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>objectively the best thing to happen to consoles and the only consoles made by people who aren't complete retards
>ridiculously hated on the internet and in niche communities

why?
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>>383261480
Have you seen the shit Microsoft has been pulling lately?
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>>383261480
Xbox One has no good games.

I regret buying mine. Previous gens were fine.
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their recent years have been full of blunders:
> lacking in good exclusives
> microsoft are pricks
> xbone is more of a second PC than a dedicated games console

i don't mind the xbox myself, but most vocal people on /v/ and the internet project their insecurities about their choice of console by shitting on others
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>paid online
>best thing to happen to consoles
Also
>only consoles not made by retards
>360 had over 50% failure rate and the Xbone had one of the worst vidya debuts ever to the point of having to scrap most of the shit they added to it including kinect and forced online
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>>383261576
they're doing nice things lately
all halo DLC is free
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For pretty much the last two decades consoles have just been nothing but physical DRM preventing you from playing a lot of the games you want. The Xbone on the other hand prevents you from playing any of the exclusives you want.
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>>383261857
>Sony on the other hand prevents you from playing any of the exclusives you want.
fix'd for ya
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Microsoft dropped the ball completely this gen

>DRM fiasco pre-launch
>weaker hardware
>weaker exclusives

though the biggest offender for me is their online store, it's such an eyesore compared to the playstation store it's not even funny.
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>>383262312
Are you retarded? The Xbox store is light years ahead of PS Store unless you're talking about the web browser one.
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>>383261480
>the only consoles made by people who aren't complete retards
The 360 had a 70% failure rate cause it literally melted its own processor
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>>383261480
The Xbox hasn't had a good exclusive since Voodoo Vince. If I wanted to play dudebro shooters I'd play on PC.
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>>383262387

Honestly every iteration of the PS Store has been dogshit. The browser one is a god send and even then it has problems.
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No games this generation, especially since the only games that might possibly convince people to buy the system are now being released simultaneously on PC.
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>>383262402
>Got my 360 in 2007
>Still works great to this day
>Got my PS3 in 2013
>Dead by 2015
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>>383262402
That's Astro fault tho
Those homossexual designers
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>>383262387
Talking about the actual website, I have no idea what it looks like when browsing it through the console itself.
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>>383261480
OG Xbox was fine but a bit unpopular so the library wasn't too hot

360 was very nice at first when PS3 was busy being no games station but then PS3 got almost all the same games ported to it + many more more exclusives, still it's not bad or anything

Xbox One is just a worse PC, especially after MS started putting their first party games on PC as well. It has no exclusives worth speaking of. Even the one or two that looked potentially interesting were lost, like Scalebound.

Mind you PS4 is not looking that hot either to someone who already has a PC and Switch so far is just a port station really.
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>the only consoles made by people who aren't complete retards

This is what Micropajeets ACTUALLY believe.
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>>383261480
name one positive contribution the Xbox has made to gaming.
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It's just cause western console games suck right now and don't appear to be getting better anytime soon.

If you like nip games you'd get a switch or PS4

If you "actually" like shooters you'd play on PC
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>>383263040
Shouldn't you be syncing your trophies, sonybro?
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>>383262835
>70% is 100%

Also, 2007 is when they finally got around to doing something about the problem.
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>>383263058
Made HDD's in consoles a default feature
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>>383263136
no
jasper model is 2008
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Phil Spencer seems like a pretty cool guy and is moving the company in the right direction, but there still isn't any reason to get an Xbox One if you already have a good PC.
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>>383263058
Popularizing online gaming
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>>383263058
Sony ggers seem to forget whatever sony did
If the 360 controller was not that good ps3 would not has a simple vibration feedback
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>>383262565
No, the original Blue store was fine at least for me. Things were much more neatly organized and it was speedy to use.

The following darker themed store has always been so bad it's insane on a PS3. It feels like I'm trying to run it with a Pentium 1 using a dial-up modem, browser version works completely fine.
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>>383263372
>If the 360 controller was not that good

>people unironically think that dpad is any good
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>created the pay us to use your own internet and we're going to give you nothing of value in exchange bullshit named xbox live
>literally helped todd invent DLC and then expanded its presence to an absurd degree
>led the charge of modern consoles as disposable planned obsolescence bricks of broken trash
>tried so hard to destroy consumer rights in video games that it's almost killed their market presence completely

haha yeah b-based microsoft
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>>383261480
>objectively the best thing to happen to consoles
You couldn't be further from the truth.

Here's the list things Xbox/Microshit made "normal"
Paid online
DLC
Day zero patches
Always Online DRM
Designed Obsolescence
Forced "Upgrades"
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>>383261480
>and the only consoles made by people who aren't complete retards
nigger what
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>>383263578
The PS3 store became close to unusable once the PS4 came out or shorty after it, can't quite remember.

Granted the interface on the PS4 isn't all that great to begin with, horizontal lists that struggle to load very basic thumbnails with massive framedrops when scrolling. No idea what it's like on the xbone right now, but the tiles looked atrocious.
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>>383263372
not sure what you're trying to say but you know the ps2 came out before the 360 right?
(as well as the original xbox)
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>>383264189
Dont remember the whole sixaxis thing? Psycho Mantis getting all confused when he tried to move the controller?
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>>383263960
>Day zero patches
MS were actually against this
They charged dev lots of money for patches because they didn't want people making unplayable games that they can patch later.
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>>383263338
how is that a good thing again?
id rather have online gaming go back to being dominated by Quake and fan made mods than the obslute cancer that is modern onine gaming culture
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>>383263589
yeah but there's rumble
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>>383264076
I still don't understand how they managed to make a 2D menu that runs worse than almost any 3D game.
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>>383264353
Online gaming was always cancer
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>>383264189
So you're proving I'm right eh
>Sony ggers seem to forget whatever sony did
>forget
they pretend stuff, just like neogaf
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>>383264336
This.
MS would never let No Man's Sky happen
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>>383264353
quake isn't good
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>>383264597
No idea, I personally try to avoid using it completely and just buy and remotely download things through my PC or phone.
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>>383263960
All of this.
Once again, America taught Japan that you can get away with ridiculous jewery, and Japan took the lesson to heart.
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MS funded fighting game: Killer Instinct
Sony funded fighting game: SFV lol
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>>383263372
this is a joke, right? somebody please tell me this is a joke.
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>arguing over which near-identical box is better when its only purpose is to limit your selection of games
They both have ~1.6GHz AMD CPUs of the same architecture, 8 gigs of RAM, ~900MHz GPUs of the same architecture. Imagine if Steam, GOG and Origin had largely the same games, and each charged you $300 per account, and people defended it. That is the console market.
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>>383265064
In KI you have to play a formal rock-paper-scissors game to combo while in SFV it doesn't bring up a prompt but it's also rock-paper-scissors
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>>383264604
>>383264850
just because you wernt born when it was happening doesnt mean it was bad Halokiddies
>you will never log on enemy territory again and play with a group you have become familiar with
>you will never play Quake 3 with custom characters
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>>383261480
>made by people who aren't complete retards
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>>383265198
Hey TotalBiscuit I love your videos but you forgot to mention that some games wouldn't exist if it wasn't for first party funding
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>>383265198
You realize consoles are mostly sold at a loss or very thin profit margins? It's like if you got a PC for $500 instead of $700 and then had to pay for online. It might be a worse deal in the long run, but I'd still take it.
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>>383261480
How young are you?
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>>383261480
Beside Scorpio looking really nice I don't think Microsoft did anything else right, or at least better than Sony/Nintendo.
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>>383265408

Not op, but Halo 1-3 was basically my adolescence and I'm almost 28.
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>>383261480
Xbone didn't really do anything aside from pissing people off at launch.
360 pissed off people after the first year of launch and when Kinect made people realize how garbage it was.
Xbox HUEG was the only decent console.
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>>383265252
Used to play CS back in the day, it was cancer
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>>383265408
>people born in 1999 can post on /v/ now
>OP was probably 6 years old when the 360 released
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>>383261480
Fuck off retard regional blocks and shady practices make microsoft what they are
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>>383265667
CS is still cancer, it was always a terrible shooter that only casuals played, back in the day people would look at CS players the same way people look at COD kiddies
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>>383265314
Publishers and developers are more than capable of funding their own bloated AAA's in this day and age.

>>383265352
If you and your friend buy basically identical PC's from different brands, you can still play online together. One of you doesn't have to drop another $500 on what is essentially the same machine with a different logo. If you bought a Dell, you wont need to buy an HP to play a game just because HP funded the game's developer.
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>>383265759
>xbox is the only drm-free console right now
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>>383265150
I know this is bait, but no, not a joke

apart for needing two jobs to afford a ps3, sony also declared vibration motors were old tech and nobody would care, but the truth is they couldn't figure out a way to make they crappy motion controller work with the vibration motors

there were literally sony ggers like (You) in game forums claiming nobody really cares about rumble, just like they will claim nobody cares about graphics when scorpio launches
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>>383262237
Both of them are shit. No games at all.
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>>383262879
>Completely disregarding the management change
Retarded.
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>>383265932
>DRM free
>comes with a locked version of Windows 10
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>>383261480
>objectively the best thing to happen to consoles

You misspelled worst.
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>>383265914
>If you and your friend buy basically identical PC's from different brands, you can still play online together. One of you doesn't have to drop another $500 on what is essentially the same machine with a different logo. If you bought a Dell, you wont need to buy an HP to play a game just because HP funded the game's developer.

MS stopped doing exclusives over a year ago.
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>>383261480
>tipping the og xbox sideways
silly desu
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>>383265707

Halo 1 is 16 years old.
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>>383265914
So why don't they fund those? They are obviously profitable, just look at Nioh and Persona 5, for example
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>>383265932
>regional blocks
>Forgetting that the every Nintendo console is too except for the switch and so were the PS1 and PS2
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>>383263058
Literally everything to do with modern gaming network infrastructure. They did it in 2002 for around half the price of a game for a year.
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>>383265603
>>383265707
Fuck, i keep forgetting your here forever, ill be in this or someother chan forever. Fuck
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>>383266171
The developers probably told them something along the lines of "We dont need any more money, you're already getting a cut of our profits, fuck off"
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>>383265990
are consolefags really this obbsessed by having the controller vibrate like some kids toy?
what exactly does it add to the gameplay?
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>>383266169
and bubsy 3D is over 20. doesnt make it any better if somebody defends it
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>>383261480
kek try harder, Jamie Moran.
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>>383266068
Developers dont want to be stuck on a platform thats sold half of what Sony has. And hasnt MS sold off/shuttered a ton of its developers?
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>>383266498
But Halo isn't bad unlike Bubsy 3D
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>>383261576
>BC all the way back to the original Xbox
>Cross-play
>Cross-buy
>Digital Refunds
>Actual AAA games in the monthly "free" games most of the time
>Can keep the 360 games forever. Even after gold expires
Truly the cancer of the industry. Man, Xbone is almost a really good console. Almost. It is just lacking in games sadly. I'm only using mine right now to play through Lost Odyssey... If only the Xbone had some god tier JRPGS like the 360 did
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>>383266373
everyone mentality: you can turn it off in the settings anon
don't need to get mad over it

sony gger/neogafer mentality: this is kiddy stuff on my sony! nobody cares about his shit anymore! or else pstriple would has it from launch day!
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>>383263101
Shouldn't you be syncing your achievement's Xbot?
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>>383261480
>the only consoles made by people who aren't complete retards
How fucking underage must you be that you forgot about RRoD? Aka one of the absolute worst blunders in console history?
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>>383266293
gee thanks alot for modern online gaming Microsoft
things where so terrible before they arived am i right?
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>>383266360
That's wrong, though
You rarely see publishers taking risks. 1st party funding let's people be creative and make different games cause they need that diverse library to sell a console
Publishers only give people money nowadays if it's a stellar success (like Namco hiring FromSoft for DaS after DeS's success)

Nioh sold well, why aren't publishers throwing money at Koei-Tecmo for a multiplat sequel? Why aren't people throwing money at Atlus after Persona 5 exploded both in the East and the West? Simple answer: because publishers don't want risks and first parties will gladly take a hit for exclusive content

Exclusives are good.
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>>383261480
all the 360 consoles were beautiful.
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>>383261480
Honestly it all ended with the Bone.
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>>383261480
consoles (for home use) are always bad, stop supporting this garbage it's holding back the videogame industry
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>>383266559
>But Halo isn't bad
if only i could still report you for being underage
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>>383266717
>Forgetting about the ylod
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>>383266742
I will defend that

Halo 2 DLC was all made free after a while (in fact, some of it was already free by the time that disc came out). That disc exists mainly for people who don't have an online connection, that's why they included the patches on the disc too.
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>>383266921
Doesn't hold a candle.
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>>383266860
If only you could die from being overage grandpa, get off my board
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>design your 360 E and Xbones to lay horizontal, which is good because vertical is objectively shit
>put the fan on top of the console so when not in use all the dust falls inside the console
BRAVO
R
A
V
O
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>>383266678
>hey man man look i can enjoy old games! MS just gave me permission to play my old games, who buys a new console for new games, what kind of idiot does that
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>>383266830
consoles are keeping games from being a monopoly.
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There has always been a hate for Microsoft ever since they joined the console market. All gaming journalist are baised towards sony and nintendo and hate Microsoft. Even now that the xbox one x is the most powerful console and will get backwards compatibility, people are still shit talking the console. As for Japanese games, most modern japanese games are anime weebshit for the matter. I don't even care for atlus especially what they did to the shimigami tensei for og xbox. Cathrine was the only and last unique game they made in a long time. Namco, capcom, tecmo, konami and square Enix are pretty much the only Japanese companies that matter now a days
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>>383262546
Microsoft pulls a lot of bullshit I don't like, but this is honestly the biggest argument against the XBox
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>>383267035
>your board
nice reddit mentality
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>>383266860
>Halo was my first FPS meme
It's like people forgot that Golden Eye predates Halo like by 4 years, and even thought it was outclassed by Perfect Dark, it still regarded as the best FPS in the N64.
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>>383267040
oh man, that's not rocket science
open you computer case and you'll see this doesn't happen
man you are trying really hard, but stop bullshitting
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>>383267075
t. Proud PSNow Subscriber
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>>383261480
>introduced paid online
>objectively best
kill yourself desu
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>>383267284
more like
>t. non poorfag that has to sell his old console to buy a new one
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>>383267031
>your console faulty is worse than my console faulty
It's the same fucking thing
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>>383266921
Over 50% of 360 owners had their console bricked because of that fucking ring; myself included. Doesn't hold anywhere close to the YLoD.
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>>383267210
gunna have to call your retirement home and get your internet disconnected in a sec if you don't shut your toothless gums
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>>383266860

I played halo when I was 13, I'm 27 now. It still holds up.

How old are you fag?
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>>383267391
More like
>I have have 4 different consoles plugged in than 1 that plays them all
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>>383267391
all the toy makers' target demographics are not collectors tho
they work with statistics, "normies" like virgins say

when you finish school and go to university you'll learn a lot of useful things about life
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>>383267087
what in the literal fuck did i just read
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>>383266751
Oh come on, the first party devs must be basically slaves to the manufacturer. They want to push consoles, so they're going to do exactly what worked before, for as long as they can. Look at what was announced at E3. Forza, GOW, Crackdown, GT, SOTC, it goes on.
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>>383267507
heres an upboat for that clever joke my fellow internetzor xD
gonna screencap it for that frontpage!
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>>383267483
>47% failure rate compared to less than 9%
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>>383267391
But I didn't sell my 360. I busted it out last November to play Tales of Vesperia for the first time because it wasn't (and still isn't, fuck you MS) BC. It's just that I'm not autstic so I don't have either a gazillion consoles stacked on each other plugged into a TV or a "custom gamer shelf" under my TV with every console ever in it. I put my old shit away. And in the Original Xbox's case, there's still no emulator, so your choices of playing those games are either buy an old console just for them or play them on your brand new one that also plays new games
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>>383267736
Why don't you just let your alzheimer's kick in so you can stop having this embarrassing senile rage about how out of touch you are when it comes to what makes games good?
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>>383266678
I don't understand why people are down talking the idea of backwards compatibility. The ability to play games from an era when games still felt like games is great.
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>introduced or made norm many modern gaming cancers with the original Xbox

it's sad that's also the only Xbox truly worth owning library wise
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>>383266541
As a developer I have little respect for Microsoft because of how they treat their studios. In my experience, they are a huge pain in the ass to work with, and way overvalue their importance. Sony was great to us. Nintendo was fine but actually became very easy to develop for when the Switch rolled around.

I was surprised when Platinum partnered with Xbox to make Scalebound. Then I wasn't surprised when Kamiya had enough of their bullshit and the project dropped years later.
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>>383267075

#PS3bcWHEN
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>>383268087
>Bullet sponge enemies, 2 weapon limit, health regen, bland level design, and shitty driving mechanics are considered good
peoplem will also praise the Last of Us in the future but it still wont be a good game
try playing more games if you want an actual conversation on video games on day other than'' REMEMBER WHEN CHIEF BLEW UP THAT SPACE STATION IT WAS SO EPIC XD''
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>>383268219
neogaf hates games, but of course because sony said so
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>>383262835
This. We're in the same boat.
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>>383263372
>If the 360 controller was not
It wasn't.
>ps3 would not has a simple vibration feedback
You know that has been a thing since the PSX, right?
Of course you wouldn't, you weren't even born like all the other Xbros kiddies.
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>>383268263
like what? when I think in "modern gaming cancers" I can only think in always online, mandatory downloads for incomplete games and DLC for things that are supposed to already be in a game (like clothes or characters).
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>>383268330
You even type like my dad but at least we agree tlou isn't good
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>>383261480
>Introduced paid p2p online bullshit
>Caused shitty western shift in 7th gen, most popular console games are now dumbed-down, former pc-exclusive genres
>Tried to establish an extremely anti-consumer drm regime on Xbone
>Killed their own first party support to focus on Kinect fad
>Sold their new console at 500$ because of Kinect 2, then they threw it in the garbage bin and fucked their early adopter
>Costantly shitting on their fans by changing their commercial strategy every two years

They single-handely destroyed console market in every possible way.
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>>383267952
Sure, the OG Xbox isn't emulatable yet. However, it is hackable. You can just buy one for $30 from Goodwill or some shit, hack it, put in a bigger hard drive, and pirate pretty much every worthwhile game. Since it's not guaranteed the Xbone will support the entire library.
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>>383268730
>should i engage in a argument
>no let me keep posting meme pictures that will show him
i rest my case
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The OG Xbox and the first 5ish years of the 360 were well regarded by the community.

The Kinect era 360 was rightfully mocked and ridiculed and the Xbone reveal couldn't have gone worse.

Less powerful, larger, power brick, looks like a VCR, no used games, forced kinect 2.0, more expensive, you get the picture.

After Matrick left Xbox started to get its mojo back a bit, but it's a hard hill to climb.
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>>383269983
>After Matrick left Xbox started to get its mojo back a bit, but it's a hard hill to climb.
And there are people who don't even want that, they genuinely want Xbox to die which will hurt gaming as a whole. NeoGAF is a website that genuinely wants to hurt gaming.
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>>383271273
>B-b-b-b-ut without Xbox gaming would be worse!!!!!! R-r-right....?

Nope.
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>>383271569

Why do you desire less competition?
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>>383271273
>Xbox dies
>Nintendo takes up market share
>some other company comes along to make a console
nobody is gonna miss you fags
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>>383271673

>Nintendo takes up market share
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>>383271673
Nintendo isn't taking the Xbox audience
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>>383271673
most of xbox's audience is the "nintendo is for gay faggots" type of people
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>>383271618
We had some of the best gaming generations of all times without (actual) competition.

Microsoft's contibution in consoles' market is useless if not harmful, nobody will ever give a fuck if they quit the industry right now.
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>>383271869
>>383271924
>implying it isnt already happening
the only 2 consoles seeing growth are PS4's and Switches, Xbox is the only one that keeps shrinking
xbox will probably join the likes of Atari, Collecovison and any other american console, forgotten in time
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>>383271924
Xbox fans will return where they always belonged, to fucking pc.
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this thread is full of beta cucks and shills. the only people who buy non-sony products are braindead retards. all of your exclusives are on microsoft windows 10 so they dont count and clearly microsoft has fucked up by having their games on multiple devices they release. also backwards compatibility is for faggots, maybe you should get new exclusives instead of playing old ones (crash doesnt count its new). btw don't bother replying to me, if anyone says anything bad about sony ill just respond with "w-well i mainly play on pc ha ha i win cuckold, but ps4 is pretty good too"
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>People think MS would leave the console market.
MS has enough money to out last the competition for eons. They're probably still in the console business out of spite
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>>383272221

Yes, and 95% of the xbox fans went to Playstation.

There's two different video game markets, Nintendo, and everyone else.

Nintendo doesn't even think Sony or Microsoft are their competitors.
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>>383272485
>Le epic falseflagging satire XD XD XD

You showed it to them Sonyggas bro!!!! XD
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>>383261480
They hate America.
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>>383272690
thx, it just really boils my water to think that people are playing video games on xbox when they could be playing it on ps4. i mean, why be wrong?
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>>383261480
>Kinect
>Kinect 2: Electric Boogaloo
>Gold Membership
>"Your console is your TV box now."
>Red ring
>Wanted to force shit DRM

I think there's more, can't remember what though.
But hey, my Xbone is seeing more use than the PS4 right now, so that's a good thing, I guess.
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>>383261480
>people put their xbox standing up


it's like you fuckers want to destroy the discs
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>>383261480
the last xbox literally looks like a wii

I just noticed this
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>>383261480
Well considering xbots are a dead race, I'm forced to assume that you're false flagging and therefore report you.
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>>383261480
Because it's completely geared towards Amerifats.
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>>383273801
Who the fuck actually puts consoles standing up?
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>>383273801
>>383274618
seems pretty clear to me that they're like that for aesthetic and space reasons, since no sane person has them standing up.
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>>383266678
The only reason they are like this now is becasue they WERE the cancer of the industry when they debuted the Xbone:

>Always online
>Kinect required
>No game sharing or renting
>Focus on being a multimedia box instead of a gaming console

Its a humbling experience for them going from the king to a peasant. Its the only reason they did any of the things you listed.
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>>383274927
>Xbox ever being "king"

Yeah, maybe in Burgerland, mate.
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>>383274927
>no game sharing
The whole point of the always was so you can game share with friends more easier.
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>>383274927
And they got assfucked for doing so, as the dirty kikes deserved. They went from an easy start in gen 8 to impossible mode. And the CEO who led all those decisions got fired and replaced.

Now Microsoft is far ahead of any console manufacturer when it comes to consumer satisfaction.
They've spent 4 years perfecting their service, and they're even starting to buy up exclusives we'll see come to fruition in a couple years.

It's objectively the best platform right now.

My PS3 that's about to die is going to make all those physical games I bought for a decade obsolete. Sony's reaction to backwards compatibility?

>I can say it is one of those features that is much requested, but not actually used much,

??? Yet they'll gladly sell """"""""HD Remasters"""""""" (bumping the native resolution up from 720p to 1080p) and charge me again for the same fucking games. Fucking Japanese kikes.

#4ThePlayers LMAO
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Xbox huge? Yes.
The others? No.
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>>383275720
>and they're even starting to cancel more exclusives

ftfy
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Reminder: Without Microshit whoring into the console market, Halo would have released as a B-list shooter on PC, Chads and niggers would never buy it, and the golden era of sub 2000s vidya would have continued to this day.

Thanks, Xbox!
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>>383275720
>It's objectively the best platform right now
>No games
>B-b-b-but i can play x360 games
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>>383274927
>The only reason they are like this now is becasue they WERE the cancer of the industry when they debuted the Xbone:
Yes and?
If you hadn't noticed everything you've listed has been removed as a "feature".
Hell the last one was pretty much adopted by Sony in the following year, to which their fanbase ate it up.
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>>383261480
The order of pic related triggers my autism.

Regarding the topic, who knows what drives a person to do the work for their favourite company. It's like they dont want competition in the industry.
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>>383276008
I don't know man, GTA3 attracted a lot of Chads, niggers and casuals into gaming too. Halo and Xbox weren't the only people responsible. You could argue it began with Sony pushing the original PlayStation hard with celebs and on channels like MTV and that's when the seeds of the modern decline in gaming truly began.

And even further back, SEGA laying the ground by attracting dudebros with sports games and celeb liscences.
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>>383261480
>tfw just bought a wireless bluetooth controller
>can't install

fucking hell can't they put a fucking usb thing in here
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>>383263589
>using a dpad
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>>383266251
never had a pop up on nintendo saying THIS PRODUCT IS NOT AVAILABLE ON YOUR REGION when buying digital

fuck off
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>>383266921
>That picture
How nostalgic.
A kid from my school actually had the Ranma fighting game in his SNES. It was a bootleg like pic related. Mexico in the 90s when anime and the SNES were still huge were a fun time.
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>>383276008
>chads and niggers

And you losers wonder why nobody takes you idiots serious to begin with. You faggots Are No better than anyone else who is remotely interested in this hobby.
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>>383277330
Many people who would otherwise not touch vidya bought PS1 because it was also a good CD player and had the first 3d graphics normie games like racing games and sports games on a home console. PS2 and XboX then capitalized and expanded on this market even more and then by 7th gen "gamers were dead".
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There is a world outside of America OP and it doesn't give a fuck about Xbox as you can see in any marketshare statistic.

The rest of the world is Nintendo & Playstation land.
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>>383261480
Who the fuck hates the Xbox and the 360? People don't like the Xbone because it has no games.
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>>383275720
>>383274927
>>383266678
>>383261480
They tried to pull a lot of shit and they will try again.

Just look at W10
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>>383274618
Every Nintendo Switch owner and retards with other systems.
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>>383279683
It doesn't matter with the switch because it uses cards, not discs.
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>>383275720
>when it comes to consumer satisfaction.
It's easy to please the last few retarded cultists hanging around.
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>>383279573
If bethesda's return of paid mods is anything to go by, you cannot trust a company to learn the right lesson from their mistake. They will always learn the "oh I guess we shouldn't have done that yet" lesson and not the "oh I guess we shouldn't have done that, period" lesson like they should.
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>>383262835

>Shitrpost regularly with 2 schoolfriends who're diehard Sony fans
>They shit all over my 360 at every available opportunity
>Their PS3's both get the YLOD at 15 months old
>My launch 360 was still alive by that point
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>>383277654
Their physical games are regionlocked. You can import a game disc from anywhere and play it on your PS4 or XB1. Jesus fuck my friend important a limited edition Zelda Wii U controller from Japan, the thing wouldn't work on his Wii U because the tablet controllers have separate regional firmware which ensures they only work on consoles from that region
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>>383261785
> xbone is more of a second PC than a dedicated games console

In retrospect, I prefer the xbone's philosophy. MS said "you and I both know that the big two consoles are going to be the exact same shit in a different color, so we're also making our console double as a media center". Sony said "you and I both know that the big two consoles are going to be the exact same shit in a different color, so fuck it, you're paying for online now". For all the shit we gave to the xbone for not being a dedicated games machine, I don't think we stopped to consider why we actually want that. Shit, I'm currently browsing a Tibetan pottery forum on my primary gaming platform, but my PC isn't about to burst into flames.
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>>383280219
Fuck off retard
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>>383280298
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>>383280298 (You)
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>>383275720
>MS HAS LEARNED THEIR LESSON
>XBONE IS GETTING BETTER
>THE GAMES ARE COMING GUYS WE SWEAR
the exact same shill argument since 2013
posted anytime somebody tries to defend the bone
after 4+ years on the market, what does the bone have to show for it
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>>383266251
Weren't those locks because of the 50/60Hz differences?

>>383277654
What are you talking about?
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>>383280375
>>383280441
so, what, microsoft has joined the party and is now paying people to be apologists for their failed abortion?
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>>383280598
fuck off retard
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>>383280219
>why should a GAME console be dedicating to having GAMES
i dont even need to have this argument
go back to wherever the hell you came from
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>>383280513
>what does the bone have to show for it
Better online, cheaper, better controller (going by whats popular on pc), better ""free"" games, backwards compat, average person thinks it has the better exclusives going by proportion in best sellers (pic related)
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>>383280683
fuck off retard
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>>383280685
>le no game smeme
look at this pic >>383280716

They've both been multiplat machines for ages.
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>>383280685
Gee, maybe because space under the TV is incredibly competitive. A console can fill the need of gaming, movie player and smart apps like Netflix.

Ever since consoles started shipping with CD drives, they became about entertainment as well as gaming.

PS2 sold so well at launch due to it being the cheapest DVD player on the market, PS3 sold so well at launch despite no games due to it being the cheapest blu-ray player on the market.
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>>383261841
>>383266678

lmfao i remember seeing these same acomments when sony was getting their shit pushed in with the ps3. they aren't good guys you fucking retards. they're desperately trying to save face because no one wanted to buy their spyware console or operating system. xbone is dead and so is microsoft store.
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>>383280685
>being able to do MORE than playing games is detrimental to games!

Kill yourself.
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>>383266293
If MS hadn't done it, someone else would have, and they likely wouldn't have immediately charged for it, which was the case with Sony for the PS3.

Microsoft is a cunt of a company that has only started showing goodwill to its gaming customers because they're losing so badly to Sony. They fuck their customers over at every single turn. I primarily played console games on the 360 last gen, and it was like being fucked in the ass over and over again, and then to really put an exclamation point on it, they brought out an over-priced hunk of junk in the XBONE that was going to need to be connected 24/7 and record me jacking off eveyr day. It's like they got on their knees and begged me not to buy their piece of shit console.

The original Xbox was cool. It didn't have the games of the PS2, but it was a powerful, well-built console with some really interesting and fun exclusive titles.

The 360 was a better product because they had the games and were contending with an overpriced blu ray player, but holy shit, what a disaster it was in terms of design. I cannot believe how many of those early consoles failed. It was disgusting. There should have been a recall and M$ should have been sued. It amazes me that this didn't happen. They sold a product that was designed in such a way that it would fail within a couple of years, and they kept selling these broken hunks of junk for years.

The XBONE is not only shit; it has no games. Why would you buy a console if it had no games? They have done one good thing, though, and that's make every one of their exclusives available on PC too. Now no one has to buy their piece of shit box and Xbox as a console can fade into existence. Everything MS does outside of the software it has a monopoly on fails. It can't do music players, it can't do phones, and it can't do gaming consoles, and this is because M$ would rather go balls in and try to bleed its consumers dry than make a successful product.
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>>383280716
>Uncharted selling more than Halo
holy shit wasnt this their flagship franchise
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>>383269691
>tumblr
Not even him but both of you should kys
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>>383280716
>Halo Forza and Gears
ah the great Xbox spice of variety
also we are talking about quality exclusives here, nobody gives a shit about how much they sold for Halo or Uncharted
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>>383280840
>>383280921
>>383281246
>Normies these days have their laptop set up to their TV's
>or have some shit smart TV
nobody uses consoles as a media centre anymore, this isnt 2007, theres a million other alternatives these days
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>>383267108
Isn't Catherine a Qbert clone?
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>>383280716
>Better online,
P2P and outtages are still a thing
>Better controller
subjective
>Average person thinks it has better exclusives
then why has Uncharted outsold every single xbone game on the list?
even TLOU, a fucking port, outsold Xbox's main mascot
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>>383282075
>nobody uses consoles as a media centre anymore

And Im sure you've met every Xbox gamer to make sure of that.
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>>383261480
Are you retarded or do you have Stockholm Syndrome?
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>>383282445
>why are games on a console being outsold 3:1 not selling as well?
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>>383282445
>then why has Uncharted outsold every single xbone game on the list?
Why do you think gta v has sold twice as many on ps4?
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>>383282758
>Xbox gamer
those barely exist anymore
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>>383261480
Why is the original Xbox 360 console in between the XBONE and XBONE S? It should be after the original Xbox.
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>>383283001
>Mariokart, Zelda and even splatoon outsold Halo on the fucking wiiu
just admit your console is shit man
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>>383281892
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>>383282758
>sept 2016- Feb 2017
lets take a look at the game releases for Xbone at the time
>Jackshit
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>>383283404
delet this, it'll force me to come to terms with the fact that my console is also shit and then I'll stop being a good goy for sony!
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>>383283404
and if we are going to use xdrone logic on this one, the ps3 has over 3000 games if we account ps2 back compat :^)
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>>383283302
Nintendo games are insanely popular and can even make up for the lack in console sales
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>>383283625
and so was Halo
was
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>>383283302
>the hardware manufacturer who has since 1996 sold consoles for any exclusively for their own first party games has high sales in first party games!
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>>383283404
>total game count is what matters, not individual quality exclusives
i like how even by this logic, Sony still wins with a total of over 6000 games
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>>383276008
Nah, counterstrike was already pushing out arena shooters and CS is awful.
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>>383283814
are you seriously implying Halo wasnt MS's hardware mover?
Halo 3 was the most played game on Xbox live until COD4
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>>383261606
>halo mcc
>gears of war 4
>killer instinct
>crackdown 3(hopefully)
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>>383283742
No ones denying that kek, popular (key word) exclusives have only existed on PC/nintendo since half way through the xbos 36/ps3 gen.
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>>383284014
No, I'm saying that no fucking shit a first party Nintendo franchise outsold Halo 5. Probably would've done that without two shitty games and a broken collection on an unpopular console, but that certainly helped.
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>>383284112
>>halo mcc
broken and MP is dead anything non Halo 4 related
>>gears of war 4
laughable attempt at capturing the quality EPIC brought to the series
>>killer instinct
only good game with a horrible release platform
>>crackdown 3(hopefully)
downgraded to the point where its not even the same game anymore
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>>383283443
>jackshit

September
(more games listed, these are just the biggest)

Dead Rising: Remastered
NHL 2017
FIFA 2017
Forza Horizon 3
XCOM 2

October

Warhammer: Virmintide
Mafia 3
Gears of War 4
Batman: Return to Arkham
Battlefield 1
Titanfall 2

November

Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
Watch Dogs 2
Assassins Creed: Ezio Collection
Final Fantasy 15

December

Dead Rising 4

January

Resident Evil 7
Hitman: Season 1

February

For Honor
Sniper Elite 4
Halo Wars 2


Look at that, nearly ALL of the Xbox's main exclusives launched, plus the usual slew of AAA games like Battlefield, Call of Duty, Resident Evil, Titanfall
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>>383284662
>nearly ALL of the Xbox's main exclusives launched

What exclusives are there?
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>>383281605
Yep, letting 343 do whatever they wanted was a mistake. Halo 4 killed the franchise. The only reason is sold well was off the name.
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>>383284773

Gears 4, Forza Horizon 3, Dead Rising 4, Halo Wars 2.

Basically every Xbox exclusive that isn't the Halo main series.
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>>383261480
honestly i love the way the xbone and the xbonex looks. much better than the ps4.
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>>383284662
>"Look at all these Xbox exclusives!!!"
>No exclusives whatsoever on the list

You can't make that shit up.

Jesus, laughing at poor Xbox fanboys it's not even funny anymore, it's like kicking a terminally ill little puppy at this point.
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>>383285129
Thanks Aaron.
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>>383284985
>Gears 4
Available on PC

>Forza Horizon 3
Available on PC

>Dead Rising 4
Available on PC

>Halo Wars 2
Available on PC

Nice "exclusives".
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>>383261480

Only good things they ever did was put hard drives on consoles and gave Jet Set Radio Future a home. MS isn't worth a damn otherwise.
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>>383285230

>moving the goalposts

They're still 1st party games that will never see the light of another console. Games that would have had Xbox Players excited to buy and play.

If you're the same guy who started this discussion then you're clearly burdened by an extra chromosome.
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>>383285230
>MS gives you the option to play on a superior platform? HA! I couldn't IMAGINE bloodborne without 30 second loading screens and a silky smooth 30fps!

wew desu senpai. PS4yearolds confirmed for stockholme syndrome'd battered wives!
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>>383284662
>that ''games list''
>has to pad it out with Fifa and NFL
>it still laughably shit
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>>383285230

>Noone uses their console as a media box anymore!
"Here's data showing that a large chunk of Xbox time is spent using it as a media machine!"
>Y...yeah but no games came out during that time period! That's why!
"Here's a list of the major AAA titles that came out during that period"
>Yeah but some of those you listed as exclusive are on PC too! Take that!
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>>383284208
>>383284208
That's because Halo 5 is trash. Very bad singleplayer, marketing deceived the buyers with regards to storyline. Halo is about the Chief, adding Osiris, 4 literally whos you'd have to read the books and watch a... not very good TV show in order to know who they were is not OK.
No fucking splitscreen, however the multiplayer was quite nice, Forge was nice too, yet they ruined its potential by making it a damn casino of P2W trash and moving slightly away from its arena FPS roots to capture some of the CoD/BF audience.
It's neither the game previous Halos were, nor is it a fully casualized game.

Not worth a 400€ console.
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>>383285535
>listing the most popular sports games on the planet is "padding out" a list to show Chuckes McFuckhead that games did indeed come out during that time period is "padding it out"
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>>383284014
It moved units but it wasn't the sole reason the consoles were sold. 360 sold what, over 80m units? End of life only like 15m of those were Halo 3, still barely more than some Nintendo 1st party titles.

I don't know where you're from but in burgerland Xbox is the console every single normie boy has to play COD on. That's split a shit ton this generation but it's still true. It was a multiplat machine, because that's all the normies care about. They don't care about your niche action game about a sex android. They play GTA, Fifa, and 2K, and whatever the fuck NFL games there are.
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>>383284662
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>>383285357
>ask for exclusives
>posts a bunch of multiplat titles
>S-Stop moving moving the goalposts! Th-They're first party!

No, retard. I asked for exclusives, not first-party titles.

>>383285479
No, I'm glad those games are playable on PC. it means I can play Forza without needing to buy a shitty console.

The point is that Xbox is a worthless platform. It has no exclusive content at all. I wish I didn't need to have a PS4 either, but it has games that I can't play anywhere else.
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>>383266703
You don't sync achievements on xbox.
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>>383284428
>broken and MP is dead anything non Halo 4 related
Fixed and who the fuck cares for Halo 4
>laughable attempt at capturing the quality EPIC brought to the series
Best gameplay in the series by far, only problem is it campaign.
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>>383285748
If you are willing and able to build a PC then all consoles are worthless except for the games they hold hostage. You should resent exclusives, not extol them.
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>>383285357

>They're still 1st party games that will never see the light of another console.

Seeing as a console is effectively just a specialized PC, I assume this means PS4/PS3/Vita crossplat "exclusives" count as honest exclusives by your logic? Or WiiU ports on Switch?
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>>383285748
>Nobody uses their console for media things!
"Here's proof they do"
>No games came out! Thats why!
"Here are the AAA titles from that time period
>Yeah but you called some of those games exclusives! Let me focus on that to draw attention away from the fact that I got completely BTFO from my original argument because I'm a fucking retard
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>>383276008

>Without Microshit whoring into the console market, Halo would have released as a B-list shooter on PC, Chads and niggers would never buy it

But Sony did that 5 years prior with the PS1. And 2000-2007 were amazing years for vidya
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>>383285748
>No, retard. I asked for exclusives, not first-party titles.


They are exclusive, exclusive to Microsoft platforms.
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>>383285837

>If you are willing and able to build a PC then all consoles are worthless except for the games they hold hostage.

No shit, Sherlock. Why do you think this board only gives a damn about exclusives on consoles?
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>>383284909

Halo was dead long before 343 ever got a hold of it
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>>383285837
> then all consoles are worthless except for the games they hold hostage

Right, that's why you have a console. To play games you can only play on that console.

> You should resent exclusives, not extol them.

My attitude towards them is irrelevant; they are the reason to buy a console over another. If a platform doesn't have exclusive content, or play games better than other platforms, it's worthless.
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>>383285885
>I assume this means PS4/PS3/Vita crossplat "exclusives" count as honest exclusives
Why wouldn't they? They are exclusives to the Sony brand, just gives you more options on which Sony console you want to play them on.
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>>383285995
Children fully rationalizing the console mommy and daddy gave them for Christmas was the best choice?
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>>383285949
>Subject of the conversation is the Xbox
>Guy lists Xbox games
>ask which are exclusive
>none of them are
>W-Well they're exclusive to MS

Pathetic.
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>>383285885
>I assume this means PS4/PS3/Vita crossplat "exclusives" count as honest exclusives by your logic? Or WiiU ports on Switch?

Yes, they would be exclusive to Sony and Nintendo.
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>>383279573
I don't disagree, but don't pretend any other console manufacturer isn't like this.

Nintendo had the crown with Wii and they completely blew it by being arrogant and thinking they could push out whatever garbage they could think up for their next console and still sell tens of millions.

Microsoft had the crown and they threw away the opportunity to secure deals (Bungie, COD, Activision DLC first/exclusive content) because they thought they didn't need it anymore. They also thought they could jew over their customers and make always online console DRM a thing, and eliminate used games making you pay extra for games you buy used. They got fucked.

A company is always trying to maximize shekels, this is a given. But at this point in time, after they got fucked, they are doing pretty good for a consumer. Now is THE time to own an Xbox.
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>>383286196

>still clinging onto this because his original argument got destroyed and he desperately wants to draw attention away from it
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>>383280685
There are no game consoles just restricted PCs
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>the state of xbox today
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> introducing paid online
> introducing paid dlc
> paywallling selling point features like netflix for years
> 360 hardware is the worst console hardware of all time
> no mandatory hdd on 360, even at end of life cycle
> forcing of dudebro gaming culture
> always online xbone that blew up in their face and single-handily gave sony the generation
i could go on and on but kill yourself op
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>>383286030
?
The mainline games only continued to peak before Bungie left. Bungie leaves, mainline games decline. And you can't blame it on the generation bump the rise of COD.
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>>383286252
Don't know what you're talking about. I jumped into the conversation when I asked which of the listed Xbox titles was exclusive.
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>>383286372
Then go back and read the entire discussion you pleb. Then kill yourself.
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>>383261480

I'm grateful for Xbox. Online console gaming was saved by them. OG xbox was a beast and dominated my play time even tho I owned all the consoles.They fell off since then but I'm a fan of the brand. I didn't want one but I got an X1 s gifted to me and it's pretty dope. I like the console design and prefer the interface. The backwards compatibility is pretty cool too. I like how it shows all the bx games I bought on 360 and can click and dl them when I want.
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>>383261480
they're not consoles. they're just walled-garden windows PCs.
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>>383261480
Cool bricks of plastic you have on display there. Any sick exclusives bruh?
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>>383286434
I asked a simple question - what exclusives does the Xbox has? The answer is none. So what point is there in owning the platform?
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>>383286030
>Reach sold much better than 3
>Bungie leaves
>sales plummet
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>>383286252
Bruh, nobody gives a fuck about your original argument. People just saw some retarded "exclusives" list and they jumped in to laugh at you, just for that.
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>>383261480
The 360 is a great console.
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>>383286530
You're asking unrelated questions that I don't give a shit about.
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What should I play? Where my Xbros at?
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>>383286542
>bands farewell tours sell better than their previous
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>>383286513
Yeah man we got Scalebound, and the new Phantom Dust, or Fable Legends, i heard Rare are also working on a Banjo Conker and Battletoads.Project Gotham Racing isnt dead either and we are also getting lost oddessy 2
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>>383286614
When people say the Xbox has no games, they understand the game has multiplatform titles. That's a given. What they are saying is that the console has no games separating it from the PC or PS4, and given it's less powerful than both, there's no reason to own one. All the games coming out on Xbox One will either be on PC or PS4, and those platforms also have additional games that the Xbox does not have. Do you understand?
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>>383286769
>we got Scalebound, and the new Phantom Dust, or Fable Legends
Lets be fucking honest, no one cared for Scalebound after its awful gameplay showcase and Fable Legends was trash from the beginning.
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>>383286929
You're now going off on a tangent about something completely unrelated to the original subject and I care even less.
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og xbox and 360 are one of my favorite console of all time
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>>383286542

4 sold almost as much as Reach and better than CE and 2 you moron. The series was never going get bigger than 3, regardless if Bungie kept making them
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>>383286092

The entire problem with the PS4 for its first 3 years for me was "I can play this game on my old box, so why should I give a damn about the new box?". And only now that the PS3 is dead is the PS4 starting to look like anything other than a glorified PS3 add-on. Consoles live and die by their honest exclusives, if you can play them ANYWHERE else then it's hard to make a case for the console being worth it for that game, save for clearly superior versions like the Gamecube versions of Killer7 and (at the time) RE4. This "ecosystem" bullshit has only been perpetuated in the last few years and all it does is (poorly) mask how anemic these console's libraries are. Then again, we also live in a time where people don't give a shit about buying a console for multiplats so fuck it, if that's where the market is heading then might as well milk it for what it's worth. I mean, people are letting them get away with making boxes that all do the same damn thing but have 5 unique games a piece. How exciting.
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>>383286198
Sure, but MS is easily the worst
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>>383286758
>says halo was long dead before 343
>shows the contrary
>brings up a terrible anology
Halo ODST also outsold 5 and that was only a expansion
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reminder this is the big 3 we deserve. old sega dying and microsoft replacing them is one of the worst things to happened to games.
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>>383284112
>MCC
They're all broken, and you can play every halo game except 5 on a 360. Also
>we brought back all our old games so you could pay for them again! <:^)

>Gears of war 4

Oh great, a fourth title in a series of generic bodybuilder soldiers vs aliens that shouldn't have continued after the first one.

>Killer Instinct

Might have been good if it wasn't both an exclusive, and developed by microsoft.

>Crackdown 3
Oh great, a third title for one of the xbox's worst selling shooters.
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>>383287143
>thinks Im the same person
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>>383287169
>SEGA fucks themselves into bankrupty with repeatedly bad decisions
>Microsoft fucks up one console generation and is still managing to turn a profit
>b...bring back Sega!

If SEGA never left the console industry all their games would still be the shitty sonic games they currently squeeze out onto every system
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>>383287223
>works himself into a argument with a terrible anology
you are not helping your case
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>>383287296

You jumped in half way into a discussion, got completely the wrong idea of the half of it you read, and now you assume I even own an Xbox?

I'll give you a hint, I don't.
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>>383285618
>No fucking splitscreen
That was the final straw.

They can fuck themselves just for that, Halo 5 and MCC were all I wanted for Xbone but its not worth it just for MCC when I still have all the old games. 8th gen is/was fucking awful, far too many rereleases and sequels and the new games sucked far too often, with cut features and less content.
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>>383287346
sega had so many great creative ips during the dreamcast era.
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>>383285830
>Fixed and who the fuck cares for Halo 4

No it isn't, and Halo 4 is better than Halo 3 by a long shot.

>Best gameplay in the series by far, only problem is it campaign.

But it's literally the same fucking game as Gears of War 2 and 3. They didn't change combat at all. The cover system is the same, shooting and weapons handle the same, the only difference is they added different paint colors to the aliens to denote artificial difficulty.

They added NOTHING new except for the shit ass story.
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>>383261480
Why aren't those lined up in chronological release order?
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>>383286197
>>383286092
That's not what the fucking word means, if they're on more than a single platform, regardless of who owns or made it, they're not fucking exclusive, period.

If a game is both on PS3 and PS4 or both Wii U and Switch, it is exclusive to nothing, it its on multiple platforms.
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>>383286623
Wait a fucking minute, Jet Set Radio is BC?
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>>383287623
That is literally what exclusive means.

Exclusive
>excluding or not admitting other things
>restricted to the person, group, or area concerned
>catering for or available to only a few
>not including
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>>383287560
>and Halo 4 is better than Halo 3 by a long shot.
Holy shit, way to destroy any credibility you had in a single fucking sentence.

>But it's literally the same fucking game as Gears of War 2 and 3.
But its not. The fact that you keep calling the locus "aliens" proves you know nothing about the series to begin with.
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>>383286316
Microsoft leaving the pc gaming market entirely to steam was one of their biggest mistakes ever.
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>>383287560
>Halo 4 is better than Halo 3 by a long shot.

Thanks for letting everyone know your opinion is invalid.
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>>383288216

Yep, they should've ran with that shit instead of pushing this needless fifth wheel of theirs.
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>>383287737

Yea and thanks for reminding me to install my arcade cabinet and Comix zone
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>>383287623
k
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>>383288459

ur mums pussy is exclusive to your dad and his black bull
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I give the Xbox One respect for having backward compatibility with a lot Xbox Live/360 games. Buying a PS4 on other hand means you lose everything you bought over PSN.
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>>383289043

>buying new consoles for old games

Okay.
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>>383289870
Xbox BC is necessary because 360 consoles don't last.
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>>383279573
Yeah, just look at what is literally the best desktop OS ever made.

>>383274927
The whole point was to make is easier to share games. They got rid of the family sharing stuff when they stopped being online only, so poorfags couldn't steal games.
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>>383290332

MS probably should've built their console better then.
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>>383289870
If you have larger physical libraries, you would understand. And especially PS3 and Xbox 360 are prone to malfunction.
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>>383290332
PS3 runs on borrowed time too
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When RPCS3 emulation is finally working good in a few years, I hope I can use a PC bluray drive to play my ps3 games, otherwise fuck Sony.
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>>383290429
Yes, they should have
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>>383261480
I ignored the first original xbox, like an idiot, but seeing the 360 at a friend's house was the only thing that made me care about the last gen at all. I think Microsoft just remind me of Sega, and I grew up with Nintendo and Sega. I buy Sony consoles, but I will never like them the way I like Nintendo and, now, Microsoft. I wish Sega would get back in the game. The Dreamcast is still my favorite console of all time.
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>>383290519

m8, I live in an apartment and I'm looking at a bookshelf full of console and handheld games with 4 consoles hooked up in front of me right now, 3 of which are Sony. I'm just about out of space too. What's your point?

>And especially PS3 and Xbox 360 are prone to malfunction.

That the revamps like the PS3 Slim and Xbox 360 S somehow didn't fix? Man, Sony and MS are incompetent as fuck if those launch era issues are still plaguing them that badly. I assumed they fixed that shit.
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>>383290429
Yeah Gen 7 was an embarrassment hardware wise.

All original PS3's are a fat paperweight at this point. Most PS3 slims are dead in the next few years. 360's same as PS3.

Only thing that's gonna last is my Wii, and why play that when I could emulate at higher resolutions on any potato computer I have laying around.
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>>383291397
Microsoft and Sega had a strong cooperation going with the OG Xbox. They should revitalize it.
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>>383287560
>No it isn't, and Halo 4 is better than Halo 3 by a long shot.
No it isn't.

Also is recore any good? Installing it now.
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>>383291531
360 slim is fine
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>>383291531

>tfw your Wii's disc drive began giving out after 7-ish years

Granted, it only happened after I softmodded the thing to play Fatal Frame 4 but it felt bad, man.
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>>383291638
ReCore is great up until the tower. The tower is a blight on what could have been a great callback to action platformers from the PS2
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>>383261576
Backwards compatibility and crossplay?

Savages, how dare they.
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>>383267075
That's rich considering all the shilling to that shitty Crash Bandicoot remake on /v/
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>>383261480
Learn the difference between objective and subjective dumbass
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>WAAAAAAAAAAAAH THE XBOX ONE EXCLUSIVES IS BEING PORTED TO PC WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
literally who cares, you are a fucking retard if you have a gaming rig AND an xbox one
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>>383287737
Catherine is bc? Nice
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>>383292345
They want to establish Xbox as a PC gaming service as a competitor to Steam. In the near future Windows Store won't feature any games, they will move everything to the Xbox app.

That's why Halo 6 is coming to PC, Phil Spencer confirmed that 2 days ago.
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>>383291793
Eh I still have a launch 360 that got RROD in like 2009, sent it in to get fixed, never had a problem since. But I know it's gonna give out. If not the hardware, then my sanity with its slow ass menus and 20gig hard drive.

Xbone backwards compat was the best thing to happen to people who don't throw away their old console games.
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>>383288412
>Arcade Cabinet
anon don't bullshit me

They made that backwards compat too? I'm going to be able to play Goemon and that cute Konami shmup again?
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>>383292345
>Not having both
Must suck to be a poorfag. Sometimes I wanna game at my desk, in my office upstairs, sometimes I wanna game on the couch in the living room. Some friends game exclusively on PC, some exclusively on Xbox. If a platform offers you a free copy of games on another platform, then you should absolutely take advantage of it.
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>>383289870
>>383290429

>arguing against your console being able to play older games
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>>383292345
Go outside porkshit, go get some exercise.
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>>383292940
Fuck me, nvm.

That arcade zone or whatever it was called is never coming back.
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>>383261480
UMP alone is reason enough to tell microsoft to fuck off, never mind all the shit they pulled before xbone launch.

Everything of microsoft's that people hate, is and has always been 97% for their own actions. They can't help trying to be evil. It's so ingrained in the company ethos, that even when they try to put on a friendly face for people, they still give people the impression of a serial killer.
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>>383293109

No, I'm arguing against the notion of a.) buying a new console just because it can play old games instead of having interesting new games and b.) buying consoles with a reputation for high failure rate respectively, and the latter justifying the former really only makes the old console look like a piece of shit that was never worth it to begin with.
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>>383293403

Yea that thing was pretty cool too. They gave up a while ago.
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>>383261480
2013 was a desaster for the Xbox brand but they deserved it. With Philly becoming head of Xbox in 2014 everything became gradually better and better.

>360 bc
>xbox bc
>crossplay
>crossbuy
>nice GwG
>good support
>xbox staff very active and listening on xbox one subreddit
>4k uhd player in 200$ console
>Halo finally getting on pc again
>all halo games bc + free dlc
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>>383293416
What the fuck is wrong with UWP?
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>>383261480
the original xbox wasn't bad, but it kinda came out of nowhere and didn't have that many great games compared to PS2
Xbox 360 was absolute meh: the console, no real worthwhile games, not a blu-ray player, it was a waste of space really, only good for huehues and slavs since it was easy to hack, but then again, there weren't that many cool games for it so no real reason to hack it/buy it at all other than multiplats which everyone already had on PS3
>XOne
total blunder, not a single good game, i can say pretty much the same for PS4 though, so it's no big deal
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>>383293424

It's a nice added bonus if you do enjoy playing classics. I'm tired of hording hardware desu.
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>>383294052

>not a single good game, i can say pretty much the same for PS4 though, so it's no big deal


Way to expose yourself at the end there.
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>>383293624
Game Room, and it still saddens me, I had so many great arcade games on that thing. Konami even teased Sunset Riders but never relased it... damn
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>>383294636
He exposed himself the moment he replied
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>>383294124

Okay, so play them on the 360 and get a PC for the Xbone's games. I don't really see who the Xbone is supposed to be for, it's a console whose very existence I question the necessity of.
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>>383294973
There is little shared value between console and pc gamers. Console gamers play on console because they are used to it, the same with pc gamers.
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>>383294973

I know it's hard for you to imagine but I don't care for playing games using a pc.
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>>383261480

Microsoft bet on the wrong horse multiple times entering this gem:

>bet on Kinect 2.0, failed
>bet on always online and Cloud, failed
>Bet on $500 xbox one + kinect bundle, failed
>bet on TV integration instead of games, failed
>bet on Ryse and Dead Rising 3 as exclusives, failed
>bet on indie exclusive games like Below and Cuphead, failed because none are out four years later
>bet on Rise of Tomb Raider one year exclusivity, failed cause the game didn't sell at all until it reached the PS4
>bet on exclusives like Recore, Dead Rising 4 and Scalebound, failed
>bet on Titanfall 1, game died within a week
>bet on Halo and Gears of War, all failed to set the world on fire

Etc.

They were lucky people liked X360 and that they managed to get third parties releasing games on it, or it would be below Wii U levels.
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>>383295254

A shame then that they turned away a good chunk of their audience with the initial pitch of the console then. More than a few people understandably said "fuck this" and went to PS4 for their shiny new box. Not everyone did, but the Xbox brand took a hell of a hit in 2013. So their stake in the console race currently stands as compromised. Improving, but even that improvement is heavily offset by
>also on Windows 10
and at this point most people who go console tend to veer towards PS4, that's just where the momentum is.
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>>383295816
They also want to reach a larger audience with their games. Phil Spencer himself said that developing exclusives nowadays isn't so lucrative, if it's only on one sytem. Imagine Uncharted 4 being released on PC, it would've sold 10 million at least. Bloodborne at least 6-7 million.
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>>383289870
>buying new consoles for old games
Some of those games are digital only so they're gone forever if there wasn't backward compatibility because the company can kill the servers and support. Thank you, Sony, for killing old games.
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>>383296059

It's not as lucrative directly but it makes the console look better in the long run. Exclusive support is there to give the sensation of "Wanna play this? It's only on our console" and while that is shitty for consumers it's really fucking smart for hardware devs looking to make their mark. Every exclusive a console gets is a potential edge over its competition, and even if their relevance is diminishing compared to yesteryear it's still better than having a redundant set of boxes that do nothing else than the others can't already do. It's funny that you point out those 2 games though because they're on 2 opposite sides of the spectrum with this. You joke about Uncharted but with bundles that shit's already at like 8+ million, while I'm a bit dumbfounded that an exclusive as beloved as Bloodborne isn't doing better with an install base as large as the PS4's. Still a multi-million seller but you'd think it would've done like 6-7 million by now. Maybe it really is a sign of Spencer's sentiments.
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>>383267487
>babby doesn't know how to open a 360 and resolderer a few chipsets
plebian
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>>383294052
So much wrong in one post. Who the are all these people that already had multiplats on the PS3? The PS3 sold like shit compared to the 360 until the very end of its lifecycle
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>>383298258

Only in America.
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>>383298258
>t. 'Muritard living in his own burger-bubble
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>>383299678
So, the only audience that matters anymore?
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>>383288216
It was for the best, games on windows live was the worst shit, somehow managed to be even worse than all other competitors combined, and that's saying something when you're literally worse than ubisoft uplay and ea origin
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>>383261480
They're large, heavy, power hungry, prebuilt consumer PCs with no fun ideas for what games should be.

They're the absolute worst thing to happen to consoles.
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>>383302290
Haha
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>>383265352
And although you have to pay for online, cheating is vastly more difficult, and finding a server not full of chucklefucks is handled for you.
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>>383267108
>lol, why would you want to play a game you already paid for and enjoyed on the same box instead of having three separate consoles sitting under your TV waiting to fail
>Oh! But if you want to play them we'll sell them to you again!
BC really shows what a shit company Sony is. I get not having BC for the PS3, because it had an exotic architecture that they'd have to build hardware to emulate it, but the only reason they're not doing PS2/1 BC is because to do so they'd have to use FOSS emulators, which means they'd have to release the patches to make them work well enough to ship. They don't want to support PCSX2, so instead they're just going to resell you some of your games, or do a shitty remake and sell it to you for $60, instead of putting a little effort forward and contributing to the community so you can play your PS2 classics at 4k.
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>>383305620

Let's also consider the fact that they were basically handed the gen on a platter AND had just gotten burned for stuffing too much backwards compatibility to be price competitive with their last launch. Nintendo was floundering with the WiiU despite BC and Xbone didn't have it at all so why would Sony, under those circumstances, jack up the price of their console by doing the same exact thing that burned them with the PS3? Granted, I hear what you're saying but from Sony's perspective I can understand why they'd be a little reluctant to go down that route again, especially when the competition was just that easy this time around.
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>>383267487
>tfw got a 360 in 2007 and it RRoD'd in 2010 tree literal weeks before the extended warranty expired
Probably the luckiest I've ever felt. The replacement lasted another five or so years, at which point my brother had it and destroyed it because something broke, so I have no idea if it was actually broke or not.
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I see my thread is still going. Nothing pisses you faggots more than seeing Xbox get praise huh
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>>383268638
LOL
The PS3 literally did not have vibration feedback for years after release you incompetent sonybro.
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>>383261480
xbox brought all the normies and xbox360 went all the way of the dudebros. good thing is, they all grew up and dont play videogames anymore. xbox one is a commercial failure.

games and gaming went better since the dying of xbox
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>>383283870
>Sony still wins with a total of over 6000 games
>over 6000 is more than 19679
L2math sonybot.
>>
I'm always loath to say that anything single thing is "the cancer killing video games," but if there is, it's Microsoft entering the console manufacturing business. Microsoft's foray into console gaming, and the practices it brought with it, are truly indefensible.
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>>383293078
My nigga
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>>383307682

What did dude bros play before xbox?
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>>383310395
This dude is full of shit. Dudebros played on the PS1, dudebros played on the PS2, and then they moved to the 360. PS2 had so many socom/madden faggots playing it, but revisionist sony ponies like to ignore this.
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>>383310535
ps1 and ps2 had different and more experimental games then the xbox360/ps3 era, dudebro.
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>>383310770
That doesn't change shit. Dudebros STILL played on them. Who do you think was playing Socom and THPS?
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>>383310770

Give 11 examples
>>
All my brothers dude bro chad friends had ps2s but later in the gen jumped on xbox bandwagon
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>>383268638
trying this hard to cover sony's mistakes
these sony ggers/neogafers are really cucks
>no other option
lol
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>>383272485
we don't talk like that
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>>383277263
it's classified by color
remember the first xbox is dark green, not black
so green, black, white in OP's pic
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>>383306841
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
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