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Holy fucking Christ, the PS1 fucking sucks. Took mine out of

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Holy fucking Christ, the PS1 fucking sucks. Took mine out of storage the other day and was reminded of how terrible this console is.

>Abysmal graphics. Texture warping and lack of anti-aliasing in EVERY 3D game.
>Isn't even good at doing 2D. Limited animation frames and framerate drops even in SNES-level games like Alundra.
>No analog controller at launch = majority of games only support d-pad. Even the ones that support it rarely let you use the right analog stick for the camera. Disgusting.
>CD quality music... with sound effects that sound worse than most Genesis games.
>Library consist of wannabe SM64 knockoffs, arcade ports, movie games and JRPGs that hadn't evolved since the late 80s. Complete fucking garbage.
>Poor build quality. Unreliable lasersand overall shit design with the cheapest plastic parts possible.
>Some of the worst load times known to man.

Why exactly is this a good system again? And don't finger your ass while you scream "sales numbers". I want a real argument. Sales don't mean shit unless you intend to tell me that Pabst Blue Ribbon is better than a good craft beer just because it sells more.

>inb4 haha N64 fans still mad that Sony won haha my faggot JRPGs haha xD
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>>383027557
(You)
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>>383027674
Why even bother replying?
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>>383027557
ps1 is the best thing to play music cds on.
ps1 is better than anything you or your family has ever invented.
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>>383027747
Because OP is an attention whore begging for (You) and im a nice guy
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>>383027779
t. Dumbass self proclaimed audiophile

Its the same as every other cd player.
>muh output
Fuck off
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>>383027557
Best of it's generation even with the shortcomings.
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>>383027779
>ps1 is the best thing to play music cds on.
Congratulations, you are the most retarded person on 4chan.
>ps1 is better than anything you or your family has ever invented.
That would imply that feces is better than anything I've invented, and I make a pretty good grilled cheese.
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>>383027557
>shitting on PS1's audio
it's a audiophiles dream.
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>>383027557
Crash Bandicoot
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>>383027931
>>383027914
not proclaiming to be an Audiophile, but if you go to an Audiophiles house you will see one of these. that simple.
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>>383027923
>Best of it's generation even with the shortcomings.
Nope. It wasn't. It was literally worse at doing everything than either of the two other consoles. It was raped in 3D graphics by N64, raped in 2D graphics by Saturn, raped in multimedia features by Saturn, raped in quality of games by both N64 and Saturn, and is riddled with underdeveloped ideas.
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>>383027557
gr8 b8 m8, or you are 10 years old pick one
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>>383028181
>It was raped in 3D graphics by N64

> garoud shading
> blur filter over everything

t. nintendo revisionist.
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>>383027557

Spyro the Dragon
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>>383028181
(You)
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>>383028181
> What is game library and the number one determining factor for any console in any generation.
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>Why exactly is this a good system again?

It had good games, unlike N64.
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>>383028248
>t. nintendo revisionist.
Hahaha look at this faggot, look at him and laugh. First off, it's called "gouraud shading" retard, secondly, there's nothing wrong with it, and most games didn't even use it outside of SM64. The "blur filter" is called anti-aliasing and it's the reason that N64 games didn't look like hot shit in comparison to the pixelated, warped mess known as PS1 games.
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>>383028449
K.
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>he thinks the N64 had AA because of emulators
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>>383028420
>It had good games, unlike N64.
Wrong faggot. The PS1 was the console with the dirt library. Literally not one single game on that system is better than an 8/10. The "killer app" is a 3D Final Fantasy with gameplay that hadn't evolved since the mid 80's. The N64 has THE most highly rated games of all time, on any system. Keep crying just because mommy didn't buy you Ocarina of Time.
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>>383028109
You will see enough dumb shit there anyway.
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>>383027779
>ps1 is the best thing to play music cds on.
oh my god when will you audioshitters STOP
IT'S SNAKE OIL
THE AUDIO CHIPSET ISN'T MAGICAL
MODERN DACs ARE INFINITELY BETTER
STOP
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>>383028557
>he thinks the N64 had AA because of emulators
Who in the fuck said anything about emulators?
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>>383028769
Don't bother arguing with him. Sony ponies operate on sub-autism levels of intelligence.
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>>383027557
Thank god it actually had games though. The hardware was garbage.
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>>383028738
Have fun getting motion sickness from the N64s blurry graphics and awful framerates.
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>>383028181
>raped in 2D graphics by Saturn,
unless you wanted literally any alpha at all, lmao
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>>383028420
/thread

>>383028738
N64 only has a handful of good games. There's a lot more good games and hidden gem on PS1 than on N64.
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>>383029221
Swimming textures, jittering vertices and endless Z-fighting are going to give you motion sickness far more quickly than a bilinear filter ever will.
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>>383028181
>implying anyone cares about specs
Ps1 had games, good games, that's all, Saturn was the coffin of sega, can't say anything about n64
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>>383028248
Not that fag, and I love my PS1 JRPGs, but you are legitimately retarded. The N64's 3D graphics look a hundred times better than the PS1. Face it: the PS1 may have amazing games, but are were ugly as fuck.
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>>383029348
>Thank god it actually had games though.
There's a lot more good games and hidden gem on PS1 than on N64.
It didn't. Name me the 5 best games on the system. Not a single game on the PS1 even appears on Metacritic's top 100 games list until you get into the fucking 30's with Tekken... a port. The entire system is filled with complete garbage. The ONLY stand out genre on the entire system is SNES-level JRPGs which only an autist could love.
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It was the best console of its time. It had a huge, varied library of games and besides the very early ones, most of them look, sound and feel great. Games had detail, rich gameplay and most of the time, big replay value. Performance wise it was alright for its time. Its demo discs are a little treasure trove of early versions of games and a source of gameplay time for others. I honestly cannot think of something negative about the console, i mean hell its also easily hackable so you can play all the games you want.
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Are...Are we really going to shitpost about a 20 year old console? Is this what we have devolved to?
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>>383029670
It's more interesting to argue about consoles with games. And more obviously flawed hardware.
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>>383027779
>ps1 is the best thing to play music cds on.
I thought this was b8 but after a quick goolge it appears this is actually a thing. People seem to be going fucking crazy over them, might dig mine out to see if it is the right version for a bit of fun
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>>383029518
>Metacritic scores suddenly matter when a Nintendo games get a good one

Never disappoint /v/.
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Hey guys, remember when people called Gran Turismo "Grain Turismo"? Truly the greatest console war.
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>>383029518
Name the top 5 N64 games and I'll name a better game in each genre.
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>>383027557
Neither console was truly great at 3D rendering. The PS1 was warpy and jittery; the N64 was blurry and laggy. I personally prefer the PS1 aesthetic but that's probably just because it was the one I had as a kid.

The PS1 won because its games were more plentiful, more varied, cheaper to produce, and (in many people's eyes) more interesting. A lot of N64 games were quite cartoony; the PS1 got more shooters and generally darker games.

I don't remember who, but someone involved with PS1 production once said "everyone is 17 when they play video games". Adults want to go back to their teenage selves for an hour, and young children want to play more "grown-up" games with guns and aliens. I think this was very true then (and still applies to some degree today), so the market for all the N64 cartoon games was actually quite small.
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>>383028738

The salt from being chucked by Squaresoft never ends
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>>383029979
>the PS1 got more shooters and generally darker games.
Really? Some of the N64's best-remembered games (Turok, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark) were FPS. I'm not sure what PS1 FPS games are considered classics desu.
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>>383030140
boring as fuck, post something with some real gameplay like Parasite Eve
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>>383029868
>Never disappoint /v/.
What would you rather me do? Make a completely subjective argument? I can scream "Banjo is better than Spyro" all day long, it doesn't mean shit. You have to have an objective basis for comparison. In this case, Metacritic demonstrates that, all in all, N64 has vastly more highly rated games.

>>383029903
What's the point? You're just going to spout some delusional shit, like saying that Medievil is better than Majora's Mask. Literally the ONLY genre that PS1 has locked down are turn-based JRPGs. The N64 has the absolute best games of every other genre and ratings prove it. But here you go anyway:

Adventure - Majora's Mask
Platformer - Banjo-Kazooie
Shooter - Perfect Dark
Strategy - Ogre Battle 64
Racing - F-Zero X

Now go ahead and tell me about how Alien Resurrection is better than Perfect Dark and all your other retarded opinions.
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>>383030147
Medal of honor and call of duty maybe?
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>>383030373
>Medal of honor and call of duty maybe?
Neither of those games holds half of a shit-drenched candle to Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, DOOM 64, or Turok.
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>>383030140
>all of those faggoty turn-based JRPGs
Lmao oh yeah, I'm fucking envious.
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Critic reviews or user reviews?
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>>383027557
>Why exactly is this a good system again?

LOTSOGAMES
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>>383027557
>earthquake simulator machine
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>>383030480
For you maybe, call of duty is still alive, medal of honor was THE WWII shooter not so long ago, the games you mention are all dead
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>>383030615
>Critic reviews or user reviews?
Your post needs context senpai.
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>>383029670
would you rather another /pol/ thread?
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You're all a bunch of retarded fagchildren. Both PS1 and N64 defined what was literally the diamond age of gaming, with timeless masterpieces that are held with the highest regards to this date. I grew up with the N64, but emulated a bunch of PS1 while in middle and high school (as well as N64 games I didn't get to play or wanted to replay). Saying shit of either one of them shows that you are either:
1. underage
2. a company shill
3. owner of one of the world's shittiest tastes
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>>383030140
It's beautiful.
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>>383030147
Well, Medal of Honor had its first instalment on PS1. That was huge, regardless of whether you like it yourself. I also played a shitton of Rainbow Six, before I knew about the PC version.

But I did say "shooter" and not "FPS"- I was thinking of stuff like Dino Crisis and MGS. Also games less focused on shooting like Tomb Raider, and less popular (but good) military/spy adventures like In Cold Blood.
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>>383030359
Not that anon and I'm usually a Nintenbro but
>Platformer - Banjo-Kazooie
Spyro.
>Strategy - Ogre Battle 64
Final Fantasy Tactics
>Racing - F-Zero X
Wipeout, and it's not even close.
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Nintenbabies are still mad after 20 years that their console got no games.
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>>383030726
Well, do you pay more attention to user reviews or critic's when looking up metacritic scores?
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>>383027557
>Isn't even good at doing 2D. Limited animation frames and framerate drops even in SNES-level games like Alundra

Technically it didn't have support for sprites. It was easier to make a flat polygon and put a texture on it. Which is what they did.
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>>383030719
>For you maybe, call of duty is still alive, medal of honor was THE WWII shooter not so long ago, the games you mention are all dead
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The fact a series has been raped to death means that it's better? Are you seriously this retarded?

Let me tell you something, your shitty WW2 campaign shooter is fucking garbage. Perfect Dark blows it out of the water in every single way imaginable. Does MoH or CoD have customizable characters? What about dozens of guns with secondary firing modes? What about customizable bots with personalities, fighting styles and even team colors? What about a shooting range? What about literally hundreds of unlockable weapons, maps, features, cheats and secrets? Can your friend play as the fucking enemy AI in the campaign mode? Can your piece of shit games do anything half as good as Perfect Dark?

No, they can't. Shut your whore mouth.
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>>383030480
The original Medal of Honor and Underground are better than all that shit.
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>>383030359
not him but
>adventure
soul reaver
>platformer
crash bandicoot
>shooter
syphon filter
>racing
ridge racer 4
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>>383031089
See >>383031086
Your opinion is shit and you are retarded.
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>>383030823
N64 defined Nintendo going to shit and the killing of most of their classic 2d franchises.

PS1 and SNES are the 2 best consoles ever made with the best games library.
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>>383031086
What the hell is perfect dark?
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>>383031108
>>adventure
>soul reaver
No way. I love Soul Reaver but it's blatantly unfinished and unpolished, even next to Majora's Mask.
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>>383031108
>soul reaver
Graphics suck and the gameplay is less advanced, varied and interesting in every single way.
>crash bandicoot
See above.
>syphon filter
Comparing shovelware to one of the most highly rated FPS games ever made. Fucking lmao...
>ridge racer 4
Awful. Just awful.

Here we have the tastes of a Sony pony folks.
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>>383031362
>syphon filter
>shovelware
retard
i'm a pcbro ackshully
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>>383027557
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>>383031362
not any of the guys you're arguing with but holy fuck you literally have no arguments
no gaems
no arguments
how can nintendo toddlers even compete??
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At what age did you realize that the N64 is trash and PS1/Saturn is the superior choice?
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>>383029979 (Me)
>>383030147
Also see top 20 sales of N64 vs PS1 games.
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Whats sad is knowing the majority of people who praise the ps1 shouldnt even be allowed to speak on it. Its just a bunch of dumb kids who grew up with the ps3 and ps4 who think "Oh its also a playstation it must have been good!"

Retards. Had no idea the quantity of shit that came out for it. How many of you were tricked into renting Independence Day? The god awful loading times. The jittery earthquaking textures.

A couple good games for it does not justify it as a decent console. It was utter shit.
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>>383030960
>Spyro.
Banjo literally does everything that Spyro does, but 10x better, with vastly larger environments, better graphics, better music and more interesting gameplay.
>Final Fantasy Tactics
FFT is good, but not better than OB64.
>Wipeout, and it's not even close.
Yeah... wipeout is also on N64 and it isn't better than F-Zero X.
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>>383030825
There's just so much, anon
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>>383031649
>The god awful loading times. The jittery earthquaking textures.
At least it had games.
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>>383031649
PS1 had quality and quantity
N64 had less quality and zero quantity outside of Nintendo and Rare,shit Nintendo had nearly no japanese support and that already says everything you need to know.
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Jesus, who cares this much about proving which 20 year old console is superior? Both are fine and each have their own supply of excellent games.
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>>383031556
>haha you have no argument because I disagree with you haha xD
>has no argument
Almost every single game I'm "arguing" against is literally shovelware, shit that literally got like 71/100 ratings. The fact that this is the best shit you faggots can even come up with is a testament to how utterly terrible the PS1 library is.
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>>383031649
>rented awful games
>therefore console is shit
ok anon but do keep in mind that the n64 would have had just as much shovelware if cartridges weren't so obscenely expensive
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I'd take the worst PS1 game over the best PS3/PS4 game.
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>>383031563
when I was 10 and I learned how to play pirated games on my PS1 and Saturn
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>>383031926
>graphics suck
>le shovelware meme
>i don't like this game!
those aren't arguments you dumbfuck
what the hell is wrong with you
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>>383031926
Meanwhile N64kids still argue that Mario Party and Goldeneye are the best games ever made because they only played 20 titles in their entire life.
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Reminds me. Did anyone save those images from /vr/ that had a huge list of 2D Playstation games with the annotations of which games were which?
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>>383032069
Even the worst PS3 game is better than Bubsy 3D.
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>>383027557
Nintendo 64 had Superman 64. That should be enough to put the Playstation on the pole position.
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>>383027557
As an ps1 kid, i always wanted a 64. It just had better games (i don't like jrpg's)
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PS1 had the stronger and more varied library.

N64 had some GREAT games, but they were like 7 of them.

Saturn is the one who was the loser kid of the gen. It had a super weak library, and although the 2D technicalities were better, it often had fewer great 2D games. Often the 2D exclusive games were ugly slow paced JRPGS. The only ting it had goign for it was Sega first party games, Arcade ports (both 2D and 3D). If you want to play Virtua Fighter, Panzer Dragoon, Radiant Silvergun, Sega Rally Cross, then it's your system.
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>>383029493
Meanwhile it's the only console with both software and hardware hacks just to remove the blurriness from games.
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How can the Shovelware64 even compete?
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>>383031757
>>383030140
Truly the GOAT age of JRPGs.
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>>383027557
PS1 still got better third party support than N64 and way better RPGs, enough said.
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For every 1 good game on N64 the PS1 had 10. This isn't even a debate.
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>>383031860
>PS1 had quality and quantity
>lying on a Taiwanese picture board

For what purpose? Quantity yes. Quality.. um no.
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>>383032318
It can't
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>>383032437
For every 1 great game on N64 the PS1 had 9 good games and 1 great game.
That's how it really is.
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>>383027557
Fuck you, you don't know shit, it's the best gaming console out there and has the best games ever. Games like Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil 2 were revolutionary. Stick to playing your favorite Nintendo Switch you fucking punk. I knew that /v/ is a fucking shithole but this is just another level of stupidity
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>>383032629
>Games like Metal Gear Solid were revolutionary.
yeah, they turned vidya away from gameplay and towards the cinematic garbage it is today
MGS is fucking awful, it's bad as a game and worse for its influence.
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Without mentioning a JRPG, racer, fighting game, or space shooter, list 10 good ps1 games
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>>383032858
What's wrong anon, why do you hate racers, fighting games and space shooters?
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Holy fucking Christ, the Atari fucking sucks. Took mine out of storage the other day and was reminded of how terrible this console is.

>Shitty as hell graphics
>Shitty plastic and ugly looking piece of shit
>The library fucking blows, literally no good games

How did anyone fucking buy this shit? I have better games on my fucking phone
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>>383032760
You are such a fucking moron jesus christ, I hope you die
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>>383032986
There's a reason people don't really talk about the Atari any more. Consoles may as well have began with the NES.
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>>383032858
Tomba 2
Resident Evil 1-3 (3 games)
Metal Gear Solid
Crash 1-3 (3 games)
Spyro 1-3 (3 games)

11 games there you go
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>>383033023
You MGSfags wouldn't know a good game if it smacked you in the face. MGS3 and 5 have gameplay that's miles better than the rest but you don't want to hear about it because muh story.

MGSfags deserve every thing awful thing that happens to them.
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>>383032858
Ace Combat 2
Resident Evil 2
Symphony of the Night
Crash 2
Klonoa
Spyro
Soul Reaver
Medievil
Metal Gear Solid
Silent Hill
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>>383033138
Get ready for some redditor to post a disco wojak and call you a jive turkey
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>console kiddies arguing over who is the least shit
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>>383033218
Both medal of honor
Call of duty
Nuclear dawn
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>>383028181
And yet it sold like 5 times as much as both of those combined.
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>>383032858
Easy,i'll even name only one per series

Klonoa
Jumping Flash
Kagero 2
Ghost in the Shell
Devil Dice
Tenchu 2
Resident Evil 2
Silent Bomber
Harmful Park
Ore no Ryouri
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>>383033218
Take out the shit game and it's 10.

>>383033404
PC at the time was excellent but didn't really compare desu. Every platform had something to offer which is more than can be said nowadays.
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>this thread
It's amazing how 20 years later people are still upset over how their favorite toy wasnt as popular as the PS1, like get a life already lmao
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>>383032858
> 'Every genre of game that doesn't appear on the N64 shouldn't count because of reasons'
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>>383033624
>And don't finger your ass while you scream "sales numbers". I want a real argument.
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>>383032552
That's still a win for the ps1.
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PS1 was the superior console

It literally destroyed the N64
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You people are retarded.
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>>383033650
>Ore no Ryouri

Muh nigga,best cooking game ever
https://youtu.be/iWrLYTJDYr4?t=10s
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>>383034198
Not saying otherwise, pal.
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>>383032858
>>383032858
Resident Evil 1, 2, 3
Silent Hill
Abe's Oddysey
Crash Bandicoot 2, 3
Apocalypse
Soul Reaver
Tomba
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>>383031947
Don't you get it? Nintendo babies are so unable to make informed consumer decision that papa Nintendo needs to carefully curate every game on their console else the poor little babby wastes their GBPs on a game they don't like.
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>>383033218
>>383033262
>>383033592
>>383033650
>>383034443
>not one mention of Tomb Raider
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>>383033650
>Silent Bomber
That game is so fucking dope
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>>383034640
Tomb Raider wasn't that great to begin with,PS1 is full of stellar games but that ain't one of them.
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>>383027557

go outside
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>>383034186
Sorry nintenbabby, the market has spoken, nobody cared about the N64 back then aside from some manchild americans who couldn't let go of Nintendo. Seriously, look it up, the N64 sold like 0 units outside the US.
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>>383032760
Tried games like Majora's Mask,Ocarina of Time,Spyro and Crash,they're all great games,but god...Metal Gear Solid is fucking boring and awful.
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>>383032858
-Medal of Honor
-Ape Escape
-Resident Evil 2
-Tomb Raider 2
-Yu Gi Oh! Forbidden Memories
-Klonoa
-Crash Bandicoot 2
-Metal Gear Solid
-Soul Reaver
-Army Men: Sarge's Heroes

Now name me 10 good N64 games that are not developed by Nintendo or Rare.

Superman 64 doesn't count btw :^)
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>>383032858
>good ps1 games

The Adventure of Little Ralph
Silent Hill
Symphony of the Night
Resident Evil 1,2,3
oddworld
Oddworld: Abe's Exodus
Metal Gear Solid
Rapid Reload
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>>383029518
I dunno about best but my top 5 on PS1 is

Mega Man 8
Tales of Eternia
Valkyrie Profile
Symphony of the Night
DoDonPachi
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PS1 had a really great 2D library too. Some were ports, or multi-plat though.
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>>383035618
>>383035731
These alone kill the Nintenbro.
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>>383032318
i wish they still made game covers like this
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ITT:Buttmad Nintentoddler still mad over 20 years later
You know what the PS1 had over the N64?
A better controller.
The N64 could of been full of VR for all I care but I won't touch that shit with a controller like that
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Quantity matters. Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 are probably better than any single game on the PSX, but once you've finished those, then what? That's only 2 games. There's very little else on the system that's essential.
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>>383035731
PS1 and Saturn 2D graphics are so good, I wish there was less of the garish 3D shit
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>>383035965

I think it more kills the Sega-bro. I'm starting to think that the PS1 had a stronger 2D library than the Saturn, which was supposed to be it's specialty. The Saturn's 2D capabilities blow the PS1 out of the water, but in terms of software, PS1 is just better.

For the N64, you can't forget how mind blowing Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 were. They were the first big console 3D games ever, and they set the path for a lot of 3d games later. They may seem a little bland now, but they were trend setters.

PS1 seems to be the sweet spot middle ground console, can do 2D and 3D good enough, so it pleases everyoen and it's cheap.

Keep in mind, I'm using at the time standards to judge them, so the Saturn's library is still great since it has so many Arcade ports. Now you can just fire up an Arcade emulator to play the originals instead of home ports, so that's not an option in 1997.
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>>383035618
>>383035731
Honestly, 2D games just aren't all that intriguing compared to the immersion of 3D. I'm actually surprised that Sony approved so many 2D-only titles for the console... the idea of 2D AAA games released after the SNES seems so quaint.
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>>383027557
At the time, 3d graphics, let alone, 3d graphics in your home, were amazing.

People shit themselves over virtua fighter.

You had to have been there.

-t. 35 year old
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I want to go back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVoQTpD_1sg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybyNfh9ZiWc

>>383036460
The majority of the best games ever made are 2D so your argument goes into the trash
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>>383036460
Kill yourself.
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>>383036460
you're not welcome here
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>>383029348
>are going to

Holy shit kid, you make it sound like we didn't actually grow up with these consoles. Stick to the post 07 HD era where you clearly belong.
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>>383030960

what a joke, you can't be this delusional

>>383031108
now you... you're just retard
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>>383036105
Kids who had an N64 will never know the joy of picking up some random bargain bin game for a couple dollars and finding a totally obscure gem that turns out to be pretty good.
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>>383036385
The Saturn was a 2D powerhouse but I think it being designed specifically for 2D games is a misconception. IIRC there were some articles and interviews on Sega 16 or Sega Retro that the Saturn was designed around the 3D games on Sega's Model 2 arcade boards.
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>>383034706
TR and to a lesser extent TR2 were superb if you're into exploration and atmosphere

they're criminally underrated imo
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>>383036587
In your opinion what are the best 2D games ever made?
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>>383036460

Symphony of the Night is my fave game of all time.
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>>383027557
>CD quality music

Not exactly. Some games used Redbook standard (CD) audio, but others used a tracker format similar to MIDI. e.g. FF7's soundtrack is MIDI quality. It keeps the soundtrack's filesize down so there's more room on the disc for other oversized data, like FMVs. (cinematic video scenes) A Redbook soundtrack would easily require 500+ MB of space, depending on the number of tracks.
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>>383037684
>e.g. FF7's soundtrack is MIDI quality.

Awesome score btw.

>A Redbook soundtrack would easily require 500+ MB of space, depending on the number of tracks.

I was blown to find out that Wipeout 3 is actually only like 75 MB, and the rest is audio.
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>>383036092
>I don't know how to hold the N64 controller
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>n64 has the best and highest rated games of all times
yeah all 5 of them
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>>383037419
>TR and TR2
>criminally underrated imo
wtf

Those were some of the most hyped games of the time. Lara Croft was erverywere in non gaming mainstream at the time.

TR2 was one of the most sold games up to that point in time.
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>>383037614
A top 5?
Akumajo Dracula X
Super Metroid
Chrono Trigger
Castlevania SotN
Final Fantasy 6
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>>383039062
Man, you have top tier taste.
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>>383036105
Look at this pseudo-intellectual falseflagging faggot. "2 games, what else is there?". Nice try retard. I guess nobody played Goldeneye, Mario Kart, Banjo, Starfox 64 or any of the other great games huh? And that isn't even counting the gems like Ogre Battle 64, Tetrisphere, DOOM 64, Blast Corps, so many more. What a fucking shit opinion.
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>>383039062

>Essential pleb core
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>>383039216
OP give it a break,your thread is only decent because there is a normal discussion about the PS1 going on.

>>383039325
I would have listed "non-mainstream" 2D games in a top 10/20/50 but honestly i think those are the best picks for a top 5.
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>>383039216
n64:
>388 games

psx:
>2451 games
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>>383028557
The N64 had AA before anybody else except some Sega arcade machines.
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>>383037649
>>383039062
Okay I mean to each their own, I'm not going to try convincing you that your tastes are somehow "wrong". Everyone likes different stuff.

Of the games you listed, I played and really enjoyed Super Metroid. I played Chrono Trigger and one of the Castlevanias (can't remember which) and found that I couldn't really get into them. Similarly I played LoZ:ALttP- I really enjoyed the atmospheric intro with the music and the rain and the mystery etc... then you get into the castle or whatever it was and it's mostly generic pot-smashing.

The thing is, as much as I enjoyed Super Metroid, I enjoyed Prime more. A 3D world is, I think, intrinsically more interesting than a 2D one. For sure Super Metroid's world is a lot more interesting than a lot of shitty generic 3D games, but I don't think it's possible for the best 2D games to be more engrossing than the best 3D ones.

I can think of one game I really love which wouldn't have benefited much from 3D (Papers Please) and another which probably wouldn't have worked at all in 3D (Spelunky). But just imagine Super Metroid recreated in 3D to the same quality as Prime- it would have been pretty fucking fantastic.
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>>383040929

>I'm a 00' kid who grew up with the gamecube
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>>383041227
Pretty much that
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>>383041227
[blog]Mid-90s but I lagged behind technologically due to family's lack of money. I had the PS1 from a young age. I did have a gamecube later but a PS2 or XB1 would probably have been a better fit for me in retrospect.
I was never a fanboy of any system/company.[/blog]

Your opinion is not more valid than someone else's simply because you grew up with different games, though. Nobody can be completely subjective about something they've been doing and enjoying since they were a young child; we all have some rose tinted specs on here. I expressed my viewpoint and I think I did it in a calmer manner than you did.
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As a nintendo collector, I have the full N64 library of games. People saying the N64 had just a few good games know nothing about the system.

I'll list only the exclusives (not counting dreamcast ports that were one generation ahead)


-conker's bad fur day
-mario 64
-banjo kazooie
-banjo tooie
-donkey kong 64
-bettle adventure racing
-star wars racer
-excitebike 64
-san francisco rush 1, 2 and 2049
-wave race 64
-perfect dark
-007 goldeneye
-007 the world is not enough
-turok 1
-turok 2
-turok 3
-gauntlet legends
-custom robo 1 and 2
-star wars rogue squadron
-star wars battle for naboo
-star fox 64
-mischief makers
-kirby 64
-goemon great adventure
-jet force gemini
-duke nukem zero hour
-sin and punishment
-winback
-aidyn chronicles
-paper mario
-hybrid heaven
-pokemon stadium 1 and 2
-ogre battle 64
-mario party 1 2 and 3
-f-zero x
-road rash 64
-blast corps
-starcraft 64
-wwf no mercy
-mario kart 64
-diddy kong racing
-snowboard kids 1 and 2
-mickey speedway usa
-the legend of zelda ocarina of time
-the legend of zelda majora's mask
-castlevania legacy of darkness
-mystical ninja goemon
-pokemon snap
-space station sillicon valley
-body harvest
-duck dodgers
-yoshi story
-indiana jones and the infernal machine
-bomberman hero
-1080 snowboarding
-mario tennis
-mario golf
-harvest moon 64
-animal forest
-super smash bros
-killer instinct gold
-robot rocket on whells
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>>383038382
If you know the secret of holding the 64 controller, please share.
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It had the M rated games everyone wanted to play.
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>>383042992
If I was to list the PS1 games, it'd take multiple posts. What's your point?
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If your parents bought you a N64 over a PS1 it shows that they didn't love you enough.
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>>383043487
yeah, i'm sure your parents love you when they bought you the off brand legos too
what were those even called? i wasn't poor enough to know
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>>383043269
Kek. As the owner of an N64, well done sir.
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>>383027557
Better game library than N64 by miles, that's why I had one & absolutely loved it. Best console ever in my opinion.
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>>383043269

Just read the comment you moron. It's the answer to people saying the n64 only has 5 ou 6 good games. That's not a list of exclusive games, but of GOOD exclusives.
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I still haven't gotten to play every amazing PS1 game, there is hundreds domestic I never got to, and thousands of imports I never got to try.

N64 had like 10 games tops worth playing and owning the console for.

Saturn was kind of a non-issue at the time, in the states.
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>>383045645
PLAY SATURN NOW
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>>383038382
I only have two arms guy.
Sorry i'm not an incest mutant like you
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>>383046321
Sure, let me just go to my local game shop and buy Panzer Dragoon Saga.
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>>383029629
>It was the best console of its time.
I don't really think anything else has done better in its own time since.

Best console ever, not even joking. There again, I'm currently playing Blaze and Blade on mine, so clearly I have shit taste.
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>>383046321

>Padded list for failed console

All the time. Just like Wii or N64, or anything else. They always pad these lists with forgettable or bad games.

A lot of those games are straight up boring (MM8, Deep Fear, Clockwork Night 1/2, etcEarthworm Jim), or had better ports (Duke 3D, Resident Evil).

When you strip it down, the quality Saturn games boil down to:

1. Panzer Dragoon 1/2
2. Arcade Ports
3. Sega Arcade ports

Note the Multi-plat games that would NOT make a Playstation list, like Metal Slug, Vandal Hearts, or mega Man 8 would NEVEr make a top Playstation list.
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>>383047126
The Saturn shmups library alone is amazing and you are wrong anyway.
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>>383033650
RE 2 is better on N64, nigger.
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>>383027557
you pretty much nailed it

sony was able to meme the high cost of the cartridges into the normies

every magazine was like that, talking about how the graphics were better on N64 but the audio quality was better on the disc based system
>implying normies of the time would play using anything other than the tv speakers
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>>383048004
Or maybe it was the fact Nintendo was the modern EA of the 90s and actively fucked over many developers.
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>>383046321
I did.

It was called going to an Arcade, anon.
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it has a lot of experimental games that were able to exist due to low development cost and a demographic other than elementary school age children
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>>383047894
Its not,it has some extra content but that's about it.
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>64 gfx
What use is anti-aliasing and a better draw distance if you have nowhere to store textures and the level design is square as fuck.
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>>383050623

PS1 3D is also parkinsons, and has only been fixed recently in emulation.
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>Old console
>First argument is "graphics are bad"
Ok, stopped reading there, I have already reached my limit today thanks.
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>>383049458

not him, but... it had extra content, faster loadings, and better graphics. The downside was the low quality cgs, but who cares about that?
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OKAY GUYS, but really, not taking into consideration shooters, racing, fighting, RPGs, adventure, plataformers, stealth, beat em up and sports, is there anything good on the PSX?
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>>383045645

>thousand of ps1 games worth playing
>10 N64 games

I guess you just have bad taste.
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>>383050970
Not a great example. The jitter just looks like she's breathing/shaking from adrenaline. It actually looks better than the "fix".
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>>383051920
Low quality backgrounds,music and fmvs.
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>>383052003
The simcity 2k and theme park ports were nice.
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>>383052210
>The jitter just looks like she's breathing/shaking from adrenaline.

She does have a breathing animation, and that's why the model warping is so extreme. She's supposed to move a little bit, but because of the warping, she's melting constantly. If she did not have a breathing animation, she would not warp at all.

It's in fact a great example, because of the subtle movements.
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>>383052115
That's it.
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>N64 fans STILL holding that L

Must be rough.
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>>383031757
>That fucking murrican Castlevania cover
Lmao, why.
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>>383027557
Here is your (You)
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>>383027557
if you don't like the console then throw it away ^^ why waste time to whine about 20+ year old things on korean ice fishing forum?
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>>383037684
>MIDI quality

Please stop?
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Nintendo autists are still mad that the PS1 ushered in the golden age of video games and the N64 is the console no one remembers.
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>>383035618
>Tear Ring Saga
Even ps1 had a fire emblem, meanwhile n64...
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>>383054587
Langrisser IV is better than both
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>Nintendo autists are still mad that the PS1 ushered in the golden age of video games
Actually the PS1 ushered in the dark age, with each generation getting progressively worse after.

>the N64 is the console no one remembers.
Lmfao good one faggot, you mean the #1 most popular retro console despite selling 1/3 as many units as the PS1. It also has THE most highly rated games on any console.

How does it feel being a fucking potato?
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>>383055643
>Actually the PS1 ushered in the dark age, with each generation getting progressively worse after.

PS2 has one of the best libraries in the history of mankind.

If anything, the Xbox ushered in the dark ages.
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>>383055913
360 did that, original Xbox was pretty tight. Actually, even the early 360 was decent.
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>>383055643
The N64 was a two genre machine,if anything Nintendo tried to start a dark age by selling a machine with very few good games and tried to kill its competition using the lowest tactics available.
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>>383050623
>What use is anti-aliasing and a better draw distance if you have nowhere to store textures and the level design is square as fuck.
Nice bullshots faggot. You pick the worst looking picture possible from a fucking LAUNCH TITLE and compare it to a picture of of a game released 3 fucking years into the PS1's life cycle, played via emulator no less...

>pic related
Get a load of this retard. If PS1 tried running Banjo-Kazooie it would fucking implode. Spyro's tiny ass babyshit environments don't hold a candle to the massive worlds of BK.
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>>383055643
>Actually the PS1 ushered in the dark age
Just because the GC was just as shit as the N64 doesn't mean that the PS2 wasn't the undisputed golden age of gaming

>the #1 most popular retro console
Oh you mean among normies that pretend they actually played OoT when it came out?
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Fuck, meant to attach this to >>383056331
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>>383027557
Believe it or not the graphics were super impressive at the time.
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>>383035269
>Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories
Anon, please. I like the game too because of the fusion system, but it is one of the worst designed card games ever.
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It has a very good library.

Y'know, the most important part of any console. PS1 and PS2 both shined in this department.
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Microsoft and Nintendo brought the dark age of video games
One bringing dlc and online trash, the other bringing casual shit
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>"Microsoft and Nintendo brought the dark age of video games"
>Nintendo, literally the company that saved the video game industry from extinction during the market crash and set the standard for every game developer to come
What a retard.
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>>383056519
They still are
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>>383056519
I would know, I bought both an N64 and PS1 on launch day, and the PS1 was never impressive. When games like Medievil and Metal Gear Solid were being compared to graphical beasts like Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye, it was a fucking sad sight.
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>>383056958
>Nintendo, literally the company that saved the video game industry from extinction during the market crash
First, Nintendo already existed waaaaaaaaaaaaay before the NES
And second, Nintendo only revived the gaming market in the USA, Europe and Japan were doing pretty good even when Atari shit the bed
Seriously the whole "Nintendo saved gaming" is one of the biggest lies in history
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>>383056718
>It has a very good library.
It has a large library, not a good library. There isn't a single game on the system better than an 8/10 that isn't a JRPG. Not fucking one.
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>>383057157
Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye together cannot even reach 30 FPS and by the end of the PS1 lifetime the N64 was pretty much beaten in the graphic department by a lot of games.
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>>383057343
>First, Nintendo already existed waaaaaaaaaaaaay before the NES
Uh, yeah, and that has nothing to do with anything I just said.

>And second, Nintendo only revived the gaming market in the USA, Europe and Japan were doing pretty good even when Atari shit the bed
No, actually they really weren't. Even if that was the case, you would never have had all the amazing games and consoles that exist today without Nintendo and the U.S. market. Japan and Europe are small time shit.

>Seriously the whole "Nintendo saved gaming" is one of the biggest lies in history
To an uninformed retard, yes.
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>>383057346
>There isn't a single game on the system better than an 8/10 that isn't a JRPG.
Well that's your opinion, a bad, stupid and one that belongs in the garbage, but its yours
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>>383057346
You only played Nintendo games your entire life and that's why your taste is godawful.
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>>383057439
>Ocarina of Time and Goldeneye together cannot even reach 30 FPS and by the end of the PS1 lifetime the N64 was pretty much beaten in the graphic department by a lot of games.
This is flat out bullshit. Consider this the stupidest thing you've said on 4chan. Good luck finding anything on PS1 that tops the likes of Majora's Mask or Conker you dumb fuck.

>You only played Nintendo games your entire life and that's why your taste is godawful.
Yeah, no, actually as stated in the OP I own a PS1, and in point of fact own more non-Nintendo consoles than anything. I'm just not an autistic troglodyte that thinks a library filled with turn-based weebshit JRPGs and arcade ports is "good". Suck it up fag.
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>>383057761
Meant the lower text for >>383057543
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>>383057761
Any game that runs faster than 20 FPS is better than Majora's Mask and there a lot on PS1

>>383057761
>arcade ports

Oh now Nintenkiddies are attacking "arcade ports" because the N64 doesn't have any.Face it,outside of platformers and racing games the N64 had nil.
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>>383056958
>what is the wii
And games would still be fine without nintendo, games would still be fine in Japan, you know the only country that matters when it comes to games
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>>383057510
>No, actually they really weren't
>im literally not going to post any proof just trust me ok?
>Even if that was the case, you would never have had all the amazing games and consoles that exist today without Nintendo and the U.S. market. Japan and Europe are small time shit.
Uh you realize Nintendo is from Japan dont you fucking mong? You literally dont knowthat PC gaming market in both Japan and Europe were doing fine (Famicom), if Nintendo wanted they could've never made the NES and just make games for family computers or make the NES a Japan only thing
>To an uninformed retard, yes.
>If you dont agree with my fanfiction you're an idiot
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>>383027557
there are over 3k games for it. over 90% is trash obviously
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>>383057980
>Any game that runs faster than 20 FPS is better than Majora's Mask and there a lot on PS1
There really aren't. In fact, out of 2400+ games, only a little over 100 of them run at 60 FPS. The majority of games on the console have similar, if not worse framerates than most N64 games. Go play Alundra and watch how the system dips to 5fps the second that there are more than 5 sprites on screen, and that game has SNES-level graphics. Absolute filth.

>Oh now Nintenkiddies are attacking "arcade ports" because the N64 doesn't have any.Face it,outside of platformers and racing games the N64 had nil.
LOL why would I want arcade ports? The fuck? And moreover, only a complete retard who hasn't even played any N64 games would assert that it had nothing outside of platformers and racing games. It has the most highly rated adventure games of all time, the most highly rated first person shooters of all time, some of the best strategy games, fighting games, puzzlers and more. The PS1 has absolutely nothing that compares to the best N64 games in every genre exept JRPGs, and even then, most PS1 JRPGs don't hold a candle to Paper Mario or Ogre Battle 64. Fucking sad.
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>>383058452
>most PS1 JRPGs don't hold a candle to Paper Mario or Ogre Battle 64. Fucking sad.
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>>383058452
>strategy games, fighting games
Funny how you went and picked two genres that the N64 cannot possibly hold a candle to the PS1.
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Nintendo autists are still mad that Sony won and made Nintendo irrelevant.
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>>383058452
>most PS1 JRPGs don't hold a candle to Paper Mario or Ogre Battle 64. Fucking sad.
Dude i love Paper Mario 64 but you're fucking wrong, games like FFT and Vagrant Story are on another plane of reality compared to it
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Meh. The ps1 was not so bad. Im not a really big fan of it. But all I give it credit for is that it put down the foundation of the rest.
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Its the best console ever made
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The N64 had no games. All it had were kiddy platformers and even the PS1 had better platformers. The PS1 had all types of games that were superior. PS1 clearly won.
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>>383057346
Wow bro that's a pretty shit opinion you got there
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>>383058961
As an ex nintendofag Im not even mad at Sony, I'm mad at Nintendo for bending over and start doing gimmick shit
Makes me sick to see people here defend Nintendo after the Wii shit
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>>383027557
why do you people even talk about hardware and not individual games? I mean make a thread for Symphony of the Night, Soul Edge, Tenchu Stealth Assassins, Wipeout 3, Armored Core, or any of the great PS1 games and you will have an actual discussion.

If you say "lol this old piece of shit is an old piece of shit" what will you even get out of it? Yeah everybody knows how primitive the PS1 is. What a shameful excuse for a thread.
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>>383056331
>Muh emulation
Both images are emulated nevertheless, Spyro's one is not using any major shit though, otherwise, there would be a range extender somewhere, pic related.

>Muh Banjo couldn't run on a PS1
You couldn't run Spyro on a 64 either lad. Don't see how that is an argument.

>11 levels long game has maps 50% bigger than a 34 levels long game.
If it didn't have levels larger than spyro it would be a disgrace instead of a great game.
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>>383059000
>Panzer Bandit
Don't see that one posted everyday, what a great game. Really dope selection of games overall, if that's your collection consider me jelly.
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>>383027557

It had great games.
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>>383032986
What are you smoking? Atari 2600 has great graphics (most of the time).
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>>383027557
>don't fucking post sales number
But I will. Just to piss you off that while you're arguing that a CARTRIDGE console had better graphics (duh, some games like zelda had another gpu helping on the cartridge) the people chose the one where you could play CDs.
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>>383059365
It's fun. Back then each console had a different style - different graphical capabilities, different genres, different kinds of games etc. Plus there's a little less fanboyism, since everyone can emulate these different consoles and play the different games rather than being locked to the platform they bought.
It's much less true nowadays.
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How can any other console ever compete?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSlGv9aFk4o
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>>383059365
It's just bait.
Also:
>wipeout 3
Perfect taste my nigga.
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>>383059674
Man the PS1 already has a huge amount of worthwhile games as is that when you add all those Japan only games the amount just gets ridiculous, you could spend a lifetime playing PS1 games and not finish your backlog. It's a shame so many good games still can't be played without knowing moon. MOON REMIX TL FUCKING WHEN
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>>383059614

Lad you're replying to a 5hr old troll post
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>>383060236
I'm slow
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>>383042992
>Starcraft 64

Not cool man, put a triggerwarning on that shit.
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>>383027557
(You)
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>>383060037
I was playing a really obscure ASCII PS1 demo disc the other day that only had a demo of Moon:Remix inside it and yes i still play PS1 demo discs in 2017 because i like finding out about new games
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>>383059365
The PS1 isn't bad because it's primitive now, it's bad because it was primitive WHEN IT RELEASED. The immediately obvious problems that it has with polygon graphics were solved, no exaggeration, a decade prior.
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>>383027557
just because the system was primarily geared for 3d doesn't mean it couldn't do 2d well. look at the sprite work in metal slug x or SotN or any of the Capcom fighters or any of the hundreds of shmups.
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>>383027557
What is even the point of trying to make it sound like a PS1 is scrap metal? Won't change the fact Nintendo got slapped out of the market lead hard, just makes it sounds more pathetic. Similar to people whining about the Vita being stronker than the 3DS.
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>>383060987
>1996
>still using cartridges
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>>383060987
The N64 had no soundchip and has to use CPU power to produce sounds,what would you call that? Because we need a new adjective for calling something that is even more primitive than primitive.
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>>383028109
You will also see an incredible amount of other placebo crap.
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>>383060661

Any interesting games you would recommend to someone who played resident evil2/silent hil earlier this year and enjoyed them through and trough? Maybe something obscure, weird
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>>383059365
>and you will have an actual discussion.
Not on /v/.
This board is irredeemable garbage
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>>383060987
>no exaggeration, a decade prior

Yeah, by having no textures at all, or having MIT level supercomputers with floating point arcs. Are you retarded?
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>>383061375
More like PSPfags whining about the DS.
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>>383028181
>graphics and multimedia features
What kind of retarded person would focus on those two? Quality of games is something worth bringing up but fucking multimedia features? Anon, that's a focal point that's only really become important in the last ten years or so, maybe sooner if you count the whole "The PS2 is just an inexpensive DVD player" thing.
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>>383061213
Metal Slug is a bad example, the PS1's tiny RAM meant all the levels had to be chopped up into segments.
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>>383061736
Not a thing here.
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>>383061413
You are a computer illiterate and should not comment on these things. Almost all modern computers, whether it's a smartphone, a console, or a PC, mix sound in software.
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>>383032378
hes right
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>>383059623
>Plus there's a little less fanboyism
I disagree completely. If anything, the fanboying for shit you're nostalgic for is infinitely stronger than fanboying because of general autism. People get furious at the idea that the shitty game or console they played when they were younger isn't considered the GOAT by other anonymous users and sperg the fuck out.
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>>383061564
Fatal Frame I guess? The rest of the series you mentioned? Uhhh...

Dino Crisis? lmao idk
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>>383061564
So an horror game reccomendation? Dino Crisis is basically Resident Evil with dinosaurs,Resident Evil 3 and Parasite Eve are mustplays,if you like a lot of action in your horror play Dino Crisis 2 and Parasite Eve 2 too.If you want obscure stuff there is a port of Clock Tower (the SNES game) for the PS1 that has been translated and has some extra stuff,Hellnight and Echo Night are very atmospheric games and Alone in the Dark:The New Nightmare is a pretty good western horror game very similiar to RE.
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>>383061213
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>>383062000
Doesn't matter,the N64 CPU had to do all the work instead of a seperate soundchip and the quality of the sounds took a hit as a result,the same exact stuff that happened with the GBA.
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>>383061789
still looks better than any 2d game on 64
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$1000 says OP was born after the PS1 came out.
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>>383062529
N64 barely had any 2D games at all, but it could do them when it needed to (Mischief Makers, Yoshi's Story).

Take a look at the Saturn instead, that console had fucktons of RAM and it only got more as it went on. You don't see those in-level loads in Saturn games.
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>>383062265
>Claims he regulary searches for games on demo discs for og ps
>cant offer a single non mainstream gaimu

This was absolutely disappointing and I wont comment on your shit next time.

>Hellnight
>Echo Night
>Alone in the Dark:The New Nightmare

will check them out thanks.
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>>383062529
But the N64 has no games with 2D graphics
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>>383062000
That only means music is either going to sound like compressed dicks or take a huge amount of space that can be used for better things. Remember we are talking about videogames.
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>>383062692
I was this guy
>>383062315

Fuck the other guy
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>>383062929
Videogames depend a lot on their soundtracks,or at least they used to before voice acting and western games fucked everything up.
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>>383055913
agreed, le halo was the start of bringing in the unwashed masses to gaming, also the gen that brought online gaming into the mess
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>>383062692
>This was absolutely disappointing and I wont comment on your shit next time.

Are you seriously fucking bullying anons on the videogame board kiddo
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>>383061564
>>383062265
Martian Gothic is pretty neat.
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>>383059000
>Fear Effect 1&2.
Fantastic games, i played them for the first time when they appeared on the PAL PSN and was blown away by the visuals, the story, music and ESPECIALLY the voice acting, the gameplay was excellent IMO a mix of RE style shooting and some very sadistic puzzles .
I was so mad when i found out the 3rd game was almost done and Eidos went bankrupt because of TR The Angel of Darkness and the developer shut down.
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>>383062315
Seconding that Echo Night reccomendation, really original premise for a game, basically what you have to do is press the light switch before the ghosts get you.

Also going to add Galerians, it's another RE knockoff but with psychic powers. It's pretty good but the resource conservation is beyond anal retentive tier. And also Clock Tower.
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GIMME FOO GIMME FY
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>>383062972

>didnt even link you
Now im disappointed in myself. Have this you anon you deserved it.

>>383063236
Dude it was like rude. if i wanted something similar tothe games i mentioned I would have explicitly asked for it but I just mentioned the ones I played earlier. he was just like lmao here are games so gib me you lmao. thats how people get stabbed you know
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>>383063096
Just think if music in videogames was actually still sequenced by a common API with advanced FL-tier flexibility. Maybe truly dynamic and interactive music would be commonplace by now and it would free up a lot of RAM and HDD space, not to mention the logistical nightmare of having 1000 different prerecorded cues for every situation. Midis would also be easily rippable.
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Based crazy Kutaragi BTFO of Nintendo drones since 1994.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rSLInBkY9I
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but it's awesome. end of story
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Did other consoles have kino games like this? Don't think so!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H_C9iES_hE
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>>383064035
I like crazy Ken as much as the next guy but come on, that PS3 debacle.
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Having stronger hardware means shit, just look at fucking handheld gaming.
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>>383062929
You are a computer illiterate and should not comment on these things. Music is compressed to save storage space, not CPU time. It's because the cartridges were too small. Uncompressed waveforms are the fastest to decode. If the n64 carts had enough space, the games could have easily had high quality audio without the addition of a sound processor.
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>>383064435
>Having stronger hardware means shit
Yeah, look at PS1 vs N64
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>>383064279
I agree with you anon but the guy made the PlayStation brand what it is today even though Sony's CEO tried to shut him down after Nintendo bailed out on them, the guy's a legend IMO.
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>>383027557
sure is summer in here.
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>>383064464
How's that reading comprehension lad?
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>>383064208
Best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve0YK5cE7bw
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>>383030147
Silent Hill
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>>383027557
>15years later
>holy feminine Christa, the Xbox one x sucks, took mine out of storage the other day and is only 1800p with upscaled 4k and cinematic 30fps.
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>>383027557
I agree and I also hate the N64, that entire gen was shit.
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>>383064035
>>383064279
>>383064749

What's he doing now?
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This thread proves how great the PS1 is. It's still being talked about today. No one remembers the N64.
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The PS1 was the best console of that generation.
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>>383066591
this wont happen except from stupid faggots. we can all agree most games LOOKED like shit in the past, because they did. things that look good will still look good in the future.
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>>383067209

More like, it proves that Nintendo fans are still butthurt after all this years.
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>>383066820
>What's he doing now?
>From Wikipedia
He has remained at Sony as senior technology advisor.
Ken Kutaragi later became president and CEO of Cyber AI Entertainment, Inc. He also serves on the boards of Kadokawa Group Holdings, Inc., Nojima Corporation, and Rakuten, Inc. In 2009, he became a visiting professor of Ritsumeikan University.
Also he's an External Director at Marvelous AQL.
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>Nintendo 64
More like Pretendo 69
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>>383027557
Because developers were no longer under the thumb of Nintendo. They saw Sony's system as a way out.

At the time, Nintendo had very stringent quality requirements for their systems, while Sony let literally anybody develop for their system. That's why they had the numbers on their side - they had literally no standards at the time.
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>>383065574
you are actually just plain illiterate
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>>383067319
s-sales don't count and mean nothing!! 99% of playshit 1 sales were to listen to music!

just like the playshit 2 and dvds
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>>383031757
>dat MGS1 VR cover
Pure A E S T H I C
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>>383067332
You got it all wrong,nobody will give a shit about current games in 10 years because they all look the same while games that have very defined artstyles (like most 2D games) will live forever,same thing for chip music compared to modern soundtracks.
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>>383031757

>green label games

May as well just emulate them. Go for the real ones, nigga.
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>>383059674
why were the 90s so comfy
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>>383028181
what the fuck is a saturn? stfu nintendobabby literally nobody owned a n64, while everybody played the shit out of ps1
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>>383068493
We all had less stuff to worry about
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>>383068727
Who is this dude? Post more
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Can we create separate containment board for butthurt nintendo kiddies so they can sperg off about zelda and mario in their own hugboxes?
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>>383067798
>complex music with postprox needs to be pre-rendered to a streamed PCM, which will either be compressed as hell or (by 'or' I mean alternatively) waste valuable storage space
>no anon fuck you stop being illiterate music is not compressed to save CPU time

Yup, potato reading comprehension it is. If you're arguing that using software sequencers can get you comparable results on an N64 without actually wasting CPU time then lmao.
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>>383027557
And OP is a faggot once again.
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>>383068943
Just some pictures i got from /vr/
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>>383030823
>you cant criticise it because i like it
you know that there are people that brings good arguments about bad things on both consoles?
people likes to have discussions and it doesnt mean that they are fanboys/underage
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>>383069094
I don't know why but the way the Japs dressed/haircuts really captured the essence of 90s for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbQN0JnzWkA
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>>383069310
>that bottom left pic
fuck i remember talking with friends about how crazy technology's gotten and how there would be probably flying cars in 20yrs
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>>383069310
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>>383067663
>they had literally no standards at the time.
Like they should, it shouldn't be up to the company who makes the system to decide what games I get to play. Can you imagine all those experimental little gems from the era being made without the PS1? Cause Nintendo sure as fuck wouldn't allow them.
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>>383069689
stop
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>Nintendo fucks over sony
>Sony goes into the videogame market
>releases two consoles that just dominate the market.
Pottery.
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>>383061213

Saturn was much better with 2D fighters, etc. with the RAM cart.
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>>383069905
I feel like expansions are off game when doing legit comparisons. Everybody can strap a little additional RAM and call it a day. It takes skill to deal with what you have.
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>>383069689
Literally our guy
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>>383062550

And he just tried one at a friends or emulated it, parroting some dumb shit he read somewhere. Fuck, I'm probably giving him too much credit.
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>>383027779
>ps1 is the best thing to play music cds on.
No it isn't. Only few models have the good CD player. And it's still better to rip the CD and play them from your Hard Drive anyways
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>>383037419
mein nigger
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>>383070502
was i tricked? are these pictures taken recently
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>>383028449
The anti-aliasing is the reason why N64 games looked like such shit. Why do you think hardcore retro gamers go apeshit over the ability to switch off that nasty filter via the HD Mod or via Action Replay codes through RGB?

Look at Quake 64 for example. That game offered the option to turn off filtering and it looked so fucking good
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>>383071537
Wut? Those are the photos of a guy who went to Japan in 94.
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>>383030140
>Squaresoft
>lists Breath of Fire 3, 4, Persona 2 and a shitload of other non-Squaresoft games
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>>383031108
>ridge racer 4
At least say Gran Turismo you turbofaggot
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>>383031757
>Mega Man X6
Delete this
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>>383071735
oh ok
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>>383032629
>Games like Metal Gear Solid were revolutionary
Movie Gear Solid was garbage and ruined gaming
You Kojimadrones need to get rounded up and executed
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>>383032858
Crash 1, Crash 2, Crash 3, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1, 2, 3 and 4, Legacy of Kain Blood Omen and Soul Reaver, Tomb Raider 1-4
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>>383072243
It doesn't matter what you think,MGS was a revolutionary game for the time.
And say whatever you want about Kojima but he always made interesting games,can't say that for many other developers.
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>>383035269
>Yu Gi Oh! Forbidden Memories
He said good games
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>>383035618
Literally why would you want to play the 32-bit version of Mega Man X3 with that cancerous soundtrack?
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>>383072243
From a technical standpoint they kinda were. You'd be surprised at how many things MGS1 and 2 share at engine level.
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>>383037264
>the Saturn was designed around the 3D games on Sega's Model 2 arcade boards.
Horseshit
The ports usually ran at half-framerate and were severely downgraded

The Saturn was built for 2D. The Panzer Dragoon creator stated that Saturn couldn't do true 3D
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>>383039062
>Akumajo Dracula X
*tipping intensifies*
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>>383058452
Paper Mario 64 is a 6/10 max and you're a literal toddler
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>>383073467
Castlevania Rondo of Blood,you happy now?
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>>383073598
Only if you're not being sarcastic.
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>>383031108

I love Soul Reaver but if you're going to play it just get the DC version.
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>>383072883
That is a good game. Hell, even I own it and play it on occasion.
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>>383057510
>No, actually they really weren't.
Yes they were you cunt
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>>383059000
That's not the Sega Genesis
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>>383074117
The dreamcast version looked better but it played worse than the PS1 version you dummy.
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>>383057346
Silent Hill is a solid 9 and it brought about the golden age of survival horror. If you think otherwise, you are retarded.
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>>383067981
>God-tier games like the one on your webm are obscure as fuck
>meanwhile janky ass menu simulators like the Final Fantasy series(especially FF7 on PSX) are some of the most popular "games" of all time
I hate humanity, I really fucking do.
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>>383036460
And I'm surprised the doctor approved of your birth, but you don't see me shit posting all over the place about it.
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>>383075405
FF7 is good too,stop being a hipster
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>>383031578
Jesus Christ the N64 was terrible,
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>>383039062
>Final Fantasy VI
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>>383069094
>not mentioning the hottie that was 90s Sarah Michelle Gellar
What are you, gay?
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>>383075405
People like to rag on JRPGs for being too samey but shmups are that to an insane degree.
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>>383069479
That looks like 60s to me
As usual japs are 3 decades behind
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>>383067981
>>383067981
>Check out game you posted expecting it to be ludicrously priced.
>$10 fucking bucks on ebay.

Sold
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>>383072807
>MGS was a revolutionary game for the time.
Except it fucking wasn't. The commercials lied you dumb pleb.
Tenchu predates that shit that shit by months
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>>383074352
No it isn't. Lay off the Nostalgia pill, the game is terrible.
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>>383074745
60fps is worse than 30? Oh wait, I forgot Sony niggers like to play games at cinematic framerates lmao
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>Saw this thread earlier
>I was able to go out, do laundry, do shopping, buy some dude weed lmao and fap
>Thread still on page 1
how asspained can nintentoddlers be about holding the L for over 20 year?
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>>383075890
Shmups require skill. Menus don't, neither do cutscenes.
Technology advancement was a mistake.
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>>383075651
It was shit. Slow and tedious as hell. Can't believe they managed to be worse than NES RPG's jesus christ.
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>>383076629
I'm not talking about framerate, nigger. The dreamcast version had some really spotty collision detection that made the already only bearable platforming really awful since you'd clip straight through a platform you very clearly had landed on. But I guess since it was 60FPS that's what makes all the difference to you?
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>>383076070
80s actually
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>>383074745
>>383076974

Original anon you replied to. Interesting. I lost my PS1 copy ages ago and just bought the DC version to play through. Never knew about that and just heard from a buddy the DC version was better. Guess I should research first sometimes.
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>>383076750
When won't they ever be mad? How dare some challenge the almighty Nintendo!
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>>383074117
Are there mods to undo the ugly new models?
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>>383027557
>why is this a good system
The games. You can call them knockoffs and dismiss them all you want but the fact of the matter is that the PS1 had a large library of good games. That's also the reason why the PS2 did so well despite what faggots on here parrot.
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>>383048528
This is the real reason
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>>383027557
https://youtu.be/DjikLCPeUdo

Limmy is dead on about old games.

80% of a good game is the happy memories you had with it. I know Harry Potter and the chamber of secrets for the ps1 controlled like ass but I'm still really fond of it because it reminds me of a great Christmas where my grandparents were still around.
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>>383081036
I disagree to an extent, because there are genres that obviously became worse with time, there was a time in which City Building was Sim City Societies and facebook games, and you would be 100% right in thinking back then it was better.
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>>383052003
Why not ask the same thing against the orher consoles.
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>>383052003
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>>383028109
>ad populum
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