Says here you have a Bachelor's Degree in game design in

Literally no interest in doing anything but games

>Bachelor's in Game Design

may as well apply to McDonalds ASAP

Well you see, i'm more of an ideas guy myself

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>>382968551
>I'm sorry, we'd rather pay a machine $15 an hour to take an order than offer you $7.25

>>382968551
>Full Sail University
I need a job! ANY JOB! HELP! IM DYING IN DEBT!

>>382968551
I just wanted to watch NXT.

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Full sails!

As opposed to you, who has a degree in tie-wearing and looking smug?

>>382968851
For profit college was a bigger scam than the 00s housing market. I'm sorry for your loss.

>>382968551
I'm also an expert dog handler

When do start?

>>382968551

Why would anyone go to school for game DESIGN? I get that there are environment artists, character artists, digital painters etc, but those are mostly either self taught or learned in real art schools. Programmers obviously take comp sci in university.

What the fuck is a game designer? An idea guy?

>>382969057
Oh don't worry, I wouldn't be caught dead in a idiotic school like that.

>>382968551
>American job interview
Interviewer: It says here that you have a doctorates in computer engineering.
Interviewer: Your starting pay is $7.50 an hour.

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>>382969750

>>382969425

yes, but like, without the sarcasm. you'd want an understanding of how people learn, how people interact with games, what's fun, what isn't, what's been done, how tech both limits and enables a designer, how various demographics interact with various blah blah etc etc. you can't leave this shit to the programmers, they're retarded.

thing is that there's not really any kind of curriculum for it yet so they don't actually teach anything useful in the programs. but hey maybe one day developers will stop having to hire marine biologists

Hey kids

No interviewer/employer gives a fuck about your degree. Only your job expierences related to the position and skills. And also if you know every detail about the company.

Pass all that then they'll throw you in the raffle hay of people with enough exoerience and basically draw you at random. Theyll give some bs reason to justify the lottery pick but thats all it us.

A masters in engineering or physics isnt going to make them go Lwow lets hire him cause hes smart"

Education literally doesnt matter

Worse, I have a bachelor's in psychology. Been NEET for coming on three years now.

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>It's a you don't get a degree from an Ivy school so it's automatically treated like nothing episode
>Despite the fact that the only difference is one was more expensive then the other

>>382969425
I have a bachelors in animation but I know the game design majors had to learn programming, lighting, texturing, modeling, skinning, rigging, and animation as well.

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>>382968551
>100% acceptance rate

Holy fuck hownis that even possible? Even Evergreen had the decency to say no to
the bottom iof the deep barrel of shit

>>382970618
>apply for Production Control Coordinator
>so Anon, I noticed all your work experience is related to Manufacturing and Process Engineering
>yeah
>well you have an IE degree so you should be fine
I start next Monday :^)

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Yeah I went there but I spent most of the time doing drugs and drinking beer.

>>382970740
school in general is a scam. just learn from some online website and start your own business.

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>Talking to my roommate one night
>Realize I never found out what schooling he's had
>Says he did English for his undergrad and got his Master's
>Legitimately impressed that this guy would have a Master's, regardless of focus, so ask him what in
>Video Game Journalism from Full Sail
>Apparently it was a year long Master's program

What in the fuck does that even mean?

>When your school has had a 90-100% job acceptance rate for CS majors within a month after graduation for over 3 years
Feels good man

>>382970934
I flunked out of college because the mathfags decided exactly at the year I took my CS major to make discrete mathematics a requirement.
Now I'm stuck in my parents basement with no degree all because some turbo autists in the math department were losing money from no one taking their courses, and decided to force people to start taking them. I literally want to punch up any fag that claims that they got a degree in some mathematics field for fucking up the rest of my life.

>>382971054
That is pretty funny, what is he doing now? If he went to Full Sail I can't imagine he'd get a development job anywhere.

HEY PANDORA LISTENER

>>382971168
You should try getting gud

>tfw studying Law

>>382971168
No one fucked up your life but you.

>>382971168
Why not just... take the class? Couldn't afford it is a reasonable answer but if you were too dumb for math why would you be getting a CS degree in the first place?

>>382971310
I'm an idiot when it comes to math, but great at programming. Yet the shitty college I was going to was running out of money so decided it was a fucking swell idea to start making students take all these extra courses without any consideration how it might fuck them up.
Fuck college and fuck their greedy kike asses.

>>382971168
I have a math degree. If you cant pass DM you have absolutely no fucking business programming. Its introductory logic. Every university worth its shit makes every comp sci take DM and every math major take comp sci 1

>>382971168
>be a retard
>flunk out for being a retard
I'm sorry you were such a retard that you dropped out of college rather than take a single class and wish violence on people that are passionate about interests that you don't share.

>>382971414
Because I'm actually really good at programming, it's just math I suck shit at. And there was no programming degree, only a stupid CS degree. Couldn't afford to go anywhere else, so I was pretty much stuck with CS.

>>382971487
>I'm an idiot when it comes to math, but great at programming.
YandereDev please leave.

>>382968851
AMERICA, LAND OF THE FEES

>>382971346
Pre-law that has literally zero relevance or are you actually in law school?

>>382971497
>He really thinks this
I'm fucking fluent in assembly, c and c++. Being shit at math means jack shit, fuck off with your >hurr discrete is a requirement when 90% of the shit they teach has literally NOTHING to do with programming.
>>382971546
I took it several times jackass.

>>382969047
He already has a job and stable income, so he wins.
You should have gotten a degree in looking smug too.

>>382970740
college is a fucking scam and the gatekeeping it does is bullshit. Half of my friends are like thousands in debt banking on the fact that goyschringer and schlongberger will give them a job over the thousands of other kids with the same degree and same amount of debt and stressed out of their minds while the one friend I have with a blue collar truck driving job is raking in thousands a week busting his ass with half the stress but worried his job is coming to end within the next 5 years. America is a weird fucking place.

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>>382971576
>one class
>not capable enough to buckle down and pass one college course even if with a shitty grade
>good at anything
I don't know. You sound kind of like a degenerate. Throwing your life away because of one college course when you're supposedly really good at what you were getting a degree in? Think you're lying to your self.

>>382971654
Law school.

Kill me.

>>382971497
My university has a DM requirement for CS too. At the time I took it, it was taught by some young Chinese guy that barely spoke English and couldn't teach the subject worth a damn. Almost everyone was failing all the exams save for the resident savant. In the end, I heard tell from the people that went to office hours that the professor just added points to your grade until it was something good.

>>382971780
>Hey if you're not good at bird watching 101 then you have no business doing fire management 301
That's your logic.

>>382971685
>took it several times
so you're more of a retard than I gave you credit for. Sorry.

>>382971783
It's only shitty the first year. Years 2 and 3 were only slightly more time consuming than undergrad for me, outside of finals season.

>>382971898
Which is pretty good. Both Bird Watching 101 and DM are baby tier, you should have no problems.

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>>382971898
If you can't pass a 101 class, you're not a functioning member of society, yes. Being a retard kind of prevents you from excelling in any field regardless of where your retardation first became apparent.

>had plans to get a doctorate and shit after i finish my masers
>win a lottery and go back to not doing SHIT but video games

feels good

>>382971974
>>382971980
I'd like to see you faggots write a kernel driver and then tell me how I have no business programming.

>have a 4 year degree in "university studies"
>but did a meaningful internship
>so sociopathic that bullshitting people and acting comes off easy

I'm telling you, lads. I have been in a sales rep for a marketing firm for 3 years now and I make 120k (pending my commission is good that year). I may secrectly be a 4chan browsing faggot, but having an internship under my belt plus the ability to talk to a brick wall has gotten me so far in sales that my degree is literally pointless.

>>382971004
Where can I learn bussiness administration?

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>>382971168
>>382971487
>>382971685
>being this much of a sad, bitter NEET with no degree in the year of our lord 2017
Little bitch ass, maybe if you keep up your chores mom and dad will let you go GameStop again this weekend.

>>382972065
>If you can't pass a 101 class, you're not a functioning member of society, yes.
I'm not sure why you think a fact changes based on unrelated information. Maybe you're an autistic savant.

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>>382968551
Skilled labor master race

>>382972065
Who gives a shit about that? I can install a whole factory and get it up and running efficiently and according to all applicable laws and regulations. Maybe you should try leaving your little computer, faggot :^)

>>382971996
I'm jelly as fuck. I hope you invested that so your returns can keep you living the good life until death. How much did you win anyway?

>>382972095
Well, that's what salesmen do. Must bullshit people into buying crap, they're up there with marketers (pretty much the same thing) and lawyers as the worst scum of humanity.

>>382971996
So that can really happen. Maybe I should start buying tickets again.

>>382970862
How's the job market for you? I'm majoring in the same thing

Anons, I just graduated and I'm going to uni to be a police officer, I found out my degree doesn't even have to be in CJ, what should I go for? what's useful? I feel like high school didn't even prepare me for real life, there's so many options. I wasn't really prepared for knowing what I want to do in life but not needing to major in it.

I stopped going to college to play video games. I also make 50k a year as a supervisor

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>>382972268
>>382972351
Stay mad mathfags.
Your stupid courses are completely irrelevant to the majority of degrees, and you literally need to force people to take them. That's far more autistic and very kikey.

Man, I got a engineering degree, 3.9gpa and 5 interships, and somehow I managed to fuck everything up. All my interships dont want to hire me fulltime because they just want to cycle through student interns for free government money. I did chemical engineering, and man did I make a mistake. Literally cleaning toilets and raw meat off the floor at minimum wage since graduating last year. You're screwed without connections.

>>382972795
>Industrial Engineering with Manufacturing orientation
>mathfag
lmao

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>>382968551
>it says here you're a male
>I don't believe it

>>382972608
I'm self-employed. Jaded with the industry and don't want to live in the city.

The people I went to school with are doing well in Boston.

>>382972115
just google business admin lectures

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I noticed you started a non-video game thread on /v/.

Care to explain?

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>>382972874
>My engineering degree that legitimately requires a math degree is the same as a degree for literally speaking and writing in another language
No shit sherlock.

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>>382968551
>mfw when my friend moved to Florida last year to do this
>mfw literally everyone he knew told him and his girlfriend it was a terrible idea
>mfw NY JUST passed legislation which would have made him eligible for a full ride at a SUNY school
>mfw his cunty girlfriend who neutered him didn't get into her masters program because of her grades

Schadenfruede shouldn't feel this good

>>382972527
Lol if you're dumb enough to buy my bullshit then you're just that, dumb. I don't see how you can compare me to a lawyer, someone that would defend a murderer or rapist but okay buddy. Stay mad I'm making money. Plus, you don't even know what I sell lol. I call up businesses offering them our company's software that helps streamline their business and makes them more efficient. If they don't want it, they can fuck right off. I'm not some used car salesman but you don't have a job so you wouldn't know.. :^)

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>>382972795
>thinking I took anything related to mathematics
I think you need to read >>382972268
It's pretty telling that you're replying to me over and over without actually acknowledging that I said failing a 101 class is a sign of degeneracy. It's clearly getting to you if you can't actually respond to it without relying on assumptions.

>>382972881
Get a job

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>$80k+ tuition for a game design degree

Ultra kek

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>What are your strengths and weaknesses?

>>382973071
To be honest it wasn't a 101 course. It was like a 1500 course or something. It was the only thing I was failing too.

>>382973210
I'm hard-working but socially awkward.

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>>382972909

I work closely as a contractor for a small IT provider for various companies that don't hire actual IT staff. Went to school for network administration so that helped get my foot in the door.

[Spoiler]my girlfriend asked one of her personal trainee clients if she knew anyone hiring and pushed my resume towards my current boss. Getting lucky in who you know helps[/spoiler]

>>382973427
Networking > Hard Working

>got into compsci right after finishing highschool
>don't know what to do with my life and all I do is sit on computers so it was just about the only thing that I could even be remotely interested in
>elder brother flunked out years ago because it was "too hard"
>I start
>hey this ain't so bad
>introductory course is mandatory before being able to start 101 classes
>start math second semester
>I fail
>start math second semester
>I fail
>start programming on same semester
>do alright for about two thirds then some bullshit happened with evaluations and I failed
>discover after this that I hate programming with all my might
>take math and prog again
>pass them with less than impressive grades
>more math coming up
>discrete math, calculus and linear algebra
>ok maybe one at a time
>take DM
>fail
>take DM and linear algebra this semester
>scraping the grade on the former but I still very passable
>got a 16/100 in the first exam of the latter
>moral dropped to rock bottom and flat out skipped next two exams because why even bother it was virtually unrecoverable
>haven't even touched calculus but simply know it won't be any different
I might pass DM this time. LA is a lost cause. I have prog 2 coming up but I already forgot so much from prog 1 that it's not even funny.
I want to shoot myself tbqh.

>TFW going to college and won't be needing to take out any loans
Feels good mane

Full Sail University? lol im not a sailor nigger

>>382973515
>basically being CTO for million dollar companies
Same thing right

>>382970618

Sure my job working with the portfolio of a big company didnt depend exclusively on my finance degree.

See that Engineer building that brigde? No degree, just experience

The doctor that did a surgery on my mom last week? No degree, he just practiced a lot with dogs.

Retard

>>382973210
>I post cunny threads on /tv/, It's both a strength and a weakness. As they say in the big book, we're blessed and cursed.

>>382973210
>strengths
All my friends think i'm funny
>weaknesses
I don't believe them.

>>382973210

They dont care about those, they want to see if you can speaka more than two sentences without sperging out.

>>382968551
>Full Sail
Nothing wrong there. If you went to Full Sail, Digipen, or Gnomon then you have an entire support network of industry professionals to call upon to get a job.

>>382970618
You know I've been thinking about that, why though?
Someone well educated is more valuable AND gullible than someone "experienced".From a buisness standpoint it don't make no sense.

>>382973210
>Strengths
Keeping my cool under pressure
>Weaknesses
My crippling self doubt when I'm alone

>>382973536
It took me 3 tries to pass Calc 1. Thankfully it was at a community college, so it was supposed to be ez mode. I don't even want to think about how hard it would be at a 4 year school.

>>382969750
That's a complete fabrication. The actual process would be:

Interviewer: It says here that you have a doctorates in computer engineering.
Interviewer: Sorry but we're not hiring anyone with under 10 years of experience.

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>>382968551
It's in Florida and made out of a converted strip mall, sir

One of my classes was in an old Albertsons

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>>382968551

>the more mainstream liberals get into gaming the lamer it gets

There is no god or justice in the world

I remember once doing terribly on every assessment in a statistics unit, so badly I had to get over 85% on the final exam to even pass the unit. I made the best cheat sheet known to man; really wish I had kept it. The entire course summed up in two A4 pages, a skeleton key of theories and formulae. Anyone could have aced that exam with that cheat sheet, including me, and I totally did. Probably my proudest moment in education.

Also highlights that the whole thing is a scam.

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>>382968551
>tfw spent 4 years doing game art cum laude

>>382973210
Strenghts
I am a massive whore and will work for less than everyone else
Weaknesses
I automatically get stockholm syndrom for the companies I work for and would kill myself if asked.

I almost feel like being an edgy asshole and do that in an interview but I'm honestly scared they'd take me seriously and actually hire me for less than avarage.

>>382973210
Group interviews are such bullshit. 1v1 me faggots

>>382974054
t h i s
h
i
s

software developer with around a year and a half of experience under my belt. been looking for a job closer to home / out of suburban hell but most companies are looking for devs with 5+ years of experience.

>>382970232
this

every engineer/hard scientist i've worked with in design was hired on the sole qualifications that they're not retarded with people and the company is too up its own ass to hire someone without a STEM degree from a strong uni to the role

they end up doing basic developer support and putting numbers in matrices (these days you throw numbers in a proprietary tool and it gives you whatever you're looking for as it relates to whatever you're balancing aginst), the shit any clown with actual dreams and a solid set of dreamer's qualifications (3 years in customer support and a shitty delayed degree from local.uni?) could do

except they just care about the easy paycheck and the devs end up throwing in all kinds of autistic bullshit only they care about

voila, pillars of eternity

>draw on side
>"HE DOES IT FOR FREE HAHAHAHAH"
>tfw start game course in uni
>"WOW WHAT A RETARD HAHAHAHAH"
>intern for couple of huge companies, make games anons have played
>get top marks despite carpal in both hands from over working
>"HAHAHHA CARPAL FAGGOT"
>finish uni
>approached by a company making AAA games
>insntantly hired
>mfw drive a sports car to work erry day to make games you autists will bitch about
honestly there is not a single reason to listen to a bunch of 12 year old neets who fail at school and write essays about shitty japanese games

>>382974510
lie

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>We back trackes your IP, anon. Looks like you've been posting some indecent thing on a site called "four chan" care to explain?

>>382974860
>mfw drive a sports car
and that's where you lost me.

>>382970618
>trying to apply for IT without a bachelor's

I fucking wish, dude.
Thing is, employers know kids were ripped off by college debts, so they make a shit load of jobs require college to get those poor fucks employed. But then the rest of us who actually aren't retarded get fucked. It's a vicious fucking cycle.

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>almost went to fullsail for art
>dad told me to fuck off, went to local college instead

>teaching art now, loving it, great benefits, no debt

thanks dad

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>the monthly payment for my student loan payment is almost half of my paycheck

>>382974861
Normies fucked it all up again. No connections? No expensive 8 year degree? Not millions of dollars in debt with no way to ever pay it all off? Don't like bending over for everyone and everything and taking it like a good little bitch slave? Sorry lol your shit out of luck.

>>382974619
expanding on this, i think its what a lot of us miss on the level of development when we think of a company's golden age vs. its current incarnation

yeah, you have the incredibly talented eventual CEO and CTO, but they bring along a host of underachieving early hires who actually know how to waste time in life and what wastes time best. If you've ever worked at a startup, you know these people, they come in late, dress sloppy, but they bring the fucking fire ideas and challenge the leaders on their bullshit in the way only old friends can.

the concept of an ideas guy is kind of tired, and almost completely negative, but those people with limited technical skills and a ton of passion are actually pretty useful when you're designing something for fun, rather than as a tool

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>>382974860
Hey Todd how's ESVI (not) going?

>>382975008
>Normies fucked it all up again. No connections? No expensive 8 year degree? Not millions of dollars in debt with no way to ever pay it all off? Don't like bending over for everyone and everything and taking it like a good little bitch slave? stop being a beta bitch and go create work yourself instead of waiting on other to tell you what to do
Fixed it, pal

>>382974931
kek yet again 4chan is so neet it doesn't believe a success story.

>>382975042
then a company gets too big, loses that urgent need for immediate talent, and starts hiring extremely qualified people who don't want to rock the boat and are mostly there to career build even if they like games

>>382974993
>went to a community college for programming
>student loans came out to $8000
>making 62k a year now
Kek don't fall for the prestigious 4year college meme

>>382975059
actually working on a bethesda project right now.
Can't say anything but it is going to be the last thing you expected

>>382975103
Maybe because every fucking bullshit artist in the past 60 years drives a sports car?

>>382975191
>it is going to be the last thing you expected

Is good too much to expect?

>>382974940
Only if you aren't a good candidate. Speaking as someone who only got his GED and I'm making 50k in tech right now with my only prior job experience being retail at geek squad.

>>382969750
>>382970113
>>382970740
>>382974054
The job market in America is one of the best in the world for young graduates. Unless you did some retarded shit like not doing any internships or extracurriculars you should have a job.

>>382975275
I have no idea, but i probs won't play it anyway.
It is super fun to work on and the company is super friendly and super nice and supportive unlike another big aaa company making one of the biggest release

>>382975203
I'm sorry i'm not some spineless cuck driving a fag ass suv but instead got a car I actually love and can race with

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>>382975191
What, more Fallout 4 DLC that nobody will buy?
GLHF, gonna go play New Vegas.

>>382975103
lmao the greatest meme the devil ever pulled is convincing these children of the age of irony that you shouldn't follow your passion in order to accomplish x,y,z thing your parents did (because that was so great, right?) And mostly they got memed this hard because the state of affairs in the western economy was so bad just as they got out of high school or college for the older anons.

Meanwhile we live in an age of unparalleled social and economic mobility, and we're about to experience an upset more than double the size of the industrial revolution as automation ramps up. Anyone not pursuing their passion in what could very well be a post-labor first world within the next hundred years is a fucking retard. You can literally go on camera and make a living reviewing handbags. P. sure anon can make it with a game design degree.

>>382975428
Many colleges do not help with internships so many people are helpless cause they don't know how to get one or don't get support for one.
Its super obvious that it should be the next step, but colleges really should point this shit out

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>>382968551
> tfw did 6 months of a bachelor of Animation
> tfw dropped out
> tfw parents disowned me over it
> tfw 2nd year apprentice electrician now
> tfw still unemployed
Death to all for-profit colleges who dupe young dipshits into wasting valuable time and money

>>382975581
Western evil is right. Fuck the culture that caused your "friends" and "family" to allow that to happen to you.

>>382973536
>I want to shoot myself tbqh.
Your story is my story. What did you do well on in the SATs or whatever?

Just get a degree in whatever you can, tough it out, don't get discouraged, learn programming on your own via free online courses. You probably noticed that all your compsci teachers fucking suck and are just reading the textbook to you

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How do i get in to C++?

>>382975096
I don't think you understand what entails starting up a company, keeping it running, and making it profitable. The average person would NOT be able to do such a task.

>>382975428
No it's not.

>>382975581
>didn't go to college
>unemployed
>fuck college
what?

>>382976258
Read the /g/ wiki

>>382975581
Fuck institutions man
>Had about a year left on my bachelors
>Was lucky enough that my parents helped me pay for university along with my peanut income I was getting working in labs
>One day my father fucked up his ankle pretty bad and couldn't work ( He was the bread maker in the house)
>Tell my PI I will probably have to hold off a semester and possibly even quit working with them so I can help make some dosh. Plus I was just planning to work only the summer in that lab due to it not helping me much in terms of skills I wanted to learn
>PI flips her shit and gets mad at me and doesn't understand the concept of holding off school for family since shes came from some rich German family
>Tells me to just take a loan out for those semesters
>Literally thinks I'm wasting time holding off my graduation

Seriously they only want whats best for them. Luckily it was only one semester I had to hold off but I ended up in a better lab with a better professor who wasn't some heartless Nazi bitch and actually helped me get some scholarships.

But long story short I wouldn't pressure my kids to go to college or uni because that shit is a debt machine

>>382976374
>make webapps that are useful to people
>get money from them
requires no boss and nothing other than knowledge and free time which you have in spades apparently mr neet

>>382968551

This is not a situation no one from that university would ever be in, because its a joke uni.

>>382975428
>Not doing internships
Kind of hard to get an internship if no one's interested in you.
>Not doing extracurriculars
Well excuse me stupid normie, not all of use are extroverted or were liked by people. In fact everyone in school thought I was legitimately retarded, despite being on the honors program. That last part is mostly why everyone hated me, they thought I didn't deserve it and it should be someone like them not a retard in it.

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>>382968551
>be game designer
>liberal arts degree
>work my way out of mailroom

>fastforward
>have to hire freshmeat. scriptkids for the script god
>AHEM, YES I GRADUATED FROM SCAD
>AHEM, YES I HAVE AN MFA FROM GUILDHALL
>AHEM, YES I HAVE A MFA IN INTERACTIVE MEDIA FROM SCA
>trashbin.jpg

>Full Sail nigger applies
>bretty good portfolio
>interviews like an actual humble human being
>gets job
>solid ass dude
Pretty much every time, so yeah

>>382975581
pfft bathedic faggot.
We had faggots drop out of animation game design and art courses because they tought that all they had to do was draw sonic fanart/talk about video games/draw shit and not accept critisism or work hard
Those faggots all dropped out and are now apprentice electricians or joiners

Those of us who worked our asses off are now working in the industry making AAA games.
And it was a no name small uni.

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>>382976674
>Kind of hard to get an internship if no one's interested in you.
No company out there isn't interested in free work being done. Even if they bring you on to make coffee. You either haven't looked and are just assuming that they don't want you or you're a tremendous shitter and they won't even take you for free.

>>382976775
What games are you making?

>>382976804
Why take a guy with no experience to work for you for free when there will be ones with experience?

That's who you compete with

>>382971168
>Discrete mathematics
>Hard
lmaoing at your life m8
You wouldn't have made it past the upper level CS classes

>>382973210
One of my strengths is that I am a determined worker with an eye for details

One of my weaknesses is that I sometimes won't leave the site until the job I Set out to do that day is complete

>>382975538
>Many colleges do not help with internships
Where? What college doesn't have a career service area?

At the community college I started at you could even be loaned suits for interviews

if i take a dickload of ritalin do you think i could learn c++ or c#? all i know is html and some intermediate css

>>382976984
If you attend a CS program still teaching upper level math as part of the junior/sr level curriculum, you are not enrolled in a CS program. You're enrolled in a Math major with CS extracurriculars, and your transcript/skillset will reflect that when no one in tech OR math hires you.

I have actual skills in video game animation and I'm not a game design "ideas guy", give me a job NOW

>>382977045
American education is a disaster. In my area, the only internships available are for nursing. That's only because the jobs taking them in, spit them back out just as fast.

>>382976906
NDA senpai, its honestly something that isnt important anyway, what matters is pipeline and wether the project is fun.
Like the dumbest game nobody cared about was more fun to work on than replay

>>382968551
oh thank god I realized how awful this place was before I went.
Now I have a degree in Culinary.

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>>382976984
>I can make kernel drivers and program in assembly
>Could never pass top level cs classes
Pick one.

>>382975492
found this oddly motivating

>>382977175
This. Of course the math department tries butting it's head into every degree it can, because no one's taking their courses anymore, other then the mega sperg lords who only speak in calculus level 256.

>>382977175
What is considered upper level in terms of math?

>when you have a meme degree and you know it's a meme degree, but your parents still like to brag about it, and you have to sit there knowing full well that people who know anything about modern university know your degree is a fucking joke

>>382976516
Did go to college, there was no work at the end so I bailed before the debt got bad.

>>382976775
Those sonic fanart dags stuck around and now they're unemployed.

I'm unemployed because I used a ladder on a scissorlift, not because of autism.

>>382975538
Every uni I checked out when I was applying had a career office. I agree that it should be emphasized more, but they're not blameless since they didn't take initiative.

>>382976403
Go to literally any other western country in the world except for maybe Germany and see how it is there.

>>382976674
>Kind of hard to get an internship if no one's interested in you.
see >>382976804
>Well excuse me stupid normie
Unfortunately in the real world you WILL have to collaborate with others or deal with clients.

>>382976958
That's what your career office is for.

>>382976124
Not a burger so I honestly don't know what SATs are despite having hearing the term a lot.
What am I good at? Well I don't fuckin know, I can almost certainly fix any software problem if you give me an internet connection, and if I can't then at least find out why it's not working to begin with.
Apart from that I really have no idea. I've been studying all my life, but I have zero real world experience. All theory but no practice you could say.
Apart from knowing my way with general technology, I don't really know if I have other strengths.

My teachers from proper compsci subjects have been pretty terrible, but the teachers from math courses are usually brough in from the math school, so they are much more competent at actually teaching.
I just so happened to learn I hate programming. It's not like I did terrible in it, I just in all honesty wanted to break my neck when starting a program from zero, making it work, debugging it, etc. I can be very patient and meticulous if I need to, but programming tipped me over. I absolutely hated every second of the time I failed, and the time I passed.

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>want to be a game designer whole life
>become one
>free to play becomes a thing
>all companies want you to make trash
>only nips still care about the craft
i am literally going to quit any day now. fucking born 20 years too late.

>>382975581
>spend entire life not knowing what to do
>finally decide at 20 you're going to be an animator, something people bleed over from ages as young as 13
>decide you're just going to HURR BECOME AN ANIMATOR
>get dropped hard when you realize it isn't making walk cycles in flash all day
>WOAH FUCK THE SYSTEM MAN

you fucked up by spending 1/3 of your life jerking off and playing video games then have the nerve to say the game was rigged from the beginning because you lacked the motivation to place keyframes you fucking loser. The arts are not something you just decide to do at 19, if you didn't spend your early teen years staying up until 5 am drawing, animating, modelling, texturing, writing code, etc, you need to fuck off, go flip burgers, and leave this shit to people who are actually passionate and not make the whole system look bad because you didn't know what you wanted. Yes, many game design/animation branches need reworking, however I'm tired of faggots like you making this entire career look bad because you couldnt be bothered to learn what the fuck easing was.

>>382970618
Currently doing a Bachelors in English. Hope this is true.

>>382976642
Educate your kids on how to use tools, man

>>382977615
video games in America are still a hugely profitable industry ya dummy.

>>382977492
>That's what your career office is for.

Yes, then they hook you up with interviews with clients only to find out 20 other people have turned up to the same thing and written off at the end of the day

>>382976771
Seriously this its amazing that some people think their education is all they need.

>Was able to work with about 3-4 different teachers at a community college to learn more about microbiology
>ended up managing their mushroom program so pretty much got some great early lab experience
>Fast-forward to university where I get my first job at one of their labs
>All my coulleges have almost no exprience with lab work past their classes
>Literally have shit work ethic since mommy and daddy probably keeps them afloat
>graduate student I worked with didn't even know how to streak plates somehow and was pretty much killing her cultures because she had no idea what the fuck she was doing

And thats when I realized truly how retarded and incompetent university people can be.

>>382977702
Because they all adopted f2p and DLC models. All the west makes is cancer clones now.

>>382977626
You sound like a bitter projecting autist, friend
Did I say something to aggravate you?

>>382977615
What the fuck did you think? You we're going to make the next big game?

If that is all you care about, then you deserve what you got. You should be happy with your career choice and enjoy it. Find pleasure in doing a good job. Who the fuck cares what you are working on.

>>382977684
Exactly, pretty much over the last year I have been teaching myself woodworking and goddamn would I be lying if I didn't say it was a billion times more satisfying then working with those chucklefucks in academia. I'm hopping to get good enough to where I could maybe support myself while getting better at that. I kinda regret not taking it up earlier.

>>382977747
>not getting in good with your professors for the top picks

>>382977919
>Who the fuck cares what you are working on.
The person working on it, dipshit.

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>tfw landlord making 50k a year with a net worth of 1.4 million.
>tfw didn't have to waste 4 years and thousands for a degree.
>tfw barely have to work at all.
>tfw the average wagie works 50 hours a week and still gets plaid less than me

Feels good being a rich landlord NEET. I have all the time in the world for vidya.

>>382976804
Unpaid internships don't actually exist. An unpaid "internship" is just job shadowing.

>>382977592
>Not a burger so I honestly don't know what SATs are despite having hearing the term a lot.
It's the burger version of an entrance exam, I guess. You have to get a certain score total to get in, and a certain score on math for a math degree

All that shit you said about yourself qualifies you for one of the low level IT jobs like help desk, maybe sysadmin if you got other certificates (like A+ or whatever the shit is nowadays).

You're not liking programming because you're being tasked to create boring dumb programs that are shit. Nobody likes making their own calculator, or a calendar, or test weighting program, or whatever other boring crap they invariably come up with.

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>>382978104
>50k/yr
>rich

>>382978104
How the fuck do you even become a land lord.

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>>382977826
Similarly:
>Work in Tech
One co-worker has a bachelors and the other a masters.

Bachelors is on my level and we can discuss complex problems.

Masters is completely fucking retarded to the point where she is relegated to the tier 1 phone queue for unlocking people. Whenever she is given anything more complex than this, she fucks up massively and its up to me and the bachelor guy to fix her issue.

This has been happening for about 4 years now. Its always the same issues and we always explain to her what she did wrong but she never learns.

College doesn't mean shit. In fact, I almost always assume the worst when someone tells me they went to college and are in the IT field. It means you got in by the grace of spending money.

>>382978235
Own property
Rent it out

>>382978175
He didn't say what country he lives in, and anyone that isn't a billionaire or trillionaire (bill gates or jeff besos) isn't rich.

>>382978175
>millionaire at 26.
>not rich.

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>>382977141
>html and CSS
>even comparable to programming

>>382978104

I believe you :)

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>Sorry we don't hire anybody with more then a 3 month gap in their employment history

>>382977974
Exactly that
I wished I took up electrical work and the Manual laboring work when I was 16, I'd have more options and opportunities than I have now about to go on 20.
If I don't find another job to get me through my apprenticeship before I'm 20, I'm fucked because here I'm roo land you get paid by age brackets when you're under 21, and 21 years old is = to 3rd year apprentice wages, and I'm still a stupid dumb 2nd year apprentice

>>382978445
Well...
Why do you have a three month gap?

>>382978445
Don't get fired or quit before you have something lined up.

Its not hard.

>>382978325
>net ((((worth))))
>liquid income
Not how it works. You'll learn that when you're 18.

>>382978325
Most of that net worth is probably just in property he owns, not in cash
More than likely he received that property from actual rich family members who passed away or were feeling generous

>>382978286
Okay there's the thing, you need to buy property in the first place. And I imagine the estate tax is through the roof.

>>382975428
Don't fucking lie. You have your job because you know someone at the company (or someone that knows someone).

>>382977848
You sure you don't mean the East you shitter? Have you checked the list of video games from China and Korea?

>>382978445
>not making up employment and using relatives as references

>>382978445
Is that why literally no one ever wants to hire me, even if they've been looking to hire someone for the past year but literally can't find someone else?

>>382978623
when will the "you have to be friends with people to get a job" meme die

that's what unemployable people tell themselves to make themselves feel better

>>382978445
took 6 months off between jobs and labeled the gap as "freelance"

what retarded industry doesn't take that as an excuse?

>>382978697
Post your resume.

>>382978279
It's just crazy how much it doesn't mean jack shit. I mean sure there are positions and jobs where you need a degree but it baffles me how incompetent some of these people which such "prestigious" degrees are. I remeber back when I was woorking in that shitty lab the professor chewed me out for about 10 minutes on a type of method I was using because she had absolutely no idea how to work with these cultures. Later the graduate student told her I was right but she never apologized since I guess it was beneath her to say she was wrong to an undergraduate.

Do you need a degree for what you do or would you be able to get in with good experience?

>>382978583
Honestly, unless you received property from family, it's not really worth it.

>>382970618
Only if you're applying for shit jobs lol. I wouldn't be in forensics without a degree.

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>got a blue collar job working in manufacturing with a respectable company
>lots of room for advancement even though I had no schooling
>but the isolation from interacting with no people even right next to me
>couldn't Relate to any of my co-workers
>couldn't handle the work itself
>quit after a few weeks
>get shit on by all my family and friends

I have never wanted to kill myself more than working there. I couldn't turn that into a career. Did make the right choice?

>>382978149
That's what an internship is.

>>382978724
It's literally true for entry level workers with no prior experience.

>>382970618
Tech will literally shred your shit without a CS degree. Even help desk IT.

>>382978424
>define thing over here
>call upon it over there
i don't see the difference

>>382978847
Not in America.

>>382978445
>Not having jobs lined up before you quit
>Not just fudging your resume

Its not hard to make a good resume. You could always put something like freelance or that you went somewhere to learn something. Or just make you quit date on your other job later.

>>382978828
I'd shit on you if you didn't have something else lined up.

>>382978847
right, no experience and no skills means unemployable

you need at least one of the two

>>382978750
I don't apply to places that require a resume.

>neets always say degrees dont get jobs
>believed them for a time
>now I get job offers from companies I never applied to because they saw my degree


Life is sweet

>>382978762
They're not used to an actual work environment.
They're too used to education, where it's softer and simpler to navigate.

>>382978828
Yes.

>>382978907
This. I'm fucking baffled at how many people bitch about it. I'm a designer and I've never worked at a place for longer than a year. I'll usually work for a year, save up, quit, and find a new job after taking a year off. I just fill the gaps with "freelance" on my resume. You guys are dummies if you find work experience to be a problem.

>>382978835
Not in America. If you do ANY productive work your internship must be paid. Around here Engineering internships pay about 14-15 an hour, which isn't great but its sure as shit better than working fast food to support yourself

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Who else here is a rich NEET?

>tfw never had to slave away at a uni for some meme degree just to go into debt.
>tfw never had to slave away at a job and loose my time and freedom.
>tfw never had to take out any loans.

Pic related is my bank account. I also have 350k invested in stocks and crypto. I have zero expenses and live in a 3,500 square foot luxury home in a gated neighborhood for completely free. I have unlimited free time for vidya, working out, reading. I will never have a need for a job. It baffles me that people willingly become slaves. I'll be enjoying my life of luxury and freedom as you slave your life away for the next 50 years just for a small taste at neetdom when you're old.

>>382978952
Here's a thought, maybe you're a normie not a neet.

>>382978762
Experience would work, if you interview well. The job says Bachelors required but I didn't give a fuck and applied anyway since I had been in IT for 5 years at that point. It was geek squad retail work, but I knew what I was talking about in the interview.

Fast forward 4 years in that job and I just got promoted and making 50k a year now. I'm the most experienced on the team and the go-to person for complex issues or new technologies that need to be understood and create guides for the potatoes that cannot figure things out.

>>382978952
Right? The "education is a meme" crowd needs to learn the difference between a real education and a business degree at a community college.

>>382978934
How do they acquire the skills and experience then?

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>>382979032
>he lives in clapistan

>>382979071
most people go to college, get internships, do side projects, and join clubs to get skills, which gets them an entry level job for experience

>>382978887
Not true.

Source: Me - Applied for Help Desk position with a GED. Got it, and was just promoted to Tier 2 position because I'm not retarded and know how software works.

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>tfw I interview so poorly that nothing else matters

>>382978828
Unless your are absolutely strapped for cash you should never work somewhere you hate. Fuck you family and friends if they can't understand that. You are literally wasting time and health under those conditions and there will always be a way to make money.

You did the right thing.

>>382979034
how exactly did you come into such a fortune?

Inb4- I inherited it or mommy and daddy gave it to me.

>>382979032
That's not true. I don't know why you're sticking to this "internship must be paid" narrative.

>>382979034
Tell me about your stocks.

I'm in my third year for my Bachelor's in Computer game design and development. I don't really know what to do at this point. I feel like I am wasting my time and everyone on /v/ makes fun of my degree. Changing majors will suck up even more years of my life and put me in debt even further. I feel like I will never get a good job because my degree is shit, but it's really the only thing that interested me and I'm too stupid for CS. I don't want to disappoint my parents and drop out either. What should I do, /v/? Is suicide an option?

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There's this one guy at college i don't really like but he sees me as a close friend and the only reason i haven't cut him off and told him to piss off because he comes from a rich chink family and is probably gonna make it big after Uni so i wanna keep tabs on him.

Am i cunt for this?

>>382979139
That's not how it works in Australia.
Here, that's not "practical experience"

>>382970740
You go to an Ivy league school to make connections with other rich people, not for your education. If you aren't going to bother networking, don't spend the money.

>>382979352
That's just skilled networking, anon

I work as an artist but the pay is pretty shit.
I just wish I could make a living drawing porn, but I couldn't live with the shame I feel about it.
I couldn't look at my friends in the face, much less my family. And after you have porn under you that's a dead end for your career (if you're male), you're done.
At least I will never be homeless since the option of whoring myself out will always be there.

>>382979034
I am kind of in the same boat as you, I have a house paid off, and have ~400k in crypo, if it wasnt for this I probably would have killed myself desu.

>>382978892
You're definitely clueless anon
Comparing HTML to coding languages will get you laughed at

>>382979236
Learn how to fake it. Practice interviewing over and over and make yourself appear like a normie. Or close to it.

When they hire you and realize you aren't one of them, they are stuck with you.

>>382978164
Oh the entrance exam, right.
I did alright on it I think, CS is high-ish when it comes to score needed to enter, just below things like medicine.
Funny enough, we did have a math evaluation exam too, which I failed horribly. When such a thing happens, the recommendation is to take precalc first, but I remember the lady that gave me my result telling me to double think that because the math in precalc is very different from the math taken in CS.
The first time I took prog I failed because of some shit that happened in the second test. I did so bad that I skipped the final test. I was doing alright up to when that happened, but I really didn't like it.
I feel like the making of those stupid little programs are part of the learning process so I can't entirely blame them for it, but it was painfully boring and frustrating what with the assignments I had to make on my own with my own wits and internet on my house.
My second prog teacher also gave assbackwards instructions for them, often contradicting themselves and just being overall a confusing ambiguous mess. Only reason I passed that was some emo dude that was actually really competent befriended me for some reason and helped me with the big assignments.

I once interviewed candidates for my old company and literally took that same pose and asked "It says here you enjoy Japanese literature, care to elaborate?"

she was pretty embarassed trying to dance around the fact that she clearly was a fanfic writter and had weeb pasted all over her face. I wonder if she ever caught on I was making her squirm for shits n giggles.

In the end I recommend her and she turned out great, so I dont feel guilty about it.

>>382979034
How does you do it anon also why didn't your just screencap you pleb.

>>382979343
Pick a decent minor.

>>382979352
No. I made close ties to many Chinese international students because they're filthy rich. Do I enjoy talking with them? Not really.

>>382979226
Where? Rural Arkansas?
Midwest demands it, and if it doesn't wants A+. They also won't trust the cert if you don't have experience to back it.

>>382979054
Seriously man good for you. Thats awesome.

>>382979297
http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/employment-law-and-human-resources/unpaid-internship-rules.html

>The employer providing the training derives no immediate advantage from the activities of the intern and on occasion its operations may actually be impeded.

If your work is productive, you MUST be paid

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>just finished first year in MFA Screenwriting program
>there's a legitimate chance I could end up writing vidya

>>382979515
i didn't compare it to coding languages i just said that it's all i know right now and asked if i did a dickload of ritalin if i could learn c#

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>>382972894
>don't want to live in the city
Why? That's the dream anon. I own a house in suburbia but the misery isn't worth it. I would move to the city but some part of me is stopping me from selling the house and buying an apartment out in LA.

>>382979537
I once asked someone what they thought of Metal Gear Solid V and they said it was the best MG game ever. I didn't have any technical reason to block their application at the time so I abstained because it didn't seem fair to reject someone for personal reasons.

They're by far the worst person we've ever had on the team and probably the entire company.

>>382979625
Doesn't apply to NPOs

>>382972761
please teach me how

>>382979616
Upstate NY.

>>382970724
>Not going to med school or getting a masters

>>382979518
Thats pretty much where I am at, practice makes perfect I suppose.

>>382979728
>buying an apartment out in LA.
lmao

>>382979343
>good at game design
>bad at programming
I really hate Unity and Unreal for allowing idiots to just copy paste shit to make their games.

>>382976258
But understanding that it is a horrifically, terribly designed clusterfuck of a language. This is important, not because this should intimidate you, but because understanding that it is flawed will give you a leg up over everyone who goes into the language with the idea that it's the super 1337 hax0r language that all the most advanced software is written in and because of this, there must be well thought out reasons why all the bullshit in it is the way it is.

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>want to be a vidya game artist
>have connections and everything.
>But am only decent to good.

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>>382973210
I have killed many who have challenged me in duels, yet my one weakness would be seafood

>>382980084
Skill doesn't matter, only connections do.

>>382979979
That's literally why game engines like Unity exist. The talent to program and the talent to design are rarely found in one guy

>>382979343
Finish it out and get your entry level job in QA with the rest of your dumb decisionmaking kin.
In 10 years you might get a jr level design role if you learn how to script.

>>382980084
practice every day or plan projects from yourself.

Seriously the only way to get good at anything in life is doing it and doing it alot.

>>382980084
artstation?

>>382979979
>good at programming
>bad at game design
And thus modern AAA was born

>>382978104
>dad is landlord
>a couple of fat bitches live in one of his aparments and they don't even pay the rent
>dad caters to their every whim because they're his cousing or something
>dad is going to lose his job
>going to have to live out of the rent for some time
> the daughter of one of them, along with her bastard child move in and wants another apartment to which they won't pay either

Having a dad that is a pussy is worst than not having a dad, now I have to get a second job.

>>382980203
I do. I just need to draw more life study pieces and not furry porn.

>>382980084
So what?
Become an industry hack.

>>382980270
Talk to your dad and put him in line. Seriously hes your father and you are both men. Tell him how stupid it is and that his life is becoming worse because he wont lay down the law. Hell even help him out.

>>382980324
You have the connections so you don't really need anything else. 95% of the industry artists are shit.

>>382979963
West LA is pretty much paradise if you don't mind traffic and homeless people fucking everywhere.

>>382980330
Personally I could give less of a fuck for working on games or movies, I just love drawing and I want to be able to continue to do it as much as I want while not having to support my hobby with a shitty job. I want to be really good at art for my own sake.

>>382980324
Like I said just make a project that focuses on that and work maybe hour on it a day. You get really good really fast.

>>382974105
tell us stories

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>>382980269
>implying all the shit unoptimized games is "good" programming

>>382980496
Will do, I do want more feedback though. Most advice I get helps out a lot.

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>20 years old
>dropped out of High School
>still working as a peasant bagger but I could switch to a different department anytime, but I'm too lazy to ask.
Is there any hope for me? The only thing I'm decent at is physical labor and playing music but not reading it.

>>382973727
Jojoposter? Hired.

>>382979034
Fuck off Shkreli.

>>382980270
Help him man up somehow anon. He's your fuckin dad, sometimes even parents make stupid decisions and it's your job to look out for them, even when you don't want to.

>>382968551

That's not my resume, sir.

I have a Bachelors in Accountancy.

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Start your own business TODAY and be your own boss!

Just pitch us your Idea and we'll help you get started!

>>382977626
Get that thumb out of your ass, anon.

>>382971004
What if I'm getting to go to college for free?

>>382980753
I really want to learn how to make pottery and do woodworking. I also want to I buy some land in bumbfuck nowhere where for cheap and build a small but cozy workshop where I can be a hermit on weekends while I just craft a bunch of shit and so when I come back to my apartment near actual people I can just sell off whatever I made.

>>382980971
But you aren't. Bernie didn't win.

>>382981082
I promise anon. I'm getting a Chemistry degree with focus in Materials Science for free.

>>382981082
if he's in the military he probably is though

So this is basically what Full Sail is, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQLdhVpLBVE

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>>382979058
This, anyone who looks half way and has some decent social and interview skills can get a job if they have a degree. I mean if anyone looks at Statistics, College grads have something like a 3% unemployment rate. You need to learn how to sell yourself.

And even social skills can be worked on. I joined Model UN to practice speaking and it really helped. No one believes I used to stutter alot only a few years ago.

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>>382980642
>>382980409
He's such a fucking stubborn faggot. God help me, I've tried all my life to not be like him.
I'll get a second job, kick them out somehow and live there if I have to.
Fuck you, dad.

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FYI kids from an actual game designer:
Pick a modern game designer. Not one who's also an EP.
Got that person in your mind?
Now find out if they're married.
Go ahead.
Oh, what's that?
They're not?
Yup.

Game Design is the ultimate pussy repellent for a few reasons:
>Almost no decent women are hired in vidya
>The ones that are have a 90001:1 girl:guy ratio, and will usually be in a tech city where they can get a CEO or brogrammer
>telling any decent girl you "work on video games" is heard as "i play with toys. that's my job"
>the smart ones know your work is unstable and usually by-the-project, unlike brogrammer two clicks down the Match.com list
>you will work long crunch hours and never have time to even go out to have a chance with said women
>your qt 3.14 shy but 9/10 nerdy gf is either not real, or was taken 10 years before you met her
>By the time you reach CliffyB/Romero status at a major company, you are 40, and probably en EP. Your chances of being famous enough for women to care about you are roughly 1-3%, even then
>You will never be the West's Miyamoto regardless

Still wanna be a game designer, faggot? I'm a 33 year old game director and had 3 girlfriends. All were some shade of bi-polar.
I would give it all back if I could. In a heartbeat.

>>382978847
I got my first job because a close friend worked at the place.

>>382981268
>>382979058
Okay be honest though, are you even fucked if you go to community college or is that purely if you going for some high end career? I'm still really new to traversing how college works but I can't tell who is being facticious and who isn't. I hear people say there's no difference between a uni and a CC and others say youre doomed if you arent in a uni

>>382980753

75% of all small businesses fold within the first five years.

I work for a small consulting firm and these sad fucks just don't realize they got in over their head and their businesses need to be taken behind the barn and shot.

It would save them a lot of time, money and effort but if they did that then they wouldn't need me to try and save their sinking ships.

>>382981390
Don't worry anon I feel the same way about my dad. Hes such a stubborn faggot but so am I so we butt heads.But seriously your dad loves you and hes not always going to be around. So just be nice to him and look out for him while you can.

>>382981194
You sound like my pchem lab partner lol. He was hyper smart " I only studied 45 mins for an A" while I was "I studied an hour and a half a day for two weeks and got a C"

>>382981504
Scale is a hard thing for small business to do, even with a sound concept.
If they just planned for it, they'd be fine, but oh well. More consultingbux for me.

>>382981484
It literally doesn't matter because you'll still go to a university once you're done with community college.

CC is literally cheap first two years, and the first two years are mostly generic education anyway. If you honestly feel like your Calc 1 and Intro to World Philosophy is going to be better taught at a uni over a CC than most likely employs "real" university professors part time anyway, you're crazy.

>>382981504
isn't running a business a mixture of luck, having extra money already prior to the business, and obviously some business smarts? How do you even avoid that pitfall outside of having a huge net of extra money behind you?

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The house parties and sluts made college worth it.

The debts and waiting 4 years after graduation to get a job were a small price to pay. I miss college life, cyber security field is much more boring than i expected

>>382981616
Gotcha, that's what I was assuming. Thanks anon.

>>382981484
Having a name attached to your degree is where a Uni is better. It does give kinda a edge. But what matters is the fact that you have a degree and you don't seem like a huge autist.

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>>382970881
I went to Evergreen and I'm insulted but you are correct.

>>382981484

Depends on the CC.

Mine had a transfer program with my states thee major universities. All 60 credits of my Associates in Business went towards my Bachelors in Accounting.

Those 60 credit hours at the CC only cost 1/3 of what a uni would have charged so I saved a ton of money.

It's the CC lifers you need to look out for; the people who switched majors 3 times and love taking every 101 class offered.

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>>382980612
>Hired
I was actually quoting Big Smoke from GTA:SA.

>>382981545
Nah man, I'm more like you than you think. I put in 12 hours a day during classes and get low Bs/high Cs. Those straight A kids do exist though and I really envy them. It just kinda clicks for them and they're often pre-med students. The nice thing about Chem degrees is that even if you graduate with a 2.5 you're guaranteed a real job upon graduation or there are some Master's programs that will accept you. Low grades are a speed bump to success compared to other majors where low grades are a brick wall. As long as you continue to work hard it will eventually pay off one way or another.

>>382977175
Discrete math is definitely not upper level math. I took it as part of my lower division requirements for my CS degree at uc davis.
I took upper division math classes as electives because they were easier than most of the upper division CS classes (abstract math, number theory, combinatorics, euclidean geometry).
Besides, CS != programming. CS is math and theory heavy.

>>382981393
Sounds to me like you care more about getting laid than actually enjoying your job.

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>there are people who graduated as a virgin

What's your excuse?

>>382972812
You may hate this idea, but with your background: sanitation tech at a school.

You'll get paid more than teachers and can fuck about until a kid pukes or shots themself.

>>382974872
Those glasses don't go with that suit.

>>382981917
only a hkv would read that and see it as above par for the course.

>>382981941
Shits themselves. My bad, but if American, still applies.

>>382981393
What games have you worked on?

>>382981997
The fuck is an hkv?

>>382981621

You answered your own question, twice I think.

Starting out, unless you're done your homework and have experience, people are going to fuck up until they find their niche and streamline their operations so unless they have a decent amount of start-up capital to fall back on then their entire ship tanks at the first decent sized fuck up.

You need to have a rock solid business plan, proof of concept, financial backers and someone who knows how to execute said plan to make it work the first time.

Or you get lucky and a bigger company buys you out within your first year. That's honesty the best way to go for 80% of independent business owners.

What's a decent job that's isolated from other people?

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>>382982107
Janitor

>>382981393
I really, really hope you're the No Man's Sky guy.

>>382981196
It's not "free" if someone else is paying for it.

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>>382981805
>I went to Evergreen
You been following the recent shit?

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>getting a degree at an actual recognized institution
>profs throw opportunities to volunteer in labs around like candy, practically have to force students to take them
>not many students so little competition in classes or for scholarships or internships, also builds sense of comradery
>honours program has a compulsory thesis so more lab experience and connections
>plenty of paid internships to make cash and get yet more experience and connections
>actual practical applications and skills as well as theory
>grad school is basically paid for entirely by stipends and grants
>parents are proud of you
>plebs think youre smart or some shit
>student association pays for all the parties and alcohol with university grant money

guess my major /v/
if you can get it I'll tell you the downsides

>>382981917
>dying alone just to say you made Generic Shutan 13
Sounds to me like you're underage with a myopic perspective on how the world works.

Oh that's a mistake. I dropped out before I could get my game design degree.

>comp sci
>programming

Please, 90% of comp sci grads write spaghetti code, just because you can do calculus doesn't mean you can code, do software engineering tards

>>382981859
> The nice thing about Chem degrees is that even if you graduate with a 2.5 you're guaranteed a real job upon graduation

That's what I am hoping for. My grades are shit because I'm not the smartest. Hopefully my research and being an officer in a club will help. Especially if I actually publish before I graduate.

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>>382979352
No, you're being pragmatic.

>>382982338
Chemistry or Biology

>>382982338
Sounds like Biology or Chemistry. If not some sub-study of the 2.

>>382982338
Mathematics easy

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>>382982338
chemistry aka how to press butoons on machines

>>382982338
The downside is nobody actually needs another bumfuck working a gas spectrometer and you'll be right back in grad school hoping to break into forensics before student debt eats you alive; those undergrad parties a then-long-ago distant memory.