There are four types of maps >Single path (includes mazes

>>383275778
Bottom right is perfectly fine if the collectibles are marked on the map. If they aren't, then that shit's Satanic and the developers need to be killed.

Would dark souls 1 count as the 3rd? Because thats my favorite map type

>>383275778
Wrong, there are actually 72 types of map types.

>>383275951
No one likes open world maps. That's why they all have fast travel.

(possible except: using the game world for role playing instead of playing the game)

>>383276020
Depends on the area. The game world as a whole? Yes. The Undead Burg? Yes. Anor Londo? No. (Anor Londo castle? Maybe)

>>383276107
I think there can be good open world maps. First example that comes to mind is wow's map. It's pretty dead nowadays but back when people still explored it was a really fun time

>>383276107

I like open world maps

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>>383276107
Wrong. Shit's great if the collectibles are marked and the combat's fun.

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>>383276107
STALKER isn't a game i'd say is good per se, but its open world is definitely something special. I have so many positive memories of spending time in that space

> Sniping bandits in a thunderstorm with NVGs
> Running from bloodsuckers into an abandoned house, sitting with a shotgun, waiting the night out to make a run for it, with the sounds of them outside
> Coming across a battle between two factions, and trying to sneak past, only killing when I had no choice.

And don't even get me started on all those encounters with anomolies. It always felt like a world where something weird, scary, or dangerous was around every single corner.

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>It's a multiple path map with points of no return everywhere

>>383276107
Open World is fine as long as there's no fast travel.

Teleporting ruins it every time.

>>383276769
That sounds cool as fuck.

For me it's:
1. Better
2. Bad
3. Worst
4. Best

Just let me get on with things.

>>383276898
Fast Travel is fine if you can only travel to places you've actual been to. Like, I don't want to spend 5 hours backtracking to the first town because a sidequest requires me to speak with Old Man McTutorial.

>>383275778
>best
>multiple paths
LOL
That maps a fucking joke.

>>383276898
You can do some form of fast-travel, as long as it's not just "open the map, click somewhere you've been to teleport".

I like "fast travel" systems are when you have to go to a specific point, like a bus stop, and then fast travel from there to another bus stop.

I also really like if you can drop your own fast travel spot, and move it a round, setting up a "base camp" type thing. That stuff is really nice, because it lets you make a home somewhere and expand outwards, moving camps at times.

I can only think of Dragon's Dogma and Terraria that really do this though

>>383277228
No, even then that just means you bumrush to the next town without looking at anything so you can collect another fast-travel point.

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>>383276898
Not even. Some games do it right. Fast travel exists 'cause it's annoying as fuck to walk everywhere. Nobody has time for that shit.

The trick is to make the world interesting enough that you don't mind walking sometimes.

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>>383276649
Why do you keep posting Horizon like its some sort of example to uphold

>>383277364
Only if you're fucking retarded. Who plays games like that?

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God tier map design coming through.

>>383277134
It has some really nice thunderstorms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GKHUqskew

Know that during that video, he's in Pripyat, which is pretty much the endgame. Any one of these rooms could have anomolies, bandits, bloodsuckers, mutants, controllers, or worse.

>>383277506
People who think it's "annoying as fuck to walk everywhere, nobody has time for that shit"

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>>383277505
It's a fantastic open world, but you gotta play on Very Hard or Ultra Hard. If you haven't played it, don't talk shit.

>>383277554
I'm not clicking that shit till I get a confirmation it's not e-celeb bullshit.

>>383277609
>the only people who dislike Horizon have never played it!

Getting real tired of this pathetic bullshit.

>>383277683
>Not having embeded links
Get out of the stone age, gramps.

>>383277683
It's just some gameplay of some guy playing STALKER, anon, what the fuck would lead you to believe it had anything to do with e-celebs.

>>383277604
No. You don't get it. Fast travel is an option that's available for the sake of convenience. If the game's so shitty and uninteresting that you're rushing through the story, then fuck it. That game's garbage.

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>>383275778
I disagree.

>>383277726
You can't rightly criticize a game without experiencing it with an open mind. If the whole board acted like me, this place would be a fucking paradise.

>>383277810
Is it commentated?

>>383277948
fucker

>>383278017
So what if it is? What, did youtubers kill your parents?

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>>383277961
>y-you never played it!
>a-alright you played it, b-but you didn't play it right!

If the whole board acted like you it would be a vapid echochamber hugbox where entertainment is mandatory and dissent is verboten.

>>383277856
No. You don't get it. Every game with fast travel just says "No one's going to see this shit anyway they'll all be fast travelling, why put effort into it."

>>383278529
Are you fucking retarded? Playing a game with an open mind means you're giving it a fair chance. Doesn't mean you'll love it or even like it. Not clicking your faggy picture, btw.

>>383278321
I hate YouTube and Twitch faggotry. I only watch uncommentated gameplay. Sorry you got such low standards.

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>>383278731
Except that's blatantly fucking false. Believe it or not, most developers give a fuck. Sounds like you played Skyrim and gave up on the genre.

>>383278738
>y-you didn't play it!
>a-alright you played it, but you didn't play it the right way!
>o-o-ok, you played it the right way, b-but you didn't give it a fair chance!

Pathetic.

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>>383276769
Personally my favorite parts of STALKER were the interior levels, the ones that were usually semi-linear.

Even then, the open world in STALKER was still good because it was fairly condensed. Lot of landmarks and things like cities and buildings to make the exploration more involved. The overworld isn't that big compared to most open world games, but that's probably why it was good; it wasn't obscenely bloated for the sake of "5325 TIMES BIGGER THAN [insert other open world game here]'S WORLD!!!!" marketing hype.

>>383279201
You don't like a thing?
So what?

>>383279294
I think Metro 2033 really takes the best of STALKER's indoor sections and makes the most out of it.

>>383279201
Sounds like you're trying to justify your rampant shitposting.

>>383277948
this unironically

which one would you classify the witness as

>>383279442
>What do you mean you dislike it!? Clearly you've never even played it!
>a-alright you played it, but you didn't play it the right way!
>o-o-ok, you played it the right way, b-but you didn't give it a fair chance!
>f-fine, you gave it a fair shake and still disliked it. s-so what? why would i care anyway?

It's always the same shit with you retards.

>>383279782
If you go into a game already hating it, you're gonna hate it. If you shitpost a game before playing it, you're a retard. Stick to shit that's obvious, like art design. Don't talk shit about a game's gameplay if you've never fucking played it.

>>383280237
You never get it, do you.

I went into the game completely open to it, but in the end the game just sucked.

But oh no, that's wrong! No one is allowed to dislike it! Anyone who expresses anything other than orgasmic love is a shitter who played it wrong or never played it at all and is trying to get a rise out of me, no one could possibly dislike this game in earnest.

For a man arguing for open-mindedness it's amazing how shut off you are towards anyone that doesn't agree with you.

>>383275778
>Backtracking
>Better than linear