ZELDA >Hard mode is DLC. HORIZON >Ultra Hard gets added

>>383155307
lol both games are trash but at least Horizon is doing their fucking hard mode free.

>>383155307
Zelda's hard mode is supposed to be played after the main quest though. You're supposed to know all the main tricks specially considering end game mobs appear in the first areas. It doesn't just increase hp and damage and it also doesn't decrease fucking drop rates like fucking Horizon.
Still, this is bait so kys.

>>383155307
>not to mention NG+.
What's NG+ difference?
Just new game with your previous upgrades intact and enemy HPx5?

>>383155838
>It doesn't just increase hp and damage
You forgot to mention after that what else it does, instead of bitching about other game.

>>383155851
Pretty much. And some ng+ only cosmetics and weapons. I dont think theres much of a point for ng+in this game since the story can only go one way and theres no branching side paths either.

>>383156000
And why should I spoonfeed you information you can get with a quick google search? Also I did mention enemy locations being very different already, that's just one thing.
I'm not even bitching about Horizon, its a really cool game. But the hard mode in Horizon is very lazy compared to Zelda's.

>>383155307
ZELDA
>Game is good for free

HORIZON
>Game still sucks after DLC

>>383155307
Also the main girl in Horizon is more attractive than the one in BotW, which is rare for a Western game.

>>383156554
link is better female than that semen orc

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>>383155307
Zelda's Hard mode
>Changes most enemy ranks
>Adds a new top rank monster type: Gold
>Adds an HP regeneration mechanic to enemies
>Tweaks enemy sensory awareness
>Modifications to some enemy AI
>Floating platforms with treasure and enemies placed all over the world to re-incentivize and freshen up exploration a little
>Cost of the Hard mode DLC also includes a 50 Floor Dungeon that enhances the Master Sword, a new temporary fast travel system and several sets of armor and the entire second DLC which includes new story content and another dungeon.


You're baiting for consolewars. I'm excited for the update to HZD too, but you're being stupid. What all changes in Ultra Hard? I'm interested but not sure if it's worth it to bother.

>>383155838
>It doesn't just increase hp and damage
it does

>>383156330
>for free

Black perchance?

>>383155838
Dude, shut up. Zelda's not difficult. I'd play that shit from the start.

I've beaten shit like The Evil Within on AKUMU and World at War on whatever the highest setting was. I always play on the highest setting.

I'm actually reluctant to do NG+ Ultra Hard on Horizon 'cause I'm afraid it won't be hard enough. I'm just barely resisting the urge to start Ultra Hard on a new file.

>>383155307
gotta work harder and give more when your game is sitting in last place :/

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>>383155307
DELETE THIS YOU FUCKING SONYGGER

>>383156808
>>Tweaks enemy sensory awareness
Here, I'll translate the marketer buzzwords: it gives enemies bigger field of vision

Why do people feel the need to fight online wars for these games? They're fucking video games. Why are you doing battle for a fucking video game company?

>>383155307
are you making this thread everyday?

get a life

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Nintendo Babbys always lose

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>>383156180
Dude, really? Now I'm fuckin' hyped. Fresh cosmetics sounds great.

I know you don't give a fuck, but you can make Aloy do different shit. It's got that Mass Effect 1/2/3 dialogue bullshit.

>>383156284
So you don't know?

>>383156985
>Dude, shut up. Zelda's not difficult. I'd play that shit from the start.
You're in for a rude fucking awakening.
> I always play on the highest setting.
Yeah. I know. You're going to die a LOT before you earn your skills. I'm just as "hardcore" as you think you are and I die regularly in hard mode. I can't even pass floor 10 of the Trial of the Sword.

>>383157081
>Bigger FoV
>More acute hearing
>Able to discern targets much more quickly. the little awareness meter fills much faster

Get over yourself.

>>383157153
fight for their honor is funnier than play the actual game,

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>>383156330
1. You didn't play HZD

2. DLC isn't out yet

>>383155307
Is Zelda hard mode worth it? Did they add any enemies?

>>383157153
My mom only buys me one console every 5 years and i need to defend it at all costs

Does this mean aloy does it for free?

>>383156743
Wasn't talking about Link, though it's pretty sad that Zelda is more SJW by /v/'s definition than Horizon.

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>>383155307

ZELDA

>People pay money for it because the gameplay is good

HORIZON

>Nobody spends a penny on it because the gameplay sucks

FTFY

>>383156743
All Nintendo fans are fags. They all jack it to gay Link. That's what I understand from reading /v/, anyways. Still looking for the one straight LoZ fan.

>>383157274
>the little awareness meter fills much faster
then why not just say that instead of adding all the fluffy language that makes it sound more impressive

>>383157470
Gold Lynel/Lizalfos/Moblin/Bokoblin. All monsters ranked up +1 to begin with, meaning there's NO base level enemies and the overworld is entirely blue and better to begin with.

>>383157578
>>>/pol/

>ultra hard
>ng+ keep all your shit
>ultra hard
hehehehe

>>383157470
>Did they add any enemies?
nope

>>383157220
Ok settle your hype. The cosmetics are some facepaint and some headpiece colors that you only unlock after beating new game plus on one of the harder difficulties. And the """new""" weapons and gear look and act exactly the same as the highest versions that are already in the game but with one more mod slot.
Yea theres the say different things in diolauge stuff, but none of that changes what happens in the game. Im saying all this shit as someone who loves the fucking shit out of this game. Im just not retarded enough to say everythings amazing all the time.

>>383157630
Because I'm not an ape and enjoy using language to it's fullest. The awareness meter is a game abstraction to represent the creature's ability to discern whether or not it's looking at an enemy or not.

>>383155307
Why can't Horizon fans make threads to discuss the game without bringing up Zelda? You're never going to enjoy the game if you continue to wear it around your neck like an albatross.

>>383157634
inflating their HP doesn't make them new enemies.

>>383157705
If you can't do it fresh I'll be pissed.

>>383157850

Different movesets and weapons.

>>383157759
I was going to play it anyways, gaylord. Seeing that there's new shit is cool.

>>383157789
Every legit HZD thread gets shitposted to death by Nintendo fans.

>>383157973
>Different movesets
elaborate

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>>383157739
>>383157470

They added gold-enemies

every enemy type gets bumped up a class, red bokoblins become blue, blue becomes silver, silver becomes gold.

>>383157850
They have some new attacks and presumably maxed out AI. You don't understand how enemy ranks work in BotW, but it's actually pretty complex. It's less apparent on Lynels and the like, but basic Bokoblins and Moblins show increased levels of AI intelligence as they rank up.

Just one example of many:
>Red Boko
Probably ignores most of your bombs if it's in combat
>Blue Boko
Is aware of bombs but doesn't really worry about them. Sometimes will kick a bomb away or avoid, but not often
>Black Boko
Scared of bombs. Often completely diverts pathfinding to avoid blast radius and will frequently attempt to kick bombs away from itself and others and even towards you.

>>383158210

No, fuck off.

>>383158213
>>383157850

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>>383158210

they resort to chucking explosives at you immediately for one, there's a low chance of this happening in at regular difficulty.

>>383158286
Thanks for confirming you can't back up your claim kek

>>383158229
And what does gold do differently from the others?

>>383155307
it's ok when nintendo does it

>>383158745
I'm a Sony faggot and this picture amuses me.

>>383158805
As someone who plays on the highest setting, I'd never buy Breath of the Wild. Locking the highest setting behind a paywall is fucking heinous.

>>383158694
I haven't fought any yet. It's common knowledge that they have some unique attacks and I'm sure they basically have maximum intelligence and prioritization like this guys said:>>383158383

>>383158745
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DON'T MAKE FUN OF MY GAME

>>383155307
kek is this rivalry really still going? /v/ just can't let things go

>>383155307
Why can't you people discuss your game without bringing up Zelda every single time?
obsessed

>>383158952
cmon it's just a few dollars, pay for it please

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>>383156985
>Shut up
>I ALWAYS play on the highest settings

>>383159223
this

>>383157769
>puffery
So you like shilling. Good to know.

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>>383158745
Oh look. It's the butthurt BotW fan again. Still mad that not everyone loves your 10/10 best Zelda game of all time?

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>>383159524
>speaking in full sentences and without buzzwords is shilling

>>383159371
Magic is fucking awful. I bet you smell like ass due to never showering.

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>GUYS WHAT'S BETTER THE VITA OR THE ANYTHING MADE BY NINTENDO?

>I THINK THE VITA IS BETTER BECAUSE FUCK NINTENDO FOR NOT PUTTING GTAV ON THE WII

>>383159223
Legit Horizon threads get shitposted to death by Nintendo fans every single time.

>>383159714

what does a card game you play with friends have to do with not showering?

>>383159806
Completely false. Prove your claims or fuck off.
Also nice mature attitude "they shitpost our threads so we make shitpost threads".

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>>383159806
>Legit Horizon threads
Tipitty topitty kek

>>383159806
>i-i didn't bring it up! they did!
>i-i didn't steal the cookies! they fell in my mouth!

>tfw you feel like the only idort in the world
Guys. Both games are fun. BotW is better, bit HZD is still great.

>>383159806
Don't be stupid.

It's /pol/ that ruins HZd threads with "muh SJW" bogeymen.

Zelda
>Still a better game

Horizon
>Shit

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>>383159962

What country are these sales figures from? Bongistan?

>>383160163
yes

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>>383159938
le kys
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/subject/HORIZON/

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>>383156808
>Changes most enemy ranks
So just HP and Damage bloat. Could have just said it like it is.

>Adds a new top rank monster type: Gold
More HP and Damage bloat

>Adds an HP regeneration mechanic to enemies
Artificially bloat HP even more if the enemy fucks about or if a Lizalfos hides in the water. Wow, great game design

>Tweaks enemy sensory awareness
fills up a meter faster than before, oh boy.

>Modifications to some enemy AI
Not seen this in the slightest. Everything still sits for 3 seconds, attacks, rinse repeat

>Floating platforms with treasure and enemies placed all over the world to re-incentivize and freshen up exploration a little
this is the laziest attempt at "freshening up" I've ever seen. At least OoT master quest LoZ Quest 2 (which was part of base game btw) bothered to redo dungeon design and orders.

>Cost of the Hard mode DLC also includes a 50 Floor Dungeon that enhances the Master Sword, a new temporary fast travel system and several sets of armor and the entire second DLC which includes new story content and another dungeon.
This is the only legit thing, but for the cost it's pointless. Even then it's still just rehashed enemies in square rooms over and over. Other games provide WAY more for much less.

So basically you made a bunch of greentext that could easily be summed up as
>HP Bloat
>Damage Bloat
>50 Square rooms of the same fights you've done hundreds of times over

Anon, stop shilling, we get it. You have buyer's remorse.

>>383159920
Walk into a hobby store on Friday at like 8:30 PM. Trust me. Just do it. Walk between the tables and just breathe it in.

>>383155307
Zelda
>game is good

Horizon
>game is bad

Understand?

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>>383159704
>marketing a game
The problem is that all your doing is bullshitting. You can say what it is far more effectively. Buzzwords or not, the DLC is lazy. You can puff it up all you want. Oh look, I can make full sentences too. The only difference is I'm not selling another companies product for them.
See >>383160303

>>383160463
You didn't play HZD, though.

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>>383160336

Does anyone have the webms of Horizon and how firing explosives into water doesn't cause so much as a ripple?

That would settle this thread once and for all. The overworld is completely static, you can't interact with it.

>>383159805
you alright there champ?

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>>383159962

>>383160649
>The problem is that all your doing is bullshitting.
No. I'm explaining the features without resorting to oversimplification and bizzwords.

I'm a full cut above your average /v/ shitstain and you can't tolerate it. That or you're a second level troll, because you directed me to a post that's quite obvious bait. I mean seriously, Buyer's Remorse? Not even worth a reply.

>>383160719
You're firing shit from a bow, dude. You expect the water to explode?

Now I wanna check the machine cannons, though. That'd be an oversight.

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>>383160830

>>383160975
Bow or sling*

>>383160303
fucking kek. I can't. this can't be a real post

>>383157759
>facepaint

Fucking finally. All I wanted was fucking facepaint.

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>>383157274
>>383157274
Dying is not the same as Difficulty. BotW's open-ended design means that there are very few actual objectives. Death doesn't stop you from doing anything, and the camera killed me more than anything.
Does Hard/Master Mode add enemies to Divine Beasts? Does it add enemy patrols instead of MMO trash mobs with 10ft vision cones? Does it add a purpose to killing enemies? Does it disable the obnoxious autosave? Does it disable flurry rush? Does it add movesets to enemies so you can't briskly walk circles around them as they grunt and pose?Does it fix the A.I. so enemy archers don't completely forget about you the moment you step out of their vision for 5 seconds? Does Does it make the puzzles not for infants? Does it give Dark Beast Ganon the ability to be a boss fight instead of an interactive cutscene?

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>>383160673
Of course not, I only play good games.

>>383160975
>Bow
>When is clearly a sniper rifle

>>383161008
nah, the score for arms was deserved. the thing is the problem reviewers had with the game was the lack of content. not the actual content itself. It's certainly fun but needs more content. It deserves that score only because it launched as a skeleton

>>383161192
>Hard mode should fix all my petty retarded complaints about the game

Look. It could have done more to toughen the game up, but you're -literally- a contrarian idiot if you can't accept that it DOES make the game A LOT harder. Go play Trial of the Sword on Master Mode and get back to me. Go do it. Tough guy.

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>>383161198
Yes we know Skyward Sword is better than Horizon

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>>383161428
same score as andromeda kek

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>>383159806
Oh give it a rest Horizon-kun, you brought this upon yourself

>play Horizon
>play BotW
>have fun with both games
>they're similar but different
>excel in different ways
I must be a fucking unicorn. Nothing wrong with some friendly rivalry, but to think either game is bad out of some misguided loyalty or grudge is pure cancer on gaming.

>>383161527
yeah, both games suffered from company oversight. I guarantee both andromeda and arms would have scored at least 8 points higher each if andromeda hadn't launched with bugs and arms hadn't launched with so little content

>>383159681
Yep, it's me, the one guy on /v/ who likes the newest Zelda game.

>>383155307
Probably because Horizon, unlike botw, is so easy putting the hard mode as paid dlc would be a joke.

>>383160303

10/10 post

>>383161746
ARMS thought it could be Splatoon. ARMS was woefully misinformed.

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>>383161465
>Combat
>Enemy A.I.
>Dungeon Layout
>World Design/Layout
>Puzzle Design
>>Petty Complaints
Can you give me an example of something I can complain about?
And for the record; No, that was stuff that should've been addressed before the game released.

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>>383155307
ZELDA
>Everybody who actually likes the game is too busy playing it or having a life outside of video games to post

HORIZON
>One Sony employee in a back closet somewhere at headquarters trying desperately to convince people to play their game

>>383162007
They're nitpicks that revolve around your ego and expectations. You're unwilling to let the game do it's own thing and instead just bitch and moan.

It's a very immature thing to do. I have to remind myself how young most of the people I'm talking to here are. You'll grow up eventually. Teenagers love to think they know better than everybody and should have their personal preferences catered to at all times.

>>383161919
Nah, I don't think nintendo were aiming for splatoon levels when launching arms. otherwise they'd be supporting it a bit more. Maybe they'll get their shit together after splatoon launches

>>383160303
This is completely correct and drones will not respond to it other than "T-this is b-bait!".

>>383161876
>Zelda is difficult.

You're joking, right? Surely nobody is this stupid.

>>383162153
>Everybody who actually likes the game is too busy playing it or having a life outside of video games to post
This is what Nintenbros actually believe.
Usually people who post Wario are really cool. Why did you break the chain?

>>383162249
But they were!

They even teased that it could receive Splatoon style continued support if it was a hit. It was basically "Nintendo does a popular multiplayer genre with a new IP: Volume 2"

>>383162249
I remember toddlers were calling Arms "the next Splatoon" pre-release, now we're backpedalling to "I don't think it was meant to be that popular"?
Kek this is rich

Horizion was forced to do that since no one is paying any attention to it.

>>383162282
>H-how can I enjoy a game when the rooms are square? Square rooms!

>>383161919
Fightan game is a dead genre anyways

>>383162153

It always seems like this.

Sony fans are like screaming at the top of their lungs that their game is better and Nintendo fans are like "I disagree but OK" and this somehow pisses the Sonybro shills off to no end.

I own both a Nintendo and Sony consoles, I use my PS4 for mostly multiplats, and my Nintendo consoles for the couch multiplayer, and big exclusives.

Sony doesn't do well with games that have long development cycles, just look at The Last Guardian. Nintendo generally delivers quality with large dev cycles pretty reliably.

>>383162220
Nintenbro fucking kill yourself. His critique is NOT nitpicks. They're huge gameplay flaws that both undermine the entire game, and especially trivialize the entire open world with its worthless mobs of retarded enemies. I will add to his grievances: the shrines are way too disconnected from the overworld, none are well integrated naturally integrated into things like caves or hills or natural things like that, and the loading screens, unskippable cutscenes for grabbing your reward, and actually entering the the shrines make the shrines take way too fucking long for unskippable waiting and make the shrines feel like an entirely separate fucking game.

Quit sucking cock you fanboy fucking retard.

>>383162551
I know people were saying it was splatoon all over again but anyone with any knowledge of the market would know that fighting games don't sell as much as shooters so why would nintendo's analysts assume otherwise? not to mention it's a new IP and splatoon has already proven itself. I think they mentioned the "splatoon style support" as a way of explaing how the game will receive updates in terms people were already familiar with

>>383162220
The game wasn't my jam, and the aforementioned was why. If it was difficult to you, that's fine. It wasn't to me, nor was it particularly satisfying either.
Better luck next time, I suppose.

>>383162839
>ARMS
>Mortal Kombat
>DBZ
>Injustice
>Street Fighter
>Pokken

It's doing fine.

>>383162858
Source: your ass.

>>383163021
arms isn't a fighting game

>>383163345
HERE WE GO AGAIN

>>383155307

yes we know Nintenbros are retarded.

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ZELDA
>Game is doing very well so naturally they tap into the profit potential to make even more money

HZD
>Game is doing dreadful so they give free shit to attempt to revive interest in the game and try to be able to even reach the level of being able to safely release paid DLC

>>383162858
>fanboy toddler resorts to "le idort" argument when his game gets exposed as a heaping pile of shit
Lel enjoy your fidget spinner cuck.

>>383162987
It wasn't the jam of anyone with half a braincell. You're not alone, Blow of the Whore killed the series credibility.

>>383163021
>all of them bombed horribly
Lol whatever helps you sleep at night

>>383163416
kek mad as fuck

>>383163596
I"M SOOOOOOOO PISSSSSSSEEEEDDDDD UUUURRRRRGGHHHHH RREEEEEEEEEEEE AIDOUABDAVBDBADLBAKDaKDABOVKDA

>>383155307
ZELDA
>game is actually good so playing hard mode is not a chore
HORIZON
>wait I don't know this game

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>>383162249
>tfw to intelligent to release a successful game

>>383163770
this can't be real, can it? neogaf can't out-cancer /v/. what universe is this?

>>383163537
>Game is doing dreadful
>tfw zelda bois now literally make shit up to defend their costume dlc

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>>383158745
Nice marketing image! That's why Nintendo pays the big min wage bucks for you to astroturf for their hot new AAA titles!

>>383155307
you really have to pay for hard mode?

>>383164254
yeah

>>383164254
Not if you have a 4.0 Ghz CPU.

>>383164121
and I thought this place was bad. Maybe there still is hope for /v/

>>383164254
yeah, it's bullshit. thought it technically does add new content so I guess that was their reasoning. plus they probably figured anyone who was a fan would pay for the dlc regardless for the story content

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>>383164379
Hope is /v/ DLC. $19.99. Brought to you by chink moot. Christmas 2017.

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>>383163543
>He's too poor to have more than one gaming platform
Get a job you faggot

>>383164564
Even if I owned a Switch I'd avoid the game. I'm in the minority, though. Most fags here would suck cock if it meant more DLC for their favorite game.

Can't even count how many times I've heard losers say

>BBBUT IT'S ONLY COSMETIC
>YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT
>YOU CAN GET IT ALL JUST BY PLAYING THE GAME

I miss 2007. Old /v/ would hate the fuck outta nu /v/.

>>383164621
thank god. was worried I'd have too much cash

>>383164927
Yeah, it's really frustrating but what can you even do at this point. it's starting to happen to franchises I really care about. I mean, I can't just give up all the games I like. And everyone's enabling it anyway

>>383155307
>zelda
good game
>horizon
cinematic sjw shit

>>383165551
Except HZD is 90-95% gameplay. You didn't play the game before shitposting like a giant faggot.

>>383166019
and it's only 5% fun

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>delay the game TWO YEARS because the fucking Switch version

>literally increase the enemy hp and call it hard mode and sell it as dlc

Nintenbros will defend this

>>383166196
>government takes 8% of my wages
civilization cucks will defend this

>>383166459
That money can be used for national defense and infrastructure.

>>383166551
Somebody else can pay it. Not my problem. Maybe I should start selling drugs

>>383166069
Not an argument. You didn't fucking play it. I'm OP and I didn't say shit about Zelda's gameplay. All I know is the DLC plan's fucking awful.

Play shit before commenting, or at least comment on shit that's objective. If I gave you a PS4 Pro and a 55" 4K TV, you'd probably love HZD by this time next week.

ZELDA
>still a better game than horizon

>>383166761
Did you play it?

>>383155307
>Horizon fags still obsessing over Zelda
KEK

>>383166706
sorry, anon. didn't read your post. much like horizon. it wasn't interesting enough to care about

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breath of the wild
>only 3 types of enemies
>combat is kiddie manchild garbage
>graphics are shit and it looks like someone smeared Vaseline all over the place
>hard mode is sold as dlc

Horizon
>over 20 types of enemies each with unique behaviors, weaknesses and attacks
>combat requires thought and preparation depending on the machine you're hunting
>actual graphics
>hard mode AND ng+ is out for FREE
>dlc will actually be a meaty expansion with a brand new area, machines and characters unlike the Zelda DLC which charges you 20 bucks for hard mode and a few new shitty "dungeons"

Nintenbros will defend this.

>>383168092
Dude, Hard and Very Hard came with the game. Ultra Hard is free.

You gotta make that clear next time.

>>383155307
You get what you pay for.

BoTW oozes quality in every single aspect including the DLC whereas Horizon is lazily put together in order to compete with Zelda's quality hard mode.

>>383168656
Have you played HZD? :^)

>>383168656
>BoTW oozes quality in every single aspect including the DLC
I like BOTW but you'd have to be a huge fanboy to think the first DLC isn't lazy

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>>383155838

>being this much of a toddler you can't play the hardest difficulty on your first try

I swear to god i try everyday to stir away from console wars memes but boy howdy you nintendo fanboys are a fucking joke.

https://youtu.be/aVPXKdSEGNQ
Why do sony negroids pretend Horizon is even half the game Zelda is?

>>383169659
Horizon has more interactivity/gameplay than the Xenoblade games, and nintendo toddlers still praise the fuck out of those.

>>383169351
Video games are not supposed to be challenging, Nintendo designed the game as it is that is perfect for everyone to explore and to have fun and hard mode is only for the masochists who love games like dark souls and wish to hurt themselves rather than have fun.

>>383155307

>Horizon

PFFFFFTTTTHAHAHAHA You sonybros won't let it go will you. The game isn't even remotely in the same league.

>>383169779
Xenoblade is a jrpg retardo.

>>383169779
>Horizon has more interactivity/gameplay than the Xenoblade games
Well that's not a great achievement now is it? JRPGs aren't exactly known for their interactivity

>>383157316
hzd is trash. very boring combat

>>383170346
>>383170426
don't give me that shit, we had months of people saying "xenoblade X is the best open world ever made"
so what made it so fucking great?

>>383170623
>everyone is the same person
I haven't even played Xenoblade X. I honestly don't give a shit

>>383169779
>has more interactivity
What the fuck does this even mean

>>383169779
i like how we've reached the point where you're not allowed to like a game if there's another game that does it better

>>383171192
that's literally why people say horizon is bad

>>383171281
and it's still retarded

>>383160303
>This is the only legit thing, but for the cost it's pointless. Even then it's still just rehashed enemies in square rooms over and over. Other games provide WAY more for much less
You're oversimplifying the trial of the sword. It's easily the best combat arena in the game.

>>383171153
means it has hit detection, something xenoblade lacks

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>Cant win against zelda
>Better shitpost against another game thats not even the same genre
kek you sonygros never stop dont you?

>>383163537
>Game is doing dreadful
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/06/horizon-zero-dawn-has-now-sold-34-million-copies
This is the most successful new IP Sony's had

>>383170439
zelda is trash, very boring combat

Why is the camera so fucking close when you're in the towns?

Whose idea was this and why hasn't it been fixed?

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>people defending $20 for tacked-on arena mode and HP bloat hard mode LITERALLY because it's apparently okay when nintendo does it

beat BOTW, it's an 8/10
horizon's also good so far, haven't finished yet

>>383172123
it;s not the best but it's way better than hzd.

>>383172827
>very limited weapon movesets
>boring items to use
vs
>strategically removing parts off enemies
>tripping them up to expose weak spots
>using the various different ammo types to debuff/damage
>melee combat with a slow heavy attack that rewards you a critical if you can land it

idk senpai
hzd>zelda

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>>383172827
it's really not, dude. combat and story are BOTW's two biggest glaring flaws. it's a good game but those are absolutely its two weakest points.

>>383164121
>tfw your family finds out about your girl fetish

>>383173130
>strategically
lmao

>>383173346
have you played HZD, anon? a lot of enemies' components have to be exposed via CC to land hits on them.

>>383160303
Thanks for the explanation. Not that I expect any difference in HZD but at least thats free plus NG+

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>>383169849

You gone too far in the rabbit hole nigga

>>383173683
it's more of an annoyance than strategic. gets old quick.

>>383161192
>Does Hard/Master Mode add enemies to Divine Beasts
It adds a lynel to the plateau

>>383174207
Not that anon but it really sounds like you haven't played it.
You don't HAVE to do it but it is both fun and beneficial to do it.

If you have the correct build tearing off the components can be sped up etc. if you for some degenerate reason don't like to play strategically.

>>383157769
>Because I'm not an ape
Yes you are.
Humans are apes.

>>383160303
>This is the only legit thing, but for the cost it's pointless.

It's a season pass. The thing you're really paying for is the shit due in Christmas or possibly early 2018 depending on things.

>>383155307
Horizon is a better game.

>>383155838
Horizon zero dawn actually changes enemy behaviour and placement and adds new equipment.

Zelda is just lazy and they charge you for it cos theyre a bunch of greedy fucks on their last legs.

Cant wait till the older generation dies off so nintendo can finally be forgotten for good.

>harder difficulties being dlc
>"hey, at least that one is free"

Still, wrong.
Not releasing full package is bullshit. Getting excuses like "there was no time" is still bullshit in the past videogames had no problems with that

>>383174870
They announced it after hzd got released and it was given away for free in an update.

Zelda was announced before the game even got released and they charged for it.

Only one is wrong.

Isn't there also an amiibo for receiving double damage either in botw or one of the hd rereleases? Not only is it dlc locked but physical dlc locked so the price can only go up as it gets harder to find.

>>383174870
Are you retarded or just spewing bullshit out of your ass? the game has hard and very hard out of the bat.

Wow. There are people that are actually defending having to pay for a higher difficulty. I always though the "its okay because its Nintendo" had a fucking limit. but you guys will welcome Nintendo to take a shit straight into your mouths. I even saw people using this DLC as an example of how to do DLCs. Zelda is my favorite franchise, but jesus christ, take its cock out of your mouth.

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>>383155307
>sonybros will latch onto literally anything to excuse their inferior games

>>383157514
>>383157589
same fag

>>383175403
cultists aren't people, they sacrifice rationality for fanaticism

>>383174451
Every single time.

TLOU, Horizon, you just haven't played it. Don't you get it? No one played it ever.

>>383160303
retard

>>383175571
Well the thing is.. It is like complaining over your belt being too tight when you can loosen it yourself.
As if it is a bad belt just because you are using it wrong in the stupidest way possible.
What will be the next thing? Horizon is bad because the bluray disc isn't easy to eat?

>>383175217
>>383175370

I am from a timeline where Very Easy, Easy, Normal, Hard(or Difficult in some games), Very Hard, and a Crazy or Ultra Hard existed in one package, no patches, no updates, no dlcs and wasting time downloading, just in the game as unlockable after finishing the game once or even codecheats.

So yeah, I will say both are wrong. And you can say I am picky.

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>>383161527
Why use the outdated score?

>>383161652
What? Common sense? In /v/? Who the fuck are you and what are your intentions here?

>>383175887
>Developers now have higher standards of polish for game balance
hmmm

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>>383175571
>HZD sold 3.4mil
>BOTW sold 2.76 mil

>>383155307
>Ultra Hard gets added in a free fucking patch, not to mention NG+.
>this makes that DLC a good thing somehow
Kill yourself millenial scum

>>383155838
>doesn't just increase hp and damage
actually it does do just that
oh wait I forgot that they added fucking floating platforms
like that's such a big change

>>383176092
Botw over 4 million

>>383155307
>If I post it enough times, someone will care.

>>383175887
No I will say youre trying to say theyre both wrong in an attempt to make nintendos jewish practices look less jewish.

>>383169849
>video games aren't supposed to be challenging
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
you're joking, right?

>>383160303
Notice how no one in the thread has even attempted to prove this anon wrong. They know deep down that he's right.

>>383155307
ZELDA
>Is a video game

HORIZON
>Is a movie

>>383176408
>ZELDA
>is a movie
ftfy

>>383175887
>Having a shitton of difficulties means more variety and effort put into a game
You clearly haven't created a game.

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>>383176408
>horizon
>movie

nigga

>>383176217
apparently 3.84 according to ninty, hadn't thought about wii u sales.

regardless, they're both popular titles with approximately the same level of exposure, which is the point i was trying to make.

but can they patch in a better game too?

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>>383176528
Jesus christ

>>383176756
>more cutscenes=movie

xd

>>383176756
Zelda is just a shitty movie with zero effort involved. Those niggas couldnt even afford voice actors. Get the fuck outta here, this is 2017 bitch.

>>383177017
>>383177061
nice backpedaling

>>383169849
Hope to fuck this is a falseflag.

>>383177017
Then what makes it a movie? It's high interactivity and gameplay, or is it the freedom of an open world?

>>383157201
that lighting is fucking disgusting

>>383168092
>3 types of enemies
wut
>combat = manchild
wut
>graphics = vaseline
wut
damn sonybros are this retarded?

>>383173346
You're fucking retarded or just shitposting. Either way, you didn't play the game. I was playing five minutes ago.

>Deathbringer is unaware but ready to be a faggot.
>Enemy soldiers walking around.
>Snipe the soldiers.
>One left beneath me.
>Rappel down and stealth kill the fucker.
>Deathbringer gets mad and starts spraying the area with missiles.
>Try to freeze him with my pimped out War Bow.
>Shit's taking forever so I look up his weaknesses. Flame/shock.
>Burning status exposes a hidden heat core.
>Switch to my sling and throw fire bombs while dodging missiles and machine gun fire.
>Core gets exposed, but I miss my first shot. Hatch closes and I gotta wait.
>etc. etc. etc.

>>383176065
The balance of a game is something you test before releasing. Be with different difficulties or not.
And when games need patches to fix problems, then games are clearly not polished. Just released from the ass without testing them as they should, because they know they can get away with that

>>383176261
Never was a Nintendo. Only owned a NES and a DS

>>383176568
Never said that. The point was that a bunch of difficulty modes were something from the get-go, but now companies find excuses to release some of them later, one of the silly excuses is that they want the game to live a little longer so they release packs of dlc each couple of months(like Nintendo does now).
It is the same thing how people are okay with costumes being dlc, when in the past they were unlockables in game. Same how companies now release an "extra" character with a story mode 5,99, when that shit should have been an unlockable secret character like a reward. But no, poor companies just release new character after game is made, they totally never thought of saving those "extra" characters to make a profit later

>>383176250
Look at the number of responses. :^)

>>383179067
>I'm a proud shitposter

>>383176408
People called me a bullshitter when I said Nintendo fans spew movie bullshit about Horizon.

>>383176756
They do that for every game.

Just started to play Horizon. Should I sell those machine hearts? Or is there some other use for them? sabretooth hearth seems to sell quite good prize

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>tfw the Horizon sales slowed down to a non-existent trickle and Sony has to lowball cheap re-shill it to try and make the money back from the millions of dollars they poured into the original advertising

Please go away, you ruined the board for 2 months straight pre-release and post-release.

Tell Sony it's not going to be their next fucking Uncharted while you're at it.

>>383178681
adding a difficulty doesn't mean the rest of them weren't polished.