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Hey guys, I just completed all of FFXIV's quests. Are there

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Hey guys, I just completed all of FFXIV's quests. Are there any other games where I can be a mindless errand boy?
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>>383342758
go back to and ask
>>>/vg/
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>boy
not canon
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>>383343540
Canon WoL is male WAR > DRG > MNK though
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>>383342758
>Are there any other games where I can be a mindless errand boy?
This one.
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>>383343808
It's Greatsword > ARC > WAR > DRG > MNK > SAM
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>>383344164
the mnk and sam are two different characters
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>>383344527
They aren't
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>>383344527
It's the same guy, he just changed his hair.
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>>383342758
Can you post a screenshot of your hours played?
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Skyrim
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>>383342758
Do you live under a cave? haven't you heard of Undertale? It's like earthbound but good.
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Let's be real for a second.

MMO quests, are the worst thing about the genre.
Especially for a game like XIV, with those amazing raids, for them t just have "Kill 3 sharks" as a quest is baffling.

Do something with the towns.
Tell an interweaving story like the other sidequests.
Have the player figure something out rather than just travel to a mark on the map.

I'm guessing every other MMO does this too because it's just a staple by now. But it's just awful.
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>>383345127
Sounds like you want to play Destiny, or a SP campaign.
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>>383342758
When can I play as a qt rat?
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>>383345415
XIV is already a story focused game.
"Arrange 4 stones in Yanxia" isn't helping anything.

The only sidequest that's done well in Stormblood is the Ruby Princess.

So something like having the town change or transform when quests complete.
Such a simple thing like, "Collect 3 oranges" can be made so much more interesting if that NPC opens a juice stand after that you can buy from.

That's all it needs.
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>>383345127
There is usually one chain of sidequests per settlement, and if you do them all a mother chain that links them together. Of course they all end up as "kill 5 rats" or whatever but at least they have interesting mini stories

>>383345696
This is a good idea. Especially since there's finally some phasing in stormblood
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I can't decide what healer to play as
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>>383344770
I won't because I'm lying. I created this thread to bitch about the endless fetch quests in the main fucking story. God I really hope this game gets better.
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>>383346867
Why would it ever get better? You fucking KNOW it won't get better. Just admit you're playing because you're a miserable bastard who hates himself like everyone else.
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>>383346867
Play some POTD to break up the monotony. It also gives you a really good taste of how powerful your class can be at high/max levels. The dungeon crawler feel is great too.

You'll end up hating POTD though when you start spamming it to level alt classes
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>>383347038
>It also gives you a really good taste of how powerful your class can be at high/max levels
I don't think doing 10% of party damage because everyone else has 50 level higher weapons will make you feel powerful
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>>383347318
No mate its to see the high level skills when you're still low level and don't have access to them yet
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>>383346867
You have to reach Heavensward, the first expansion.
I almost quit too ages back with all the quests and dungeon grinding.

You'll get to level 36 and think, "this is so tedious".
Then you'll get to level 47 and think, "I wish I was dead".

But then you get to Heavensward and think, "This is alright".
Then you'll beat Heavensward and think, "This is the best game ever" while this plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czw1XDkjTuY
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I remember playing Phantasy Star Online on Dreamcast a long time ago and enjoyed it a lot.

I got XIV this week and have been trying it out. It certainly seems a lot lonelier than PSO was, but I only have 2 or 3 hours in it.

I mostly play fighting games so I'll only be playing this for the social aspect and messing around with random people on the Internet. I'm not sure if people actually do that with this genre nowadays though. Maybe it's so old that the majority of people playing just like grinding.

I'll give it to the end of the month and see if it sparks those old PSO feelings again.
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>>383342758
I liked how it frequently pointed out the absurdity of the nation's greatest hero doing random odd jobs for no good reason
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>>383347812
>one small accomplishment at the end makes 100+ hours of suffering "worth it"
Just stop, anon.
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>>383348260
PSO has a different feeling, a feeling of constant progression and management.
XIV is more about overcoming in the later stages of the game.

You'll get your kicks from Palace of the Dead when you reach it.
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>>383348539
It does. It's the same with Stormblood.
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>>383348352
How is the last one relevant?
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>>383348352
Even Tortanic doesn't have you do mundane tasks in the sheer volume as this game does. That game also gives you choices, and dialogue options.
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tfw static is making me switch to ast or paladin and i can't decide which one is more fun at 70?
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>>383349203
Healing is more fun than tanking
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>die because I was gaol'ed and people didn't kill it in time
>just watch people play cuz nothing to do while I'm dead
>watch this astro get the thunder mark at the same time split comes, try to make it to the other side but not in the little safe path of the split, get tossed up and then thundered right when he gets down, killing other people with him
>I dindunuffin conversation afterwards
I swear to god this kind of shit is half the fun of playing this game. It just brightens my day.
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>tfw want to play DRK
>don't want to grind it up
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>>383347812
>But then you get to Heavensward and think, "This is alright".
Actually it's "But then you get to Heavensward and think, "What did they do to Alphinaud, Urianger, Merlwyb, Thancred, Y'shtola, etc. etc?!""
>mfw every time nu-Alphinaud opens his mouth
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>>383349203
>tfw static is making me switch to ast or paladin and i can't decide which one is more fun at 70?
This sentence is a weird midground between a statement and a question.
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>>383348918
I suppose it would make more sense in context than by itself
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>>383349720
get your wallet out, goyim
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>>383342758
Are there Viera in FFXIV yet?
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>Second SAM quest is literally *tips fedora* i will protect your honor, m'lady
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>>383349846
What does that jump potion even give you besides the levels?
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>>383349980
Nah, here's some Viera FFXIV concept art
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>>383350029
full set of i260 gear.
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>>383349772
You'll get used to it eventually, although it is really jarring at first

If nothing else I was glad to see that Yuri Lowenthal sounding motherfucker get the axe
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>>383350204
I'm half tempted

>21,75 euros
Maybe not
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>Yotsuyu is everyone's favorite waifu
kek
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>>383350371
Are Wind-Up Khloes anatomically correct?
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>>383350156

i like the naked design, they should use that one
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>>383350371
Who sends them?
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>>383350396
No that's Lyse!
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>>383350156
Not gonna lie I would reactivate my account right away even if the Viera would cost sixty bucks
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>>383350419
>>383350431
Weirdos
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>>383350435
The guy who gave the quest to unlock her, a Roegadyn with a bowlcut named Unctious Adventurer. He was a Khloe fanboy.
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>>383349772
I used to think that, but I prefer this voice now.
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>>383350632
We're all Khloe fanboys
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>>383346574
>heals
>heals with pets
>heals with random buffs
Just pick whatever.
Conjurer is the only healer you can start with either way.
You can only unlock SCH at level 30 and AST at level 50.
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>>383350693
>her fang is made to look like part of her flesh

Disgusting.
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>>383350808
Khloe is disgusting
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>>383345127
The problem with XIV is that it was a rush job to save 1.0. It didn't have the time to do anything expansive other than collect 20 bear asses.

That said, there's no excuse for HW, Stormblood or beyond to have these same shit ass quests. Shameful.

They should have taken notes from ESO's questing. All of them are fully voiced with investigation options for more lore if you want and a lot of them involve puzzles, investigating or dungeon delving for items or people. Killing shit is just something you do along the way in most cases or because whatever you're after is being guarded. There's just simple kill quests, but overall it's a story-driven experience rather than just mindlessly mashing through dialogue.
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>>383348352
It's funny for the first one hundred hours or so. Then it becomes very unfunny. Then it becomes funny again after 200 hours in.
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>>383350989
Yeah, that's exactly what it needs.
I'd rather a town have one long quest like that that gave 2,000,000 exp than 8 menial maid tasks that do nothing.
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>>383350989
Stormblood did get slightly better with the sidequests. They experimented with more stuff like the blowgun quests and running that shop in the Azim Steppe. Hopefully they keep it up and go for more interesting stuff.
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>>383351124
Full circle
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>>383351124
You know you've been broken when your character seems tired
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>>383350989
>there's no excuse for HW
PS3 limitations
>Stormblood
Spaghetti code leftover from 1.0
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HAHAHAHA

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/335401-Stop-rewarding-tanks-healers%21-We-all-put-in-the-same-effort.
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>>383351364
This is why the 30-50 DRK storyline was so good. Because your character finally lost their shit and told people to fuck off with all the slave tier quests.
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>>383351364
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>>383351564
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>>383351470
>PS3's limitations also limited the dev's creativity
Huh, imagine that
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>>383351720
>>383351364
Another reason why I shouldn't jump potion a DRK
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>>383351720
>they still do summaries for job quests
Thank god.
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>be healer
>expert roulette
>9m queue time
Jesus, two DPS in one expansion was a stupid idea.
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SECRET OF THE LILLY 2 IS THE SHITTIEST TRAIT EVER MADE FOR ANYTHING HOLY FUCK WELCOME TO LEVEL 68, SUCK MY COCK
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>>383351876
Do you not get to do your class quests with those?
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>>383349720
Leveling DRK to 60 isn't much of an effort at this point, as long as you retain any sort of semblance of interest in playing it.

>had PLD and WAR leveled in ARR
>level PLD and DRK in HW
>never get around to leveling WAR because DRK is an even better AoE pulling dungeon tank with nicer aesthetics
>keep telling myself I'll level it eventually and sit on piles of leveling gear
>finally try to get it to 52 so I can at least throw out the level 50 gear
>it's like an hour of work but I can't even be arsed because I can't stand to play this dumb axe fucker class anymore
>finally just convert all my gear and remove the gearsets

Thing is even in ARR at first I fucking hated how MRD felt and only really played it to actually get to do damage in dungeons.
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>>383351970
>>9m queue time
in HW it was 20+, because every shitter who couldnot play DPS jumped off to healers
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>>383351720
Explain? I'm retarded, I guess.
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>>383352016
when you jump potion you skip the job quests up to lvl 60
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I heard PLD is head and shoulders over the other tanks in powerlevel
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>>383352158
It's your inner resentment talking to you through the quest log.
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>it's an Alphinaud gets bullied episode
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So what materia do I fuse into MNK? Is Crit still the way to go or is Direct Hit the new hotness?
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>>383352389
He looks like a girl
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>>383352389
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>>383352345
I think that's embellishing it a good bit, but they're certainly the best.
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>>383352345
Play who you think is fun. Jobs rise and fall according to buffs/nerfs
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>>383352389
Everything after 2.55 has just been one long Alphinaud gets bullied episode.
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>>383351981
Monk, level 66, 20 whole potency on ONE ogcd skill, typically saved for it's utility
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>>383352443
Probably Crit since it pulls double duty for MNK by letting them proc more chakras.
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>>383350470
Lyse is pure shit
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>>383352537
What are the playstyles of the different tanks like?
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>>383352389
Alphy losing his shit at the end of ARR when he asks for help on the Steps of Faith was a pretty great moment
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>>383352389
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>>383352389
>It's Alisaie gets wounded at the end of an expansion so that Aliphibuttboy could get screentime and fame episode
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>>383352626
They're all pretty similar.
WAR: Build meter, spend meter
PLD: Rotate cooldowns
DRK: Smash that mf Dark Arts button.
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>>383351981
>tetragrammaton is just an instant/free Cure II
>Plenary Indulgence is just an occasional instant/free Cure
WHM utility when
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>>383352345
Truthfully it just has some crazy shenanigans in 8 mans that you will never need unless they suddenly start making things actually kill the shit out of tanks again. Otherwise it's really good but not mind blowingly.
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>>383350470
I liked Yugiri more.
shes a ninja lizard mermaid, thats hot.
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>>383352389
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>>383352389
THAT BOY ISN'T BUOYANT
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>>383352686
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>>383352686
Earring is on the wrong ear, you can't fool me faggot
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>>383352686
>>383352608
I miss Lyse disguised as Yda
She needs a new straight man, and more screentime as a side character so she does less *clenches fist*
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From Famitsu scans:

Omega 9
>UNATCO HQ
>Gunther and Anna
Standard Council fight. You know the drill.

Omega 10
>Hell's Kitchen
>JC Denton
Starts the fight in (Non Lethal) by using (Flashbang) and going into (Stealth.) The exterior of the arena will become an AoE zone, players will be forced to stack in the center. JC will appear inside the stack and fixate at on a random player, attempting to (Baton) them in the back of the head. This doesn't kill the player, but removes from the fight for the rest of its duration. In the next phase JC switches to (Lethal). Jc will now switch to his (Dragon's Tooth) which deals more damage than the baton and gives its primary target a stacking bleed effect. In the final phase, JC activates (Evasive Maneuvers) and will begin to use (Snipe). The perspective will switch to that of JC, aiming down a sniper scope, and players will have to dodge his fire.

Omega 11
>Bop Page
>World Trade center
In this fight there is a new mechanic (Money), tied to the duty gauge. Players start the fight with $100 each. Bob will leech money from players using a variety of skills. The most crucial being (Invest) and (interest.) The latter is a passive effect which causes his money to steadily grow, this effect doubles throughout the fight. Bomb uses money to hire Majestic 12 goons throughout the fight, upgrading them as he accures more money. Bob will also upgrade the room with (Security System V.1) which he will enhance to V.2, V.3, and so on throughout the fight.

Omega 12
>Helios
>Computing Core
The fight takes place inside of a stylized computer with a screen (broadcasting Helios' image) overlooking all. You don't fight Helios, but rather the components within his system. This includes GPU, CPU, multiple sticks of Ram, etc. All are targetable from the start of the fight and have various effects when brought to certain health intervals or are downed entirely. Helios will cast (Grey Death) on players, summon (Deones), and (Overheat).
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>>383352983
Is the novel good? Also, cat best girl
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>>383352781
Tetra is a great and useful skill. PI is literally a trash version of Tetra that MIGHT happen for a character you have already been healing. What the actual hell were they thinking?
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>>383352808
So I can still run through the hardest content and have no problems getting into parties and shit even if I roll with the weakest tank?
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>>383353012
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>>383353113
Stop that
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>>383352626
>WARs
Egotistical DPS-wannabes, haughty, braggarts, now with a dose of WE WUZ TANKANGZ N SHIET MAN, FUCK DA ASIAN MAN BRINGIN US DOWN N SHIET MANG
>DRKs
Edgelord dorks who have three line text macros for each of their abilities, smug assholes who think having to manage their mana made them elite-top-0.02%-of-the-player-base gods, now mixed in with "MUH ANIMATIONS" faggotry and people tasting ironic backlash of going from the "HARDEST TANK EVER" to the 2.0 PLD-tier difficulty they used to make fun of the other tanks for being
>PLDs
Largest crybabies, both when it was warranted and even when it wasn't, constantly bitch about "I don't care that it's called Knight in JP it's called Paladin in English so why can't I smite undead?????????????" people, people who don't want to have to spend any time learning anything other than 1-2-3 and ignore using any of their utility so they just picked the easiest class in the game, people who like the aesthetic, now mixed in with Metasheep retards and DPS WARbab rerollers - currently somehow more obnoxious than HW Warriors.
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>>383352983
>no tall amazon Au Ra girls, just petite little princesses
It's just not fair.
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>>383352983
>actually following the naming conventions when deciding on a name
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>>383353113
Another Square-Enix classic, another Eorzean legend. Can't wait for the Tomb Raider section.
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>tfw too much pressure to keep top dps spot as SAM and if I get anything less than first I feel like I failed as a SAM
Maybe I should play MCH so no one will expect anything from me.
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>>383348260
bruh ill play pso2 with you, im currently doing nothing in end game xiv cause its so fucking boring when youre fully geared and cleared
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>>383353301
Wow
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>>383353302
To be real, I want super tall au ra princesses.
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>>383353421
>all four floors are platformers
please no
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>>383353302
>>383353491
This could have been reality
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>>383353420
Fuck you nigger. Immersion breaking names aggravate my autism.
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>>383353420
>not having a lore friendly name for maximum story immersion
The Xaela isn't even right anyway. Xaela have Mongolian names, not Japanese.
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>>383352983
>All their characters just look like them

Zzzz....
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>>383353301
DNC and GEO tanks will be cool guys.
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I'm leveling up crafts. Inventory management is killing me even after the space upgrade
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>>383352487
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>>383352983
Abandon duty
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>>383353420
Why not, Kirito Strife?
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>>383353535
Would this have been Raen or Xaela?
either way, I'd play as a cute shota lizard boy.
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>>383353575
Try not leveling them all up at the same time.
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>get level 50 dungeon
>accidentally do a Riot Blade combo at max MP least three times
T-thanks
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>>383352983
>Main character plays the edgelord class
Erry tim
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>>383353113
Can't for Agent 47 to make is way into Eorzea.

oh wait
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>>383353420
>tfw have a lore abiding name
>Fanta into another race
>It's now completely inappropriate for my character
FUCK
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>>383353532
>Lara Fight
>T-Rex fight
>Fight on Jeeps with moving background
>Zombie ancient Daimyo from the Sun Empire
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>Join anything
>See another Elezen
>Pretty much like seeing a unicorn
>My face as we never die and outperform everyone

Elezen da best
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>>383353729
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>>383353550
>not making your character look like you, or at least an idealized version of you
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>>383353539
>>383353541
>>383353693
lmaoing @ your life
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>>383353680
I thought derks were the edgelords, not dergs
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>>383353113
>That bob page fight

Something like that would actually be cool.
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>>383353693
>play male character majority of the time
>decide to fanta to a gril for a bit
>now a qt female character but with an unfitting man name
and that's how SE makes money on name changes.
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>>383353302

Play Highlander faggot.
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>>383352983
>Gay Roe healer played by a burly man

THEY KNOW
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>>383353559
>DNC
Sluts, memers, somehow the combination of the worst traits of both Lalas and C@s rolled into one class - Fury help you if you find one that's one of those races, which you will. Tries to AoE pull everything in the game despite having nil-armor and never remembering to be in any form let alone their tank one. Despite mass-pulling everything they'll still be the slowest tank ever
>GEO
BLM rejects who wanted a faster cast time, maintain their habit of being unable to move and get hit with every AoE under the sun, snowflake tanks who want to be the counter-intuitive mage-tank, don't bother to read any of their skills, somehow manage to be more 1-2-3 focused than PLDs despite coming from a DPS and should be "used to having an actual rotation"
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>>383353819

Rather be a Giraffe than a cat or lizard.
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Who /waitingonPLDnerfs/ here?

Hope Yoshi nerfs the fucks into the ground next week.

t. warrior
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>>383353535
Boy I wonder what happen to Au Ra boys in the bedroom when they take their amazonian brides home
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>>383354079
Nigga you can't even drink water properly
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>>383354108
they ignore them for horse cock
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>>383353908
They're both pretty edgy, Anon. Dregs were the pre-HW Dorks.
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>>383353301
Okay, which tank is the least pain in the ass to play?
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I hate french
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>>383354108
SNU SNU
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>>383354085
I forgot what patch is going to be balance changes 4.x something
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>>383351538
>dumbfucks saying they should get a bonus for waiting in queue, as if alt+tabbing and watching an episode of Naruto is deserving of reward
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>>383354065
The fact that you think a mage tank is counter intuitive or that Armor-less tanks don't work makes me think you're one of those simpletons who has only played XIV.

>>383354085
>Wanting other jobs nerfed as opposed to your's being buffed

Literally the worst and most selfish way to design a game.
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>>383353995
THE /XIVG/ IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE THREAD
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>>383354176
I guess so
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>>383354085
I just want them to make DRK more fun
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>>383354271
Although he should not receive a reward, neither should tanks or healers.
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>>383354148

Sure, but at least I don't make up the worst players in the game.
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>>383354245
4.05 iirc
>>383354190
They're all pretty easy, PLD is probably the strongest right now though
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>>383353693
PAY TEN BUCKS FOR A BASIC FEATURE, GOYIM
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>>383354190
Nowadays I don't even know any more. WARs are braindead unless you actually bother to Stance Dance, DRKs are 1-DA-2-DA-3-DA, and PLDs only mechanic is maintaining your mana to be above 80% and making sure you're doing the right skills for which DPS buff you have. Just take your pick between DRK and PLD, but WAR is easy too if you're not trying to push for maximum dps from the class.
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>>383354245

Yeah. Maybe then they can return my beloved SCH.

Until then, BLM, no matter how bad the queue times.
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>>383354317
Not that guy but if they didn't give RDM unique gear they damn sure won't do it ever
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>>383354085
Hey bro, sorry about the whole "beast gauge" thing. Here, have a Sentinel-boosted Intervention. If you need any more help I got a Hallowed Cover on the backburner!
t. Paladin
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>>383351538
This guy is deluded. The rewards aren't about effort, it's about trying to attract people to under-played roles. Also you'd have to be braindead to prefer DPS to healing/tanking.
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>>383353693
>start as a male
>fanta to female because the males are all insanely fucking ugly
>name is still decently fitting
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>>383354416
So WAR is meant to tank and deal the most DPS amongst the tanks as well?
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>>383353420
>Didn't know about the naming conventions going into my character
>Hate every moment of it now but don't want to spend money to change it
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>>383345127
Its just ingrained in people at this point.

Guild wars 2 in development had no kill ___ quests, just meta map events. However in playtests people said that they wanted the quests back, so they added them back in with a slight change to the regular formula, and they were for the most part praised by reviewers at the time
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>>383354436
WHM and BLM had unique looks that get shit on everywhere except for their sets. Dancer wouldn't be any different. Plus I reckon they'd be DEX based instead of STR based, and wouldn't use fending gear.
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>>383353995
>>383354325
Yeah, we definitely don't want this sort of shit here. Please go away
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>>383354365
I guess you have a point. Can't be worst if you dont exist.
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>>383354538

>Picked an androgynous forename with lore friendly surname
>Play Midlander girl with boy-ish haircut

Can't go wrong.
>Muh running animations.
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>>383354559
Well, that certainly seemed to be how it was designed, but right now PLD is generally doing the most from what I've seen. Unless WARs have gotten their REEEE management down to perfection and they've pulled ahead, or DRKs have discovered some secret tech I'm not privy to yet.
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>>383354559
DPS have the most intensive work of all in this particular game. Healing and Tanking are afterthoughts.
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When will I see him again goddammit. My motivation is gone because he's gone. 3.55 & 3.56 shouldn't of happened.
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>>383354361
Adventurer in need is fucking worthless anyways, especially since the new reward is only for leveling roulette
>gee should I level my DPS alt, or waste the EXP bonus so I can make gil in the most inefficient way possible
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>>383354669
t. Alex [adjective][noun]er
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>>383354797
Y'shtola should have died
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>MCH level 70 class weapon is a fucking ak47
>68 skill is a Michael Bay explosion
>70 skill is a fucking flamethrower
When did MCH become the high test class?
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>>383354643

Whatever you say buddy. Just keep in mind that all those ERPers that fill chat with emotes and stupid macros you see are cats and lizards.
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>>383354801
>infinte cracked clusters are worthless
>free GC seals for anima weapons were worthless
fucking kek
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>>383354801
>waste the EXP bonus
You know Adventurer in Need bonus isn't daily right?
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>>383354850
Honestly why bother keeping her alive if they are just going to write her out of the story shortly into the expansion.
Her and Thancred seem like they serve no purpose anymore, just kill them off or something.
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>>383354824

>My character's name is not Alex but my real name is

You're wrong and right at the same time.
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>>383354860
I never thought opossums could be so cute. Holy shit.
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>>383355007
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>>383351720
>Say your name, your REAL name!
>I tire of this charade.
That quest was fucking great, I love it so much.
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>>383354797
We need him back cause Lyse is just uninteresting as fuck by herself, and mainly cause he was my bro yo.
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>>383354973
Thancred did a thing at the end
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>>383354973
>>383355093

Yshtola will always be in the advisory role. Thancred did just enough this expansion imo. Lyse has left the Scions, thank god, so we won't be seeing much of her after all this is done.
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>>383354973

Thancred was kind of funny in SB.

I like how he showed up near the end and suddenly everything started going according to plan and smoothly compared to Lyse and Alisaie fucking everything up for 90% of the expansion.
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>>383354860
This game taught me that the autism isnt exclusive the the ERPfags with shit chat macros.
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>>383355093
Exactly.
He was gone for an entire expansion--longer actually, only to be brought back for MAYBE 30 minutes of screentime. I have never felt so cheated.
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>>383354916
I'm going to be honest and admit I thought VIs were as worthless as Vs have been for the last year
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This is your DPS tonight
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>>383353559
Seeing assholes riverdancing while we're in a battle made me quit ffxi.
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thancred had to git gud
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>>383355241
Thancred had a good amount of screentime in Heavensward. His backstory with Minfilia was extremely relevant for her and the WoDs. He's been off-screen for a while because he no longer trusts Hydaelyn and is working with the Ascians.
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>>383355167
>Mentioning Lyse and Alisaie in the same sentence
I will cut you
Alisaie is just an inexperienced girl who tries to do good, Lyse is the one fucking shit up
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Will anything ever fill the role that Haurchefaunt had as far as likable characters? I didn't think I'd miss him, but I do. Also, best way to level DRK? Wanna switch from WAR.
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>>383355363
kys memer. You sicken me. Why don't you go take some more pictures of you by the grave? Fucking faglord.
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>>383355363
Spamming the highest level dungeon available (with short queue times) is the best way to level up
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>>383355363
Run trials forever
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>>383355295
You're lame.
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>>383355363
What about Gosetsu and/or Hien?
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>>383355350
I want to have sex with Alisaie
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>>383355350

>Implying Alisaie isn't Alphinaud retarded and useless edition.
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>>383355363

I liked Gosetsu

But honestly there really aren't many good characters in XIV. Most of them are as deep as a road side puddle in the summer
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how did this make you feel
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>>383355421
I thought it was spamming POTD
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>>383355416
What
>>383355421
That's boring as shit, but if it's efficient then I'll just take breaks.
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>>383355347
I was talking about Papalymo. And I love Thancred and I hope he shows up more as well.
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>>383355282
I have to give her credit for being able to move -- let alone fight -- with that horrible broken spine of hers. She gets my comm.
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>>383355363
I doubt anyone could replace him. He was a total bro for the entire time you know him, from the first time meeting him through all of HW, and even helps you out from beyond the grave.
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>>383355489
Makes me feel like you browse leddit
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>>383355282
I wish RDM rapiers and PLD swords got scabbards. They look so good on katanas and are great for immersion.
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>>383354850
This. Does anyone even like Y'shtola?
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>>383355363

This is easily the most enjoyable characters in SB
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>>383355543
Weebs do.
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>>383355495
Oh sorry, I'm pretty fucking drunk. Papalymo deserved more, but his echoing of Louisoix's sacrifice was a very fitting end for him.
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It's seriously shit versus Heavensward.
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>farming halicarnassus for my drop tonight as tank for low queues
>RDM trying to big dick dps
>Dives in for melee combo
>dives straight into everyone's line AOE
>instagibbed
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>>383355489
We are gonna help him get laid in patch content, I just know it.
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>>383355579
Twas a memorable dance indeed!
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>SE will never bring back a 1.0 server to milk extra money out of subs for no extra work on their own
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>>383355452
A riverdancing class is lame. I swear if they add dancer, I'll drop out of whatever dungeon I'm in if I see one.
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>>383345127
Is runescape the only game that does side quest right?
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What did she mean by this?
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>>383355696
RS is shit lad.
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>>383355556
That headband looks so fucking weird on cats.
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>>383355543
I liked her and Matoya being snarky to one another. Her outfit is cute too. That's pretty much it.
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>>383355556
Shisui was a mistake
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>>383345127
I kinda liked the progression system that the HW Beast Tribes had whenever you ranked up, something like that only with a loooooooooooong quest line would be neato.
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>>383355723
fuck you
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>>383355630
>help a nigga get laid in 4.X
>WoL will still be a perma-virgin
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>>383355747
>Poro Roggo sidequests
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>>383355720
You know what she means. Obviously referencing the sun and moon like that, she likes Hien.
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>>383355827

Primals can't have sex
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>>383355556
This guy's fucking art. It's always the same insipid catgirls with same fucking face wearing the same fucking slutty outfits drawn with the same soft composition. I wish he would draw something different for once. He also forgot the Tekko again.
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>>383355720
Hien didn't want that aboriginal bitch
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>>383355827
We cant even get a hug, or a celebratory handshake.
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>>383355919
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>>383355938
we actually don't know that.
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>>383355882
Its not fair
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>>383355954
>alisaie just stands there
I swear the fucking NPC animations in this expansion are absolutely terrible.
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>>383355282
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>>383355720
Hien is too good for Au Ra
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>>383355965
>:c
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>>383355489
Made me feel like the entire time in Xaela was a joke and if I had just sucked off his cock I could've earned myself a Xaela army in under 5 minutes.
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Should I buy this game if I still have many open-world RPGs to finish.

I'm craving for interactions since I've been playing singplayer games for so long.
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>>383356013
>I swear the fucking NPC animations in this expansion are absolutely terrible.

When have they ever been good? It's been canned emotes since 2.0. It's awful
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>>383356095
Find an FC to RP with
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>>383356006

>Can't even see that thick ass tail in the fight

WHY
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>>383356095
You won't get much player interaction outside dungeons. Might as well be single player.
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>>383356013
That's what happens when you play an expansion built on a 5 year old engine.
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>>383355954
It's because of the different races, right? Too much work to get a properly functioning hug for the tall guys and potatoes.
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>>383356102
The only effort seen is in Hildibrand and only for comedic purposes. It's disgusting.
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>>383356159
we need to
RISE
HIGH
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>>383355882
WoL isn't a primal.
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>DRK lvl 70 quest
>All the enemies that the WOL has killed in battle appear one after another
>Gaius never shows up
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>>383356286
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>>383356286
It's only the ones you feel bad about killing. Thordan isn't there either.
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>>383356286
No guilt in killing that idiot.
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>>383356286

What would Gaius even do if he came back?
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>>383355827
Nothing will compare to the eternally friend zoned FFXI hero
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STOP NODDING
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>>383356228
pretty much.
Lalas ruin everything just by existing.
>>
FFXIV is a bad game, and an even worse MMO.
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>>383356375
No clue, but Gaiusfags keep spouting this idiocy.
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>>383356189
Well it's 5 years old not from 1995!
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>>383356410

It's literally just WoW but better. But themepark MMO's are garbage in general, yeah
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>>383356375
Open a veterinary clinic.
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>>383356394
>furls eybrows
>tilts head to one side
>>
If Gaius had somehow survived he could show up as any random Hyur looking NPC and we'd never know because we never saw him without his armor.
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>>383356375
Take Garlemald from Varis and ally with the WoL to fight a greater evil. Whose body do you think Elidibus is using, anon? You remember when he first showed up, right?
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>>383356156
Sorry man, I'm not into RP things.
>>383356176
Really?
I'm playing (free trial) on Tonberry and I actually saw people talking together.
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>>383356519

>Run
>Dead stop with no sense of momentum
>Draw weapon
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>>383356343
More like Thordan wasn't actually a fighter so Myste didn't summon him out. The Heavensward were all complicit and supported Thordan wholeheartedly in his endeavors to become a god-king after all.

>>383356352
How was Gaius an idiot? Using Ultima Weapon to contain primals and using its mere existence to make Eorzea surrender wasn't a bad idea. No one could really account for the Warrior of Light just absolutely wrecking shit as effortlessly as they did at the time.
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>>383356394
>Nods head
>"Let's go!"
>Slowly rotates in the same spot and walks away then fades into the distance
>Every other NPC rotates in the same spot and walks away then fades into the distance
>You can finally move
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>>383356552
Gaius is a pure-blooded Garlean, so he would be taller and have a third-eye.
Elidibus rescued him from the explosion and is using his body.
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>>383354850

You fuckwits want everyone to die. Please take your GoT fanfiction somewhere else.
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>>383356632
Uh buddy, he was't just going to use it to contain primals. He was also going to genocide anyone who didn't want to be his slave.
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>>383356481
WoW is better; or at least it was. I don't know how hard that downward spiral landed after WotLK.

FFXIV has this single player focused content and yet it is an MMO. It's fucking retarded.
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>>383356394
>You might try to look a little disappointed. Or do you mean to give me another one of your stoic nods? You do, don't you?
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>>383356657
>>383356576
How desperate do you fags have to be to believe this shit?
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>>383356589
AUSSIE
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>>383356673
>He was also going to genocide anyone who didn't want to be his slave.
You shouldn't skip cutscenes and then try to talk like you know anything. Gaius only wanted to force Eorzea into a peaceful surrender, just like he did with Ala Mhigo.
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>>383356684
>FFXIV has this single player focused content and yet it is an MMO. It's fucking retarded.

While I agree, WoW's quest hub based progression was just as bad. It's what started this whole fucking mess
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>>383356632
>No one could really account for the Warrior of Light just absolutely wrecking shit as effortlessly as they did at the time.
Well,that was literally the plan. All out assault on the Praetorum with all three nations working together to take down the empire.
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>>383356684

>Why does this franchise known for having lengthy stories make another MMO with lengthy stories?

Play a MP game if you just want to jump right in, faglord.
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>>383356838
Which Gaius didn't account for, because he expected that the very existence of the Ultima Weapon would force a surrender. Which it almost did until the WoL walked into the room.
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>>383356673
Do you know absolutely anything about Gaius? His plan was to intimidate Eorzea into surrender so that he wouldn't have to go through a bloody war. We're told in a sidequest in Stormblood how he stopped the development of a potent bioweapon because it didn't want it to be used.
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>>383356787
>WoW's quest hub based progression was just as bad
At least there you could party up with your friends and do shit, here you can't because of overabundance of cutscenes and solo instances every five fucking minutes
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>>383356760
Nah, I live in SEA.

Still funny that those Aussies don't have their own servers.
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>>383351720
>level 60 and 63 DRK quests were so fucking awful
>Afterwards it goes full madman 10/10 amazing
God damn I started off super pissed at dealing with some whinyfuccboi.

Then you find yourself and Fray fighting side by side against every major human you have killed including the warriors of darkness.
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>>383356689
Every time Koji localizes shit like that it just further reminds me that the world is volatile and that it's just a theme park.

There's no real world, the enemy types per areas mean fuckall, and NPCs break the fourth wall about joking how you're a fetch-quest boy.
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>>383356671
They're obviously slowly writing the scions out of the story. I mean who do we have left. Thancred is the only one left that doesn't have sidequest immunity
>>
I feel like the Empire was somewhat justifiable before this expansion. But it seems like they wanted to nip that in the bud and just straight up made them saturday morning cartoon villains in SB
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>>383356895
>stormblood retcon
that's nice sweetie. He had no problem killing eorzeans in 1.0. And had no problem with it in ARR.
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>>383356749
Why don't you tell me who else exists that would make the emperor of Garlemald be disgusted at the very sight of them then?
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>>383356838
I still don't know how we were able to take out Ultima Weapon, unless Hydaelen's interference really did boost our strength 500x.
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>>383356948
You're full of shit, bro. Gaius waited until Ala Mhigo had a civil war so he could take it with -no casualties-. He then sat in Ala Mhigo for 15 god damn years trying to find a peaceful path to conquest before the Emperor sent Nael in because he was tired of waiting. Gaius then helped fight against Nael and the Meteor Project. Stop skipping fucking cutscenes.
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>>383350989

Sidequests are story-driven though. Not only are their special hub quests that tie into the area's backstory but there's even quests for finishing off an entire area's worth of them. The more mundane sidequests are often filled with exposition as well, nothing is ever fully detached from the game world.
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>>383356787
Dungeon finder killed WoW. Vanilla and TBC had a great multiplayer feel to it with all of the world expedition as a group to go from dungeon to dungeon as you were grinding out reputation or some shit.

WotLK was logging in and humping the dungeon finder or doing dailies until it was time to raid. The dungeon finder was getting put into a group with 4 other faggots you don't give two shit about and generally acting like a selfish fuck because of it.

>>383356840
Raided all the way through A11s, never got the a12s clear.

FFXIV is a shallow, shitty game. I didn't say anything about the story; which sony was kind enough to let me skip.
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>>383356948
If Gaius was so desiring of murdering all of Eorzea he wouldn't have helped try to stop Nael's meteor plan.
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>>383357048
I do not know where you're getting ala mhigo was taken with 0 casualties. I'll wait for your source of course you won't have one
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>>383357074
>FFXIV is a shallow, shitty game

I'd argue combat is overall more complex than (modern) WoW, and the boss fight presentation is leagues better than anything in the genre

If you enjoy built up, impressive looking bosses with great music then you could do worse than XIV
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>>383357074

>Raided all the way through A11s, never got the a12s clear

What does that have to do with anything you wrote in your last reply, as hilarious and as it is that you couldn't clear a12s.
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>>383357148
I'm not saying he's a murderhobo like Stormblood's katana kefka, but he had no problem waging war on "savages"
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>>383357196
What does playing the game's endgame content have to do with my conclusion that the gameplay in FFXIV is shallow and shitty?

Are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>383357220

How is Zenos anything like Kefka?
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>>383357220
To be fair Alphanauds retarded beastman plan is moronic.

Genociding them to free the world of primals is a way more realistic solution.
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>>383356941

Still doesn't change the fact that we're playing an MMO with story updates every 3 months. A dead character is literally years of time spent gone. Just look at how long Haurchefant's death took to finally fade, it's 4.0 and DRK's entire 60-70 story spawned from him. It's because 2.x players literally spent over an year knowing him.
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>>383357326
When you consider Garlean's immense opposition to Primals and the WoL's mysterious background, it makes a lot of sense that the WoL is a genetically created super soldier breed from the broken shards of Mothercrystal to do one and one thing alone: Kill Eikons.
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>>383357326
Anyone can summon primals not just beastmen though. Are they going to genocide everyone not garlean just in case? I mean it IS the only way to be sure.
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>>383357268

It's more that you were incapable of clearing it that's hilarious. So you're basically good at nothing.
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>>383357220
Gaius didn't even wipe out the Qiqirn or Ananta when he had control of Gyr Abania for 20 years.
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>>383357186
>2.5s GCD

The combat is the most shallow part. That's not to say that the phases of WoW raiding where you had to play your hotkeys like a piano was better, but the rotations in FFXIV are so dead set with this feeling of having your hand held; and then the mechanics for every fight are 99% dancing around AoEs. Let's not forget that every fight is a DPS check fight in FFXIV.

The game bears its history as a salvage job. The gameplay lacks depth in every conceivable way. You can hit 60 on a brand new job, in a role you've never played before, and master it that day because the mechanics are so shallow.
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>>383357272
Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor
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>>383357326
>Genocide the beastmen
>Beastmen get more and more desperate and call on their primal as they start dying
>Primals get strong enough that they're able to defeat anything
>Even if you do defeat them they probably sucked up enough aether from the land you initiate another umbral phase
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>>383356948
>>383357220
Waging a war of conquest to add the people into your empire =/= genocide and Gaius was always looking for the best route to take Eorzea with minimum bloodshed. This whole argument started because of the claim that Gaius would genocide people for resisting Garlean rule and we know that's not true otherwise every Ala Mhigan would be dead inside of the Empire's borders.
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>>383357504

>2.5s GCD

When will wowfugees learn that this isn't a valid complaint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huEo6rU7ovA
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>playing healer
>macro all my skills so they play a random sound while healing
>kicked with in the first 10 minutes of an expert

Hardest I've laughed in a while.
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>>383357460
>durr, what does you playing game have to do with quality of game
>hurr, you didn't evun clear a12s lolol useless fgt

I feel bad for your mom as she spends $15 a month to let you play a glorified ERP chatroom.
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Did any of you anons manage to get a khloe doll?
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>>383357706
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I should have switched from English voices sooner
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>>383357625
It is a valid complaint. The rotation overall are slower. oGCD weaving isn't that complex, and the rhythm of it never changes. GCD, oGCD, GCD, oGCD, over and over again.

The combat is less focused on the rotation so that it can overly focused on positioning puzzles. Again, every fight is a DPS check fight, because the mechanics are overall too shallow to expect that players will fail them.
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>>383357781

I can't imagine Susano being nearly as enjoyable of a fight without english voices
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>>383357520
I wonder if Omega will let us fight him.
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>>383357834
Susano is fucking fantastic in German.
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>>383357834
What happens?
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>>383357781
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>>383357660

>FFXIV has this single player focused content and yet it is an MMO. It's fucking retarded.

Think you lost track of your own argument. Not that there was one. It's just you going that the game is shallow yet you're incapable of clearing the easiest tiers imaginable. ERPers do better than you.
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>>383357781
You still get Koji's shit translation unless you can read German which is the best language for the text story stuff.
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>>383357376
Meanwhile minfilia and papalymo immediately disappeared forever
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>>383357928
It's sad at this point. Stop posting.
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>>383357525
They also need a bunch of crystals and aether that we keep giving them to summon their primals.

Its not like they are stubbing their toes then summoning a primal over it
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>>383357831

>and the rhythm of it never changes

Right, do that BRD opener or basically any class opener in susano and tell me nothing changes. Please stop pretending like you know what you're talking about.

>The combat is less focused on the rotation so that it can overly focused on positioning puzzles. Again, every fight is a DPS check fight, because the mechanics are overall too shallow to expect that players will fail them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUaYmgSzkR4

>general statements but nothing ever specific because fuck me if I don't know shit
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>buff personal inventory instead of retainer inventory
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>>383357074
>he spent countless amount of hours and money playing games he doesn't like
Retard
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>Go into thread of a game you dislike
>Tell everyone how much the game is shit
>Knowing absolutely no one is going to agree with you and just wants to talk about the game they enjoy

I will genuinely never understand this mentality. People are going to like what they like for whatever inane reason they may like it. Why step in just to shit on their parade? Makes no sense
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>>383358034
You don't need crystals, you just need a lot of aether. Crystals just so happen to be a condensed, easily transportable form of aether. Living bodies also contain shitloads of aether that burst out of them when killed.
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>>383351635
>>383351720
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>>383357326
>start fenociding beastmen
>they unite under one banner and declare war on the nations of men
>extra desperation creates super primals

Great plan numbnuts
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>>383358034
>Its not like they are stubbing their toes then summoning a primal over it
Literally how Lakshmi was summoned.
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>>383358034
The Ascians literally want nothing more than to have Zodiark take over Hydaelyn so they'll be more than willing to supply the beastmen with the crystals
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>>383358157
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Nanamo is very cute
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>>383358039
>Susano

I haven't played Stormblood. Why would you presume I bought the next expansion in a game I found disappointing?

I like your video. Is your point that tanks sometimes do things? What does this have to do with rotations in general?

I understand that defending the combat of FFXIV demands that you grasp at staws, but fuck man.

It's a casual game. There's nothing in FFXIV that comes close to even heroic ICC, and much less to Black Temple or SWP.
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>>383357504
>mashing buttons faster is complexity
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>you will never lick Lyse's salty knickers after a hard workout
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>>383358218
To be fair, we could probably take super primals.
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>>383358313
>more micro managing is just mashing buttons

Hello, shitter.
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>>383358034
>we

More like ascians

Who the garleans are supporting

Stop skipping cutscenes
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>>383358218
Literally do the same thing to the beastmen that we did to the Indians.

Pox the fuck out of the niggers and get them drunk
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>>383358157
>>383358283
Ow the edge.
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>>383358303

>I haven't played Stormblood

You clearly haven't played at all.

>I like your video. Is your point that tanks sometimes do things? What does this have to do with rotations in general?
>Again, every fight is a DPS check fight, because the mechanics are overall too shallow to expect that players will fail them.

No surprise you're too retarded to read. Not surprised to see that from someone who's clearly never played the game and just comes into these threads to shit it up. That fight is from Heavensward btw, not Stormblood.
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>>383358450
Literally every faction has the ascians fucking around in them.
Thats the point retard
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>>383358450
>who the Garleans are supporting
Other way around.
Irony, thy name is anon.
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>>383358410
We could but the entire world would be fucked due to the amount of Aether they consume
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>>383358430

>DBM
>timers on screen
>5 buttons with zero combo reliance
>damage button, resource button, proc button, aoe button, dot button

Yeah, real :thonk: right there. Don't chip a nail playing that garbage.
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>>383358515
Thats literally what he is you moron.

Your inner moralfag
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>>383358632
IS THAT MY NIGGA DILLBERT?
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>>383358430
What the fuck does 2.5s GCD have to do with micromanagement aside from you managing Blizzard's microdick in your mouth.
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>>383358518
Susano is Stormblood.

Anyway, you're a salty faggot who will defend this shitty game to the death, so whatever.
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>>383358717
He summons the ghost of every human story boss you killed

You fight off all the Knights of the Round and Warriors of Darkness at the end
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>>383343808
>derplander
>canon WoL
Good joke.
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>>383358819
The link wasn't Susano. It was Brute Justice. God damn you're braindead.
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Majora's Mask is entirely about being an errand boy.
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>>383358726
I finally understand. All these shitters who couldn't manage to enter TBC raiding, and barely managed to get into a PuG for WotLK casual trash raiding migrated to FFXIV where they cater to casuals as a business model.

Fucking hilarious.
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>>383358886
You autistic faggot. Follow the reply chain. I mentioned not playing Stormblood because somebody brought up the Susano fight.
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>>383358819

lmeow
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>>383358963
hi, I did Sunwell and heroic 25 LK eat my ass nigga
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>>383358963
TBC and even WotLK were an entirely different game when compared to WoD and onwards.
The jobs, while not hard and despite the 2.5 GCD, are more complex than the classes and specs in current WoW.
t. subbed to both
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>>383358617
>5 buttons with zero combo reliance
But combos are exactly what makes FFXIV combat so braindead. The moment you press True Thrust, you know what you'll have to press for the next 10 seconds.
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>mods stopped deleting this general
What happened?
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>>383359178
Shh, you're ruining their delusions.
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>>383359178
Can you show me the rotation of a balance druid?
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>>383359178

>But combos are exactly what makes FFXIV combat so braindead. The moment you press True Thrust, you know what you'll have to press for the next 10 seconds.

Tell me what you do before and after TT and LotD and I'll bother answering seriously.
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>>383359178
Let's not pretend World of Warcraft's hotbars don't light up like a Christmas tree evey time you get a proc.
Both games are braindead to play.
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>>383358963
>being cocky over playing a high latency PvE team game for subhumans
lmao
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>>383359178
>he thinks that weaponskill combos are the only abilities
>he doesn't realize that over half the dps jobs don't even use them
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>>383357883
all of his attacks are voiced. him being hit is voiced.
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>>383359307
But I stopped playing FFXIV.
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>>383359461
Dude are you trying to make me fall asleep on my keyboard with that comeback.
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>>383357272
-experimental new super soldier
-goes crazy
-doesn't care about anything but satisfying own self urges
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>>383358617
Are you complaining about DBM? Do you use an addon in FFXIV? I'll bet you use ACT.
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>>383359534
If you want to fall asleep on your keyboard, just play FFXIV.
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>>383359602
He had similarities to Kefka, but as the Legatus of the XIIth, he was supposed to echo back to Vayne.
>enhances self with secret magitek
>fuses with a god at the end
Regula was the VIth Legatus, but he was General Leo
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>>383359265
Um no sweetie they deleted it repeatedly earlier. the one janny that hates ffxiv threads is asleep though
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>Doing level 65 dungeon
>Tank has full shire on
Why
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>>383359678
They'll gladly shit on all the WoW addons, yet find it perfectly acceptable that Yoshit forces players to use a 3rd party overlay software that technically violates the ToS.
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>>383359741
So, that's Regula...He could be my friend, if he weren't my enemy.
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>>383359265
1)It's not a general
2)Autist jannie probably fell asleep
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>it's another argument over which braindead mmo is less braindead than the other
They're both themepark games focused on social interaction.
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>>383359678
>>383359802

ACT doesn't tell you where to go, what's going to happen for most boss fights as soon as you zone in.
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>>383357706
>worthless trinket that retards overpaid for on mp
i sold it
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AYYYYY LMHIGO
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Is the controller scheme decent for this game? I wanna get comfy and play an RPG with a controller.
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Help I want a job where I can be braindead, barely pay attention, and pull top DPS
>"Ok here's SAM"
Thanks Yoshi
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>>383359906
LOL
What is ACT TIMELINE?
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>>383359861
>social interaction
>"hey, want to group up for an extreme fight?"
>nope
>"hey, want to go back to my FC house and ERP for the next 5 hours?"
>why go all the way to your FC house when we could do it right here in general chat?
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>>383359983
SAM is the hardest job in the game Anon
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>>383357706
>Having any minion other than the otter
Why? None of them matter but the otter.
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>>383352983
What job is the catte? MNK?
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>couldn't do deltascape until last night because of 90ks
>read from initial reactions that the first few are kind of straightforward and not much of a challenge
>queue up for the first two, not expecting much
>v1 is fucking explosions all over the place and all kinds of elements
>v2 fucks about with gravity, throws in the float effect to counter quake-based attacks and has the boss counter your float if you float wrong
fuck you guys this has been fun so far
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>>383359960
yeah, you can do all high end content on a controller on the same level as KB+M

in b4 butthurt retards try to say you can't
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>>383359983
>SAM AoE seems alright
>Hit level 64
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>>383353301
This is actually very accurate

The paladin tryhards are worse than the war tryhards in 3.x
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>>383357038
well it isn't until she blesses us that we start doing actual damage to ultima weapon
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>>383360012
It really, really, really isn't
Not even close
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>>383360065
Hmm, what is a proper sam aoe rotation? Should I be putting up jinpu and shifu?
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>>383352983
>Cute husbando plays male roe
Alright now im invested
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>>383359802
Shit I forgot that literally no one has ever cleared a single raid on console because they can't install ACT.

You fucking phenomenal retard
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>>383360115
Let me guess.... tank?
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>>383360146
I've been putting them up, seem like the smart thing to do.
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>>383360158
>he doesn't know how to get ACT or an ACT clone on console

Haha, oh wow.
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>>383360207
Nope
Angry DRG main
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>>383360029
Yup. Thats the AF2 MNK top
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>>383360001

No one really uses it because the our tankbusters don't look like autoattacks and Focus target more or less does most of that job. At most people use a callout for specific mechanics like Height, but no one needs or raids with it all the time.
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>>383360146
use Meikyo to throw them up once the mob pack is gathered up
Shit's on a short as fuck cooldown so don't hesitate to spam it for whatever
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>>383360115
it's a meme you dip
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>>383360354
>Meikyo
My one weakness as samurai. I feel I've got the attack pattern down, but I never know how to use this optimally. It's killing me.
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>>383360310
Cute. I'm tempted to level it on my catte now
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WHM IS THE BEST
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trying to do shinryu in the df is pure hell, holy shit
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This is a kitten, not a cat
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By Yoshi's retarded logic of jobs with less utility being allowed to have higher DPS, then MCH should be way higher

Tactician and Refresh are barely needed now and Palisade is barely worth it

Why is he retarded?
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>>383359303
You don't know when you're getting procs so you have to be quick about it.

That's the whole point of the system, which FFXIV devs failed to notice
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>>383360441
AF2 and AF3 are both really cute on c@ts
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>>383345127
>>MMO quests, are the worst thing about the genre.

Depends on the game. I think the quest in Vanilla WoW, TBC, and CoH were excellent. The mechanics of a quest are irrelevant, what determines a good quest is the writing and presentation. FFXIV just has shit writing in general though.

>>383354582
The "quest" in GW2 were awful though. It was really stupid of them that they thought a game could get by just off of public quest alone. Then again these are the same morons that rejected the holy trinity and thought having levels was a dumb idea too.
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>>383360441
>that level 70 staff with the butterflies
I'm so jealous I leveled AST first.
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>>383360207
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>4.0 made piss-easy so Jump-potion babs can't whine
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>>383360557
of 10 summers
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Is Third Eye ever worth using
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>>383360426
I just use it on CD to get three more sen to either convert to kenki or execute another finisher, depending on whether Hagakure is available or not.
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>>383360673
10 year old kitty not for sexual
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>>383357071
>Sidequests are story-driven though.

Not in FFXIV they aren't.
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>>383359983
You mean RDM, where it's not even a DPS loss if you fall asleep for a few seconds because spamming magic when your melee combo is ready just means getting your future melee windows faster unless you're so colossally retarded as to max out both bars.

>>383360679
Always
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>>383360557
i want to make khloe happy
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>>383360740

In stormblood they are.
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>>383360679
Fucking always. Either a lower kenki (15 vs 25, saving 10 kenki) attack or a free 2-4k heal. Mash that shit whenever you about to take damage. Shit adds up in a fight.
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>tfw finally got enough ilvl to do susanoo extreme
>couldnt beat the enrage timer
I need better gear.
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>>383360679
when soloing stuff Third Eye into Merciful on CD helps with your sustain quite a lot
In groups it lets you immediately heal a bit from a boss AoE when you know one is coming, or you can use Seigan for slightly more kenki-efficient damage than just doing Shinten
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>>383360665
>3.x stories such as the WoD, Minfilia and Ilberd were hastily concluded so jump potters won't feel alienated
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>>383360767
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>>383360742
>>383360813
Alright, also is it best to apply Higanbana when you got slash resist on the enemy + Jinpu and Kaiten
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>>383360557
>>383360767
>>383360873
>I want to fuck a 10 year old girl
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>>383360572
MCH has to be punished for what it did to Yoshi's genius ideas for class balance in Heavensward.

An expansion or two of having half the utility of Bard and barely more damage than a tank should do the trick.
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>>383360836
>1,172 DPS MNK
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>>383360836
>SAM
>barely 3k
You need to stop being a shitter more like.
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>everyone hypes up Shinryu as some hard ass fucking boss
>one shot him with only one person dying in the party

Only time I evem got close to deatb was when the adds spawned and my positioning for that was off. A bit disappointed, thougn I expect EX to be a glorious clusterfuck.
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>>383360946
Opening, it's best to kasha combo, then jinpu, then kaiten+higanbana then finish gekko combo.
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Is there a way to tell if the attack by the mob is magical or physical?
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>>383350156
>>383349980
They added a FATE taht gives you bunny ears. That's all you're getting.
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>>383361051
People are used to it now.
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>WoD
>almost the entire alliance is new
>wipe a couple times to the first boss, it's a complete disaster
>one tank's alliance keeps pulling without warning and locking people out, never stands still, can't hold enmity, dies, and still tries to mt every pull
>next attempt, had enough of his bullshit, even mentioned in /a not to let him tank
>can see him revving up, getting ready to get going for the next pull
>slap a big fat 'target to ignore' marker on him
>he steps back
>quietly lets another tank pull
>keeps making passive-aggressive remarks in /s and eventually quits
Have you ever bullied someone out of a dungeon, trial, or 24-man?
we still wiped two more times until the only tank who wasn't complete shit finally started turning around during mortal gaze
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>>383360572

>Palisade is barely worth it

How can people say /v/ xiv threads are comfy when you have WoWfugees who've never actually played the game, people who say dumb shit like this, people who say SCH/WAR/DRK are all eternally shit/simplified even though 4.0 DRK/WAR are miles ahead of 3.0 in terms of optimization, people who love to say how much Lyse sucks in every thread, and best of all metashitters who don't understand how to actually balance the game.

Every thread is this garbage.
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>>383361016
gomennasai, i'll sudoku right now.
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>>383352983
>one of each race
What a diverse cast of characters.
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>>383360836
>both healers sub-500
Wtf are they doing that they both can't fulltime Combust 2 at the least?
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>>383361174
>/v/ xiv threads are comfy
No one says this.
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>>383361220
Handies
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>>383361016
>why aren't you doing 5k like all the ilvl315 with vi melded top 10 fflogs parses dhurhudrr
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>>383360873
What exactly do Rowena's buyers do with their tomestomes we bring to her in the boat loads?
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>>383360973
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>>383361291
Summon an Eikon using tomes instead of the crystals we all assume was the only way of doing so.
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>>383361304
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>>383358881
That doesn't make sense because you don't even kill Illberd he kills himself and you fight the WoD even though he isn't dead.
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>>383360946
Yukikaze debuff does not affect the DoT part of Higanbana in any way, shape or form.
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>>383361174
>/v/ xiv threads are comfy

/v/ XIV threads aren't allowed to exist because of Blizzdrone mods
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reminder
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>>383361174
>How can people say /v/ xiv threads are comfy
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>leveling crafters/gatherers for 12 hours straight
>MIN/BOT level 31
>Crafters range from 20-30
>even with mhigan earrings and 50% GC bonus + food
>it's only getting harder from here

Fucking christ
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>>383361371
Is this the face she makes when she knows you're lusting after her childish body?
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>>383361401
Don't remind me of reddit memes.
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>>383361174
Yeah dude 10 seconds of damage reduction is totally worth being bottom the barrel DPS
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>>383361459
t.lalafell pedo
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>>383361401
>Inoffensive. Probably boring
I don't know man, I just picked humie not knowing whether I'd stick with the game or not.

I'm too attached to my character to fanta
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>>383360426
On CD, regardless of if you have 0 Sen up.
Excluding times you absolutely have to refresh a buff/debuff, which really should be never.
>>
You Khloe fags need to go back to /vg/
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>>383361430
It took me ARR and HW just to get a level 60 crafter, and that was only because they threw in those easy as fuck moogle quests. I don't get how the fuck people can enjoy crafting anything. The rewards for autism are great though. Fucking furniture, infinite gil. I just can't do it though.
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>>383361174
Lyse does suck however if you ignore the shitter and shitposters the threads are pretty good.
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>>383361480
>play the support job and complain that you get support abilities
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>>383361291
I think she sells them off to fancy rich folk, who most likely have no idea what it does and simply buy them to have them.
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>>383361430
>mhigan earrings
O shit, thanks for reminder
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>>383361401
Why are midlanders such eternal trash?
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>>383361371
She's just the right height
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>>383361597
Yet Bard has a million things and still does more DPS

That's is the problem here
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>>383361480
>dude there should be a support class
>here is a support class, the machinist
>LOL WHERES THE DPS YOSHI
DPS ONLY meta was a mistake.
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Which minion is your favorite, /v/?
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>>383361480
Shit, why am I bothering to equip Reprisal when I do even less damage than a MCH, THANK YOU FOR OPENING MY EYES
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>>383361430
Man look at that flubber fly
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>>383361684
The problem with MCH is that their support is absolute garbage.
>>383361708
Hunting Hawk all day every day
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>>383361708
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>>383344118
>Final Fantasy game where a character is using a smart phone.
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>>383361708
>Get the road sparrow
>Can't /beckon it to sit on your shoulder
Burb's cute as fuck too
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>>383361726
>Tank making comment about DPS when comparing a DPS job to other DPS

Shut up, nobody cares about you
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>>383349772
>tfw I play with Japanese voices like everyone should in the first place, and Alphinaud sounds the same and have no idea why the fuck you are talking about.

Feels good man.
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>>383361684
MCH has less support abilities than brd and they do less damage. They need either a damage buff over bard to compensate for their lack of support or give them support equal to that of brd
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>>383361771
>Final Fantasy game where a character is using a car
>Final Fantasy game where a character is using a computer
>Final Fantasy game where a character pilots a literal spaceship
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>>383361430
Do leves and HQ provisioning, if you get bored, just go do something else for a while. Seriously, forcing yourself is the worst way to level craft/gath.
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>>383361684
The moment Yoshi opened his mouth about how they're balancing job's DPS based on how much utility they have, he outed himself as somebody who has no idea what the fuck is going on about balance
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>>383361658
>MCH
Oh, i dont know shit about them I thought it was BRD. exxcuse me while I drink bleach
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>>383361430
people tell me leves make it go by fast, but you can only have so many leves

What i did feels pretty chill:
>use all leves to get miner and botanist to 50 so you can gather your own materials
>this takes 2-3 days
>save leves for alchemist only
>rank everything else by 5 at a time
>going at a rate of everything +5 per day
to get it all to 50 it'll probably be a 2 week process desu
>also have a second monitor so you can watch movies or some shit while you do all this and time flies by

leves are a meme because you pretty much never have them
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>>383361480
>>383361658

It's more that MCH will inevitably be buffed, they're just trying to avoid the Ranged dominance in 3.0. Even though MCH is weak at the moment, Palisade is already ridiculously good in phys fights like Susano where it helps your healers essentially do nothing but dps for the entire first phase while saving a power cd on the PLD so he can continue holding susano after the transition. Refresh/Tact is the only way Ranged can drop threat, Refresh helps your PLD get more holy spirits and your caster more ruin 3s if its a SMN.
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>>383361901
Yeah, and FF8 is in the trash bin, just like FF15
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>>383361929
2-3 HQ leve turn ins is generally one level.
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>>383361901
VII, XIII and IV?
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>>383361708
Demon brick, Shantotto or Brickman.
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>>383361916
I'm pretty sure you are the one who has no idea about balance if you seriously, unironically, metaphsically think, belive, are convinced that utility should not be taken into consideration when it comes to balance.

Now off yourself and NEVER post in this thread again. Also post proof that you killed yourself or I'll report you to the mods. Not joking.
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>>383361985
There are computers, cars and spaceships in VII, too, anon.
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>>383361708
You posted him.
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>>383361708
Gigi and Tora-jiro.
Gigi is a little too passive, though. Tora-jiro does whatever the fuck he wants.
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>>383362042
The point is, he went on about taking utility into account, and then let MCH through as being one of the worst fucking jobs in the game despite having less than Bard
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>>383361929
That sounds like a fuckton of work for 0 payoff
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>>383362143
That's a very nice study you've got there, Mr. Wizard. Makes me kinda wish I had a house of my own.
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>>383361993
>>383362164

You only get 3 every 12 hours
If you're leveling them all up then you're going to run out really fast. Alchemist is the best one to use them all on if you plan to level all the jobs because its the biggest pain in the ass to manually grind once you run out of leves

In addition always do GC turn ins and ixali dailies focused on one class
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>>383361637
Suck my dick lizard.
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>>383362164
its crafting, what the fuck did you expect? for it to be easy and not an autism simulator?
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>>383358518

Let's name all the most recent fights and their main features:

Sirensong Sea Boss: Very weak AOEs and just burn

Shisui of the Violet Tides: Become old to resist Seduction (variation on the generic press a to not die)

Bardam's Mettle : Actually has unique mechanics on 2nd boss but its really just some minigames. It does have some really unusual attacks that confuse people. This is probably the best dungeon but is annoying.

Doma Castle: WE GO TOGETHER. Standard fare dodge (x) to not die.

Castrum Abania: A lot of hard hitting shit.

Ala Mhigo: Researcherbro was pretty fucking great but fuck Samurai Kefka, he is underwhelming.

The Royal Menagerie: DPS Check Tails. Actually has some pretty punishing mechanics. Great fight to get accustomed to the real shit.

Susa Ex: DPS check on sword and he has a hard enrage so yeah.

Lakshmi Ex: Hard enrage, so kind of a DPS check.

Alt. Right Snake: Mechanics Check / Healer Check

Catastrophe: Mechanics Check

Halicarnassus: LET THE GAMES BEGIN super mechanics check

Hey Look It's Sorta Exdeath: Bland mechanics check. Worst of the Deltascapes


While FFXIV has numerous DPS, there are various other 'checks' aswell. What the game suffers from is a lack of reward and skinnerboxing of the most ruthless kind.
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>>383362225
Buy an apartment. With the recent furniture cap increase you can stuff so much shit in them now and get all the stuff you'd ever need. I barely have to leave my apartment at all anymore.
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>>383362497
simplify these using only the "MUH X" format
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As a SMN, how do I be such an annoying fuckhead that I get kicked out of every roulette I enter? I'm trying to think of something classy like making a fuckhuge macro for Aetherflow or something along those lines, but I'm out of ideas. I like the healer guy who made all his buttons play sounds.
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>>383362578
I might just do that. Sharing a house with your bros is nice and all, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes by throwing clashing furniture out.
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>>383362497
i wish they actually had some challenging dungeons in SB.

actually samurai kefka fucking rapes my healer every time if I don't TBN them, do people still not know how his sword attack works?
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>>383362652
http://imgur.com/a/TE7LF
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>>383362661
You can have two rooms if you are in a FC, you can have one in the FC barracks, and also still own an apartment, if you get really into decorating.
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>>383362497
>Sirensong Sea Boss: Very weak AOEs and just burn
You can avoid the aoes by killing the adds fast enough.
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>>383362791
FUCK
Did they macro that to all their actions or something
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>>383362597
>Sirensong Sea Boss:
MUH WATER

>Shisui of the Violet Tides:
MUH CHESTS

>Bardam's Mettle:
MUH MINIGAME!!

>Doma Castle:
MUH, MUH, MUH!

>Castrum Abania:
MUH EXPERIMENTS

>Ala Mhigo:
MUH DATA, THE POWER TO TRANSCEND!

>The Royal Menagerie:
MUH TAILS!

>Susa Ex:
MUH REVELS BEGIN

>Lakshmi Ex:
MUH CHANCLETAS

>Alt. Right Snake:
MUH WIND RAPE

>Catastrophe:
MUH GRAVITY RAPE

>Halicarnassus:
MUH GAMES BEGIN

>Kind of Exdeath:
MUH VOID
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>WILD AND PURE AND FOREVER FREE
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>>383363005
I mean, it was Exdeath like he fights in the actual game. In his normal form he rotates between fire, ice, lightning 3 attacks while spamming vacuum wave and holy. I thought it was fitting.
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>>383363005
>lak ex
>not MUH CHIMICHANGAS
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>>383363192
>MUH CHIHUAHUAS
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>>383363242
>MUH CHINCHILLAS
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WE GO TOGETHER
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>>383363149
Savage version will probably have a phase 4 where he turn into Neo-Exdeath
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