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Anyone just not want to play fighting games anymore? The whole

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Anyone just not want to play fighting games anymore?

The whole fucking genre has gone to absolute garbage this gen.

>play Guilty Gear

Fuck you.
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Every fighting game not made by Capcom is fine though. It's literally only them fucking up, why do I care? They don't represent the entire genre.
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>>383374936
Tekken is ABSOLUTELY shit and anyone overlooking that is a goddamn fanboy.

Also KoF XIV sucks.
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>Tekken 7
>UNIEL
>DBZ
>Injustice 2
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>>383374936
I don't know man, I played KOF XIV and it's pretty bad aswell.
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>>383374936
And this game is a meme.
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>>383374863
Sounds like a personal problem.

Still having a blast with SFV and Tekken.
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>>383375006
>>Injustice 2

Fuck off NRS shill
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>>383374992
If you don't like Tekken 7 you probably don't like Tekken.

>>383375014
To you I guess. It's easily my favorite fighter right now.
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>>383374863
Just play Guilty Gear.
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>>383375104
>To you I guess

Well it's a pretty unpopular game right now so I guess there isn't a whole lot of people who like it.
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>>383375104
I don't like Tekken anymore, that's for sure.
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>>383374863
>Genre is garbage!
>This game is good
>F-fuck you!
Should have posted Donte, would have gone nicely with your post
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play Guilty Gear fucker
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>>383374863
>Play Guilty Gear
>"Fuck you"
Ok, you don't like fighting games anymore, but that doesn't mean nobody else does.
What is the point of this thread exactly?
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>>383375169
Hey, I have like...6 XX games in my collection and I never got good at any of them.

It's not for me.
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Jokes aside I think you should try Xrd OP, Rev 2 is good and probably the best fighting game released this year despite being more of a balance patch than anything.
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>>383375143
Welcome to KoF in the US. It was never popular here. It's doing fine worldwide, China got way the fuck in once the PC release came out. If you play KoF you knew what the deal was a decade ago.
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>>383375076
With as shit taste as OP I was wondering if the faggot would actually like NRShit
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Is it worth getting into both Guilty Gear and Blazblue?
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>>383374863
Go back the new Arcana Heart.
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>>383375321
Sure why not.
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>>383375207
/v/log posting
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>>383375321
It isn't worth getting into more than one fighting game at the same time unless you have a lot of free time, choose one.
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>>383375223
Don't know what to tell you then. If I want a fighting game these days I go to Fightcade and shit around in Garou or meme on people with Dio in HftF.
>>383375321
You'll inevitably like one more than the other. Pirate and try both, you'll feel the difference.
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>>383375321
GG will probably be more versions coming so the scene would be alive for quite some time

As for BB, wait if this EVO has any news for it. If not then it's dead unless you are Jap and play in arcades
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kinda off topic but I would like to ask something, why is that when you block a hitstun attack you can't counter hit while in the animation active frame at the same time as you do an option select?
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>>383375470
What game?
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>tfw you're not even having fun with Tekken 7 but can't put it down because you keep winning

I wish I was better at a different fighting game.
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>>383375470
That's some fine bait.
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>>383375510
Tekken
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>>383375470
Because you're still in the hitstun silly
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>>383375545
But if I block how am I in hitstun? Wouldn't it be blockstun?
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>>383374863
Yeah fuck everyone recommending guilty gear. I got hardcore into that game and got good really fast putting all my time and effort in and scheduling days of work to attend tournaments (east coast) and all kinds of other shit. I played a top tier ease to use and picked him up really fast, applied all my knowledge of previous fighters and started to grasp the meta/most matchups.

And you know what? It's fucking pointless to play online cause u arnt scratching the meta.

If u play localyl u can be the best in your area super quick with online play/training. But then what? No one can beat you. No one cares to.

So then what? Final stage is realizing you have 1 last choice: Pick your life up and motherfuckling move to Japan, California, or New York (maybe new jeresy). And if its NY/NJ you have to deal with a tight nit circle jerk.

OH? ANON? Can't pick your life up and do that? WELL GUESS YOU DONT LIKE FIGHTING GAMES!!!

Fuck you all most this board can't play fighters for shit and I put my back into Darkstalkers on GGPO and PS3 and Super Turbo all the classes and I was a fucking 2008er SF4. I did all the classics and saw the light and FGs are dead.

Only good game traditional 2D is Guilty and you can't play that.

Then there's DBZ FIghter. Looks 10/10 god tier for what a DBZ fighter "should be" though a 1v1 or a 2v2 is fine, it would be "too serious" though they could just have made it an Anime Fighter ABC style basic bitch like Dengeki anime shovelwhere fighters. But nope.

Anyways dbz will be hype etc for a year then it will just die down unless they add like 10-15 characters from original Dragonball (red ribbon, demon king picolo, etc).

They wont. itll fucking end 2 years post production with DBZ Super characters and fuck you skins for $5.
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tekken series is trash. the entire game is just memorizing frame data and strings until a year later you finally stop getting gimmicked out.
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>>383374863
What's wrong senpai?
Play Guilty Gear faggot.
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>>383375805
>a year
lmao look at this scrub
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You described me OP. I personally have been slowly migrating myself away from fightan games, and more towards collectable-card-games. In the past year I have started playing Magic: The Gathering, and Shadowverse. I find that card games give me the same joy that fightan games used to.

Anecdotally, I find it is way easier to find matches of MTG against IRL opponents than it is to find fightan game opponents IRL.

I stopped caring about fightan games when KOF14 came out, and I loved it, but everyone ignored it and kept playing SFV. I'd rather quit fightan games as a genre than play more SFV. I was a huge fan of the Marvel-Capcom games, I loved XMvSF and MVC2 especially, but MVCI looks ASS. 2v2? No Assists? No Sentinel, Magneto, or Storm? NO THANKS!

reddit spacing
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>>383375667
part 2 = realize its all a fucking dance and the onyl thing i could be bothered with is a Super Turbo style game with a cast that never exceeds 16-18 and the enjoyment is the metagame advancing over the years + slow balance patches. bla bla bla not gonna happen doesn't make money

So I started overwatch again going hard core in ranked. u can't even play that game unless you pick one of the 7-8 in meta heroes even 1000 rank retards know that.

carry solo or duo? better faramercy or god tier dps with Tracer/Hanzo/ bla bla bla

Then what?

Meta is realizing games are genearlly a waste to care about you realize in your 20s you putting all this effort in a game and ur not gettin gpaid and you have to work to fucking live

health care is expensive

living alone is expensive you fucking pieces of shit human trash

want to eat out good food $13/day? Pho, Mexican, Indian food etc?

get a real job become a CEO or at least trade school and make $80k
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>>383375805
>getting gimmicked out

Thats a good phrase.
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>>383375805
So every fighting game is trash. I understand now.
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>>383375620
Easier to explain without introducing what's blockstun

>>383375667
Have you like tried playing for fun and helping your local scene grow?
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>>383374863
Fighting games have dug themselves into a hole. The hole of "Combos" in which the game ceases to be about a challenge between two fighters and is reduced to a spectacle of flashy bullshit performed by one player at a time.

We must go back to true fundamentals.
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>>383374863
his gun looks like a toolbar in the thumbnail
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>>383375990
You have a fundamentally flawed revisionist history of what fighting games were and also what they currently are.
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>>383375990
Oh no those combos ruining my fighting games...
Go play divekick or something
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>>383375941
most of them, yeah
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>>383374863
There is one good fighting game in this gen, at least
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>>383375950
the only game i would go to effort to play/enjoy is /like which might as well be a shitpost game is actually aquapazza. there's an articulate reason outside of the nice visuals and aesthetic/sound. its complex

but the game has SF2 feeling footsies and mixups etc. small cast, no updates to fuck with the game etc

id go to a local mall to play it but thats it only like 4-5 people would bother playing aqua
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>>383374863
For you Rocket anything
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>>383375990
thats only marvel and some anime games m8
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>>383376157
reminder that sakurai himself refers to it as a party game
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Play tekken you idiot
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>>383376235
You should try out Koihime Enbu so you can play a more recent dead game.
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>>383376157
>Wii U is "this gen"
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>>383374863
>Having capcom dick so far up your ass
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>>383376305
the new dead game im looking forward to is Blade Strangers acutally i will fucking play that game hardcore for a year even if it means personally running/leading a group of people in my local cofe shop where i can run it. or mall store.

all i want is an interesting game SOMEWHAT related to traditional footsies and minimal combos (4-5 hits max) etc etc game doesn't waste your time.

im happy with just 8 people for a consistently weekly doing a game i actaully like. ive played super turbo to death and the game is still the most fun game out there. its the closest thing to a time respective strait to the core fighter.
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>>383376495
I want to be excited for Blade Strangers but fuck supporting Nicalis.
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>>383376262
There is a thing called "For Glory" right in the game.
And both this and Melee are a part of EVO none less

>>383376306
I wasn't talking about console-wise
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>>383374863
>play Guilty Gear
>Fuck you.

can't blame you desu, GG hasn't been good since AC
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>>383375031
Does meme just mean, "game that will probably be good but I'm a contrarian faggot so I already hate it"?
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>Man fuck capcom ruining the genre their games are so bad fighting games are completely fucked because of them i could write entire books about how bad they're fucking up, capcom is awful
>how about playing other games
>lol no

I've seen this happen for years, even during the SF4 days, and I still don't understand why.
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>>383376801
Actually I made this thread after reading Harada's various dickery to Tekken 7.
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More people from Europe need to play Guilty Gear, it sucks having to go to the American lobbies and has SFV levels of input lag.

The Asian servers are always highly populated but then I'm dealing with up to 20 frames of delay or more, which is quite literally unplayable.
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>>383376873
And what dickery might that be? The fucking customization colors?
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>>383376873
The Dante picture doesn't make things clear but fair enough.
That really doesn't change what I'm saying regardless, though. There are a lot of alternatives in the genre, even older ones with fightcade being a thing, why keep yourself out of them especially to keep a game you clearly dislike playing regardless? It just feels like Stockholm Syndrome.
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>>383377027
Did the PC version receive the latest patch yet?
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>>383374936
>Every fighting game not made by Capcom is fine though

Blazblue is a joke
Guilty Gear is Unga Bunga setplay
KOFXIV is ugly and unbalanced
Injustice 2 plays like a NRS game
Tekken 7 is a 3D fighter
UNIST went full retarded
Pokken is was a joke at launch
ARMS is boring
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>>383377174
Yes.

>>383377264
You could save people a lot of time and just say you have no idea what you're talking about and just parrot memes.
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>>383377264
I have problems with certain fighting games like KOFXIV and Injustice 2 but hating on ALL those games clearly means fighting games are not for you.

Go back to Overwatch kid.
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>>383377415
XIV and Injustice 2 are the least offensive, they're just different and need to work on balancing. ArcShit games are absolutely garbage.
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>>383374863
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>Skullgirls
>GG Xrd Rev 2
>Fightcade
I dunno about you guys, but fighting games are okay and am not worried about them anymore.
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>>383377264
You've missed a few patches. Most notable KoF players place the character tiers some variation of this.
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>>383377627
>Skullgirls

Hello Mike Z
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>>383377559
People keep memeing about the balance in every KoF game regardless of how well the game is actually balanced. People see Benimaru on 3 teams and get mad while they ignore that top 8 at every major for the game like ever will have 16-20 characters. XIV is in a really solid spot right now, every balance patch has been really smart and made a lot of good changes that make the game better every time. The worst thing you could say about XIV is that some characters need buffed, but no one outright needs to get hit with a nerf bat. Beni and Kula could stand to be slightly less strong, but they're not shitheads running amok, they're just more solid than most. Throw some buffs around and it's fine.
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>>383376626
GG never was good, except maybe on Slash
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DBFZ will save the world
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How comes that all the fighting game communities are immature as hell?
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>>383377559
At least you seem to enjoy some fighting games unlike that other guy who is in a fighting game thread saying they all suck.
Even though you're wrong
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>>383377825
you're wrong
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>>383376801
Autism, anon.
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>>383377406
>Yes.

Really now? So where's the infinite Revenge Matching feature? Why can I still see the opponent's rank and character?
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>>383377882
salt
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>>383374863

Well fuck off then and go play 3rd strike on fightcade, you little bitch.
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>>383377908
Every version was broken, up until Slash. AC not onpy was broken, but it's also the most retarded fighting game on the market
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>>383375926
Umad nerd?
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>>383377985
The PC version gets incremental updates. PC has the core features of the new patch like the balance changes and the bug fixes, but extra things like infinite rematch are coming later.
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>GGXXAC was so broken they had to rush out GGXXAC+ and still didn't fix everything

lol
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>>383376801
Many people got into fighting games through SF4 and considered all other fighting games to be worse because it was the first fighting game they actually learned, myself included.

I've only been playing other fighting games since SFV was a colossal failure on so many levels and honestly I'm glad, I was limiting myself to only SF4 for no reason other than my own ignorance.
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>>383378150
>>383376801
SF3-SF4 was called the dark ages for a reason. People don't like Arcshit or SNK.
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>>383375926
Maybe you should play Guilty Gear.
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>>383374863
>The whole fucking genre has gone to absolute garbage this gen.
its not, youre just a silver rank shitter so you get mad about it
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>>383374863
I was in the Rising Thunder closed beta. Had no idea it would be so short lived, I didn't play enough. I was so looking forward to that game. Had the right feel of Street Fighter IV without the input insanity.

Now I'm looking forward to Dragonball FighterZ mostly out of theming and presentation, the inputs are probably going to be a mountain for a faggot like me.
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SFV and Tekken are shit, but those are also the only games with a reasonable learning curve for a new player due to their population size. For any other game a new player just has to be unconditionally in love with the genre to tolerate putting in months of literally nothing but L's and single player practice.

SFV really put the genre in a horrible place.
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>>383377264
>Tekken 7 is a 3D fighter
What did he mean by this? One additional layer is too much? Doing dodges into or out of the screen is too much? You have problem with depth of field?
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>>383378689
The rotating plane makes it a different, and much worse, genre than 2D fighters.
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>>383378579
>Tekken
>Reasonable learning curse
It's fucked how that game is great for casual button mashing but a fucking hard if you want to actually be good at it
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>>383374863
This, I hate the direction fighting games are going.

Pretty much only old games on fightcade these days.
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>/v/ suddenly hates guilty gear

About time
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>>383380573
It always goes like this:
>Game comes out
>Multiple enthusiastic threads about it for days
>More or less then a week passes
>Everyone hates it for pure contrarianism
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Play guilty gear

>effort actually went into making it look great
>easy to learn but still very technical
>execution vs reward relationship intact
>still has new content coming out
>baiken's boobs
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>>383380721
Or that the new players who don't really understand the game drop it like usual and the players who understand fighting games begin talking about its problems, and where the game has a lot of problems this becomes negativity.

I take it you are one of those retards on twitter who shit on people criticising games for 'damaging the community'?
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>>383380573
/v/ always hated goober gear newfag
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>>383376157
>smash
>fighting game
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>>383374863
Play Street Fighter V, it's so fucking fun dude I just love having to face off against epic grabs and gnarly fireball spacing
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>>383378814
>tekken
>hard
>ever
No
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>>383374863
Just admit to yourself you're just a Crapcomfag like all those niggers at the FGC.
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>>383374863
sirlin will fix it
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>>383381302
what the fuck is this shit

>we automatically repeat your input for 8/60ths of a second
yeah, what could possibly go wrong with that

>special 1 - special 2
jesus christ
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>>383381667
it's moving the difficulty of the game from the execution to the strategy. not sure why you think spending hours in training mode is a good thing.
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>friends want me to play Guilty Gear
>don't really like Guilty Gear's gameplay or any of the characters
>nobody ever wants to play any other fightan with me
>live in Smashcuck county where finding real fightan pals is rare
What should I do, /v/? I really don't like playing Guilty Gear, so I don't want to buckle under.
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>>383381302
yomi counter makes this picture

Sirlin is the type of guy to let go of his controller when he's dealing with a blockstring in Tekken
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>>383381986
that's never EVER been the real problem
people get rekt online exactly because of footsies and lack of experience, removing the "difficulty" in inputs won't do anything

besides take a look at rising thunder:
simple inputs, easy combos, free
and yet it crashed and burned

maybe people are just looking for an excuse to be trash, eh?
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>>383381986
SFV has shown us this is a false dichotomy. Simple mechanics and everything being equally easy to do doesn't turn it into beautiful fighting game chess, it turns it into live action RPS.
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>>383382429
I thought it crashed and burned because someone bought them but didn't do anything about it
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>>383383047
Riot buying them was after RT crashed. The game didn't even last a month before online being absolutely barren.
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>>383382608
SFV has major problems, but they're not due to lower execution barriers. Like if someone modded SF2 so every frame-perfect execution requirement like reversals were relaxed, it wouldn't really change anything major about the game.
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UNIST is out soon though
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>>383381068
Mostly because of GGfags, not due to the games themselves
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>>383382205
Well, what fighting games do you like, dummy? Have they ever given you a reason as to why they don't want to play those? No matter what if you don't want to play a game just don't do it. It's not hard, but I guess I am someone who doesn't mind online play too much.
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>>383374863

We already have the ultimate fighting game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRNdFdN0RPM
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I'm hyped for UNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KRCFCoUgbA
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>>383375281
>>383375076
Shouldnt you be #RisingUp, Jonny D?
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>>383382205
fuck guilty gear. your friend will drop that game when dbf comes out. this happens with every anime fighter
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>>383374863
If you like devil may cry but do not like guilty gear, you can neck yourself.
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>>383375031
>and this game is what we've always wanted since middle school but I want (you)s so I'll play the contrarian ad call it a meme
Ftfy.
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>>383375104

KOF XIV is the best fighter out right now. Great roster, DLC, mechanics, and balance changes are steady and not too aggressive in nerfing (aside from k maybe).

>>383375143

You're a fucking idiot. KOF has never been popular in the US. Handegg isn't popular outside our country either- doesn't mean you can't find streams and tournaments for it if you're looking.

People who need games to be popular in order to play them are pathetic. I still play 3s, Mahvel, KOF, and GG.
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>>383376157
I sold my wiiu. How does that make you feel?
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>>383374863
Take a neck and yourself it
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>>383377808

KOF's balance is actually in a good spot right now. No one is super oppressive and even in top 8 youi see weirdos like Chin, Xanadu and high skill-ceiling chars like Angel (who is my main).

The game is incredibly fun but people who are good at movement can make even semi-strong characters feel OP.
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>>383383227
No it was shut down because it was purchased.
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>>383374863
>Play any fighting game that isn't capcom, namco or NRS Shit
>Dead lobbies except some chink that will wreck your ass
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>>383382429
And you're full of shit. That has been entirely one of the problems of the genre going back to forever.

Some people rose above it or bent themselves into saying they liked it while others just went and did other shit.
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>>383384761
I would be mad at you, but at least there's been whispers about a W101 switch port, so who cares.
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>>383374863
if that's really how you feel then you were never a big fighting game player to begin with
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>>383384678
I'd like if games like GG were more popular because I'm vastly behind everyone else and I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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>>383385003
It was shut down because of Riot but the game was completely dead in its last weeks regardless of Riot butting in.
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>>383375006
>Injustice 2
>NRS garbage
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>>383385128

GG isn't very fun (I'm playing it too) when you are losing because you very much have to understand the system and have all of your tools ready for a moment's notice. My friend whom I destroy at 3s and KOF just wrecks me in GG because his understanding of the system is so much more precise.

I personally fucking hate how technical it is. Wanting to play a char like Johnny at high level has you constantly doing mind-numbing APM shit like cr. S to mist finer-cancel to dash-in grab and airborne MF cancels to maximize damage from chaining jumping Dusts. I see shit in tournies and ask myself "why even bother?"
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>>383374863
Soul Calibur/Tekken had its unique aspects that it introduces to the genre. Smash bros is unique and a fun party game. The Naruto revolution series on the wii should be remade because those were mechanically phenomenal, and extraordinarally fun. Naruto storm isn't competitive but can be pretty fun and aesthetically pleasing. For Honor was an interesting new twist that it introduced to the genre, shame they had to fuck it up so badly. everything else feels copy and paste. We have the technology to get away from the world of 'Lk Hk Lp Hp' setups but they continue to do it. It's starting to get oversaturated like the 'Zombies' genre. Zombies got so fucking overdone that any new zombie games are nearly unbearable to play because of how unintuitive they are. Same things happening to the fighting genre. People are to afraid to push the fighting genre to a more 3D skillful environment. Too bad when it happens they have to fuck it up with paywalls and ridiculous matchmaking.

Nintendo is brave and smart enough to see this though, take Arms as an example. Fun, and new. Just doesn't have the full package. Every fighting game coming out now has this problem where it feels like something big is missing. Companies are trying so hard to reach a bigger audience and make more sales that they're forgetting about replayability. You play a fighting game, go online, beat some kids, lose against some kids. That's all there is to them now, the learning isn't fun, and the rewards aren't there to satisfy your wants and needs to play them. The only thing they're doing to keep players now are releasing DLC characters so that users play the game for another 3-5 days until they wait for another DLC character. They need fighting games where you feel your rewards making you stronger, there isn't balance, it's pure skill and level based. Losing shouldn't feel like a big 'fuck you'. Why can't users continue even if they aren't all too good?
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>>383377020
Have you tried just using player matches? You're not manually going into individual regions and searching for lobbies that way, are you?
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>>383385548
I shouldn't have to dominate the player base to feel success in the game. Halo 3 was a perfect example of a game that got it right. Everything was there. It had extreme replayability. Not good at online ranked? Play unranked social matches. Not having fun on those? Play your own made up match with your buddies. Your rules, your way to play.
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>>383385772
That's another thing, games were designed to get you away from the stress of the real world. A place for you to escape. A game shouldn't stress you out more than your job. I shouldn't go home and get pissed off at a fighting game because I'm not that good at it and when I finally get better they bump me up in rank from challenging players to impossible players to beat.
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>>383375321

>>383375447
^^That is false. On ps3/ps4 theres a whole bunch of people to find online and most of them are in the online lobbies
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Fighting games are the only games I want to play anymore aside from the odd Mario game. I've experienced so many games to this point that there's really no new experiences left out there for me. May as well get good at technical execution with a fightstick.
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>>383385491
>doing advanced techniques with a execution heavy character is hard
I mean, you're not incorrect
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>>383386130
this is where i'm at also, i haven't enjoyed a singleplayer story game since dark souls 2

>tfw grinding combos in training mode in guilty gear is more fun/rewarding than most AAA games
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>>383385772
You're leaving out the most important part: There have to be lots of people playing the game to make that possible in the first place.

Now, I do think fighting games do drive people away with lackluster online features. SFV comes the closest to even having a functional ranked mode, but it's still screwed up due to a screwed up skill rating algorithm and being able to cheat away losses.
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>>383374863
It's time to let go off the Capcock. I know it hurts because you are addicted to it, and letting go makes you feel an empty space. But there are more games out there waiting to be played.
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>>383386042
The notion that all games are an escape is just your personal view of them. The way one views studying an instrument as a means to express oneself can be different from another who wants to be the world's fastest guitar player. Outside of that, why bother with ranked matches if you don't want to get better/win? Just stick to player matches with people around your skill level.
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>>383386537
People don't want to play a game where you get stressed more than you have fun. Fighting game player bases are going down more and more with each game that comes out. For many reasons. One being that the genres getting oversaturated and there are so many options to fit some people's idea of a perfect fighting game. Another reason being there's no fun in them anymore. There's no one fighting game that just stands out. And when they do come out, people are scared to try them now because they assume the worst. They're too scared to make a fighting game that fits everybody's wants and needs. And when they do make them you get E-Rated games like smash bros that can only get you so far before you crave something that fits your personal audience, because beating up little kids online is not fun.
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>>383386537
>being able to cheat away losses
no,
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>>383386714
Aside from an escape from reality what are they really? Personal opinion; They should give you a feeling of success that makes you WANT to come back for more. What's the point of playing a game that makes you feel like your working, resulting in a feeling of boredom. The same feeling that brought you to the game to escape it.
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>>383387167
>what is competition
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>>383374863
JUST STOP BUYING CAPCOM GAMES YOU FUCKING RETARDS THIS ISNT ROCKET SCIENCE
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>>383387167
Not to sound too deep, but games can be a myriad of things now. When most of us were children, they were "toys." Now they can be used as getaways, competitive arenas, and even tools to teach players lessons and skill sets they might not have learned otherwise. As for fighting games, if you get discouraged or bored after losing instead of motivated to learn from your mistakes and try again, fighting games might not be for you. Or it might be that you need to find that one fighting game that fits all your needs.
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>>383387167
>They should give you a feeling of success that makes you WANT to come back for more
Don't fighting games, on a fundamental level, already do this?
Now, you can argue all day which fighting games are better than others, but one of the best aspects of the genre is seeing your skill and abilities grow the more you play. It feels satisfying to put time into learning a character and having that work pay off, when you finally start beating people with that character.
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>>383387589
Don't get me wrong, I agree on your definition of what a game is and does. But I disagree on your statement of my liking of fighting games. I love me some fighting games, I have too many to count, I've been playing them since '96. But losing shouldn't be an end all be all for the players. Most typical casual gamers will play the game, lose, and ask 'what's the point? What's the point of playing to lose if I get nothing?' I like to consider myself one the more technical understanding players with fighting games. I consider myself a higher skill player but can you disagree with the opinion that they should be fun?

My statements aren't based on a small group, I'm saying in a large group to the gamer audience casual and not casual, fighting games are losing their spark as fast as the zombie genre.
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>>383385548
arms fandom is hilarious, they are a bunch of scrubs all spamming throws online because throws are easier than timing shots or dodging. and the bad players are spamming throws and then making other players think throwing is OP because they are also bad and don't know how to counter it.
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>>383387589
could you explain to me why there are anon in this thread who are bored of most video games but fighting games still seem to satisfy them?
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>>383385548
tekken and soulcalibur introduced absolutely nothing to the genre
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>just got darkstalkers resurrection for "free"
>still play MVC2, 3rd Strike and Alpha 3 all the time
>still having fun with SFV

its as if you have fun playing fighting games more when you actually enjoy the genre and have friends to play with

really charges the old EX bar
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>>383374863
Why is hbomberguy on OP's pic?
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>>383387851
The larger audience that is ultimately leaving fighting games to die in a hole disagrees. Looking at numbers. Fighting games are not doing enough for the larger audience I agree that does feel successful, but For how many people buy the games how many do you think are actually playing with that mindset? Not a lot. The standard player is probably buying it because they're bored and want something fun. Not another day job to spend numerous hours on getting better at.

>>383388229
8Way directional...
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>>383375031
I can't wait when the game comes out and it turns out to be a 7/10 at best and then they'll release an updated version 6 months later.
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>>383381986
its like anything that takes skill in life anon, you want to play an instrument? you have to spend hours practicing. with fighting games practicing means learning combos, reacting quickly to mistakes or oportunity, like in real martial artz etc. and its part of the beauty of fighting games, when you see your hours of practice pay off
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>>383388429
>8Way directional...
Not introduced with either tekken or soulcalibur
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>>383388656
"skill" does not exist in video games. this is all artificial technique.
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>>383381302
I actually REALLY like the idea for a jump button. For a lot of scrubs, it's way too easy to accidentally jump when you're trying to do some other input. I do it all the time.
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>>383377264
Killer Instinct is a pretty good game.
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>>383388889
I really dislike the idea of a jump button, same for a button just for blocking.
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>>383374863
I'm spending roughly 2,000 American buckaroos to go to the US of A for just over a week so I can participate in EVO.
So no, I'm quite fond of the genre still.
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>>383389110
You better win
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>>383389170
I'll damn well try.
Probably won't get too fat, but it'll be fun. Gonna meet up with international friends.
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>>383387851
It's a matter of degrees. Depending on the game, the learning curve may be a sheer cliff where a new player needs to put in several months of time before actually seeing results. The difficulty curve in fighting games is mostly about player population; if there are more newer player then the curve is more gradual. I'd say that only SFV and Tekken 7 currently offer a remotely reasonable difficulty curve due to them being fairly popular. They're also pretty bad games on the whole, even if you only compare them to previous ones in their series.
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>>383389279
>fat
Far. Probably won't get too far.
Probably won't get fat either, but that's another issue.
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>>383389290
Why is tekken 7 bad? It's certainly not SFV levels of bad is it?
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>>383389473
It's not. He's salty and jaded. It's actually a great game and one of the best out right now.
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>>383374863
I really like 3rd strike and i play it daily you should come too, on fightcade its not a hard game to get into also super turbo
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All I care about is R.Mika, an right now, MIKA-NATION is a pretty good place to be at if you're not here already.
Sorry if you're character is
>An ugly dude
>Not in the game
>Is in the game (but they are shit)
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>>383388043
It could be a lot of things. There is no end goal in fighting games besides simply getting better. On top of that, fighting games are often very apparent with determining the difference between high and low skill requirements, meaning it's easier to advance and make changes when needed. On top of that, fighting games may be the only competitive setting right now that doesn't require that you have friends or rely on random people like in team based shooters or mobas. Some people simply play for the characters and how cool they look. It could be a number of things.
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>>383375470
Your mom asked me the same question last night, and then you were born son I am disappoint XD
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>>383388003
But fun is subjective. Some people genuinely love the learning cliff of Virtua Fighter. Others love the simplicity of something like SFII. Besides, if you lose and ask "what's the point of playing if I lose and get nothing," then that means the game isn't for you. You get something out of every loss: an opportunity to learn from someone better than you. If someone can't see that, that's their problem, not yours.
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>>383377264

>opinions
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>Fightig games are only Capcom games
Eat shit and die.
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>>383389473
Tekken has always been a polarizing game because high level matches always involve a chunk of turtling in order to fish for an opening. Some people hate it and some don't mind it. I don't mind cause it kind of reminds me of Samsho where nobody wants to be the first to make a mistake.
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>>383388678
But perfected in both, and in different ways. Street Fighter wasn't the first fighting game ever, but it made the genre better with SFII. It's not always about being first.
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>>383390387
Nope

Dark Edge is the first ever fighting game with fully realize 8-way movement.
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>>383387309
>competing at video games
Honey, your tendies are getting cold
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>>383390685
And? Who cares? If the game mattered that much, where is it now?
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>>383390695
>attacking the poster instead of refuting the post

Pathetic.
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>>383390885
>Moving goalposts after getting utterly fucking BTFO like an underage faggot.
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>>383391059
I'm attacking the entire concept of esports, aspie
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try>>383375926
>TFW I used to have time back as a NEET to gitgid at fightan
>TFW I was good at fightan right as twitch.tv was becoming a thing and people were getting paid
>TFW bro who was also good at fightan and qt 3.14 azn who was good at league wanted to craft a plan to move to Cali and live the gaym life Makin sweet $$$ off twitch bux
>TFW mother tired of my shit because I'm 22 year old NEET playing games all fucking day
>Explain to her that I plan on making money off this and show her the rising trend of online gamers
>"Fuck you, thats bullshit anon. Get the fuck out of my house."
>Homeless and need to try hard for job
>Work my ass off to live alone
>Bro and qt both went to Cali without me
>Fast forward 6 years
>Now they both have very active twitch fanbases, live exclusively off that and YouTube bucks
>qt 3.14 admits she wanted my dick but the time for that has long passed
>Bro keeps asking if I wanna come over to Cali and give it a shot, he'd totally shill for me
>I have job security now, and even though I make less money than them and live a miserable life, I can't risk losing what I have by packing up and moving across the country with no job
>I have no time for vidya anymore so can't even gitgud anymore
>I'm posting this while on my commute to work to fix an issue with our inventory because new girl fucked up on numbers, so even my weekends are cut short


Being an adult is shit, guys.
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>>383391131
fuck off you low IQ virgin
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>>383391131
what do you compete in then anon? don't tell me you're some kind of low test beta without a competitive drive?
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>>383391224
>supports a """""sport""""" where only subhuman korean permavirgins may apply
Likewise
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>>383391278
> don't tell me you're some kind of low test beta without a competitive drive

Where do you think you are?
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Just play VF.
I'm not memeing, I'm not trying to be "likes relatively obscure games for cool points" guy, I'm being series. Just play VF. Learning the intricacies of VF will make you love fighting games again.
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>>383391456
VF is garbage
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>>383391131
What makes competition exclusively esports? Literally any game from the last 5 years has had some form of pvp multiplayer, which is considered competing.

You're the real aspie here.
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>>383391278
Competition is dicklet tier validation seeking behaviour.
Tiger blood, nigger.
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>>383391456
*serious, jesus christ.
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>>383391456
Dead game, dead series.

Literally no reason to play it these days unless you want to spend $40 on DLC so you have some different arcade ladders to play through all alone.
Great series, just dead and buried.
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holy shit the low t
low iq betas here lol

One of the biggest golden rules on /v/ is never take anything seriously said here when it comes to fighting games
/v/ has always been a down right joke/laughing stock on this subject
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>>383391517
>playing anything past the 6th console gen
Oy vey goyim gaming is srs bzns now
5 shekels for new skin please
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>>383381068
old /v/ loved GG more than anything

the nufags of the SF4 era killed the threads though
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>>383391746
>old /v/ loved GG more than anything
No
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>>383391521
now i know for sure you're a virgin, you could have at least attempted to hide it
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>383391662
Stupid as fuck bait, no (you)s for you.
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>>383391782
I'm sorry you didn't get the chance to browse this board back in its hayday

http://ggxx.wingdreams.net/

see this shit? there used to be a GG wingdreams general up 24/7, the games weren't even on Steam back then
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>>383391827
O shit you got me there.
Better go fight the guy who cucked you to prove you did more pushups, faggot
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On PS4 I have SFV, KOF14, GG Rev 2 and have MVCi (it was on sale for $40 at Amazon a few days ago) and DBFZ pre-ordered.

I'm having fun with fighting games. Guilty Gear Rev 2 is honestly by far the best fighting game out right now tho.
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>>383391131
Ive found that the only people that have this kind of reaction to competition are absolute losers
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>>383391984
Put some effort into your bait
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>>383374863
Well maybe if you stopped playing Capcbro shit and tried other games you wouldn't be having this problem. But then again this is /v/ and you faggots suck at fighting games.
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>>383392173
Takes one to know one >:3
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>>383392212
the only one baiting here is you buddy

I wouldn't even bother replying but this shit's important, /v/'s history must not be tarnished under all circumstances
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>>383392126
>BlazBlue picture
>Doesn't list BlazBlue
disappointed/10

Also I *vastly* prefer BB over GG and I'm extremely disappointed with how Xrd has developed. 0 meaningful changes to my boy aside from pointless nerfs.
Gimme back my fucking anti-air.
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>>383391662
Not them but I'll give Capcom 5$ all day for more Mika costumes.
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>>383385491
>tfw no Darkstalkers 4
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>>383390297
So, like any fighting game? Nice complain, imbecile.
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>>383374863
I'm pretty well done with them. There is no innovation at all in them. I have played "the fighting game" all I want to play it. I recognize Street Fighter V is a well-made game, but I have played thousands of hours of other Street Fighter games and SFV feels no different. I'm ready to do something else with my life.
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>>383392339
0/10
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If only 14 had a 13 Steam edition tier of a PC port and wasn't unreasonably more expensive than vanilla T7 and Rev2, or if there was PC port of 11.
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>>383391112
lol?
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>>383375926
This right here man. I wasted my 20s becoming a world-class fighting game player when I should have been learning something that would provide a living for myself.
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>>383393073
>play like an irresponsible fool who can't manage their own personal life
>piss away your "precious time"
>wow I never made it to EVO fucking WASTE OF TIME

Should have listened to everyone else an played cause you thought it was fun, not cause you wanted to be a faggot about it chasing $$$ in VIDEOGAMES.

Has nothing to do with fighting games.
Has nothing to do with the FGC.
You're just fucking idiots.
>Well at least I can blame this game instead of myself for my own personal failures in life

Grow the fuck up indeed.
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>mfw Im having a great time with SFV
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>>383393513
That's fantastic. Glad to hear it.
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>>383393506
>spending all this time to type about a butt-mad reply about things already implied in the post and which everyone here already knows
Here's a novel idea: kill yourself.
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>>383393513
I too enjoy eating feces.
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>>383395307
>being this much of an asshurt r/kappa sperg that you can only speak in shit analogies
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>>383378478
Don't worry you can enjoy it again once League of Fighters happens.
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>>383382271
I love that Sirlin for whatever reason thinks having all or nothing gambles make a game competitive and the more rock paper scissors the better.
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>>383383564
I might give a shit if they attempted to release the console versions in a timely manner or at least released the console and PC versions at the same time. Arcade 2015, PS4 2017 and PC I assume 2019.
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