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>horrible linear story
>shit shallow battle system
>terrible characters
>forgettable music.

Anything else I'm missing? Play persona 5 instead. It has none of the complaints I listed. P5 has an amazing battle system that's turn based, great sprawling dungeons, an amazing story that's deep with reason and emotions, and an amazing musical number that's unforgettable
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>>383146346
No the game was edgelord trash. Velvet was an awful unjustifyable protagonist and the only character that had any reason to actually stick around was laphi. The others were put there to pad the character count and the story was built around rhat.
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>>383147675
100% agreed that's why you should just play persona 5
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lmfao
Nier >= Yakuza 0 >>> ToB > Ubishit > P5
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>>383146346
>Persona 5
>Amazing battle system
Just play smt bro
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But muh stinky witch armpits
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>>383148346
Half of those aren't even jrpgs,
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>>383146346
Does it have /ss/ and incest? No? Checkmate personafag
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>>383148468

B-B-But my social links!
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>>383148624
It's the big Playstation Japanese wave this year (GR2 is too small to qualify)
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>Forgettable music.
No shit, Sakuraba's practically a zombie now.
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>terrible characters

all but one
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>>383146346
personafaggot consider kys
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>>383146346
>>horrible linear story
>>shit shallow battle system
>>terrible characters
>>forgettable music.

literally every tales of game ever. this is the most interchangeable series in the history of gaming. just play one and you played them all.
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>>383149103
>all but one

Why do birds fall with style?
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>>383146346
The combat and story are decent, I wouldn't call them shit but they're nothing to be considered great by any means
the music is always forgettable in tales games, what I would give to get go shiina back
>terrible characters
see now you fucked up
the party and side characters are some of the most entertaining the series has seen in a decade
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Persona 5 has worse story and characters though. It says alot that the side waifus are better than the main waifus.
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Dyle is my nigga.
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I liked the characters, particularly Mags and Eleanor.

The combat is indeed annoying.
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>>383146346
they're both weeb trash, why don't you guys play an actual game?
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>>383149406
Even more than Neptunia or SMT?
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>>383150050
Because these are better games than something like ???? I don't even know what western game came out this month
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>>383150050
Like what?
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>>383149623
I can't agree with you there. Even if you don't follow the characters confidants they're pretty fleshed out and understandable.
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>>383150325
>>383150336
anytthing is better than weeb trash, go back and play some classics on an emulator if you can't find anything new
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>>383150575
That's what I do when I don't have weeb trash to play.
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>>383150575
But I played all the old classics. And a majority of them are also weeb shit.
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>>383150549
Its sadly true though. The main cast, particularly the girls, are pretty shallow and generic. People like them more because they are built around being endearing, which is what waifufags usually want.

That is why someone like Velvet, by comparison, gets a lot of hate. She was built as a character first, so she isn't designed to be immediately likeable, which puts more people off.
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why did tales sink to senran kagura levels
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>>383151071
Who hates velvet? She's a really good character even with her edge. I like how the game slowly drips her from completely being consumed by revenge to being compassionate and loving.
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>>383146346
>>383147675
(You)
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>>383146346
Most hated game of 2017 by far. Next to Zelda.
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>>383149449
WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD, VELVET?
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>>383152470
Low level shitpost.
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ITT: Persona fans pretend that their series isn't generic weebshit like any other out there
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>>383152924
Basically this. I thought P5 sucked, 2 and 3 were the best.
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>>383152694
It's true. Nobody with standards said they like this game.
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>>383153680
You're gonna have to show proof of that, nigger.
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Are the xillia games good
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>>383153892
Daily reminder that Velvet isn't edgy.
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>>383152924
Also the most likely to start shit with other JRPGs
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>>383146346
Persona is a glorified shitpile.
The only thing it has is waifus. And bad ones.
All I ever see about Persona is
>omg i love this game it is so me
>who is best girl
>who is best girl, party only
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>>383154318
>omg i love this game it is so me
I fucking hate these people.
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>>383153892
No
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>>383155148
Subjective.
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So are the only good Tales games Phantasia, Destiny, Eternia, Symphonia, Abyss, and Vesperia? I really wanted this series to succeed but ever since Vesperia it really seemed to go downhill.
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>>383157940
Berseria is the best tales.
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BUMP
>Also mirrored shitpost
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>>383160282
No one likes these, stop.
I usually look for tales thread but this one is just shit now, let it die.
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>terrible characters

How is this even up for debate? Berseria has the best main cast in any Tales game.
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>>383157940
>considers Eternia good
my man
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>>383146346
Agree with everything except the characters. Cast is actually decent. Shame that they're stuck in a mediocre game.
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>>383148929
ToB doesn't have it either, but pretend your fantasies are part of the game.
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>>383161024
but comparing it to other games like FFXII and FFIX, Berseria has a completely shit cast
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>/ss/ fags

It's only okay when Phi is a dragon.
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>>383146346
>Play persona 5
personafags are worse than soulsfags
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>>383154139
She's absolutely edgy during the escape from Titania/second Earthpulse.

Eizen had the right idea in trying to ditch her.
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>>383162238
>having sex with eizen
>he goes on long rants about the history of sex
This is a horrible ship.
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>>383161718
>FFIX
FFIX's cast is pretty mediocre aside from Zidane, Vivi and Steiner. Freya could have been cool but she basically stops existing after 1/3rd of the game, Garnet is a pretty standard princess and no one gives a shit about everyone else.
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>>383161179
>Great story
>Great battle system
>Best characters out of any jrpg
I can't say the ost was great though, only a few songs stand out.

ftfy
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>>383162485
>He doesn't want to go full circle and bang an autist
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>>383149575
>the music is always forgettable in tales games
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>>383162472
After what whe went through, no. It's a miracle her head didn't explode from all this bs.
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Tales music is just about the intro.

Best intro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuGXjeGMPdU
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>>383162892
some tales games have one or two good boss themes, but everything else is not all that great
please feel free to post some actually good tracks
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Why does Velvet look better than any P5 girl?
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>>383146346
>persona 5
>amazing story

Literally Codename: Kids Next Door but with Japanese high schoolers. I still liked the game more than Berseria, but don't pretend the story isn't hot garbage
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>>383162971
Legendia's ost is made by go shiina, that's why it's better.
>>383163105
Velvet > everything in any game.
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>>383162238
t.fujoshit
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>>383163105
Because despite the questionable outfit she still has the right combo of a good body, nice face and particularly great hair (ie no dumb pigtails/giant forehead/whatever Makoto's ugly hairstyle is)
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>>383163494
Probably helps that she has visible curves
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>>383163494
>unwashed and uncut hair for 10 years
>giant braid
>not stupid
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fuck you OP

Velvet fucking rules
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>>383163667
>confirmed to wash in a skit
>braid looks great
Try again. And if you really want to make her pop, give her those earrings.
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>>383163667
Why do they both have such big breasts and both have the same underboob style?
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>>383162892
Sakuraba phones it in every game. Wish they'd find someone else.

>>383162610
Even Hearts R had a better battle system. Berseria's is boring past the first hour.
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>>383164062
A better question is how come Seres's tits got so much bigger after becoming a malak? She clearly wasn't that stacked as a human.
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>>383164434
Because Arthur made her that way.
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>>383163057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZPiZEautg&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8w7l8WZp0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SASGvAmWzJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd8dbeyU1Hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQgAsvl5DbY&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YloJMBE08Ig&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZgujbU1Bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa7CO1ILUjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EGnFgsdDnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK0Z7uxuqhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOfFF_smR0&t
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>>383146346

Gotta have those fanbase wars cause reasons.
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If you like games try to find the people that aren't false flagging the crap out of this thread with their "opinions". It's probably like finding needle in a hay stack
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Every time Magilou opened her mouth i wanted to murder her in some extremely violent way.
I don't remember if i ever played in jrpg with such an obnoxious character.
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>>383164774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydIVDFgRtAY
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I'd like to see the Tales series go back to basics.

CC is cool, but I'm starting to get tired of it. I'm starting to miss the good ol' Normals > Base > Arcane arte hierarchy, normal equipment without a needlessly complex/grindy crafting system, and a fucking real world map.
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>>383146346

P5 and ToB are hardly in competition. I will play and enjoy both for what they are.
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>>383162238
Eizen can have Velvet. I'll keep Phi to myself.
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>>383165092

Magilou just likes to bait people by overacting a lol look at me i'm such a nerd xD type persona. Now, Bienfu, now THERE'S an obnoxious mother fucker. Even so sometimes he'd get this smug shit-eating expression that made me dislike him a little less until he annoyed me again by existing. Fucking animal mascot characters, fucking moogles.

I liked the cast, though. RPGs seem to keep forgetting to make the companions likable in favor of making them all forced gay trannie romances (well, wRPGs that is)
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>>383163667
Dumb faggot stop shitposting when you haven't played the game.
>>383165003
FUCK THEM
>>383165092
I liked magilou and her VA. (jp)
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>>383146346
>hey anons I know you want to play an action rpg but here play this turn based shit instead
You should be recommending Nier you dip.
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>>383164062
Because Seres is her sister that became a Seraph
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>>383163494

Velvet's outfit rules.

Everything about Velvet rules
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>>383167498
I fucking love Velvet.
i want more DLC for Berseria, why did zestiria get so many dlc and shit but we're not getting ANYTHING other than costumes?
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>>383146346
You objectively completely wrong about 2 things, the cast is great and comparing it with a turn based game doesn't make much sense.
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>>383166043
CC? It's BG now
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>>383166942
>You should be recommending Nier you dip.
I was going to post that as well, but, thinking about it again, Nier's characters, story and storytelling is pretty different from the more conventional approach of games like Berseria and Persona. Imo, the target audience of Berseria is nearer to the target audience of Persona than the Nier's one.
But, yeah, OP is fucking dumb and compared 2 completely different battle systems for no fucking reason.
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>>383169021
>target audience of Berseria is nearer to the target audience of Persona
This. I played all 3 and honestly Berseria is still my favorite game of 2017 so far. All three have different target audiences though.
>Berseria is character focused and for fans of older gen JRPGs
>Nier focuses on the world itself rather than the characters in it, also not a JRPG
>P5 gives no extra attention to characters or the world, but splits its focus between the two, for a casual JRPG audience crossed with fans of VNs
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>>383168037

Fuck yeah, you get it. you understand

Velvet is fucking awesome, one of my all-time favorite characters, I absolutely adore her
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>>383171054
>she jacks you off with that hand
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>>383171054

She is amazing
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persona 5 felt rushed w.e type of game. Berseria is nothing special though I agree on that. JRPGS in general are completely forgettable this year.
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>Complaining about how shit Tales is and not realising that the best JRPG series is already ready for you play

Xenoblade.
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>>383171250
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>>383146346
>Horrible Linear Story
>Terrible Characters
>Forgettable music

But P5 has that stuff in it aswell. Combat is better i'll give it that.
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>>383171495
Can we get ace+ to make the soundtrack of the next Tales of?
That'd be so good.
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If any of you want that same feeling you got when you played Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, oldschool FF, then honestly play Xenoblade. You'll bash it because it's on Nintendo systems. But Monolithsoft are pretty much a subsidiary of Squaresoft. You can feel the old Square magic in the Xenoblade games.
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>>383171882
>Xenoblade
oh god no. You don't get anything similar to the ones you listed.

Xenoblade was boring as fuck. MUH MONANDO!!!!
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>>383171774
ACE+ are amazing. Have you heard the Xenoblade 2 tracks? So good.
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>>383172002
Boring as fuck games don't get universally praised, anon.
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>>383171882
It's on PC with dolphin.
>>383172043
Yeah, sound amazing, too bad it's on a garbage console, I'll buy it once it's cfw'd.
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>>383172176
explain Mass Effect
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What's the best Tales game to play co-op with a buddy?
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>>383172249
Paid reviews.
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>>383172384
honestly none of them
tales co op has never been all that good
but if you had to pick one go with Abyss on PS2
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>>383168493
I'm not talking about the BG, which is for all intents and purposes is basically just a super meter.
As I see it, Souls and the SG guage is another in a line of CC derivative systems, which has been in pretty much everything since Graces.
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>>383146346
>an amazing story that's deep with reason and emotions
I agree with almost all the other points about P5 but this is a blatant lie
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>>383172975
The fishing scene was one of the best sections.
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>>383146346
just started this game dubbed because i thought vesperia's(only other tales game i played) dub was fucking great. this one's is pretty good so far, and the game seems just as good as vesperia
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>>383172384
Tales of Graces has the best co-op by far. Make sure to avoid Xillia 1 and 2, and especially avoid Zestiria. Their link systems butchered the games' co-op potential, and also Zesteria was shit.
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>haven't played games in months
>stopped playing not long after getting eleanor
>just wanted to get gud with other characters especially the lance/spear wielding cutie
>everyone else but velvet seems to control like shit
>spam velvet attacks to win every battle

Is the combat in this game truly this terrible or is it just me? I want to complete this game but the boring grind and not knowing how to use other characters as well as Velvet is crippling my urge to pick it back up
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>>383174234
Playing at harder difficulties is a necessity. The combat system is basically taken apart even on Normal.
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>>383174395
Play in hard, intense then chaos unless you're a pleb.
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>>383174537
Yeah, unlock intense ASAP. That's the bare minimum IMO.
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>>383174234

The combat is subpar. You dont even have to think about spamming Velvet's breaksoul to get through the game (post story included)

Taking away MP was a mistake.
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>>383174234
the most effective way to beat the game is just sapm arts that the enemy. are weak too. no point is chining cool arts together that flows perfectly.
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>>383175096
Play the other characters, they're fun too.
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I wanna paizuri Seres
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>>383175096
>he didn't play Eizen or Rokurou
It's like you hate fun.

Also Intense no item run is where the shit gets reaö
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>>383176274
Meant Chaos*
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>>383175860
>play as velvet
>all enemies die in seconds
>play as any other character
>battles take about 10 minutes each

I've tried, nothing seems to make combat less annoying than having a character with over powered abilities and everyone else having literally nothing. It's as if none of the other characters can actually do any damage
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>>383176438
Eizen shits out damage with his Break Soul
Rokurou makes any melee hitter useless
Magilou destroys magic users
Eleanor and Velvet are your go to Assists in any situation
Phi for support

I don't know about you but I found everyone useful
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>>383176438
Velvet doesn't have the highest damage output, and she isn't good in EVERY situations.
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>>383146346
>Play persona 5 instead
>Chad simulator

no thx bro.
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>>383176438
Other characters are fine but they didn't make the combat feel any better to me. Easily my biggest gripe with the game since there were times when I dozed off mid battle. Upping the difficulty just made battles last longer but didn't improve them.
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>>383146346
>shit shallow battle system
>he played velvet in battles
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>>383164774
>fucking full force
I know that symphonia is basically nostalgia, but that battle track has always been garbage you are forced to listen to no end.
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>>383176886
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So, did you guys switched characters a lot in the middle of the the battles, or switched character right before each part of the story?
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>>383176886
to dumb and pure for my taste.
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>>383177983
Eizen for trash fights, before a bossfight i'd always tell AI to be defensive, i'd switch to Rokurou and solo bosses.
IT'S BECAUSE THOSE RETARDS KEEP DYING RUINING MY SCORE
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>>383178209
Really? The allies' AI is one of the most competent I have seen, I'm playing on hard, though.
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>>383178478
Playing on hard as well, and they keep fucking dying. I had to bench Velvet because she died even on normal fucking battles
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>>383150549
The cast of P5 were completely 1-dimentional. The fucking Cabaret Platinum Hostesses in Yakuza 0 side Story had more personality to them for Christ's sake.
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>>383176595
I usually did a combination of Velvet/Rokurou/Phi/and Magilou, and would switch every now and then to Eizen or switch Rokurou as the player character.

I personally found Eleanor to be kinda trash compared to others and never used her unless I was forced to.

Never got a game over the entire game, although I was playing on Normal. Would probably recommend any new players to do it on Hard, since I found the combat a bit too easy.
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>daze enemy
>leap up and fireball the shit out of them

eizen was a dragon all along
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>>383177983
I switch characters all the time. Assists are easy combo extenders and for more Souls. Changing active party members is also a good way to extend combos from active character who is finishing their combo string. For example, making Velvet finish her BS and changing to another character gives you plenty of time to follow up.

If you are not using all the characters, you are really missing out.
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>>383178634
Meant playing on "intense", my bad, will keep what you posted in mind when I'll switch difficulty.
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>>383178760
>anything but Intense or Hard
And even then it's the easiest Tales of game to date
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>>383146346

OP, please go back to Call of Duty and leave JRPGs alone, you suck balls.
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>>383162896
It's amazing she withstood going back to the village.
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>>383178769
Interesting. This system has more nuances than it seems.
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>>383178892
(different anon)
I suck at the game, but it does seem like there are severe difficulty spikes throughout. And the battle system's not like it makes me want to try again during any such spike, so I just put it on simple for a bit.
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>>383180104
>that part where she's on the ship afterwards thinking about how she just killed everyone again >her voice gets shaky for a sec
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>>383180481
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>>383151071
>People like them more because they are built around being endearing, which is what waifufags usually want.
Even as a shallow waifufag, I didn't like many of the girls from P5. The ones I did like I didn't have any real attachment to, they just weren't as bad as the rest. It was surprisingly disappointing.
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>>383146346
one of the biggest Tales of players is quitting for good, the series is dead.

https://youtu.be/fN2aMCb_KoE
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>>383181346
What about the other tales games as said by spongebob?
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>>383181346
some random Hispanic garbage
>literally who
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>>383161097
?
Eternia is the first one with a refined battle system, great sprites AND awsome music.
How can you go wrong with that unless you whine about va and the man bra?
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