Will PC players actually play this? Seems like every big PC

>>383432397
For the future you should remember to put the name of the game you're discussing somewhere in the thread you make.

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Destiny was kind of shit, but they are putting it in the blizzard launcher so the drone peasants will gulp it up along with their yum yum blizzcum.

>>383432397
As someone who played this on console, it will still have a playerbase on PC but honestly I don't see many people caring. Destiny would be a great if it didn't require me to pay 20 dollars every 3 months and then 40 dollars every year for the most barebones content.

If the game is good on launch, sure.

If it's as shit as the original game was on launch, then probably not. Fool me once and all that bullshit.

Destiny was fucking hot garbage but the raids were cool.

>>383432397
I know a kid who built a gaming PC just for Destiny 2. I've watched him play the original and it looked nice and smooth but I don't really get the appeal.

>>383433204
It's basically Borderlands/Diablo with "epic" setting also Bungiefags.

I dont like a filthy non-blizzard game to be on battle.net. it will just be a gateway for more garbage that doesnt havethe prestine blizzard quality.

I've been looking for a PVE hero shooter and this is the closest thing outside of Borderlands. I'm really tempted to get it at launch but I already know it'll be cheaper within two months and that they're gonna go Super Jew with the dlc and expansion packs again anyway.

>>383432397
pc is already oversaturated with shitty mmos

>>383433057
this. it will be like Titanfall 2 on PC. there's a small playerbase but way smaller than what the game has on PS4 and xbone. pc players just care about overtrash and lesbian of legends.

>>383432840
>not knowing what destiny is
then you shouldn't be on this board anyway

>>383432397
Idk why anyone would play the first one or this one when Warframe exists.

>>383434480
It'll be way bigger than TF2. Destiny has been one of the most requested PC ports since it released.

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>>383434559

Destiny is shit, so probably not.

>>383432397
Destiny is awful, so probably not.

>>383434559
>he thinks destiny is popular enough to warrant this opinion

Why would I play this shitty game?
The first one sucked hard

>>383434427
I wish this was an MMO. You can have up to 12 (twelve) people in a game at once, and only 6 in a PvE scenario at once. That is not an MMO. Just because I sometimes see some other retard running around in the world that I can't interact with in any meaningful way other than spamming emotes doesn't mean it's an MMO

Be a shame since theyre the only ones who get 60fps and hi-res textures.

>>383432998
you mean: WoW players are getting it for free by selling off a margin of their gold

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>>383432397
>Bungie made an open world meme fps shit game
>Reminder that they made the greatest fps of all time.
what a pack of retards.

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>>383434985
i didn't actually know it was that bad
and people are going crazy for this?

>>383435102
>Reminder that they made the greatest fps of all time.
Didn't realize Bungie made Quake

>>383434559
>implying the screenshot doesn't look generic as fuck

>>383435102
Marathon wasn't THAT good.

>>383433993
>I dont like a filthy non-blizzard game to be on battle.net.
>wat.jpg
>looked it up
>it's true

Why the fuck is Blizz letting trash in?

>>383435584
Is this a joke? Blizzard has been trash since after TBC.

>>383432397
destiny mmo shit
bordelands shit
muh loot shit
mush sponge boss
muh blizzard
you can keep your game console bros

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>>383435246
>Nostalgia fag
get out of here with that shit faggot, we dont need to have pointless shooters anymore, we have the technology and money to include story modes and multiplayer.
in fact I could go as far as saying that quake was never good. and to prove my point, take a look at the new reskin, absolutely no one gives a shit about it.

IM TELLING /DG/ THAT YOURE MAKING FUN OF US AGAIN!!!!!!!!

>>383435102
I liked Marathon; Durandal too but come on man, it wasn't that amazing.

>>383435083
This.

>>383432397
They'll play it because it's on battle.net launcher.

It'll be the most successful release for Bungie they've ever had dwarfing the consoles.

>>383436182
remind me, what's the current state of halo, huh?

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>>383434480
Titanfall 2 is actually a good game unlike Boredomlands: less maymays edition

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>>383436973
>halo
>original devs leave
>new devs come in and fuck it up
People are eating it up still what fuck are you talking about, the last 2 games have sold super well.

i liked destiny 1. gonna play destiny 2 but, kinda dont want to pay $20 for all the expansions.

>>383434480
the SAME people who will launch overwatch every single day will see an announcement on their overwatch program about Destiny 2

some, if not most, will play both

It'll be the most popular game on PC most likely.

>>383436182
He said Quake not Quake 3 Arena.

>>383435083
>Blizzard makes $5 from everyone who converts gold to a token
>free

millennials like you are so fucking stupid lmao

>>383434614
>most requested PC ports
literally meaningless. mustards beg for ports all the fucking time but never put their money where their mouth is. see: every fighting game ever

>>383438749
>but never put their money where their mouth is.
Except with games like:
>GTA V
>Valkyria Chronicles
>EDF 4.1
And most fighting games don't actually need to be ported to PC since they already exist as arcade games, and arcade cabinets are literally just PCs, hence why you often end up with modern fighting games already being available on PC.

>>383432998
Look at blizzard forums. They don't want destiny since it isn't a blizzard game.

Its going to be one of the biggest PC games, several hundred thousand atleast consistently every day. PC players love grind, loot and shit but there is few games to do that in while also being multiplayer and have some online connectivity with people outside your party.

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>>383432998
blizzard fans will eat literal shit from blizzard's asshole

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>>383434559

>>383433953

I think of it as Borderlands if it were a really good shooter and with a fraction of the annoying VA.

Fuck no

>>383432397
>Seems like every big PC release is only popular for a few months before everybody goes back to whatever their prefered F2P/MOBA game is.
thats what happens when you make a shit game, look at how siege peaked 20k when it was released now its over 40k on steam alone once they bothered to fix and improve the game, same thing happened to the broken BF4, might be the case for BF1 too.
the first destiny is fucking garbage and this one looks and plays the same, similar case in Battlefront 2

>>383438749
Lol you cant compare a niche genre like fighting games to one to one of the best selling fps game out there. Destiny fits right in with what's popular on PC already and is going to helped along even more by being on bnet.

>>383438227
Wait like, this may be retarded but like where does that money comefrom? Like who gives bluzz that 5 $? Like the way you wrote it, that read like blizz is paying themselves or has a magic gold to real money converter or some shit, which I guess they pribably do...

>>383432397
>All PvP is 4v4
>No dedicated servers
>No free-for-all

I'm expecting the playerbase on PC to drop pretty fast because frankly they have better options for PvP FPS games than Destiny 2. There are not very many people who play Destiny just for the PvE, so I think a lot of players will get frustrated with how lame the PvP is and move on.

>>383432397
>on battlenet
>guaranteed at least 5 million blizzdrone sales

>PC version delayed by 2 months

Unless you can get it from CDKeys for half the price, it'll be DOA.

>>383440269
wat, the raids is like the main reason to play destiny

>>383440207
WOW tokens are worth $15 blizzbucks, but cost $20 real life money.

This means every WOW player who buys destiny for $60 blizzbucks gained via WOW tokens are paying $20 more then people who buy it with real money.

Same problems as Borderlands. It's a poor shooter with less-than-stellar ARPG systems that don't even compare to Diablo 3, which says a lot.

>>383440418
I agree but at the same time most people at least dabble in Iron Banner for the rewards.

>>383434985

Wait really? My excitement for this game has gone down to 0. I thought this was a legit MMOFPS.

>>383439356
So will Bungie fans (Destiny fans, as I doubt most Destiny players have even played Halo or Marathon). It's the perfect combination. Bungie shit down Day 1 players throats and people were so far up Bungie's ass they could only think to ask for more.

>>383439991
After Mortal Kombat X PC players are rightfully skeptical of fighting games and you know this, stop trying to troll, you suck at it bro.

>>383435156
Because i've seen a ton of normies who think that MMO are nothing but grinding, they don't understand its about having tons of players in a single play space, which is why i've smacked some people at my game shop over the head when they called LOL an MMO.

>>383434956
Get off of /v/ every once and a while anon. Destiny was massively popular.

>>383440714
Destiny was like many titles of the last 5 years.

It sold like crazy because everyone wanted something new, but utlimately was shit because they focused too much on bullshit system design and not enough on genuine fun.

And Destiny 1 didn't get good until the DLC fixed everything, it was the Diablo 3 of shooter games.

>>383434956
Are you retarded?

Warframe is better

>>383440269
Don't forget no real progression for PvP. No ranks. Not even a level progression system, like in overwatch, to give the illusion of profession at least.

>>383440568
Lol no. The people who call this an MMo are talking out their ass simply because it has similarities to an MMO (Raids, loot, shit like that). As far as 'massive' goes, it is anything but massive. MAYBE the sequel is bigger and better, as it is exclusively on next gen hardware, but the DLC for Destiny 1 was only on next gen consoles and that zone was pretty fucking small. Here's what to expect
>You can see +12 players at social hubs but cannot interact with them
>You can see 12 players in the "open world" but you cannot interact with them besides random public events (these are so easy you can solo them with zero issue though)
>PvE scenarios are even smaller. Strikes (dungeons) are party of 3, raids are party of 6.
>Most players you can have in a PvP mode is 6v6

no
this will be just like guild wars 2
a lot of hype for nothing

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>>383440867
>PVP needs ranks to be fun

PVP should be fun by its own merits, your matchmaking rank won't ever mean shit to anyone.

It'll probably do well, I'm gonna guess a lot of overwatch players will end up buying

>>383440867
This isn't entirely true. There's probably still going to be things like faction ranks and ornaments to show off how much PvP you play. They may even try skill-based matching making again even though the fucked it up entirely the first time.

>>383434559
i seriously didn't know there was a difference between destiny and no man's sky till no many's sky released

>>383432397
Anecdotal but most of my PS4 friends also own decent PC's and are planning to get the 2nd on PC for the more precise controls + 60FPS. Im on the fence because while I originally enjoyed the gameplay, the story was non existent and towards the end I just felt like "eh" and lost all motivation to continue playing.

>>383440714
destiny was only popular if you were in middleschool when it was released

>>383440994
i srsly just wanted them to copy past halo, or halo 2 and just make that the pvp, but nooo they had to fuckit up with all kinds of retarded shit.

>>383440994
Too bad PvP in Destiny is both
1. not fun
2. not rewarding
The PvP in Destiny is literally an afterthought and nobody gives a shit about it except for /dg/ autists who travel in 6 man premades.

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>tfw nu-BUNGiE is making a new Marathon game in 2020 and there is nothing you can do to stop them

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>>383441470
Not true. I fucking wish. That contract was so long ago, it's probably null by now. We'll NEVER EVER get another Marathon even though DOOM got a reboot. Once again, being a Marathon fan is suffering.

>>383432397
me on the left

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>>383441389
Uh, try again sweetie :-)

>>383441654
Lol?

I was going to get it for pvp only since the CS-esque mode they showed gave me DOOM 4 clan arena vibes. but since there's no dedicated servers I don't think they're serious about competitive ranked play or esports so why bother

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>>383441654
>he thinks twitch views actually mean something

>>383440714
Among normalfags, perhaps. It's like /v/irgins being hyped over fucking Cowadooty.

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I had a blast with Destiny until Taken King. People will play it.

I will play it until the expansions stop adding actual content. It will have a similar life cycle as the first one. They will release a fun game that has little to no end-game. The expansions will be an extremely low effort cash grab and then I will stop playing.

It will be very fun to play for those first 100 hours.

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>>383441903
Haha yeah I guess league and pubg are just dead games at this point

>>383441917
m8. The first two expansions for Destiny had content that was already in the game but was behind a paywall. You could glitch into the DLC areas from day 1. Hell, you could see the reef in a fucking trailer. And they had the audacity to sell these """Expansions""" for 20 fucking dollars each which is absurd for how little content they had. $40 for TTK is a lot, it's by no means a small amount but at least TTK had actual content added.

>>383434559
>knowing what destiny is
It's you who shouldn't be on this board. That game is a piece of fucking trash and represents everything that is wrong with videogames today.

>>383442174
$20 is like a meal at a restuarant, and each of those expansions gave a raid with new gear stfu.

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>>383442240
Go back to the VNs you fucking weeb

>>383442174
You think I don't know what you just said? It was around TTK that I had enough and was burned out and stopped playing. I laughed out loud at every expansion trailer after that one because I at least had released from the game and could laugh about it.

It's a fun game with great gunplay. No reason not to play vanilla D2. I won't preorder it out of principal, but I'll buy it for sure. On ps4 because I'll have a raid's worth of friends who will be on and make the game worth playing.

>>383442317
The gear and content was already in the game, and House of Wolves didn't even have a raid lmao. Prison of Elders was easily the WORST survival mode I have ever played in an FPS and you could tell it was lazily thrown together. Not to mention Crota's End was shorter than the Omnigul strike when you had even a slightly competent team. Hell, the raid could easily be solo'd. It was extremely disappointing because VoG was genuinely a lot of fun, and you know, had rewards that felt good to use. Year 1 Destiny was garbage, and Bungie should issue a public apology for how awful it was. I'd rather that 20 dollars (really 40, for both) and paper cut my cock than spend it on those awful expansions

>>383435759
Blizzard has always been trash, none of their games were remotely good, it's just that the community was.

>>383442458

t. Nu Gamer

>>383433204
In his defense, the game looks really good in 60 FPS
https://youtu.be/ArPP6_QXqyQ

>>383442749
I will paper cut your cock unless you give me $40.

I'll play it just because I'm desperate for an fps that isn't mobatrash or csgo.

>>383434559
Good one anon, but shouldn't you be taking care of your chores before Mom yells at you again?

>>383442749
ya i guess idk i didnt even buy those i just got the destiny game and then ttk lol. those raids were both good.

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>>383442886
This. It will be one of the best FPS games on PC released in a 2 year window. With online co-op and multiplayer. This will be a fact that /v/ will fight until it becomes a meme.

>>383442970
For all of Destiny's flaws, it's a solid FPS

>>383442970
It's going to be incredibly watered down and run into the ground by greed, but it will be a decent game that is playable compared to the other shit PC gets.

>>383435584
>>383439210
>>383439356
>Thinking blizzard has any say in this EVEN if they didn't want it on there

Papa activision calls the shots, not blizzard.

I would have had the first one came out on PC.

Why would I jump into a franchise when i'm incapable of playing the first game in the series?

>>383443086
>It's going to be incredibly watered down and run into the ground by greed
Just like the first one. People should know how Destiny 1 was handled. People buying Destiny 2 should know what they're getting into.

>>383443208
The story was pretty much entirely cut out and any connection is irrelevant because of that.

>>383441158
What are you, a middle schooler? How could you possibly know that? Destiny was popular as fuck for many age groups, including man children. I know, I am one

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>>383443086
I'm confused, what are these great console FPS that make PC games look like shit?
People seem to have this idea that PC gamers will love Destiny despite the fact that the games are generally pretty shit and don't appeal much to the average PC gamer.
Is it just a roundabout way to avoid admitting that the games are crap?

Are they going to make us pay for cosmetics again? I absolutely hated that they pulled that shit, and I feel bad for anyone who purchased emotes and stuff, even though I really wanted to.

>>383443316
I don't care, i'm a hardcore lorefag. I read every one of the halo books.

I'm not going to jump into a series unless i'm capable of consuming all the media in it.

>>383441389
>except for /dg/ autists who travel in 6 man premades.
Premades haven't been a thing on /dg/ since The Taken King when Bungie secretly added in Skill based matchmaking and broke the game by trying to "balance" it aka nerf anything that people complained about to the ground

>>383443505
he's not exaggerating when he says the story was literally cut. All bits of lore you could want are found in cards EXCLUSIVELY found online and not in-game. Read those and you'll be good to go.

>>383440994
>PVP needs ranks to be fun

Who are you quoting?

No one said adding ranks is needed to be fun. Although destiny PvP isn't all that fun to begin with.

>>383443225
Except the story behind Destiny's poor launch wasn't due to greed, but to internal conflicts on how the story should progress with led to just about everything being redone a few months before release.

>>383443465
>>383443225
Game is great for at least 100 hours, it just doesn't have the staying power an MMO has which the advertisements have pretty much dropped. It's a solid fps.

Compare it to most fps games that rely on multiplayer arena mode only with no dungeon/raid content.

As shit as Destiny is, it surprisingly has more content than Battlefield and CoD games. I would still rather play Battlefield though.

I never played the first game because I wasn't interested enough and no one I knew played it but I'm looking forward to playing the trial for the second. If me and my friend like it we're probably going to play it together, so I hope it's fun.

>>383443505
Not the other dude, but the timeline of Destiny is pretty large, and all of it is explained in lore cards outside of the game itself, which you can read for free. Any progression made in the game itself is fairly insignificant. I didn't really understand what was going on until I read the lore cards, way after playing the game's story itself.

>>383443729
>wasn't greed
Then why did they cut out content that was on the disk and resell it? Sure, the game's development wasn't ruined by greed (that we know of) but the game was still in the end a victim of corporate greed.

>>383443902
Different anon: What the fuck is do you niggers mean when you keep saying "card" exactly?

>>383443973
Because it literally wasn't finished by that time. By the time they shipped Destiny they immediately had to start work on the DLCs just to ship them out on time.

>>383444047
Lore is on Grimoire "cards" though they should just be called web pages cause there's nothing "card" about them.

>>383432397
>Friends are gonna buy it on console first so I won't have anyone to play with
>"""10""" tick rate
>PS4 exclusive items maps and quests
>Console balancing

I'd honestly rather try the division

>>383444339
the division is even worse. That shit is artificial difficulty: the game.

>>383444047
Whenever you start, complete or reach a milestone in game you earn a grimoire "card" that you can read online on your profile on Bungie.net but you can read all the cards online on this website

http://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/oryx

>>383432397
>never gave me the first
>expect me to buy the sequel

>>383438749
You're also forgetting the dark souls series ato add whatever the other anon said. The truth is, there's simply not that much demand for fighting games. They're a niche market. You can't generalize everything because you're butthurt, anon. That's how SJW's come into existence. You're not an SJW... Are you, anon?

>>383444339
Don't, I played for a few hours and got bored. Once you placed the beta, you've pretty much played the game.

>>383444339
Fuck that game. At least bullet sponges in destiny can make some sense since they're aliens. A Tom Clancy game where a nigger can take multiple head shots is so boring.

>>383444582
The first one had no story what so ever desu all the DLC's and expansions were more like side stories that built the world of Destiny but never progressed the main story, which even to this day no one knows what it's about because Bungie ret conned what the Darkness is and confirmed the story of the Exo Stranger is over.

>>383434559
I mean you're kind of right, because there's so many used and returned copies of destiny sitting on shelves it would be hard to not know what destiny is.

>>383444543
Oh. Okay. Thank you for explaining it.

That is retarded. But thank you for explaining it.

>yfw it's on battlenet
I had no idea blizz and activision were the same, but it makes a lot of sense.

>>383445185
There's a reason why blizzard has been mostly shit and way more money grubbing ever since the activision merger during Wrath of the Lich king, anon.

>>383432397

destiny was one of the few things that kept me on psn for a while, but it the end the retarded pad controls and the shitty ps platform put me off. i can see myself playing Destiny2 a lot simply for being on PC even if its just more of the same. its the simple diablo kinda loop in a solid sci-fi shooter with fucking awesome designs. apart from the overly high price of expansions, whats not to like?

the competition is stuff like warframe, which is nowhere near the quality.

>>383432998
Activision is butting it on bnet so they don't have to pay a 3rd party to digitally sell their game. They are consolidating their games into one place so they can have total control of the sales to rape their fan base.

Also the thing about blizztards buying it just to buy it. A bunch of faggots are going to think blizzard had something to do with development and buy it which is fucked up.

>>383445185
In the middle of Wrath of the Lich King two things happened after Activision took the reins that made it overt they were meddling and fucking things up:

>Dungeon Finder
>Celestial Horse

>>383445658
>Being this mad people can just buy it with WoW gold

>>383435102
>Reminder that they made the greatest fps of all time.
and what game would that be?

>>383440418
They were, until you had run them 100 times. PvP kept the game alive during droughts.

>>383445880
Halo 2

>>383445650
Um, Warframe has way more content, looks just as good and is free. You also have complete control of your character customization.

Warframe is shit too but not as bad as destiny. There's good times to be had in Warframe where as you have to buy content twice just to not have fun in destiny.

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>>383445964
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>383445964
>Halo 2
Not with that unfinished campaign. Now Halo 3 on the other hand...

>>383445650
This has me thinking. Competition would be: Anthem, The division 2(or year 2), warframe, Borderlands 3.
That's all that comes to mind.

>>383441129
Since the PC release is delayed, you'll have plenty of time to hear how the game is. Unless they give a lot of content, most of the players will have chewed through it all by the time it comes out on PC.

>>383446012
List each games contents pls.

>>383446120
Halo 3's campaign was trash, halo 2's was beautiful.
Halo 3 was only for the multiplayer

>>383446138
I feel like anthem is going to rape the shooter rpg market. Destiny doesn't stand a chance in the long run. Bioware had shooter rpgs down way before bungie shit one out.

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>>383434559
>destiny
You don't belong here.

>>383446138
The Division is not competition for Destiny because we've tried it and we hated it. Warframe has very little in common with Destiny despite appearances, but it's getting a new open-world area with mechanics that might make it something of a competitor. Anthem might be a competitor but I didn't really see much similarity to Destiny in the gameplay from E3: plenty of games feature critters that drop guns when you kill them, that isn't enough.

Bungie really needs a good kick in the ass from a real competitor.

>>383446240
500 weapons to 30. 200 of which are meta vs 5 being meta. Yea I'll take the bigger collectathon with cooler looking weapons.

>>383446252
I played Halo 2's campaign waaaaay more than anyone here has. I was stuck with the game with no online for years. I played an unhealthy amount of Halo 2, but I'm not going to be biased about it. Halo 2 had an unfinished, clunky campaign. You could throw a grenade and end up outside of the map on accident because Bungie was too lazy (busy?) to even put invisible blockers. Not to mention the story loops back in on itself. You start in Sol, and end the story in Sol after accomplishing really nothing. I wouldn't call it a big deal if Bungie didn't advertise it as "finishing the fight" when actually you finish the fight in Halo 3 and you had to buy a new console to do so

>>383442174
$40 for Taken King WOULD have been reasonable.....if they had given us more content throughout that DLC's life cycle instead of that abysmal seven month content drought without news from Bungie on what the fuck was going on.

>>383446569
>TARTARUS, STOP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbwLYxYIavo

>>383432397
wait, PC is only getting Destiny NOW? why?

what the fuck is the point? the game came out more than a year ago and all content has both been released and throughly explored/finished by players. the only thing keeping it alive is the occasional event/update and pvp.

and even then, the big influx of people is mostly when a big update launches, after that it slowly dwindles to a very small portion of active users. so if the initial PC crowd isn't big enough it'll be dead in months even with all the content out from the start (which could also intimidate some players given they'll have a ton of quests and bounties and other shit up all the time)

and the worst part is that Destiny 2 is already coming so it's even more pointless to get into 1 now.

>>383434559
it could be any of a dozen or more sci-fi shootan games

>>383447260
Destiny 2, not 1.

>>383447260
>t. retard that can't read

>>383447260
>PC is only getting Destiny NOW?
There's nothing saying Destiny is coming to PC, only D2. Blame op for making a shitty post.

>>383447260
no, they're getting Destiny 2. Destiny 1 isn't coming to PC.

I'll probably play the beta if it has one, but the first one was a boring as fuck grindathon, might be less boring with a control scheme that isn't dogshit though, also the FoV was complete shit in the first one, i'm almost certain it was even less that CoD:MW3 was on console, which was like 65. Although that could just be down to the oversized weapons that take up like half of your screen real estate.

>>383447460
PC Beta is in August sometime. FOV of Destiny 1 is 60 IIRC.

>>383446690
it was a classic case of nuking and then running out of steam. much like how tv shows will release entire seasons in a week then spend months completely stopeed, they released almost all the big, cool content at once and then realized they had nothing left to add longevity.

the dreadnought was big enough and had enough secrets that merely exploring it along with the initial quests took some time if you wanted to do it all. there was absolutely no need to rush. and they should honestly have revamped one of the older raids for TKK after King's Fall had been out for a couple of months, that would also have made it much, much better.

>>383447386
see>>383447395
i thought it was 1, the image isn't really very explicit about it and neither is his post.

>>383444339
Destiny doesn't have 10 tickrate. The game is 30 tickrate, with the ammo boxes being the only thing that exist at 10.

PS4 exclusives are all shit, though exclusives in general are shitty I'll agree there.

>>383447549
>FOV of Destiny 1 is 60 IIRC.
I could believe it, the game made me feel physically ill playing it for any extended period of time.

>>383432397

>4v4 pvp

Nope.

>>383447782
The OP image is from Destiny 1.

>>383447845
Part of it could also be Bungie's design philosophy in FPS on Console. They lower the crosshair horizontally so as to make verticality more important. They're keeping it dead center on PC though.

>>383446513
Raids make destiny the more fun grinding game.

>>383447692
>they should honestly have revamped one of the older raids for TKK after King's Fall had been out for a couple of months
They really fucking should have. That's why I'm really wary about D2 right now. If it does the same thing that vanilla D1 did, like I'm thinking it will, then I'll be done with Bungie after that.

>>383432397
It'll almost certainly become my 'main' game

All it has to be is at least as good as Destiny 1 but on PC and I will play it forever, even limited to playing on PS4 I still managed to put a couple hundred hours into it and I hate FPS on a controller

>>383432397
Is this Warframe? Tons of PC players play it.

>>383448138
i don't think they should have revamped the raids but rather put more than 1 out a year. but then again, the entirety of Destiny 1 was some kind of large-scale beta test for an idea that they apparently still haven't perfected.

>>383448365
It's Warframe if it was B2P and really slow paced.

>>383448365
Warframes PvP is absolute trash, even when compared to destiny's.

Isn't warframe technically still in beta?

>>383433204

The first time you go through a raid in Destiny is truly something magical. There's usually all kinds of puzzles and the bosses have mechanics to them that you have to figure out on your own. It's really satisfying to finally get the pattern of a boss down with your squad and to kill them. Unfortunately the drop rates are so shit that you'll be doing the same raids week after week just to hope for one thing to drop. Hoping they address that in the sequel.

>>383448843
they've gotten way generous with raid drops for the most part.

>>383448710
Not really, from a technical standpoint the game has been finished for years, but hey, if they want to keep adding to it then that's fine by me.

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>Digital exterminates released a 17 min video of warframe's newest expansion that got even the grumpiest of people who quit the game years ago to come back and give it a try

>>383448047
warframe has 2 raids but the playerbase is mostly in the low the mid lvl content so the devs only give it a few dimes here and there but never actually expand or make more

>>383434985

they said 24 ppl could be in the new social space at once and I dont remember them ever confirming how many people could be in the patrols at once. Also it feels just like any other mmo I guess it doesnt really fit the exact definition but I still consider it one. PVP is being dropped to 4v4 as well but thats a good thing less supers to worry about.

>>383440714
>every once and a while
go learn some proper english you shitskin or even better hang yourself and save us from having to read your posts in the future

>>383448047
Warframe has raids and in-game chat to get groups together quickly instead of wading thru 3rd party websites until you find people who aren't retarded.

>>383449206
The first raid I played in warframe was not good. Is the second one better?

>>383442854

wtf this looks like fun

what is everyone mad about?

>>383448456
>>383448843
the game should have been raid-focused.

by that i mean that the main story and side missions should be to get you up to max level and give you standard entry-level gear for raids and from then on you should have had mostly raids with some minor stuff on the side. just make raids something you can do more than once a week but every time you do it becomes harder while also having an increased drop rate for good stuff. make it in a way that a player who just finished the story will only be able to do it once, but as he gets better gear he can do multiple runs a week. and like in challenge modes have some strats and puzzles change as it gets harder or make it have more strict timing/precision requirements.

strikes could have been world events instead of warsats and the like, giving players a chance at getting some gear for raids while they're going around doing bounties. if they added some actual reward for exploring the planets (like schematics for a legendary/exotic engram) it would have all meshed together pretty well and made it all much less boring.

>>383449679
>muh bungie killed fps's
>muh why wont bungie make more halo instead of destiny

>>383449679
>wtf this looks like fun
Story missions are easily the worst part of Destiny so if you think this looks fun then you should definitely give the game a try

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>>383449556
they focused the raid around J3 Golem Jordas and the infestation on abandon corpus ships

they combined archwing and land missions.

it lacks actual cooperation unlike LoR but there is more of a mental puzzle for people who are doing it for the first time.

50 mins max for normal pubs who dont know it
40 mins for average
30 for experienced
and 20 less for people who speed run and glitch through it

>>383449897

I played through most of the taken king story at a friends house a while back and it was fine, no better or worse than any other bro shooter fps campaign. I hear the base campaign was trash but if their recent work is anything to go off of I'm actually looking forward to the campaign in this one.

>>383434956
?

Is golden gun the most uncreative, lazily designed super to ever exist?

>>383440435
but theyre paying with shit the earned in game by playing a videogame?

>>383449679
i'd say people are wary of Bungie because of what they did with vanilla Destiny 1. fun-lloking trailers/gameplay vids, interesting premise, lots of hype and promises.
and then we got a game with virtually no story and just the bare minimum amount of content to not be straight up theft, claiming to be an MMO FPS while only having the ridiculous amounts of grind to show for an MMO element.
and then you follow that up with 2 "expansions" that as people said previously only removed pawalls for pre-existing content.

sure, they say they've learned from their mistakes and won't do it again but can you blame people for being skeptical at this point?

>>383449679
What veteran Destiny players are getting mad over is; grimoire cards being done away with in favor of having lore in-game, weapon loadouts now making time to kill slower by moving insta-kill weapons all in one slot, PVP scaled down to 4v4 and a few other stuff. Other then that it's just people who didn't like Destiny and think D2 will be a repeat of that bad release year.

>>383450109
Then you can take solace in the fact that the TTK team is in charge of D2, not the base release team. TTK team has their shit together with actual leadership.

>>383436973
Still alive cause 343 fags will eat everything they make and defend any bad practices

>>383450279
bubble. even the name is lazy.

>>383450529
>bubble
You mean Ward of Dawn?

Why the fuck can't I like both warframe and destiny?

>>383450358
Grimoire cards should always be accessible somehow ingame, it was stupid that the actual story was locked behind a fucking app

4v4 angers me as well because i'm a casual and i don't pvp competitively, i just want to have fun without pressure

>>383434697
>>383434956
>>383435391
>>383439481
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>>383442240
>>383442924
>>383445157
>>383446369
>>383447280
t. salty PCfriends who didn't get to play Destiny with their m8s about four years ago :) enjoy our scraps

Am I gonna have to play the first Destiny to not be confused story-wise?

>>383440994
Too bad PvE balance is affected by PvP

>>383450529
What's worst? Cheap PvP kills or cheap pve kills?

>>383450662
I tried doing that for a while and it really fucked with my life. I didn't sleep correctly for a while.

>>383450747
enjoy what? destiny 2 is going to be garbage so why bother

>>383450787
I doubt it
Theres a lot of tasty lore but this shits about a new bad guy

>>383450787
No. The Destiny story might take you five minutes on a wiki to get the gist of it.

>>383450787
Lmao, no. The story in the first one is trash. You can read the lore online if you want.

>>383442317
Dude, it's 20$ for almost fucking nothing of actual value. If I buy 20$ of food,
I expect a full meal, not half a baked potato without any butter. The crota raid is a fucking 6 player strike mission and PoE is probably one of the worst horde-like game modes ever made.

The only expansions with actual value was TTK and ROI, and even then they were still overpriced.

Destiny was always a game geared for PC fags

I have no idea why it was Console Exclusive outside of Bungie execs being console fanboys

>>383435584
blizzard is owned by activision, activision has a publishing deal with bungie, activision tells blizzard we're using your platform now.

>>383450787
not really. you won't know who the characters are but you can always just look that up online. the story starts with an incident that happens after the end of the first and is only partially related to one of the expansions.

>>383450808
i dunno, but in a bunch of games a protective shield/bubble isn't even an ult it's straight up a regular ability. it just feels underwhelming and the strike is strong but not very inspired either. guess that's why they went apeshit on sunbreaker's ult.

>>383451384
Blizzard and activision are BOTH owned by activision-blizzard

>>383450319
someone paid $20 for the token, there is no tokens that were not originally paid for by someone else

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>>383450747
>mass reply
>consolefag trying to be smug about PC not getting a multiplat release
>:^)
>Acting like motherfucking Destiny of all things is worth a damn
Wewlad this is some nice b8

>>383451592
So? I'm not the one paying money, welcome to capitalism

>>383450747
>>>383445157
>pc friend
>I buy my games physically
>PC is digitally exclusive

Nice try I guess. Stay mad that more than 3/4 of the player base returned the game.

>>383451887
didnt say you were, your post was directed at someone responding to >>383440207 he didnt understand how blizzard made money from it

>>383432397
I'll finally be able to play destiny with proper fps controls, proper framerate, and I don't have to pay a monthly service to play with my friends.
They are finally doing a narrative this time, so it won't just feel like random missions with no purpose.

>>383450787
What story?

>>383443159
But thats wrong, you retard.
Neither Blizzard nor Activision call any shots, those are sub-companies of Activision Blizzard, which came from a merging of Vivendi Games (owner of Blizzard) and Activision, so both boards call the shots.

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>mfw I payed off Destiny 2 exclusively with WoW tokens

>>383450787
The story is absolute shit. All you need to know is the physical representation of God gave humans guns to fight bad guys that killed people. It gave you an angle that sounded like Peter dinkledge to explain things to you but only made things more confusing. But who cares because kill bad guys for guns. Oh and pay for content twice. So that you can use the same guns but only stronger.

>>383450787
They're literally retconning the story in Destiny 2 because Destiny was rewritten halfway through and a bunch of the stuff that ended up in the game were just placeholders until they could come up with actual lore.
The big bad Darkness for example and the idea that all aliens draw power from it is being removed.

for the 20th time, NO, faggot
devs are time-constrained so it'll be missing features, it has turned more casual and waay less grindy, PC release will be delayed for more than 1.5 months and a you'll have to wait a whole year for missing content because Activision and Sony are sucking each others' dick
it'll be Titanfall 2 in a month

>>383450747
Are you calling destiny the art scraps? How dare you

>>383452486
Nice meme.

>>383432397
Destiny pisses me off. Great art direction, but the game is worse than Halo ever was and it doesn't look like they're improving a fucking thing with the sequel.

>>383452727
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/06/15/bungie-has-written-the-darkness-and-the-exo-stranger-out-of-destiny-2/#17d0e9d87f2f

>“At a point, just totally candidly, we had no idea what [The Darkness] was. Straight up, we had no clue. We didn’t know what it was. For a period, we chose we were going to lump all the races, and you can see this in the tool tips in the game: “Minions of the Darkness.” And we had taken all the races and said, ‘Ah, they just all be The Darkness.’ But that’s not what he IP deserves. It’s literally not. And so, what we’re doing with Destiny is we are deliberately telling a story about the Light and what it means to be chosen. And as such, we are in the process of removing the term “The Darkness” from the game because when we are going to talk about Darkness next, we need to know what it is and have a plan for it. And we do.”

>>383453658
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>383434559
>>383432397

I think all the responses are memeing.

I personally fucking hate Destiny, never bought it never cared but a lot of my consolefag friends were enamored by it for a few months.

I tried to explain it's literally just warframe but in 1st person and slower, but only 2 of them cared, the rest just ate the shit out.

Warframe is also shit, by the way, just throwing that out there, but it was good back in january of 2013 (closed alpha)

Anyway.
I digress.
I assumed that everyone knew what destiny was, but just want the name in there so people can ctrl-F (game name) to find threads.

>>383449206

I used to play warframe, but the bottom line is I never used the shitty steam release version.

it fuckedu p my achievements too so ...idk.

>>383454296
I bet you play stalker, new vegas and doom WADS and everything else is "shit"

>>383432397

There's "clean" and then there's sterile and Destiny definitely leans toward the latter.

It's unbelievably dry.

>>383452410
>mfw you spent more time playing a shitty MMO to make enough gold to give blizzard more money then someone who works a minimum wage job.