>I fell for the P5 meme This game is completely mediocre

>>383170749
>Sure the story is pretty good, but nothing mind blowing. It's pretty predictable and reads like a children short story.

You have no one to blame but yourself since the game is explicitly written so the dumb nipponese teenager can understand and then add to the love of spoilers that nips also have since it makes them feel smart of whatever about knowing what comes next.

persona has always been an anime simulator, it isn't exceptionally good at the VN social aspects or the dungeon crawling, but it ties them all together in a neat package and has memorable characters

go play a real SMT game if you don't want an anime simulator

>>383170749
wtf I hate persona5 now

>>383170749
the story's just ok, everything else is trash

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>>383170749
>don't like VNs
>go out and buy a VN anyway
>be suprised when it's a VN

Ok

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>Buying a game that tells you it's half VN on the box and complaining when the characters don't shut up

>>383171521
I expect a 5 minute conversation, not 2 hours. Neptunia is more tolerable than this.

If it's completely mediocre, that's at least a step up from the previous two Persona games.

>>383170749
If you dislike VNs why did you buy a VN with a couple of hours of RPG gameplay in the first place?

>>383171730
VNs are okay, but I expected more game than talking. Xenogears had a lot of talking in it, but nowhere near this 2 hour movie about absolutely garbage.

>>383170749
Story was ok. The shadows being one-dimensional exposition machine villains made sense since that's the precedent this franchise has set, but there was absolutely no excuse for Goro to basically be a weaker execution of what they'd already done with Adachi

No shit

>>383171902
so is the first time dealing with a Persona game for you I guess...

>>383171693
5 min conversation in a VN, ok.

Only good palace was Kamoshida.
Shido's palace was a disappointment for what the character was and the power he hold in the real. Shido's palace should have been like early palaces, do real world stuff to procceed in the palace instead of fighting mini-bosses over and over

>They just suddenly go "ANON WHO THE FUCK IS THIS FUCKER IN THIS TIME AT THIS ERA!?" Talk about bad VN choices.
It is the same shit as P3 and P4. There should be more info about those questions though. Only a few you can know the answer about "chinese" history since they are about your teammates persona and you can read books for that, almost everything else is just "read a guide, or be japanese or just try your luck".

>confidants or s.links
Most are usually boring, just help those guys with trivial things and the girls are usually the worse(or that french gay or that fat kid on P3). Overall there are exceptions like Yoshida, Iwai, Sojiro or that sun guy from P3 with more serious stuff or people that want just to talk.
Girls should just be hangouts like how Elizabeth was instead of "adults are mean and need a change of heart" or "a friend of mine did this and that and now I am worried... Protag-kun, what do you think???"

>>383171902
Disc 2 was nothing but talking and boss fights

>>383173915

>Shido's palace should have been like early palaces, do real world stuff to procceed in the palace instead of fighting mini-bosses over and over

I would've liked that, but Shido was untouchable in the real world. Ryuji almost got the shit kicked out of him by Shido's bodyguards trying to approach him after his speech, and you couldn't do anything around the Diet building since you're just teenagers. There would've been no way to interact with him and break down barriers. Instead, I would've liked if all the research he had on cognitive psience actually bore any fruit other than a mystery pill which... made his palace collapse slightly faster?

Persona 5 was my first attempt at the Persona series (have played a come other SMT games before and were pretty good for the most part).

Why the fuck is Persona the one Atlas puts all the budget into? The best thing about this game is literally the production value, and that's it. Dungeon crawling is poor, the social aspect is dumb, and the game drags everything on far longer than should be tolerated.

No idea why people think 100+ hour JRPG's aren't anything but a waste of time. Chrono Trigger tells a more compelling story, has better characters and combat, and is only 20 hours (or less).

>>383175287
Social aspect is the best part of the game, it's why it sells gang busters. It's one of the studios biggest sellers, so of course they are going to shill it as much as possible, all their other long running series are either shit or poor sellers

>>383170749
>have no idea what Persona games are
>play 5 because it's popular
>HURR WHY IS THIS GAME NOT MUH FINAL FANTASY

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>play Persona game
>get a Persona game
>"wooooooooooooow what the fuck is this"
Well what the fuck did you expect.

>>383175567
Then the game is shit, because there is literally nothing to the social aspect of the game. It isn't even a "mechanic". Literally talk to two dimensional characters that all fall in love with you for dungeon buffs (which are only 10% of the game).

>>383176152
>two dimensional characters
ok

>>383170749
It isn't 100/100 but it is 5/5 is you catch my drift.

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>>383176152
I don't know what to tell you. You are not the target audience for these games. Sorry, not every game has to cater to your tastes. There are popular games you don't have to like/play.

>>383170749
This tbqh

>>383176293
Then who is?

As a VN, it fails.

As a JRPG, it's drawn out between actual dungeon crawling.

As an anime simulator, it doesn't hit any of the things that makes anime fun or interesting.

So who is this shit for?

>>383176210
Who isn't 2D is a better question? Junpei? Because I've played 3,4, and 5 and all of the characters are walking stereotypes, have little to no personality, and just because a character does a 180 personality flip on something doesn't mean that it is good character progression.

These games are so mediocre in every aspect, even as a waifu VN jRPG. The life simulation aspects are interesting but overall all of the budget are wasted on style over substance, and even then other than the music and visuals the games are pretty much trash. Which is a shame because I love Yakuza, that is a proper life sim jRPG done well. But Persona is so fucking bad I don't know how you could play 80 hours of this shit.

>>383176845
..People who like the Persona series. Sorry that's so hard for you to comprehend.

>>383176845
There's a reason it's considered a niche series in the first place

>All these people defending Persona 5 bloated story and dialog because "It's a VN"

P3 and P4 wern't as tedious and boring as P5, for some odd reason P5 felt the need to push its story on you all the fucking time. Game was more enjoyable when you learn you should skip pretty much all dialog, because even by skipping, the plot gets repeated so much, you'll understand whats happening even reading at 10x speed

>>383176918
>all the characters have little no personality
you clearly aren't invested in the games or care to learn about the characters. Each one has depth, its just not shoved in your face in an overdramatic way. Perona uses stereotypes and then subverts them if you pay attention, if you don't it just seems like typical shit. Not every character needs to go through a life style change by the prescene of the MC

Play Trails of Cold Steel. It's a better Persona.

>>383176845
>it doesn't hit any of the things that makes anime fun or interesting
Which is precisely why P5 is the best one. It left anime fans out in the cold so it could tell its story.

>>383174987
>Shido's campaign on streets
>Yoshida
>Akechi
>Sae
>Haru's company that had connections with those rich guys you fought in the cruiser

Every other character I mentioned could have pulled strings to meet those rich guys you fought. Perhaps Iwai could help with the Yakuza guy.

In Madarame's and Sae's palaces they needed to go to a place, or make them realize something was going on. Shido for someone that knew the cognitive so well it was just to beat damn richfags cognitive. At least the Yakuza was interesting.

you can tell this is bait because OP called them "social links" which is only used in P3 and P4

>>383177285
>p4
>4 hours opening cutscene
>not tedious

>>383177438
FUCKING L O L

>>383177285

P3 and P4 had their own faults which were considerably more annoying. I'll take P5's more regulated calendar and absurdly overkill amount of text convos over 260+ floors of Tartarus or 20% of the days spent doing fuck-all because it's raining and you already finished the dungeon of the month.

>>383177542
Really, people that think P5 somehow was worse than P4 or P3 in any of these respects either haven't ever played or just have terrible fucking memory of both of them. P4's opening dragged for so long while P5 broke up its intro with gameplay almost constantly.

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>>383170749
>Sure the story is pretty good
Thanks for clarifying that your taste is shit, the story was easily the worst aspect of this game. It was nonsensical garbage full of plotholes and asspulls for the sake of convenience.

>>383177394
Nah, it's not true. It's just typical anime garbage without what makes anime interesting and shoved into a mediocre VN series. You can make some arguments for some characters, but no one ever plays Persona and expects well written characters, just characters that are boring and easy to imagine by losers and fall in love with MC for no reason.

>>383170749
you fell for the Persona meme. I'm sorry you were tricked iinto buying this turd.

>>383177716
Bad pacing is not an excuse to completely shut off your brain and fail to keep track of a single thing. Nearly everyone is fucking retarded now so it may seem like it is, but it isn't and it won't be until only retards are left.

>>383177812
>it's just typical anime garbage
Thanks for proving my point. Every Persona game has some badly written characters, but overall there are plenty of well developed and interesting characters presented in each game. It's obvious the high school setting is what's turning you off, not the actual quality of the character writing

>>383177716
>>383177812
>>383177954
Sasuga baito

>>383177442
Yes, a generic post 2000 anime story that literally pulls power of fucking friendship.

>>383177542
You're right, it was tedious, P5 doubled down on that concept though Did we really need a tutorial about movement in a dungeon?
>>383177668
Someone should run a side by side comparison, because that intro in P5 is possibly the longest and most boring tutorial i've played in recent memory.

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Absolutely Based Persona Working Anon into buying VN/JRPG and spending hundreds of hours on it despite the fact that he hates reading. Game is 10/10 prepare to buy GOTY edition

>>383178110
I like some highschool settings, I just don't like it done so juvenile and boringly as they're done in these games, and most anime.

In the lyrics of one of my favorite bands

Sound of silver talk to me
Makes you want to feel like a teenager
Until you remember the feelings of
A real life emotional teenager
Then you think again

Yet the themes in these games are all the same, how evil adults are, how adults mistreat kids, how adults cause all the pain in the world, the power of friendship, etc etc. Same in P3, P4, and P5. And it's not like any of the main party S-links or arcs are done well.

>>383177285
>p3
>not tedious
nigger p3 is my favorite game and even I admit the middle of that game is a fucking 60 hour slog
the start is great until just about the train boss, then it goes intofull slog mode right up until the big emotional crit, then it picks up again. that gap is fucking excruciating, with barely enough in there to keep you going.
p5 starts up in medias res, throws you into a plot that keeps you playing to find out what happened, and doesn't have any long periods of nothing. Even if you beat dungeons day 1,you still have the motivator of the flashback setup to keep going. in p3 all you have is "let's keep climbing the tower because idk, there might be something there"

>>383178849
Not every game needs to play into the whole "in reality being a teenager/in highschool sucked" motif. The Persona games are far more about the celebration of the friendships you made and the life changing moments, mixed with the fear of that seedy underbelly and overcoming it during your teenage years. As for the evil adults thing, that really is only hammered in on 5, in 3 and 4 it just happens to be the case where the bad guy was an adult, it wasn't the focus of the games message. even then 5 is more about "the system" then the actual adults, it just uses them as a representation. And of course the characters "arcs" are done poorly, because they dont' exist/aren't the focus. The characters exist, and just like in real life, your very existence isn't going to change them in a dramatic way. Persona explores the deeper aspects of each character, not show you a progression throughout the story. I can understand why you wouldn't like the style of story telling, but that doesn't mean it's bad writing

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>>383178849
>ADULTS ARE MEAN AND EVIL
>oh poor teenager, you killed a bunch of people but you were used by a bad adult, right? RIGHT??? Right, just start all over, don't need to apologize! we can't forgive... but, actually we will forgive you. bad adults also used us
>WHAT? YOU ARE LIKE 18 OR 20 AND YOU KICK ANIMALS??? YOU ARE LIKE THOSE EVIL ADULTS!!! WE WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU!!! WHAT? YOU ARE SORRY NOW? JUST CHANGE YOUR WAYS AND SAY YOU ARE SORRY TO THOSE YOU HURT BUT WE WILL NOT FORGIVE YOU!!!

>>383179645
Maybe I'm misremembering games, because I'm sure I beat the persona games around the 50 hr mark

I'm just at the casino level in P5 at the 50 hr mark, and the pacing was so shit that I lost all motivation to finish the game. Everytime I boot up my Ps3 with the intention to at least attempt to finish P5, I usually boot up Godhand or ZoE2 instead.

>>383180115

The only way you're beating P3/P4 in 50 hours is you're fast-forwarding every cutscene without reading them, or it's NG+ and you're demolishing Tartarus blocks or the dungeons in five minutes. P3 is the shortest and it should take you 60-70 hours legit, assuming you don't play baby mode.

That said P5 is pretty fucking bloated, like 95% of those phone text chats are useless filler.

>>383170749
>Sure the story is pretty good
It was total shit.
The game lead you on in the first few hours about being a thief of hearts.
Instead im targetting shitty adults for upvotes through shittier dungeons.

>>383180115
The casino is the point where the game picks up the plot from the start of the game. how does this not motivate you? It's literally beat this dungeon and find out what the fuck happened in the start. I'm sorry if you're an exception, but this is generally a good way to motivate a player.

>i fell for ___ meme
welcome to v

>>383170997
what the fuck?

>>383180516
>never done exercise in the room
>never gym, except for a Ryuji and Ann's confidants
>never maid cafe
>realized in the last available days there was a crossword magazine at Leblanc's and that Sojiro's random talk about coffee were the answers to that

Fucking hell. I always saw that magazine on Leblanc, but never tried because of being busy with other stuff

>>383180961
I'm at the start of the dungeon, not the end. It didnt help that I finished that crappy dungeon before it in minimal time and 20 days of "free time" followed by an eternity of crappy plot points.

Maybe i'll finish the casino level this weekend, but I already spoiled myself reading /v/ by now and i'm not really interested in the plot.

>>383176845
its for persona fans and not so hardcore smt fans. this game really motivates me into getting devil survivor. love the whole idea and use of the demon thing i find it incredibly interesting.

>>383181449
>spoiled the plot for yourself
>why am I not motivated to finish the game?
Gee anon, I don't know.

>>383181723
That happened 2 weeks after I stoppped playing, I bought it at launch like everyone else.

>>383181635
This, it's for people that either fully enjoy the smt way or the ones that enjoy it but who would be really afraid of some things like the baslic of smt1 or YHVH's universe in SMT4A

>>383181983
should I get apocalypse? Im now really into this kind of series

>>383181898
Honestly, I don't get you anon. For me, the casino was the point where I couldn't stop playing. I even liked the casino mechanics somewhat, and the boss fight was fun. You're free to not finish the game if you want, and honestly if you spoiled it for yourself it'll take a lot of impact out of it, but I still think you should try beating it.

>>383182158
Start with smt4 because apocalypse is a direct sequel, if you love the gameplay in 4 you're going to love the one in apocalypse

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At least you didn't fall for this meme

>>383181898
At this point if you feel like it's forced then the game is probably just not for you I don't mean you have shit taste or anything but sometimes it happens that you just can't find the enjoyment in a game because it doesn't "click" with you

>>383182158
There's a lot of memeing about Dagda and having a party that actually talks around here, but 4A is good and has a number of gameplay and qol improvements over past games. Hallelujah is best girl.

Well I for one am enjoying the gane immensely. About to send Sae's calling card out now.

>>383182972
>Best girl
Thats a weird way to spell Dagda Boyo

>>383183648
Dagda is not a girl.

I'm curious how bad /v/'s taste really is
http://www.strawpoll.me/13380609