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The Metal Gear franchise turned 30 today. Which game in the

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The Metal Gear franchise turned 30 today.

Which game in the series is your favorite?
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>>383247981
V without a doubt.

Played it again yesterday and remembered how near-perfect the gameplay is
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Peace Walker
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Snake Eater. It's probably the game that has the best story/gameplay balance in the franchise.
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>MFW Konami doesn't do jack shit on the 13th to celebrate this milestone
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It is NOT 30
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First one and V
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V or revengence.
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2 and 3
they're on the same level for me
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>>383249292
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>>383247981
Definitely V

>>383248767
underrated post
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>>383247981
I dunno if it's my favorite game because the lack of content, but that intial hour of Ground Zeroes is my favorite moment of the whole series. It probably is my favorite game, just cause that moment is the entire game.

Also, that MGS1 costume.
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>MGS3

The geopolitical bullshit story, gameplay, characters, humor, pacing. It all fits so perfectly.
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>>383248767
>>383249305
>>383249368

I get how you guys can like V (the gameplay and level of control is pretty fantastic), but no idea how it can top most of the other games for you.

Do you not care about the corpse of a story mode or the repeated content everywhere?
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>>383247981
5>2>1>>>>>>>>>>>revolution 60>>>>>>>>3
(i have the original release not the "oh we completely fucked up the game insanely bad god damn it fuck re release the game now with fixed camera" version
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>>383250008
This helped me to appreciate the game more. It goes really in depth.

https://youtu.be/EA4uan90HeA?t=3
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>>383250008
>Muh cinematics

dude, there's tons of stuff to fuck with in V
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MGS2
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>>383250008
Kaz's story was the best part about V. It was well done, fleshed out and felt realistic. It's a shame they didn't expand that to the other characters.
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>>383247981
Sons of Liberty
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>Kaz isn't really a raging racist

Honestly this was the worst disappointment in V
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The first. 2 was good too but Raiden was very jarring at first. 3 was just Kojima caving to all the complaints about Raiden and making an OC donut steal gary stu out of Solid, along with a mary sue mentor and final boss.

MGS ended at 2, everything after is trash.
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>>383247981
2 easily. and not just because of the philo101 stuff. I feel it nails the paranoid industrial-military vibe the best, and the bet balance between [pseudo-science to justify shit] and [IT JUST FUCKING WORKS] to keep you off-balance
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MGS3, it wasn't even the one I started on, I just love the jungle sneaking compared to urban sneaking of MGS1 and 2, I also liked a lot of PO for this reason as well.

my subjective rating of them goes as:

MGS3 > MGS2 > MGS > MGS4 > MGS5

MGS PO > MGS ACID 2> Ghost Babel > MGS ACID > MGS PW

MGO 2 > MGO > MGO 3
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>>383250649
Oh man those rumors were fucking hilarious, I honestly half expected Kojima to have something like that in the game.
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>>383247981
Snake Eater
It's just the best in my opinion
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>>383247981
i only played 5 (not to completion)
It was ok but I had to skip every cutscene
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MGS1. plot, bosses, atmosphere, soundtrack, codec screen, all perfect. It's the only MG title I consistently replay every year.
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>>383247981
2, 3 and V are my holy trinity for different reasons.
PO and 4 are in my shit list.
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MGS is the most overrated game ever on /v/ and this is a board that shitposts about nintendo all day
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V is real 2401
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V > III > I = II / haven't played 4.

They were all great fucking games though.
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>>383249932
What a thrill
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There's an unusually high amount of people saying V in this thread.
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>>383254340
The memesters were wrong again what a surprise
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>>383254206
2 is way better than 3
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>>383254404
nah
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MGS1
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>>383247981
a three way tie between MGS1, MGS2 and MGS3.

actually i love nearly every game in the series (expect PW and MGSV)
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MGS4, I wish they kept the stress and war systems; helping the rebels in order to reduce the amount of eyes to worry about and create future distractions was great, would have made the world in 5 feel less empty.
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>>383254340
Mechanically, V is a really nice game. It's only people who get really into the lore that dislike it.
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>>383250362
But Quiet isn't in Peace Walker...
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I like some parts of metal gear just not all the parts
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Groumd Zeros is objectively the best Metal Gear game.
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1=2=3=4=V>PW
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>>383255028
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>>383254340
Nu-/v/ has taken over and they grew up with shitty open world Ubisoft garbage. Wow, attacking a generic outpost filled with three little cottages around a dirt road guarded by brain dead AI easily defeated by tranqs. BUT LOOK AT ALL THE LE WACKY STUNTS YOU CAN DO.
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>>383257184
No, V is better because of how it sets itself apart from Ubi garbage.

Just do FOB if you need a challange
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Just can't beat that last quarter or so of the game having some of the most immersive writing and world building in the medium.
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>>383257640
>world-building

umm
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>>383257640
I fucking hated this game when I played it but I have since come to really appreciate some of the themes in it
I think I hated it because I was 16 and didn't really get the messages it was trying to convey
And also because of that time I got fucked up on my directions and went all the way around the Big Shell to the left instead of just one section to the right
Maybe I should replay it, see if I still hate it
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MGS1
even though it has pretty shit gameplay I love how perfectly it marries the insane with the practical, the pacing of the plot and the characters
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>>383247981
;)
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>>383257640
>the game literally starts telling you to turn off the console
>immersive
>worldbuilding
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>>383257632
You can beat most FOBs by spamming smoke grenades and bellycrawling around.

V has this ridiculous problem where it gives you a bunch of options but the most effective playstyle is also the most boring one, i.e. tranq headshots and utility grenade spam.
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>>383258810
there is no most effective playstyle though, and good luck using smoke grenades on FOBs with NVG lol.
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>>383258553
Are you trying to summon him to the first even kinda comfy MGS thread I've seen here in months
We all love laughing at a Caramel thread but let's just have one that's not drowning autism
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>>383258810
My FOB tactic is to take the gun I made back when the customization glitch was still around that fires grenade launcher rounds as silenced sniper bullets
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>>383257640
>A funny thing happened to me on the way to work on thursday. I was driving and a giant orange ball appeared in the east. It kept rising and getting bigger until it blocked my view. I passed out and then woke up at home. Can you explain that?
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>>383248767
>>383248971
>>383249038
One of those three.

MGS3 was the perfect classic MGS. PW pushed the boundaries of what could be done in a handheld game, and may just be the best handheld game ever made. And V because it remains the most memorable of the franchise, for its trailers, its hype, some of its missions that were just perfect, despite a story that just wasn't there. It was supposed to bridge the gap between the Big Boss and Solid Snake storylines, but it left an even bigger hole instead that I'm struggling to fill up, and that I have to live with.

Clearly Big Boss > Solid Snake.
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>>383258553
Don't try to convince the non-believers. Their heads are so far up their asses they cant see anything.
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>>383260034
This guy looks like he spends more time posing for photographs than he does working on his surgery.
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>>383259684
Kawanishi-Noseguchi, Kinunobebashi, Takiyama, Uguisunomori, Tsuzumigataki,
Tada, Hirano, Ichinotorii, Uneno, Yamashita, Sasabe, Kofudai, Tokiwadai,
Myoukenguch
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>>383247981
My top 3 MGS games are 3, 1 and PO.
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>>383259867
>Big Boss > Solid Snake.
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Mgs1. It literally changed video games forever.
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>>383260387
Wow that is some terrible artwork. Gross.
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>>383247981
Rising Revengeance
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>>383259867
>it left an even bigger hole instead that I'm struggling to fill up, and that I have to live with.
jesus christ, is /v/ really so full of brainlets that even the people who like the game only like it by falsely attributing the game's merit to "duuuh the game gave me a phantom pain kojimmers does it again duuuhhh." i fucking love phantom pain, and the only area i think the game suffers is gameplay, but you guys have to really up your analysis.

>>383260034
post my canavero greentext, caramel. i know you still have it.
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>>383248767
>>383250008

I still consider 3 to be up top, but I like V about the same if not more.

The story is meh, and yeah the rinse and repeat side ops where meh, but FOBs where fun.

Though I loved the "Just drop in and gather shit" Missions later on, which they had an
option to just do stuff bare bones, or osp.

Have V on pc, w/ OSP Mod, make the game soooo much fun.
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>>383260034
Dude, I get that you believe what you believe and all that
And to be honest I hope you're right, I want nothing more than for Kojima to have the ability and balls to pull that off
But your attitude about it is so fucking annoying, you legitimately sound like an evangelical asshole
Just.. try and not be a dick
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>>383260858
>none of canavero's head transplant papers were peer reviewed
>no real practicing doctor is taking him seriously
>looks exactly like doctor in TPP
>tedx takes place in cyprus
>hospital you wake up in is in cyprus
>canavero has several bananas lying around in his talk
>breaks one in half to explain what he will do to the neck of his patient
>kojima leaves bananas all around his kojipro update videos
>keeps tweeting bananas split in half
>canavero's technique is called HEAVEN
>canavero opened his tedx talk to forever young
>pic related
>canavero says it will take months of VR training to get used to new body
>kojima puts unrealistic goal (disarmament) that people know they can achieve but not if kojima balances in favour of owning nukes forcing players to continue playing
>this on top of the obvious ford ad campaign tie ins
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>>383260593
You must be blind to call Noriyoshi Ohrai's art "gross".
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>>383261645
so caramel, what does cooking with bill have to do with kojima? how will zygote be related to DS?
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>>383262905
Doesn't matter who it's by
While technically very skillful the design and direction behind the art is awful

Not that guy btw
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>>383258810
>V has this ridiculous problem where it gives you a bunch of options but the most effective playstyle is also the most boring one, i.e. tranq headshots and utility grenade spam.
This can be pretty fun if you're into roleplaying and don't live a life as interesting as James Bond.
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>>383263797
What would have you done in his place?
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>>383263797
Just here to say that I also felt the composition was a bit funky, like the dude tried for 80s action film but didn't quite get it right.

The PO one looks alright though, the way the image is bisected by Boss and the lady in the middle ties everything together. The others just look like random scenes mashed together with no regards for the focal points of the pieces.
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>>383260858
The only brainlet I'mseeing here is the one thinking the phantom pain adds to the game's merit.

Read again, and try to understand the words this time.
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>>383247981
mgs2 and 1 are the best
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>>383264281
Doesn't matter, I'm not an artist, my skills at design shouldn't be called into question and rightfully so because they're probably terrible
But honestly my problems are with the stupid boobs and the mess of lines that is her hip region, fix that and I'd love it
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>>383264872
>>383264281
Sorry, thought you were replying to the guy saying the art of marina was shit
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MGS2
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>>383264281
I'm not sure, I'm not all that good at art but you don't have to be to tell if something is well composed for not
What I do know is that I would have had the central points of the games be focused towards the centre and given characters focus and real estate based on their importance to the story instead of apparently arbitrarily
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>>383247981
I like all. No use in ranking them.
V was the most fun playing.
2 had the best themes and story.
3 was the best adventure.
1 i love for nostalgia vibes.
4 is the best movie/best cut scenes.
PW has great Co Op and is fun to play.
MG2 is a good blue print for what MGS1 became later.
GZ is a little thin but it has great weather effects.
MG1 i never played.
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>>383257640
Also has by far the best level design, interesting bosses and really clever use of mechanics
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>>383264616
wrong
>gameplay
3>V>4>2>PW>1
>story
V>2>1>3>PW>4

>>383264483
sorry, the point i was trying to make was that anyone who brings up "muh phantom pain" is an ignoramus. TPP is so rich in truth while being filled to the brim with lies, the fact that all anyone focuses on is the feeling of emptiness they feel because it wasn't what they wanted is a damn shame. all will be revealed in time
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>>383249124
They didn't do anything for castlevania's 30th anniversary either, not even releasing the RoB pachinko the same day or something, they new CEO despises videogames and gamers actively
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>you are now aware that Hideo Kojima created Metal Gear at the age of 23
>you are now aware that you are older than Kojima was when he first reached success
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>>383265267
and PO?
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>>383265385
>gameplay
>3>V>4>2
You are so wrong

4 > 2 > 3 > V, objectively. The only advantage 3 and 5 have over 2 is quality of life stuff, which 4 has in spades while also retaining the superior, ultra-tight level design of 2 and great use of actual stealth mechanics, whereas in 3 for example you can literally just run across pretty much every screen in the game.
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>>383265571
Mike Oldfield made Tubular Bells when he was like 19.

I've already accepted that people from a few generations ago are just better and more talented for whatever reason.
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>>383265571
Not for two more years motherfucker

>Mozart was 5 when he first wrote musical compositions
We should all just die
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>>383247981
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>>383265702
Finished PO 3 times. I hated PW when it came out because it contradicted the events from PO. BB in PO was like "I'm not gonna live my life the way the Boss did". And PW he's all crying "muh Boss what would she have done". But i can to terms with it because PW story is just that much more fun. I'm trying not to think about PO these days. Controls are also an issue. Haven't played it since 2007.
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>>383266124
I was just about to mention Mozart.

Has anyone ever checked to see if he had high functioning autism or something? Like the kind that makes people super smart.

How many other 5 years olds in history were able to create musical masterpieces, let alone understand music enough to achieve that?
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>>383265850
They didn't shitpost their lives away and also had normal testosterone levels and dopamine receptors in their brains, this is also why trannies were more or less unheard of (tranny = given up, metaphorical suicide (woman = object, inert, man = agent, subject))
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>comparing kojima to mozart
end yourselves please
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>>383265850
it's selection bias. you only hear about people who are successful, most people aren't

>>383266467
back to /pol/ please
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Reminder there are casuals out there who will actually defend MGSV.
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>>383266353
how many five year olds in history were taught music at the same pace they were taught language?
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3>2>V>1>PW>4
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>>383266947
>casuals will defend a game that you actually have to play instead of 3 hour long interactive movies
yeah imagine that
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Loved Solid but the gameplay in V is sex. I also enjoyed MGS2. Never finished 3 because my controller broke.
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>>383267185
But MGS2 has better gameplay than any of the other games except 4.
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MG2 was a milestone.

MGS1 had the best bosses.

MGS2 had the best plot and subtext.

MGS3 was the most well-rounded one.
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>>383267587
you're delusional
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>>383267587
Too bad the camera makes it unplayable
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>>383266353
This >>383266947
It's also worth remembering that the first 3-5 years in a child's life have astoundingly dramatic effects on how their brains grow, Mozart had music shoved into his brain every day since the day he was born and his tutelage in it started the moment he was old enough to understand that people can communicate with each other
There's probably a very good reason he never had many friends or interest in anything other than music, probably the same reason he died alone
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>>383247981
none of them
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>>383267786
Oops, that second quote was meant to be >>383266996
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HIGH IQ
2 5
MID IQ
1 4
LOW IQ
3 PW
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>>383259867
Portable Ops was satisfying enough to be the link between MGS3 and MG onwards.

They just ignored it to flesh Big Boss out more.
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>>383267621
MGS2 had lots of subtext, but pales in comparison to the amount in MGS4. MGS2 just has more timeless messages and themes, paired with exquisite gameplay, plot and the most artistic premise for a game.
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>>383268043
You are drunk anon, go home.
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>>383267668
Gameplay is more than just quality of life and amount of guns, MGS2 has some of the best level and AI design in the series and great use of mechanics (here also part of the post-modern hyperreality themes) such as view changes in the Fat Man "arc".
>>383267731
That is part of what makes the level design so effective.
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>>383268043
>5
>High IQ

You're on the wrong side of the bell curve yourself, eh?
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1st one beacuse it's only MGS i have
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>>383247981
only played 1 up until gray fox but I dropped it because it wasn't really a stealth game
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>>383247981
I only played the opening of twin snakes and V so I'll go with V
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>>383268283
It'a Tactical Espionage Action anon, did you even look at the title?
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>>383268256
>>383268191
Low IQ males need not respond
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>>383247981
I love 1, 2, and 3 but if i had to choose i'd pick 3.
My least favorite is PO and PW.
4, 5, and the two MG games are ok.

3>2>1>power gap>5>4>power gap>MG2>MG1>power gap>PW>PO
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>>383254340
It's on sale for $10 on the 360 right now maybe that's why
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>>383268531
Then why are you still posting?
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The phantom doot and Snake eater were the best 5 was near damn perfect except the ending
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>>383254395
>I-it's just to celebrate the 2 year anniversary g-guys
>it's not a sequel, we swear!
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>>383259867
>big boss>solid snake

No

big boss is still a goat tier character
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I dreamed I was Huey last night.
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>>383268062
But what about Venom anon?
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Venom Snake > Big Boss
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>>383269981
But Venom IS Big Boss
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>>383269409
Why did Huey always looks so...sweaty in this game?
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>>383269758
Actually I might have been Strangelove, I'm not sure.
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>>383270074
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>>383270098
No one tell him.
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>>383270392
"I'm Big Boss and You're Big Boss too"
-Big Boss in a tape left for Big Boss to listen to
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3 > 4 > 1 > 2 > PW > V
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>>383270582
>>383270392
>>383270356
>>383270257
>>383270102
search for Last Day in Outer Heaven and cry
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>>383270392
It's symbolism, as a fan of mgs, you should know what it means.
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>>383247981
It was 3 for the longest time but I've become very fond of 2 in recent years. I think V retroactively destroyed any interest I had in the Big Boss saga.
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>>383270937
Fanfiction trash.
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>>383268062
>not by Kojima

Though PO, PW and TPP are pretty much the same game, remade everytime better.
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>>383268256
We're all posting on /v/. Which end do you think that puts us on?
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>>383272182
Wasn't /v/ pretty low on that one scale of average IQ per board?

We're all dummies here. The smart people are all in /lit/.
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>>383272182
Does it count if you're smart but wish you were dumb
Seriously, idiots have way higher quality of life on average
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>>383260034
You fucking stupid faggot.
You already spent your shot and played your cards. I have everything capped.
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>>383270937
This is the only thing that made me like Quiet.
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>>383269887
Venom was just an optional added at the last minute.
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>>383270102
Guiltiness.
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>>383255847
it's actually the pinnacle of stealth kino imo. The gameplay and how it ties in with the story is top notch.
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>>383260557
For the worst
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>>383260034
>Fucking Caramel
Mate nobody believes your lies anymore.
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>>383260034
When you gonna live stream your suicide caramel?
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Reminder that Caramel is actually Kojima come to laugh at us one more time.
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I have a soft spot in my heart for 4 because of the final Ocelot fight, and the tunnel Snake goes through and gets cooked. Plus the graphics and gameplay are still impressive even today, nearly 10 years later.
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MGS3>MGS>MGS2>MG2:SS>PW>MGSV>MGS4>MG

Honestly, they're all pretty good. Metal Gear is one of my favorite franchises
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>>383277242
>and the tunnel snake goes through
>tunnel snake
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
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>>383247981
OP is a retard, MG was released on July 13.
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>>383277242
4's story is the great despite certain inconsistencies it opens up in the larger canon
That's why I don't even play it anymore when I do a replay of the series, I just watch all the cutscenes

Snake, snake had a hard life
I felt it
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>>383247981
MGS3 is the only one I might want to replay. Haven't played MGSV.
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>>383277579
does that mean i can get excited for possible ruse news for the next week
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Big Boss is a fucking pussy.
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>>383247981
MGS3 > MGS1 > MGS2 > MGS:PW > MGS4 > MGS:AC!D 2 > MGSV > MGS:AC!D

I like most of them for different reasons though. MGSV makes me feel sad though.
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>>383278670
They're not going to do a thing. Konami are petty enough to ignore it completely, or we will get some sort of shitty FOB reward.
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>>383247981
MGS1

I love everything about it
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>>383269981
Venom Snake was easy mode. When you compare his feats to Solid Snake or Raiden, he was practically living on easy street. If Solid Snake is "The Man Who Makes the Impossible Possible", Venom Snake is "The Man Who Makes the More or Less Implausible Comparatively More Plausible".
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>>383247981
3, folowed close by 1 then V then PW
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I've only played 4 and 5, both definitely rank up among my favourite games even though V had some shortcomings. Should I play the others, and does it matter in which order?
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same as kojima
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>>383280087
he is just talking chronology, dingus
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>>383280293
chronological order is the same as the ranking
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>>383280293
so?
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>>383280087
The chronology of this series is stupid.

>MGS3 > MGSPW > MGSV > MG > MG2 > MGS > MGS2 > MGS4

What kind of story needs THREE prequels?
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>>383247981
2 but 3 is on the same level. Gameplay alone makes V one of the best as well
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3 is reddit
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>>383280603
A bloated one.

I honestly don't know why pople even care about the story. One of the best things about 3 was that it had no sequel baggage.
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>>383280603
The Big Boss trilogy is more interesting than the Solid Snake trilogy
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>>383247981
I think Im the only person who likes four the most
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>>383247981
Reveangence t b h. If you're not counting spinoffs then I like 3 the best.
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MGS was cool thematically as well.

>game starts with Snake just being an avatar of the player
>everything he says and does is just an extension of that
>eventually, he starts to change
>by the end, he's no longer just an avatar of the player, even rejecting the player's command at one point
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>>383285250
no good, i cant do it
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>>383247981
before 1=3>>>2>PW>>>>>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5

now
1=2=3>>>PW>>>>>>>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5
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>>383277359
Go back to Vault 101, Butch. War is dangerous and never changes.
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>>383272558
Both IQ charts show that /tv/ and /pol/ are smarter than /v/.
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>>383288382
>war never changes
you came into the wrong thread, nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRyzkoJwo4
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>>383289637
The other one.
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>>383285683
I think the part that really stood out to me was that near the end, he started to reject the treatment of war and death as some kinda game, a sharp contrast to his blase attitude towards it earlier.
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>>383289815
Dude, that anon was parodying Fallout with the other anon who mentioned the Tunnel Snakes.
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>>383285250
Compare to Big Boss who, under the player's control, has no choice but to kill the Boss. The player cannot go against the game and Big Boss can't go against the player. If it were Snake in the same position, he wouldn't have gone through with it. That's where the difference between them lies.
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>>383247981
MGS2 or 3. Cant decide, been switching between the two since I first played them a few years ago.
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>>383291227
i was the anon who mentioned tunnel snakes. your attempt to calm down any situation was futile, for i was the agitator and the offended parties.
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>mfw people like V more than MGS1
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MGS3=MGS1>MGS Peace Walker>MGSV>MGS4>MGS2

Even though I put the games in order from best to worst I still think that MGS2 is still a great game, its just the worst in the series IMO also MGO2 was the best multiplayer experience I've ever had, R.I.P
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>>383291981
Big Boss didn't have a choice. His legend was already written, and trying to change it would have created a time paradox.
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>>383285250
>by the end, he's no longer just an avatar of the player, even rejecting the player's command at one point

Remind me of which part you're talking about, its been awhile since I last played MGS1
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>>383260034
you have no cards left to play except the livestream of your suicide.

please don't leave that incomplete like MGSV
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>>383293660
See >>383285683
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>>383248971
PW is the worst of the series.
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Story:
MGS4 > MGS 2 > MGS 1 > MGS 3 > Phantom Pain

Gameplay:
MGS3 > Phantom Pain > MGS 2 > MGS 1 > MGS 4
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>>383294219
>4 has best story
now i know that this is bait
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MGS3

MGS1 has too many bad memories, like having to get my step-brother help me beat Sniper Wolf because I was a faggot who couldn't do it
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>>383294374
War has changed.
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>>383247981

Spent the most time with 2 and its VR missions, enjoyed its gameplay the most. I enjoyed 3's gameplay as well as the story and setting so I guess it's a tie between 2 and 3.
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I wasn't there at the time.

Was the reveal that MGS2 was actually about Raiden after the Snake intro actually that much of a rage moment for fans?
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>>383294374
>implying you didn't cry like a bitch

we all did, anon
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>>383247981
Solid 1 and Solid 3
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>>383293790
Guessing thats what he says but I can't remember the context, care to elaborate?
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>>383294770

What do you think?
The butthurt V caused was nothing against this. There just were no good platforms for people to whine on as much as they did with V
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>>383295023
But was it really a secret until the last minute? That seems like the type of thing people would know a year before release
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MGS3, definitely. I loved 4 as well, but honestly I keep going back to 3 because of the story, boss fights, etc. Fucking love Big Boss.
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>>383249472
Fuck yes!
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>>383295078
>that picture
>and now, from a legendary industry veteran, sony's final game at the conference,
spiderman!
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No love for Revengence?
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>>383295078

>That seems like the type of thing people would know a year before release
It was a different time. If the devs wanted it to be secret, it was a secret. The trailers also outright lied to you more or less and showed Snake in a scene that would show Raiden in the game.
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>>383247981
do they have mgs3 for ps4? very important info that I need indeed
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V > 2 > 3 > MG2 > PW > 4 > 1 > MG
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>>383294770
It wasn't the same. The internet wasn't the same either.

People just read about it in the magazines and assumed the magazines were wrong. The hype wasn't the same either. Plus those were different times, people were happy they had a game at all, they wouldn't really whine about it, and then the character swap was different, and well executed, while in V, it's not really the issue, the issue is we knew before because we wouldn't fall for the same trick twice, and then the story was disappointed and not well executed.
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>>383295416
I kinda like it, but it gets too much undeserved praise.
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>>383295416
Too bad anon, it looks like this is the thread of MGS2 fans.
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>>383247981
1 > V > 3 > 2 > PW > 4
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In MGS1, Snake always made the fight between him and Grey Fox in a minefield sound awesome

Then I played MG2 and it was fucking ass
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>>383295967
This but swap 2 and PW
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3>2>>1>>>4>>5>>>>>>>PW

I could have put 2 in first but I enjoyed 3 more the first time playing it. 1 is still great but just not as good as 2+3. 4 could have been amazing if they just put in more actual gameplay. 5 has a great core gameplay but it gets repetitive, there aren't really any boss fights besides the very end, the story sucks, and it's all outdoors. PW basically introduced everything wrong with 5.
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>All these kids putting V on #1
Glad this series is dead
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>>383296480
Get Alzheimer's and die already gramps
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>>383294770
The original release didn't even let you choose what part of the game you played for the first playthrough, it just asked you (using Rose's voice) if you already played MGS1.

Yes = Tanker-Plant.
No = Plant, with the option of playing the Tanker section later in the game when Snake talks you about it.

Amazing to think newcomers of the series just started with Raiden and didn't probably know what the fuck was going on and why they weren't doing the Tanker stuff featured in trailers and screenshots.
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>>383265385
V = best story
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>>383297040
What the hell Kojima you fucking psychopath
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>>383297040
It's genius too, because you don't know Pliskin is Solid Snake.
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>>383247981
V, 3, 4 , 1 , 2
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>>383297827
>Pliskin is Solid Snake
This meme again. It's _NOT_ the same person.
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>>383298013
I'll kill you, I swear to god
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>>383298013

laboured meme
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>>383298013
The original Solid Snake died on that Tanker
Pliskin later stole his identity and pretended to be Solid Snake. He grew old and world weary, but never stopped pretending to be Snake.
It's kind of like how Venom is Big Boss.
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>>383298236
no
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>>383298236
mother of facepalms...
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>>383298236
Kojima pls
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