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Is there a way you can be legitametely stuck in a Pokemon game?

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Is there a way you can be legitametely stuck in a Pokemon game? Not being able to do anything? I can recall the possibility (Gold/Silver/Crystal) of selling all your items, spending all your money and releasing all your Pokemon with the exception of a Magikarp, but even then you might save yourself, I've never tried it.
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If you do that you can just struggle against bugs for an hour to learn tackle and rebuild from there.
You're never locked into place with a Pokémon box in the area, so no.
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>>383155764
And if the Magikarp faints, the player tosses no money away (since he has none)?
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>>383155392
Depends on what restrictions you put on yourself, because one could easily argue that even if you go to a high level place, release all your pokemon, ect, you could always trade someone to get out of it
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>>383156165
It's pretty much impossible to become permanently stuck thanks to trading, but if you can't there's plenty of scenarios where you're fucked such as stranding yourself on Cinnabar, Cianwood or Sootopolis.
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>>383155392
You can just struggle and faint yourself back to a Pokemon Center
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>>383156427
Without trading, any place that can 1 shot your only pokemon would make you stuck
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>>383155392
I recall there being a ship in Ruby/Sapphire you could get stuck in if you had the sailors see you in certain spots
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>>383156427
Yeah, that's what I meant (forgot to mention in original post); releasing all the Pokemon but a Magikarp, selling all your items and then spending *all* your money on tossable garbage (Mail). Is there any way you can (without trading) continue normal gameplay if you're stuck on Sotopolis with a level 5 Magikarp and no money and items (let's say on Ruby)?
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>>383157197
>Complaining about a relatively interesting gameplay discussion

What would you rather have? Another waifu thread? Another "SJWs are ruining games" thread?
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>>383157206
Without a fishing rod, you have no way to encounter Wild Pokemon in Sootopolis since Magikarp can't Surf.
Therefore, you can't slog through the grind of making Magikarp reach Level 20 by fighting other Magikarp so it can evolve and learn Surf and Dive.
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>>383155392
No, the game is programming specially to stop that, that why HM are reusable on the first games and you can't release or trade a pokemon that has an HM move learned, and the cities that let you delete HM moves are within normal reach of the player.

They think of this, you can only lock yourself with glitches or save editing.
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>>383157206
>>383156427
>>383157430
Read >>383157569
You can't release a pokemon that knows an HM move, and you can't make it forget HM moves in that place.
Play the games next time.
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>>383157418
People like him>>383157197 is the reason why 4chan has become cancer and shit.

>>383157197
Enjoy waifu and Baneposting, you autistic fag.
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I remember there being a glitch in Platinum where if you go on an island and trade a certain Pokemon a guy wants and it also happens to be your only surfer, you're literally trapped if none of your other Pokemon can utilize Surf/Fly
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>>383157939
You can't trade pokemons with hm moves, even in-world npc trades.
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>>383155392
In Red/Blue/Yellow there is a point where you need an item from the Safari Zone to progress, it is possible (though extremely difficult without trying) to waste all your money and exhaust all the accessible trainers and not be able to proceed.
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>>383158151
If you're or of money, don't they let you in for free?
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>>383158386
Out*
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>>383158386
Only in Yellow.
Even then, you can still grind Wild Meowth's Pay Day for money in RBG, so it's still possible to progress there.
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>>383158151

I guess you could do the same before buying the drink for that guy who blocks the road to sabrina's city
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>>383158092
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-rbS-l1SHgc
Why you lie?
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>>383156019
Yup. Your Magikarp gets revived for free.
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>>383157197
I must be getting old I was excited by this thread it's a interesting question, I never did it perosnally but have thought about ways to "softlock" games and those rocks were the perfect example.

Then losers like you who are just a virus that proliferates, meanwhile people who want to actually talk about things are just bacteria in a dish somewhere.
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>>383155392
i remember watching a clip of someone walking in front of trainer #7, triggering the fight and making him walk 3 cells down, going behind him and saving, loading the game to find the npc reset.
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Catch MissingNo and hope something fun happens.
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In R/B/Y on one of the routes there's a closed in space blocked by a trainer and a cuttable tree, if you don't have cut you can lure the trainer out with a battle and go behind him to get the item that's there. If you save in that spot and reset, the trainer will reset to their original position and without cut, you will be trapped permanently.
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Here ya go OP
https://youtu.be/-rbS-l1SHgc
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>>383155392
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>>383158542
Meowth is only in Blue and I think Yellow.
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>>383159080
Unlike other video games, for adult people like yourself. Now fuck off.
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Gen3: Wobuffett vs Wobuffett, both holding leftovers.
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>>383155392
In pokemon blue when I was a wee lad I got stuck.

The game had just come out and there wasn't /v/ to help me out, so I had to restart the game.
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>>383156940
You'd just be sent to the last pokemon center though.
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>>383158662
>>383159068
Finneon can only be caught with a fishing rod, this guy doesn't have a fishing rod.
Really makes you think...
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>>383159526
Trade for one
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>>383158951

this seems like a legit softlock.

>>383157569 is right about HMs
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infinite battle clause
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>>383155392
I vaguly remember my friend playing pokeman R/B and had run out of money and items and wasnt able to progress because he couldnt afford to pay and npc to enter the pokeman catching contest thing (where you have a limited number of steps you can take)
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>>383157939
You don't find a rod on that island?
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>>383159903
Nope it's just you and some weird dude forevially trapped and loving it.
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>>383159669
i don't think it's legit, what's the point of placing a tree there if you can get the item before getting cut?

It could have been a romhack.

Then again, it's gen one.
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>Go to Cinnabar
>Dump everything but a weak ass Pokemon that can't learn Surf and has no chance of weakening nearby Pokemon that could learn Surf.

They didn't implement the "you can't release this Pokemon if it's the only one you have that could learn an HM" thing until later gens, right?
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>>383159698
>does this look like the face of mercy?
>only then will you have my permission to die
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>>383160190
>right?
Why are you posting shit that you haven't tested?
No, you can't release a pokemon with hm moves.
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>>383155392
I guess like, in saphire, if you save at a pokemon center in the middle of the ocean, then release all your swimming pokemon.

You don't HAVE to grab any of the rods so you couldn't fish your shit back, either.
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>>383160164
Yes, it is legit. The point of it is to reward the player for having the forethought to lure out the guy. The cuttable tree is there for people who didn't piece it together
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>>383160190
It wasn't until Gen 3 that you couldn't ditch Pokemon who knew HMs.
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>>383159607
Well, then you won't encounter this during normal single player, but it was an oversight from the developers.
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>>383157197
>Complains about autism but can't report and ignore a single thread
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>>383160582
PLAY THE GODDAMN GAMES BEFORE SPOUTING SHIT
You can't release a pokemon that knows an HM move.
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>>383160454
>>383160587
>reading comprehension
he said COULD learn an HM
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>>383155392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8sTGne04ds

i guess something like this?
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>>383160454
>Why are you posting shit that you haven't tested?

Because the thread will have 404'd by the time I get far enough in the game to test it?
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>>383159080
What is this, a Google for ants?
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>>383160190
Yeah, but then you could still get out by someone trading you something with surf.


>>383158951
So far, this is the one true softlock (but it's assuming you didn't just catch an Abra/ for some reason have something with fly). You can't trade your way out of it, youre just stuck. You don't need to do anything ridiculous like use all of your money or release all your pokemon either, you just have to be a dumb kid saving in a bad spot
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>>383160729
Okay fuck you, cinnibar island then.

You can release HM slaves in gen 1 suck my dick.
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Why would you want that anyways? Let's be honest. Getting stuck always sucks, even if you have to try hard to suck enough to do so.

Fuck I played pokemon gold and silver for the adventure, exploration and some of the combat. Some of it. I thought people were already taking it a bit far by creating this fucking community around jerking each other off with these IVs and EVs and UAVs and whatever the fuck. Then I saw this faggot looking guy with glasses trying to finish these games in like 2 hours tops with no glitches while screaming at mom because his brother cucked him. And now this? What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>383155392
Yeah in gen 1-ruby sapphire it is. After Gen 4 I don't think it is. Gen 1 there are tons of ways. people have made videos on the subject if you're more interested. This video is pretty good guy isnt a mexican,attention whore,or a dudebro like most pokemon shit on YouTube .https://youtu.be/VGlZu2hoAiE
>inb4 shilling
It ain't shilling if you do it for free nigger.
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>>383155392
If you run out of money in Gen 1 and can't get into the Safari Zone to get the HM, then your game is effectively over.

Also these:
https://youtu.be/B8sTGne04ds
https://youtu.be/-rbS-l1SHgc
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In RSE you can strand yourself in Sootopolis by corrupting your box with Bad Eggs through the Pomeg Berry glitch.
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>>383161210
Already posted, twice, read the bread next time man
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>>383155392
>>383161150
Actually I guess you could technically get stuck in gen 4 via the 4 square glitch riding through a wall save and restart the game without having fly or teleport.
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>>383161103
>Why would you want that anyways?

No one wants it to actually happen to them. It's just sheer curiosity.
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>>383161150
I wouldn't say his content is bad (and you tell me if he doesn't get ad revenue for that anyways marty mcfaggotface) but his voice is definitely the worst characteristic. He's like the default generic movie critic, he talks slow, he makes it uninteresting on purpose. It's like matthewmatosis, these people try too hard to act intellectual.
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>>383161302
You'd have to have also not obtained any rods to do this. If you had a rod you could fish teach a poke dive surf etc
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>>383158951

how do you manage to make him walk 3 spaces down and avoid the fight? fly or teleport i'm guessing?
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>>383161210
>If you run out of money in Gen 1 and can't get into the Safari Zone to get the HM, then your game is effectively over.
Not really. IRRC there's a TM for Payday, and either way you could just catch a Meowth. Unless you purposefully go out of your way to not teach Payday to anyone, you can still make money
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I played Yellow on emulator and got stuck once. In Victory Road one of those barriers which you need Strength for bugged out and I managed to pass through. However the rest of the cave was still normal so I turned back and the barrier was back up and I didn't have the HM with me or anything that knew Strength. Then again, it's still a cave so I could let all the Golbats chip my mons to death so I restart at a Pokemon Center
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you can strand yourself on cinnibar island in gen1 too

dont get any rods ,release every water pokemon spend all money and use the pokecenter on the island and you cannot leave
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I'm sure you can get stuck in the older games.

If you look up the glitches you perform to get missingno or mew to appear you could probably do something like those by mistake and get stuck in a tile or something, though the chances would be 1 in millions
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>>383155392
it is possible to get stuck in D/P/Pt by trading away your Finneon to Meister if it's your only pokemon that knows Surf
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>>383161472
It doesn't matter if you have a rod or not. If you're not carrying any Pokeballs you can't catch any Pokemon.
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>>383161803
>Fly
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>>383162028
>release your flyer

you cant get a flying pokemon in cinnibar anyway
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>>383161064
>(but it's assuming you didn't just catch an Abra/ for some reason have something with fly)
Or have something with Cut which is required to get to Cerulean.

>>383161529
>avoid the fight?
Well, obviously you go behind him after the fight.
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>>383162028
Release all your flying pokémon or fill their movepool with other non-Fly HMs
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>>383161567
what if you don't have money for balls to catch that meowth and/or a pokemon that can learn the TM?
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What's the best pokemon to play if you're the kind of person that enjoys pokemon games for the single player experience? Not talking about the story but rather the adventure aspect. The "you're still playing some jrpg, man" aspect.

I'm considering Pokemon Diamond but I haven't played X/Y or Sun/Moon.
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>>383160758
the only actual answer
have a (you)
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>>383163415
Platinum is generally considered the best Pokemon game [citation needed], try that.
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>>383163415
If you want a real sense of adventure, I'd recommend looking for another RPG series like Xenoblade, the magic and wonder's been dead in Pokémon for ages.
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>>383163415
Gen 2 (not the remakes) has the best music. There's a small bit of nonlinearity, too, which is relatively uncommon.
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>>383163415
Skip SunMoon and wait for Ultra SunMoon
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>>383163750
Well, I can see why. There's some actual difficulty and elite 4 can actually break that notion that you can just barge in with a really garbage overleveled team. The map is pretty neat and has its secrets. There's quite a few decent minigames. It has pretty good music as well. Extra event content is also good.
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>>383159080
This angry autist.
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>>383163945
What the fuck's the difference?
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>>383164175
>There's quite a few decent minigames
The Underground was top comfy.
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>>383164278
One's ultra.
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>>383163945
>not only do they make double the profits from selling the same game twice now they're selling the same game four times
Nintendo was a mistake.
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>>383164418
Yeah, I spent quite some time on that.

Another thing I loved was casinos, IIRC they fucked up with that though in Platinum because children and gambling.
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>>383163415
>The "you're still playing some jrpg, man" aspect.
Gen 5, hands down.
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>>383164450
Yeah, this time they went a little bit further.

First they decided to make "third" versions that were just basically enhanced versions with a little bit of new content. Then the remakes, and now there's 2 of the enhanced version.
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>>383164450
>now
Nigga what? There's always been two Pokémon version, and you're not supposed to buy both, you're supposed to trade with your friends so they're not making ""double the profit""
>they're selling the same game four times
Sequels/reinventions like Black 2 White 2 are not the same game.
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>>383163415
Refer to this list.
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>>383164852
That's it, time for soul silver. Fuck this shit.
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>>383164852
The first ranking list I've seen that I've completely agreed with.
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>>383164852
gen 2 > remakes
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>>383164845
No, this time is different. Most gens had 2/3 of the same with half of them having 2 remakes. This one has 4 games.
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>>383164450
Well, hopefully it's like BW2.

>>383164572
>Another thing I loved was casinos
Yeah, they removed them from the European games. They're still in the Japanese and US ones, though.
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Protip: pokemon games are designed for KIDS

you stupid dumbasses
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Kill yourselves, you autistic manchildren.
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>>383164798
I don't know man, I found 5th gen to be tiring overall. I was the kind of guy who started at gen 1, left on gen 3, went back on gen 4 and then again found it uninteresting by gen 5. Which made me skip the ones after.
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>>383165114
I do like the atmosphere and music of the originals more, but I can't look past the following Pokémon, Battle Frontier, Pokéathlon, gym leader rematches and stronger Elite Four teams and restored Kanto locations that HGSS brought to the table.
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>>383155392
Back in the days when I played Pokémon blue on my Gameboy before we had internet I was never able to find the flash ability. So I eventually just learned the dark cave without lighting it up. I also remember not finding the rock pushing HM in one of the later games so I never got to the Pokémon league. So I guess the answer to your question is yes. You can get stuck in a Pokémon game.
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>>383165209
Protip: you're designed for KIDS
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>>383165114
Objectively false. The simple fact that HGSS uses the modern boxing system alone already elevates it miles above gen 2
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>>383165209
And what does this have to do with the thread and what it's discussing?
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>>383159080
SON OF BARNEYFAG?
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>>383165329
I'm the guy who got sick and tired of gen 4 after completing the Pokedex in Diamond. Black/White were so good in comparison that I got over that bump pretty easy. Still the peak of the series, wish Game Freak got their shit together with the 3DS entries by now
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I got stuck in the first forest in Red because I didn't know what exits look like in the game so I assumed the part with no trees was an invisible wall. After days stuck there, I quit until a friend showed me the exit. By the time I got out I already had a chameleon and the first gym was pretty easy desu
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>>383165442
That's not getting stuck. That's you being too retarded to progress in the game.
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>>383155392
Maybe this will cover it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H_ocs-dlUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbbS_XwRj34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3uyac6tIug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8sTGne04ds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rbS-l1SHgc
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>>383164852
I would move Platinum to the Master Ball tier, it's at least as good as BW2.
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>>383159526
What if you don't have any poke balls?
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There's no worse feeling than spending ages trying to figure out what to do in the Ilex forest with that fucking shrine

To figure out years later that you're supposed to get an event that you wouldn't get anyways because you were europoor
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>>383165337
Not to mention the physical/special split. It's the only mon game I regret getting past its prime. Still had a blast with it though.
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>>383162854
You can fight wild meowth that have payday I believe
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>>383165547
By that logic, the simple fact that the rewritten music in the remakes is objectively worse elevated the original miles above.
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>>383166269
You can unlock the original soundtrack if you're autistic about this.
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>>383160742
then how do you get to the island in the first place?
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>>383166339
what? do tell.
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>>383165138
gen 1 had four games in japan, negro.
Red, Green, Blue (remake) and Yellow (enhanced)
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>>383166429
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/GB_Sounds
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>>383161529
just go in front of him after defeeting the last one. he walks down far enough for you to enter the item bush area. saving and reloading might reset his position - locking you in if you dont have cut, fly or teleport.
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>>383155392
I believe in Platinum there's an island with a foreign guy on that asks for a Magikarp trade. I'm sure you can see how that could go wrong
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>>383166634
>after obtaining all 16 badges
nah, that don't work for me.
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>>383166583
They didn't do that kind of shit in the west though

And never again in japan afterwards either.
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>>383164852
>X/Y above anything
>B/W that low
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>>383155392
Here you go anon
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VGlZu2hoAiE
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>>383166172
I guess my defenition of stuck in a video game is wrong then.
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>>383159707
That's interesting. So, if you've beat every available trainer and have no items to sell, the only way to get money is Pay Day, and apparently meowth doesn't exist in Red. So if you can't go into the safari, you can't get surf.
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>>383166429
im playing a rom hack of fire red that makes it a remake of gold/silver. either you get a pokegear insert at goldenrod for the classic music, or its an option from the start. i know thats kind of unrelated, but if you want an updated gold/silver with the old music, thats the way to go
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>>383166634
2 problems:

1. You have to complete pretty much most of the game to get that.
2. It doesn't really sound like the original. It's more like converted midis. It sounds different overall.

New music doesn't sound that bad anyhow, but it'd be nice if there was some sort of romhack that included a more accurate thing. Or at least make it more accessible, although that's easy with gameshark.
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>>383167150
I heard it has never been actually finished.
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>>383167150
its called liquid crystal, btw
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>>383166634
I was so disappointed when I got this piece of shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MiUBgyeyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVp2bWLadFY
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>>383162152
You dont get cut until the ss ann, which is after cerulean
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>>383167301
yeah i guess on the liquid crystal website it says 99% complete. you should see what isnt finished though, it very well could be very minor details
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I still don't understand why everyone loves HGSS so much. Imo it's a good game, but nowhere near the fun I've had with Platinum or BW2. HGSS is just so dragged out until halfway through, every time I want to replay it I'm reminded of how long it takes to get going.
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>>383167472
Be grateful you sack of shit.
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>>383165589

that the puzzles cant be hard because they are meant to be solved by little kids. So asking: "can you get stuck on a pokemon game" is plain stupid if you are older than 12 because the only way you can get stuck if you are more stupid than a 12 years old kid. But i wouldnt be surprised with the average v-tard intelligence.

Also JRPGs are the easiest genre of videogames in existence.
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>tfw started to enjoy the games less when I learned about EVs, IVs and natures
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>>383167969
you have terrible reading comprehension.
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>>383167969
We're not talking about being unable to continue due to the difficulty of battles or puzzles.

We're talking about hypothetical situations where a player can hit a softlock.
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>>383167775
>need to complete 99% of the game to get it
>not faithful to the actual chiptunes
No. HGSS had a lot of nice additions but the GB Sounds sucked ass. ORAS and FRLG not having anything similar doesn't make it any less shit.
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>>383167969

woosh
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Why did they remove the option to cut the tall grass after gen 3? Not that it was super useful or anything but why just remove an option after three gens?
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>>383159669
>>383157569
What about trading away your HM pokemon?
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>>383168718
can't trade mons that know hm moves
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>>383168572
Must have been that they couldn't carry the code over and didn't include it because it was a pointless waste of time that nobody ever did.
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>>383169412
>mass replying
kys autist
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>>383169412
OMG GUYS LOOK HOW ELITE I AM
SUCH A 4CHANNEL VETERAN
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>>383169412
autism
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>>383168156
Same. I try to not let it bother me but it's just so annoying knowing that the pokemon you caught is doing shit and that if you went out and got a "correct" one the game would be going better.
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>>383155392

In Gen 1, there's an area on the way to Bill's house where you can lure a Trainer out from an area that is blocked off by a tree that you can cut down. If you walk into the area (before getting Cut), then save and reboot your game, the trainer will return to his original position, and you won't be able to get out. You're outside, so Escape Ropes don't work. Theoretically, an Abra with Teleport could get you out, I suppose.
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>>383168156
>minmaxing a child's game
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>>383170509

Good fucking luck clearing out postgame battle facilities without minmaxing your ass off.
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>>383168156
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>>383168572
Pokemon uses blocks, which in gen 1/2 were 4x4 tiles big (or 2 steps tall, 2 steps wide), then they became 1x1 in gen 3 onward, making cutting grass even more tedious if done one tile at a time, or tough to code otherwise AKA waste of resources
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>>383170509
>he hasn't tried battle tower
Stay innocent sweet child
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>>383155392
If you fight every trainer up until the part where you need to buy a drink for the guard, and spend all of your money without ever buying a drink, you can't progress
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>>383170723
>>383171353
is there a point to those things?
yeah, thought not
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>>383159707
Only in R/B. In Yellow, the Safari Zone will let you in with 1-29 balls based on how much money you have, and 1 ball if you have no money at all. But only if you talk to the guard a few times. It sounds like bullshit, I know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM9lRcEZ3Ig
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>>383171617
t. scrub who gave up.
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>>383171617

Is there a point to video games at all?
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>>383155392
Yes, on Cinnabar island.
It was extremely common for a rented Pokemon game from Blockbuster to be saved in the infamous "stuck" position on Cinnabar island when you turned it on, as kids were fucking assholes.
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>>383172254
You are supposed to start a new game anyways.
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>>383172254
>t was extremely common for a rented Pokemon game from Blockbuster to be saved in the infamous "stuck" position on Cinnabar island when you turned it on
Why would you even be continuing and not making a new game
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>>383155392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8sTGne04ds

Not 100% but without getting another external game involved your fucked.
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>>383172370
>>383172382
>Not checking the save files on your rentals to see how other players fared.
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>>383172614
I was never stupid enough to rent an rpg
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>>383168156
>>383170328
>>383170509
>>383171034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7PceUl5Py8

>tfw online will never be fun because of these guys
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>>383172842
>dorkly short that's strawmanning people who actually dare put effort into their games
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>>383172821
>RPGs are the only games with save files.
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>>383172821
>>383172614
I always think it would be kinda neat if the rentals were different people playing the same save file. Though it most likely possible it won't be the case.
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>>383169664
He's completely retarded too. /v/ in 2007 used to be have like Pokemon threads up at any given time filled with actual discussion. A breath of fresh air compared to the constant PS3 vs 360 console war threads that shit up the board. In fact Diamond and Pearl were what brought me here in the first place, where I fell in love with a board.

Now this place is utter trash filled with retarded normalfags and white trash, but whatever.
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What are the best pokemon fangame/imitations?
I've already played Puppet Performance.
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>>383173051
Found the EVfag
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>>383159080
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wasn't there a gen 3 trick house boulder puzzle that you could get game over on
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>>383155392

You can "game over" every game, every games method is different.

Go into youtube and look up game overs for each pokemon version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3uyac6tIug

For example.
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>>383172614
I remember getting a used copy of Pearl from Gamestop, but at home I noticed it was Platinum

Went back the next day to change it, and I still regret not checking the safe file to this day
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>>383169412
>July
>half over
Hello summer.
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>>383174083
>trading Plat for Pearl
Oh shit nigger, what did you do?
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>>383159698
This is the face of the devil
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>>383174257
When do you think school starts? Faggot
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>>383174991
what prevents the slowbro from running out of PP?
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>>383175268
A berry
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>>383175246
Summer is June 21st to September 21st, stupid cunt
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>>383174991
>waiting 2000 turns before deciding it's not worth it
I'd like to know what his train of thought was.
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>>383175268
A leppa berry


That it gets back by using recycle

once funbro starts his fun you're cucked for life.
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>>383175268
>Eat berry to recover PP
>Use Recycle to recover the berry
>The ride never ends.
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>>383175268
Leppa Berry & Recycle.
Leppa Berry restores PP, Recycle gives you your berry back.
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>>383163415
Pokemon Colosseum
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>>383174991
>>383175363
Who won?
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>>383175363

There is some AAA class autism on Showdown.
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>>383176140
>using Volcafaggot
Good.
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>>383171474
can't you catch a meowth and use payday to farm money?
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>>383175803
Funbro.
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>>383176312
Not if you have no pokéballs.
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>>383176308
It's Randoms, he didn't have a choice on what his Pokemon would be.
OH MY GOD KILL was just an absurdly salty faggot that he lost in what's usually a heavily-RNG based game mode.
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how many indian elephants can your favorite pokemon strike down /v/?
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>>383175357
How new are you? Any negative connotations about summer is directed at the kiddies who swarm this place when they are off of school. Nobody cares about the actual summer season.
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>>383176140
>being upset that a Pokemon that takes x4 damage from Rock gets oneshot by a Rock move from a Rock Pokemon
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>>383174578
Already had Diamond and Plat, so no need for a second copy
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>>383176140
I remember the night I read this whole thing. Obviously OH MY GOD KILL was frighteningly autistic but I don't really think the other guys did a good job of shutting him down. Just typing "lmao" and leaving would've done the job.
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>>383164852
ftfy
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>>383176947
SM are NOT better than XY. I know XY were subpar, but stop deluding yourself into thinking SM are better just because you're desperately wishing for a good game. It's time for the honeymoon phase to end.
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>>383164852
Switch Great ball and Pokeball and I'd agree.
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>>383177076
>gen6 faggot still this mad
SM were far better than that fucking snorefest.
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>>383176947
ftfyfy
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>>383168156
I enjoyed the game a lot more. Versus is really deep and full of variety across all the formats official and unofficial. Just don't go in pretending your in-game team is going to be competition worthy.
I actually miss the old days of early X/Y where hacks were limited so most people were actually making their mons legit.
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>>383176947
>SM
>worthy of a Poke Ball let alone a Great Ball
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHA nice one
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>>383169412
I know right? How dare people discuss video games on /v/
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>>383176140
>oh my god kill
Post more.
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>>383171201
Yeah, tough to code for Gamefreak maybe.
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>>383177267
>>383177076
SM at least had fun characters and stellar Pokémon designs and nice convenient gameplay changes that people have wanted for awhile. It's a fine kid's game quit acting like the franchise has always been anything more than it is.
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>>383177076
XY had great online but I enjoyed SM's singleplayer a lot more. No gift pokemon with megastones and the gen's gimmick is a one use powermove instead of a vast boost for a pokemon for as long as it stays alive.
Also the new Pokemon in 7>new pokemon in 6.
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>>383177534
I definitely cared more about SM characters than the forced group of homosexuals from XY
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>>383177358
>Charizard isn't affected by Stealth rock -.-
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>>383155392
I couldn't get past the ice cave sliding puzzle in Gold thing as a kid. I restarted the game several times and played up til that point, until my father printed me off a walkthrough just for that.
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>>383177534
>fun characters
But who? Autism girl aka blank sheet? Annoying companion """friend"""? I honestly can't think of any other characters
>nice convenient gameplay changes
That's debatable but okay, your opionion
>stellar Pokémon designs
no

It felt 10x more like playing on rails than any other Pokemon game has ever before. The region is piss small and there's nothing to explore. With the other games it feels like there are so many secret routes to find and fight through.
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>>383178117
If the intention was for your character moving to Alola to be a thin veil for "your character is on a tour spanning all of Alola," they did a fantastic fucking job.
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>>383178117
Not him and the game was pretty average, but the Pokemon designs were great. Some of the most creative stuff in years and they explored a lot of interesting species not commonly represented in fictitious monster media overall.
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>>383177534
No the characters in SM are just as dumb as in XY. Even though the writing is equally bad, the characters in SM are worse on account of being more prominent.

Pokemon designs are also the worst yet. Fucking awful starters, Ultra Beasts are the worst idea to ever disgrace this franchise, too much waifu shit ruining cool Pokemon like Salandit. LITERALLY the only good Pokemon to come out of Gen 7 are Oranguru and Wishiwashi.
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>>383155392
In gen 2 you could trade away a pokemon holding the surf hm, before having taught it to anyone
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>>383178353
Yeah I guess that comes down to personal preference in the end, but after going back to gen 6 there was not a single SM mon that I missed or would've wanted to play in comp with. I didn't like any of them design wise.
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>>383178691
Really? Not even stuff like Golisopod? Buzzwole? Wishiwashi? They had far more creative stuff than the previous gen.
XY felt super forgettable in the Pokemon designs aside from the water Pokemon. They squandered the new type they had horribly on bland stereotype fairies. Part of it is my inner bugfag, since XY had next to jack shit in terms of bugs (really? another lepidopteran?).
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>>383178517
What a shit taste
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>>383178517
*best idea to ever grace the franchise
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>>383179405
Shut the fuck up you fucking retarded faggot. You deserve to have your spine surgically removed and be hung with it.
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>>383179573
Ah, touched a nerve? Don't worry honey.
I feel bad for you that you can't appreciate designs this good.
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>No one mentioned the ditto trick
Back in the day if you had two dittos fight each other you'd just be stuck in an endless transform loop. That's why no trainers have dittos anymore.
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>>383178517
I really want to know how Unno is going to save Ultra Beasts.
Still envy his job though. Imagine when you're the guy who gets deferred to when an atrocity needs to be reigned in.
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>>383173198
4chan fell the fuck off a decade or so ago. its been known.
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>>383180221
They just need to be retconned out.
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>>383179573
calm down
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>>383180221
>save
There's nothing to save, they're just some alien sublegendaries. Nothing really wrong with them. It'd be like saying someone needs to "fix" any other sublegend group.
What he needs to save is the short length and stuff to do.
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>>383180410
Or they can just not have the UBs appear in the anime at all and save them for a Hoopa-style Clusterfuck with the Alola Legendaries and a Gen 8 Mythical.
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>>383180410
>retconning a species
Never going to happen. The moment they do that it means that they pretty much opened the gates on removing species. How would you feel if they retconned Heatran or something? It doesn't matter what you think of them, they can't delete species.
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>>383180410
>GameFreak
>retconning anything

They can't even be assed to change the shitty eeveelution methods to stones when every single one has a viable stone to use now. You think they'd start ripping out Pokemon?
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>>383180043
Didn't they fix that later on?
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>>383180043
same thing happens with wobbuffet
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>>383180820
Nah, wobbuffet eventually runs out of moves. Transform just keeps you getting the new set of 5 pp for transforming into the enemy ditto.
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>>383180221
I dunno why you can't just ignore them if you hate them so much. There's nothing inherently bad about the designs themselves and you have over 700 other ones to choose from.
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>>383180981
As of Generation 2, Ditto can't end up engaging in endless Transform Wars anymore since you can't transform into something that's also transformed.
In fact, there's an NPC in Poni Gauntlet in SM who uses one.
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>>383169412
Go back
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>>383169412
What the fuck? People discussing videogames is now summer?
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>>383156940
wrong you could just take one step in the gras save and repeat, if you get in a battle you reset the gameboy
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>>383181203
No shitty sherlog, I said that
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>>383172614
You can still check the team even you are stuck.
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>>383177358
>Just EV train it in defense and special defense and it can survive stealth rock easily ...
Its like they are pretending to be retarded but they are not.
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