So I'm level 36 and I've still been spamming the same

It gets good when you stop making shitty bait threads on /v/

I hope the next inventory updae will add way more than 40 slots.

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How the fuck do you fix Immortal Flames?

>>383395974
I'm pretty surprised, normally from what I see Flames are typically second place most of the time with Addercucks in last.

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>>383394780
>didn't even give us a full five rows for the 6th bag

>>383394496
My main was a Paladin and that shit's too simple to play for me. Once I tried out Bard though I realized how fun the combat could be. Gonna try out the other tank classes and hope they're more fun than Pally.
But yeah, your hotbars requiring any skill doesnt happen until around 45-50 which in my opinion is fucking stupid.

>>383394496
>level 36
>only two attacks
Maybe if you read the tooltips on all your other skills you wouldn't have this problem.

>>383396180
They're always positioned to buttfuck the other two GCs but are never ready for ice, and once they've gained the upper hand they tunnel vision EVERYTHING to the end of the world. What happens next is the rest of them slip to the ice and divide it among themselves, or Flames get pincered and raped because they dived too far.

Strangely enough, I won 7 games in a row as Flames a couple days ago before I'm treated to today's shitshow. Every single game I won there's a guy saying this in chat every 4 minutes
"Big ice at 19:00, get ready"
Even though there's no ice nor any guarantee for ice there. Somehow that placebo phrase causes everyone to open their fucking maps and pay attention or something. It's unreal.

>>383397268
I hate Shatter, it's the shittiest of the gamemodes and I always end up getting it in roulette.

>>383394496

At lvl37, trust me.

>>383394496
Depends on the job.
SAM and MCH feels like trash until 64

At 70 you'll have 4 shitty attack moves and a gauge that fills up to let you do another shitty attack move. It gets good when you turn off the game and go outside.

>>383398480
t. drg player

>>383398667
Rdm actually

>>383398978
caster kids today don't know how good they've got it

>>383399045
Played MNK and NIN before SB. Decided I wanted to be even lazier, than they went ahead and took away all the melee skills too anyways.

What's the best way to grind for 60-70? Just reached 64 for my SAM and it felt like forever

>>383399242
If you're lazy PvP, if you want to work staying queued for roulettes/dungeons and fate grinding between queue pops is technically the fastest

>>383399242
Quest while waiting for dungeons

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>do the susanoo battle challenge with randoms
>MT the fight as WAR
>play normally (cooldown usage, mitigation, etc.)
>get praised by the commentators for doing a great job repeatedly in front of the audience
Hold me guys, people never give me comms and never praise me in game. They only bitch.

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>dps can't stop killing the adds in Lakshmi

Is anyone here hitting over 3.55k as SMN in Lakshmi EX? I'm finding that breaking that number in PUG groups is a bit of a brick wall which is kinda gay since it isn't very high.

Using FFLogs numbers, of course. ACT is parsing me way higher but ACT is also inaccurate as fuck.

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>have SCH and AST to 64
>SCH's Adlo costs 1400 MP, heals for about 4200 and shields for 4200
>AST's Nocturnal benefic costs 1100 MP, heals for about 3200 and shield for about 8200

>b-but muh crit shields
people say this like AST's shields can't crit either and they come with the native bonus no matter what, making crit nocturnal shields only slightly inferior to crit adlos

Who the fuck allowed this? I'm going back to AST

>he parses

Jej

>>383400949
>parsing primals that are easier than the MSQ boss

>>383400949
>PUG groups
>pick up group groups

>>383394496
Every class's rotation is bare bones as fuck until you get to like 50-60

share your huds!

>>383401512
Yeah after staying at the top/2nd for a good while I kinda get bored with parsing desu. I just know that if I killed the dummy and finished the fight without fucking up mechanics, I'm already doing my job
Parsing is useful when you're new to the job and want to know how up to par you are and what skills OTHER people have been using, or when you're testing out new gear. Every other instances of parsing is just for dick measurement purposes

Played until I finished the ARR MSQ entirely and realised just how shitty this game is. I can't believe I see people shit on ESO constantly on /v/ but people praise FFXIV. It's worse in almost every aspect except for maybe some of the music (not all) and some nicer designed equipment.

>>383401819
Sorry, I meant I was playing with a group of pugs as in the dog.

papa hildy im a manderville man

>>383402665
rip

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>>383400269
>what elezen think they look like
>what I wish elezen looked like
>pic related, what elezen actually look like

I'm just downloading the free trial. Any tips?

>>383403027
>Wanting pointy eared highlanders.
Elezen should be even more deformed.

>>383403186
Don't start as Gladiator. Pick Pugilist or Thaumaturge for maximum story relevance.

>>383397268
>Somehow that placebo phrase causes everyone to open their fucking maps

>not having your map open in the corner all the fucking time in frontlines anyway
That's an easy 50% boost to map awareness right there.

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>>383403027
Elezens are weird, they either look like dhalmels or they don't and they look great, and it all depends on the place, pose, hair/headgear and overall gear they're wearing.
Life is suffering.

>>383403186
Nothing in character creation before starting class matters and even that only little.
Read the text on screen, the game is very handheldy.

>>383403186
Don't be afraid to experiment, The beginning will be slow but since its unlimited, you can go at your own pace. You can be any Class/Job on one character.

Just have fun. Start with whatever you like.

>like the silent protagonist treatment
>always pick the "....." option when I can
>meet these Qestir lizard folk
it's like I've finally found my long lost family.

>>383403314
They're made for heavy armor and robes. Armored Elezen are god tier.

>>383403448
Ishgard and HW was great for that.

>>383394496
>he plays a dragoon

Found your problem, son.

When is the first balance patch? First week of Savage or second week?

>>383403645
Same week as Savage. So.. not this week but next.

>>383403645
When 5.0 hits.

>>383394496
At 70 :^)

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>>383403027
>race made for heavy armor and robes
>people try to put them in generic slutglam and generally stuff that isn't heavy armor and robes
>"wow wtf why does this race look like shit"
If your Elezen doesn't look good then it's a testament to your inability to create a good outfit and nothing else.

>>383402032
Pretty much.
People obsess way too much about muh dps.
I swear if i hear big dick dps one more time today im going to scream.

>>383404889
I'm parsing to quickly know who is doing shit and who is doing great, that's it.

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>>383404889
Oh yeah?!
*unzips bigdickdps*

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>>383405075

>>383402032
I pretty much dont bother parsing myself anymore. It's all the same story, effortless 90th percentile just playing normally, 95-99s for good runs.

Frankly I never saw the point of overlays either. It's pretty much just masturbation, because what's the point of knowing your exact moment to moment dps during a fight? I know how much I'm doing, it's "Exactly how much I should be doing for my gear" because I don't really make mistakes, at the very least not ones big enough to be seen above statistical noise.

It's not like I play badly on purpose and look at it and go "Oh yeah I better step it up", I'm always at 100% and if I'm not on top it's either 1. job/gear and nothing I can do about it, or 2. I made a mistake and I'm already aware of it.

>>383394496
I find that hard to believe. No class could possibly only be using 2 skills at that level.

>>383405429
BLM or SMN maybe

>>383405605
BLM at 36 still uses Thunder, Thunder II, Fire, Fire II, Fire III, Blizzard, Freeze, Transpose, Convert.

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>>383405776
>Freeze

>>383405852
Before you get Flare, it's actually somewhat worth, especially since Fire II has been nerfed. So for about 15 levels.

What are some fun things to do at endgame other than raiding and pvp?

I want some challenges, or some things to collect, or elite mobs to farm solo to get rich or something fuck

>>383405776
>>383405605
Black mage has always been brain-dead pre-60.
It's also one of the most enjoyable and complex jobs after.

>>383406009
glamour

>>383406009
Sounds like you're playing the wrong game. Yoshi P wants you to logout after finishing your dailies/weeklies.

kill me

>>383406009
craft and gather and compete for the title of King Jew

>>383406124
And that's why you need 12 horns for a mount from a fate spawning every 36 - 72 hours.

>>383406134
Is fishing good?
I often like fishing as minigames in other games

>>383406280
>all that work for an uggo flavour of the month mount that everyone will be using
whats the point? Chill on a timeless classic like one of the frontline ADS mounts or something.

Ps4 or pc? I'm a old player on Ps4 returning and I remember the controller was great for dodging boss aoes, but bad for using skills due to switch hotbars all the time. I'm starting new regardless.

>>383406494
>Chill on a timeless classic like one of the frontline ADS mounts or something.
Which you have to win 200(?) frontlines for.

>>383406494
Ugly as fuck too

>>383394496
Why is Laksmi EX so fucking easy and why is the drop rate on these dogs so bad.

Also how are their people dumb enough to enter a lootmaster party

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>/v/ says catgirl is degenerate
>had to Fantasia to midlander

I'll never be kawaii again

>>383406732
They're even cuter anyway
Cats are just mindbroken cocksleeves

>>383406732
>fantasaiaing from one degeneracy to another

>Trying to help a friend with Royal Menagerie on EU
I'd ask how this fight is still a complete shit show, but 6/8 people in the party having a big ol' underscore F or D answers it.

I'm just going to wait until the FC logs in. Didn't think it was still this awful.

Is Shinryu still an ordeal on other datacenters? Or is this just another fucking frog thing?

>>383406732
Midlander girls are superior anyways.

>>383406617
well hey that's enough for 20 levels

>>383406706
Mount drop rates are always at like 5% when a primal first comes out. They'll increase it in 3 months and add the option to buy it with tokens. Grinding for them at all right now is fucking stupid unless you just want the tokens in advance.

>>383406732
Anti-cat fags are just very vocal. I think a strawpoll of /v/ resulted in like 50% of everyone play cats anyways.

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>>383401992
Here.

>>383406732
Midlanders make the cutest girls friend. You just have to put in some minuscule amount of effort for it now.

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>play WAR all the way through ARR to SB
>comfy as hell once you memorize dungeons and fights
>used to 2.5 second GCD
>decide to level MNK
>mfw 1 second GCD
>literally just mashing my fucking keyboard and things are dying left and right
>no idea what the fuck I'm doing but it's fun

No wonder dps queues are full. Still prefer tanking though

>>383406732
>caring what /v/ thinks
That's several levels more faggotry than just playing a cat.

>>383406732
>not being a lizard
Female midlander run is just too bad and cats are too common.

>>383394496
TWO

POINT

FIVE

>>383406706
>Why is Laksmi EX so fucking easy
So people who get to end game for the first time only now don't get overwhelmed and discouraged from end game content.
>and why is the drop rate on these dogs so bad.
So people would have a reason to do it after the first week.

>>383406884
I don't even think it's a vocal minority. It's just a circlejerk joke that everyone carries on.

Baiting special snowflake lizards and midblanders is too easy.

>>383404834
They still don't look good in heavy armor and robes. If you think they do you're just falling for the optical illusion. If you look at them normally you can still see their proportions are fucked. They even have tinier heads than the smaller races despite their bodies being significantly bigger.

>>383407028
The lizard race looks like shit though.

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anti-afk measures were a fucking mistake

When are they going to nerf SAM and buff glorious BLM.

Why do all miqote players like cock so much?

captcha catania calle

>>383407324
BLM is already good, you fag

>>383407295
You take that back.
Also face 4 is best face

>>383407421
Because cats are cancer.

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id play this game if it didnt have a shitty subscription based model, id pay 60 dollars just to actually avoid it

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What will the final wolf mount look like?

Massive DRK damage buffs when?

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>job is extremely fun in pvp but complete and utter shit in pve

>>383407294
What an awful opinion.

>>383407608

60 bucks and you should avoid it for about 4 months friend

>>383407536
The design looks incredibly awkward and there was already a much better version in the concept art.

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>>383394496
Started playing the other day and I fucking love this game. So gd comfy and actually engrossing.

>>383407421
>Why do all female players like cock so much?
Because they're all faggots.
No race is better than the other, unless you're a special snowflake desperately trying to shit on other races to make yourself look good You're not

>>383407651
what is MCH

Secret of the lily might actually be the most offensive bit of poor game design I've ever seen.
>20% chance that when you crit heal with JUST cure I or II that asylum or assize will have their already short cooldowns reduced by five(!) seconds
WHO fucking thought this was a good trait

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>>383406732
>not liking midlander

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>queue for duty as a tank
>have to wait more than THIRTY seconds

what is this BULLSHIT

>>383407653
All I want is for Elezen to look good.

>>383407536
>face 4

fuck no. face 1 and 2 are the only acceptable ones. the rest are bad

What faces are the best for each race?

>>383406884
Cats are obnoxious why does everyone want to play a cat? They're easily the most punchable race in the game. For every decent cat there's like, at least 10 obnoxious ones.

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>>383407794
>have both healer and tank at 70
>queue as tank by default, if it doesn't pop in 5 seconds queue as healer
>instantly pops
feels fucking good man

>>383407719
I'm legitimately curious why so many people think mch is good in pvp now. Are you all pvp'ing for the first time or something? Cause I'll grant you mch was godlike back in 3.x (but most people probably didnt even touch pvp back then), but right now bard does everything it does better there too.

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>>383407662
i actually like to own the games i spend money on

>>383407786
I'm not certain on the crit chance in XIV so if I'm off then forgive me but that basically amounts to 20% chance of a 10-15% chance to reduce your cooldowns by a negligible amount. Would someone who isn't a retard like to tell me what that makes the chance of Secret of the Lily proccing is?

>>383407932
it's easy to see
it's a fucking cat girl/guy
internet is full of perverts and weebs

>>383407794
>mfw trying to level a dps after doing PLD and DRK
These poor fucks
How do they even play this game

>>383407608
Thank fuck it does to keep Brazil fucks like you out of it.

>>383407951
it might be better, but it doesn't change the fact that MCH is still pretty damn strong. the top 10 damage dealers of every frontline i've been in are usually a mix of MCH, SMN, and BRD.

also if you bothered to read he asked for a class that was shit in pve but great in pvp

>>383407673
All of the races looks better in concep art and pictures

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>>383407819
But they do look good. The important ones, I mean.
Fapping to yourself is gay.

>>383407521
Nah, it has some issues.

Like doing less damage than SAM, and doing as much damage as RDM. Or the QoL issues with tightness of rotation and mp ticks.

>>383407986
And the rest of us like a quality game without P2W microtransactions everywhere.
There are more than enough dogshit F2P mmo's on the market that scam your wallet even harder by limiting the game based on how many microtransactions you can afford. Go play those instead.

>>383407640
Damage buffs are less important than giving them some mitigation that isn't embarrassingly poor next to the other tanks.

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>Get Susano dog before weapon
>Never get Lakshmi dog and that fight puts me to sleep
>Omega releases
>Get all my drops in a couple hours
>Haven't logged in since

>>383408078
I watch a lot of Netflix

>>383408105
Speaking of twins.

God I wanna fuck Alaises brains out while she tries to be condescending and make Alp suck my dick when I cum

>>383407635
sauce?

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>>383408209

>>383404834
Elezen look fucking awful, period. If you want to wear full-plate go male Hyur, either clan.

>don't even need to CD for both Primal tank busters anymore

Who /PLD/ here?

>>383407640
>best MT damage
>wants more
DRK is actually is a pretty decent place right now

>>383408142
>And the rest of us like a quality game without P2W microtransactions everywhere.
Remember to buy some extra retainers for only a tiny bit added to your sub fee. :^) You want to make money crafting, right?

>>383408078
Crafting and Gathering is the only explanation.

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Im trying to recreate this Highlander but I cant get the skin tone, nose and mouth right, welp.

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>>383408279
Never ever.

>>383408314
It's so insulting that they can get away with turning the bank into a money-making scheme

>>383408309
>ilvl 312
>still needs to use 2 (TWO) CDs for stormsplitter
who /cucknight/ here

>>383406732
I'd fantasia into midlander if not for "don't hit on me silly boys" animations and sunc@ name

>>383407635
amaterasu obviously

>>383408194
>WAR has better mitigation than DRK
Come on now.

>>383408310
You mean best TANK STANCE damage. DRK is in a good place for progression, when you're playing defensively anyway, but they're going to drop off the face of the planet as soon as prog is over.

And even then they basically just got lucky that Omega has mostly magic tankbusters. If those were physical then they'd be fucked.

>>383408275
>require leveling all 8 crafting classes to stand a chance
>require leveling gatherers to make it even a little affordable
>no quests, no challenge log, no POTD like battle classes have, just pure grind and limited leves

THANKS YOSHI

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>>383408539
>Can survive empowered pull with no Vril and two CDs

I'll protect you DRK

>>383408646
WAR's personal mitigation completely shits on both of the other two tanks, to the point where WAR can completely neglect the strongest defensive skill in the game and still be competitive with a DRK or PLD using their entire toolkit.

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>>383404834
>getting pigeon holed into popcan armor

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>XIV threads on /v/
>boring discussions about gameplay balance and people complaining that shitters playing like shitters
>WoW threads on /v/
>hot nostalgia-flavoured space goat/knife ear porn dump and tons of slutposting that will keep the janitor's hands on his dick (and away from the delete button)
No wonder you fags get kicked out of /v/ all the time.

>>383408939
They have zero way to mitigate partywide damage and don't perform any better than the other two at self-mitigation, don't make me laugh.

>>383409023
Ah yeah forgot you're not allowed to talk about games on /v/.

Come one boys back to /vg/

>>383409091
>They have zero way to mitigate partywide damage
Reprisal :^)

>>383408939
>this whole post

Back to the shed *blocks your path*

>>383409112
>video game discussion
>/vg/
>any vidya related board
LOL
It's like you don't understand how boards workz.

>>383409270
That's every tank, not WAR. Back to dropping from the 2nd enmity spot with you.

>>383409023
Thats it im going to marry a lizard and have weird half breeds

>>383409375
Neither does anyone here.

>>383409091
He said personal jesus christ

>DRG felt great in both ARR and HW.
>It feels clunkier than a golem and your skills line up as well as a child's scribbles.

Why the fuck does LotD take so long to charge? Why is B4B 80 seconds instead of 90? Why does Dragon Sight not line up with any of your other cds? Why is disembowel's debuff nerfed but none of the others are? I could live with being the support DPS if this shit made sense.

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>>383409310

>>383394780
>added inventory space
>no added armory chest space

Why do SE always half ass everything?

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>>383409529
No u

>>383409547
Its not like I can just walk through them...

>>383409591
they did add armory chest space though

Is Bard fun?
I want to be a gay singing man with some song and notes n shiet
Just want to shoot arrows bruh

>>383409591
But they did?

>>383394780
>>383409591
When will we get an update that makes the armoire not completely fucking useless?

>>383409697
Bard is the best it has ever been

>>383409663
Exactly

>>383405429
It's drg

Heavy thrust and spamming impulse drive did more damage while leveling in arr. In your 40s you start using the other buttons

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>>383408309
>Healing a FL
>PLD puts Cover on me and wards off attackers

>>383409539
Good thing I also commented on that then.

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>>383400912
DPS here, I've seen tanks do it too. Haven.t seen any healers do it though, probably because it requires.

>>383409697
Fuck yes my dude. I'm leveling it atm and it feels fucking amazing at level 64 and the level 70 skill sounds fucking awesome too.

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>>383409854
>requires doing dps*

>>383409696
Really? When I logged back I for the first time after sb came out, it wasn't any different.

>>383409697
>I DON'T want to be*

>>383401127
AST is stupid. They heal for more than everyone with less mana. Under a developer that wasn't insane, that would've lasted a got dang week. Instead it'll probably last for months.

>>383409976
there's 10 more spaces for each slot

>>383409697
You will be shooting arrows, then shooting four different kind of lasers.

Oh and you will sing a song or so every 30/30/20 seconds to give yourself some good stuff and your party crit/direct hit.

Its great, its fun, and seeing 20k Pitch Perfects is kinda amusing.

>>383410125
4.0 WAR is noose-hanging tier. Goddamn it feels like pure ass to play. It's kind of amazing how they completely swapped PLD and WAR in that sense, now PLD is satisfying as fuck.

>>383410378
>They want to balance tanks before adding a new one

>Completely buff the shit out of PLD and fuck over the other two

>>383410507
>Fuck over the other two

DRK is great, WAR is the only one suffering right now

>>383410125
What?

>>383409749
So many pieces from promotional events that can't be stored. FUCK

>>383408095
They're only 'great' right now because there are tons of first timers in PvP and really, its more a ranged thing than a mch thing - melee get shafted really hard in frontlines with so much open space and nowhere to hide.

By that metric every ranged job is good now, but bard is pretty much the only one whose gimmicks cant be played around. The SMNs you see with top damage done are just padding with dots and bane and its pretty much inconsequential damage.

>>383410648
All DRK has in blackest night and bloodspiller spam

>>383410751
Feelsbad.jpg

What are some cool mounts?

>>383410648
Lvl 70 DRK remain mostly the same instead of improving like PLD did. Changes like nerfing DP, removing Low Blow and not replacing old Reprisal just boggle my mind.

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>someone's using the exact same glamour as you

>>383409091
>zero way to mitigate partywide damage
Only Paladin can mitigate partywide damage. That's PLD's whole schtick, and PLD's personal defense is really poor in trade for it.

DRK can put a shield on ONE person, for 5 seconds, every 15 seconds. That's not "party wide mitigation".

> don't perform any better than the other two at self-mitigation

You're a fucking moron.

PLD's active mitigation is shit compared to both other tanks, and all they have to stack with it aside from role skills is Sentinel, which has the same cooldown as WAR's invulnerability skill, and Hallowed Ground, which can be used once per fight.

WAR has the strongest (defensively) active mitigation skill in the game, has all the same role skills, has an invulnerability skill on a 180s cooldown, and has Vengeance, Thrill of Battle, and Raw Intuition on top of that.

DRK has a good active mitigation skill (not as strong as Inner Beast defensively but has fewer drawbacks), a so-so invulnerability skill, but if the tankbusters aren't magical, all they have to pair it with besides role skills is Shadow Wall, which is on the same cooldown as Holmgang, has a shorter duration and longer cooldown than Vengeance (and doesn't have a damage reflect), and is just a straight up inferior version of Sentinel.

WAR can pair Vengeance with Raw Intuition every 60s, for 44% effective mitigation, and every other 60s can pair Thrill with Rampart for 33% effective mitigation, still has Holmgang every three minutes, and can use Inner Beast to mitigate on top of all that.

PLD can block... And do a Sentinel once every 3 minutes, Rampart every minute and a half, HG once a fight.

DRK can shield themselves... And do Shadow Wall every 3 minutes, Rampart every minute and a half, LD twice a fight.

The fact that Warrior players got a free ride through Heavensward on an overpowered class that could overperform without knowing how the game works doesn't mean that WAR isn't still the best tank for personal mitigation.

>>383410905
Uraeus coat c@t I presume?

I'm not the only still maiming SCH am I?

>>383410507
>WAR acts like smug douches for and entire expansion
>gets shit on

Divine Justice comes to all.

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>>383410905
>he uses the Uraeus Coat, Shisui set, Thavnairian gear, or Ramie Poncho

>>383403027

Reminder that all Elezen's are beautiful.

I want yshtola to ride me

>>383409697
It's fucking amazing

It is so much fun to play. Your songs are no useful all the time rather than just when people need tp/mp in raids

>>383411172
What does that have anything to do with what I said?

>>383410941
so we've moved from saying SCH is secretly the best healer to saying WAR is secretly the best tank, then?

>>383410941
Your vastly underestimating block. Warriors suck ass to heal fuck off.

>>383410941
You shouldn't be pairing CD together unless your healer is complete ass

>>383410814
Companion chocobo is the best.

>>383411225
I want Lyse to sit on my face.

>>383410941
I think you're forgetting the other tanks have a passive 20% damage reduction from their tankstance my boy.
>Forgetting Shelltron and Clemency
>Forgetting Dark Mind
The only thing WAR have currently over the other two tanks is Holmgang which is OP as fuck. Vengeance being on a lower CD for no reason kinda got fixed with Blackest Night and the buff to block.

>>383394496
>So I'm level 36 and I've still been spamming the same two shitty attack moves since the start with zero challenge
Maybe you need to play other genres?
I spammed 2 spells since everquest, it has nothing to do with mmo being good/bad

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>>383394496
gilgamesh, not even once

>>383411292
Stat mad WARcuck :^)

>>383396180
From what I experience, every match is a coin flip on who mael wants to tunnel vision. They never seem to know what an objective is, go after 1 GC and let the other win.

>>383407651
altough not bad in any way, im terrible with BRD in pve but its hella fun in pvp, i just need to practice and remind myself to keep songs on a 100% uptime

>>383411769
Theres already a big roe FC in gilga, posers.

>>383410941
PLD and DRK get a flat 20% damage reduction while in tank stance, WAR does not

>>383411821
I have all 3 tanks at 70

Try again you bird chest faggot

>tfw Omega is now the best server to be on

>>383411148
I'm switch to SCH from WHM around 3.4 and stuck with it to 70. Maybe it's because I'm used to managing mana on 3.X WHM but it's not nearly as bad as the whiners are pretending. And chain strat is boss

>>383406836
It's all the jump potion shitters, everything Shinryu uses comes from primals everyone but them had to beat during the story so they can't handle it

>>383411148
Hopefully. You fuckers are bottom-tier now.

>>383412008
>tfw Zalera is filling up with memers, Balmongrels and other nondesirables

>>383394496
Stop playing mmos it's a dead genre

> its a PLD wont use cover, interception or requiescat into holy spirit episode
> let alone use clemency on the others
> wont even touch any of their fancy cooldowns
i want shitters to stop playing MY job

i fapped to alphinaud

>>383412271
Stop living, it's a dead race

>>383412271
make me

Are there rare cool things I can find while fishing to make it fun like in WoW?

So, how long until thread will be deleted?

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>>383412339
perfectly understandable.

Who is the faggot that started the tank i270 str accessory meme? I need to see where these retarded shitters come from.

>>383411380
Block is not special. It's 20-25% mitigation depending on the shield (and we're never getting tower shields back again).

You're making the mistake of overestimating block because all the "tankbuster" damage in the game that's current content consists of a single hit with a cast bar. Sheltron might as well be Anticipation as soon as we start seeing bosses with multi-hit tankbusters.

Bulwark is RNG, and on a 3-minute cooldown. Passage of Arms stops you from attacking and moving while you use it, and if you use it for personal mitigation, you've lose half of your party mitigation.

>>383411429
No, you should almost always be pairing CDs for tankbusters, because outside of tankbusters incoming damage is predictable and in no danger of killing you.

But if you want to go down that road... WAR's CD uptime, if you spread them out, is 22% each on Rampart and Raw Intuition, 17% on Thrill of Battle, and 12% on Vengeance. Like 73% uptime - and if you're using Inner Beast on top of that, that's up to 6s every 15s, which is 40% uptime. If you use IB between your standard cooldowns, WAR has more than 100% uptime.

PLD has Rampart (22%), Bulwark (8.3%), Sentinel (5.5%), and Hallowed Ground (2.4%). Less than 40% uptime, unless you're planning on sitting around not attacking for the full duration of Passage of Arms.

DRK is barely above 30% in a physical-only fight, and still not even 50% in a magic fight where Dark Mind can shine.

>>383411594
>>383411971
The 20% damage reduction in Shield Oath/Grit is mathematically equivalent to the 25% HP bonus in Defiance in terms of eHP, and not meaningfully better than the 20% healing bonus in terms of effective healing. WAR is not at a disadvantage in tank stance unless you don't understand simple arithmetic.

>>383412387
Bikinis

and you can get minions from ventures, although that's not something you do yourself

>>383412432
>Who is the faggot that started the tank i270 str accessory meme?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoki_Yoshida

>>383412432
YO YO YO ITS YA BOY

>>383412426
I want alphinaud to suck my light blessed dick while her sister licks my ass.
Also lyse should be watching.

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>game has new dungeons
>always end up in ARR or early HW shit with the roulette
I want this meme to end.

>>383408275
Does he spend time which his family let alone have one? He's always portrayed as busy working on XIV.

Do not play FFX14 for its combat. Its not a game about its combat. Nor its class system. Both are casual as possible and are only a tacked on system so people can live out their housing and rp fantasies. Thats literally all this game is good for.

>>383412432
How is it a meme when 90% of your skills scale off STR?

I bet the XIVfus would all look good pregnant. Especially Alisaie.

>>383410783
>All DRK has is the best mitigation CD in the game

Yeah man you're right it's not so great

>>383410846
Maybe you need to consider that improving paladin was required to make it good and DRK was already good and rebalancing 70 DRK to have the same strength as 60 DRK still means its good

>>383408341
Is that a graphics mod?

>>383412463
>Forgetting about Blackest Night
>Forgetting Shelltron and Clemency yet again
>Forgetting how IB is no longer as easily accessible as before
>CD uptime matters enough to take one tank over the other

>>383413070
I see you don't know about holmgang and hallowed ground that's ok though

>>383412463
>and we're never getting tower shields back again
The current verity shield is a tower shield for PLD. Soooo

What percent of catboys are actually good at the game? <1%?

>>383413070
With PLD it feels like a step forward for the class, with DRK it feels like they got put at the beginning of the road again and you're walking to where you were before.

>>383413228
Blackest Night is far, far more spammable than either of those

>>383413228
>15s CD for 20% mitigation
>At literally no loss, is now a DPS gain with bloodspiller buff

Nah man you're still right good on you

>>383412463
Extra healing from defiance doesnt work on abilities from healers which is kind of a hindrance to be honest.

>>383413286
That's the point. DRK was already good, they just shifted the class around because it didn't need to be better.

tfw no cute cat gf

>>383412432
Xeno?

>>383412283
>expecting casuals to be able to multi task

Im sure about half the game plays on gamepad anyway. PLD takes more thinking to play fully than the other tanks.

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>Try out WAR in PVP again
>Try very fucking hard to make it work
>It fucking sucks
Like, holy shit, I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with the PVP WAR.
It feels like a poop man DPS.

You have absolutely no defense at all compared to DRK's Blackest Night or PLD's Clemency and Hallowed Ground so you're forced to bring the Heal and Defense buff while both of them can pick up Sprint without problem.
WAR doesn't have a stun, while DRK and PLD have it.
DRK have Sole Suvivor has an option to get back some blackblood while WAR has absolutelly no way to up their gauge outside of hitting stuff.

Fuck, it's depressing that every DPS can solo a WAR without his gauge full, what the fuck were they thinking?

Meanwhile I jump on DRK and get scores like this.

Is there a comfier zone than Coerthas?
I love snow.

>>383410378
Warrior feel literally the same as before. Sure they didn't get as cool new toys as other jobs, but I still like the job as much as before.

>>383413479
>WAR doesn't have a stun
all tanks have a stun. use your cross class skills more and all your war problems are solved.

I'm realizing everyone who is saying war cant do this or that are forgetting that role skills exist for a reason. About half of them give WAR all he needs for everything he is missing

>rampart for more defense
>the heal buff skill, clairovoyence or whatever
>provoke
>the new aoe enmity ability

>>383413459
I guess? Who is it? Some youtuber? I just know every retard tank who does this in my groups has been absolute trash.

>>383413792
Read that post again.

>>383413414
I don't care if the class is good or bad, I care if they're expanded in a meaningful way. Blackest Night is a good addition, shitty Bloodspiller/Quietus and nerfing and gutting their existing toolkit isn't. WAR is just more of the same and isn't exciting at all to play.

PLDs got more fun, the others didn't, that's my problem here.

>>383413479
>It feels like a poop man DPS.
Just about makes up for all those berserk macros i've seen for the past 4 years

>>383413792

Yeah let me know when you can cross role in PvP.

You have a set kit that you can alter in very limited ways, none of which allows you to take a stun.

Also can confirm warrior is shit in PvP and drk is amazing.

>>383413904
WAR doesn't have berserk in PVP too.

>>383413950
Thats why I dont pvp in this game. The combat system does not lead itself to fun pvping. Now GW2 or Ragnarok Online, those were fun ass pvping.

>>383413836
You need to look at the bigger picture then

4.0 was about rebalancing classes because 3.0 was "too complex" (it wasn't.) Almost every class that WASNT paladin got shifted around to basically end up exactly where they were at 60. Paladin was just so barebones that it actually got unique class changes because of how bad it was.

>>383413792
Replying to posts based only on "keywords" instead of reading the whole thing is a terrible habit. You aren't a bot, anon, you can do better than that.

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>tfw accidentally made my hyur too cute

>>38339449

It will never get good, this game is for dumb people who dont actually play vidya

>>383412817
Makes me think of when he defended his sexuality by posting on the forums "I'm normal!"

>>383414089
pld wasnt bad. I played it from arr to now. If you call being too simple bad, I might agree with you. But pld is probably the most self sufficient and party helpful class there is. The downside is that it makes solo content slower due to low dps.

>>383414089
This doesn't justify gutting existing toolkits. There was no reason to nerf and further homogenize the other tanks to make PLD viable.

>>383412008
Too popular. I'm not used to queues. Especially when I transferred from US server where the prime time was different from my prime time.

>>383407635
dude
you CANT just upload this and NOT put sauce
are you fucking insane?

I'm planning to level my BLM after I'm done with RDM. Does BLM still do bigdick deeps or did SAM stole the spot?
I've also read rumors that BLM is gonna get nerfed because of how busted Foul is.

>>383413479
I fucking love the burst damage of SMN in PVP. And healing as a WHM is just hitting everyone with Regen. I get top of the healed HP list doing just that.

>>383414126
Fuck off. I dont care for people whining about FF14's terrible pvp system. The pvp system is a literally tag you're it game. It's boring as fuck and Square wont ever make it better until they make the combat more interesting.

>>383414319
How do we fix XIV's PVP?

>>383414219
I'm going to respectfully disagree with you after having to heal paladins through a4s. The class simply wasn't comparable. Even if you dont want to count raids, the class not having aoe in dungeons was pretty fucking sad man.

>>383414258
They gutted everyone's tool kit for button bloat man. The gutting of toolkits wasn't to make paladin viable, it was just their plan for 4.0 correlation =/= causation. DRK is fucking good right now even if it lost abilities.

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Who /femroe/ here?

>>383414443
MAKE THE OTHER MAPS POPULAR
IM TIRED OF SHATTER

>SAM is super easy
>Literally at their lowest they do the best DPS
>No penalty or damage drop off

Nerf this piece of shit already.

>>383414287
Blm's got some critical issues at the moment. SAM destroys all dps currently.

Honestly, don't bother with Blm until the buffs it's inevitably going to receive.

>>383412221
>Cactaur used to be midsized and comfy and with a NN that was actually chill
>now it's full of balmung and gilgamesh refugees and the NN is full of attention whoring memers that constantly ramble about sex and waifus if no one is giving them attention
Unlock the containment servers when

>>383414582
Not until I get my 300 wins senpai.
29 more to go.

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>The main story roulette is only comprised of the two most boring dungeons in the game

>>383414502
>I'm going to respectfully disagree with you after having to heal paladins through a4s.
>doing raids ever in this game

Again, FF14's combat is not fun. To the point I will never do a raid. A raid requires second decisions and non shitty servers. Neither that FF14 lends itself well to. When you hit an ability, and you can't quickly move to another cause the server has a hidden tick before it allows the next ability to go off, your game is not competitive enough to be able to do raid stuff. In any other mmowith a slicker combat system, you can make up for that with quicker thinking. You cant in FF14. You're restricted by their gcd and the server tick, and whatever the fuck animation lock is.

>>383414287
BLM is probably in the front running to get buffed actually, along with DRG and MCH, based on Yoshi's latest post on the matter.

They do around the same damage as RDM, slightly more in full turret scenarios, and definitely less in movement heavy fights or fights with several smaller invulnerabilities/stuns. Based on SE's own balance criteria, they should be doing near SAM numbers, as they have no party buffs, and get affected largely by mechanics because of their nature as a turreting, timer-based job.

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>leveling roulette
>ifrit story mode
>2 million exp in 5 seconds

>>383414718
>Wanting to chance getting ARF
Be careful what you wish for.

>>383414809
>server tick for abilities

Alright man, not only are you commenting on class balance when you're admitting to not caring about things were class balance matters, you're also just flat out wrong. Server tick has nothing to do with ability delay

I get you wanna comment but at least be knowledgeable at it when you do

>>383407847
you mean face 1 and face 3

>>383394780
Give us an NPC that least turns a set of 5 or 6 if you include weapon into a singular item, kinda like a reverse lv.70 AF3 item

>>383414582
>mfw I always queue for the roulette
>for the past week it's always shatter
I don't mind it tbqh, but I did like playing all the modes.

>>383414551
Fuck off to /xivg/, you michael cera loving fuck

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>>383414551

>>383414815
They're ranged, so they should not be doing the same as SAM.

>>383414820
>Those PSO sexy message
I fapped to some of them when I was a teen

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>>383414624
>Try out samurai after i finish the story
>20k direct hit crit
Im never going back

>>383414968
>be knowledgeable

I know more about the game than you cause I've worked on mmos before and know how the backend works. FF14's way of dealing with actions through from client to server is the most shitty implementation possible. I dont know why a AAA company with a supposed top tier franchise has such shitty networking. Tera, a F2P game has better servers than FF14. There shouldn't be any delays or slow uploads either. FF14's packet size is no different from any other mmo. It makes no damn sense other than being cheap on Square's end.

>>383415264
It has nothing to do with server tick though, unless you have proof of that.

>>383413265
He's not talking about glamour aesthetics, anon.

The game used to have Tower Shields, Kite Shields, and Bucklers.
Tower Shields blocked a huge amount of damage, but didn't block very often.
Kite Shields are the current shields, that block a medium amount of damage, a medium amount of the time.
Bucklers were light shields that didn't block very much damage, but had an extremely high block rate.

I don't think we've seen a Buckler since ARR, and the last Tower Shields we saw were in 3.0 and 3.1.

>>383413103
>>Forgetting how IB is no longer as easily accessible as before
It seems that anon assumes tanking on tank stance for all tanks, in which case Inner Beast could be argued to be more accessible than before as you can use it whenever you meter is between 50 and 100, if for some reason, you need panic mitigation.

>>383414809
what's it like, being the dumbest person on /v/ right now

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>>383406280
>tfw been forcing myself to stay awake until I reach that level of tired where your heart starts to beat really fast, your head hurts, and you literally cannot stay awake
>still have never seen the fox or Ixion spawn

>>383414815
This.

Blm is firmly in the "needs buffs" category. It's not quite on the level of drg, mch or war which honestly need fucking redesigning at this point, but it does need potency buffs badly to fire iv.

>>383415365
>verity gear
>glamour

what

>>383415236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1URFEoRpss8

>>383415126
No, they're a caster, one with 3 second cast times and tight timers to upkeep at that. There's a difference between that and a BRD/MCH that can freely move.

In current encounters, they're affected by mechanics way more than SAM currently. In terms of timers, they're probably more comparable to DRG, which also needs a buff.

>>383415470
>>/xvig/

>>383415126
>This argument again

oh god please no

>>383414815
>BLM should have SAM damage but also have the long range they have
No

>>383415515
Yoshi p has expressed time and time again that he feels as if ranged, including casters. Should not do as much dps as Melee. So it'll stay that way. Probably will be brought up to NIN levels, but nowhere near SAM.

>>383415515
The way WoW fixed their mage was to make mages be able to instant cast more from procs, but WoW also has different specs for different playstyles. Honestly, BLM does not lead itself well to WoW-like mechanics. BLM right now feels too much like Arcane class from WoW, with no options to change to the more movement orientated frost or fire classes. If anything, BLM needs more fluid mechanics, but I think at this point, the design team behind this game doesnt know what its doing.

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>>383415570
No this is /xivg/

I've got work tomorrow but I decided to stay up all night to level FSH. I should really work on my way of making life decisions.

>>383415594
You're basically asking for a ranged SAM which in and of itself shows how retarded you are. If you had any idea of how cancer the BRD/MCH/NIN/DRG meta was you'd understand why they reduced ranged dps damage as a whole.

>>383415445
>It was a crit but not a direct crit
We can go further

>>383415795
why would you do that?

>>383415436
>Astral Fire/Umbral Ice 15s timer
>Fire IV/Blizzard IV 280 potency
>Blizzard spells used in Umbral Ice no longer cost MP
>Freeze gives 1 Umbral Heart and 3 Umbral Ice stacks (not like BLM needs anything in AOE, but this would actually make Freeze useful)

There you go, fixed the job.

>>383415837
Nigga, that wasn't even buffed Midare but just Gurren.

>>383415795
Is there even any profit for FSH?

>>383415801
>If you had any idea of how cancer the BRD/MCH/NIN/DRG meta was you'd understand why they reduced ranged dps damage as a whole.

You realize that has absolutely nothing to do with BLM right? Do you even understand why that comp was strong. It's not damage uptime you fucking mongol

>>383415842
Because I'm an absolute madman.

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>>383415470
Looks like garbage compared to my dragon girl

I want that slice in half emote. Somebody told me that it costs like $150 but what's the real price?

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>>383415407
But this is better than weekly lockouts/tomes. AM I RIGHT!?

>>383415795
The real challenge is to not fall asleep while fishing

>>383415623
And yet, this matters why?

Their damage gets fucked over the most by what bosses currently, and historically have done. There's usually not too many fights that actually screw over melee in this game. To the point where triple melee is actually extremely viable, and is probably better right now than bringing a caster.

>>383415980
>au ras
>not garbage already

>>383415925
It exactly is damage uptime, the entire reason why BRD and MCH were buffed to such a point was because BRD and MCH mains whined like BLM and DRG mains are now.

That resulted in complete over buffing making BRD and MCH who were basically casters do more damage at a ranger than Melee.

This returned things to the 2.0 Meta of Ranged being hands down better than Melee, something which they refuse to do again also.

>BLM I-ISN'T RANGED S-SINCE IT HAS A C-CAST TIME.

You're retarded.

>>383416060
Azim Steppes certainly made me like the Au ra more. The people who play them are still cancer though.

>>383416040
Just gotta watch something on your second screen.

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>3.0 BLM in PVP
>Can be good but tricky to use
>4.0 BLM
FIRE 4 TO FOUL FUCK YEAH

>>383416058
RDM is probably more viable than MNK or DRG at this point

>>383416058
Because you can always engage your target no matter how far you are from there, no matter what mechanic is happening.

>>383415801
That meta existed because of stacking party damage buffs, Foe and Hypercharge were stupid good, and Disembowel got more worth. If BRD/MCH stayed bad, you would have been taking MCH/DRG/NIN/MNK to speed kills in Creator.

>>383416257
unless it's Susano's turn to run back and forth, then you're not doing dick while melee can keep DPSing

>>383416058
RDM is hella more viable than MNK and DRG, you're retarded, instead of asking for damage you should be asking for utility.

>>383416356
>Confirmed utter shit

Just stop. If you want mobility switch classes you autist it sounds like you just don't want to play an actual caster.

>>383416385
>Giving BLM utility
>Not damage

Literally goes against the job's design.

>>383416192
>unironically liking horsefuckers and literal savages
Even their lore is garbage

>>383416156
BRD and MCH were strong because of how well they synergized with DRG and NIN and in turn synergized with every other class in the raid. Their actual raid strengths is the fact that they had massive party utility while also doing high damage and having high mobility. BLM has neither high utility, mobility, or damage right now. You can look at parses for any of the good runs back in alexander and see that melee uptime is almost near perfect regardless of mechanics and you're fucking daft if you think 1 or 2 extra gcds or so is a reason a class like BLM with no utility should not do damage when they in turn lose 1 or 2 extra gcds all the fucking time due to mechanics.

Jesus christ this is the same argument as the day before and you're serious the most delusional person I have ever met. The amount of mental gymnastics you go through every time triggers the fuck out of me. I'm done with this.

>>383416498
nigga I love BLM but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge its flaws

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>>383416192
fug u m8

>>383416356
You can slidecast that. What actually screws over timer based rotations is that stun, to the point where you have to pray that you don't get stunned at the wrong time, or just completely neuter that rotation cycle.

>>383416504
You think DMG is gonna make you more viable than RDM? it won't, absolutely won't. Unless you do ABOVE SAM damage you will still be cucked by RDM.

And Yoshi P has already stated he has no issue with SAM right now nor sees a need to buff any of the other jobs until after savage comes out. The most likely buffs are SCH and WAR

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>>383414551
me, and I love it

>>383413103
Blackest Night is great but it's a one-time shield. It's fantastic for taking single-hit tankbusters, but it's total shit if you're taking high amounts of damage for an extended period of time. (and I'm using the word 'extended' to mean 'not instantaneous', as in, the 6s duration on Inner Beast will mitigate far, far, far more damage in a big dungeon pull than the 20% shield on Blackest Night.

Sheltron is the same, but moreso, because it literally only affects one attack, so you can intend to eat a cleave, and have it get wasted on an auto-attack. Clemency is a big fucking nothing because it's still a bad idea for PLD to be breaking combos and wasting GCDs healing itself, especially now that their MP is also used for their most powerful burst windows.

IB is much more easily accessible than before. It took 7-8 GCDs to build up enough stacks to use IB, whereas now it takes two combos, and you couldn't stockpile extra stacks before, whereas you can store up to 10 now.
>But my gauge decay on stance swap!
Cry about it, faggot

CD uptime matters because it's a function of CD duration and CD frequency. If a fight lasts ten minutes, you're only going to get to use a skill like Sentinel or Shadow Wall three times (maybe four if there's a tankbuster right at the start and then none for a while), but you'll easily get 5 uses of a skill like Vengeance or Thrill of Battle. Now multiply that by 2 comparing Bulwark/Sentinel to Thrill/Vengeance, and you're looking at usually 6 uses to 10.

Now factor in that you can use Holmgang on the same CD as Sentinel, and now you've just got your 3 extra Bulwarks (and, being fair, one Hallowed Ground per fight) versus 10 uses of Thrill/Vengeance.

Or for that matter, just look at a dungeon instead of a raid, and try to say that CD uptime doesn't matter. WAR has mitigation from the start of every pull to the end, if they want it, while Paladin starts to run dry if they use more than 1-2 per pull.

>>383416615
>Everyone and their grandmother wearing those stupid ears now
>Even cats who already have ears up there
That fate was a mistake