>2017 >Graphics still not as good as toy Story How much

>>383206498
what are you on about ? graphics surpassed toy story when this gen of consoles got released

>>383206498
>GIVE US 60FPS YOU INCOMPETENT DEVS!
>ALSO GIVE US GRAPHICS ON THE LEVEL OF A PIXAR MOVIE IN WHICH EVERY FRAME TAKES 20 HOURS TO RENDER!

gamers are retarded

>>383206660
no they didnt, post a game screen that has better models, lightning shading than OP's pic

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>>383208083
Toy Story 2 was EIGHTEEN YEARS AGO, you really think that technology hasn't gotten better since?

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>>383209206


That's TS2. The question was always when are games going to look as good as Toy Story, not Toy Story 2.

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>>383209206
uncharted 4

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>>383209538
I mean seriously, what were these monstrosities?

>>383209497
You know how hard it is to render in real time?

>>383209613
It does look good, but it's all pre-baked so it doesn't count.

>>383210713
t. idiot

>>383210713
It's also a bullshot.

>>383206498
games already look better than toy story

>>383209613
>prebaked bull-shot
>gameplay graphics

>Pixar animations take upwards of thousands of hours to render
>"Hurr durr why can't muh PEECEE do the same level of rendering on the fly as a fucking supercomputer over periods of weeks"

It's not that hard to fathom OP

>>383211097
yet nobody ever posts them

>>383211408
You realize that supercomputers from 20 years ago are smartphone tier nowadays right

>there will be an HD re-release of Toy story in our lifetime

>>383211612
I wonder if they'll ever remake toy story 1 and 2 with better graphics

>>383211592
>muh iphone 9 has 3,000 CPUs to render ray tracing

You realize you're fucking retarded right

>>383211592
Hue

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>>383206498
We are a level beyond Toy Story 1 now.

The lighting and astronomical poly counts is why it won't happen any time soon. We can cheat and make games look really good, almost as good, but they won't be as versatile or scalable as the tech used to render even these older films.

>>383211945
>I don't understand how technology advancement works

>>383206498
They didn't even have ambient occlusion back then

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>>383212228
>I think technology is magic

>>383210713
and what toy story isn't pre-baked ? what's your point ?

>>383212543
The point is that comparing pre-rendering to pre-rendering is dumb.

Now i want to rewatch Toy Story, thanks OP.

>>383209497
>its SKATE. or die.

>>383212391
Having more more and larger registers, a larger APU, and a larger bus is effectively the same as having more CPUs.

>>383209624
has a really bad uncanny valley effect

makes me uncomfortable

>>383209538
>>383209624
>>383212863
This was impressive for when it came out

>>383212863
>uncanny valley
I don't think you know what that means

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>>383212863
The whole movie was pretty uncomfortable.

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>>383206498
OP BTFO by about 15 years

>>383206498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ4HoPLwrI0
we're already there OP

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>>383212974
>humans also have doll heads

2/10 made me respond

>>383206498
The best you can hope for is that devs use smarter shaders and lighting engines. You can't expect shit like that on raw polygon power.

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>>383209624
>Toy Story is starting to look dated

Oh fuck it's happening isn't it...I'm getting old.

>>383213170
toy story has always looked that bad, you were just 4 when you first saw it.

>>383213243
Again, it was good when it came out.

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>>383209206
Just took this screenshot from the witcher 3, max settings, no mods. Not only does it look better but the mesh density destroys any Toy Story scene that was rendered.

>>383213030
>HQ wooden planks
>blurry metal siding
>basic modeled rocket with no texture
>ears are too smoothed
>HQ shrubs and grass
>flat LQ grass

they did the best with what they could, but damn it really hasn't aged well

>>383213263
a lot of people here seem to forget that it came out in 1995

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>>383209538
>>383209624
you laugh but these toy story animations were fucking amazing at the time
they're still so surreal and uncanny valley

>>383212034
that looks nice and all but it's still easy to see corners on rounded objects, ratchet's fur looks like the same blurry shit vidya has used since forever, and the lighting is really basic while trying to cover it up with FUCKING BLOOM.

>>383212391
>The iPhone 6 uses an Apple-designed 64 bit Cortex A8 ARM architecture composed of approximately 1.6 billion transistors. It operates at 1.4 GHZ and can process instructions at a rate of approximately 1.2 instructions every cycle in each of its 2 cores. That’s3.36 billion instructions per second. Put simply, the iPhone 6’s clock is32,600 times faster than the best Apollo era computers and could perform instructions120,000,000 times faster
Woah it's almost like Moore's law is an actual thing that's not magic

>>383213263
It impressed normies but people with taste, even back then, saw the human models as ugly.

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in a few more years, games might look this good

>>383213243

>4 year olds are now seeing movies today with amazing graphics
>Someday that too will look outdated

I'm scared hold me

>>383212974
Have you SEEN sid's dog lately? I almost couldn't believe that it was the dog from the movie.

>>383213548
Compared to what

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>>383209538
>>383209624
>>383213030
>>383213125
>disturbing and unsettling animation like this is gone for ever
it was better than MUH REALISM

>>383213568
SURE IS A HARRY FELLA

>>383213730
Those eyes are the most uncanny part

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>>383213584
... To real life? To all the art that came before? Just because it's 3D didn't magically excuse (to people w/taste)

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>>383206498
?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE43WEZtYcM

>In a film you can control the precisely where the camera is looking and the angle it's looking from
>In a video game you cannot do that, instead you have to create an engine that interprets all that for you and presents it in a readable manner

>>383213852
Everything had to start off shitty at one point. If the incredibles came out 10 years earlier than it did it would have looked just like toy story.

>>383214003
What's your point exactly? It looked bad but that didn't stop people from trying.

>>383213730
I don't know, cgi mixed with live action still makes me feel unpleasant
just give me a faggot in a suit, it's better than cgi

>>383213852
compared to other cgi human characters at the time you dolt. no shit they looked bad compared to real life or 2d art.

>>383213532
Yet we still can't put a man on Mars.
Checkmate moon landing fags

>>383213874
>being inspired by toystory means it looks as good as toy story

>>383206498
40 years.

>>383213532

Too bad programmers are spoiled now and don't know how to optimize anymore, when I was in college I was forced to work with slow ass microprocessors and even buid a RAM with transistors. We could do so much more right now.

>>383209613
cool, now if it ran at more than 2fps it would be impressive

If you watch toy story on bluray you can see the t rex has N64 textures

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>>383206498
>>383211409
>>383208083
Here you go ya gits

>>383214804
thanks for sharing

>>383212817
do you have the pic?

>captcha: football
>select a mexican and it works

>>383214407
And being king of CG in 1995 still didn't mean much to people with taste. Are we done? Do you want to read the reply chain? I'm not talking about soccer moms buying tickets, we obviously know they swallowed it. Don't reply to me.

>>383215169
>didn't mean much to people with taste.
Those with autism count as 'people'?

>>383213509
still looks better than toy story to me

>>383215321
Skilled artists are why games and movies don't still like this. Show respect.

You just need a simple game.

First person view chess game would do the job

>>383214107
you dont necessarily compare 3d rendering to real life. many people thought skyrim was the pinnacle of realistic 3d graphics when it came out

>>383215169
you think you're smart for arguing that toy story looked lacking compared to real life. somehow i don't think you have the brain capacity to understand why someone might call you an idiot.

>>383213292
jaggies everywhere

>>383211840
They don't even need to remake them. Just update the models.

>>383213292
>jaggies
>copy pasted trees
> generic, ugly textures and models
>brown shit shaders
I hope this is bait

>>383212186
>toy story "tech" and older cg
>versatile
>scalable

nigger are you retarded? you know why they made the movie about toys? because you can't fucking render anything else with a blinn-phong or diffuse shader (pretty much all they had at the time) and not have it look fucking awful EXCEPT plastic. also the raytracing it they used to render toy story STILL takes too long for games.

game tech MUST be more versatile and scalable by the nature that it has to run in REAL TIME and still look good. you can't take 30 minutes to render one fucking frame at a time like a movie.

>>383218001
>copy pasted trees
>I'm a literal mongoloid who doesn't even know what speedtree is

>>383209624
splatoon's pearl is that you?

>>383213852
>posting tumblr's red nose

>>383215480
>Skilled artists are why games and movies don't still like this
speak english, fucktard. 3d artists are artists, but theyre working with limited hardware and usually are subject to someone else's creative direction if they have any kind of budget. presenting it in an interactive manner is much more difficult than anything static, prerendered, or prebaked

>>383218791
>you can't take 30 minutes to render one fucking frame at a time
tell that to dobson

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>>383209206
k

>>383220236
lol

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>>383209624
>>383212863
>>383213730
WHERE ARE YOUR REBEL FRIENDS NOW?

>>383220273

Lighting: Awful, everything looks wrong and out of place
Shading: Awful, You can tell the shades are all on the wrong places.
Shadows: Laughably awful.
Textures: Blurred, and smeared.
Color Pallete: Good, the only good thing about this, but it doesn't help that it looks like shit.

>>383209206
Show me Toy Story rendering in real time.
It's just a bunch of static frozen images. There is nothing technically impressive about it whatsoever.

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>>383209613
>uncharted framerate

>>383222357

Videogames are a bunch of static frozen images presented one by one at 30 Hertz frequency, what's your point?

>>383223256
who

>>383223456
Yes, but with a video game if I wanted to change the camera angle or number of actors in a scene I can do so without having to recompute ray traced lighting from scratch. That's my point you fucking cum guzzling faggot.

>>383222580
I love the way these old promos used to look. When the fuck are we going to get Mario games that look like this?

>>383210939
>t. out of greentext
You are absolutely correct.

>>383212543
the point is that OP is complaining about real time rendering not being on par with 1995 pre-rendering which is fundamentally wrong for a long time now.

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>>383228983
as soon as graphics can render them

This toy story meme has to stop

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>>383229678
All of the DKC games on SNES were prerendered though

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>>383213469
Textures in Beast Wars are terrible but god damn did they knock it out of the park with the facial animations.

Which, really, is the more important of the two.

And you know they're good when even the non-human faces are capable of expressing human emotions.

>Beast Wars will be forgotten to time because GM doesn't sell Rhinos

IT'S

NOT

FAIR

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>>383230284
no shit. they dont look this good tho

>>383213039
>we'll never get another game with a Don Bluth animation style

>>383212391
I mean it basically is.

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>>383215050
I do

>>383209497
>oversimplification of a very complex and dynamic process
You don't understand anything do you?
By that logic we should have flying cars by now

>>383230287

I always wanted that figure, but my parents were poor so I got a transmetal 2 cheetor.

>>383227721
hah fking rekt him good. hope he killed himself

>>383233318

lol what a faggot, waiting for me to reply, I felt bad for you so here's your reply.

>>383213878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldnRcpCzE

>>383229174
I don't know if they still do, but Pixar originally created their films by farming together a network of computers which would have a single one of them render a single part of a single frame, until the whole movie was finished.
https://renderman.pixar.com/view/rispec/

>>383234142
holy shit the butthurt from this familia

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>>383213292
The Witcher 3 really benefits from higher resolutions. There's just too much going on for 1080p

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>>383209613
wtf is this.
How do you even use this without you or the pillows falling off?

>>383206498
>>383209497
>>383209497
>Toy Story 2 was EIGHTEEN YEARS AGO
It doesn't matter. You have no idea how intensive it is to do ray tracing over rasterised lighting.

>>383210713
Explain to everyone what pre baked means, just give us all a good laugh

>>383238305
>ray tracing over rasterised lighting
Can you explain what this is? Sounds interesting.

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>>383238097
>There's just too much going on for 1080p

>>383238097
Too much downgrade going on

>>383238867
Ray tracing is in the name, it traces the ray of light exactly where it will bounce around the scene accurately using math. All caustics as well.
Rasterised just guesses or uses other tricks, pre-lit textures and other shit, cheap GI.
Intel tried it on a version of quake wars years ago, and it flopped due to the horrible frame rate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtHDSG2wNho

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>>383206498
>Ray Tracing

That's why we can't do it with current technology. Our poly counts/textures and animations are ALL better than in TS 1 AND 2. But we still can't do raytracing lighting in real time at a high fps.

If GPU power grows exponentially (doubling every 1.5 years) it will be possible to have real time ray tracing in 2037 for their GTX 1080ti equivalent.

>>383238305
This.

One frame in several hours is great for an animated movie. Fewer than 30 frames in a second is a disaster for a vidjageym.

>>383239201
The trees, especially at medium distance, look awful. I've noticed a lot of recent games look really jaggy at lower resolutions compared to older games. Doesn't help that games are moving away from traditional AA in favor of post-processing.

>>383239379
>those spherical mirrors
Neat

>>383238671
prerendered applies like 500x better filters and processing than actual in engine assets
hence why lighting and such is 100% pristine and not as rendered process

>>383206498

Look at the lack of AO. Look at how the remote control looks like it's floating.

Also, character models have gone way beyond Toy Story in the sense that the characters had detached limbs for the most part, which is why they were all written as toys.

>>383206498
Overwatch

>>383213558
Hit and run looked better than that.

>>383242554
SFM looks awful

>>383238671
It means that it won't work with any different lighting conditions so it's useless in vydia. And barely interactive movie garbage is not video games.

>>383211592
>supercomputers from 20 years ago are smartphone tier nowadays right
Except that's wrong you fucking assbandit. Your computer can do many great things, but won't match that of a supercomputer
>>383213532
>iPhone 6’s clock is32,600 times faster than the best Apollo era computers
We're talking a fucking 45 year difference in technology. While only within the same 10 years, the Apollo Guidance Computer had relatively the same clockspeed as an Apple II.

Little Nightmares looked like a Pixar horror film

>>383212034
Except gameplay doesnt even look like this.

>>383206498
>what is ray tracing
They only good thing about this shit is proper lighting because of ray tracing. Everything else is garbage tier.

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God of War 3 looks already better then Toy Story. Ascension was even better.

You have to understand movies have one camera direction right. Unlike video games.


so was gow (generally)

>>383213372
>1995 was 50 years ago
really makes you think...

Except they are, if not better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNCCu0y-Is

Oh wait, you're talking about in game graphics, there are other things games have to render that movies do not.

But when are we going to have good collision meshes? I am tired of seeing things clipping through.