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Is it so much to ask that a game critic actually finishes the

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Is it so much to ask that a game critic actually finishes the fucking games before reviewing them?
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>watches that Donkey faggots new video
>immediately comes to /v/ and pretends that this thread is original

kill yourself, underage faggot
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Movie critics don't need to finish movies to review them, music critics don't need to finish a single song to review an album and wine critics only drink like one sip of wine to review a wine....so why should game journos need to finish a game before reviewing it?

#FightGamerGate
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>>383329751
>mfw I watch dunkeys video
>mfw I am enlightened about the game's industries problems

HEY /B/ROS HERE I AM TO PREACH DA TRWUTH BOUT GAMEZ WID MA INTELECT WIT MA SPECIUAL THREED
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>>383329751
This.

Although since you knew where it came from you also watched Dunkey's video.
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Yes it is wrong and yes we have seen Dunkey's new bideo.
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>>383329503
If they had to finish it before reviewing it, they would probably never get to writing.
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The reality is that most of these game """""critics""""" write articles for a good part of their living
content needs to come out regularly and all the time, nobody has the time to actually wait for you to play the game thoroughly and give a genuine review
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Dunkey not liking anime really makes me think less of him. That's a very reddit attitude and I'm not a fan of it.
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>>383329986
Okay I know this post is sarcasm but really are there actual people who think movie and music critics don't need to finish a movie or song to review it? If there are I'm gonna just kill myself right now.
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>>383330218
That's a fucking retarded excuse.
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>>383330564
Welcome to reality kid.
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>>383330290
>reddit attitude

No anon, you're just a colossal retard.
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>all these posters crying about dunkey video
I forgot, half of the /v/ posters are just magazine/marketing shills
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>>383330693
Never said it wasn't reality. It can be reality and still be retarded. That's why every day I come closer to taking the black pill.
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>>383329503
If he would have finished it it would have got a worse score.
Face it, your game is shit.
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>>383330434
Yes. Unfortunately a lot. They justify it because Ebert left a movie once or twice while doing reviews.
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>>383330997
Did Dunkey say you don't have ro finish ganes to review them? Cause if so he is a retard.
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>>383329503
If finishing a game like this was required for reviews, there wouldn't be many reviews.
They employ people based on writing/critical ability, not gaming skill.
There needs to be a shake up.
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>>383331042
How about stop calling all ideologies "pills" like a low IQ memeing fuck.
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>>383330434
even then, what's the time commitment needed to do that
you can listen to a full album or watch a movie in like 3 hours tops
I would consider a game to be extremely short if you can beat it in less than 10 hours of total playtime
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>>383331134
That's fucking terrible. You can't fucking REview something you haven't finished VIEWING.
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>>383331285
>coming to a conclusion before even watching the video
>still has the nerve to call someone retarded
Really makes you think..
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>>383331498
Jim Sterling has a whole rant about how you don't need to finish a game to review it IIRC.
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>>383331285
no his video was pretty on point, but the topic has been covered many times before him so him reiterating the same ideas doesn't do anything.
Can't really blame him though youtube content creators have to keep shitting out new material all the time to stay profitable and most run out of ideas way earlier than he did. And it doesn't stop him from making good material in the future. It was just a bit of a lazy idea for a video i guess.
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>>383331437
Wow, okay dude, calm your tits. Fine here "becoming a nihilist".
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>movie critic only watches half film
>food critic only eats half meal
>art critic only views half gallery
>car critic only uses half the gears
unacceptable
>only play half the game
some how acceptable
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>>383331628
Hes voice is annoying in my defense.
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>>383331654
I'm not at all surprised that a complete buffoon like Sterling would do that.
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>>383331691
Ill calm nothing. Fuck you and fuck your anime girl posting.
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>>383331775
Standards are way lower for videogame critics. Videogames matures alongside the Internet and by that time there was no real place to get paid doing good reviews. So we got memeing websites like GS and IGN instead.
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this is why i stopped watching yahtzee, that nigger is too lazy to even finish the games that he reviews. he might as well make his witty bull shit videos off of just watching the game's trailer as his shtick at this point
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>>383332141
Please don't say n***er. Rule 3 no racism.
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dunkey's new vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG2dXobAXLI
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>>383331892
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>>383331892
>I'll calm nothing.


The power of reddit.
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>journalists who have to publish daily or semidaily can't finish games that are 30+ hours long and write reviews in time for editing
It sucks, but it makes sense
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>>383329503
>he needs someone to think about games for him self
I get it, I read too metacrits
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>>383332370
That video is ao fucking weird

>game critics suck because they don't finish games
>youtubers are better even though youtubers are the onea who started thw "don't need to finish a game to review it" trend
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>>383329503
I actually read this whole review and it is one of the worst professional game reviews I have seen in a while. It's only 600 words long and the only points it makes are "it's old" and "it's hard".
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>>383329503
Crash sucked even back in the day but it was somewhat forgiven for being early 3D. Back then and even now the games are filled with awful design but the new versions have even worse physics and gameplay. I don't know anyone who was crazy for Crash or holds nostalgia for anything but CTR. It had some good sounds and music/Aku Aku but aside from that it's the epitome of play the first few levels/until a boulder level and then call it good for the rest of the year.
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>>383335441
>Crash sucked even back in the day
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>>383330434
>implying you need to eat a whole turd to know it tastes like shit.
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FUCK ANIME
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>>383333552
>started
They didn't start it.
Doesn't mean they aren't just as guilty of it, but the idea of half-assing games/movies before reviewing them came well before youtube shit
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>>383337005
What if there's a core of pure chocolate at the center? You don't know until you eat it.
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>>383330290
Fuck off weeb.
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>>383337005
>le eben false equivalency poopoo meme
I hope you know that's not an actual argument
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>>383336839
Nice argument. I had a PS1 before an n64
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Don't you love it when videogamedunkey points something out in a video that it suddenly gets threads on /v/?
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game (((critics)))
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>>383337565
Get off my website haha
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>Is it so much to ask that a game critic has autism before reviewing a game?
Ftfy
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>>383333552
Youtubers also essentially invented longplays though, that's kind of a moot point
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>>383332370
>this guy is wrong about everything, so he's opinion is valuable because you know he's wrong
>except for when he's right

Anyway, if you regular any of these sites you very quickly get to know who's writing what. Doesn't take long. Any RPS faggots know what I mean with the likes of John Walker.
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>>383330071
>>383329751
ahahah kill yourself first post
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>>383332370
Call me a faggot but I'm legit disappointed that he hates anime.
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DUNKEY IS A GOOBER???
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Peter Brown is a smarmy faggot. He fucking spoiled the entirety of Nier Automata on a podcast like a week after it came out
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>>383340336
GameSpot's review of Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons spoils the ending literally in the first sentence.
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>>383329503
What if he finished them 20 years ago? Does he really need to finish the games again to discuss FUR-K?
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>>383340284
Your mom is a goober you fucking faggot.
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>>383331654
>first half of the game is great
>second half of the game is an absolute trainwreck
>game still gets really high scores and a bunch of reviews don't even mention the second half being a mess
Bravely Default is a testament how reviewers barely play the games they review
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They have deadlines to make and you can't expect all of them to be good at any game they're told to review

When they play games for work they won't always get to play things they enjoy and these reviewers are way less autistic than you are
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>>383329503
>every "serious talk" video youtubers make is just parroting shit people have been saying for decades
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>>383340147
you're a faggot for liking him in the first place
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>>383338361
>effort is autism
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>>383341187
First half of BD wasn't great either; the only thing it was really praised for (other than the "return to roots" bullshit) was the """modernizations" that let low attention span CoD kids speed up or outright skip the combat
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>>383341517
Yeah, haven't you heard? Anyone that puts in more effort than you do is a nolifer tryhard autistic cretin, and anyone who puts in less is a casual worthless scumsucking braindead retard.
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>>383331654
Source?
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>>383341517
>>383341737
Actually putting effort into your job is autistic I guess
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>>383341517
>once again, v proves that they have extreme autism
A movie is often 1-2 hours long, albums are often 30 minutes or more. Video games, however, can take several hours to complete. Not to mention you have to put more effort into finishing them. You won't often beat too many games in a single sitting without autism. You'll eventually lose interest and play another game, only to come back to it later. Not to mention the games may be boring or frustrating. It's easy to listen to a shitty album or watch a shitty movie because you can have fun making fun of it while you're watching it
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Isn't the age of the best journalism we have ever seen? Why is games journalism so far behind?
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>>383342112
They're not playing the games for the sole purpose of fun, they're playing them because it's their fucking JOB.
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>turn based combat sucks
>immediately posts examples of games with turn based combat that he likes
I don't understand this crusade against turn based combat. Yea obviously some games do it terribly, but there are a lot of games that do real-time/action combat terrible as well (Elder Scrolls comes to mind); no one plays those and thinks WOW REAL-TIME COMBAT SUCKS, they just chalk it up to the game having shitty combat. For some reason every time a moron plays a boring JRPG suddenly its the fault of an entire genre of gameplay and not the fault of the game.

Reminds me of that dumbfuck review of Darkest Dungeon where the guy's central argument is that "turn-based combat is boring".
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>>383342112
>Not to mention the games may be boring or frustrating
Yea, that's generally how a job works. I understand if its a 100 hour monster game or something but there's zero excuse for not finishing a fucking platformer other than being a lazy, sloppy dipshit with a lazy, sloppy work ethic.
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do you guys play video games?
if you play the first ~20% of anything and can't get a general understanding of the game I could understand your arguments

it's not like we have a bunch of groundbreaking new mechanics or people coming up with new genre's left and right
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>>383342112
Don't be a fucking video game critic then.
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Because people don't fall for the
>it gets good x hours in meme
like I do
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>>383342484
That's called a first impression, not a comprehensive review which is what people expect from critics. If I wanted a first impression and not an actual analysis, I'd pirate the game and play it myself.
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>>383342258
True, but if they don't have to play it entirely to form an opinion on it they shouldn't have to.
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>>383329503
Why don't you form your own opinions
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>>383342484
What if the game completely shits the bed 1/3rd of the way through in terms of level design, story and repetitive gameplay?
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>Trusting reviewers
Why? Trust your friends and such you know have experience with specific genres and if its a competitive genre trust pros with unbiased histories.

There is no reason at this point to trust reviews id rather trust some faggot on gamefaqs review then these "professional" journalists.
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>>383331471
10 hours is actually normal for a game these days. In fact, it's long for an indie game.
10 hours is also not unheard of as a film's duration; Dekalog, Shoah, Crude Oil, Out 1, Berlin Alexanderplatz - all run over 10 hours.
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>>383342643
You can easily fully analyze a game by playing halfway through
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>>383340284
Nice Idubz screenshot haha
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You're asking way too much.
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>>383343514
You can't analyse any kind of media unless you play/watch the whole thing.

For example, the "would you kindly" deal in bioshock completely changes your perspective on the game, be it for better or worse, and need to play the entire game to know that.

The same applies to movies, for example The sixth sense.
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>>383329503
Normally I'd agree, but this is a remaster collection right? Wouldn't he be able to glean the aspects of the remaster that actually alter the game from the first half if he's already played them all?
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>>383342112
>A movie is often 1-2 hours long
Sure, and sometimes it's 4. Sometimes it's even longer.
I wouldn't read a Satantango review if it was preceeded by the statement that the reviewer only watched the first 2 hours.

Video game journalists get a pass because video game journalism is a sham, let's not kid ourselves. If this industry was held to the same standards as others, sure, we wouldn't get reviews as quick or as many, but we wouldn't have reviewers playing half a game and then writing an article, or the Editor in Chief of a leading website married to the Vice President of Public Relations of one of the biggest video game hardware and software producers.
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I think playing the whole game through is good if you are going to give it a positive review. To ensure the whole game is consistently good.

If the game is so bad you just can't be assed to play through it all the way, you slam that shit with a 0. Now, it would be nice to ensure the whole game is consistently bad and play through it all the way, but I think it's understandable if a game is just plain that bad that you feel it's a waste of anyone's time to even pick it up in the first place.
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>>383343923
>financial website reviewing videogames
Why?
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>>383343425
Also worth mentioning TV shows usually top 10 hours per season, and with the rise of Netflix style services, critics will often have to sit through an entire season before writing a review.
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>>383344385

I think that works. Like even if the game is great after 10 hours, you still need to slog through 10 hours of shit. I can finish a good game in that time.
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>>383330434

Bye senpai
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>>383344989
It's not their fault that Taro doesn't know how an ending works.
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>>383344168
But there is is different levels of effort being, and you can easily stay more engaged in a film than you would a game. If half of satantango was shit, then you shouldn't watch it
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>>383341490
Yeah, unlike you, who likes people until they do something stupid, then you pretend you never liked them at all. I just described most of /v/ come to think of it.
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>I hate he doesn't likes Anime
I hope this is a meme.
I'm at the point of no return, I've have spent thousands on merchandise, gone to Japan for comiket and other events.
I won't loose my shit just because someone doesn't likes what I don't, you have to respect everyone's taste and give them your opinion instead of flipping your tits.
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>>383345589
>you have to respect everyone's taste
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>>383345589
>he fell for the anime meme
no one actually likes anime anon, we just pretend as a meme to try to troll people into believing other people like it.
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>>383332320
nig***ger
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>>383345589
>i dont like anime except for this guy
he clearly hates shitty modern anime held up only by cute girls and horny virgins. Which is the majority of the world's opinion on it
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>>383343989
Plot twists are things that you should honestly find for yourself so they keep their effect
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>>383337684
So did I and I fucking loved crash and the remakes. You just have bad taste.
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>>383346267
But he used Inuyasha as an example.
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>>383337565
Not saying I'm a fan of weebs but you know where you are right?
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>>383344989
That seems fair honestly. I haven't played Nier, but a New Game+ isn't going to save a game you dislike.
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>>383337565
you seem better suited for reddit.
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>>383342686
The whole point is they shouldn't be able to have an informed opinion without experiencing the entire game first. If they fucking hate it and want to stop playing immediately then they can give it a 1 out of 10 and say that in the review. But notice how this literally never happens and the lowest scores given are 7/10.
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>>383343425
>10 hours is also not unheard of as a film's duration
yes it is what are you fucking talking about. modern film critics rarely have to deal with 10 hour movies.
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>>383343696
that isn't Idubz
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>>383329503
what the fuck
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>>383330218

Shut up fag, this is only a recent thing when they started to hire dropkicks from lefty outlets because of nepotism, these virtue signaling, agenda enabling fags don't even play games as proven by the gameplay videos from polygon.

back in the day journalist would play the games from start to finish, while Jim is a fat disgusting numale cuck, he actually plays the game from start to finish.
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>hire 1000 people to review games
>still cant finish any
can't wait till they all die desu
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>>383347563
>back in the day journalist would play the games from start to finish
Back in the day they wouldn't get caught, because they knew how to keep their mouths shut.
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>>383346592
You have objectively bad taste if you like Crash
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>>383345443
I've never liked Dunkey, his audience has the mind of 12 year olds.
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FUCK CRITICS

I BOUGHT NIOH BECAUSE THESE COCKSUCKERS CAN'T SINK MORE THAN EIGHT HOURS INTO A GAME BEFORE SLAPPING A NUMBER ON IT

IT WAS A 5/10 AND WAS RATED AS HIGHLY AS BLOODBORNE
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>>383343923
Reminder that this guy did this review spitefully because it "Was taking him away from Zelda"
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>>383340147
He says right there you don't have to agree with everything a critic says.
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>>383329751
We have been complaining about reviewers not finishing games since before you were born.
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>>383336839
A T T I C
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>>383340147
>liking the cliched high school fanservice crap that the japanese animation sweatshops shit out

anime is dead
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>>383345589
It's a natural reaction here, because on 4chan someone openly hating anime is a sure sign of them being a shitposter. It's like seeing a brightly colored frog.

But yeah, I get your point.
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>>383337565
I don't watch anime but if you're on 4chan and you use the word weeb unironically, you need to get the fuck out right now
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>effeminate nu-male cuck
>never getting anything done properly

what a surprise
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>>383338087
>fagmac
>voss

What a meme
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depending on the games length? Certainly.

I would not expect a reviewer to play through all of Darkest Dungeon, for instance. It takes quite a long time to do so (well they could do easy mode). But they should have a grasp of all the basics the game has to offer.
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>>383331691
You didnt even get the black pill right retard but that's probably all the moeshit clogging your brain
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