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>Crash Bandicoot was almost universally hated, and the Playstation

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>Crash Bandicoot was almost universally hated, and the Playstation 1 is considered one of the worst consoles to date
My friend keeps telling me this, but I don't know how to refute it. It just doesn't seem to have any credence to it.

People don't actually think this, right?
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>>383089465
what kind of fucking dumb apes do you hang out with
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>>383089581
Nintenbros.
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>>383089581
/v/
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>>383089465
I don't think I knew a single person who didn't love Crash Bandicoot if they had a Playstation.
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>>383089465
might be a regional thing. When I was a kid only poorfags had a playstation and the N64 was the shit
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>>383089465

Crash Bandicoot was loved (mostly due to cool factor, but still loved) and PS1 won the console generation.
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>>383089465
Get better friends OP
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>>383089465
I played it for the first time on ps1 emulator last year and its one of my favorite platformers of all time. It has more soul and atmosphere than the shitty remake. How can anyone hate it
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>>383089465
Just say
>If it was universally hated, why did it sell so well, just like the remaster?
Same for the Ps1
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Bandicoot was pretty forgetable all things considered, now was just a good time to capitalize on the games because OMG MY CHILDHOOD LIKE IF UR A 90'S KID XDDDD
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>>383089702
>N64 was the shit
>no Metal Gear Solid
>no Final Fantasy 7
>no Resident Evil
>no Silent Hill
>no Gran Turismo
Etc.
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>>383089465
>crash bandicoot universally hated
> Playstation 1 is considered one of the worst consoles
What fucking reality did I wake up in?
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>>383089686

Meanwhile I didn't know a single person who had a PS1 who actually liked Crash games.
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>>383089465
>universally hated
>game is impossible to find in stores at launch
>takes a month before they can meet demand
>tops most European charts
>has the best PS4 launch this year in a year with too many good games

Nintendo abandoned Europe, and Sega and Sony treated us right.
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>>383089465
>Crash Bandicoot was almost universally hated
Yeah, that's probably why they kept making game after game featuring him.

The game sold over 6.8million units and have positive reviews across the board. It was a massive hit and put Playstation on the map.
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>>383089465
Your friend would be an annoying contrarian if he insisted without reason the PS1 and Crash were terrible, but he went full retard by claiming the PS1 is considered to the one of the worst. By whom? Certainly not a majority of gamers or the gaming press, it's a positively beloved console among those who had it as their first (myself included. We had a 3DO, but that doesn't count, that's an ACTUAL garbage console.)

Crash hasn't aged all that well gameplay-wise due to the clunky controls which can make timing jumps and spins a bit of a guessing game. Considered in the context of its time and through the lens of my nostalgia goggles though, it's still a great fucking game.
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>>383089928
we were all like 8 years old. I'm a relatively oldfag and no one played those games until highschool when the PS2 was out
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>>383090251
That being said, it was hard as FUCK to actually beat all the way through. The last few levels were simply not fair and not fun. Thankfully, this remedied in the two sequels for the PS1.
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Your friend is pulling arguments out of his ass.
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>>383089465
>Crash Bandicoot
Are you high? I think Crash 2 was the second game I ever got after wargames.
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>>383089465
Nobody hated crash until naughty dog stopped developing them
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>>383089465
No, SNES and PSX are the elder god tier consoles. Your friend is trolling you or legitimately retarded.
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>>383089465
Op is a mongoloid living in Mongolia surrounded by other mongoloids
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only /v/ history revisionists hate the first 2 playstation systems. Pure desperation
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>>383089686
I had a PSX from day one and never liked Crash.
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>I don't like X
>therefore it's the worst thing ever and everyone hates
Your friend is a dipshit contrarian that you should punch in the mouth.
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>>383090705
>anyone hating the PS2
I dont believe you.
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I remember renting Crash when I was younger. Easily one of the worst platformers I've ever played. Shit controls and graphics. Most of the difficulty comes from the floaty controls and the camera angle.
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>>383089928
>N64
>no resident evil
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Your friends were the losers who only had a Nintendo growing up because Mommy was worried about violence in video games. They are literally just salty.
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>>383089465
Your friend is a bullshitter.
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>>383090606
what are some good snes games that are actually worth it and hold up today?
I only ever played some genesis games back in the day before jumping ship to psone.
Since i have a vita i've been emulating various systems.

SNES games i've liked:
Super castlevania IV
Zombies ate my neighbours (i cheated tho)
Super metroid (barely starting this one)

Also i have but havent played:
A link to the past
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>>383090982
Earthbound is a timeless classic
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>>383090828
>nintentoddlers somehow still say to this day that the pixelated compression mess of re2 64 is somehow the best version

Even then they only had 1 RE game
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>>383089465
I don't even like Crash and I know that's false.

I mean the damn thing is selling better than Horizon with considerably less advertising. Clearly people love this game and always have. If they were always shit how did it spawn so many sequels and manage to create a fanbase that would sit around for 20 years ready to throw money at them again?
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>>383090541
Except for Twinsanity.
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>PS1 was considered one of the worst consoles to date
>Kick the N64's ass and stole its lunch

Is your friend clinically retarded
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>>383091146
n64 version had some cool extra content at the very least
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>>383089702
N64 was cheaper though retard
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>>383091114
Why is it so loved? is it the story and characters? because to me it just looks like another top down pixel rpg, and im not sure if im in the mood for that, especially if the gameplay is lackluster.

Hell i only downloaded zelda because i feel somewhat obligated to play at least 1 of them
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>>383091146
Uh-uh, you were wrong, cakeboy. You don't get to damage control this time. Don't talk shit if you don't know shit.
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>>383089465
Why do you feel the need to refute something that isn't true? Is your friend 6 years old or what?
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>>383091284
>purple blood
Meanwhile literally every other version got extreme battle mode
>>383091367
i didnt make the original post einstein
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>>383090334
I was 11/12 and played all those games.. PSX > N64 for me back in the day. But I still loved N64
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>>383090541
>That angry look
Sorry, I will get good, I promise.
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>>383089465
There is nothing to say. Clearly your friend just hates Sony and will not be able to comprehend any kind of logical counterpoint. Just direct him here to /v/ where he can argue with other irrational, delusional fanboys for the rest of his natural born life.
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>>383091287
PS1 was chippable cheaply and you could buy burnt CDs for a few pesos while an N64 cartridge was hundreds.
This is why PS1 and 2 were huge in spicland.
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>>383091325
>just looks like another top down pixel rpg

Nigger, it is THE top down pixel rpg.

Everything about it is good
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>>383089465
it outsold the saturn and n64?

all the exclusive third party games

crash had good sequels, stayed an exlcusive, got more not as good (some shitty) sequels. Not a it got a complete remake, not just an hd re-release
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>>383089851
You burst into flames afterwards based on the sheer basic of that, right?
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>>383090251
>Crash hasn't aged all that well gameplay-wise due to the clunky controls which can make timing jumps and spins a bit of a guessing game.
Crash games have aged perfectly. They're flawless gameplay-wise and still visually beautiful. The only thing you could argue hasn't aged sell is the save/password system in the first game.
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Your friend is a contrarian, like the ones infesting this thread right now.
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>>383089465
What I want to know is how come there was never another cart racing game as good as crash team racing?
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>>383090982
Legend of the mystical ninja
Pocky & rocky
Goof troop
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>>383091459
So you were damage controlling on someone else's behalf? Might as well let him fucc your waifu while you're at it.
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>>383090982
megaman x
chrono trigger
yoshi's island

There are a lot of great games on the snes.
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>>383091732
>The only thing you could argue hasn't aged sell is the save/password system in the first game.
Probably the best reason to get the trilogy.
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>>383091732
I played both the originals and the remake and have not owned a ps1. Platformers are my favorite genre. Crash2 is the best. 1 is unrefined and grueling in a fun way. 3 is unrefined in a meh way. But with how platforming has grown leaves Crash's original ending design in the dust. I'd love to have a Crash inspired modern game that wasn't, y'know, a modern Crash game because ugghhh, modern Crash games sure don't get Crash
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>>383089465
Your mistake is trying to rebut an opinion. It's an opinion, if he's trying to say nobody liked it as a fact, tell him you did. If he's old enough to have enjoyed gaming in the PSX era you should both be mature enough to understand differing viewpoints. I liked crash, my brothers liked crash, and we played #2 to 100% completion out of enjoyment and not obligation. We played other games to, on other consoles, and it wasn't a matter of what we enjoyed more. /v/ ruins opinions because we're all looking for that utopian game that has everything for everyone, and we're just stuck in this pissing contest on what platform and series is superior.

>Tl;dr I had a crush on coco, but N.gin is bae. Missilehead is a hard fetish to search for.
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>>383089465
your friend is an idiot, this never happened. sony pretty much makes the industry what it is today
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>>383089686
I know that my Dad loves 2 and Warped, but doesn't like the first Crash.

Can't remember if it was the jumping mechanics or if 2 was just that much better than the first to him.
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>>383091579
This. I had a PS1 with 50 games or so, and a N64 with 4 games. Games weren't expensive, but I had the PS1 games for free, and to be honest N64 didn't have too many games of my interest. But I'm still finding hidden gems for PS1.
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>>383092923
The controls from 2 onwards are much better than 1 so that's likely it. 2 has better music too

The remake makes 1 control more like 2, your pops might like it
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>>383091228
In some cases, even Twinsanity.

If only they finished developing it.
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>>383089686
I liked crash 2 and 3 and crash team racing
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>>383093630
Don't remind me. So much potential lost
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>>383093830
If only if they had more time
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I just finally fucking beat time attack on The High Road
Good God
Sapphire is good enough
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>>383093995
Did you do it legit or use the ropes
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Burden of proof is on him.
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>>383089465
Crash was poorly received by reviewbros in magazines and such upon release (how dare you not be mario) but its good design, aggressive advertising, and word of mouth elevated it to a multi-million seller anyway, and the sequels were received much more fairly by reviewers.
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>>383089465
Sounds like the words of a salty N64fag tbqh.
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>>383093630
Twinsanity made me realize how Crash isn't suited for sandbox levels. Trying to jump on arrow boxes with a free camera is nigh impossible and the level design isn't as tight as before.
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>>383094242
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>>383094487
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>>383094487
The whole thing is such a product of its time that it should be in a museum.
>sushi x
Imagine what would happen if they tried that today.
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>>383089686
I loved Crash 2 to fucking pieces but to this day I absolutely cannot play Crash 1. Not even using save states to bypass the save fuckery helped, it's just unfun to me.
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>>383094487
>>383094576
I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions but I'm just paraphrasing what Crash's creators said last E3.
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>>383094487
The world used to be a better place.
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>>383089465
Friendly reminder Crash Bandicoot outsells most of Nintendo's mascots, the exceptions being Plumber Boy, Zelda and DKC, literal gods of tbe industry
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>>383092923
Crash 2 was the highest selling Crash game for a reason. Followed closely by Wrath of Cortex.
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>>383090982
>Games in green text, in no order.
There are a ton of games that held up great and are good for a single play through just to see how technology has changed. Gems that I never knew as a kid but have emulated and loved.
>EVO, Secret of Mana, Terranigma, Actraiser, Illusion of Gaia and Soul Blazer.
Some of the best RPGs ever are on it, and hold up.
>Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Lufias and Super Mario RPG.
Surprisingly I'm not a huge fan of the FFs and BoFs on the SNES. Certain key moments from games stick out, but they were all so damn similar it's hard for me to say they were awesome. But I know they mostly aged well.

Classics like:
>Zelda, Super Mario Allstars, Super Mario World and Super Metroid

>There are a couple dozen other buried gems I didn't mention and I'm sure I forgot a few big names, but starting out with these is good.

Games that have not aged well IMO include Mario Kart, any Sim, any racing/flying game, including Starfox.
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>>383094576
>Extra icons
I've heard of lives as man, 1up, toon but never icon
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>>383094098
Ropes
Who is autistic enough to master it without the ropes?
I used the turtles just before the end though, because you pretty much have to.
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>>383090606
>>383091470
>>383092416
>PSX
end this meme
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>>383094487
>Worst feature: narrow paths
I'm probably the only person that thinks this is why Crash is so fun.

3D platformers were once split into collectathons like Mario 64 and Banjo, or obstacle courses like Crash. The challenge with Crash isn't finding whatever doodad is hidden at every corner of the level, it's actually getting through in the first place. The collectibles are a reward, not something to find. That's why time trials are a perfect fit for Crash and should have been in the game from the start.
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>>383094895
Warped sold better than Cortex Strikes Back.
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>>383089465
Your friend is trolling or genuinely retarded.
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>>383094971

Maybe you're not a game pro.
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>>383089465
It's certainly an exaggeration to say that Crash was universally hated, or even a bad game. But it's true to say that its reception in 1996 was fairly lukewarm. It was not regarded as a potential classic.
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>>383095049
Underage b&
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>>383089992

That's because you hang out with weebs.
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>>383094825
When people think of "Nintendo mascots", you've listed all of them. Sometimes poor old Kong isn't even included anymore.
>>383095025
I did. I died more due to experimentation than actually trying to finish.
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>>383095162
You're not the only one. I hate the collectathon games too.
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>>383089581

Nintendamigos.
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>>383095525
>I hate the collectathon games too.
The way that /v/ defines 'collectathon' literally EVERY game is one.

Even Doom is a collectathon according to /v/'s ridiculously broad and inexact definition.
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>>383089465
>Playstation 1 is considered one of the worst consoles to date

Your friend thinks the console that ate Nintendo's lunch two generations in a row is considered one of the worst consoles to date?

Your friend has no idea what he's talking about.
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>>383095049
Sorry but every gaming forum and chat room called it PSX. I'm not going to stop just because something else came along almost a decade later and never actually got released in NA.

It's like the faggots who call duck tape "duct tape". Duct tape is foil backed tape that doesn't deform due to temperature change and doesn't hold well, mostly just seals. Duck tape is waterproof canvas tape that holds shit together like crazy but doesn't tolerate temperature change.
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>>383089465
I was more of a Medievil guy myself.
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>>383095294
hey, I'm not the one calling a console by the wrong name
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>>383095253
People got taken in by the "OMG 3D SANDBOX" hype before they realized finding lost tokens is more of a chore than actually fun.

You can notice the same thing happening with "OMG OPEN WORLDS". Same shit, 20 years apart.
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>>383094825
KIRBYFANBOYS ON SUICIDE WATCH!
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>>383089465

You probably deserve retarded friends if youre too retarded to come up with a simple reply to this. Ffs there's a remake right now that is selling like hot cakes, meaning people like them enough to buy them back 20 years later.
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>>383089465
Crash 1 is kind of shitty, lets face it.
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>>383089465
your friend is a fagget anon.
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PS1 sold 100 millions
N64 only sold 20 millions

Crash 3 has a 91 metascore

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/crash-bandicoot-3-warped
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>>383095661
Don't pretend you don't know exactly what sttyle of game people are referring to, retard.
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>>383095807
If you're going down this path, then it's an argument that Crash with its imprecise and linear 3D platforming down the z-axis is a gimmick that should be disregarded for 2D games.
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>>383096057
>metacritic scores
Desperate anon. Just the console sales was enough.
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>>383095661
The game mechanic "find these thingamajigs we hide in every ass crack of this open area" is in basically every game now. A collectathon is taking that mechanic and promoting it into the primary goal of the game.
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>>383089702

N64 had a trash library.
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>>383095253
> it's one of the most basic games around
> but it's still fun
that pretty much sums up the first 3 crash games for me nothing groundbreaking but still a okay game

>>383095807
> muh sandbox maymay
lets be real about this, crash games seemed to scared to go full 3d while nintendo fully embraced 3d and set the standard for it
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>>383095782
Actually, you are.
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>>383091732
You talking about the remakes are beautiful?, cause almost all PS1 graphics look bad now. Also, the running towards the camera levels suck.
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>>383096221
>promoting it into the primary goal of the game
The primary goal of a game like, say, Banjo-Kazooie is defeating Gruntilda the witch. Not collecting tokens.

Now if you say that collecting tokens is the primary way of reaching Gruntilda the exact same argument can be made for Doom.

The primary goal of Doom is kicking demon ass, but the main means of doing that is collecting key cards to get to the end of the level.

So as I said, by /v/'s definition even Doom is a collectathon.
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>>383096574
No, the originals are beautiful.
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>>383095253
>Reviewers sucked Nintendo's cock back in the day just as today
Tell us something we don't know. Notice how the reviewer does NOT mention SM64's gameplay at all, just how wonderful the game is.
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I have got all plat in Crash 3 except for one level.

How do you do Tomb Wader?
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>>383096613
Except a big part of Doom is you being locked in an area and told you can't leave until you did your cleanup duty.
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>>383089992
Maybe stop using /v/ so much.
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>>383096776
Pray for cycles
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>>383089632
>>383095548
I had an NES, N64, and GC growing up, and got suckered into the Wii

Never hated Sony. They had some entertaining commercials. Played crash 1 and Pepsi man at sears. Had a good time.

Just letting you know we weren't all butt devastated by the playstation
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>>383096776
you can be pretty liberal with the water levels if i recall
especially with the mega spin
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>>383096401
what kind of neogaf fueled delusion is this ?
> Cant even think of a bad mainline nintendo title from that era
> Every rare game
> Dark Rift was a pretty nice fighter, enjoyed it as much as I didi Tekken 2 and 3
> Turok games were enjoyable
> Hexen was great
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>>383096613
Keycards are ways the map designer controls a player's progression through a level, not the reason you go into a level.
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>>383095525
To 100% the game, don't you have to break all the boxes? Isn't that basically collecting boxes?
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>>383092923
>my dad
Hows old are you and how old is your dad?
>It has finally come to the point where kids on here are talking about Ps1 through proxy if their parents
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>>383096401
it had some excellent games but they were few. I had OOT, Mario 64, Mario Kart, Mischief Maker but once I got a PS1 I never touched it again.
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>>383097450
don't forget collecting crystals and gems
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As someone who owned all the system from that generation.

PS1>Saturn>N64.
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>>383097450
Boxes aren't hidden away in some random corner (except for some rare instances in Crash 1). The difficult thing is getting to them. Crystals and Gems aren't collected in the level, they're rewards for doing well.
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All the cool kids had PS1s and all the losers had N64s. That's why the losers are still mad that the PS1 won.
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>>383097921
whos joey
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>>383097245

You are a true Nintenbro. /v/ needs more of your kind.
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>>383095049
you're the meme here
>inb4 you try to refute all those sources with a baseless claim
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>>383097982

As someone who owned all the systems for that generation,

PS1>N64>>>>>>>>>>Saturn
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>>383098226
> y-you dont collect gems and crystals t-there just rewards for doing well
okay anon, if you say so
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>>383098387
>he's so autistic that he's still stuck in a 90's console war
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>>383098598
>o-okay anon, i-if you say so
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>>383098498

OK, but where did that name came from? Sony never used it officialy.
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>>383098498
please show me where the X is located
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>>383097982
>Saturn
>Better than anything
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>>383094487

I trust EGM reviews with my life.
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>>383095247
I want to drink Tomo's sweet soma.
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>>383094748

As far as i know, Crash creators didn't worked in the PS4 version. What are they doing now, anyway?
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>>383099535
making games more progressive and inclusive for everyone while also making old archaic things like gameplay obsolete
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>>383099847

Eh, i don't think anyone from Crash worked in any of the Uncharted's.
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>>383099535
They didn't, it was a get-together type thing.
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>>383095049
Don't even bother, too many americunts on this board who a. grew up with N64 b. even when given facts that it was labeled PSX by the unofficial Official Playstation Magazine they still go 'muh PSX'
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>>383099847
That's the studio, not the creators. I don't think the original team are as active in the industry now, except for Mark Cerny who made Knack.
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>>383100015
One person did. But just the first one.
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>>383100015
>>383100173
so something similar to what happened to the square portion of square-enix, didn't know the original devs left ND, it explains a lot.
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>>383100114
>everyone in the world decided to call it PSX because of one magazine
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>>383100450
Yeah basically. Except only america tends to call it PSX. No one in my country does, they'd give you a strange look like what the fucks a psx, do you mean nsx?
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Wasn't the PSX the codename for the Playstation?
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>>383100114
I always called it the Playstation, till the PS2 came out, then it was the PS1. I thought the PSX was the smaller redesigned PS1. That's when I first heard of PSX
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_Bandicoot_(video_game)#Reception
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>>383102324
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#All_game_consoles
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>>383102280
The smaller redesinged one is called PSone tho
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>>383089465
He is right. Crash was mario for poorfags and for the people who was so young to understand the war of sega vs nintendo.
And the ps1 is massivly overrated it didn't push anything in the world of videogames with such limited hardware.
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Not surprised to see that sentiment OP. You see it on /v/ too.

All you have to know is there was a subset of (mostly American) kids who grew up with an N64 and have absolutely the worst, most retarded fucking taste in videogames. Ignore them.
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>>383102483
Maybe it was, but I never heard the word PSX till the redesign PS1 came out
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>>383094576
Man, I haven't heard the phrase 32 bit games in forever. I forgot it was referred like that
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>>383091146
>call the n64 pixelated.
>sucks the dick of the most pixelated console with the worst textures EVER.

We had ocarina of time bro, we didn't have that much time for your shitty x-files horror games with tanky clunky controls. Go fuck yourself.
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>>383101875
So PSM Magazine invented the PSX name

Which is why the PSX abbreviation appeared in this issue of EGM a year before PSM magazine even existed.
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>>383102637
>crash WAS mario
>crash came out 20 days before sm64
>ps4 gave us silent hill, mgs, ff7, fft, tekken 3, sotn, thps, most of which are defining pillars of their genre, some of them even CREATED their genre.
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>>383102637
>Crash was mario for poorfags
You know PS1 was more expensive than N64 at launch, right?

>And the ps1 is massivly overrated it didn't push anything in the world of videogames
Yeah definitely. It didn't come out of nowhere and sweep the industry off its feet or anything.
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>>383094487
I want to go back right fucking now
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>>383103358
>Yeah definitely. It didn't come out of nowhere and sweep the industry off its feet or anything.
right off its feet and into the garbage bin

>>383103028
>crash WAS mario
no it ripped off donkey kong country more
> CREATED their genre
nope, alone in the dark came out on pc before resident evil
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>coco's face when running from the boulder
No bandicoot should be this cute
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Have you tried calling him a cuck?
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>>383103960
me too bruv
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>>383089465
>Plat all three games already
>nothing to do now

Feels bad man
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>>383105267
Start again
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>>383089465


i dont know man check out reviews from the era.
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>>383095914
Well yeah my series stopped being good after Sakurai and Shimomura left HAL.
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>>383102637

>And the ps1 is massivly overrated it didn't push anything in the world of videogames with such limited hardware.

Great M rated games. If it was to Nintendo, we would be stuck with bing bing wahoo for all eternity.
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>>383097747
20, 2 months from 21.

Father's 48 or so. Can't recall exactly.

>>383093528
Maybe. He doesn't play vidya anymore though, so I think he'd pass. Just spends his free time watching anime that isn't "cutesy-girl in a slice-of-life genre" or whatever's recorded from TV. Said he was wanting to get into FFX again after my sis got it running on an emulator on his computer, but that's all I know.

He'd definitely play on my PS4 though if they did an HD Spyro. The first was his favorite. He's still pissed about the Skylanders nonsense.
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>>383089465
Your friend sounds like he'd fit right in here
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>>383106510
But bing bing wahoo is Sonic, not Nintendo
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>>383097245
What was wrong with the Wii?
I return to it more often than Gamecube.
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>>383089686
I had a PlayStation back in the day. First time I ever touched a Crash game was about two months ago when I randomly decided to download the first one and try it on my Raspberry Pi
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>>383089465

Don't bother. Arguing with them is like arguing with SJWs - they will just look at you and not comprehend how you even dare challenge their world view.
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>>383105267
How are you people so fast? I'm just enjoying the ride and just cleared High Road. I'd burn myself out if I plat it now.
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>>383098969
PS was trademarked to Nintendo, after Sony split with them, so Sony kept throwing "PSX".
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>>383089465
PS1 blew everything out of the water with it's quality exclusives and variety. The technology wasn't ahead of it's time but up to the task of what it was made for and apart from scratched disks was very reliable. Its sales were through the roof and you could play anything you wanted and then somemore Crash or GT or Wipeout or DieHard, whateverthefuck.
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>>383105158
http://crashland.elynx.fr/ressourcebonus/siteofficiel/index.htm
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>He hasn't passed the high road
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>>383095742
duck tape is a brand because of the misnomer, and even though the foil tape is the one used on ducts, the canvas tape is still called duct tape
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To all the new players, did you have a rough time finding the blue gem?
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>>383106646

your dad sounds like a pretty cool guy. from the outside, at least. the only game my dad ever played with me with crash team racing. he even got kinda good eventually, but he didn't actually like the stuff i was into.
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>>383107458
Wrong

the playstation boot sequence calls it PSX, the X came from eXperimental (because it was the 90s)

Sony never marketed it as the PSX, or even officialized the shortening (Like the did with PSone, PS2, PS3, PS4 and PSP)
But again, it was the 90s, something had to had an X on it if it was slightly implied to have an X near it and the shortening caught on mainly on the English speaking media

Nintendo had no trademark on PS, the Play Station SNES was registered to sony, not nintendo, sony only licensed the hardware


Nowadays using it keeps more and more confusing, because PSX was never official for sony, they made a PS2 based DVR for the japanese market called the PSX, the X being there because it was the first sony device to use the XMB
Then recently, sony has made a "Playstation eXperience" con and calls it the PSX

Honestly, I never cared about calling the first system PS1 or PSX, but with the con being officially called the PSX, just use a bit more of context or drop the non official name for the first system, and please, please stop arguing about the "right" way to call a 20 year old system
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Is incredibly funny seeing all these kids posting here discussing how things were in the SNES/Genesis and PS1/N64 era thinking that everything worked the same as nowadays. You bunch of ignorant fucks. On top of that you have objectives numbers of what happened 20 years ago and still try to find interpretations.
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>>383102964
Butthurt confirmed

It must suck being poor
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>>383108420

I'm not new, and i can't find it. At least you gave me a hint.
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>>383108703
When does the PS boot say PSX?
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>>383089465
>my 1 friend said it sucks so therefore everyone thought it sucked

You are retarded.
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>>383089465
CTR was great.

I had access to both Sony and Nintendo products, like anyone who wasn't a retard fanboy.

CTR was great, Crash1 was great, up to Crash3 was actually good, around the time of Ty, some of the later Spyros/etc I started to get tired as shit of the genre. Sly Raccoon was my jam though, though I've heard mixed reviews from others all of my friends who played it AT the time loved it.
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>>383092278
>tfw knew it was that specific password before I opened it
>remembered the whole thing too
As a kid I only ever beat the first two islands and never got gud enough to beat the rest. I didn't even 100% Crash 2 until like 5 years ago.
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>>383089928
>Name shit games and expect someone to care
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>>383089465
Trash bandicoot just seemed like such a stupid game when i was a kid and even now.

Its like the bubsy of its time
Id take rayman over this shit
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The PS1 won that generation for a reason.
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>>383089465
I loved Crash as a child on the PS1 but I wasn't on the internet back then.
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>considered one of the worst consoles to date

That's the N64. It had no games. Only kiddy platformers. The PS1 had all sorts of great games. It did platformers better than the N64.
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The Playstation 1 is the best console of that generation.
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>>383090334
>no one

Fuck you buddy, played MGS and RE2 when i was 9
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>>383089465
Thats the usual reaction from people that never had one, never played FF7-9, alundra, dragon quest 8, resident evil 1,2, wild arms, breath of fire,grandia etc and the list goes on and on.
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>>383094487
>that review scale where even 4-5 could be an okay game
Now it's:
>10 - Perfect (or the latest AAA release that gave them the most money)
>9 - Good (Average AAA release and some smaller/artsy fartsy indie shit)
>8 - Average (Everything else that isn't complete shovelware)
>7 - Hit or Miss (Didn't give them enough money or it's actually a decent game by a small company and it isn't being memed around social media enough to warrant a higher number)
>6 and below - SHIT DON'T PLAY IT GOYIM
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Playing 1 in the remake right now and I just beat High Road and got the gem

I had a harder time with Native Fortress

I abused the shit out of the rope though
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>>383098994
On the circuit board inside
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>>383106831
The Wii's mainstream look was mainly that of a casual system with little core appeal so it gets more hate than it deserves despite having a pretty solid niche library of exclusives about on-par with the PS3
>>383094487
Sushi X was my nigga
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>10 years old
>get PS1
>when you open the top, there is a box that says "Caution: Don't touch the lens"
>immediately touch the lens
>PS1 can no longer read discs

Yeah, great job Sony. Make a game system for kids and make it enticing as fuck to poke the lens.
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>>383112840
It was a 1-5 scale.
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>>383114170

Yeah, blame Sony for you being retarded.
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>>383092246
These three, and also ActRaiser, EarthBound, F-Zero, Kirby Super Star, and the Super Mario All Stars + World compilation. There's also Star Fox but because it's extremely low-poly at a buttery-smooth ~12fps, it may not "hold up today" as you said, and you may experience emulation issues thanks to the Super-FX chip enabling 3D graphics.
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>>383089992
my friends and I loved crash, we actually played CTR all the time, pearls before swine etc
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>>383089686
Hey there. Crash sucks.
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>>383089465
>Crash Bandicoot was almost universally hated, and the Playstation 1 is considered one of the worst consoles to date

The sales alone prove this chucklefuck wrong. Does this moron just have a hateboner for all things Sony?
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>>383091367
>>383091284
>>383091146

Owner and player of both versions here. There are benefits and negatives to both really. N64 has indeed got higher res character models, however the backrounds suffer greatly and are blurry and the impressive sound in true stereo suffers too sometimes as a result of being heavily compressed. The Extra content is fairly negligable. The N64 port is at least a grest technical achievment. They had to remove every other frame of FMV to be able to fit it all in, but they got it done. You can pretty much ask me anything about the diffirences and i could answer really.

>>383102964

See, this is why no one likes you hardcore nintendo lot. Even when you get the very best multiplats you act like a fucking asshole. Whwn we throw a dog a bone, we don't want to know how it tastes anon ok?
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>>383114170
>Yeah, great job Sony
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>>383090705

PS1>PS4>PS2>>PS3

debate me.
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>>383114170
I tried to color on the lens with crayon and it still works to this day.
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>>383118308
Well you simply posted an opinion how can i debate you? Give reasons and examples first.
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>>383117967
Lotus Prince is that you?
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>>383118308
Nah, PS2 > PS1 > PS3 > PS4
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>>383118428
Er no? Who's that?
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>>383118464

>3 above 4
>2 above 1

pleb, absolute pleb. 2 had way too much shovelware, 3 had terrible online functionality in an era when online was the big thing
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>>383089992
I gotta get some hot dogs when I get home; any suggested brands?
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>>383110898

Do the opposite of what crash usually does
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Crash 1 was an awfully balanced game and people defending even the remake's design on that fact are super nostalgic.
Crash 2 and 3 are objectively superior in every way.
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>>383118572
>>3 above 4
Because it has way more good games, had a much better interface, didn't have paid online, you could also play PS1 and PS2 games on it.
>>2 above 1
It has more good games.
>but it has loads of shovelware
So does the PS1, doesn't matter.
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is crash 2 awful on an emulator or does the game have wierd physics? first crash game and it felt really fucking awful hopping on floating boxes on the emulator, considering getting it on psn
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>>383094576
>dr neo cortex
> show n brio
lel
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>>383089465
90's kid here, Crash was the de-facto franchise on playstation. Everyone who had a PSX liked it, Playstation was way more popular because it was easier to pirate.

Your "friend" is a retard and you should kill him because he's clearly fucking with you.

>but I don't know how to refute it
No scratch that, kill yourself you dumbass. You could just fucking go through old reviews of crash games or look up the fucking sales numbers for the PSX to show how wrong he is but the fact that you didn't think of that shows you must be some mentally retarded person and your "friend" is a normal person who likes to fuck with the retard kid because a retard is too stupid to know any better. I envy your friend now, having a dumbass retard slave bitch to fuck with.
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>>383117967
>doesn't have the dreamcast version
Casual
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>>383120354
Leave him alone you big bully!
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I love Coco Bandicoot.
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>>383121270
>dreamcast
>the PS1 port machine and Sonic
>not casual

Im jelly of that hard mode tho.
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>>383123957
>>the PS1 port machine and Sonic
>not knowing all of those ports are far superior on dreamcast
>not knowing about the dozens and dozens of great exclusives not including Sonic Autism
Wow you really are a casual
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>>383089465

>n64 300 games with like 10 memorable ones
>psx 3000 games with dozens and dozens of memorable ones

well, make up your own mind
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>>383089465
If you really want to refute him, cite the fact that every single PS1 Crash game (even Bash) achieved Greatest Hits status, and the N. Sane Trilogy sold out on Amazon TWICE for pre-orders.
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>>383089465
just show him the ps1 sales figures compared to the n64 sales figures and watch him ree
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>>383091732
Crash 1's control isn't particularly great either. Also, gem requirements so punishing not even the entire dev team was able to 100% the game.

If someone wants to say Crash 1 N. Sane is the better version, I'm not gonna interject.
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Coco Bandicoot spin-off when?
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>>383124448
Crash 1 N.Sane at least makes it a bit better by allowing you to replay bonus rounds. Nothing infuriated me more in the original than those Brio levels and some of Tawna's, then having to do the whole level over if you failed.
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>>383094487
>Sushi has been sneaking around the office in his ninja outfit, bothering the people who are really working.

How did we go from this to Kotaku?
Why can't our journos have fun anymore? Video games are about fun.
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>>383102964
and this is why everyone hates zeldafags
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fucking furry shit
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>>383124063
Wow sounds literally what people give yhe PS4 a hard time for currently: being a port station for remasters. Interesting. Sorry anon, but keep your failure to launch meme back at /vr/ where it belongs. Im tired of hearing about how the harder a cobsole fails the more patrician it is.
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>>383124604
This, he is literally mugging off one of the best multiplats of that gen and its one they actually DID get.
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>>383125103
If you conveniently ignore large parts of posts to make a nonsensical point, sure, think whatever you want casualfag.
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>>383089465
Well if you weren't underage young fag you wouldn't even have to wonder this in the first place. Leave this board, gain some height, hit the showers, get a clue, have sex, and most importantly of all:

18+
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>>383095447
I think of Kirby, Mario, Link, and Pokemon.
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>>383125256
Ok? So it had some cool exclusives. Explain how that toy was the anthesis of casual you pleb.
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>>383125982
>i dont want to play games if its not on a popular platform
>i dont want to play good games
ok, go ahead and miss out
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>>383126118
Thats not what we are talking about here. You claimed the casual card for not owning one. Do i have to own everything to not be casual?
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>>383126332
Yes
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>>383126526
id rather be a fucking casual.
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>>383126593
That's what I've been saying
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>>383089632
Well he's right then, you think a guy who grew up with Mario 64 would stop to look at Crash? kek
He meant universally hated by N64 owners, and i fucking hate Crash 1
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>>383089702
Lol this is objectively wrong. PS1 was marketed as a futuristic, stylish machine and one of the first consoles that was acceptable for an adult to own. N64 was mainly marketed as a babby's toy.
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>>383126662
good.
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>>383114335
Look at the image he's replying to, you can see the full 10 point scale in the upper left.
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>>383091732
Pretty much this. People don't know what has and hasn't aged well these days.
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Me and my friends didn't hate Crash games, but we definitely didn't think they were great either.
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>>383096574
Crash 1,2,3 still look amazing for PS1 standards.
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>>383124458
This
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>>383118739
Nathans or Hebrew National
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>>383098425
My wife's son's father
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>yfw you won't ever play that open world Crash Bandicoot game on the DS that was scrapped.
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N64 kids are just dumb.
I don't mean people who owned N64 or love nintendo, but just THOSE people who can't get over the fact that Playstation won that particular gen.
It was limited technically compared to the N64, it's only with modern emulation we can remove the jittering that came from 3D vertex mapping or the lack there of.

But it's library was incredibly diverse, high file sizes meant devs could tell larger scale stories and play with the medium with a lot more freedom.
PS1's library is so large and has so many gems that I'm still finding new favorites all these years later.

N64 had a handful of fucking amazing games and then some redundant titles (prequels to franchises that are better anyway).
It just wasn't very large in terms of titles.
A lot of people say quality over quantity but I think it's pretty obvious playstation had both.
Nintendo's first party and Rare's contribution set N64 apart and those games are still amazing, you can't say Crash or Spyro are anywhere as good as SM64 or Banjo Kazooie, but the N64 library just doesn't go much further.

Luckily not all N64 owners are like this, my best friend at the time had an N64 and I had a PS1 and we loved going to each other's houses to play games. Between us we had access to both libraries and it's obvious both systems were amazing.
But anyone who pretends the PS1 isn't one of the best consoles of all time is delusional.
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>>383127445
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>>383127445
Stop samefagging.
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>>383089465
My parents who never even played video games owned a PlayStation purely just to play Crash.
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I don't know a single person who didn't like the original Playstation except those who couldn't afford it, nevermind people who didn't like the best game on it (crash 3)
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>>383127768
To be honest I'm not even sure I'd call some of the N64's best games "amazing."

So for there to only be so few of them in the entire library, the N64 is really underwhelming.
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>>383089465
Crash Bandicoot is pretty much universally hated, though. 2 and 3 were the ones that were actually good.
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>>383128151
I'd say there's more than a few but the library itself is small as fuck.
That's where the quality over quantity argument comes from, but the problem is the PS1 had amazing games too despite there being so many more.
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>>383118572
he's right though
PS4 is the worst playstation console to date, not a single good game
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>>383115348
Yeah, well my friends and I hated Crash and we never played CTR.
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>>383096057
so nintendo won right?
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>>383128212
Yeah, the quality over quantity thing.

What I'm saying is, N64 fans will be like "but we have this and this"
And I mean, sure, they're good, but they aren't THAT good, y'know?
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>>383089465
I honestly didn't know a single person who talked shit about Playstation til I was in Highschool.
Then a bunch of Xbox dick suckers acted like it was the greatest thing ever and Ps2 was inferior kek.

Everyone I hung out with as a kid either had both Playstation and/or N64 but liked both systems.
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>>383128356
Clarify your working out?
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>>383089928
>Also on PC
>Also on PC
>Also on Saturn and PC
>GT only exclusive on the list
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>>383128474
Silent Hill was never ported to anything
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>>383128474
True, but nobody played ffvii on PC since it was a piece of shit before the steam rerelease
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>>383128474
and STILL unavailable on N64! What exactly were you trying to proove? Ok anon, now people have gone off and got a PC instead and STILL have no need for an N64. I fucking love these multiplat arguments "hurr but PC" but they didn't all choose PC and Saturn did they? They choose the PlayStation didn't they? Just like this gen in fact.
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>>383128594
>but nobody played ffvii on PC
Plenty of people did, actually. There wasn't really anything wrong with the port, save for the MIDI music sounding different, which is mostly subjective.
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>>383124521
The original did not require you to get the bonus' crates for the gem. Don't tell me you restarted the entire level just because you failed the bonus.
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OP is a troll you retards
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>>383128474

Nobody played the PC, 64 or Saturn versions back then, most multiplats had a 90%+ ownership percentage on PSX
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>Mfw know a Nintenbro who is so loyal to Nintendo he thinks Sony should go out of business
He's not very bright. He's actually said the PS1-4 don't have any good games, period. He also unironically believes Conker's Bad Fur Day is the best M-rated game ever. Seriously.
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>>383128715
>Plenty of people did
Not enough for people to remember FFVII as a multiplat, apparently.
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>>383128928
WHOA SERIOSUYL??? what a dunce lmao!!!!
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>>383106646

>The first was his favorite.
What a patrician.
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>>383128651
Sure, you're right and all. I just find it funny that people always list off these PS classics when they aren't PS exclusives. For a console that has so much more to offer than the top 10, it's kind of sad to see.
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>>383089465
Stop spending time with 11 year olds, you degenerate.
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>>383129221
The thing is, people here seem to say "hurr also on PC" like they expected anons to have a decent PC in 1997 which some OBVIOUSLY did "some/few" So why is it, that to make the multiplat argument against PSX we accept people could afford good PC's in 1997, but when we talk about DVD players in 2001 we suddenly act like everyone got super poor and couldn't afford one so people bought PS2's as a DVD player?

This might seem unrelated to many of you but come on, i keep seeing how everyone just had a really good PC in 1997 to play multiplats but then no one could suddenly afford a DVD player on its own... So which is it?
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>>383130363

You don't even have to rationalize it, FF7 sold almost 10 million on PSX and not even 10.000 copies on PC

The PC version wasn't even being sold in all the territories, only autist knew of its existence
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>>383129270
Whether you agree or disagree about Conker being the best M-rated game ever (which it's not, that goes to Demon's Souls or Dark Souls I), to claim the PS1-4 have 0 good games is just factually wrong.
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>>383130279
The thing is anon, and i DO own an N64, is that multiplats are often more interesting to me and others than 1st party exclusives. So a platform has exclusives, ok cool, but does it have the latest cool multiplat as well?? It doesn't? Hmm... Gotta have both or make a choice then. I love mischief makers, but to forgoe MGS, RE3 and Tekken 2 & 3? Damn.

I personally feel have both the PSX and the N64.
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>>383130363
I don't think it took all that much to run FFVII at PS resolutions on your PC in 1997. If you could run Quake or Unreal, you should be able to do just fine.

>>383130495
>and not even 10.000 copies on PC
Citation, please.
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>>383130673
>I don't think it took all that much to run FFVII

Then how do we explain the run away success of the PSX? If PC could do it too?
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>>383130591
When the PS3/360 race was at its worst, the PS3 had a disadvantage by having the worse multiplat versions, but people always made the argument that at least it had exclusives. I'm seeing a lot of similarities to that situation and the PS/N64. Same thing with the OG Xbox. It had the best multiplats, but lacked exclusives. People just change their arguments to fit whatever ''their'' company is doing.
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Why do some levels have a slightly different amount of crates in the remake, such as high road or cortex power. Where did they go?
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Why do we still pretend that PS1 was bad? What's the fucking point?
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>>383131084
Because the PSX was a lot cheaper and had other games than Final Fantasy VII. What point are you trying to make here?
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>>383097245
You're not a drone.
There is a difference
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>>383131106
No no, read again anon, exclusives AND multiplats. If the Gamecube had EVERYTHING the PS2 had and it's own 1st party games, do you think things would have atill turned out the same? The thing about Nintendo is they have cool shit, but fail to have even the most basic multiplats often. Imagine if this had been a thing:
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>>383131169
Exactly your point anon. Exactly your point. The argument "N64 is better than PSX because *also on PC" is redundant because it didn't matter.
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>>383097245
What was great about having friends back then was that they usually had the games or consoles you didn't. So, while I had an N64 at my home, my friend had a PS, so we'd all spend a lot of time between the two households.
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>>383114170
At your age I overclocked the lens speed when it didn't worked, are you fucking retarded?
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>>383131454

That was the ultimate fifth generation experience
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>>383089992
Then you knew people who bought their PS1 towards the end of the cycle. Everyone who got a PS1 early on played the impressive Crash demo and then bought the full game.
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>>383095807
It wasn't just it being a sandbox. It was it being a sandbox in the days of Early 3D. Also Mario 64 controlled pretty great, whereas Crash took till 2 to really feel just right.

And I say this as someone who hates the sandbox style platformers.
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>>383096776
Use the bug at the start to sync the obstacles up

Once you figure this out, platinum becomes very easy
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>>383131608
I remember when the DC came out and one of the guys got one that same year. Everyone was fucking amazed by the new graphics, so we spent a ton of time at his place. That dude was the neighborhood king for almost a year.
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>>383118308
PS2>PS1>PS4>PS3
You're right on the PS3. That thing is fucking shit compared to the 360
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>>383110898
If you get to the end of the level it tells you [crates]/0
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>>383131389
Wasn't GTA3 gonna be on Gamecube?
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>>383114170
>6 years old
>get PS1
>"DON' T TOUCH THE LENS FUCKTARD"
>cave in and poke the lens
>they vibrate slightly for some reason
>worked fine for the 10 years I owned it

Maybe you shouldn't hamhand your electronics, man.
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>>383092923
Same with spyro 1 was ass 2 and 3 were good
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>>383089465
But PS1 is a shit console. It launched without analog sticks and despite having horrible loading times the games refused to not have FMVs every hour or so. People bought it because it was inexpensive, could play cds, and because the platform was actually supported unlike the n64 and Saturn. Sony did not have their shit together at all until the ps2. Crash is a good game but the characters and sound effects are annoying.
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>>383090334
You fucking faggot. I got MGS1 and 2 on launch day both times. I sold my fucking Super Nintendo (the redesigned one) to get MGS, (I regretted like 2 days later when I beat MGS and found out it was basically movie) Good game though.

Gran Turismo was based as fuck, so was GT2. All these games had DEMOS which fucking everybody played. I never played a full crash game but played the demos.

I switched back and forth between PS1 and N64. My brother was 3 years older than me and PS1 was considered very cool and hip and it also had a CD player which was a big deal back ten. I liked the N64 but looking back there was nothing released for it and N64 games were double the price in Canada as PS1 games. That said my most played games that gen were probably the 4 N64 wrestling games.
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>>383106646
Does he watch jojo?
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