what's the rarest element on earth and why they want it

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>>383086527
Make more Swedes

Just bomb them. Use AC130 gunships.

>>383087254
dude laser class lmao

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What the hell is that thing in OP's pic?

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>>383086527
You cant

>>383088150

Somewhere in the universe there is a synthetic specie that has evolved naturally. Basically they look like our robots, but they have evolved into that form and nobody created them.

They tried to make robots to go mine for them resources around the universe and send them back to their home planet. Since the creators are synthetic based, their robots are carbon based like we are. They think we are robots too so they kill us lots.

>>383088150

I'm 95% sure that it's from some anime(manga?) series called Muv Luv / Total Eclipse / Swarzenagenafoahsiofhapifha

I know almost jack about it, but I think those things are biological weapons that shoot lasers out of their eyes to shoot down flying things. That's about my limit of my knowledge of them.

I never got interested in the series but how come They were so hard to kill?

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>>383086527
>how do we stop ayyyy mining robots
With our own robots.

>>383089171

The BETA in general or the Laser Class?

Smaller BETA are not hard to kill, they're just huge compared to the average soldier and get fabricated really quickly.
Bigger BETA has some hard as fuck armor, something we thought impossible to achieve for a carbon based organism.
Laser BETA just shoots the fuck out of anything in a several km line of sight from them with crazy high precision. They actually didn't exist before they landed on Earth if I remember well, they have been created to counter our air based warfare.

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>>383088959
>Basically they look like our robots
It's far more likely that they'd look like this.

>>383089628
great series except for 3

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>>383089551
Yeah Laser Class was a new form that appeared when they got attacked from the air. They constantly adapt to everything making it hard to stop them.

>>383089782
So, how do you counter them?

>>383090282
Psychic teenagers controlling really big robots. How else?

>>383090282
Ever seen Bugs Bunny crossdress to confuse Elmer Fudd into not shooting him?

>>383090282
Self replicating AGI

>>383090282

You either fly in the stratosphere and bomb from there.
Or saturate the air of the hive you want to attack with iron dust so the laser gets refracted.

Problem is that in that world we don't have the production power to manufacture stratosphere shuttles or "iron dust" filled shells on an incredible large scale. Most of the world got rek'd by the ayliums

>>383090282

Oh also, Gravity Manipulation. Basically a gravity shield

>>383089551
You're wrong,laser class are part of the larger purpose which is mining, they just take longer to produce because they require G elements. Also, laser class shoot lasers which move at c,making them impossible to dodge.

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>>383086527
>>how do we stop ayyyy mining robots ?

>>383090971

>laser class are part of the larger purpose which is mining

They may be used for mining too but I'm pretty sure they didn't exist before BETA landed on Earth, and they got created to mostly shoot down planes

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>>383089306
>>383090985


why cant they use attack helicopter to do a laserjad , instead of using some unrealistic robot attached with jet engine ,
HAHAHAHAHAhHAHAH

>>383086527
Why don't they just make the metal on the planes reflective?

>>383090282
Has anyone considered reflective surfaces i think i just cracked their ultimate weapon.

>>383091519
Helis are too slow and boring

>>383091519
We speak English on this board.

>>383090282
Do really well in a short amount of time.
Also destroy their intel network

>>383091519
Bolo's make 100% sense in universe.

>>383091661
ごめんなさい

>>383091519

These are the evolutions of jets for full VTOL and super speed.

Also, it's a mecha series.

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>>383086527
Make Kasumi God Emperor

post the webm

you know the one

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>>383092018
NO

>>383092018

We don't need to show /v/ the snack time scene.

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>>383092018

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hey let's make this /v/ related
you can't get this game, the project died and it was never released

>>383091779

Super heavy tanks are not a viable military concept after 1950

>>383092957
They will be again when a cheap way to counter HEAT exists.

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I love lacrosse arc
Just want to let you guys know

>>383092957
With available technology sure. But you don't know what you're talking about if you think a bolo isn't the ultimate super weapon.

>>383093174
boring arc

TWIZZLERS

>>383093107
I don't bloody well think so, modern KEP rounds have more than enough penetration to level any reasonable amount of armor unless you are thinking of tank with like +1500mm armor, that would probably be enough to stop a modern KEP round and any tandem HEAT charge as well. But even if those two were rendered ineffective then there are new weapons systems that could theoretically already be utilized for the task of armor destruction.

>>383091661
Eishi Pilot 1: English can eat shit

>>383093263

Yes, the ones that are just one man siege engines you use to solo a planet.

Even then, most militaries would be leery about giving an AI direct combat role

>>383091570

Have you ever considered not talking like a constipated kangaroo?

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>>383091528
>>383091570

Too expensive and their lasers are too strong. The coating would burn off quickly or not even provide protection. If multiple beta are shooting you at the same time then you might as well not have even wasted your time putting the reflective coat on. The most they could do is withstand the beams for a few seconds.

>>383091362
I'm telling you they did. The laser fort class is invented for war.

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>>383093174
Does Age hate Kashiwagi? She helped the team out but never got invited to the hot spring. She's not even in that picture.

>>383093761
Not if it gave them as large an advantage as a bolo would. You could give it to the military of Maldives and they'd be able to conquer the world in a year.

>>383086527
>how do we stop ayyyy mining robots ?

Collapse the star if they have infested the system beyond retaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWwbMnXQ7bo

>>383094404
2based4them

>>383089628
WHY HAVE YOU INTERRUPTED THE PROCESS

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>>383094404
?

>>383092018
I-is that the one where the monster bites the girls head off?

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>>383095132
N-no you must be thinking about something else

Is there any redeeming value to this series beyond naked anime grills and a soap opera plot which keeps you going solely to see who dies/fucks someone next?

>>383092241

>it's Armored Core w/ bugs

FromSoft making a MuvLuv game when?

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>>383086527
>robots

You wat

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>>383095045
Yeah she finally got invited to stuff in that f a n d i s k but in the original trilogy she got shafted hard for some reason. Even that dumb bitch Akane got more scenes than her.

They are eating her and then they are going to eat me... ohy my goooooooooooood

>>383095890
Maybe fembro characters isnt popular in Japan or back then?

>>383095556
None at all.

>>383090282
Kill the brain ayy in each nest and they pretty much just flop over.

>>383090282
Using your Bankai

Why not capture some BETA and make them into cyborgs who can infiltrate the hive?

>>383096639
Guess what they did?

Sumika is shit and she nearly ruined Alternative just from her presence.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JICa_ZxBk

>>383092241
Fuuuuck Sidonia no kishi wheeeeennn

>>383095556
if you like mecha or monsters maybe

I recently finished MLA. Now I want to read KimiNozo. When the fuck is that coming out?

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Since this is /v/
Can someone post some thicc sumika?

>>383092241
EDF+ Muv Luv when?

Jinguuji-sensei was seen eating with another man.
Fucking whore

>>383095556
Naked anime girls are hardly a reedeming point for the series. All the sex scenes are complete shit that are better skipped except for Sumika being raped.

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Why is she the best?

>>383097560
Marimo's is good.

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>>383093289
Chotto

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>>383095556
i like when they back stabbed each other for their own interest.
that my guilty pleasure

>>383095556
the mech designs are nice?

>>383097665
Oh yeah hers was pretty good but mostly for the student-teacher dynamic and how she forced herself on you. The CG themselves aren't very good. I never did Yuuko's ending, is hers any good either?

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I really need some healthy pics of maburabus

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>>383097912
Yuuko's is good if you like the sort of thing where you fuck a dominant girl submissive

>>383086750
Impregnate Stella!

Fly to another planet without her!

>>383098000
I want to kiss marimo so bad

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>>383098180
Delete that image right now.

>>383098180
Fuck I think this was the only time I actually got sick to my stomach reading a VN. But then they ruin it by continually showing it in flashbacks.

>>383098180
Fuck off Soldier kun

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>>383098180

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how do you go from this...

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>>383098638
Oh boy here it comes!

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>>383098180

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>>383098638
to this?

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Why is Tama the best?

>>383098814
Chizuru > all

>>383097665
Something about MC's hands frightens me. They look like ogre hands.

>laser class never ever hit their own allies

Why don't they just strap a bunch of immobilized BETA to their TSFs then? Unless they did that in one of the other series. I only read up to Alternative.

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>>383098638
...to this?

>>383098180

This scene never made any fucking sense to me. How the fuck did they not notice the BETA sneaking up on her? Those things aren't exactly small or known for their stealthy tendencies. Was this like the Solid Snake of BETA?

Alternative really went overboard with a lot of the deaths that eventually the shock value wore off and you stopped caring.

>>383098180
>>383098638

I don't even have to look up the images in the archive to know this is the half-half sewed up corpse.

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>>383098919
I went into Muv-Luv expecting to be a Chizuru man, ended up leaving the first game and going forth as a Tama man.

>>383098814
I've done every girls h scene in extra and unlimited but hers. I don't know how anybody could look at her and want to fuck her. I liked her but not in the way to see her get torn in half.

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>>383099043
You'd have to find some way to keep them alive, BETA have to go back to the reactors for energy. Either you'd have to find a way to move around a reactor or return them to the reactor after every mission (which is a bad idea since BETA can communicate through the reactors), otherwise they'd just die quickly.

>>383099043
beta die without hive nutrients

>>383099378
I don't think of her in a sexual way, just love her.

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Time to remind people in /v/ who is the confirmed best Muvluv.

>>383099378
>see her get torn in half
Anon, you cheeky bastard.

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>>383099378
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>383099521
LT Hayase is the best muv luv. Extraverse hayase needs to die

>>383089684
3 is actually the best of the series.

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>>383099378
>>383099495
I should have paid attention more, anon you are a son of a bitch.

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>>383100012
I was surprised to find out she has the same VA as Azusa.

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>cool robots fighing ayys
>neat
>most of the plot is political bullshit
>gay

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>>383100776
Are you talking about a spinoff? The only political part of Alternative is the coup arc, and there's still some action in that.

>>383100776
The political and learning how people survive in the Unlimited world are some of the best parts.

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>>383100776
The politics arc was boring but there was some good stuff in it

>>383101587
FUCK THAT SWEDISH WHORE SHOOTING SAGIRI
GUY DID NOTHING WRONG AND WAS ABOUT TO SURRENDER

So the only way to prevent a character from dying is to not romance them? Or is it one of those things where the MC might as well be cursed to die unless you gets some pussy and gets the girl killed by association?

>>383089306
Oh man I just reverse image searched this and this is the first time I've ever heard of a Bolo Tank. These things are badass.

Should I bother watching or playing anoything post Alternative?

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>>383102063
Well in Unlimited it's revealed that a select few are leaving earth in a spaceship. The girl you romance is selected to go, but she wants you to go in her place. You can choose to stay on earth and fight a losing battle, or live and leave her to fight and eventually die.

In Alternative all the girls die. However, the protagonist goes back to his slice of life anime world, albiet without his memories

>>383102206
Depends how much you love Muvluv and time to spare reading multiple routes and spinoffs

>>383102206
ep 00 day after

>>383102024
Nah fuck him for trying to cuck you in Ayamine's route

>>383102391
Same anon, it really choked me up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwVdfPen2jA

>>383099397
Make a vehicle specifically designed to bind BETAs to itself. Just get new ones every time you go out. You'd basically only use it to close in on the laser class and get rid of them, anyway

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>>383102391
>without his memories

>>383100776
Even the politics was fucking stupid nihon banzai shit.

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It's too bad Muv-Luv is just full of wasted potential. Alternative was OK But the ending was shit and YAMATO DAMASHII was worse and Schnitzelmarket went in all the wrong directions.

One of these years I'll take those themes and make them into a good game. Just need to save up my dosh then go full NEET developer mode for a year or two.

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Why didn't they just reflect the lasers with mirrors?

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>>383102391
actually there is no option to leave in unlimited, you just get choose to die alone or with your waifu

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>>383102926
Oh yeah, it's been a while.

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>>383102832
>folder of ?
>no picture of meiya with a ? in a Muvluv thread

>>383102767
The real tragedy is we never got to see the rafale in action, and no one uses the mech zweihander.

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who /carry on/ here?

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This mad dog catches you with another woman. She's about to strike.

What do you do?

>>383103339
What an image.

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>>383103343
show her my meat processing plant if you know what I mean

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Have you bought your very own Jack Off Joe?

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>>383095556
It's one of the only good isekai/time travel anime as far as I know. If I could erase my memory of one game and replay it it would be this.

>>383097560
This scene almost ruined the entire game, felt like they were looking for an excuse to insert a fetish rather than a plot point.

Why dont humans create their own BETAs?

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I want to call Marimo "sensei" as she ravages me.

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>>383103339
Zutto, zutto mitsumeteta ~

>>383103049
It's funny because age likes her the best, but what happens to her in alternative just hurts even more.

Her voice actress should get more work.

>>383086527
>how do we stop ayyyy mining robots ?

Honestly? Disrupt their communication method.
They either communicate via light, or wave, or by psychic ability (since that bullshit exists in universe).

If they exist, we'd have a method of developing a way to fill the "airwaves" with a jamming signal, boost an existing signal, or block a signal with a barrier of some kind.

Without a method to communicate, they cannot build new types to overcome the blockage, and they cannot receive instruction from their "brains".

They shut down, and humanity can casually disassemble them at their leisure.

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>>383103501
SEEN EATING
WITH ANOTHER MAN

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>>383103762
They did

>>383099293
The last two deaths hit me.

"Meiya getting shit on by the universe and he final confession really made me kinda annoyed with Takeru. I get his reasons, but goddamn two games of making her another extremely viable option to be reduced to a "Nobel Confidant"."

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>>383104057
Why were these two cakes? Yuuko is probably to intelligent for a boyfriend but marimo is perfect.

>>383104302
Honestly, that would probably work, but even with the USSR's cloning program, making enough viable psychics to infiltrate the communications network is a fool's errand. The brain is a quantum computer capable of instruction on a planetary scale. A little chaff will not interrupt an operation that it is focused on winning.

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>>383104648
Marimo is too sexually ferocious for spineless japanese men

But man, would I love to have a woman like her.

>>383104657
Why overwhelm the brain when you can just copy an acknowledgement signal from another beta and spam it over the "airwaves" constantly?

Communication is a two way street. The brain NEEDS an acknowledgement signal to establish communication.

So, just blast it constantly.

You're not DDOSing the brain.
You're DDOSing the troops.

>>383086527
>aliens invade
>we're unable to stop them
>they up and leave a week later with all of our helium

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>>383104858
Why did this not happen? I know Walken has a family but I like this pairing a lot better

>>383103713
>features extreme production values for a visual novel
hahahah
>heavy use of pseudo animated sprites
This is almost like one of my Japanese animes
>movie quality soundtrack
not saying much
>hard science fiction
I strongly doubt this
>life and death drama, political intrigue, PTSD and pyschological trauma
I've seen these before 100 times.

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>>383105010
Marimo likes younger men.

>>383105035
Thanks for your input, fag. No one cares.
Keep in mind Alternative came out in 2006.

>>383105035
>i have no experience with the thing in question but let me give you my opinion

>>383105248
And we're getting an official release now. Didn't think this many people cared about muv-luv, a VN that didn't even get a shitty 2000s anime adaptation.

>>383105264
I have experience with shitty science-fiction, does that count?

>>383105531
No

>>383105516
I hope you never walk into /jp/'s kamige circlejerk.

>>383105581
Guess I'd better read Muv Luv then. Considering that this thing seems to be as longer than all three books of the Solar Cycle twice over it'd better be the best damn thing I've ever read.

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>>383105814
Extra is a slow start, especially the lacrosse bit. But it really picks up later.

>>383105615
What's wrong with it? Do they say it's the greatest VN of all time or something?

>>383105814
You'll probably hate it, please waste your time with it

What is the longest good VN?

>>383105814
Remember to like Sumika the most. Because if you like anyone else (Meiya especially), Alternative becomes kinda annoying with the interactions. Fun sci-fi ideas and decent final act, but Takeru is still as dense.

>>383104871
There's still the HR problem, but let's say that's moot. Alternative III revolved around using one or more battle groups carrying psychics, cloned or otherwise, in nearly every unit composition to blast the battlefield with signals desperately requesting communication and/or an end to hostilities. While it does seem that psychic nonsense is involved with running operations, in-universe and out-of-universe there is not enough known about how the logistics work to create effective chaff.
The BETA function as an extension of the hives' brains, and it's unlikely that they even need orders complex enough for a confirmation. They appear to be individually unintelligent and act only on their programmed instincts. Think RTS units, both while being directed and while idling. Some kinds of units automatically attack nearby enemies.

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>>383105814
Since you're actually going to try it, let me just say that extra is a bit of a slog since you need to at least do two routes. Unlimited to a lesser extent, but can still get a bit tiresome due to the overall length.

Alternative is really where the meat is and what everyone goes on about, but you need to play the other two first.

Also, don't go in with such a critical attitude. If you start up anything with super high expectations and trying to pick it apart, you're not going to have as much fun. Just enjoy it.

>>383091570
> i just cracked their ultimate weapon
Their ulitmate weapons are their numbers. They outnumber humans.

>>383106337
except its established that killing a brain causes betas under it to be disabled.

lack of communication would likely be the cause of that.

Regardless, it would work like Macross Frontier, where conflicting info is sent via psychic communication, confusing and disorganizing units and making them easy prey for even amateur pilots.

>>383106338
I felt Alternative was more of a slog at times than Extra. Granted, Alternative is better overall, but Alternative is highly overrated and Extra is highly underrated. There are so many fucking conversations in Alternative where it's just repeating the same thing over and over and over ad nauseam, especially nearly any conversation between Takeru and Yuuko. And at some point you're just screaming at Takeru to get his act together and stop pissing his pants each time something happens. He comes into Alternative with such an arrogant and haughty attitude and then fucking crumples at any sign of distress. It's still good and Takeru does get his act together but people act like Alternative is the holy grail and Extra is the pile of shit you have to wade through to get to it but that's simply not true, unless you just don't like the genre in general.

>>383086527
So is Muv Luv as good as people say?
Really worth the long 'wind-up time' until Alternative where it is supposed to get really good?

>>383106338
I went in knowing Alternative was the great game but I ended up really liking Extra and Unlimited too.

>>383086527
>what's the rarest element on earth and why they want it ?

QTs.

Can't cast spells with no Mana.

>how do we stop ayyyy mining robots ?

Turn off the factory.

>>383106338
>If you start up anything with super high expectations and trying to pick it apart, you're not going to have as much fun.
Not true at all. There's no better feeling than going in expecting shit and finding something great. This might be like the first time I saw 'Pain & Gain'.

>>383107553
>trope turned on its head
disgusting forced meme that's destroying fiction

>>383107018
I think so. At the time it felt long because I was just waiting for it to end to start alternative, but looking back it was fun on it's own as well.

It does a good job at taking the "overpowered MC" trope and turning it on it's head