>have 10+ more kills than the enemy team >they still win

epic

>>383181883
The only objective of the game is to destroy the
enemy throne.

>playing shitty multiplayer games

>>383181883
>a competitive game based around RPG mechanics
Why are you surprised it's shit? DotA was a fucking mistake, and it spawned a bunch of cancerous clones.

why they nerf the only fun heroes

RTS is a dead genre.
Nobody will miss it when it's gone

>>383183507
I will. I enjoy Starcraft 2

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>>383181883
>game is called Defense of the Ancients
>you have to defend your ancient
wowwww
>team game
>you can't just win by yourself
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

The game is bad for other much more nuanced reasons. You're just a shitter.

>two people argue over mid
>no support
>no wards
>no one pushes towers
>people criticize each other's builds
>"gg" at 20:00
>even when we tilt, they just keep trying to gank and farm
>lead 2:1 in kills, still lose
>pingpingpingpingpingping
every god damn game in a nutshell

>>383181883
>have 10+ more kills than the enemy team
>they still win because they destroyed your uncontrollable buildings
Because you played poorly and let them fall. You have fortify and you have TP scrolls, if you're 10 kills ahead they shouldn't be taking objective control.

>have way more items than your enemy
>they fight you 3v1 and kill you
It's a team game. Why are you upset that a team game is designed around teamwork?

Why do people try to criticize games they don't know fucking anything about? Who do I still go here?

>It completely undervalues individual skill
>discourages killing enemies over getting good items

Honestly, why are you playing this game to begin with?
It's got "team game" written all over it and makes it pretty damn clear that it's not a deathmatch as well.

Not judging your tastes here, but what made you think you'd find Dota 2 enjoyable at all if you value personal skill over strategic teamplay and enjoy deathmatches more than objective based gameplay?

>>383181883
>Why is this game so shit? It completely undervalues individual skill and discourages killing enemies over getting good items. The winning mechanic (destroying the enemy Ancient) is simply stupid.
Literally "I personally don't like it so it's bad"
Fuck off

whats enjoyable about dota? tell me dota fags.

>>383181883
>playing wc3 or red alert
>have more money and buildings than enemy
>opponent plays the game
>wtf how I lose I have more stuff

eat shit, diaf, etc

>>383181883
Do you get mad when people cap points in TF2 5cp?

>>383181883
you're meant to kill your enemy as a means of killing their buildings. if it wasn't like this, there would be no reason to have any buildings.

>>383184713
It's a tactics game, not a pure action game. I think it's fun to situationally work out a way to pierce into the other team's base based on their team comp and how they're playing. I like working with a team, when you have friends to play with and you work well together it's very satisfying.

If you just want pure action deathmatching and you don't want the game to be built on teamwork, play something else.
I don't understand how "different people like different things" is such a hard concept for you to grasp.

If you like the general concept of the genre but don't like these aspects of it, you might like LoL better. It's a lot more streamlined in these regards, it's more of an arms race and skirmishing game than a tactics game.

>>383184713
You smoke gank, twice, and the enemy team starts tilting in all chat, salty because they can't fucking into counterganking.
Also the trench never ends. Not even in pro games

>>383184713
using nukes on dps fags

>>383184713
The cosmetics. And honestly. I find it more relaxing than competitive overwatch. I dunno why, it just feels more slow paced. I have a good time

>>383184713
it's super satisfying to kill people in that game

you feel as if you are rewarded for every correct choice

>>383181883
Dude, why is chess so shit? The winning mechanic (to checkmate the king) is simply stupid.

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>>383187502
>you feel as if you are rewarded for every correct choice
Thats true, but you need to git gud to even notice it. Even for small choices, like pathing
Or not fucking up in the pick screen.

>>383188412
Last word hasn't disarmed in ages.

>>383189236
He lost his color palette before that even happened.

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>>383189428

>>383181883
The only value Dota 2 has is to waste countless hours of your life and get very little in return. It's not fun, it's not enjoyable and it's not even all that challenging, it's just incredibly frustrating. I played like 8k hours of it and reached 6k MMR.

The only reason to play this game is if you have too much time on your hand, aka if you're a NEET and you're bored of other games. But if you just want a game to waste your life on, Dota 2 is a perfect game.

>>383190152
>The only value Dota 2 has is to waste countless hours of your life and get very little in return.
So, it's a video game

>It's not fun, it's not enjoyable and it's not even all that challenging, it's just incredibly frustrating.
>wahhhh my opinions are facts!!

>>383188412
You should update this now, the first ability has been replaced by arcane curse and it punishes spammable skills instead.

If your individual skill is better than the enemy team, but they play the game better than you, your individual skill isn't better than the enemy team.

The game isn't undervaluing individual skill - you're holding on to some idea that you think is skill but doesn't matter nearly as much as you want it to. I don't even play these things and I know that if it isn't the point of the game, it doesn't matter how well you think you're doing it.

>>383190504
Tell me how Dota 2 is enjoyable you 3k scrubfag

>>383184713

Fleeting moments of hope and sudden urge to kill yourself

>>383190152
Fucking nailed it. Also it's an unlimited supply of RAGE against Russians.

>>383190848
I already did, you drooling moron. >>383186240
Open your eyes and read the words on your screen.

>>383192164
You must have literal braindamage if you enjoy Dota after the 7,00 update.

It hurts to lose a match 60-40 but its just that many people have no idea how to play. They waste too much time farming meanwhile the enemy team still has T1 towers.

>>383192443
Great argument

>>383192647
cheers

>>383192443
>wahh they added more depth to the game

neck yourself

>>383193192
>7,00
>more depth
More like get rewarded for playing like a retard because you can just go >lul muh shrines

There's a big reason why the game has been losing players since that god awful patch

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games are making me suicidal

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>>383193428
I also have 2k mmr

>>383190950
Thanks for reminding me

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>>383184713
Making the life of nine strangers miserable for an hour or more

>>383181883
Git Gud

>>383181883
>when you've got 3700 hours played and somehow barely scrape 3000 MMR

I don't even know why I keep going, probably out of love for Clockwerk

>>383193428
Why did you leave dota running for so long?

>>383194080
More like why did I play those really retarded custom maps for so long

>>383193428
>>383193690
As long as you enjoy yourself your MMR doesn't matter :^)

>>383181883
One word
Positioning

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>>383193690
>mfw I have 5k hours but I only play unranked with some good buds and do cheese strats and just have a good time without caring about winning or losing

You guys are playing dota wrong

>>383196070
thats's exactly why I have 2k
that and 10k hours on custom maps

>>383196225
>thats's exactly why I have 2k
Why are you doing that in ranked?

>>383196295
because after 20k hours you realise ranked is glorified unranked that is worse than unranked

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>>383196225
>mfw climbed from 1.9k to 3k using Lone druid during his sniper patch

I'm 3.2k trying to climb as a support now, spamming lich, rubick, and treant.

>>383181883
you're supposed to defend those building, retard

>>383196295
It doesn't matter if you're 2k or 8k and playing with singsong, you WILL queue with 9 incompatible people.
>>383196816
I remember during the leshrac op era, I went from 900 mmr to 4k

>>383196816
>Supporting as Lich.

Why the fuck would anyone suffer such a fate? Go offlane and play a semi-greedy position four or some shit, atleast that has some merit of entertainment to it because you're fucking with the enemy safelane instead of trying to turn Lich into a lane securing support like Lion. Plus, you actually get to build some fucking items. God damn does that hero need items to be any form of fun, even if he doesn't really scale with them.

>Playing football
>WTF why can't I just grab the ball, 1v11 and win by myself?
>this is bullshit. It undervalues individual skill

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>>383197394
Yeah sometimes the struggle is you win the lane but don't win the game. I just try to build items to save my cores like force staff and glimmer. I play him more like a 5 and buy all the wards and detection. I guess I just like the fact he's a nice team fight support with his chain frost.

My true calling if offlane, but man I get ticked off when there is not a single ward on the map or when people don't know how to counter ward. It's definitely a lot better of an experience supporting in the 3k bracket compared to 2k.

>get matched with an anime avatar/and or epic 4chin meme name
>invariably rage and allchat about how shit everyone, including the enemy team who are taking the ancient, is
What is wrong with you nerds

>>383184713
Good sound design, nice visual feedback.
Hero design is great, and balanced. Using abilities feels awesome. Also it's a game that actually lets you outsmart your enemy and you have a lot of opportunities to do so every single game.
The only good MOBA.

>>383198426
>NS
>playing since launch day and I still can't have 2 consecutive wins with him

>>383193319
Keep up your habit of crying over every little thing you don't like.
Learn to play around shrines, instead of screaming because you can't adapt.

>>383196651
After a certain mmr though, it seems the only people that play unranked don't even wan't to play and just fuck around. (btw I'm just 4.6k so not even an actually high mmr)

>>383198647
Anime just makes people really angry..

>>383184380
in fairness thats low-mmr dota it gets better as mmr increases

I only know because my mmr is shit tier

I have 350 hours and have been avoiding ranked but I can't take normals anymore, absolutely nothing but retard third worlders and 12 year olds who just do unbelievably stupid shit all game and talk shit in broken english

>>383200896
...forgot to finish the post. Should I just start playing ranked?

>>383200896
keep making new accounts until you stay in the very high bracket after the first 10 games, that what I did. It's a lot more bearable. Of course, you also get shitters and are locked at 50% winrate.

>>383181883
1. The goal is to take objectives, not to get the most kills
2. It's a team game

>>383200896
If you truly believe you don't deserve to be matched against people you call retards, sure
It's like putting your money where your mouth is

>>383200116
Simmer down let's not blame the anime itself

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>>383181883
>take huge team fight, lose nobody and wipe the whole enemy team
>team turns around and resumes farming, doesn't take any objectives
>your team is leading by 20+ kills but hasn't taken more than 1 tower
>you get split pushed and lose the game because your team doesn't want to buy tp scrolls
This shit infuriates me, why do people hate playing the objective? Because it doesn't affect their kda so they can't brag about it?

>>383203508
I'd like to think they're just afraid of buildings

>>383201409
If I choose a hard carry I'm not 0-12 by 15 minutes while spamming all chat about how my team is shit in broken english

>>383181883
>why are all games so shit
ftfy
Get out in the real world where individual skill matters and rise above the rest