrong
gaming companies dont trust digital artists because they're all rotten and the ones who couldn't get jobs working for movie sfx companies

>>383480882
Well that's what the guy said, 3d animation, which just isn't true.

And then again if they rip the model out and it's barbie doll then it's fine.
No one would be insane enough to get kid models pussies in vidya

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>>383480941
I'm busted

If you don't get a 5 yo girl to pose nude so you can scan her body 1:1 via a laser and put it into your game then you're a shit developer.

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>>383476827
Every reply your going to get is going to have no idea what topology let alone workflow is, stick to polycount. There's only a handful of us here that understand you.

>>383480384
>Art isn't protected like medicine.
Read the constitution. Freedom of expression is a God given right.
That freedom transcends any federal law.

>>383480623
They have naked bodies with underwear on them, you have to use mods/console commands to kill them and strip them.

Even Fallout 4 has the same thing.

>>383481238
you're*

>>383481238
>thinks he belongs to an elite category of anons by knowing what some term means
>pixelshit
yeah just go back to agdg

>>383479650
I don't believe you, purely because there are child models available for shit like Daz and Poser widely available on pretty much any stock model site.

>>383476624
Yes, because if someone datamines his shit or whatever and finds the child models, things are gonna get out of hand.

Or maybe not. I mean the kids were naked in that Sims nude mod, right? Devs didn't catch shit for it.

>>383476827
I'm sure his models are on stock image servers

>>383482053
The only reason people rip models out of games to make porn with specific vidya characters with a name and personality, like DoA characters.
It's not exactly hard to get a random child model. Sims characters are all random generated/blank state, so there is no point ripping out a generic sims model out of that game.

will he port it to gnu plus lunix?